[02:55] jcastro, 4 open slots left [03:00] akgraner: are you in #ubuntu-bugs? [03:00] can you join for a minute and we'll make that 4 :D [03:01] sure [03:01] nigelb, ok I'm there [03:05] bah! [03:05] ohai, jcastro_ :) [04:07] akgraner: jcastro: I can help fill one of the open week slots [04:07] We need to get the UOW slots filled so we can really start recruiting for the first LoCo Day ;) [04:07] dinda awesome!!! [04:08] akgraner: can do an Ubuntu in Education session [04:08] great what day do you want? [04:08] akgraner: thursday 14 oct is fine [04:09] ok adding it [04:10] dinda, added Thursday 1700 UTC [04:10] THANK YOU!!! [04:11] akgraner: no problem [05:12] akgraner: small surprises do happen in life :) [05:12] that was fun :) [07:30] good morning [07:37] hola dpm [07:37] hey dholbach :) [07:37] good morning everyone! [07:52] morning dholbach, dpm, ara :) [07:52] hi nigelb [07:52] good morning nigelb! [07:54] hey nigelb, dpm [07:55] buenos días ara :) [07:58] Mortning all. welcome to this fine tuesday! [08:00] Morning jussi :) [08:00] Hows everyone today? :) [08:01] IM well, and well rested. you? [08:02] A good warm day, I hope it doesn't rain today [08:03] morning folks [08:04] good morning jussi, morning kim0_ [08:09] morning kim0 :) [08:10] hey kim0, welcome back :) [08:10] nigelb: morning man :) [08:10] dpm: hehe had to bounce yeah [08:10] dholbach: morningo [08:10] heya kim0 [08:13] ara, is http://hall-of-fame.ubuntu.com/ alright? [08:13] ara, http://stats.qa.ubuntu.com/files/hallfame.txt seems to be empty which is a bit weird, no? aren't people testing? :) [08:15] ara, let's chat later, I just noticed I need to rush off to the dentist [08:15] see you [08:17] dholbach, ok, talk to you later. That data is OK, I'll explain you when you're back [08:32] morning all [08:42] duanedesign: ping [08:42] morning :) [08:43] hey, does anyone in the Bt want to talk about BT per se? [08:43] I'm thinking perhaps cprofitt [08:43] (this is for UOW) [08:43] we have like 4 more slots I think [09:00] nigelb: i thought about it... [09:02] nigelb: but we are working on a lot of restructuring of the focus groups and the membership process [09:03] duanedesign: ah! ok :) [09:03] nigelb: thank you though! [09:05] nigelb: i see we both retweeted 'the os doesn't matter' :) [09:18] Aloha [09:34] you know I have been banging on for ages about the lack of a partner mailing list [09:34] turns out there is one already, and I have been automatically subscribed to it for years. [09:34] https://lists.canonical.com/mailman/private/partners/ [09:35] someone sent a mail to it today for the first time since February 2009 [09:36] hah [09:36] morning AlanBell czajkowski [09:36] duanedesign: howdy [09:46] czajkowski: morning :) [09:46] AlanBell: hahaha [09:47] duanedesign: heh, we have similar interests :) [09:47] duanedesign: did you see mdz's tweet about american education not teaching programming? [09:47] well that was from stormy [09:47] mdz Rt'd it [09:48] jono: Good morning [09:48] czajkowski: ah, yes, stormy :) [09:48] AlanBell: lists.canonical.com = lists.ubuntu.com? [09:48] nope [09:48] hey czajkowski [09:48] :) [09:49] czajkowski, we should chat today [09:49] hey jono :) [09:49] while I am in a decent TZ [09:49] hi jono, did you know https://lists.canonical.com/mailman/listinfo/partners existed? [09:49] haha [09:49] AlanBell, nope [09:49] jono: you're in asia? :p [09:49] (decent tz :D) [09:50] * popey suspects he's in London [09:50] * nigelb thinks so too [09:51] jono: sounds like a plan :) [09:51] AlanBell: deja vu [09:51] Im sure we've talked before about how https://lists.canonical.com/mailman/listinfo redirects to show the ubuntu lists and not the canonical ones [09:52] was this not brought up at a round table at last UDS ?? [09:52] nigelb, lol [09:52] https://lists.canonical.com/mailman/admin [09:52] czajkowski: it was, and there has been an rt request for partners@lists.ubuntu.com for *ages* [09:52] i suspect there's a lot of private lists [09:53] the website list is on l.c.c which was a bit of a surprise [09:53] AlanBell: quoting from jorge "a