| Riddell | txwikinger: dunno, what happensif you right click on the systray-> System Tray Settings -> tick network manager? | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| txwikinger | thanks.. that's it | 00:02 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: cool.. when you know it | 00:02 |
| txwikinger | :D | 00:02 |
| Riddell | dantti: what's the status? I'm minded to go to bed soon | 00:05 |
| dantti | Riddell: sorry, I'm booking a flight now, do you know what was the kdesdk command to generate a tar ball? | 00:05 |
| Riddell | hmm, not sure, can't see it in kdesdk-scripts | 00:08 |
| Riddell | dantti: get your flight booked, I'll stay up :) | 00:08 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: kubuntu maverick seems pretty good.. I mostly have problems with gnome stuff | 00:10 |
| Riddell | don't worry, I'm sure gnome 3 will fix them all | 00:11 |
| txwikinger | You should do standup comedy :D | 00:11 |
| Riddell | I'm here all week | 00:11 |
| txwikinger | where is here? | 00:12 |
| Riddell | infront of my computer, until 10:10 on Sunday actually | 00:12 |
| txwikinger | Ah | 00:12 |
| txwikinger | well.. don't overdo it | 00:12 |
| txwikinger | I did far too much the last couple of month | 00:13 |
| txwikinger | mostly working to improve ubuntu-ca | 00:13 |
| txwikinger | close to a burn out.. need to reduce it a bit | 00:13 |
| txwikinger | well.. is 10:10 the release time? which one am or pm? which timezone? | 00:15 |
| Riddell | tsk..spoilers.. | 00:15 |
| txwikinger | well.. maybe it should be called 10.42 | 00:16 |
| dantti | Riddell: k, what will you prefer the 0.6.2 final tarball or the diff to the current svn rev? | 00:16 |
| Riddell | dantti: either is fine | 00:16 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: we have Thanksgiving Day on Sunday | 00:17 |
| txwikinger | and Monday is a holiday :) | 00:17 |
| Riddell | a Kubuntu bank holiday! | 00:19 |
| txwikinger | that's how I would spin it :D | 00:20 |
| dantti | Riddell: btw have you tested the changelog feature? | 00:21 |
| Riddell | dantti: yes, worked nicely | 00:21 |
| dantti | good :) | 00:22 |
| Riddell | although I didn't have any updates with bugs in them | 00:22 |
| * txwikinger wonders why the gnome keyring password request always pops up | 00:22 | |
| dantti | right, well I tested with lp, debian and cve all 3 worked fine | 00:22 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: I get that too, worse thing is it doesn't say why it needs the password, horribly insecure | 00:23 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: I think it's due to ubuntu one | 00:23 |
| txwikinger | yeah | 00:23 |
| txwikinger | does removing ubuntu-one stops that? | 00:23 |
| Riddell | does for me | 00:24 |
| txwikinger | ok.. I will try that | 00:24 |
| dantti | apachelogger: around? I never manage to build a tarball :P | 00:26 |
| Riddell | I expect he's asleep | 00:26 |
| dantti | oh | 00:26 |
| dantti | all kpk releases a fedora guy sent me the tarball :P | 00:27 |
| Riddell | create_tarball.rb in kdesdk/scripts seems like a good candidate to try | 00:27 |
| dantti | now he's off so I need to do myself :P | 00:27 |
| dantti | hmm | 00:27 |
| Riddell | but how hard can it be, you just do an svn export, the translations are fiddly but I already have that in our packaging if you want to copy it, then tar zcf | 00:29 |
| dantti | Riddell: I can find that package | 00:30 |
| dantti | *file | 00:30 |
| Riddell | apt-get source kdesdk ? | 00:31 |
| dantti | Riddell: oh I installed it | 00:31 |
| Riddell | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/4.5/kdesdk/scripts/createtarball/ | 00:32 |
| Riddell | we don't seem to package it for some reason | 00:32 |
| Riddell | probably because the build system doesn't install it | 00:32 |
| Riddell | hi Mamarok, how did your 4.5.2 upgrade go? | 00:35 |
| dantti | Riddell: ok, I gave up :P I'll send you an svn diff, create_tarball does not find kpk | 00:38 |
| Riddell | dantti: want me to make one? | 00:38 |
| dantti | Riddell: if it's not much work for you :) | 00:39 |
| dantti | that's why I don't package stuff, I just suck on doing it, even dumb tarballs lol | 00:39 |
| claydoh | Riddell: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3113961.0;topicseen | 00:41 |
| claydoh | tho my upgrade went well, didn't even notice the change, really | 00:41 |
| Riddell | claydoh: i think I need a "how to understand X problems" lesson from mgrasslin at UDS | 00:43 |
| claydoh | Riddell: make sure they save a video of it too :) | 00:43 |
| Riddell | dantti: how's this? http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kpackagekit-0.6.2.tar.gz | 00:44 |
| dantti | Riddell: thanks, it's perfect for me :) , I just have to remove a bunch of icons (svgz) compress as 7z so that kde-apps can store it :P | 00:49 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: what to do for Natty? http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty | ||
| dantti | Riddell: oooh :( | 01:08 |
| Riddell | dantti: ooh? | 01:08 |
| dantti | when I added the check for new updates button I broke the updateDetails | 01:08 |
| dantti | :P | 01:08 |
| dantti | I was taking a screen shot | 01:09 |
| dantti | and saw the bug | 01:09 |
| Riddell | hmm, yes | 01:09 |
| dantti | k, fixed | 01:10 |
| Riddell | dantti: new tar needed? | 01:11 |
| dantti | Riddell: no I can update the tar, I'm pasting you the diff | 01:12 |
