[00:56] <NateW> is anyone able to reproduce bug #648238 regarding the volume indicator?
[03:54] <cmulk> hello everyone. I'm on the cardapio menu team and I'm trying to work on a bug posted here https://bugs.launchpad.net/cardapio/+bug/651803. When the cardapio menu is activated, the indicator-appmenu sees it as an application and tries to display a menu, showing only File. Is there a way to make the appmenu completely ignore cardapio?
[08:00] <JanCBorchardt_> bratsche, we got another problem with appmenu: When the cardapio menu is activated, the indicator-appmenu sees it as an application and tries to display a menu, showing only File. Is there a way to make the appmenu completely ignore cardapio?
[08:01] <JanCBorchardt_> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/cardapio/+bug/651803
[18:13] <kenvandine> tedg, ping
[18:14] <tedg> kenvandine, Howdy
[18:14] <kenvandine> hey, i have a dbus service question
[18:14] <kenvandine> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/IntroductionToDBus
[18:14] <kenvandine> says you can list multiple names for a service
[18:14] <kenvandine> with a Names=something;somethingelse
[18:15] <kenvandine> but doesn't seem to work... just bad docs?
[18:15] <tedg> kenvandine, Hmm, I've never done that....
[18:15] <tedg> kenvandine, I wouldn't see any reason it wouldn't work though.
[18:15] <tedg> kenvandine, Unless it just wasn't read as a list.
[18:15] <kenvandine> it doesn't :)
[18:15] <tedg> kenvandine, But, why not just make multiple service files?
[18:16] <tedg> kenvandine, Seems like it'd be the same effect.
[18:16] <kenvandine> that works
[18:16] <kenvandine> however... it actually caused a problem in karmic, but seems fine now
[18:16] <kenvandine> but ideally i would want gwibber.service, which listed all the interface that service answers too
[18:17] <kenvandine> however, i wonder if it is a good idea to split those processes, one per interface name...
[18:17] <kenvandine> not sure if there is a good reason to do that or now :)
[18:17] <kenvandine> s/now/not
[18:18] <kenvandine> i think the current rationale is com.Gwibber.Service really needs all the other interfaces to be running in order to function, so just creating them all in the dispatcher was easy
[18:22] <kenvandine> tedg, by looking at the indicator services, i assume your in favor of that model of a bunch of independent services ?  got opinions on gwibber splitting out more like indicator-* and telepathy?
[18:22] <kenvandine> like facebook spawns a process, twitter, etc?
[18:22] <tedg> kenvandine, The nice part about how telepathy does that it is that they're easy to upgrade.
[18:23] <tedg> kenvandine, And the interfaces are quite clear.
[18:23] <tedg> kenvandine, So, as you have it, you need to basically ahve all the providers in your tree.  But, that way people can build their own more easily.
[18:23] <tedg> kenvandine, And, for instance, if they wanted to fork the identi.ca one for their own private server that was preconfigured, they could do that easily in a package.
[18:23] <kenvandine> yeah, i think ryan was pretty opposed to splitting them out last time i mentioned it
[18:24] <tedg> The other problem you have is that with Python, individual processes are pretty expensive.
[18:24] <kenvandine> the tough part is versioning the api
[18:24] <kenvandine> yeah
[18:24] <kenvandine> unless we wrapped them in libgwibber :)
[18:24] <tedg> Yes, you should avoid versioning the API :)
[18:25] <tedg> Honestly, you should talk with the Collabra guys some, they probably have some good advice.
[18:26] <kenvandine> yeah
[18:26] <kenvandine> i'll do that at uds, hope they are coming
[18:26] <kenvandine> jcastro_, do you know if they are coming?
[18:27] <kenvandine> tedg, also it would open it up so they could be written in other languages
[18:27] <kenvandine> anyway... thx
[18:44] <jcastro> kenvandine: I've not heard back from them
[18:44] <jcastro> kenvandine: nor the yorba guys either
[18:46] <kenvandine> jcastro: bummer
[18:46] <kenvandine> hope they  make it