lists.ubuntu.com takes 2 years!" [09:53] jono: what time suits ? [09:59] nigelb: hmm, didn;t see that tweet [10:00] nigelb: and apparently requests for lists.canonical.com get provisioned in -3 years! [10:01] AlanBell: haha [10:01] oh, yay! India won the test match :) [10:01] suprising to see India related topics trending on twitter :p [10:09] ara, so what's the deal with the testing data? :) [10:09] hi jono [10:09] dholbach, hey [10:10] dholbach, the thing is that, for ISO testing, we collect the data from the active milestone, and right now the active milestone is Final Release, and we haven't started testing yet [10:11] ara, hmhmhm, I see - I wonder if there's a way to say "top testers of this week" or something [10:12] czajkowski, this afternoon please [10:12] dholbach, hey I have a meeting, can we talk in an hour or so? [10:13] jono, yes [10:13] dholbach, thanks [10:13] jono: grand [10:13] dholbach, it does not make much sense for ISO testing, as we test from milestone to milestone [10:13] ara, hm, I'm not sure I understand [10:14] dholbach, the thing is that we don't test the isos on a weekly basis [10:14] just on a milestone basis [10:14] right [10:15] ara, do you think it would make sense to have the data presented in a form like "top testers of this week" [10:15] ara, or maybe "top testers of last milestone" [10:15] (to me it sounds like a "transform data we have and present it in a different way" problem) [10:15] dholbach, mmm, I prefer to have the data from the current milestone [10:15] in any case I'll leave that decision to you [10:15] ok [10:16] dholbach, if you want, next time, I won't reset the tracker until we have new data ;-) [10:16] sounds like a good and simple fix to me :) [10:16] so we can appreciate the good testing work a bit longer :-) [10:17] :) [11:03] nigelb: !!! [11:03] nigelb: check your mail!!! [11:17] vish: oh no [11:17] I hate it when he does that [11:18] nigelb: hehe! but this time its with a cherry on top ;) [11:24] hello vish [11:24] duanedesign: hey … [11:25] duanedesign: nigelb just got a local as his student.. kinda rare phenomenon here ;) [11:26] vish: was this for bug squad? [11:26] yup [11:26] nice [11:27] vish: heard from ddecator in awhile? [11:27] duanedesign: nope, last i heard he was been busy [with school?].. he hasnt yet returned.. :) [11:28] * duanedesign nods [11:49] ara, done: http://hall-of-fame.ubuntu.com/ :) [11:50] dholbach, awesome! [11:50] * ara hugs dholbach [11:50] * dholbach hugs ara back [11:50] easier than I thought :-D [11:52] dholbach, are you planning in start rotating the featured contributor again? :D [11:53] ara, care to write up something? :-) [11:53] dholbach, no, no, I was just wondering :D [11:55] jono, I'm going out for lunch etc now, maybe we can chat in the afternoon [11:55] ;] [12:30] vish: now it hit me how rare that is [12:31] * nigelb owes you. [12:31] as soon as i saw where he was from! i just thought nigelb got a new LoCo member! :) [12:31] * popey is making some indian food on thursday, might try making jalebi [12:32] not made it before [12:32] haven't had it since I was a kid [12:32] aaargh! so hungry now! :D [12:32] popey: jalebi is not food! its snack! ;) [12:32] i am thinking for dessert [12:33] for main course I'm doing ... http://www.1asianfoodrecipes.com/indian-recipes/indian-meat-chicken/recipes-braised-masala-leg-lamb-raan-pathani.php [12:33] that [12:33] * nigelb had jalebi last night [12:33] There is a place near my house that serves it hot! [12:33] co-worker was telling me she's making loads of them for their temple at the weekend [12:33] its *very* yummy [12:34] she suggested having it with ice cream, which sounds yum [12:34] ice cream and jelabi => blasphemy [12:34] haha [12:34] ice cream and carrot halwa rocks [12:34] oooo, not had that for a long time [12:35] ice cream and hot jalebi *is* quit a famous combination [12:35] quite* [12:35] hot, maybe [12:35] but gulab jamun rocks better for that [12:35] yeah, would need to be hot [12:35] ooo [12:36] man, now I miss home :/ [12:36] where do you live now? [12:37] * AlanBell looks forward to