[00:10] <maxb> Hrm... my dput is hanging after uploading packages (over sftp)
[00:41] <chx> hi. would it be possible to bzr upgrade lp;drupal to some more modern repository format...? (I know I asked before, maybe there are more people here now)
[00:44] <spiv> chx: IIRC filing a question at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code is the way to do that (seeing as it's an import branch)
[03:09] <compholio> i think my PPA might be broken, is there someone on who can help me out?
[03:11] <mwhudson> compholio: maybe, what's the problem?
[03:12] <compholio> this weekend i uploaded a package ending in ~karmic0 when i already had a package ending in ~karmic, launchpad accepted this but then failed later.  i talked with wgrant earlier and he said that this was a problem and that i should re-upload with ~karmic1, i did so but now it's not publishing that package
[03:13] <compholio> it's like it's stuck on the ~karmic0 package, waiting for that to finish (which will never happen)
[03:15] <compholio> wow, either you did something or it finally pushed through
[03:16] <mwhudson> i didn't do anything :-)
[03:16] <compholio> it still lists ~karmic0 as pending, but at least it should work for users
[03:16] <compholio> i can live with those pending forever
[03:17] <compholio> well, thanks for listening :)
[03:17] <mwhudson> ah yeah, i don't know what's going to happen there
[03:17] <mwhudson> can you delete the 'zombie' packages?
[03:18] <compholio> where would i even do that?
[03:18] <compholio> (it doesn't show as being published)
[03:19] <mwhudson> i don't know
[03:20] <compholio> i think it'll be a zombie forever
[03:21] <mwhudson> i guess we can clean up the database by hand
[03:22] <compholio> i suppose i could try figuring out the deletion POST and manually executing the request
[03:23] <compholio> i'm just hesitant to do that and possibly break things
[04:27] <wgrant> compholio: The builds are stuck in limbo due to an unrelated bug.
[04:27] <wgrant> That fix should be out in the next couple of days.
[04:27] <wgrant> But the old package is now gone, so you can ignore it.
[04:27] <compholio> great, thanks for the info
[06:22] <cwillu_at_work> bac, who would I talk to about recovering a launchpad id?
[06:23] <cwillu_at_work> in 2005 I registered cwillu under sasktel.net, and then I moved to a different province and lost access to that account.  I've been using cwillu.com as my user id since 2006, but the .com in there always bugs me :p
[06:24] <wgrant> cwillu_at_work: Ask at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[06:24] <wgrant> bac is hopefully asleep at the moment.
[06:24] <cwillu_at_work> okay, thanks
[06:42] <bac> hi cwillu_at_work
[06:43] <bac> wgrant: thanks for the help.
[09:58] <ara> hello all!
[09:58] <ara> when I try to use apport to report a crash (size of 130MB) it gives me a 502 error, any ideas?
[11:12] <bigjools> gmb or allenap, can you help ara --^ ?
[11:12] <allenap> ara: Woah, that's quite a big crash. I'll try and figure out why it's a 502.
[11:13] <ara> allenap, thanks! (in the mean time I am trying to upload file by file manually...)
[11:23] <allenap> ara: Against what package were you reporting the bug?
[11:24] <ara> allenap, simple-scan
[11:41] <fta> danilos, hi, does LP care about PO-Revision-Date and POT-Revision-Date when importing from a bzr branch? I've uploaded an update of my chromium strings with older dates and lp doesn't seem to react at all (nothing new in the queue after 1h+))
[11:42] <danilos> fta, it doesn't care about them for bzr branch imports
[11:42] <danilos> fta, has the branch been scanned? (i.e. new revision shows up on the branch page)
[11:42] <fta> danilos, good, thanks. I assume it's just slow then
[11:43] <danilos> fta, it shouldn't be that slow either
[11:43] <fta> danilos, yep, https://code.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/chromium-translations.head   rev5
[11:44] <fta> (boohh, i'm bad with changelogs)
[11:47] <fta> danilos, also, in the queue, it's confusing to see status = "Imported" and "Will be imported into Template blabla" at the same time. Done or not?
