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csgeekhonk04:26
beunohiya csgeek04:26
csgeekI'm trying to get ubuntuone client compiled from source, and its giving some odd issues.04:26
csgeekhi bueno04:26
csgeeks/bueno/beuno/04:26
csgeekhttp://pastie.org/1199957  for anyone who has any ideas04:27
beunocsgeek, I have no idea what it could be04:28
beunocan I suggest emailing the list so the desktop folks can look at it tomorrow?04:28
csgeeksure.. if you can point me to the mailing list.. I'll drop a more detailed email04:31
beunocsgeek, https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-users04:32
* ajmitch should probably join that as well04:33
csgeekhmm.. says I have to be a team member to subscribe04:33
beunocsgeek, sure, just join04:34
csgeekalright. joined up.  Thanks beuno I'll tag up later on.04:34
duanedesignmorning all08:35
rodrigo_ng08:39
mahenhi09:20
duanedesignhello mahen09:37
mahenhello duane09:37
duanedesigngood morning11:34
duanedesignhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ#How%20do%20I%20update%20the%20credit%20card%20on%20my%20account?11:35
duanedesignthis porrtion of the FAQ needs updated or to be removed?11:36
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ryeduanedesign, /me is trying indicator thing - this already shows estimated time for metadata: http://paste.ubuntu.com/506415/12:15
duanedesignnice12:17
ryehttp://ubuntuone.com/p/Igg/12:24
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duanedesignrye: ever seen this pyintify error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/506460/13:22
ryeduanedesign, i remember i was getting one when I moved the folder out of Ubuntu One13:37
duanedesignrye: ahh, thank you13:56
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danyRguys.. gotta say...as of now, the edge website looks.... ACE!14:30
artirhttps://edge.one.ubuntu.com/ just noticed there is an edge version14:32
artir:P14:32
artirbtw, the Ubuntu-pay stuff works great14:32
artirthe U1 logo is still the old one, though14:33
danyRyeah, I noticed that in the web interface. still the old logo14:33
danyRbut the new font is now used everywhere14:33
danyRand the main screenshot in the site use an experimental and old ambiance version14:35
danyRbtw, as I'm here, is there any free music in U1MS?14:44
duanedesigndanyR: yes14:54
duanedesigndanyR: i often use the free mp3s when i need to test the music store14:54
duanedesigndanyR: let me get you the link14:55
danyRI don't seem to able to find any of those, in the U1 EU Store.14:55
danyRisn't it: http://www.7digital.com/free-mp3-downloads ?14:55
duanedesignyep14:56
danyRduanedesign: I can find most of the bands, but I only have the option to purchase14:57
duanedesign:/15:00
danyRduanedesign: for example, I can find the track "murder weapon", by the tricky group. I only have the option to puirchase it by 1,2915:03
duanedesigndanyR: hmm. same here15:12
danyRduanedesign: I'm testing other tracks. the same is happening15:14
duanedesigndanyR: hmm, well i dot get the album for the tricky song15:15
duanedesign'mixed race'15:16
duanedesigni only found the single15:16
duanedesigndanyR: what is another track?15:16
danyRginger by twin sister, duanedesign15:16
danyRduanedesign: album is "Vampires With Dreaming Kids / Color Your Life"15:19
duanedesignyeah i found a couple that were not on there. Finally did find one though15:20
danyRa free one? can you give me info/link?15:21
duanedesignSneaky Thieves - Accident - Sneaky Thieves15:21
duanedesignThe Din15:21
duanedesignsorry lag15:21
duanedesignSneaky Thieves - Accident - The Din15:21
danyRduanedesign: I keep just getting the buy option. This time by .7915:24
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SEJeff_workrodrigo_, ping17:14
jmlI want to work on a desktopcouch project & structure it in such a way that I can have map.js & reduce.js files in my tree, but also be able to do a one-step deploy of those .js files to my couch db17:18
jmlhow can I do this?17:18
james_wjml: couchapp might help17:21
jmllast time I looked into couchapp, it seemed to be this whole big world-encompassing philosophy17:21
jmland I didn't know how to actually use it17:21
james_wthe couchapp tool is a little python script that walks a filesystem tree, puts the files it finds in to a json document, and then pushes that to couchdb17:22
james_wyou could of course write your own script to do that17:22
