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| rrrachel | what i can't figure out... is how to get the titlebar stuff (ie: close/minimize/maximize if window maximized; a word of the window title if not maximized - the bit between the go-home button and the application menu in full netbook interface) to work in an otherwise *desktop* environment | 13:25 |
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| rrrachel | it doesn't seem to come from any applet or indicator that i can find; is it actually a part of mutter or unity? | 13:26 |
| rrrachel | (the specific package unity, with the launcher-on-left etc.) | 13:26 |
| rrrachel | (yes, my other computer is a mac; and with application menu getting good enough to use most of the time, and awn at the bottom, the desktop's almost getting civilised... :-D | 13:27 |
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| rrrachel | i tried instead to just run the netbook/unity interface but with maximus set to not automatically maximize everything (although it still did some things); but had various problems with that, not least i actualy didn't want the launcher bar on the left | 13:28 |
| rrrachel | and there was no way to remove it | 13:29 |
| Cimi | rrrachel: sorry, which kind of desktop you would kike to have? | 13:47 |
| Cimi | *like | 13:47 |
| rrrachel | asking seriously or a bit pissed because i'm trying to use *part* of unity rather than all of it? :-) I want (already have) close to a standard gnome desktop with desktop effects (ie: compiz), awn, but i want application menu in the top-left, which i can already have, and the titlebar stuff described above (sorry don't know if it has a proper name) in that setting, rather than having to get the whole of unity/netbook | 13:50 |
| rrrachel | environment just for that | 13:50 |
| rrrachel | as i said, my other computer is (computers are) a mac and while i'm not trying to make it look so much like a mac as to fool anyone, it would be nice to have my muscle-memory habits catered for :-) | 13:51 |
| rrrachel | as i said: the bit on the maverick netbook screen between the go-home button and the appmenu - just that bit - on my full desktop panel please :-) but it doesn't seem to actually come from an applet or indicator as far as i can tell | 13:54 |
| Cimi | it may be part of unity and not detachable | 13:55 |
| rrrachel | that's what i was trying to confirm (or hoping vagualy to de-confirm :-) | 13:56 |
| rrrachel | vaguely even | 13:56 |
| rrrachel | i'm not sure it is though, as when i tried to just run unity itself in the gnome desktop iirc i got the left hand launcher bar thing, but not that thing in the titlebar | 13:58 |
| vish | rrrachel¦ its appmenu, and you can use it in regular desktop | 13:58 |
| rrrachel | vish, appmenu as far as i could see just provides the actual application/active-window menu in an applet in the panel, which is fine (better when it's finished, but on its way there) but not the other thing | 13:59 |
| rrrachel | the close/minimize/maximize when window maximized, and app name when not | 13:59 |
| vish | rrrachel¦ ah, thats unity.. ;) | 13:59 |
| rrrachel | unless there's some sooper sekrit way of enabling it :-) | 13:59 |
| rrrachel | and unity (which i've just started now to check) in standard desktop just gives the left-hand launcher, which i *dont* want (prefer awn in this setting) | 14:00 |
| rrrachel | not the titlebar stuff. (does it actually have a name btw? the gui element i'm talking about?) | 14:00 |
| rrrachel | oh wait! got it! if unity *and* appmenu enabled; but they keep crashing out with "The panel encountered a problem" errors | 14:04 |
| rrrachel | ie: if i have unity running *and* appmenu, the other top-left panel stuff appears - but seems unstable and crashes almost immediately | 14:05 |
| rrrachel | so closest yet, but still stuck with the launcher down the side i don't want... | 14:06 |
| rrrachel | appmenu itself seems stable if unity isn't running | 14:06 |
| rrrachel | unity doesn't like compiz? | 14:06 |
| vish | rrrachel¦ unity runs on mutter. | 14:07 |
| vish | err, unity is mutter | 14:08 |
| rrrachel | i thought mutter was a window manager; unity a thing that runs in it - and it would appear only in it... hmm | 14:08 |
| rrrachel | actually there may be two panels going on here... that would be confusing | 14:08 |
| rrrachel | unity seems to be providing its own top panel, and oddly the appmenu in there isn't working as well as the one i added to the gnome panel | 14:11 |
| rrrachel | (damn, have to do some salaried work for a bit; better make my desktop sane again... :-} | 14:11 |
| rrrachel | upshot seems to be the little applet i want is inseparable from the whole strip down the side and a window manager i don't want | 14:13 |
| rrrachel | i guess it's frustrating because it's *nearly* there, it's just this one little thing | 14:17 |
| rrrachel | it's never been so nearly there before :-) | 14:17 |
| rrrachel | need to log out... | 14:37 |
| rrrachel | gnome-globalmenu does it, after logout/login :-) | 14:39 |
| rrrachel | i think last time i looked at that it needed you to patch gtk and didn't work anyway... | 14:39 |
| jcastro | klattimer: how you looking over there, all set? | 15:44 |
| klattimer | jcastro: yeah | 15:44 |
| jcastro | everything set for UDS? (Don't forget to register in launchpad: https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-n ) | 15:44 |
| klattimer | done | 15:45 |
| jcastro | do you know how blueprints work and all that? | 15:45 |
| klattimer | still working out flight stuff, been very busy today trying to fix a cpu hogging bug | 15:45 |
| klattimer | jcastro: have a good document handy? | 15:45 |
| jcastro | ok, find me like, mid next week and I'll show you how to do it | 15:45 |
| klattimer | k | 15:46 |
| klattimer | cool | 15:46 |
| jcastro | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-n | 15:46 |
| jcastro | basically watch these | 15:46 |
| jcastro | and subscribe to the ones you care about. | 15:46 |
| jcastro | and then it will spam you and you'll be good | 15:46 |
| jcastro | likely ted, dbarth and others will also subscribe you to ones they think you should monitor | 15:46 |
| klattimer | ok, looks pretty straight forward | 15:46 |
| jcastro | and from those we generate the session schedule | 15:46 |
| klattimer | right | 15:47 |
| klattimer | well, I've got some stuff to discuss with dbarth later this week, and we'll be able to generate a blueprint from what i have | 15:47 |
| jcastro | nod | 15:47 |
| jcastro | I made a bunch of videos on how to schedule sessions, they're on ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv | 15:47 |
| jcastro | just go in there and search for "UDS" and you'll be good | 15:47 |
| klattimer | awesome | 15:48 |
| klattimer | jcastro: Error 503 Service Unavailable | 15:48 |
| klattimer | oh, and it's back | 15:49 |
| klattimer | temporary gremlin error | 15:49 |
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