[11:47] <danilos> fta, it's "done"
[11:48] <fta> danilos, shouldn't the "will be" go away then?
[11:48] <danilos> fta, yes, care to fix it? :)
[11:50] <danilos> fta, you can file a bug as well, but we are not going to worry about it anytime soon
[11:50] <danilos> and then, there's also bug 133996
[11:54] <fta> danilos, i'll go for the bug (i already have a dozen or so of lp/soyuz bugs that are sitting there waiting for a good soul to give them some love, one more wont hurt me)
[11:54] <danilos> fta, now, about the problem, we've hit an exception and it seems to be related to either template renames or additions; I've filed it as bug 655077
[11:55] <allenap> ara: I can't find any logs or OOPSes relating to simple-scan and 502 errors. How far did the upload progress?
[11:56] <fta> danilos, i renamed some po files to match the ubuntu supported langs, could that be it?
[11:56] <ara> allenap, just up 'til the very end. when the progress bar finishes, is when I get the 502
[11:57] <fta> danilos, and next question, anything i should do to unbreak this import?
[11:57] <allenap> ara: Oh no, that sucks. Sorry that I don't have any answers. I can't find anything in the LP code-base that would cause it either.
[11:57] <danilos> fta, I am trying to figure out what it might be: no .pot files have moved around, right?
[11:57] <danilos> fta, I am trying to figure out a workaround at the same time :)
[11:57] <fta> danilos, no, just bzr mv a bunch of .po
[11:58] <fta> danilos, but yesterday i disabled some templates in LP, the pot are still updated in the bzr branch though
[11:58] <danilos> fta, ah, that might be it... let's try re-enabling them and triggering the import again just to see if that's the problem
[11:59] <ara> allenap, OK, no worries, thanks for your help
[11:59] <fta> danilos, (you have the details in your mailbox (thread to Evan wrt chromium translations))
[12:00] <danilos> fta, yeah, I'll re-enable them temporarily (I can see them all listed on "full list of templates" on https://translations.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/translations/+templates)
[12:01] <danilos> fta, and I'll request a one-time import from the sync settings page
[12:02] <fta> danilos, ok, no problem. those .pot are sane, it's just that there're no corresponding .po because upstream doesn't translate those strings at all.
[12:03] <danilos> fta, right, it should do no harm then
[12:03] <danilos> fta, we'll need to wait another 7 minutes for the script to run and then we'll know if that's the issue
[12:04] <fta> ok
[12:11] <fta> danilos, seems better
[12:12] <danilos> fta, right, so we at least know what the problem is, thanks for complaining
[12:12] <danilos> fta, I'll try to get this scheduled for fixing soon, but I can't promise anything just now (we've got a lot of work on our hands atm)
[12:13] <fta> danilos, great :)  marking 'deleted' the old po then..
[12:17] <danilos> fta, I've also left all the templates "active" for you, and I guess you can add template descriptions to point people that they should not translate them (not many will see/read that, but at least some might :)
[12:17] <danilos> fta, you can also set priority on them so they are listed in the order of priority: the higher number, the earlier in the list it will be
[13:07] <sladen> is there an handy syntax like  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+filebug?subject=Please%20support  ?
[13:07] <sladen> where I can pre-popular the subject line?
[13:13] <allenap> sladen: I don't think that's possible, but I'll take a look.
[13:15] <allenap> sladen: Happily I'm wrong: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+filebug?field.title=Please%20support
[13:16] <wgrant> field.tags is also handy.
[13:17] <sladen> wgrant: allenap: ++
[13:35] <deryck> sladen, hi.  Your question on malone about this filebug url hacking is solved now, right?  Or did you need more info about it?
[13:41] <sladen> deryck: yes, but I can't close it without adding a comment first...
[13:42] <sladen> deryck: so I started filing a bug on the fact that I couldn't cose it without commenting first
[13:42] <sladen> deryck: and eventually went "can I really be arsed"
[13:42] <sladen> deryck: perhaps admins have a way of closing as solved without commenting! :)
[13:42] <deryck> ok, I'll close it.  Thanks.  (And no, a comment is required for everyone.)
