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Sarvatt7.9 might be releasing now00:02
Sarvattoh yeah RAOF, no 3D on evergreen even though we have 7.9, it needs the updated ddx for sure00:02
RAOFDoes that inconvenience you a lot?00:04
RAOFI wonder if that performance problem in 6.14 I saw reported on IRC got (a) filed or (b) resolved?00:04
Sarvattnot at all, I wasn't sure and I think you weren't sure if we got it so was letting you know :)00:04
RAOFOk.  Maybe I should get an evergreen; my poor geforce 7600go struggles mightily with Civ V :)00:06
Sarvattsomeone linked this in #radeon earlier and its a really nice fast openarena benchmark run - http://hifi.iki.fi/oa_benchmark.tar.gz00:32
Sarvattwas getting sick of using phoronix test suite and its taking 45 minutes per test :)00:33
Sarvattok here goes, note I only have 1366x768 available on my tv :)00:46
Sarvattdefault options are mostly low-medium, wonder if it was autodetected00:47
Sarvattoops, wrong window :)00:49
Sarvattdang RAOF, now you got me hooked on civ 5..01:34
RAOFDon't worry - the archive is almost locked down :)01:35
Sarvattdemo over, boo!02:32
* Sarvatt buys02:32
SarvattRAOF: uhoh, I hope what that test case was made for did not regress *again*03:20
RAOFI haven't changed my mesa.  I think?03:20
RAOFUm...03:20
Sarvatt... white screen03:20
* RAOF checks his notes.03:20
* Sarvatt hopes he has a non archive package somewhere03:21
RAOFNo, white screen isn't what that testcase tests.03:21
RAOFIt tests the “No clutter for you!  Bad GLX drawable!” problem.03:21
SarvattCLUTTER_VBLANK=none required..03:22
RAOFWhere?03:22
RAOFWhat mesa?03:22
Sarvatt94503:22
Sarvatthopefully its just something local screwing it up03:22
Sarvatt 7.9~git20100924-0ubuntu203:22
RAOFGM45 is very happily running unity here.03:22
RAOFOn, indeed, that mesa.03:22
RAOFlibcluter-1.0-0 1.2.12-0ubuntu13?03:23
Sarvattyep03:23
RAOFArse.03:23
Sarvattnow it's starting up black instead of white03:23
RAOFYeah.  That's the work around for the big white flash on startup being increadibly annoying.03:24
Sarvattnow it worked03:24
Sarvattwhat is this crap03:24
RAOFWhat changed?03:24
Sarvattnothing03:24
SarvattI ran it 6 times in a row03:24
SarvattCLUTTER_VBLANK=none unity works 100%, it didn't use to pass CLUTTER_VBLANK when launching it with unity03:27
* Sarvatt wonders what the heck changed post RC..03:27
RAOFWell, we uploaded a new mesa.03:27
RAOF0ubuntu203:27
RAOFAre you running unity from gdm, or from within a session?03:28
SarvattI was using 0ubuntu2 before it was uploaded to confirm it fixed things03:28
Sarvattinside a session03:28
Sarvattdesktop one, trying unity and unity -p03:28
* RAOF tries to reproduce there.03:28
bjsnideris unity built on webkit, like gnome-shell?03:29
RAOFNo, and gnome-shell isn't built on webkit.03:30
RAOF(It's built on gjs, the gobject-javascript bindings which (ab)use firefox's JS engine)03:31
bjsnidergnome-shell's appearance properties is a css file03:31
bjsniderthere must be a layout engine at work03:31
bjsnideri assumed it was webkit03:31
* Sarvatt squints at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/56915042/unity_0.2.46-0ubuntu3_0.2.46-0ubuntu4.diff.gz03:31
RAOFSarvatt: Yeah, I can reproduce this in a desktop session with clutter -p03:32
RAOFI mean, um, unity -p03:32
Sarvatthopefully launching it with mutter directly wont be broken like this, busy looking at what might have broken it because we absolutely made sure this was fixed for RC03:34
Sarvattyeah mutter is fine03:34
Sarvattmaybe its just busted with compiz03:35
RAOFI'm using metacity03:35
Sarvattmutter --replace --mutter-plugins=libunity-mutter and the session works fine here so i'll just chalk it up to more busted unity fun and not freak out again. it still doesn't work without GL_ARB_non_power_of_two (aka ATI) so this is minor :)03:39
RAOFI suspect that unity when run as a window might be selecting the wrong drawable to listen to swap_complete on?  Maybe?03:43
RAOFbjsnider: gnome-shell just uses a css-parsing library, IIRC, it doesn't embed an html renderer.  Same as the css-based gtk theme engine.03:45
bjsnideri see03:58
cwillu_at_workhas anything been pushed out to 8.04 intel recently?05:24
cwillu_at_worka friend of mine lost his x after a normal apt-get upgrade with no special repositories enabled, and is kinda frustrated with the whole concept right now05:25
cwillu_at_work(intel, netbook interface)05:25
cwillu_at_worker, 10.04 I mean05:25
Sarvattnope05:33
RAOFMost recent thing which could possibly have triggered it is the gdm update on 2010/09/2705:34
