[00:01] <Riddell> txwikinger: dunno, what happensif you right click on the systray-> System Tray Settings -> tick network manager?
[00:02] <txwikinger> thanks.. that's it
[00:02] <txwikinger> Riddell: cool.. when you know it
[00:02] <txwikinger> :D
[00:05] <Riddell> dantti: what's the status?  I'm minded to go to bed soon
[00:05] <dantti> Riddell: sorry, I'm booking a flight now, do you know what was the kdesdk command to generate a tar ball?
[00:08] <Riddell> hmm, not sure, can't see it in kdesdk-scripts 
[00:08] <Riddell> dantti: get your flight booked, I'll stay up :)
[00:10] <txwikinger> Riddell: kubuntu maverick seems pretty good.. I mostly have problems with gnome stuff
[00:11] <Riddell> don't worry, I'm sure gnome 3 will fix them all
[00:11] <txwikinger> You should do standup comedy :D
[00:11] <Riddell> I'm here all week
[00:12] <txwikinger> where is here?
[00:12] <Riddell> infront of my computer, until 10:10 on Sunday actually
[00:12] <txwikinger> Ah
[00:12] <txwikinger> well.. don't overdo it
[00:13] <txwikinger> I did far too much the last couple of month
[00:13] <txwikinger> mostly working to improve ubuntu-ca
[00:13] <txwikinger> close to a burn out.. need to reduce it a bit
[00:15] <txwikinger> well.. is 10:10 the release time? which one am or pm? which timezone?
[00:15] <Riddell> tsk..spoilers..
[00:16] <txwikinger> well.. maybe it should be called 10.42
[00:16] <dantti> Riddell: k, what will you prefer the 0.6.2 final tarball or the diff to the current svn rev?
[00:16] <Riddell> dantti: either is fine
[00:17] <txwikinger> Riddell: we have Thanksgiving Day on Sunday
[00:17] <txwikinger> and Monday is a holiday :)
[00:19] <Riddell> a Kubuntu bank holiday!
[00:20] <txwikinger> that's how I would spin it :D
[00:21] <dantti> Riddell: btw have you tested the changelog feature?
[00:21] <Riddell> dantti: yes, worked nicely
[00:22] <dantti> good :)
[00:22] <Riddell> although I didn't have any updates with bugs in them
[00:22]  * txwikinger wonders why the gnome keyring password request always pops up
[00:22] <dantti> right, well I tested with lp, debian and cve all 3 worked fine
[00:23] <Riddell> txwikinger: I get that too, worse thing is it doesn't say why it needs the password, horribly insecure
[00:23] <Riddell> txwikinger: I think it's due to ubuntu one
[00:23] <txwikinger> yeah
[00:23] <txwikinger> does removing ubuntu-one stops that?
[00:24] <Riddell> does for me
[00:24] <txwikinger> ok.. I will try that
[00:26] <dantti> apachelogger: around? I never manage to build a tarball :P
[00:26] <Riddell> I expect he's asleep
[00:26] <dantti> oh
[00:27] <dantti> all kpk releases a fedora guy sent me the tarball :P
[00:27] <Riddell> create_tarball.rb in kdesdk/scripts seems like a good candidate to try
[00:27] <dantti> now he's off so I need to do myself :P
[00:27] <dantti> hmm
[00:29] <Riddell> but how hard can it be, you just do an svn export, the translations are fiddly but I already have that in our packaging if you want to copy it, then tar zcf
[00:30] <dantti> Riddell: I can find that package
[00:30] <dantti> *file
[00:31] <Riddell> apt-get source kdesdk ?
[00:31] <dantti> Riddell: oh I installed it
[00:32] <Riddell> http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/4.5/kdesdk/scripts/createtarball/
[00:32] <Riddell> we don't seem to package it for some reason
[00:32] <Riddell> probably because the build system doesn't install it
[00:35] <Riddell> hi Mamarok, how did your 4.5.2 upgrade go?
[00:38] <dantti> Riddell: ok, I gave up :P I'll send you an svn diff, create_tarball does not find kpk
[00:38] <Riddell> dantti: want me to make one?
