[08:06] <alkisg> Good morning
[09:24] <rob____> anyone on that can provide a bit of help?
[09:26] <rob____> I have the following situation: Trying to install edubuntu 10.04 to a HP DL360 G3 (cd rom only.. :( )
[09:26] <rob____> so I can't directly use the edubuntu DVD
[09:26] <alkisg> Use a usb stick instead?
[09:27] <rob____> I have a 4GB pendrive and used the "make usbdirve" option under W7
[09:27] <rob____> booting from USB end up in a kernel panic
[09:28] <rob____> are tehre alternatives in making the USB bootable?
[09:28] <rob____> I even could use booting from 3,5"flop since the server has a floppydrive....
[09:29] <alkisg> rob____: read the logs here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/09/15/%23edubuntu.txt
[09:30] <alkisg> shazzr also had the same problem as you and booted from a live cd in order to create the edubuntu stick
[09:30] <alkisg> You can also share the edubuntu dvd via network, or even install the plain ubuntu version and add edubuntu-desktop afterwards
[09:31] <rob____> What I want is have the server as a LTSP server... and I understood edubuntu has LTSP packages included....
[09:32] <alkisg> Heh, that's the second ltsp server I see without a dvd drive :) More common than I thought!
[09:33] <rob____> old hardware.... but powerfull enough for the purpose: dual xeon 3.06 GhZ... ^^
[09:34] <alkisg> Nice. OK, either create a usb stick, or install via the network, or use the alternate cd installer and add edubuntu-desktop afterwards
[09:34] <alkisg> Any of those methods will do fine..
[09:34] <rob____> I'll try making the usb stick from within the edubuntu live environment....
[09:35] <rob____> thnx for the help and I go through the log you pointed to
[10:08] <rob____> hi there again....
[10:09] <rob____> Just want to inform that creating the USB install drive under ubuntu live cd works like a charm.... how come the usb creation utility under W7 dowsn't work?
[10:10] <rob____> mayby some dev can look into it, cos it will turn people off from using (ed)ubuntu when creating an install utility fails
[10:12] <rob____> anyway, i'm off building a server... ^^
[13:55] <wolfravenous> rob__: you could always switch your cd drive out for a cheap DVD drive, I can buy them around here for 15 US dollars or even if you don't want to switch out the cd because it is SCSI and the cheap DVD drives are IDE you could do the crazy thing I did.
[13:56] <wolfravenous>   I had a spare PCI slot that I put an IDE expansion card in and then took the used internal DVD laid it on top of the blade server but since server was SCSI I had to plug in an old tower PC right beside it and used power from it.
[13:57] <wolfravenous> So I had the IDE cable running from the Internal used DVD (sitting out side the server) to the PCI expansion card in the server and the power was being supplied by the old tower PC running right beside the two.  Crazy I know but it worked!!!
[14:08] <wolfravenous> if you want to see a picture of this crazy setup when I had to do it:  http://twitpic.com/2uv6dy
[14:10] <wolfravenous> I just left the DVD drive in the tower and ran the IDE cable to the IDE expansion card that was installed in the PCI slot of the SCSI server :)  hope this helps someone!!!
[14:13] <wolfravenous> I have used this trick many times to do DVD installs in systems that only have CD drives or NO optical drives at all... Just requires the PCI to IDE card and a PCI slot.... You can even pull out a network card from the PCI slot if you need to do the install then later reinstall the Net Card and set it up...
[19:09] <shazzr> Has anyone tried out Edubuntu with a SmartBoard?
[19:14] <HedgeMage> shazzr: I haven't, sorry.
[19:15] <HedgeMage> shazzr: What do you know about the interface?  With enough info, I could probably suggest a plan of attack, or at least how likely it is to work.
[19:23] <shazzr> It does work. At least on 10.04. Itching go get to sunday. :) Only bummer is that I seem to only be able to download a DVD which in turn seemes to want to fetch stuff from the internet. But there are some restrictions to what resources (websites) I can access from the computer with the smartboard, so I would really like to know if I can install 10.10 100% from a USB stick/DVD/CD?
[19:36] <HedgeMage> shazzr: You can.  You just need to copy the packages you want to the removable media.
[19:44] <shazzr> HedgeMage: So if I download the ISO on monday, and burn it on a DVD, I should be fine?
[19:45] <HedgeMage> shazzr: Well, if you want packages that aren't on the ISO you need to grab them separately and stick them on a disc or USB stick.
[19:45] <HedgeMage> shazzr: so figure out what you'll be installing ahead of time if possible :)
[19:48] <shazzr> HedgeMage: I don't need any other packages...but it is during the installtion that it sort of "hangs", and I suspect that it is because it's looking for something on the net that it can't reach.
[19:52] <HedgeMage> shazzr: You can check the install CD's boot options to see if there is a no network one (to avoid it trying to find the 'net). if not, you can just wait out the search -- eventually it should error and move on.
[20:13] <shazzr> HedgeMage: Ok. Thanks. Will try. :)