jmlhmm.17:26
jmljames_w: are you talking about http://couchapp.org/page/index17:26
james_wjml: sort of17:26
james_wthey confusingly gave 3 different things the same name17:27
jmlok.17:27
james_w1. couchapp - the concept of serving the pieces needed for a webapp directly from couchdb17:27
james_w2. couchapp - an implementation of the above which uses html, jquery, evently and some other things17:28
james_w3. couchapp - a command line tool to allow you to edit the design document necessary for 1 on your filesystem and push it in to couchdb17:28
james_whttp://couchapp.org/page/installing17:29
james_wUbuntu packages bought to you by the combination of bzr+recipes+ppas17:29
jmlok. let me try this.17:30
james_wif you have a directory with views/foo/map.js and views/foo/reduce.js and a couple of other files then "couchapp push desktopcouch://mydb" will put those things in to {views: {foo: {map: ..., reduce: ...}}} as required to do view queries against "mydb"17:31
jmlinsufficient PPA17:31
rodrigo_SEJeff_work, pong17:31
james_was I said, the concept is fairly simple, so you may want your own implementation of the above17:31
SEJeff_workrodrigo_, Hey I was just pinging you about the U1 serverside stuff for note editing and potentially sharing some of it with snowy. I've also sent an email17:32
SEJeff_workBut figured if you've got any issues you didn't want saved in the gnome email archives we could discuss them here or via pm17:32
rodrigo_SEJeff_work, oh no, just waiting for re-confirmation/authorization from my bosses17:42
rodrigo_SEJeff_work, will ping you as soon as I've got it17:42
SEJeff_workrodrigo_, Sweet! Do you mind replying to that email as well whenever you've got it (or not)? The hackfest is in a month and we're just trying to work on priorities.17:43
SEJeff_workYour help is much appreciated17:43
rodrigo_SEJeff_work, yes, will reply later17:44
jmljames_w: ahh, now I remember why I couldn't figure this. "[ERROR] couchapp error: You aren't in a couchapp." I'll look through the source figure this out...17:54
james_wjml: couchapp.json perhaps17:54
james_wmaybe _id too17:54
james_wthe latter with just _design/something17:55
james_wthe former with a json dict with name and description keys17:55
jmltrailing whitespace and inconsistent indentation17:56
jmlhow do these guys sleep at night?17:56
jmljames_w: sadly, too many interrupts to get even close to success.18:14
james_winterrupts from elsewhere, or pitfalls with the tool?18:15
jmlelsewhere18:17
james_wok18:17
james_wgive me a shout if you want to look at it again18:17
jmlthat email I sent you today took over one hour of wall time18:17
jmljames_w: thanks.18:18
james_wouch, apologies for that :-)18:18
jmlit's ok. only ten minutes of that was spent on it. the rest was either waiting for something or more interrupts18:18
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Chipaca_hi all20:27
ajmitchhello20:27
Chipaca_rodrigo_: could you ask mandel to get his self in here? :)20:28
Chipaca_dobey: or you plz20:28
Chipaca_ajmitch: hey20:28
Chipaca_I should probably use a different nick20:28
Chipaca_I'm dirtying this one using it on windows :)20:28
dobey15:17 -!- mandel [mandel@canonical-cloaked-BB7C168B.dynamic.jazztel.es] has  quit [Leaving]20:28
Chipaca_curses20:29
ajmitchan impeccable sense of timing20:29
dobeyto be a cheeky employee, though must me be cheekier than thy boss20:30
Chipaca_*n*curses20:31
Chipaca_so here i am, stuck in windows. I don't even know if it's 32 or 64 bits :)20:31
dobeyis it windows 7?20:32
Chipaca_yes20:33
Chipaca_64 bits20:33
Chipaca_found it20:33
Chipaca_also, dell lies :(20:33
dobeyhow so?20:33
Chipaca_but I should've payed more attention :)20:33
dobeypaid20:33
Chipaca_yeah20:33
Chipaca_i *always* get that one wrong20:34
dobeyif it makes you feel any better, you can always pay me more :)20:34
Chipaca_attention?20:35
Chipaca_it's a M620, which is dual-core, and dell had it listed as a quad20:36
dobeyyen20:36
dobeyoh20:36
dobeyand you only just now realized that?20:36
dobeylike, /proc/cpuinfo didn't give you any hints? ;)20:36
Chipaca_I was kinda preoccupied with not having X20:36
dobeyoh20:37
dobeywell, you always have ncurses20:37
Chipaca_nope, no console either20:37
Chipaca_bug in the panel (or the panel driver)20:37
Decusamusing that I am enough of an idiot to pursue use of this tool through lots of killalls, deletions of tokens, etc. etc.20:37