[14:15] <fta> danilos, all pot files imported but not a single po (2h after the pot), is it normal or is there another issue?
[14:39] <danilos> fta, it's normal that they come later (.pot files are "approved" right when they are added to the queue, .po files need to wait for the auto-approver script to run which takes a while
[14:51] <maxb> Ooi, what does this "approval" actually check for / mean?
[15:34] <thopiekar> hi I tried to upload a package yesterday two times but I got no mail and the package doesn'T appear at my ppa
[15:35] <thopiekar> it was ffmpeg-vaapi for ppa:thopiekar/ppa
[15:35] <bigjools> thopiekar: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+faq/227
[15:35] <thopiekar> or ppa:thopiekar/maverick-dev
[15:36] <thopiekar> it was signed and I got no mail and the package was originally taken from apt-get source , but ok Ill check it again..
[15:36] <thopiekar> thanks bigjools!
[15:37] <ari-tczew> is there any launchpad admin? I have to look into my karma with details.
[15:37] <bigjools> thopiekar: please check all things pointed out in that FAQ, if you're sure you did everything it said then I will check the logs for you
[15:46] <jcsackett> ari-tczew: What do you need to know?
[15:46] <ari-tczew> jcsackett: from my ~ari-tczew/+karma page: 1 hour ago   	Bug Marked as Fixed
[15:46] <ari-tczew> the number of bug
[15:51] <jcsackett> ah, ari-tczew, it looks like https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/shutter/+bug/511942 was automatically closed by Launchpad Janitor 1 hour ago; which is a bug you are affiliated with.
[15:51] <jcsackett> it matches the time in your karma log, so i'm inferring. i don't have access to the exact information.
[15:52] <ari-tczew> jcsackett: it seems to be a bug, right?
[15:53] <ari-tczew> maybe we should ask wgrant for it ^^
[15:53] <jcsackett> oh, you want more info on the report, not the specific rundown on that info. sorry, i misunderstood. :-)
[15:56] <ari-tczew> jcsackett: I've been worried when I looked on my karma page. I was offline 1 hour ago, so how could I fix a bug?
[15:59] <jcsackett> ari-tczew: i'm checking on some of how the karma log is calculated and displayed. i should have an answer shortly.
[16:06] <sinzui> jcsackett, karma is an obscure calculation. it is not designed to be understood
[16:08] <sinzui> ari-tczew, I think this is the bug in your karma https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/mtd-utils/+bug/583280
[16:08] <sinzui> jcsackett, ari-tczew: bots do not get karma, but the bug was assigned to you so you were rewarded
[16:09] <sinzui> jcsackett, ari-tczew: The indirect action allows release managers and bots to close bugs without taking karma from the user who did the work
[16:16] <fta> danilos, why are the translator notes displayed twice for each string? https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/translations/+pots/generated-resources/fr/+translate
[16:19] <danilos> fta, it looks like a problem with a parser... "translator note" should be a regular comment, and the "info" box should be used for these comments
[16:20] <ari-tczew> sinzui: what's the conclusion? is it a bug or not? IMO it is. only kklimonda should got karma.
[16:21] <fta> danilos, the very 1st version i've uploaded was all "# bla", i then moved to "#. bla" because the 1st one was not visible in the LP UI
[16:27] <sinzui> ari-tczew, there is no bug.
[16:29] <sinzui> ari-tczew, you were given karma for  bug 583280 which lists you as the assignee. kklimonda is not associated with this bug
[16:49] <danilos> fta, oh, we don't re-import translations when only comments are changed (it's an optimization), so that explains it
[16:51] <fta> danilos, my r5 has new strings
[17:03] <rick_h__> anyone point me where to file a big for when a new user signs up for a loco group?