[00:39] <dantti> Riddell: if it's not much work for you :)
[00:39] <dantti> that's why I don't package stuff, I just suck on doing it, even dumb tarballs lol
[00:41] <claydoh> Riddell: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3113961.0;topicseen
[00:41] <claydoh> tho my upgrade went well, didn't even notice the change, really
[00:43] <Riddell> claydoh: i think I need a "how to understand X problems" lesson from mgrasslin at UDS
[00:43] <claydoh> Riddell: make sure they save a video of it too :)
[00:44] <Riddell> dantti: how's this? http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kpackagekit-0.6.2.tar.gz
[00:49] <dantti> Riddell: thanks, it's perfect for me :) , I just have to remove a bunch of icons (svgz) compress as 7z so that kde-apps can store it :P
[01:08] <dantti> Riddell:  oooh :(
[01:08] <Riddell> dantti: ooh?
[01:08] <dantti> when I added the check for new updates button I broke the updateDetails
[01:08] <dantti> :P
[01:09] <dantti> I was taking a screen shot
[01:09] <dantti> and saw the bug
[01:09] <Riddell> hmm, yes
[01:10] <dantti> k, fixed 
[01:11] <Riddell> dantti: new tar needed?
[01:12] <dantti> Riddell: no I can update the tar, I'm pasting you the diff
[01:12] <dantti> Riddell: http://pastebin.com/CTB0D0JG
[01:22] <Riddell> dantti: still doesn't show changelog info
[01:22] <dantti> Riddell: when you click on an item?
[01:23] <dantti> or press enter
[01:23] <lex79> Riddell: do you still have the bug list marked for milestone?
[01:24] <Riddell> lex79: http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3
[01:24] <lex79> thanks
[01:25] <Riddell> dantti: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kpackagekit.png
[01:25] <dantti> Riddell: btw, glatozr spoted kpk missing libqtsql and sqlite deps iirc 
[01:26] <dantti> Riddell: are you already using aptcc with the new patches?
[01:27] <Riddell> dantti: ah hah
[01:27] <Riddell> packagekit was up to date but not packagekit-backend-aptcc
[01:27] <Riddell> groovy
[01:27] <dantti> hehe :)
[01:29] <Riddell> ok uploading
[01:30] <dantti> Riddell: worked fine now?
[01:34] <Riddell> yes
[01:35] <dantti> nice, much better than "updates: foo"
[01:37] <Riddell> thanks for being awesome dantti 
[01:37]  * Riddell snoozes
[01:37] <JontheEchidna> nini
[01:37] <dantti> yw, gnight
[01:38] <JontheEchidna> bug 609247 sort've makes the MIR process seem silly. ;-)
[01:40] <dantti> funny cutting from koloupaint, leaves some shadow..
[01:51] <ScottK> rdieter_work: It was our fellow developers in #ubuntu-x who did it, but there's a patch in our mesa package I believe.  I can dig it out if you want it.
[01:51] <ScottK> (against 7.9)
[01:52] <ScottK> apachelogger and shadeslayer: I don't support 4.5 in lucid-backports, but have no problem with 4.5.2 in maverick-backports after release.
[01:56] <jjesse> so what day is the best to download 10.10 before the actual release day?
[01:57] <ScottK> jjesse: Download the RC and then rsync to update your ISO
[01:57] <jjesse> hrmm ok
[01:58] <ScottK> That or just upgrade to maverick and then apply all updates.
[02:03] <JontheEchidna> kdelibs4-dev reverse-build-depends down to 83
[02:09] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1182925 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/MainWindow.cpp Fix the software properties action always being disabled.
[02:10] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1182926 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/PackageModel/ (PackageWidget.cpp PackageWidget.h) Entirely disabled windows during startup are so early 2000's. Spruce things up a bit with a nice loading/busy indicator for the PackageView
[04:38] <dantti> funny, after upgrading some packages composite got disabled and doesn't work anymore :( also nvidia drivers are beta.. pretty weird..
[07:15] <apachelogger> maco: ok, fair enough
[07:16] <apachelogger> dantti: I shall look into tarballing and write you a nice tut ;)
[07:16] <dantti> apachelogger: :D that would be nice, I always forgot how to deal with that..
[07:17] <dantti> and there is always someone to create it for me ...
[07:17] <apachelogger> that hints me that there is something wrong with the user experience
[07:17] <apachelogger> anyhow
[07:17] <apachelogger> calculus course starts
[07:17] <apachelogger> o/
[07:18] <ulysses> :)
[07:18] <dantti> right.. it's 3am here and I can't sleep due to some guys that take ages to finish their jobs :/
[07:19]  * dantti wishes to know why does he needs to wait for a completly unrelated job to finish, stupid boss
[09:41] <jussi> Riddell: good morning, seems the upgrade went just fine!
[09:45] <markey> KDE 4.5.2 update was very smooth :)
[09:45] <markey> thanks!
