[00:15] <dev001> Hi.  I'm doing a 1st ppa-based update to a Kubuntu/Maverick rc install.  Trying to grab the 'new' KDE 4.5.2 pkgs @ "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu maverick  main", after 'apt-get update', I'd expect to see *lots* of offered pkg updates by 'apt-get upgrade'.  Atm, I only see a couple ~ 30MB worth ...  Is there additional prioritization, or some such, required?  Still newish to [K]ubuntu
[00:39] <alexsarmiento> hi, please help
[00:39] <alexsarmiento> im using kubuntu 10.10
[00:39] <alexsarmiento> the package manager updated the nvidia drivers to 260.19.06
[00:40] <alexsarmiento> now i dont have video aoutput
[00:48] <alexsarmiento> the package manager updated the nvidia drivers to 260.19.06
[00:48] <alexsarmiento> now i dont have video output. what can i do?
[00:52] <RadSurfer> HELP! this stupid "notification" for pidgin messages IN ADDITION to actually having pidgin chat is rediculous! How do I TURN OFF NOTIFICATIONS of every incoming message!
[00:53] <RadSurfer> someone know how to TURN THIS GARBAGE OFF
[00:53] <DarthFrog> What is pidgin?
[00:53] <RadSurfer> instant messenger of course
[00:54] <DarthFrog> Of course?  Hmm.  anyway, there will undoubtedly be a setting to twiddle in the Preferences settings.
[00:54] <alexsarmiento> system settings- applications and system notifications?
[00:55] <alexsarmiento> the package manager updated the nvidia drivers to 260.19.06
[00:55] <alexsarmiento> now i dont have video output. what can i do?
[00:57] <RadSurfer> you can't just turn off these stupid things?
[00:58] <RadSurfer> 'pidgin' is not listed under 'Sys Not - sys settings' !!
[01:01] <RadSurfer> ANYONE know how to DISABLE NOTIFICATIONS from Pidgin?
[01:01] <Riddell> RadSurfer: Pidgin is a gnome app, you'll have better luck asking in #ubuntu
[01:01] <Riddell> or using Kopete
[01:01] <RadSurfer> this is RETARTED
[01:01] <RadSurfer> RETARDED even!
[01:01] <RadSurfer> Piging provides its own interface for messages; an ADDITIONAL one is NOT required!
[01:02] <RadSurfer> this is being SYSTEM GENERATED
[01:02] <Riddell> best to avoid capitals and potentially offensive insults on IRC
[01:02] <RadSurfer> emphasis.
[01:03] <RadSurfer> s/Piging/Pidgin
[01:04] <RadSurfer> Anyone at all know how to turn __off__ these additional notifications for pidgin?  anyone?
[01:05] <Riddell> RadSurfer: as I say, you're asking in the wrong channel
[01:06] <RadSurfer> running in kubuntu. valid enuff.
[01:06] <KukuNut> RadSurfer: to disable it.. replace with kopete
[01:07] <RadSurfer> why did I lose the system tray?
[01:07] <RadSurfer> I have no system tray now? where did it go? and why?
[01:09] <RadSurfer> has to be with _focus_ apparently.
[01:09] <alexsarmiento> the package manager updated the nvidia drivers to 260.19.06
[01:09] <alexsarmiento> now i dont have video output. what can i do?
[01:09] <RadSurfer> when Pidgin does not have focus, thats when these annoying popups appear
[01:13] <RadSurfer> does _anyone_ know how to _permanently_ turn _off_ popup notifications from pidgin?
[01:16] <RadSurfer> surely someone else in here also uses pidgin?
[01:16] <alexsarmiento> the package manager updated the nvidia drivers to 260.19.06
[01:16] <alexsarmiento> now i dont have video output. what can i do?
[01:16] <jtduncan> where can i find the new kubuntu logos?
[01:18] <RadSurfer> No one answered me yet: Why did I lose System Tray icons?
[01:27] <frogonwheels> RadSurfer: just add a system tray to your toolbar again (click on the palette icon)
[01:27] <frogonwheels> RadSurfer: (Add widgets - find system tray)
[01:28] <frogonwheels> alexsarmiento: if you can press ctrl+alt+f1  and get a console - do that, login and use aptitude to downgrade your drivers.
[01:28] <frogonwheels> alexsarmiento: otherwsie, select rescue mode from the grub boot
[01:30] <buckethead> Hi guys. I've got a printing problem. Anytime I try to print from any KDE app I get "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstopdf failed" - yet printing works from firefox?