[17:04] <rick_h__> I see links saying to report bugs to use https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad but there are no bugs there
[17:04] <danilos> fta, we do it on a message level basis: if a translation for a single message is not changed, we don't reimport all the comments
[17:06] <maxb> rick_h__: It's fine to file bugs there, they just all get triaged out of that project into more specific ones, IIUC
[17:06] <fta> danilos, anything i can do to reset everything? it's unlikely upstream changes all the strings
[17:06] <rick_h__> ah ok. makes sense I guess. Just saw 0 across the board and figured it was the wrong place
[17:07] <EdwinGrubbs> bdmurray: I asked jcsackett to fix xx-person-subscriptions.txt, since it looks like a two-line fix. That way we can land a single testfix branch, which should make it through pqm faster.
[17:08] <bdmurray> EdwinGrubbs: okay, thanks
[17:09] <bdmurray> EdwinGrubbs: where could I find the fix? I'm curious what went wrong
[17:10] <EdwinGrubbs> bdmurray: it looks like you just changed person.name to person.displayname in the template without changing it in the test also.
[17:10] <EdwinGrubbs> bdmurray: oops, not person.displayname, I mean product.displayname
[17:12] <EdwinGrubbs> bdmurray: hmm, since you are displaying bug subscriptions, maybe a different branch changed the bugtask from the distrosourcepackage to the project.
[17:15] <danilos> fta, not really, you can probably import random strings and then re-import proper translations, but that's far from perfect
[17:15] <ari-tczew> sinzui: why karma is anonymous?
[17:16] <sinzui> what is anonymous about it?
[17:30] <ari-tczew> sinzui: "Bug Marked as Fixed" doesn't show the number bug.
[17:34] <james_w> I am unable to find out what OOPS-1739B2134 is, and it is blocking my work. Is there a handle that needs to be cranked somewhere?
[17:46] <thopiekar> hey.. could you please stop some build for me? ffmpeg* for ppa:thopiekar/poulsbo
[17:46] <thopiekar> thanks!
[17:46]  * thopiekar just wants to save time..
[18:02] <thopiekar> got this when copying packages from ppa:thopiekar/maverick-dev to ppa:thopiekar/poulsbo: ffmpeg-extra 4:0.6-2ubuntu2vaapi0ppa0 in maverick (same version already building in the destination archive for Maverick)
[18:03] <thopiekar> I removed the packages while they where building, because a dep hasn't finished to build..
[18:05] <ronny> hi
[18:06] <ronny> jelmer: i just saw your post on the lp buildfarm, and now im wondering if you know a good way to automate pushing releases there via a ppa
[18:07] <jelmer> ronny: Daily builds? We have a mechanism for that :-)
[18:07] <ronny> jelmer: good, any vcs agnostic stuff?
[18:08] <ronny> (i'd like to set up release and nightly ubuntu builds for all pida stuff and some codespeak stuff)
[18:09] <jelmer> ronny: it's implemented using bzr though you can have it import from git, svn or hg.
[18:10] <ronny> jelmer: that'll break version number generation for my projects :)
[18:11] <ronny> depends on hg o pkg-info/named "cachefile"
[18:11] <ronny> *or
[18:12] <jelmer> ronny: ah :-(
[18:13] <jelmer> ronny: that wouldn't work in any case then since it exports from a set of bzr branches, the actual build happens in a tree without a .bzr directory afaik
[18:14] <ronny> i see, so the build farms are practically broken for anyone that actually utilizes the vcs he's using
[18:14] <ronny> (in terms of auto-build)
[18:15] <ronny> i suppose i'll have to invent a distutils dput command and try to throw that at the ci or something
[18:21] <jonrafkind> pbuilder is creating corrupted base.tgz files, anyone ever seen that?
[18:33] <jelmer> ronny: sorry, I was wrong. It does give you a .bzr directory. So you should be able to obtain the upstream revision from that, even if upstream was in hg, git or svn.
[18:33] <jelmer> ronny: If you're interested in getting that going, let me know.
[18:34] <ronny> jelmer: do you import hg tags?