[09:45] <markey> works great
[09:51] <debfx> is kfax still useful? can it display formats okular can't?
[09:53] <valorie> markey, is it mostly bugfixes, or what?
[09:53] <markey> yes, plus some performance improvements
[09:53] <valorie> cool
[09:57] <Riddell> jussi, markey: great
 But the source package on Launchpad and Quassel/i18n-master on Launchpad doesn't contain the error, how is it possible, if they are from upstream (I think)?
[10:53] <al> it's because they were already fixed
[10:55] <al> this was the required change: http://gitorious.org/quassel/quassel/merge_requests/116
[10:55] <jussi> oh lol
[10:56] <jussi> Riddell: I just found the first upgrade issue - watching stuff on you tube is like watching in fast forward - no sound and double speed
[10:57] <ulysses> al: if it solves the problem it should be backported to Lucid
[11:00] <al> ulysses: well, yea, i made merge requests for 0.6 and 0.7
[11:02] <valorie> I had that the other day, jussi
[11:02] <valorie> and no sound
[11:02] <valorie> at least I'm not alone
[11:02] <jussi> valorie: is it fixed for you now?
[11:03] <valorie> I just updated kde, and haven't restarted
[11:03] <jussi> valorie: also, have you file a bug?
[11:03] <valorie> but no
[11:03] <valorie> well, I kept thinking it was flash
[11:03] <valorie> and trying different things
[11:03] <valorie> but had not gotten to filing a bug yet
[11:04] <jussi> valorie: was your machine a clean install or an upgrade?
[11:04] <valorie> upgrade from lucid
[11:04] <jussi> same...
[11:04] <valorie> otherwise, everything has been great
[11:05] <jussi> right, Im updating again...
[11:05] <jussi> It may be a missing codec, no?
[11:07] <valorie> for youtube?
[11:07] <valorie> I have all codecs for gst, xine and vlc
[11:07] <valorie> so I'm thinking not
[11:09] <jussi> yeah, but if someone borked/changed something there...
[11:13] <valorie> well, Amarok plays with both gst and xine
[11:13] <valorie> haven't tried with vlc
[11:13] <valorie> but I reinstalled the flash-plugins, etc.
[11:14] <valorie> messed with all my sound settings in alsamixer, kmix
[11:33] <debfx> we should mention in the release notes how to switch between the desktop and netbook workspace
[11:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: interesting comment here, maybe we should do that as an SRU http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4331
[11:47]  * shadeslayer looks
[11:48] <shadeslayer> oh i saw that 
[11:48] <shadeslayer> possibly yes
[11:52] <shadeslayer> Riddell: why doesnt canonical send ads on the television and stuff? to promote ubuntu 
[11:52] <debfx> wouldn't that break all other fonts?
[11:52] <shadeslayer> alot of people dont know about the choices they have for OS's
[11:52] <shadeslayer> hmm
[11:53] <Riddell> debfx: fontconfig should be clever enough to find the glyph in the ubuntu font even when other fonts are being used
[11:53] <shadeslayer> debfx: good point :)
[11:53] <Riddell> shadeslayer: for a product given away at no cost?  doesn't make commercial sense
[11:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we are big fans of free stuff :P
[11:54] <Riddell> debfx: I can use the rupee symbol fine in kate which is using a monospace font (so not ubuntu font)
[11:56] <shadeslayer> btw i cant find it :P
[11:56] <shadeslayer> the rupee symbol
[11:57] <debfx> shadeslayer: ₹
[11:57] <shadeslayer> im in the character selector > Symbols > Currency Symbols
[11:57] <debfx> indeed, it works fine
[11:57] <debfx> fontconfig++ :)
[11:57] <shadeslayer> debfx: ah yes, i have liberation in quassel and it works
[11:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we should contact one of the news channels here and send them a quick report ^_^
[12:00] <debfx> shadeslayer: I think you have to edit /usr/share/locale/currency/inr.desktop manually
[12:00] <Riddell> shadeslayer: go for it
[12:02] <shadeslayer> debfx: CurrencyCodeIsoNumeric3=356 ?? that line?
[12:02] <shadeslayer> i can get the code from wikipedia
[12:02] <debfx> shadeslayer: CurrencyUnitSymbols
[12:03] <shadeslayer> ahok
[12:03]  * shadeslayer prepares patch
[12:03] <Riddell> http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/rupee.html  copy and paste :)
[12:04] <shadeslayer> gah.. nano doesnt show it -.-
[12:04] <Riddell> file a bug with the debdiff for SRU
[12:04] <Riddell> use kate
[12:04] <shadeslayer> yeah
[12:15] <shadeslayer> mailz sent
[12:15] <shadeslayer> now i wonder if they even look at that email address ;)
[12:16]  * shadeslayer will post to CNN-IBN as well
[12:18] <apachelogger> oh dear
[12:22] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: thy shall  not use the nano!@!@!