[01:32] <RadSurfer> silly Q: how best to get to 'add widget'
[01:32] <frogonwheels> RadSurfer: did you click on the palette icon?
[01:32] <buckethead> Do you see a 'cashew' looking thing in the upper right hand corner of desktop?
[01:32] <frogonwheels> RadSurfer: actually it should be at the end of the toolbar
[01:33] <buckethead> Erm, System Tray.. Haha. Came in halfway, sorry.
[01:33] <RadSurfer> ok. I found that. trying to sort out how to select it
[01:33] <RadSurfer> Ah
[01:34] <RadSurfer> well that aspect of kubuntu hasn't changed.
[01:34] <RadSurfer> I need to sort out a few things here.
[01:35] <RadSurfer> and again, thanks for helping.
[01:35] <frogonwheels> RadSurfer: np.
[01:35] <RadSurfer> would you believe I used sidux for awhile. Sidux never had its sys-tray desintegrate
[01:36] <RadSurfer> and sidux didn't annoy me with these notifications.
[01:37] <RadSurfer> I suppose, I'll have to weigh how well other tasks are performed in kubuntu :)
[01:42] <RadSurfer> OK!
[01:43] <RadSurfer> I found out what was causing my "notifications"
[01:43] <RadSurfer> For you pidgin users out there:
[01:43] <RadSurfer> There is a plugin which is turned on by default; to disable those popups when chat-window is covered, just turn of "libnotify" plugin!
[02:15] <dev001> still struggling with my 'magnum opus' upgrade to KDE 4.5.2 ppa ...  Any hints from anyone as to how to get it done, without constant "packages have been kept back" messages/conflicts?
[02:34] <apolo444> holaaaa
[02:35] <apolo444> hola
[02:35] <apolo444> hello
[02:43] <lolihunter> hello
[02:48] <apolo444> you speak spanish?
[02:48] <lolihunter> no
[02:48] <apolo444> i speak spanish
[02:48] <lolihunter> I am a Chinese
[02:57] <apolo444> sorry, i speak spanish
[06:02] <olskolirc> ok guys i just upgraded to Maverick so now where does /media/cdrom cdrom0 live?
[06:31] <bullgard4> I am using predominantly GNOME but using a KDE program also. An email requested that I "change style of my KDE widgets to something other than Oxygen (in Personal Settings->Appearance->Style)." Where to find Personal Settings->Appearance->Style?
[06:45] <DarthFrog> bullgard4: It's actually the program "systemsettings".  And it'll be "Application Appearance/Style", not Personal Settings.  But why would  an email care what widgets you use?  I would be *extremely* suspicious.
[06:56] <illunatic> anyone know where wallpaper settings are in 10.4?
[06:56] <illunatic> 04
[06:57] <lolihunter> the same to windows
[06:58] <lolihunter> just click your right button on the desk
[06:59] <illunatic> oh yeah now i remember
[06:59] <illunatic> hah
[06:59] <illunatic> thanks
[07:12] <u343> hellooo
[07:12] <olskolirc> im on maverick and my cdrom is now /dev/sr0 and there is nothing about it in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab where is my mount?  I want it back in /media/cdrom
[07:45] <bullgard4> DarthFrog: It is the developer of this KDE application program who suggested that in an email answer.
[07:46] <DarthFrog> bullgard4: OK, that's probably safe then. :-)
[07:50] <bullgard4> So far I did not install the DEB program package »systemsettings«. Installing it would further blow up storage usage just for one program.
[07:51] <DarthFrog> You don't have to install it.  It's there already.
[07:52] <DarthFrog> In the menu,  It should already be in "Favourites".
[07:52] <bullgard4> I do not understand. A file exists although the associated package is not installed?
[07:52] <DarthFrog> Or press ALT-F2 and type "systemsettings".
[07:53] <DarthFrog> It's the main utility of your system. :-)
[07:55] <DarthFrog> It's basic to Kubuntu.
[07:56] <bullgard4> ALT-F2 > "systemsettings" throws an error "location »file:///home/detlef/systemsettings« could not be displayed."
[07:57] <DarthFrog> strange.
[07:58] <DarthFrog> Do you have the kubuntu-desktop package installed?  Or just a KDE app?
[07:59] <bullgard4> DarthFrog: The DEB program package »kubuntu-desktop« is not installed.
[08:00] <DarthFrog> OK, you're in the wrong channel.  This is for Kubuntu support.  I take it you're running GNOME in Ubuntu.  You should be asking for help in #Ubuntu.