Chipaca_Decus: hi! what's up?20:38
dobeyi'm guessing that rodrigo also won't be back for the day20:38
Chipaca_dobey: yep, but mandel is in sprint mode, so he should be back soon20:38
DecusChipaca_: can never get a machine to smoothly connect to ubuntu one without deleting the token, removing the config file20:38
Decuscan never get a directory to sync reliably without forcing it manually20:39
Chipaca_Decus: that's weird, and wrong. What are you running?20:39
Decusubuntu 10.04, two work machines, three home machines20:39
Decusall updated regularly20:39
dobeyChipaca_: maybe you should poke him on twitter? he twitted 8 min ago :)20:39
Decusall radically different hardware, and three of those installed recently20:40
DecusI just seem to be really, really unlucky with this tool?20:40
DecusI hope?20:40
Decusanother thing that would be cool ( because I started out intending to propose its use for the company I was working for ) would be20:41
Decusthe ability to download the files as an archive through the web interface in an emergency?20:41
DecusApologies if that already exists and I haven't seen it?20:42
Decus( I'm not just here to moan - it occurs to me there might be a need for people to have a crack at it with some fresh installs and see if they get problems.20:43
Decus)20:44
dobeythe feature request exists, but not the functionality yet20:44
Decusdobey: fair enough20:44
Chipaca_Decus: we've fixed a *lot* of issues this last cycle, but it does also sound like you might be hitting them all :)20:45
Decusheh20:45
Decusthat would seem entirely possible at the moment20:45
Chipaca_Decus: when and if you upgrade to maverick, I'd love to know if your issues fix themselves20:46
Chipaca_or rather, I'd like to know if they *don't*20:47
DecusI almost certainly will - not so sure about the missus, what with that, and that gwibber thing, which basically just doesn't work, and the notifications which disappear when you try to click them, and don't disappear on click, and don't bring the relevant window into focus20:47
DecusI'll have a hard time keeping her off windows, heh20:47
Decusanyway, not your problem20:47
Chipaca_gwibber also has fixed that issue of it chomping up your machine for parts20:48
DecusI will use something else involving, i dunno, rsync or svn or something, and consider giving it another go when I hit maverick20:48
Chipaca_notifications that you can't interact with, however, are a feature and here to stay :)20:48
danyRChipaca_: a question: when is the Ubuntu One Control Panel supposed to land?20:49
Decusthanks for the information20:49
Chipaca_danyR: Ñoño Ñandú20:49
Chipaca_danyR: or Natty if the stars line up20:50
DecusChipaca_: heh, I can assure you I will be armlocked by the missus and forced to patch some less annoying behaviour into the notifications20:50
Decusif she stays20:50
Decusanyway, cheers20:50
danyRChipaca_: hm, great to hear that! oh and just a curiosity: today I decided to try UbuntuOne in real-life, and will use it only for a while. It happened to be the day when Dropbox went down for the first time. :D20:51
ajmitchhow many of the changes that are in maverick will make their way back to lucid?20:51
Chipaca_ajmitch: 23 of them20:51
ajmitchChipaca_: wonderful20:51
ajmitchChipaca_: I hope they're not all spelling changes :)20:52
Chipaca_ajmitch: "as many as we can manage" might be a more honest answer20:52
dobeywhat is an ubuntu one control panel?20:52
Chipaca_dobey: the rework of u1-prefs20:52
Chipaca_dobey: scheduled for natty20:52
Chipaca_dobey: but no promises :)20:52
ajmitchChipaca_: I just know of a number of people who will stick with the LTS20:52
Chipaca_ajmitch: yes20:52
danyRdobey: I've here the link for the spec: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/Doc?docid=0AU5sFuLRpCpBZGZra2pqY2pfODY2Z3RnbTl2Z3E&hl=en_GB20:52
Decushrm, dropbox. Is that open source, danyR?20:53
Chipaca_ajmitch: we expect to do it for the next point release20:53
ajmitchwe'll quote you on that :)20:53
ajmitchah nice20:53
Chipaca_Decus: nope, but it does work on linux and windows20:53
Chipaca_Decus: and mac20:53
danyRDecus: sync daemon is closed source. but nautilus-plugin is open-source20:53
dobeyugh not that thing20:53
Chipaca_Decus: on the other hand, we're testing a beta of our windows port right now20:53