[12:22] <shadeslayer> ok ... but its easy :D
[12:23] <apachelogger> no it is not
[12:23] <apachelogger> vim is easy
[12:23] <apachelogger> and vim is supreme
[12:24] <ulysses> kate!
[12:24] <shadeslayer> editor flame war!!
[12:24] <shadeslayer> \o/
[12:25] <apachelogger> V-I-M!!!!
[12:25] <apachelogger> there is nothing to flame war about
[12:25] <apachelogger> vim is supreme period
[12:25] <ulysses> K-A-T-E!!!!4444
[12:25] <shadeslayer> N-A-N-O
[12:25]  * shadeslayer looks at Riddell 
[12:26] <apachelogger> hm
[12:26] <apachelogger> nonono
[12:26]  * apachelogger dares Riddell not to say the E word
[12:26] <ulysses> e as exterminate?
[12:26] <apachelogger> no, the bad E word
[12:27] <shadeslayer> ulysses: e as in you-know-the-text-editor-which-starts-with-e
[12:27] <shadeslayer> has mac in the middle
[12:27] <apachelogger> the one from the man with the beared
[12:27] <apachelogger> yes, right, santa clause
[12:28] <ulysses> ed?
[12:28] <debfx> nano is perfectly fine to edit config files :p
[12:28] <apachelogger> nano is not fine for anything
[12:28] <ulysses> oh, I get it
[12:28]  * shadeslayer hugs debfx
[12:28] <apachelogger> echo is finer than nano
[12:28] <apachelogger> in fact I found myself echoing stuff to /etc/apt/sources.list in pbuilders :P
[12:30] <apachelogger> anyhow
[12:30] <apachelogger> need to get updated on software architectures
[12:30] <apachelogger> also think a bit about natty
[12:41] <jussi> apachelogger: Great news that you will be at UDS! I look forward to buying you a beer! :D
[12:46] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.com/qLzfXcMd :: does that look ok?
[12:46] <shadeslayer> or does Rs come before
[12:47] <shadeslayer> hmm.. default should be changed too
[13:06] <jussi> So yeah, after upgrade to maverick, seems like flash vids have super speed - both dailymotion and youtube tested
[13:06] <jussi> Riddell: any ideas?
[13:06] <Riddell> I'm afraid not
[13:07] <Riddell> I've not heard of that problem and of course flash is a closed box to us
[13:07] <shadeslayer> jussi: tried the new flash 64 bit packages?
[13:07] <jussi> probably a good I dea for someone elst to test it
[13:07] <jussi> shadeslayer: np
[13:07] <jussi> no
[13:07] <shadeslayer> i haz them, seems to work pretty good too
[13:07] <jussi> shadeslayer: where are they?
[13:08] <shadeslayer> one sec
[13:09] <shadeslayer> jussi: https://edge.launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[13:10] <jussi> who is seven machines? trustable?
[13:12] <shadeslayer> no idea, but im using the packages, and omgubuntu advertised them
[13:12] <Riddell> "omgubuntu" and "trustable" don't always go together
[13:12] <jussi> oh, then I should avoid them like the plague..
[13:12] <jussi> heh
[13:13] <shadeslayer> hehe...
[13:13] <Riddell> try adobe's site
[13:13] <shadeslayer> theres doesnt have packages
[13:13] <jussi> do I need to remove the 32 bit one first?
[13:13] <shadeslayer> but yeah, you can download the files and move them into correct dirs
[13:15] <debfx> jussi: yes, remove flashplugin-installer and put the 64bit .so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[13:15] <jussi> thanks debfx
[13:23] <jussi> shadeslayer: Riddell debfx, the new plugin doesnt help sadly :/
[13:23] <shadeslayer> :(
[13:23] <shadeslayer> jussi: you downloaded it from labs.adobe right?
[13:23] <jussi> yup
[13:23] <jussi> its a pretty serious issue for upgrades...
[14:10]  * txwikinger has lots of complains about archives' Release files not properly updated
[14:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what about rekonq 0.6.1 ?
