[01:22] <elky> * PartyBot1 (~floodbot@ubuntu/bot/partybot) has joined #ubuntu-proxy-users <-- this can't be useful...
[01:22] <elky> Unless it's supposed to?
[01:26] <IdleOne> partybot is a clone of floodbot
[01:27] <IdleOne> probably just uses the same config
[01:34] <nhandler> Yeah, Ljl is still sorting out some issues with the configs iirc
[01:40] <elky> I wasn't sure since it's not opped in there
[01:42] <nhandler> Yeah, it isn't grouped to the FloodBot account
[04:15] <rww> G'day. Was the removal of the banforward *!*@gateway/web/*$#ubuntu-proxy-users in #ubuntu deliberate?
[04:22] <rww> huh, there's *!*@gateway/web/* instead. except webchat people can still speak. so I'm gonna guess there's magic going on. never mind.
[04:22] <rww> s/there's/there's +q/
[08:46] <rww> Hola. Given that http://paste.ubuntu.com/ is no longer requiring logins or whatever, y'all might want to change #ubuntu's topic to point there instead of pastebin.com again.
[09:04] <ikonia> ok
[09:05] <ikonia> done
[09:05] <rww> thanks
[09:05] <ikonia> easy to fix
[09:05] <ikonia> I'm off
[13:37] <ikonia> 13:28 <@PartyBot1> *** Ubuntu-Release RSS feed, [05/10/10 14:28:54] : Maverick release will be delayed due to recent sale of Canonical to Oracle. Check Mark Shuttleworth's blog for further details
[13:37] <ikonia> what's the bot on about ?
[13:38] <jussi> heh...
[13:38] <Pici> Its a 'joke'.  But I don't like it, and I never did the past few releases when it did it.
[13:38] <ikonia> I don't think that's funny
[13:38] <jussi> me either.
[13:38] <ikonia> I think that's stupid and miss-leading
[13:38] <ikonia> in a channel where idiots will take that as fact and start spouting off about it, it's not good
[13:38] <Pici> I don't mind the isitout date calculation thing though.
[13:39] <ikonia> telling people canonical has been sold to Oracle is just stupid though
[14:48] <Test_> moin
[14:49] <Tm_T> hi, how can we help you?
[14:49] <Test_> how can i find german ubuntu-ops channeö?
[14:50] <Pici> Test_: Try #ubuntu-de-ops
[14:50] <Test_> there are only three peoples, but maybe you can help me to
[14:50] <Test_> *too
[14:51] <Test_>  I start to explain...
[14:52] <Test_> For a few months.. my behavior wasnt excellent... i know... so the operator called fuchs banned me and told me, that i first should come back into this channel in two months..
[14:52] <Pici> Test_: We do not handle #ubuntu-de issues here.  If anywhere, #ubuntu-de-ops or possibly #ubuntu-irc
[14:52] <Test_> ok
[18:56] <ikonia> who changed party bots Oracle line ?
[18:59] <IdleOne> ljl probably
[19:00] <IdleOne> upon request
[19:01] <ikonia> not impressed with the replacment
[19:02] <IdleOne> heh, it is a little passive aggressive
[20:23] <Pici> IdleOne: jussi asked ljl to remove it in -ops-monitor.
[20:23] <IdleOne> I know I saw
[20:23] <Pici> er, maybe an extra comma in there somewhere.
[20:24] <IdleOne> and ljl removed it and replaced it
[20:25] <IdleOne> I understand how it could be misunderstood and taken as fact by some.
[20:25] <Pici> I thought it was in poor taste last release too.
[20:26] <IdleOne> perhaps, but I still feel it was "funny"
[20:26] <Pici> IdleOne: you there?
[20:27] <IdleOne> yeah
[20:27] <IdleOne> you don't see me?
[20:27] <Pici> Is what nikon_ in #ubuntu just asked equivalent to sysrq+k ?
[20:27] <Pici> Or am I mistaken?
[20:28] <Pici> I only use it on my laptop and I need to use my fn key which makes me confused as to what the real key combo is.
[20:29] <IdleOne> Pici: it is
[20:30] <IdleOne> seems the ctrl is ignored
[20:30] <IdleOne> and it restarts X
[20:33] <IdleOne> Pici: did you get my response?
[20:34] <Pici> IdleOne: I did, but I was thinking.
[20:35] <IdleOne> the command is not harmful, annoying for sure
[20:35] <ikonia> which command ?
[20:35] <IdleOne> ctrl-alt-prntsc-k
[20:36] <ikonia> sysrq, that will interupt your machine
[20:36] <IdleOne> it ignores the ctrl and issue alt-sysrq-k
[20:36] <ikonia> so issuing a sysrq will hang a system
[20:37] <IdleOne> I suppose you would lose any data not saved
[20:37] <ikonia> plus interupt a service
[20:37] <Pici> ctrl-alt-printscreen-k = sysrq-k then?
[20:37] <IdleOne> that too
[20:37] <IdleOne> yes Pici it does
[20:38] <ikonia> which if it's in a remote location, such as a data centre, means remote hands
[20:38] <IdleOne> or it is = I mean
[20:38] <IdleOne> ikonia: when you put it that way. the command is harmful.
[20:39] <ikonia> it's a great tool, but I often find people who are asking for it shouldn't be using it
[20:40] <IdleOne> the thing is that the way he posed his question, made it seem like it would bring up a window to save a screenshot
[20:40] <ikonia> that's naughty, as thats plain miss-leading
[20:40] <IdleOne> yup
 can anyone tell me what their dialog box on print screen says when you open up the multiple desktop printscreen (ctrl+alt+PrtSc+k)?