RAOFNext back would be linux-2.6.32-25.44 on 2010/09/1805:34
* cwillu_at_work checks the changelog05:35
Sarvatthttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/56057053/gdm_2.30.2.is.2.30.0-0ubuntu3_2.30.2.is.2.30.0-0ubuntu4.diff.gz05:36
Sarvatttry reverting that in /etc/init/gdm.conf05:36
RAOFThat's a pretty long shot.05:37
RAOFBut, hey!  Why not try.05:37
Sarvattthats a hell of a kernel update changelog05:39
Sarvatthttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lucid-changes/2010-September/011691.html05:39
RAOFYeah.05:39
RAOFA bunch of i915 changes there.05:39
RAOFIt's the more likely culprit.05:39
cwillu_at_workgot some more logs from him; I'm no longer sure that it's an x crash05:41
cwillu_at_workcould a malformed .profile cause the session to die?05:41
RAOFI don't know.05:42
cwillu_at_workokay, I don't think this is an x problem;  he commented out the sketchy thing in .profile, and although it's still not logging in, it's also not immediately returning to the login screen05:43
cwillu_at_workseems more likely that he got hit by an update to dash that tightened up validation or some such05:45
cwillu_at_workhe's got a bunch of things being complained about now05:46
cwillu_at_workokay, .profile errors _will_ cause an xsession to break05:48
cwillu_at_workwhich probably shouldn't be the case, but whatever05:49
cwillu_at_worksorry to make you guys dig through changesets :(05:49
cwillu_at_workAngryParsley> so I guess the problem was that I copied my .profile over, but never restarted my machine for weeks afterwards05:52
cwillu_at_workyay for a user who admits fault :p05:52
RAOF:)05:55
JanCeven wrong permissions on some files could cause troubles with Xorg 05:55
JanCor with the session at least05:56
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tseliotmvo: did you receive the message that I wrote yesterday on IRC?11:43
mvotseliot: hello - I did. update-manager will not explicitely remove nvidia, only if it e.g. conflicts with xserver-xorg-core. so if 173 works u-m should be happy11:51
tseliotmvo: perfect, thanks11:55
penguin42isn't sure what to do with bugs 651994 and 65451513:17
ubot4Launchpad bug 651994 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Dual-monitor possible with top-bottom screen configuration only (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65199413:17
ubot4Launchpad bug 654515 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Dual-head setup only possible with stacked screen combination (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65451513:17
penguin42they're over 2k horizontal, but both claiming they had working configs on Lucid13:17
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Duke`latest xserver-xorg-video-intel (20101004) is broken17:45
Duke`on lucid17:46
Duke`X segfaults17:46
Sarvattgot a log? someone else said it was broken on maverick too, i haven't tested it yet17:47
Sarvatthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/506247/17:48
Duke`same log for me17:49
Duke`after "[    16.553] (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 338 x 211", it breaks17:49
Sarvattwhat gpu?17:50
Duke`btw, the given screen physical size is strange (338 x 211)17:50
Duke`i94517:50
Duke`http://paste.ubuntu.com/506627/17:51
Sarvattany chance you could try earlier x-x-v-intel's to narrow down where it broke?17:51
Duke`the 20101002 is ok17:51
Duke`the 20101004 is ko17:51
Duke`I fail at driver building from git18:04
Duke`at autogen.sh stage :-(18:04
Duke`./configure: line 11185: syntax error near unexpected token `RANDR,'18:04
Duke`./configure: line 11185: `XORG_DRIVER_CHECK_EXT(RANDR, randrproto)'18:04
SarvattDuke`: install xserver-xorg-dev and xutils-dev?18:05
Duke`and this f****** laptop has serious hardware bugs (it just lost power link, now on battery only until I reboot -___-) 18:06
Duke`better with xserver-xorg-dev18:07
Duke`but now :18:07
Duke`Requested 'libdrm >= 2.4.22' but version of libdrm is 2.4.2018:07
Duke`;_;18:07
Sarvattnot building against xorg-edgers?18:08
Duke`I use xorg-edgers packages18:08
Duke`but for lucid18:08
Duke`maybe there isn't the latest libdrm18:08
Sarvattlibdrm 2.4.22 is in edgers/lucid18:08
Sarvattintel wouldn't build otherwise18:09
Sarvattweird18:09
Duke`yeah18:09
Sarvattwhats it say when you sudo apt-get install libdrm-dev?18:10
Sarvattmaybe held back for some reason18:10
Duke`it says it's up to date18:11
Duke`I see the deb packages in pool but not in list18:11
Sarvattoh Duke`18:11
Sarvattyou got caught in the accidental libdrm epoch bump18:11
Sarvatti bet18:11
Duke`;_;18:11