| dantti | Riddell: http://pastebin.com/CTB0D0JG | 01:12 |
| Riddell | dantti: still doesn't show changelog info | 01:22 |
| dantti | Riddell: when you click on an item? | 01:22 |
| dantti | or press enter | 01:23 |
| lex79 | Riddell: do you still have the bug list marked for milestone? | 01:23 |
| Riddell | lex79: http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 | 01:24 |
| lex79 | thanks | 01:24 |
| Riddell | dantti: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kpackagekit.png | 01:25 |
| dantti | Riddell: btw, glatozr spoted kpk missing libqtsql and sqlite deps iirc | 01:25 |
| dantti | Riddell: are you already using aptcc with the new patches? | 01:26 |
| Riddell | dantti: ah hah | 01:27 |
| Riddell | packagekit was up to date but not packagekit-backend-aptcc | 01:27 |
| Riddell | groovy | 01:27 |
| dantti | hehe :) | 01:27 |
| Riddell | ok uploading | 01:29 |
| dantti | Riddell: worked fine now? | 01:30 |
| Riddell | yes | 01:34 |
| dantti | nice, much better than "updates: foo" | 01:35 |
| Riddell | thanks for being awesome dantti | 01:37 |
| * Riddell snoozes | 01:37 | |
| JontheEchidna | nini | 01:37 |
| dantti | yw, gnight | 01:37 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 609247 sort've makes the MIR process seem silly. ;-) | 01:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 609247 in qapt (Ubuntu) "[MIR] qapt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/609247 | 01:38 |
| dantti | funny cutting from koloupaint, leaves some shadow.. | 01:40 |
| ScottK | rdieter_work: It was our fellow developers in #ubuntu-x who did it, but there's a patch in our mesa package I believe. I can dig it out if you want it. | 01:51 |
| ScottK | (against 7.9) | 01:51 |
| ScottK | apachelogger and shadeslayer: I don't support 4.5 in lucid-backports, but have no problem with 4.5.2 in maverick-backports after release. | 01:52 |
| jjesse | so what day is the best to download 10.10 before the actual release day? | 01:56 |
| ScottK | jjesse: Download the RC and then rsync to update your ISO | 01:57 |
| jjesse | hrmm ok | 01:57 |
| ScottK | That or just upgrade to maverick and then apply all updates. | 01:58 |
| JontheEchidna | kdelibs4-dev reverse-build-depends down to 83 | 02:03 |
| CIA-116 | [muon] jmthomas * 1182925 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/MainWindow.cpp Fix the software properties action always being disabled. | 02:09 |
| CIA-116 | [muon] jmthomas * 1182926 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/PackageModel/ (PackageWidget.cpp PackageWidget.h) Entirely disabled windows during startup are so early 2000's. Spruce things up a bit with a nice loading/busy indicator for the PackageView | 02:10 |
| dantti | funny, after upgrading some packages composite got disabled and doesn't work anymore :( also nvidia drivers are beta.. pretty weird.. | 04:38 |
| === muesli_ is now known as mueslix | ||
| apachelogger | maco: ok, fair enough | 07:15 |
| apachelogger | dantti: I shall look into tarballing and write you a nice tut ;) | 07:16 |
| dantti | apachelogger: :D that would be nice, I always forgot how to deal with that.. | 07:16 |
| dantti | and there is always someone to create it for me ... | 07:17 |
| apachelogger | that hints me that there is something wrong with the user experience | 07:17 |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 07:17 |
| apachelogger | calculus course starts | 07:17 |
| apachelogger | o/ | 07:17 |
| ulysses | :) | 07:18 |
| dantti | right.. it's 3am here and I can't sleep due to some guys that take ages to finish their jobs :/ | 07:18 |
| * dantti wishes to know why does he needs to wait for a completly unrelated job to finish, stupid boss | 07:19 | |
| jussi | Riddell: good morning, seems the upgrade went just fine! | 09:41 |
| markey | KDE 4.5.2 update was very smooth :) | 09:45 |
| markey | thanks! | 09:45 |
| markey | works great | 09:45 |
| debfx | is kfax still useful? can it display formats okular can't? | 09:51 |
| valorie | markey, is it mostly bugfixes, or what? | 09:53 |
| markey | yes, plus some performance improvements | 09:53 |
| valorie | cool | 09:53 |
| Riddell | jussi, markey: great | 09:57 |
| al | <ulysses> But the source package on Launchpad and Quassel/i18n-master on Launchpad doesn't contain the error, how is it possible, if they are from upstream (I think)? | 10:53 |
| al | it's because they were already fixed | 10:53 |
| al | this was the required change: http://gitorious.org/quassel/quassel/merge_requests/116 | 10:55 |
| jussi | oh lol | 10:55 |
| jussi | Riddell: I just found the first upgrade issue - watching stuff on you tube is like watching in fast forward - no sound and double speed | 10:56 |
| ulysses | al: if it solves the problem it should be backported to Lucid | 10:57 |
| al | ulysses: well, yea, i made merge requests for 0.6 and 0.7 | 11:00 |
| valorie | I had that the other day, jussi | 11:02 |
| valorie | and no sound | 11:02 |
| valorie | at least I'm not alone | 11:02 |
| jussi | valorie: is it fixed for you now? | 11:02 |
| valorie | I just updated kde, and haven't restarted | 11:03 |
| jussi | valorie: also, have you file a bug? | 11:03 |
| valorie | but no | 11:03 |
| valorie | well, I kept thinking it was flash | 11:03 |
| valorie | and trying different things | 11:03 |
| valorie | but had not gotten to filing a bug yet | 11:03 |
| jussi | valorie: was your machine a clean install or an upgrade? | 11:04 |
| valorie | upgrade from lucid | 11:04 |