[14:13] <Riddell> voila https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rekonq/0.6.1-0ubuntu1
[14:13] <shadeslayer> ah great :D
[14:14] <shadeslayer> now this is the weird
[14:14] <shadeslayer> http://imgur.com/nMdan :: look at URL bar
[14:14] <shadeslayer> and then below it
[14:17] <shadeslayer> gtg.. cya laterz
[14:26] <txwikinger> Riddell: when do those repositories get properly rescanned?
[14:31] <Riddell> txwikinger: the publisher runs at :03 past the hour and is done by about :40 past the hour
[14:32] <txwikinger> Ah
[14:33] <txwikinger> Riddell: which is the package for the mpeg plugins for konqueror?
[14:36] <Riddell> how do you mean mpeg plugins?
[14:37] <Riddell> Quintasan, shadeslayer: where are the packages made by project neon?
[14:43] <txwikinger> hmm.. even after the upgrade I still cannot use gtk-based apps
[14:43] <txwikinger> they just don't take any input (mouse or keyboard_
[14:48] <txwikinger> in gnome everything works
[14:55] <rdieter_work> ScottK: hi, re: that X/mesa patch you mentioned, yeah, I'd def be interested if you could dig it up (or give me pointers where to find it).  thanks!
[15:10] <Riddell> rdieter_work: ScottK is also away today
[15:10] <rdieter_work> I guess that comment was awhile ago. oh well, I'm poking around in launchpad, afaict, you just updated to a more recent 7.9 snapshot
[15:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa
[15:12] <shadeslayer> go bezerk and break your system :D
[15:14] <Riddell> rdieter_work: yes https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/7.9~git20100924-0ubuntu2
[15:15] <rdieter_work> Riddell: ok, thanks.  I'm testing the 7.9 final tarball now, by all accounts, is much better indeed.
[16:18] <apachelogger> halo
[16:19] <apachelogger> jussi: I suppose you want to get me drunk and trick me into doing a memenu for kde
[16:19] <debfx> EHLO apachelogger
[16:19] <apachelogger> jussi: forget about it :P
[16:30] <apachelogger> brrr
[16:30] <apachelogger> kontact eats mails
[16:30] <apachelogger> or akonadi
[16:30] <apachelogger> one cannot be sure these days ^^
[16:31] <Tm_T> apachelogger: huh, haven't seen that before
[16:31] <apachelogger> well, it had to do with my profile being all broken for whatever reason
[16:42] <jussi> apachelogger: of course :P 
[16:43] <jussi> apachelogger: I was actually thinking of quassel improvements, but yeah...
[16:43] <apachelogger> brrr
[16:43] <apachelogger> I think you will have to put me on H to get me hack on quassel :P
[16:43] <apachelogger> then again I would probably not be able to hack on that, so...
[16:50] <jussi> apachelogger: hehe
[16:50] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183228 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h cache.cpp cache.h package.cpp) Speed up Package::isSupported() by making a cache of package index files to prevent doing a binary search for the index file from the sources list each time isSupported() is called.
[16:50] <jussi> apachelogger: fine, Ill use you as a pawn to get Sput working :D
[16:51] <apachelogger> Riddell, ScottK: bug 655646  <- release note about the default behaviour change maybe?
[16:51] <shadeslayer> uh
[16:51] <shadeslayer> i haz kopete icon
[16:52] <apachelogger> jussi: you just need to send Sput lots of kisses and simley faces and all that flirty stuff, I am somewhat certain that works
[16:52] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://imgur.com/rzJg8
[16:52] <jussi> apachelogger: I sent alcohol, it worked for a time, but not anymore :(
[16:52] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, I manually switched it off while I was still on lucid, but from a discussion we had at a metting I gather that it ought to be off by default
[16:52] <shadeslayer> jussi: your coming to UDS as well?
[16:52] <jussi> shadeslayer: correct
[16:52] <apachelogger> jussi: clearly he ran out of alcohol then
[16:53] <shadeslayer> jussi: ooohh.... if i get my visa on friday, me too :D
[16:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: turn it back on!!!!
[16:53] <apachelogger> oh right, I cannot do no quassel haxx0ring anyway because I need to shape shadeslayer into a clone of apachelogger
[16:53] <shadeslayer> yus
[16:53] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that would be inconsistent
[16:53] <shadeslayer> jussi: apachelogger is mine! mine i say!
