[00:56] is anyone able to reproduce bug #648238 regarding the volume indicator? [00:56] Launchpad bug 648238 in The Sound Menu "always show unmuted at startup (affected: 5, heat: 26)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/648238 [03:54] hello everyone. I'm on the cardapio menu team and I'm trying to work on a bug posted here https://bugs.launchpad.net/cardapio/+bug/651803. When the cardapio menu is activated, the indicator-appmenu sees it as an application and tries to display a menu, showing only File. Is there a way to make the appmenu completely ignore cardapio? [03:54] Launchpad bug 651803 in Cardapio "Cardapio conflicts with indicator-applet-appmenu (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Low,Triaged] [08:00] bratsche, we got another problem with appmenu: When the cardapio menu is activated, the indicator-appmenu sees it as an application and tries to display a menu, showing only File. Is there a way to make the appmenu completely ignore cardapio? [08:01] see https://bugs.launchpad.net/cardapio/+bug/651803 [08:01] Launchpad bug 651803 in Cardapio "Cardapio conflicts with indicator-applet-appmenu (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Low,Triaged] === didrocks1 is now known as didrocks === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === didrocks1 is now known as didrocks === chrisccoulson is now known as nosluoccsirhc === Cimi is now known as imiC === imiC is now known as Cimi === nosluoccsirhc is now known as chrisccoulson [18:13] tedg, ping [18:14] kenvandine, Howdy [18:14] hey, i have a dbus service question [18:14] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/IntroductionToDBus [18:14] says you can list multiple names for a service [18:14] with a Names=something;somethingelse [18:15] but doesn't seem to work... just bad docs? [18:15] kenvandine, Hmm, I've never done that.... [18:15] kenvandine, I wouldn't see any reason it wouldn't work though. [18:15] kenvandine, Unless it just wasn't read as a list. [18:15] it doesn't :) [18:15] kenvandine, But, why not just make multiple service files? [18:16] kenvandine, Seems like it'd be the same effect. [18:16] that works [18:16] however... it actually caused a problem in karmic, but seems fine now [18:16] but ideally i would want gwibber.service, which listed all the interface that service answers too [18:17] however, i wonder if it is a good idea to split those processes, one per interface name... [18:17] not sure if there is a good reason to do that or now :) [18:17] s/now/not [18:18] i think the current rationale is com.Gwibber.Service really needs all the other interfaces to be running in order to function, so just creating them all in the dispatcher was easy [18:22] tedg, by looking at the indicator services, i assume your in favor of that model of a bunch of independent services ? got opinions on gwibber splitting out more like indicator-* and telepathy? [18:22] like facebook spawns a process, twitter, etc? [18:22] kenvandine, The nice part about how telepathy does that it is that they're easy to upgrade. [18:23] kenvandine, And the interfaces are quite clear. [18:23] kenvandine, So, as you have it, you need to basically ahve all the providers in your tree. But, that way people can build their own more easily. [18:23] kenvandine, And, for instance, if they wanted to fork the identi.ca one for their own private server that was preconfigured, they could do that easily in a package. [18:23] yeah, i think ryan was pretty opposed to splitting them out last time i mentioned it [18:24] The other problem you have is that with Python, individual processes are pretty expensive. [18:24] the tough part is versioning the api [18:24] yeah [18:24] unless we wrapped them in libgwibber :) [18:24] Yes, you should avoid versioning the API :) [18:25] Honestly, you should talk with the Collabra guys some, they probably have some good advice. [18:26] yeah [18:26] i'll do that at uds, hope they are coming [18:26] jcastro_, do you know if they are coming? [18:27] tedg, also it would open it up so they could be written in other languages [18:27] anyway... thx [18:44] kenvandine: I've not heard back from them [18:44] kenvandine: nor the yorba guys either [18:46] jcastro: bummer [18:46] hope they make it