| jussi | same... | 11:04 |
| valorie | otherwise, everything has been great | 11:04 |
| jussi | right, Im updating again... | 11:05 |
| jussi | It may be a missing codec, no? | 11:05 |
| valorie | for youtube? | 11:07 |
| valorie | I have all codecs for gst, xine and vlc | 11:07 |
| valorie | so I'm thinking not | 11:07 |
| jussi | yeah, but if someone borked/changed something there... | 11:09 |
| valorie | well, Amarok plays with both gst and xine | 11:13 |
| valorie | haven't tried with vlc | 11:13 |
| valorie | but I reinstalled the flash-plugins, etc. | 11:13 |
| valorie | messed with all my sound settings in alsamixer, kmix | 11:14 |
| debfx | we should mention in the release notes how to switch between the desktop and netbook workspace | 11:33 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: interesting comment here, maybe we should do that as an SRU http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4331 | 11:47 |
| * shadeslayer looks | 11:47 | |
| shadeslayer | oh i saw that | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer | possibly yes | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: why doesnt canonical send ads on the television and stuff? to promote ubuntu | 11:52 |
| debfx | wouldn't that break all other fonts? | 11:52 |
| shadeslayer | alot of people dont know about the choices they have for OS's | 11:52 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 11:52 |
| Riddell | debfx: fontconfig should be clever enough to find the glyph in the ubuntu font even when other fonts are being used | 11:53 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: good point :) | 11:53 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: for a product given away at no cost? doesn't make commercial sense | 11:53 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: we are big fans of free stuff :P | 11:54 |
| Riddell | debfx: I can use the rupee symbol fine in kate which is using a monospace font (so not ubuntu font) | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer | btw i cant find it :P | 11:56 |
| shadeslayer | the rupee symbol | 11:56 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: ₹ | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | im in the character selector > Symbols > Currency Symbols | 11:57 |
| debfx | indeed, it works fine | 11:57 |
| debfx | fontconfig++ :) | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: ah yes, i have liberation in quassel and it works | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: we should contact one of the news channels here and send them a quick report ^_^ | 11:59 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: I think you have to edit /usr/share/locale/currency/inr.desktop manually | 12:00 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: go for it | 12:00 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: CurrencyCodeIsoNumeric3=356 ?? that line? | 12:02 |
| shadeslayer | i can get the code from wikipedia | 12:02 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: CurrencyUnitSymbols | 12:02 |
| shadeslayer | ahok | 12:03 |
| * shadeslayer prepares patch | 12:03 | |
| Riddell | http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/rupee.html copy and paste :) | 12:03 |
| shadeslayer | gah.. nano doesnt show it -.- | 12:04 |
| Riddell | file a bug with the debdiff for SRU | 12:04 |
| Riddell | use kate | 12:04 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 12:04 |
| shadeslayer | mailz sent | 12:15 |
| shadeslayer | now i wonder if they even look at that email address ;) | 12:15 |
| * shadeslayer will post to CNN-IBN as well | 12:16 | |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 12:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: thy shall not use the nano!@!@! | 12:22 |
| shadeslayer | ok ... but its easy :D | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | no it is not | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | vim is easy | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | and vim is supreme | 12:23 |
| ulysses | kate! | 12:24 |
| shadeslayer | editor flame war!! | 12:24 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 12:24 |
| apachelogger | V-I-M!!!! | 12:25 |
| apachelogger | there is nothing to flame war about | 12:25 |
| apachelogger | vim is supreme period | 12:25 |
| ulysses | K-A-T-E!!!!4444 | 12:25 |
| shadeslayer | N-A-N-O | 12:25 |
| * shadeslayer looks at Riddell | 12:25 | |
| apachelogger | hm | 12:26 |
| apachelogger | nonono | 12:26 |
| * apachelogger dares Riddell not to say the E word | 12:26 | |
| ulysses | e as exterminate? | 12:26 |
| apachelogger | no, the bad E word | 12:26 |
| shadeslayer | ulysses: e as in you-know-the-text-editor-which-starts-with-e | 12:27 |
| shadeslayer | has mac in the middle | 12:27 |
| apachelogger | the one from the man with the beared | 12:27 |
| apachelogger | yes, right, santa clause | 12:27 |
| ulysses | ed? | 12:28 |
| debfx | nano is perfectly fine to edit config files :p | 12:28 |
| apachelogger | nano is not fine for anything | 12:28 |
| ulysses | oh, I get it | 12:28 |
| * shadeslayer hugs debfx | 12:28 | |
| apachelogger | echo is finer than nano | 12:28 |
| apachelogger | in fact I found myself echoing stuff to /etc/apt/sources.list in pbuilders :P | 12:28 |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 12:30 |
| apachelogger | need to get updated on software architectures | 12:30 |