[18:37] <jelmer> ronny: yes
[18:37] <jelmer> ronny: ehm, sorry
[18:37] <jelmer> ronny: no
[18:37] <jelmer> ronny: not yet
[18:37] <ronny> as long as that wont happen its out of question anyway
[18:38] <ronny> i generate the versions via ${last tag trimmed to a version}.post${distance to that tag}
[18:39] <jelmer> ronny: the .hgtags file will be available though
[18:39] <jelmer> ronny: it's just a regular versioned file isn't it?
[18:40] <ronny> yes
[18:40] <ronny> but i really dont fancy inventing that logic
[18:41] <ronny> (walking the bzr history, extracting the hg id's and combining them with the hgtags data is just waaa over board)
[18:55] <nigelb> sinzui: thanks :)
[19:29] <maxb> ronny: Hah. no it's not
[19:29] <maxb> You can import the .hgtags with a one-liner shellscript
[19:30] <maxb> The Bazaar revids created by bzr-hg are "hg-v1:" + mercurial_changeset_sha
[19:37] <ronny> maxb: i also need to callculate the distances
[19:37] <maxb> distances?
[19:38] <ronny> version id's for non releases are composed of last tag + distance in commits to the tag
[19:39] <maxb> Well, turning the .hgtags into real bzr tags is easy. Figuring the distance after that must be a fairly tractable problem
[19:40] <maxb> Even if you just have a super-naive script which walks backwards along the parents until it hits a revision with a tag
[20:22] <sladen> deryck: so that email directs me to  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-licence/+configure-bugtracker  which says "sorry, you don't have permission"
[20:22] <deryck> hmmm
[20:23] <sladen> deryck: same with edge.
[20:24] <ronny> maxb: i cant afford to have a gpl'd codebase tho, and i really dont like the idea of writing/testing support code for a vcs i tend to avoid just to have its imports supplt correct metadata for my hg managed projects
[20:25] <deryck> sinzui, see sladen above ^^. can bug supervisor not reach +configure-bugtracker?
[20:30] <sinzui> deryck, sladen, EdwinGrubbs. A bug supervisor was never able to configure the bug tracker, not do I think can he set the roles. but I suspect there was a collision on features. I believe the supervisor still needs to set guidelines/response and if he does not have a separate url for that, then someone need to make configure bugtracker work
[20:31] <deryck> sinzui, so currently, only maintainer can set this?  *sigh*  I made some stupid mistakes with this email.
[20:32] <sinzui> deryck, quick, lets lad a change
[20:32] <sinzui> deryck, is the change needed for expiration or for guidelines/response
[20:33] <deryck> sinzui, to re-enable bug expiry if they desire.
[20:33] <sinzui> deryck, :( that is a part of the widget, only the owner can monkey with the widget
[20:34] <sinzui> deryck, do you think the rule is wrong? I am undecided
[20:34] <deryck> sinzui, so I'll send mail to clean up my mess then.  sladen, you can ignore the mail, sorry.  Only owners can change the setting.
[20:35] <deryck> sinzui, I think bug supervisor should be able to change anything on configure-bugtracker, but I see why others might not want this.
[20:35] <sinzui> can a bug supervisor change the bug tracker to email or unknown?
[20:35]  * sinzui thinks
[20:37] <sladen> deryck: sinzui: yeah, so I can see (for instance)  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+configure-bugtracker
[20:37] <sladen> deryck: sinzui: ...but didn't get any mail about /that/
[20:37] <deryck> sinzui, I don't think we should change the rule.  It was dumb of me.  I was only thinking of enable bug expriy, which the bug supervisor should control.  the rest, not.
[20:37] <sinzui> deryck, upstream bug contact == bug supervisor. If I was the contact for Empathy (which does not use Lp), I would expect to be able to 1. remove myself, 2, add a security contact person, change guidelines, and yes change to something that allowed true bug syncing
[20:37] <sladen> deryck: sinzui: the only one I /got/ mail for is the one I can't access...
[20:38] <deryck> sladen, it's because we sent mail to bug supevisors and not project owners.  It's my mistake.