UDS-O in India [12:37] oh yes! [12:37] jono: jcastro ^^ [12:37] :D [12:37] popey: I'm in Bangalore, Home is kerala :) [12:38] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angamaly => more precise [12:40] dholbach would also prefer one here ;) [12:40] well, dholbach would want it in a city with "i" [12:40] :p [12:44] jono is there a release party in London on Sunday? [12:48] they'd all be sleeping! [12:50] nigelb: also, him being in college can/may help you grow a larger LoCo there.. [12:50] his* [12:50] vish: \o/ [12:50] I wish I could get the lug up and running [12:50] its starting to awaken slowly :) [12:51] akgraner: 07:51 < Riddell> nigelb: ok, put me down for "Kubuntu is awesome" at 16:00 on Monday [12:52] awesome! [12:53] adding it now :-) [12:54] 2 sessions to go [13:00] yay [13:00] * nigelb hugs akgraner [13:00] at least today has been full of win with that :) [13:01] yeppers [13:01] I wish it was full of win on everything I am working on today :-) [13:01] * nigelb hugs akgraner some more :) [13:03] thanks! - I found out last night the Colorguard needs 21 uniforms cut out, fitted and sewn by thursday [13:03] UGH! [13:04] so we got them all cut out last night - now comes the fun part - and I don' [13:04] I don't set sleeves [13:05] so I'll work on the skirts - I mumbled something about auto-tab completing them - no one got my joke :-( [13:05] THis is a public service announcement : akgraner is now a diehard geek [13:05] then I said something about heavy drinking after we were finished with them - the women who were preachers wives didn't think I was funny either [13:08] nigelb, yes I think I have been simulated - the band room computers locked up and the I told their IT guys - here's and Ubuntu CD I bet that will solve your problems - they didn't find that funny either... I got oh so YOU use LINUX [13:08] LOL [13:08] dang it where did my 'a' go [13:08] stupid spellcheck [13:09] I was not making friends and influencing people last night that's for sure... - Oh well I am back in my comfort zone :-) yay!!! [13:10] and once I finish up UWN this morning - I'll go back to learning git - woo hoo!!! and finding two more people to fill those slots if htey haven't been filled before then - anywho - catch you all later ;-) [13:12] ciao :) [13:37] dholbach, it seems you created quite a stir in the Persian translation community. I've been working with them lately and it seems the revival of the Persian translation effort is taking shape! [13:38] witness the powers of dholbach [13:38] \o/ [13:38] so, here's my proposal: whenever there is a team that needs help, we send a horseman to that particular country [13:39] That might actually not be too bad :D [13:39] dpm, !خيلى خوب :-) [13:40] dholbach, عالی! [13:41] * dpm hopes he's not writing something stupid [13:41] * kim0 has no idea [13:41] oh that could be good idea :) [13:41] developers get to go places so should ye :) [13:41] * dholbach hugs dpm [13:41] :-) [13:41] * dpm hugs dholbach [13:43] checking who's in the loco wherever your travelling is generally a good idea :) [13:45] yup I did that when I went to Canada [13:45] worked out well [13:51] jcastro_: confirming that we are still using the old track names when making blueprints instead of the new names? [14:16] cjohnston: I guess [14:16] we can always renamed them [14:17] Ok.. That seems to be how they are being done, so I wasn't sure.. Thanks jcastro [14:18] yes I am confused on how existing tracks would fit into the new layout [14:18] but at least this way we can get them up on lp [14:18] lol [14:35] ara: is there a page for new people and this test case QA thing? [14:35] I would like to help get the word out [14:37] jcastro: which test case thing? :) [14:39] ara: the thing with unit tests you're discussing in -desktop that sounds amazing but I must have missed it. :) [14:40] jcastro: ah! not unit tests, but functional tests. Yes, I wrote a blog post a couple of months ago: http://ubuntutesting.