Chipaca_danyR: ah! no, that's probably not going to be it. Not that much. Maybe a little.20:54
Chipaca_dobey: yeah, that thing. We're keeping the name, and going through the spec with a fine comb20:54
danyRwasn't a big u1 announcement scheudled for today?20:55
* dobey prefers a Machete20:55
DecusI'm the kind of pillock who will use the open source version if at all possible20:55
Decuswould it be in backports?20:55
Chipaca_dobey: a machete is a dense type of fine comb20:55
Decusu1, not dropbox20:55
Chipaca_Decus: not yet, because additional work is needed to get it working on lucid20:56
dobeyi'm lost now with all the questions about backports and whatnot20:56
Chipaca_Decus: if you're brave, you might try doing it yourself20:56
dobeybackport what to lucid?20:57
Chipaca_Decus: you can pull ubuntu_sso trunk and ubuntuone-client trunk, and things should work :)20:57
Chipaca_dobey: u120:57
Chipaca_dobey: u1 with all the fixes in m20:57
ajmitchthough building the maverick packages on lucid may be possible20:57
* ajmitch should try20:58
Decuswell let's give that a go then20:58
* Decus fetches a cup of tea20:58
dobeyChipaca_: it's already done20:58
ajmitchPPA?20:58
dobeywell mostly done20:58
dobeywe've been building 'dailies' of most everything in u1 for a while now, on maverick and lucid both20:59
Chipaca_dobey: right, *mostly*. Advantage of pulling yourself is you can try with an isolated user before putting all your users through the pain, if there is any20:59
Chipaca_OTOH if you have a lucid vm or spare computer, you can try the ppa with minimum pain20:59
Decuswoah hang on there20:59
Decusdobey: I can pull the code down and build it and expect it to work then, or is there a ppa?20:59
dobeythere's the nightlies PPA21:00
dobeyand i guess we should put out the latest releases in the stable ppa next week after the maverick release21:00
dobeythe nightlies PPA isn't exactly nightlies though, and it's pretty much guaranteed that something WILL break at some point, in it21:02
dobeybut if you want to try it, you are welcome to21:02
danyRwhoa, I'm using the nightlies PPA, wasn't aware of all breakage risks :-)21:03
Chipaca_danyR: didn't the "nightlies" give you a hint?21:04
Chipaca_if we called it "wheneverlies" people would use it *more*, because it's cuter21:04
dobeyChipaca_: let's call it 'dasterdlies'21:05
danyRChipaca_: I mean, I've some dozens of PPA and most of them say daily. 2 or 3 say stable.21:05
Chipaca_danyR: and you do this expecting them not to break?21:05
danyRso I thought nightlies would be just because of timezone difference :P21:05
dobeyto be fair, i have made our nightlies be much more reliable21:06
Chipaca_yeah, I'd use them myself21:06
Chipaca_but I'd still warn people :)21:06
dobeydanyR: we actually build new versions in our 'nightlies' PPA whenever new branches land, not every day at 00:0021:06
dobeywell, for most everything in it, anyway21:07
danyR I kind noticed it. lots of updates today :D21:07
dobeynot really?21:07
Chipaca_dobey: depends when he updated last :)21:08
danyRChipaca_: yes, that's relative.21:08
danyRwell, gotta go. thanks for the answers :)21:09
dobeyChipaca_: well ubuntu-sso-client and ubuntuone-client are the only two things that have really had any updates in the last couple of weeks21:09
danyRbye21:10
dobeyand there was a bug in tarmac i just finally got fixed today, that was causing some of them to not get build :)21:10
Chipaca_dobey: and desktopcouch i hope21:10
dobeylast build of desktopcouch in nightlies was oct 121:10
Decushrm, pubkey weirdness21:10
Decusnever mind.21:10
dobeyand was about to get couchdb-glib set up in there, but need to poke rodrigo21:11
* ajmitch thought ubuntuone-storage-protocol had been changed recently, but that was 4 weeks ago21:12
dobeysept 2321:12
dobey2 weeks anyway :)21:12
ajmitchright, I was looking at package branches21:12
ajmitchwhich may not always reflect reality21:13
Decusright. This may or may not be encouraging21:14
dobey?21:15
Chipaca_ok, I've had it with this os21:21
Chipaca_bbiab21:21
ajmitchbut it's popular, it must be good!21:21
Chipaca_ajmitch: so is death21:21
dobeyyour decomposing body emits less greenhouse gasses than your hybrid car!21:22
Decushrm, maybe I just need to share everything with myself as a workaround for now21:24
DecusI'm clearly failing to understand some massively obvious and fundamental aspect of how this is all supposed to work21:25