Sarvattthere's a note on the edgers page about it, the epoch was bumped for a few days by accident  :(18:12
Duke`hu ho18:12
Duke`how can I fix that?18:12
Sarvattlooks like i deleted the note because it was like 3 months ago18:12
Sarvattsudo apt-get install libdrm2/maverick libdrm-dev/maverick libdrm-radeon1/maverick libdrm-nouveau1/maverick libdrm-intel1/maverick libkms1/maverick etc18:13
Sarvatterr lucid instead of maverick18:13
Sarvattsorry about that man18:13
Duke`np18:14
Sarvattleaving the bumped epoch would have been more of a PITA in the long run18:14
Sarvattit screwed up all the symbols and stuff18:14
Duke`how can I list all packages installed from xorg-edgers?18:14
Sarvatthmm maybe I should add that feature to ppa-purge18:14
Sarvattoh you can look in software center18:15
Sarvattkey software-center doesn't help much, just shows stuff in there not available in the archive :)18:17
Sarvattoh nevermind I dont even have xorg-edgers enabled, its just showing me stuff I have installed from here still18:18
Sarvattrenderbench and intel-gpu-tools18:18
SarvattDuke`: you can just ppa-purge xorg-edgers and reactivate it too, easier :)18:20
penguin42Sarvatt: So I now have two bugs both about >2048 wide displays that worked on Lucid18:20
penguin42possibly 318:20
Sarvatti dont have any more insight into them18:21
penguin42any idea what to do with them?18:21
Duke`ppa-purge? how does it works?18:21
SarvattDuke`: it goes over the list of all packages in the PPA, compares it to what you have installed, deactivates the PPA and for each one adds it to a list to sudo apt-get install package1/dist package2/dist so it downgrades them to the archive ones18:22
Duke`Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: xorg-edgers ppa18:23
Duke`oh noes :(18:23
SarvattDuke`: <danvet> Sarvatt, latest xf86-video-intel looks indeed broken18:25
Sarvatt<danvet> I'll take a stab at it, otherwise just prod ickel ;)18:25
Duke`hopefully maverick will be released in a week, so I'll can upgrade and clean a bit my packages ;p18:26
Duke`I upgraded libdrm & libkms manually (download and install)18:29
Duke`ok, I could compile it18:34
Duke`let's restart18:34
albert23penguin42: sounds like it might be bug 619663 (fixed with libdrm commit from freedesktop bug 28515)18:37
ubot4Launchpad bug 619663 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "[maverick] Non-mirrored dual-screen gives narrow display on secondary monitor (affects: 15) (dups: 2) (heat: 88)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61966318:37
ubot4Freedesktop bug 28515 in DRM/Intel "[i915] Failed to allocate framebuffer when exceed 2048 width" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2851518:37
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Duke`7c7294ec00d6c3a454a17a1b9983d14d0655162c is the first bad commit18:51
Duke`"shadow+dri2: Allow dri2 to be independently enabled with shadow"18:51
Duke`http://paste.ubuntu.com/506664/18:51
penguin42albert23: Do you think that is good enough for me to merge the others into it?18:58
SarvattDuke`: yeah none of the other commits touch 945/gm45 thats broken19:01
SarvattOption "Shadow" "True" probably works if you need it working now19:05
albert23penguin42: I'm not sure. The others don't seem to have logs from running with dual monitors19:05
penguin42albert23: If they did what would you be looking for in it?19:06
albert23penguin42: (EE) intel(0): Failed to allocate framebuffer. 19:08
penguin42albert23: OK, I'll ask the victims to give the logs19:09
Duke`Sarvatt: it seems to be a big commit that may break pretty bad ^^19:09
penguin42albert23: And if it has that then it's OK to dupe ?19:12
albert23penguin42: in my opinion, yes19:12
penguin42ok, will do - I spotted another one19:12
Sarvattoh how I wish we released at the normal time and could have pulled in all the Q3 releases, quite a few x-x-v-intel and libdrm fixes19:13
jcristauSarvatt: but 101010 was *so* important!19:14
SarvattI think the schedule is permanently moving back a few weeks now so it'll be tight every time from now on too19:16
SarvattRAOF: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/65129419:53
ubot4Launchpad bug 651294 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "X crash on KDM logout (still - yes, really) (affects: 3) (heat: 14)" [High,Confirmed]19:53
jcristauSarvatt: it seems hard to make the kdm people understand that relying on regen is not a winning plan20:24
penguin42So what do you do for someone whose hardware is giving bogus resolutions about the panel in their laptop?22:13
RAOFSarvatt: Oh, *BAH*. That's no fun.22:56
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