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/love-an-upstream-project-want-it-well-tested/ [14:40] ah I remember this. Gotcha [14:41] jcastro: I need to rethink the testing information we have right now, and put it all together nicely in the new qa.ubuntu.com [14:41] it is one of the goals I have for next cycle [14:41] ok [14:41] I will tweet the wiki pages in the meantime [14:43] btw, for all you who love craziness, if you missed it, #ubuntu-release-party has been opened... [14:57] ara: do you have a spec yet for n? I would like participate [14:57] jcastro, not yet, but I soon as I do, I will subscribe you [14:57] feel free to mark me essential! [15:06] And for those that don't love craziness, we have #ubuntu-release-announce this time around. [15:07] heh [15:23] jussi: craziness ftw [15:24] Pici: with channels like that being created next we'll have an OMGubuntu post on it's been released :p [15:34] :) [15:40] thanks james_w :) [15:41] np [15:42] dholbach, about ready for a call? [15:42] jono, yep [15:42] jono, mumble? [15:44] dholbach, yep, one sec [15:44] jono, please move me into the right mumble room :-P [15:44] coiol [15:44] I can't open the mumble window in unity :) [15:44] just escaping here [15:44] finally [15:44] :) [15:44] dholbach, sod it, let's do skype [15:44] jono, booting it [15:50] dholbach, cant hear you [15:59] dpm, call? [15:59] jono, sure, mumble or skype? [16:00] dpm, let's do skype [16:00] jono: you're on a roll [16:01] czajkowski, :) [16:01] jono: what time are you slotting me in ;) [16:01] czajkowski, in about 15mins or so [16:01] after I am done with dpm [16:01] lovely [16:17] czajkowski, all set? [16:18] sure [16:29] akgraner, jcastro: SUCCESS! [16:29] All slots filled for UOW [16:30] YES! [16:30] woo hoo! [16:30] nigelb, what is the last session on Friday for [16:31] akgraner: hggdh agreed to do a sesion [16:31] akgraner: ping re by class [16:31] I'm in the wiki putting it in [16:31] nigelb, ahh ok I was about to log into it [16:31] hggdh, hey! thanks for agreeing to facilitate a session [16:31] akgraner: sorry for the delay, things got a bit busy [16:32] hggdh: Plese do wake up by friday :p [16:32] hggdh, no worries - we all know that feeling :-) [16:32] heh [16:32] akgraner: I'm uot of the wiki now :) [16:32] \o/ [16:32] ok, now it's time to get the word out! [16:32] ok I'll go in a tweak it with links to all the leaders [16:32] nigelb: I will put on two different alarms, one on each side of the bed [16:33] If you can blog about it today - I can tomorrow as well as send out the email to the session leaders with all their info [16:33] I can [16:33] let me work the J man on it [16:33] ok, I'll stagger for tomorrow [16:33] hggdh: heh [16:33] jcastro: hahaha [16:34] awesome! [16:34] o.O [16:34] * hggdh saves the channel in the auto-connect list [16:39] akgraner: are you going to redo the pampphlet? [16:39] I assume no [16:40] I can - but no one uses it [16:40] fixing the wiki [16:40] so I wasn't going to unless you really want it [16:40] let's spend a moment wishing the idea a farewell [16:40] I was just going to make a session/session leaders page [16:40] (no seriously good job) [16:40] but let's shoot for bang for the buck [16:40] nods [16:40] session lead page [16:41] I've corrected the links [16:41] thanks! [16:41] but haven't created it yet [16:41] ON IT [16:42] * nigelb sings auld lange syne for the pamphlet [16:43] I loved the quality of it [16:43] jcastro: the last one looks /very/ nice [16:43] maybe it will be a good thing for something down the line - we tried it :-) it's cool.. [16:45] yeah [16:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek_ES/ [16:45] man [16:45] these guys got their stuff together [16:45] look at their branding [16:46] jcastro: we could use some love for loco days [16:46] what do you mean? [16:46] jcastro: dang. they truely rock [16:46] jcastro: some tweet/blog/dents about it [16:47] ok [16:47] let me get openweek outta the way [16:47] and if you can talk to different locos about it, that'd be sweet, especially the ones not natively english [16:47] yep, we're waiting for that too [16:47] yeah except I am notoriously english-only. :D [16:47] I want to get more locos on the SE, but I