| apachelogger | also think a bit about natty | 12:30 |
| jussi | apachelogger: Great news that you will be at UDS! I look forward to buying you a beer! :D | 12:41 |
| shadeslayer | http://pastebin.com/qLzfXcMd :: does that look ok? | 12:46 |
| shadeslayer | or does Rs come before | 12:46 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. default should be changed too | 12:47 |
| jussi | So yeah, after upgrade to maverick, seems like flash vids have super speed - both dailymotion and youtube tested | 13:06 |
| jussi | Riddell: any ideas? | 13:06 |
| Riddell | I'm afraid not | 13:06 |
| Riddell | I've not heard of that problem and of course flash is a closed box to us | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: tried the new flash 64 bit packages? | 13:07 |
| jussi | probably a good I dea for someone elst to test it | 13:07 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: np | 13:07 |
| jussi | no | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | i haz them, seems to work pretty good too | 13:07 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: where are they? | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | one sec | 13:08 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: https://edge.launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash | 13:09 |
| jussi | who is seven machines? trustable? | 13:10 |
| shadeslayer | no idea, but im using the packages, and omgubuntu advertised them | 13:12 |
| Riddell | "omgubuntu" and "trustable" don't always go together | 13:12 |
| jussi | oh, then I should avoid them like the plague.. | 13:12 |
| jussi | heh | 13:12 |
| shadeslayer | hehe... | 13:13 |
| Riddell | try adobe's site | 13:13 |
| shadeslayer | theres doesnt have packages | 13:13 |
| jussi | do I need to remove the 32 bit one first? | 13:13 |
| shadeslayer | but yeah, you can download the files and move them into correct dirs | 13:13 |
| debfx | jussi: yes, remove flashplugin-installer and put the 64bit .so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins | 13:15 |
| jussi | thanks debfx | 13:15 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: Riddell debfx, the new plugin doesnt help sadly :/ | 13:23 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 13:23 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: you downloaded it from labs.adobe right? | 13:23 |
| jussi | yup | 13:23 |
| jussi | its a pretty serious issue for upgrades... | 13:23 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| * txwikinger has lots of complains about archives' Release files not properly updated | 14:10 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: what about rekonq 0.6.1 ? | 14:13 |
| Riddell | voila https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rekonq/0.6.1-0ubuntu1 | 14:13 |
| shadeslayer | ah great :D | 14:13 |
| shadeslayer | now this is the weird | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | http://imgur.com/nMdan :: look at URL bar | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | and then below it | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | gtg.. cya laterz | 14:17 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: when do those repositories get properly rescanned? | 14:26 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: the publisher runs at :03 past the hour and is done by about :40 past the hour | 14:31 |
| txwikinger | Ah | 14:32 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: which is the package for the mpeg plugins for konqueror? | 14:33 |
| Riddell | how do you mean mpeg plugins? | 14:36 |
| Riddell | Quintasan, shadeslayer: where are the packages made by project neon? | 14:37 |
| txwikinger | hmm.. even after the upgrade I still cannot use gtk-based apps | 14:43 |
| txwikinger | they just don't take any input (mouse or keyboard_ | 14:43 |
| txwikinger | in gnome everything works | 14:48 |
| rdieter_work | ScottK: hi, re: that X/mesa patch you mentioned, yeah, I'd def be interested if you could dig it up (or give me pointers where to find it). thanks! | 14:55 |
| Riddell | rdieter_work: ScottK is also away today | 15:10 |
| rdieter_work | I guess that comment was awhile ago. oh well, I'm poking around in launchpad, afaict, you just updated to a more recent 7.9 snapshot | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa | 15:12 |
| shadeslayer | go bezerk and break your system :D | 15:12 |
| Riddell | rdieter_work: yes https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/7.9~git20100924-0ubuntu2 | 15:14 |
| rdieter_work | Riddell: ok, thanks. I'm testing the 7.9 final tarball now, by all accounts, is much better indeed. | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | halo | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | jussi: I suppose you want to get me drunk and trick me into doing a memenu for kde | 16:19 |
| debfx | EHLO apachelogger | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | jussi: forget about it :P | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | brrr | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | kontact eats mails | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | or akonadi | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | one cannot be sure these days ^^ | 16:30 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: huh, haven't seen that before | 16:31 |
| apachelogger | well, it had to do with my profile being all broken for whatever reason | 16:31 |
| jussi | apachelogger: of course :P | 16:42 |