[08:01] <bullgard4> Ok.
[08:01] <DarthFrog> Or install "kubuntu-desktop" which will allow you to run KDE as well.
[08:03] <bullgard4> I will not. I will not waste 1 GB HDD storage in ordert to just use one KDE application. In Lucid this was not necessary either.
[08:03] <bullgard4> s/ordert/order/
[09:10] <sresu> I'm using KDE 4.5 now. If I upgrade Kubuntu from Lucid to Meerkat, will it affect the upgrade?
[09:22] <andrew__> hi
[10:12] <howlymowly> hi poeple...   short question:  is it somehow possible to use the KDE message indicator to automtically start kmail?  message ckeing works on my system but when I click on the message in the message indicator it just won't start kmail.
[10:41] <greenmang0> hello friends, i am running kubuntu 10.04.1 with kde 4.5.1... what i have noticed that /tmp doesn't get emptied on reboot
[10:41] <greenmang0> what can be the reason?
[10:43] <greenmang0> /etc/default/rcS has TMPTIME=0
[10:49] <thedog> hi guys, is there a way to read files from a panasonic rr-us395 recorder ?
[11:06] <JohnInChester> Good morning
[11:06] <zaizai> may i ask
[11:20] <crackstore> hye all
[11:21] <crackstore> anyone here?
[11:21] <crackstore> my kubuntu annot update and upgrade
[11:21] <crackstore> :(
[11:21] <crackstore> *cannot
[11:23] <jussi> crackstore: what happens?
[11:23] <crackstore> i dunno
[11:23] <crackstore> after i replace my dvdrom
[11:23] <crackstore> i cannot update or upgrade
[11:24] <crackstore> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.mmu.edu.my/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Unable to connect to archive.mmu.edu.my:http:
[11:24] <crackstore> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:24] <crackstore> before this ok..
[11:24] <crackstore> cool and smooth..
[11:24] <jussi> crackstore: try changing your mirror in the sources section of kpackagekit
[11:24] <crackstore> changing to where?
[11:26] <BajK> Is there a way of preventing quassel from starting more than once?
[11:27] <jussi> crackstore: choose a country/mirror close to you...
[11:27] <crackstore> jussi, oke.. i try..
[11:27] <jussi> or use the main mirror
[11:27] <BajK> so, if I enter quassel again in krunner that it just opens the current window and does not start another instance
[11:28] <crackstore> jussi, that mean.. the download from i put main server?
[11:28] <jussi> crackstore: there should be a list, choose main server
[11:29] <crackstore> jussi, yup.. have a list..
[11:29] <Peace-> hi channel
[11:29] <Peace-> l
[11:29] <crackstore> hi Peace-
[11:30] <jussi> crackstore: so yeah, select main and click apply or ok
[11:31] <crackstore> jussi, oke.. now .. package install..
[11:35] <frany> I have upgraded to maverick yesterday and the sound stopped working -- any suggestions?
[11:37] <crackstore> jussi, 99% it stuck.. :(
[11:37] <crackstore> so long..
[11:38] <Walzmyn> frany: is maverick the new one? 10.10?
[11:39] <frany> yes
[11:39] <Walzmyn> try this channel...
[11:39] <Walzmyn> !maverick
[11:39] <frany> okay, thanks
[11:39] <Walzmyn> sure
[11:42] <crackstore> why istalling package so long? that is normal?.. anyone have idea?
[11:42] <crackstore> :)
[11:43] <crackstore> after changing the download server.. installing will be stuck 99%..
[12:13] <dick> bonjour tous le monde !!!
[12:13] <Mamarok> !fr | dick
[12:19] <sebersole> is there a way to recieve an event when a laptop lid is opened or closed?  udev does not seem to handle lid events.
[12:20] <sebersole> there is '/proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state' so obviously ubuntu hooks into that correctly
[12:20] <tasslehoff> hey. back in KDE today after a time in Gnome, and I really enjoy myself :), but: is there a way to make sd-cards mount without having to visit the mount points in dolphin first?
[12:20] <tasslehoff> I just want to work with it in Konsole
[13:03] <rork> tasslehoff: you can set them to automount in System Settings > Advanced > Removable Devices
[13:04] <tasslehoff> rork: ah, thanks
[13:13] <Walzmyn> frany: tasslehoffssssssssssssssssdfffffre21`zssxcvbnm,./"?""?