[20:41] <ikonia> nikon is known issue user
[20:41] <ikonia> (didn't know it was him)
[20:42] <Pici> ikonia: Has he been banned/kicked before?
[20:42] <Pici> I'm being lazy and not checking the bt
[20:42] <ikonia> not %100 certain, not checked
[20:42] <ikonia> I'd put money on at least once
[20:43] <Pici> I've asked him to join here and set a forward.
[20:43] <nikon_> hello
[20:44] <IdleOne> ikonia Pici 28752
[20:44] <IdleOne> err 27852 that is
[20:44] <Pici> nikon_: I'm not sure what the best way to say this is, so I'll just say it.
[20:44] <nikon_> sure ok
[20:44] <Pici> nikon_: The command that you were asking about is malicious.
[20:45] <nikon_> malicious?
[20:45] <Pici> I don't know if you're doing it on purpose or not, but asking other people to do that particular key combination is potentially 'dangerous'
[20:47] <nikon_> sorry. nothing malicious happens here tho, im just having a problem with the program
[20:48] <Pici> ctrl-alt-printscreen could potentially trigger sysrq. And sysrq-k will kill all your active processes.
[20:48] <nikon_> whaat
[20:48] <nikon_> shit man
[20:49] <nikon_> sorry i didnt mean to do that
[20:49] <nikon_> man im way off today. i thought i was going to get ops for helping people or smth when you invited me
[20:50] <Pici> Sorry.
[20:51] <nikon_> i informed #ubuntu about my mistake
[20:51] <Pici> nikon_: Thank you.
[20:51] <nikon_> thanks again i don't want to get anyone angry :S
[20:53] <knome> err
[20:54] <marienz> that rang a teensy bit hollow after grepping my logs a little
[20:54] <marienz> if you grep your logs for his current host you'll find "zedkappa" quitting a short while ago
[20:55] <marienz> if you then grep your #ubuntu logs for that nick you'll find him connecting from the same isp (dynamic ip, presumably) and mentioning the terms "dcc" and "send"
[20:55] <ikonia> 22:05 -!- nikon_ is now known as zedkappa
[20:56] <Pici> Well, I'm feeling nice today, so I'm not going to ban him again.  we have enough bans on the channel as it is.
[20:56] <marienz> see 2010-09-09 and 2010-09-20
[20:56] <Pici> And we're going to need room for 10.10
[20:56]  * marienz nods
[20:56] <Tm_T> Pici: like to make more room?
[20:57] <IdleOne> I vote for clearing the ban list
[20:57] <IdleOne> :)
[20:57] <IdleOne> just let everybody back in and lets hug it out
[20:57] <Pici> We were discussing something like that earlier today 'elsewhere';
[20:58] <Tm_T> there's IIRC two bans set by me, both can be cleared
[20:59] <Tm_T> I would rather not attempt to do it with this onscreen keyboard and 5 px font
[21:03] <Gary> I'm just looking at doing a /msg chanserv clear #ubuntu-uk bans, all seem oldish, thought it was relevant
[21:03]  * Pici sighs
[21:04] <ikonia> I'd be pretty dissapointed if we totally cleared #ubuntu's bans are there are some long term issue users on it, a big good house keep wouldn't go amiss though
[21:05] <Pici> At one point we discussed removing all bans that didn't have a comment on the bantracker.
[21:06] <ikonia> I think thats been mentioned before
[21:06] <Pici> Also, I'm going home.  I have Lauterino in pm, he seems to think that he can say anything in #ubuntu as long as hes nice.
[21:08] <Pici> Feels like hes trolling me.
[21:08] <ikonia> I think I've seen him before
[21:08] <ikonia> that "I've been coding" and "you don't like coders" comment is osmething someone said to me recently
[21:08] <Pici> Sometimes I think I'm too calm when I talk to these people.
[21:08] <ikonia> bin him - he can accept the rules or not
[21:09] <Pici> I muted him for a bit.
[21:45] <Seeker`> Gary: I wouldn't clear the bans in -uk
[21:46] <Gary> they just seem rather old to me Seeker`
[21:46] <Seeker`> it takes a lot to get banned from -uk though, and most of the bans there are a fairly good coverage of persistent trolls
[21:50] <jpds> Seeker`: They haven't gotten me yet.
[21:52] <Seeker`> jpds: it can be arranged
[22:27] <IdleOne> who -q lauretino?
[22:27] <IdleOne> err Lauterino
[22:30] <IdleOne> ah PC did
[22:40] <niko> 2010/10/05 23:38:17 [#ubuntu] +q *!*@ip-255-198-241-92.dialup.ice.net by IdleOne
[22:40] <Seeker`> IdleOne: ?
[22:40] <niko> 2010/10/05 23:39:51 [#ubuntu] +b *!*@ip-255-198-241-92.dialup.ice.net by IdleOne
[22:40] <niko> guess there is one useless
[22:40] <IdleOne> yup the +q
[22:40] <IdleOne> will remove it now
[22:41] <Seeker`> IdleOne: what prompted the ban?
[22:41] <IdleOne> I asked in nicely in PM to follow the rules
[22:41] <IdleOne> he responded with
[22:41] <IdleOne> IdleOne> You have been explained the rules about being on topic in #ubuntu
 follow them please
 No, dont care, and be so evil
[22:42] <IdleOne> still rambling in PM