| jussi | apachelogger: I was actually thinking of quassel improvements, but yeah... | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | brrr | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | I think you will have to put me on H to get me hack on quassel :P | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | then again I would probably not be able to hack on that, so... | 16:43 |
| jussi | apachelogger: hehe | 16:50 |
| CIA-116 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183228 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h cache.cpp cache.h package.cpp) Speed up Package::isSupported() by making a cache of package index files to prevent doing a binary search for the index file from the sources list each time isSupported() is called. | 16:50 |
| jussi | apachelogger: fine, Ill use you as a pawn to get Sput working :D | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, ScottK: bug 655646 <- release note about the default behaviour change maybe? | 16:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 655646 in kopete (Ubuntu) "Kopete's icon not shown in system tray" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/655646 | 16:51 |
| shadeslayer | uh | 16:51 |
| shadeslayer | i haz kopete icon | 16:51 |
| apachelogger | jussi: you just need to send Sput lots of kisses and simley faces and all that flirty stuff, I am somewhat certain that works | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://imgur.com/rzJg8 | 16:52 |
| jussi | apachelogger: I sent alcohol, it worked for a time, but not anymore :( | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: well, I manually switched it off while I was still on lucid, but from a discussion we had at a metting I gather that it ought to be off by default | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: your coming to UDS as well? | 16:52 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: correct | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | jussi: clearly he ran out of alcohol then | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: ooohh.... if i get my visa on friday, me too :D | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: turn it back on!!!! | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | oh right, I cannot do no quassel haxx0ring anyway because I need to shape shadeslayer into a clone of apachelogger | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | yus | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that would be inconsistent | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: apachelogger is mine! mine i say! | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | either the message indicator is used every where or it is not at all | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: clone of you without bugs :P | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | i haz bugs of my own ^_^ | 16:54 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: they arent bugs, only features | 16:54 |
| apachelogger | also note that I think the issue reported there is not about not being able to have a kopete tray icon but by default not having one | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | hehehe | 16:54 |
| apachelogger | which is a behaviour change that IMHO should be documented as to avoid such bug reports | 16:54 |
| apachelogger | or to have a pointer for people who do report such bugs | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | so JontheEchidna can go RTFM $URL | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer | yes, you can enable the icon from kopete settings | 16:55 |
| Riddell | or have it in the release announcement, claydoh ^^ | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yes, that is not what is reported there though | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer | also, one needs to restart kopete to get that systray icon, for some insane reason.... | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | from the bug description it would appear that the user expects kopete to have a tray icon after upgrade which is not the case because the default behaviour changed with regards to that | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: feel free to fix that ;) | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | or create a meaningful replacement for kopete, eitherway is fine with me | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | TBH kopete is not as visually appealing as it should be in the age of being all sorts of social over the intarwebs | 16:57 |
| Riddell | kopete is getting past its best, I keep hoping some new telepathy replacement will pop up one day | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell++ | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer | empathy-kde? :D | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | surely what is missing is a qgraphicsitem ^^ | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | like with a proper KDE video player | 16:58 |
| Riddell | that too | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer | dpkg-source: error: source package has two conflicting values - kdeaccessibility and project-neon-kdeaccessibility :: wth | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: btw, do you know a thing or two about QtDBus? I am working on a follow up blog post about specific QtDBus experience as part of my GSoC project and was hoping that you could have a look at it before I publish (after release of maverick of course) | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: grep kdeaccessibility debian/control :P | 17:00 |