[13:16] <frany> Walzmyn, what are you saying?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Hello all
[13:45] <crackstore> hye al
[13:45] <crackstore> ll
[13:45] <crackstore> :)
[13:46] <crackstore> how to read file .cap?
[14:06] <bigboss> hhi!
[14:06] <bigboss> is someone online?
[14:07] <Unksi> hi bigboss
[14:07] <bigboss> how are u?
[14:07] <Unksi> good
[14:07] <BluesKaj> !ask
[14:08] <Unksi> just got on actually :p
[14:08] <Unksi> you?
[14:08] <bigboss> do someone knows a free download site for kubuntu apps?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> quiet in here this morning
[14:09] <bazhang> bigboss, ubuntu repos
[14:09] <BluesKaj> bigboss, look in your package manager
[14:09] <bazhang> !repos > bigboss
[14:09] <methril_work> hi kubuntu devs
[14:11] <BluesKaj> methril_work, try #ubuntu+1
[14:12] <methril_work> BluesKaj, i'm trying :)
[14:12] <methril_work> thanks
[14:13] <BluesKaj> methril_work, if it's kde specific then #kde might be the place
[14:19] <bigboss> is it possible to install vlc on kubuntu?
[14:19] <moetunes> !info vlc
[14:19] <moetunes> yep
[14:20] <bigboss> can i have the deb package of vlc?
[14:20] <xeviox> I've installed the kubuntu-desktop meta package in my ubuntu setup, everything worked well, but now when I use kde and setup width / heights and position of activities on the desktop they get resetted a few seconds later, any ideas what happens?
[14:21] <bigboss> not at all
[14:25] <sebersole> is there a way to recieve an event when a laptop lid is opened or closed?  udev does not seem to handle lid events.
[14:25] <sebersole> there is '/proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state' so obviously ubuntu hooks into that correctly
[14:25] <sebersole> i've been warned lid.sh is "deprecated"
[14:29] <BluesKaj> bigbrovar, is there a specific version of vlc that someone recomended to you or is the default version in the repos/package manager not suiting your needs ?
[14:30] <sebersole> xeviox: i saw that too, just to confirm
[14:31] <sebersole> the widgets would not stay where i placed them
[14:31] <BluesKaj> oops , wrong guy and the bigboss left anyway
[14:37] <xeviox> sebersole: were you able to fix it?
[14:38] <sebersole> dunno yet
[14:38] <sebersole> i reinstalled and am working on getting other things working
[14:43] <xeviox> k
[14:43] <xeviox> sebersole: so the problem disappeared after reinstall?
[14:44] <xeviox> can someone help me to import accounts / history from pidgin into kopete?
[14:44] <sebersole> dunno yet
[14:44] <sebersole> i reinstalled and am working on getting other things working
[14:47] <xeviox> oh god, seems the install of kubuntu-desktop killed my pidgin setup :(
[14:48] <xeviox> argh that's hard *grr
[15:07] <phoenix_> how to configure the windows key to open the kmenu
[15:10] <baxeico> hi guys. will maverick have kde sc 4.5.2 by default?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> baxeico, ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:12] <baxeico> BluesKaj: kubuntu maverick is due in 4 days :)
[15:12] <sebersole> before i attempt this again...  the package i should be installing for vpnc is network-manager-vpnc-kde ??
[15:13] <phoenix_> 10/10/10
[15:13] <sebersole> haha
[15:13] <phoenix_> :)
[15:13] <sebersole> is maverik 10.10?
[15:14] <bazhang> yes
[15:14] <sebersole> too good
[15:14] <BluesKaj> baxeico, yeah, but I'm not real excited about it ...they haven't fixed lucid yet . Sure hope maverick doesn't inherit all the graphics driver and intel driver probs
[15:15] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: i think lucid is a stop-gap
[15:15] <BluesKaj> lucid is LTS
[15:16] <phoenix_> luicd is a huge step in ui and also in certain things, you have to wait
[15:16] <BluesKaj> could be why it's taking so long to fix things
[15:16] <BluesKaj> !LTS
[15:17] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: for me the driver problems with nvidia cards got solved in 10.04. i have no issue of drivers
[15:17] <phoenix_> after the last update for 10.04 the performace and very good
[15:18] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: what is your kde version
[15:18] <BluesKaj> phoenix_, consider yourself lucky .. alot of ppl are still suffering from poor support for their nVidia cards
[15:18] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: do you know that kubuntu droped support for some old hardwares
[15:18] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:19] <sebersole> ugh it bombs again
[15:19] <sebersole> does anyone use NM in KDE with vpnc?