[16:54] <apachelogger> either the message indicator is used every where or it is not at all
[16:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: clone of you without bugs :P
[16:54] <shadeslayer> i haz bugs of my own ^_^
[16:54] <jussi> shadeslayer: they arent bugs, only features
[16:54] <apachelogger> also note that I think the issue reported there is not about not being able to have a kopete tray icon but by default not having one
[16:54] <shadeslayer> hehehe
[16:54] <apachelogger> which is a behaviour change that IMHO should be documented as to avoid such bug reports
[16:55] <apachelogger> or to have a pointer for people who do report such bugs
[16:55] <apachelogger> so JontheEchidna can go RTFM $URL
[16:55] <shadeslayer> yes, you can enable the icon from kopete settings
[16:55] <Riddell> or have it in the release announcement, claydoh ^^
[16:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes, that is not what is reported there though
[16:56] <shadeslayer> also, one needs to restart kopete to get that systray icon, for some insane reason....
[16:56] <apachelogger> from the bug description it would appear that the user expects kopete to have a tray icon after upgrade which is not the case because the default behaviour changed with regards to that
[16:56] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: feel free to fix that ;)
[16:56] <apachelogger> or create a meaningful replacement for kopete, eitherway is fine with me
[16:57] <apachelogger> TBH kopete is not as visually appealing as it should be in the age of being all sorts of social over the intarwebs
[16:57] <Riddell> kopete is getting past its best, I keep hoping some new telepathy replacement will pop up one day
[16:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell++
[16:58] <shadeslayer> empathy-kde? :D
[16:58] <apachelogger> surely what is missing is a qgraphicsitem ^^
[16:58] <apachelogger> like with a proper KDE video player
[16:58] <Riddell> that too
[16:58] <shadeslayer> dpkg-source: error: source package has two conflicting values - kdeaccessibility and project-neon-kdeaccessibility :: wth
[16:59] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, do you know a thing or two about QtDBus? I am working on a follow up blog post about specific QtDBus experience as part of my GSoC project and was hoping that you could have a look at it before I publish (after release of maverick of course)
[17:00] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: grep kdeaccessibility debian/control :P
[17:00] <Riddell> I'd think agateau knows a lot more than I do
[17:00] <agateau> apachelogger: I know a bit about qtdbus indeed
[17:01] <apachelogger> oh, ok, I will poke you then, once it is ready ;)
[17:01] <agateau> apachelogger: it is my understanding you will be at UDS, right?
[17:01] <apachelogger> yups
[17:01] <agateau> apachelogger: great! we can have a look there if you wish
[17:02] <apachelogger> agateau: well, I just need some overal sanity review on the post, it is not very long
[17:02]  * apachelogger tries to keeps his posts to the point since he himself has a tendency to go TLDR on other's posts ^^
[17:02] <agateau> apachelogger: ok, feel free to poke me when it's ready
[17:02] <apachelogger> kthx
[17:02]  * apachelogger starts looking for his notes on UDS discussion material
[17:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/kdeaccessibility-ubuntu/annotate/head:/control :: dunno whats wrong
[17:03] <apachelogger> Riddell: do I just toss things at the wiki page for now and we select later?
[17:03] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes
[17:03] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: Source: kdeaccessibility
[17:03] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: your probably says project-neon-kdeaccessibility
[17:03] <apachelogger> Riddell: okidoki
[17:08] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can i put rekonq 0.6.1 for lucid in kubuntu ppa which has 4.5.1?
[17:17]  * apachelogger is wondering where that other sheet with notes on discussion topics for UDS went
[17:18] <apachelogger> ...jussi must have hidden it, so I have more time to implement a memenu...
[17:18] <apachelogger> -.-
[17:18] <shadeslayer> hehe
[17:19] <shadeslayer> maybe he put it inside ubottu
[17:19] <apachelogger> !find apachelogger's notes on stuff to discuss at UDS
[17:19] <apachelogger> :O
[17:19] <jussi> lol
[17:19] <jussi> !find apachelogger
[17:20] <jussi> aww
[17:20] <shadeslayer> :D
[17:20] <apachelogger> that bot is so broken
[17:20] <apachelogger> so horribly utterly broken
[17:20] <jussi> apachelogger: you need to rectify that
[17:20] <apachelogger> I am becoming java haxx0r now
[17:21] <shadeslayer> ok so kde a11y done for neon :D
[17:21] <apachelogger> a11y is really done for...
[17:21] <apachelogger> I think the only truely working app there is jovie, and even there you need to do hardcore messing to get the backend in order
[17:23] <shadeslayer> oh craps
[17:27] <Riddell> shadeslayer: can it go in normal backports?
[17:28] <apachelogger> Riddell: it depends on KDE 4.5.1 it would seem
[17:28] <shadeslayer> aye
[17:28] <Riddell> ok, kubuntu-ppa/updates it is then
[17:28] <shadeslayer> and ScottK wont allow 4.5.1 in lucid :)
[17:28] <shadeslayer> alright
[17:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did I ever find out why 0.6.1 depends on kde 4.5.1?