| Riddell | I'd think agateau knows a lot more than I do | 17:00 |
| agateau | apachelogger: I know a bit about qtdbus indeed | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | oh, ok, I will poke you then, once it is ready ;) | 17:01 |
| agateau | apachelogger: it is my understanding you will be at UDS, right? | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | yups | 17:01 |
| agateau | apachelogger: great! we can have a look there if you wish | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | agateau: well, I just need some overal sanity review on the post, it is not very long | 17:02 |
| * apachelogger tries to keeps his posts to the point since he himself has a tendency to go TLDR on other's posts ^^ | 17:02 | |
| agateau | apachelogger: ok, feel free to poke me when it's ready | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | kthx | 17:02 |
| * apachelogger starts looking for his notes on UDS discussion material | 17:02 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/kdeaccessibility-ubuntu/annotate/head:/control :: dunno whats wrong | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do I just toss things at the wiki page for now and we select later? | 17:03 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yes | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: Source: kdeaccessibility | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: your probably says project-neon-kdeaccessibility | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: okidoki | 17:03 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: can i put rekonq 0.6.1 for lucid in kubuntu ppa which has 4.5.1? | 17:10 |
| * apachelogger is wondering where that other sheet with notes on discussion topics for UDS went | 17:17 | |
| apachelogger | ...jussi must have hidden it, so I have more time to implement a memenu... | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 17:18 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 17:18 |
| shadeslayer | maybe he put it inside ubottu | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | !find apachelogger's notes on stuff to discuss at UDS | 17:19 |
| ubottu | notes is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, jaunty, jaunty-backports, jaunty-proposed, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, partner, stable, testing, unstable | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | :O | 17:19 |
| jussi | lol | 17:19 |
| jussi | !find apachelogger | 17:19 |
| ubottu | Package/file apachelogger does not exist in lucid | 17:19 |
| jussi | aww | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | that bot is so broken | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | so horribly utterly broken | 17:20 |
| jussi | apachelogger: you need to rectify that | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | I am becoming java haxx0r now | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | ok so kde a11y done for neon :D | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | a11y is really done for... | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | I think the only truely working app there is jovie, and even there you need to do hardcore messing to get the backend in order | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | oh craps | 17:23 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: can it go in normal backports? | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: it depends on KDE 4.5.1 it would seem | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | aye | 17:28 |
| Riddell | ok, kubuntu-ppa/updates it is then | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | and ScottK wont allow 4.5.1 in lucid :) | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | alright | 17:28 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: did I ever find out why 0.6.1 depends on kde 4.5.1? | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: updates has 4.4.5 | 17:30 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: sorry I mean backports | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | also | 17:30 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: how did koffice go? | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | ah, nvm | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: its still in pbuilder .. loads of breakages | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | the latest one being http://pastebin.com/7Dy1EnDj | 17:31 |
| Riddell | well that's why you compile it locally first to do the necessary updates to the packaging before using pbuilder | 17:34 |
| Riddell | have you run dh_install --list-missing to add the new files? | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | yes im working on it ;) | 17:36 |
| Sput | jussi: I'm working hard on preparing scripting support! | 17:43 |
| Sput | jussi: http://gitorious.org/quassel/quassel/commits/events now stop pretending I'm lazy! | 17:44 |
| jussi | Sput: !!!!! excellent! I will have to send you some more nice alcohol when it lands! | 17:45 |
| * jussi hugs sput and hands over energy cookies | 17:45 | |
| Sput | I can't promise scripting for 0.8, but the events support (which is a precondition for doing scripting) should be ready in a few weeks | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | Sput: plz get /clear support :) | 17:47 |