[15:19] <sebersole> for the life of me i cannot get it to work
[15:20] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: before 10.04 , i had to reinstall by nvidia driver dor every kernel upgrade
[15:20] <sebersole> attempting to initiate the vpn just craches the kde applet
[15:20] <BluesKaj> phoenix_,I have a 5yr old pc with ati graphics which barely runs without freezing , even with desktop effects turned off.
[15:21] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: thats great. unfortunately in my friends laptop kdm crashes when i install ati drivers
[15:22] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: sorry misunderstood, thats bad
[15:23] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: linux support for ati cards is poor
[15:26] <cmagina> I am having an issue with maverick and the headphone jack on a lenovo t410s. Its a dual purpose jack, acts as a headphone and mic port. Audio works fine through the speakers, but plugging in a pair of headphones doesn't change the audio to them.
[15:27] <cmagina> And there is no audio coming out of them. Forum searching didn't show anyone having a similar issue with the t410s
[15:27] <sebersole> vpn in kubuntu, what it the recommended way?  afaict the tray thingy simply does not work.  so that leaves kvpnc and the plasma widget
[15:28] <BluesKaj> phoenix_, back in kubuntu 9.04 I had great ati support ..I could run all kinds of fancy GUI settings without probs using the fglrx driver including compiz-fusion and emerald ...it was great , I should revert :)
[15:28] <sebersole> i had good luck getting connected via kvpnc, but had dns issues
[15:28] <sebersole> and i never got the widget to work
[15:29] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: was it stable with kdm?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> phoenix_, yes ..very
[15:29] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: my friend's kdm crashes when i use fglrx
[15:30] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: but i didnt try compiz-fusion
[15:30] <BluesKaj> cmagina, check alsamixer , make sure your ctrls are unmuted and turned up
[15:30] <BluesKaj> phoenix_, which kubuntu ?
[15:31] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: i think 9.10
[15:34] <BluesKaj> sebersole, what are you trying to do , maybe a different vnc client/server?
[15:36] <sebersole> connect to a vpn
[15:36] <sebersole> actually not able to get kvpnc working now either
[15:36] <BluesKaj> sebersole, maybe you should portmap the IPs in /etc/hosts.allow  , for example under portmap list the IPs you want to have access on your network like this , ALL:192.168.x.x
[15:37] <sebersole> BluesKaj: dont follow
[15:38] <sebersole> i work remote and am trying to connect to my companies vpn
[15:38] <sebersole> which is vpnc based
[15:38] <sebersole> it works fine under gnome
[15:38] <sebersole> but i am never able to get it to work in kde
[15:39] <sebersole> in gnome it works using the nm-applet
[15:39] <sebersole> i set up the vpn/vpnc connection in nm-applet and then seelct it via the tray app to connect
[15:40] <sebersole> the same fails on kde
[15:40] <sebersole> using the kde network manager tray app thing
[15:41] <sebersole> in fedora kde they recommend users totally uninstall all kde network manager stuff
[15:41] <BluesKaj> sebersole, remove the network-manager-kde and install the gnome-network-manager ..see if that works for you
[15:41] <sebersole> and use the gnome nm-applet
[15:42] <sebersole> haha
[15:42] <sebersole> :)
[15:46] <BluesKaj> sebersole, there' no point in using apps that don't work whether they're kde or gtk ..I still prefer synaptic for app references ..I even use it sometimes
[15:48] <BluesKaj> Im using kde cuz i prefer the "look" and layout , but I'm not afraid to muse gnome apps if need be.
[15:48] <BluesKaj> err muse=use
[15:53] <volodya> sebersole: what vpn exactly? Openvpn works fine via network management applet (but I'm on maverick)
[15:54] <sebersole> vpnc
[15:55] <volodya> oh, that might be trickier that openvpn, so no further comments
[16:00] <cmagina> v@cu0l3
[16:04] <sobczyk> hi, how to connect to manually created ad hoc net? I created it in defult network manager, but it's not visible in possible connections
[16:05] <moetunes> !ics | sobczyk this might give a clue
[16:13] <sobczyk> moetunes: I know how to share, I don't know how to connect to adhoc if it's not used before
[16:14] <nasrullah> hi
[16:14] <moetunes> sobczyk:  I've tried to do that - I just know the link :]
[16:15] <nasrullah> my kmail cannot receive e-mails only sending ..why?
[16:20] <nasrullah> any help ??