[20:38] <sinzui> :(
[20:39] <sinzui> wow. This reminds me of when I expired 10,000k bugs in 2007. That really upset people.
[20:39]  * sladen can't wait for bug expiry---the kernel team keep talking of a script to do it through the API, but I've yet to find it
[20:39] <sinzui> deryck, I do not think you have corrupted data on a grand scale yet so cheer up.
[20:40] <sladen> (all the ones where for politics you don't actually want to _personally_ touch the bug, but just have an anonymous third party Stig-type creature do it on your behalf
[20:40] <deryck> sinzui, yeah, the data is fine.  We need to turn it off anyway.  The emails are all that is bad.  I can at least re-send.
[20:40] <deryck> I just don't like making mistakes. ;)
[20:42] <grumpytoad> is the git mirroring system any better than the mercurial one ?
[20:47] <deryck> heh, if there's any justice in the world for my mistake.... it's death by 1000 auto responders.
[20:47] <deryck> lots of people are out of the office today.
[20:48]  * sladen nearly chokes with laungher
[20:56] <negativezero> howdy folks! i'm looking to try out launchpad locally, but apt can't seem to find launchpad-developer-dependencies.  i've added the ppa's from dev.launchpad.net/Getting, but no dice. what could i be missing?
[22:25] <maxb> negativezero: A bug in Launchpad wiped out launchpad-developer-dependencies in the Launchpad PPA :-/
[22:35] <negativezero> a-ha!
[22:36] <negativezero> thanks, maxb.  i was starting to suspect that recommended course of action was going to be "wait"
[22:36] <maxb> Maybe I should re-upload it
[22:36] <wgrant> maxb: No need to reupload. You could delete and recopy. Or wait for us to fix it tonight.
[22:37] <maxb> 0.82 ought to be synced from maverick->lucid anyway, so let's do that
[22:37] <wgrant> Er, doesn't it have the pyython-py change?
[22:38] <wgrant> That won't work on Lucid.
[22:38] <maxb> no
[22:39] <wgrant> Ah, indeed.
[22:39] <wgrant> And that will have just conveniently removed one from the list of PPAs that I have to repair.
[22:40] <maxb> negativezero: So, the packages should be republished just as soon as the publisher cronjob gets around to it
[22:53] <negativezero> maxb: sweet. thanks!
[22:54] <maxb> (which it did 6 minutes ago, ftr)
[22:56] <negativezero> maxb: installation in progress. much obliged
[23:19] <tkamppeter> Can someone remove the user soldierboy101st from LP, he is a spammer, see especially bug 66860.
[23:23] <tkamppeter> Or at least tell him that someone has broken into his account?
[23:38] <Noldorin> deryck, any reason why i'm getting spammed with emails about Auto Expiring bugs?
[23:38] <deryck> Noldorin, you get one email for every project you own on Launchpad.
[23:46] <Noldorin> deryck, i have 13 projects and 22 emails :S
[23:47] <deryck> Noldorin, perhaps your email is used as a contact for a team that owns projects?
[23:47] <Noldorin> deryck, ah, perhaps
[23:47] <deryck> at any rate, it's a one time noise.  Better safe than sorry when changing people's settings, I think.
[23:48] <Noldorin> deryck, ok, well that explains at least,
[23:48] <Noldorin> deryck, yeah, no worries, i can put up with it as a one-off. it might however be advisable if you do it in the future that the email is only sent once to each recipient
[23:49] <deryck> Noldorin, sure, that's a good suggestion.  In this case, I sent by project, not person.  So yeah, if we ever do it again, we can do different.
[23:50] <Noldorin> deryck, fair enough, that would be good. well cheers for notifying anyway, no way i'm missing that message!
[23:50] <deryck> cheers
[23:56] <Francois___> Hello all
[23:57] <Francois___> is there any way to report people that should be banned from Launchpad ?
[23:58] <deryck> Hi, Francois___.  Why does someone need to be banned?  Are they spamming bugs or some such?
[23:59] <Francois___> just read by yourself: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/128068