| jussi | Sput: excellent | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | itll be awesome if you could clear buffers with /clear | 17:48 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: nom why would you want that= | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | dont have to part channels to clear buffers? | 17:48 |
| Sput | should be a more or less trivial patch, that someone could just do! | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: kde a11y is broken \o/ http://launchpadlibrarian.net/57189490/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.project-neon-kdeaccessibility_1.0%2B2343-4~maverick1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | Sput: i could, but have no idea where the code needs to be added :P | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | if its trivial that is | 17:49 |
| * shadeslayer smells a project coming up | 17:50 | |
| Sput | we're talking removing the messages from view, not from the database, right? | 18:01 |
| CIA-116 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183240 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp We don't need to get a full state readout to determine whether or not a package is installed. Speed Package::isInstalled() up by checking for installation without calling state(). | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | Sput: both actually | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | i guess you have slots for clearing the DB and the view? | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | what fun : http://pastebin.com/i2gi8CRp | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: line 40 : http://pastebin.com/i2gi8CRp : where does that go? | 18:24 |
| trichard | hey, mplayer complains about not finding libvdpau_nvidia.so while i do have the nvidia binary drivers installed | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | trichard: you needz vdpau | 18:25 |
| trichard | libvdpau1 is installed as well | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | !info nvidia-185-libvdpau | 18:25 |
| ubottu | nvidia-185-libvdpau (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers): Transitional package for nvidia-185-libvdpau. In component restricted, is optional. Version 195.36.24-0ubuntu1~10.04 (lucid), package size 4 kB, installed size 48 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia) | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | that ^ | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | !find libvdpau_nvidia.so maverick | 18:25 |
| ubottu | File libvdpau_nvidia.so found in nvidia-current | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 18:25 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: great CMakeLists.txt files for where it gets made | 18:25 |
| trichard | i'm on 10.10 so i use the 260 driver | 18:25 |
| Riddell | it's probably a general part of koffice-libs | 18:26 |
| * txwikinger got finally non-qt apps in KDE working again | 18:26 | |
| * apachelogger thinks shadeslayer is really darth vader | 18:27 | |
| shadeslayer | 0_o | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | what makes you think so? :P | 18:27 |
| * shadeslayer fears his secret will be revealed | 18:28 | |
| apachelogger | I have proof... | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | you better pay me 2k/month or I will publish them | 18:28 |
| txwikinger | apachelogger: Are you his son? | 18:28 |
| shadeslayer | rofl ^ | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: is shadeslayer my daddy? | 18:28 |
| * shadeslayer waves a hand in Jedi manner and proof vanishes | 18:29 | |
| shadeslayer | :P | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: mom, look what he did ^^^^^^^ | 18:32 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: i think final ISO's are up | 18:36 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty :: doesnt state disneyland :/ | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | that does not need discussion it requires execution | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | Community works - getting more minions :: haha :D | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | Kubuntu Marketing & Promotion -> Kubuntu Marketing, Branding & Promotion | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | forming a brand is a big topic that IMHO should (if) be discussed seperately | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | ok ill make it seprate | 18:41 |
| apachelogger | also quite frankly I would split marketing at large from promotion too and merge former with the koffice foo I listed too | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | done | 18:42 |
| apachelogger | that we can work out later though, I am not sure how much we should go into that topic at one UDS because to market something you need to know whom to market it for, so creating a proper idea of what our target audience looks like is sort of condition to even work out a plan to get more marketing efforts going | 18:42 |
| * dasKreech pokes apachelogger | 18:55 | |
| dasKreech | Timelords? | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | no poking in public | 18:55 |
| * dasKreech palms apachelogger | 18:55 | |
| apachelogger | that will surely get me into troubles in the lands of florida | 18:55 |
| dasKreech | oh UDS is in florida? | 18:55 |
| dasKreech | hmmmmm | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | yus | 18:58 |