don't want to step on those other guys doing the shapado loco thing [16:48] ok so if someone jumps in and wants a session we can probably not make dpm do two sessions [16:48] heh [16:49] speaking of which, dpm should be the best person to talk to about it [16:49] so if we get a last minute person with another topic we'll scratch dpm's friday session [16:49] lol [16:49] jcastro, I'm fine with anything. That reminds me I wanted to send a call for sessions to the translators list. LEt me do that [16:50] dpm: the translations community could help us a lot with loco days, since we could identify the communities that could use some highlighting :) [16:53] nigelb, sure, what are the specific areas in which they could help? Would you mind posting a call for help to the translators list? [16:54] dpm: what we need is session leaders, people who can take irc sessions in other langauages would be awesme [16:54] we 'd like folks to take the idea of classroom to their locos and have sessions in different languages [16:54] yes, I can post an announce to the list :) [16:55] nigelb, that'd be cool, thanks! [17:08] http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/1249597421/announcing-ubuntu-open-week-right-after-10-10-10 [17:11] have a great rest of your day - se you tomorrow [17:11] * dholbach hugs you all [17:15] * cjohnston wonders if I screwed up making my blueprint [17:33] just saw our resident owl. was very cool! [17:38] He has a resident owl [17:39] jussi: Do you travel by floo powder? [17:39] no, just a big property [17:39] :) [17:41] * vish wonders what does david sugar's post today have to do with Ubuntu.. o.0 [17:42] oh yay [17:42] rupee in ubuntu font! [17:42] vish, where? [17:42] got a link? [17:42] http://ubuntuwicohan.blogspot.com/2010/10/why-civil-liberties-matter-open-letter.html [17:42] JFo: ^ [17:42] thx :) [17:42] oh lefty already commented :) [17:42] * JFo reads [17:43] vish: LOL, we should write to TOI - first OS with rupee symbol by default :) [17:43] nigelb: yea!!! where do you see it btw? [17:43] vish: riddel blogged :) [17:45] nigelb: i mean how do i see it the system! :D [17:45] my keyboard is US ;p [17:45] vish: character map? [17:45] ah ha! [17:45] * vish checks [17:46] nice jcastro [17:46] * JFo has his towel ready [17:46] vish: you see it yet? [17:46] no.. i have to update first :) [17:47] aah [17:47] presume it goes in a different place to ₨ [17:54] can't find it in character map at all [17:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%82%A8 [17:58] yeah, I know what it should look like [17:58] just not sure it should be sitting at U+20A8 or somewhere else [17:59] I got a font update today but I still see the old Rs type sign [18:00] hehe, i dont even know where to look at that Rs sign ;p [18:02] bug 645987 [18:02] Launchpad bug 645987 in ubuntu-font-family "Symbol: add U+20B9 INDIAN RUPEE SIGN to currency block (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645987 [18:23] AlanBell: its hidden..! click the empty block below the ₨ the ₹ is there [18:24] ₹ [18:24] huh! ;p [18:25] yay [18:28] the funny thing about the guy who made the font is, he thinks its based on "R" rather than "र" [18:28] nice block of 1's and 0's ;) [18:28] JFo: did you update? [18:28] xchat uses monospace.. so probably not showing up in the chat.. [18:29] vish, not yet [18:29] still hoping to get some work done today :) [18:29] hehe! [18:30] character map still says, U+20B9 , though, seems either i need a reboot or font has not been assigned properly. [18:35] http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mWumljFJslc/SWuIi1IehNI/AAAAAAAAEBM/MZqjsHFkLqo/s400/chennai%2Bbus.jpg&imgrefurl=http://hugotwilliams.wordpress.com/week-1-2/&usg=__LUYLVCIvFApaAoKgYvdG2YzuVy4=&h=300&w=400&sz=30&hl=en&start=24&zoom=1&tbnid=gEtgaVyWUrTvAM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchennai%2Bbus%2Btravel%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1250%26bih%3D691%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1 [18:36] oops! [18:36] wrong channels paste :/ [18:41] and even then [18:41] short url :) [18:42]