[17:29] <shadeslayer> nope
[17:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: updates has 4.4.5
[17:30] <Riddell> shadeslayer: sorry I mean backports
[17:30] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:30] <apachelogger> also
[17:30] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how did koffice go?
[17:30] <apachelogger> ah, nvm
[17:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: its still in pbuilder .. loads of breakages
[17:31] <shadeslayer> the latest one being http://pastebin.com/7Dy1EnDj
[17:34] <Riddell> well that's why you compile it locally first to do the necessary updates to the packaging before using pbuilder
[17:35] <Riddell> have you run dh_install --list-missing  to add the new files?
[17:36] <shadeslayer> yes im working on it ;)
[17:43] <Sput> jussi: I'm working hard on preparing scripting support!
[17:44] <Sput> jussi: http://gitorious.org/quassel/quassel/commits/events now stop pretending I'm lazy!
[17:45] <jussi> Sput: !!!!! excellent! I will have to send you some more nice alcohol when it lands!
[17:45]  * jussi hugs sput and hands over energy cookies
[17:46] <Sput> I can't promise scripting for 0.8, but the events support (which is a precondition for doing scripting) should be ready in a few weeks
[17:47] <shadeslayer> Sput: plz get /clear support :)
[17:48] <jussi> Sput: excellent
[17:48] <shadeslayer> itll be awesome if you could clear buffers with /clear
[17:48] <jussi> shadeslayer: nom why would you want that=
[17:48] <shadeslayer> dont have to part channels to clear buffers?
[17:48] <Sput> should be a more or less trivial patch, that someone could just do!
[17:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: kde a11y is broken \o/ http://launchpadlibrarian.net/57189490/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.project-neon-kdeaccessibility_1.0%2B2343-4~maverick1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[17:49] <shadeslayer> Sput: i could, but have no idea where the code needs to be added :P
[17:49] <shadeslayer> if its trivial that is
[17:50]  * shadeslayer smells a project coming up
[18:01] <Sput> we're talking removing the messages from view, not from the database, right?
[18:02] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183240 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp We don't need to get a full state readout to determine whether or not a package is installed. Speed Package::isInstalled() up by checking for installation without calling state().
[18:08] <shadeslayer> Sput: both actually
[18:08] <shadeslayer> i guess you have slots for clearing the DB and the view?
[18:10] <shadeslayer> what fun : http://pastebin.com/i2gi8CRp
[18:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: line 40 : http://pastebin.com/i2gi8CRp : where does that go?
[18:24] <trichard> hey, mplayer complains about not finding libvdpau_nvidia.so while i do have the nvidia binary drivers installed
[18:25] <shadeslayer> trichard: you needz vdpau
[18:25] <trichard> libvdpau1 is installed as well
[18:25] <shadeslayer> !info nvidia-185-libvdpau
[18:25] <shadeslayer> that ^
[18:25] <shadeslayer> !find  libvdpau_nvidia.so maverick
[18:25] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:25] <Riddell> shadeslayer: great CMakeLists.txt files for where it gets made
[18:25] <trichard> i'm on 10.10 so i use the 260 driver
[18:26] <Riddell> it's probably a general part of koffice-libs
[18:26]  * txwikinger got finally non-qt apps in KDE working again
[18:27]  * apachelogger thinks shadeslayer is really darth vader
[18:27] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[18:27] <shadeslayer> what makes you think so? :P
[18:28]  * shadeslayer fears his secret will be revealed 
[18:28] <apachelogger> I have proof...
[18:28] <apachelogger> you better pay me 2k/month or I will publish them
[18:28] <txwikinger> apachelogger: Are you his son?
[18:28] <shadeslayer> rofl ^
[18:28] <apachelogger> Tm_T: is shadeslayer my daddy?