| apachelogger | I wonder why we could not have opted for disney resorts though | 18:59 |
| oxymoron | Does somebody know if grub 2 will make it for *buntu 10.10 release? | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | whaaa | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer | oxymoron: if it aint out now, it wont make it | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | we are using grub2 since like lucid or so? | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | :O | 19:09 |
| ulysses | since karmic, no? | 19:09 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: not true grub 2 | 19:09 |
| shadeslayer | its grub 1.9.something | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | ... | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | oh mama | 19:10 |
| shadeslayer | like... beta releases | 19:10 |
| shadeslayer | !info grub2 | 19:10 |
| ubottu | grub2 (source: grub2): GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (dummy package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.98-1ubuntu7 (lucid), package size 2 kB, installed size 308 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 kopensolaris-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 lpia powerpc sparc mipsel) | 19:10 |
| shadeslayer | 1.98 see | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | now like there is any difference if we are using $WHATEVERRCS rev 300 or 302 | 19:10 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=300&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 300 | More updates. Removed files not use anymore. | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | ubottu: you be silent you stupid thing | 19:11 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | see... :P | 19:11 |
| shadeslayer | ubottu: there there | 19:12 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about there there | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | you got to be kidding me | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | so | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | what sorta english are they talking in florida? | 19:13 |
| shadeslayer | the normal kind? :D | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | yeah, sure, like any one on the island of america is capable of speaking normal english :P | 19:14 |
| ulysses | I found a bug on the webpage, in http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.2 | 19:39 |
| ulysses | ppa:kubuntu-ppa should be ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa | 19:39 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ^ | 19:42 |
| dasKreech | ulysses: thanks | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | now why didnt i see that before | 19:43 |
| * apachelogger makes a spooky face | 19:57 | |
| shadeslayer | finally im done with koffice, install files need sorting, but ill do that tmmrw | 20:12 |
| shadeslayer | i need to make a script to do that | 20:12 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: as long as you do not use no dark powers in the creation process... | 20:20 |
| shadeslayer | hehe... | 20:20 |
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| dasKreech | Does anyone know if the Systray calendar syncs with your country? | 22:31 |
| CIA-116 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183297 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.h cache.h package.h) apidox++ | 22:49 |
| CIA-116 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183300 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp QHash is more efficient, and we don't need guaranteed position of our hash elements | 22:52 |
| CIA-116 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183303 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp Avoid casts from ascii | 22:53 |
| JontheEchidna | boo @ internet outages @school | 22:53 |
| dasKreech | hi JontheEchidna | 22:57 |
| JontheEchidna | hi | 23:07 |
| CIA-116 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183310 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp Less ascii casting | 23:15 |
| JontheEchidna | zomg | 23:18 |
| JontheEchidna | I can change the default implementation of QApt::Package::name() to return a QLatin1String, since the QString constructor accepts a QLatin1String as an argument | 23:18 |
| JontheEchidna | since symbols for functions don't reflect return type | 23:19 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, technically that compiles, but it doesn't really work. :P | 23:23 |
| JontheEchidna | I get that square thingie that happens when there isn't a glyph for a certain symbol | 23:23 |
| JontheEchidna | Oh, duh. Because it only accepts QLatin1String as a QString constructor value at compile time, but at runtime it expects the QString data structure | 23:25 |
| dasKreech | will Fluffy be getting a new release? | 23:26 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: did KOffice get anywhere? upstream released | 23:53 |
| valorie | any fix for the youtube problem on upgrade? | 23:57 |
| valorie | I thought the KDE 4.5.2 upgrade might help, but nope | 23:57 |
| valorie | still silent and double-speed | 23:57 |
| Riddell | work out what you and jussi have in common? I haven't heard the problem from anyone else | 23:58 |
| valorie | wow | 23:58 |
| valorie | I guess that's good for everyone else | 23:58 |
| valorie | lol | 23:58 |
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