Decus...or not. There we go, fingers crossed it's working21:27
Decus\o/21:27
ajmitchit goes?21:28
dobeyi suppose i should rejoice for you, but i have no idea what you're rejoicing about or not, exactly :)21:28
Decuswell, at this point, I am rejoicing because by and large ubuntu one is doing the sorts of things I want it to21:29
ajmitchthat's a good first step :)21:30
Decusby which I mean it offered to connect the machine, and having done that, it synced my files and directories21:30
Decuswhich is sort of all I was after21:30
dobeygood deal then21:30
Decusyep, fantastic, thank you all very much21:30
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Decusthe world doesn't seem to have exploded horribly using the stuff from the ppa, it's pulled what you've got packaged as21:32
dobeyyeah, everything there should be working ok21:34
dobeybut it is possible that from time to time something in it might break21:34
Decusyeah, completely to be expected21:35
dobeyand there will likely start being lots of changes again soon, so nightlies will start getting a lot more builds, and big changes21:35
Decusthis is what seems to be working: http://pastebin.com/JX8WHtXP21:35
dobeywhich means stuff might start breaking soon after UDS :)21:35
DecusI know, it's rubbish that I gave theexact versions in such a lazy way, but hey, it's late :)21:35
dobeyeh, i can see what the versions are anyway :)21:36
ajmitchis there no PPA for the 1.4.x branch?21:36
ajmitchas opposed to trunk, I mean21:36
* ajmitch hasn't looked for one, fwiw :)21:36
dobeyajmitch: there is the stable ppa, and i think next weekish i'll build the latest stable releases of everything into it21:37
ajmitchok21:37
dobeyppa:ubuntuone/stable if you want to add it21:37
ajmitchI'm just wondering if it's worth me tracking the maverick package branches still for debian21:37
dobeyin what way? to package in sid?21:38
ajmitchyeah21:38
ajmitchwell, experimental for awhile21:38
Decuswell, what's been *packaged* as ubuntu-sso-client=1.1.0+r640~lucid1, ubuntuone-client=1.4.99+r730~lucid1, libsyncdaemon-1.0-1=1.4.99+r730~lucid1, python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol=1.4.0+r121~lucid1 and ubuntuone-client-gnome=1.4.99+r730~lucid121:39
ajmitchthough I'd like to have the stable paackages in sid & the crack of the day in experimental21:39
dobeyi'd say you should probably track lp:ubuntu/$whatever for that21:39
Decus( since there is the vague possibility another lucid user might find them useful after stuff breaks )21:39
ajmitchright, that's what I'm doing, then I've got the local branches for changelog modifications, any minor changes, etc21:40
* ajmitch does like having bzr-buildpackage use pbuilder now for this 21:40
dobeyand i guess the narwhal series will show up soon21:40
ajmitchwheezy won't be releasing for awhile, but if the CUT project takes off then a few debian users might come along21:42
dobeyhaha21:44
dobeymy firs thought when reading that was sadly "debian is naming releases after rappers now?"21:44
ajmitchno, they're trying to compete with ubuntu on how stupid a release name can sound21:44
dobeysurprised they haven't switch to harry potter characters, instead of toy story21:45
dzup2hello, am new in ubuntuone, i did signin to the services and in the wiki in how to install the service said i have to add my machine to the service, but i dont see that option, perhaps {cuz am using the free 2g account?21:45
dobeydzup2: is there perhaps a new tab in your Firefox window that you didn't see?21:46
dzup2i did erase my cookies and restart my firefox,21:46
dzup2no i dont see anything, letme check again21:47
dobeyand you ran System->Preferences->Ubuntu One from the menus?21:47
dobeyand i presume you are on 10.04 (lucid)?21:48
dzup2yes i am21:49
dzup2i got that, so i click in accounts, take me to my browser then i singin then the welcome screen but i dont see the [add this computer" deal21:50
dzup2*signin21:51
dobeythat's not how you get to it21:51
dzup2then?21:51
dobeyit should open a web page automatically when you start ubuntuone-preferences if you haven't already linked your computer to your account21:52
dobeyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ#How%20do%20I%20add%20my%20computer?21:52
dobeydzup2: ^^ see that FAQ21:52
dzup2dobey:  now works, thanks21:54
dobeysure21:58

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