[18:29]  * shadeslayer waves a hand in Jedi manner and proof vanishes 
[18:29] <shadeslayer> :P
[18:32] <apachelogger> Tm_T: mom, look what he did ^^^^^^^
[18:36] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i think final ISO's are up
[18:38] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty :: doesnt state disneyland :/
[18:38] <apachelogger> that does not need discussion it requires execution
[18:39] <shadeslayer> Community works - getting more minions  :: haha :D
[18:39] <shadeslayer> Kubuntu Marketing & Promotion -> Kubuntu Marketing, Branding & Promotion 
[18:40] <apachelogger> forming a brand is a big topic that IMHO should (if) be discussed seperately
[18:41] <shadeslayer> ok ill make it seprate
[18:41] <apachelogger> also quite frankly I would split marketing at large from promotion too and merge former with the koffice foo I listed too
[18:42] <shadeslayer> done
[18:42] <apachelogger> that we can work out later though, I am not sure how much we should go into that topic at one UDS because to market something you need to know whom to market it for, so creating a proper idea of what our target audience looks like is sort of condition to even work out a plan to get more marketing efforts going
[18:55]  * dasKreech pokes apachelogger
[18:55] <dasKreech> Timelords?
[18:55] <apachelogger> no poking in public
[18:55]  * dasKreech palms apachelogger
[18:55] <apachelogger> that will surely get me into troubles in the lands of florida
[18:55] <dasKreech> oh UDS is in florida?
[18:55] <dasKreech> hmmmmm
[18:58] <apachelogger> yus
[18:59] <apachelogger> I wonder why we could not have opted for disney resorts though
[19:05] <oxymoron> Does somebody know if grub 2 will make it for *buntu 10.10 release?
[19:08] <shadeslayer> whaaa
[19:08] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: if it aint out now, it wont make it
[19:09] <apachelogger> we are using grub2 since like lucid or so?
[19:09] <apachelogger> :O
[19:09] <ulysses> since karmic, no?
[19:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: not true grub 2
[19:09] <shadeslayer> its grub 1.9.something
[19:10] <apachelogger> ...
[19:10] <apachelogger> oh mama
[19:10] <shadeslayer> like... beta releases
[19:10] <shadeslayer> !info grub2
[19:10] <shadeslayer> 1.98 see 
[19:10] <apachelogger> now like there is any difference if we are using $WHATEVERRCS rev 300 or 302
[19:11] <apachelogger> ubottu: you be silent you stupid thing
[19:11] <apachelogger> see... :P
[19:12] <shadeslayer> ubottu: there there
[19:12] <apachelogger> you got to be kidding me
[19:12] <apachelogger> so
[19:13] <apachelogger> what sorta english are they talking in florida?
[19:13] <shadeslayer> the normal kind? :D
[19:14] <apachelogger> yeah, sure, like any one on the island of america is capable of speaking normal english :P
[19:39] <ulysses> I found a bug on the webpage, in http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.2
[19:39] <ulysses> ppa:kubuntu-ppa should be ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa
[19:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^
[19:43] <dasKreech> ulysses: thanks
[19:43] <shadeslayer> now why didnt i see that before
[19:57]  * apachelogger makes a spooky face
[20:12] <shadeslayer> finally im done with koffice, install files need sorting, but ill do that tmmrw
[20:12] <shadeslayer> i need to make a script to do that
[20:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: as long as you do not use no dark powers in the creation process...
[20:20] <shadeslayer> hehe...
[22:31] <dasKreech> Does anyone know if the Systray calendar syncs with your country?
[22:49] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183297 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.h cache.h package.h) apidox++
[22:52] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183300 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp QHash is more efficient, and we don't need guaranteed position of our hash elements
[22:53] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183303 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp Avoid casts from ascii
[22:53] <JontheEchidna> boo @ internet outages @school
[22:57] <dasKreech> hi JontheEchidna
[23:07] <JontheEchidna> hi
[23:15] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183310 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp Less ascii casting
[23:18] <JontheEchidna> zomg
[23:18] <JontheEchidna> I can change the default implementation of QApt::Package::name() to return a QLatin1String, since the QString constructor accepts a QLatin1String as an argument
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> since symbols for functions don't reflect return type
[23:23] <JontheEchidna> hmm, technically that compiles, but it doesn't really work. :P
[23:23] <JontheEchidna> I get that square thingie that happens when there isn't a glyph for a certain symbol
[23:25] <JontheEchidna> Oh, duh. Because it only accepts QLatin1String as a QString constructor value at compile time, but at runtime it expects the QString data structure
[23:26] <dasKreech> will Fluffy be getting a new release?
[23:53] <Riddell> shadeslayer: did KOffice get anywhere?  upstream released
[23:57] <valorie> any fix for the youtube problem on upgrade?
[23:57] <valorie> I thought the KDE 4.5.2 upgrade might help, but nope
[23:57] <valorie> still silent and double-speed
[23:58] <Riddell> work out what you and jussi have in common?  I haven't heard the problem from anyone else
[23:58] <valorie> wow
[23:58] <valorie> I guess that's good for everyone else
[23:58] <valorie> lol