[16:20] <phoenix_> nasrullah: hi
[16:20] <phoenix_> nasrullah: yahoo?
[16:20] <nasrullah> phoenix hi
[16:21] <phoenix_> nasrullah: does sending and receiving of mails works with anyother mail client?
[16:22] <nasrullah> yes
[16:22] <phoenix_> nasrullah: check to see if ssl is need for your email server
[16:22] <nasrullah> i did try but no way
[16:22] <phoenix_> nasrullah: who is the email service provider
[16:22] <nasrullah> sabily.org
[16:25] <phoenix_> nasrullah: what is the email server url?
[16:26] <nasrullah> webmail.kuwaitnet.net
[16:29] <phoenix_> nasrullah: where did you get this url?
[17:05] <tech_> hello?
[17:05] <fornitani> hi
[17:06] <tech_> anyone available to help a total linux noob?
[17:06] <fornitani> sure. what do you need?
[17:07] <tech_> i just installed kubuntu on a workstation in order to test it
[17:07] <tech_> and i wanted to install thunderbird as my email client
[17:07] <tech_> so i downloaded it
[17:07] <tech_> and then selected extract
[17:07] <tech_> but don't know how to install it!
[17:08] <fornitani> applications in linux are usually installed as "packages"
[17:08] <tech_> i've spent more time than i care to discuss looking through forums for an answer
[17:08] <fornitani> you need to go that little blue "K" in the left bottom
[17:08] <tech_> they are talking way over my heqad
[17:08] <tech_> head
[17:08] <tech_> mention of "synaptics" and other things i  apparently don't have...
[17:09] <tech_> sorry...just frustrated...
[17:09] <tech_> ok the little blue k...
[17:09] <fornitani> Well, in Kubuntu it is the "KPackagekit"
[17:09] <fornitani> After clicking the little K, type "kpack" in the search box in the upper part
[17:10] <fornitani> Can you see it?
[17:10] <tech_> ahhh ok i found the kpackagekit
[17:10] <tech_> earlier
[17:10] <tech_> and selected updates
[17:10] <tech_> which is currently running
[17:10] <tech_> it says updating packages..
[17:10] <fornitani> Hm...I guess you'll have to wait the update
[17:11] <tech_> ok just finished...now it wants a restart but that can wait
[17:11] <fornitani> ok
[17:11] <fornitani> So, in Kpackagekit, just search for "thunderbird", without quotes
[17:11] <tech_> oh wow...pages of thunderbird icons
[17:12] <fornitani> have you found it?
[17:12] <tech_> i've found pages of thunderbird icons by searching for thunderbird
[17:13] <fornitani> You need the one whose name is only "thunderbird"
[17:14] <fornitani> There's an icon, a description and underneath that a name
[17:14] <fornitani> maybe "thunderbird-de", etc
[17:14] <tech_> there isn't one
[17:14] <fornitani> You need the one named only "thunderbird"
[17:14] <tech_> ohhhhh ok i was looking at description i guess
[17:15] <fornitani> If you want a quicker, but not so quick understandable way, you can open the application "konsole" and paste this: "sudo aptitude install thunderbird
[17:15] <fornitani> " without quotes
[17:15] <tech_> ok i have 2 that say only thunderbird
[17:16] <fornitani> hm...there's a number after it, right?
[17:16] <tech_> the descriptions on both say "mail/news client with rss and integrated spam filter support"
[17:16] <fornitani> yes, that one
[17:16] <tech_> they look identical...no number
[17:16] <fornitani> hover the mouse over them
[17:17] <fornitani> mine shows "thunderbird 3.0.4...." and also "thunderbird 3.0.8..."
[17:17] <tech_> yes
[17:17] <fornitani> install the 3.0.8
[17:17] <tech_> and amd64 at the end
[17:17] <fornitani> yes
[17:18] <tech_> ok i selected it...it turned blue
[17:18] <fornitani> right, now click "apply"
[17:18] <tech_> apply is grayed out
[17:19] <tech_> wow and suddenly it "ungrayed"
[17:19] <fornitani> ah, first you need to select the arrow at the right side of the package
[17:19] <tech_> ok i clicked apply
[17:19] <tech_> it's loading
[17:19] <fornitani> =)
[17:19] <fornitani> that's it
[17:19] <fornitani> are you using kubuntu version 10.04?
[17:20] <tech_> 10.04.1 yes
[17:21] <fornitani> hm, I suggest you to install the package "software-center"
[17:21] <fornitani> it is easier to understand than the Kpackage version that ships with kubuntu 10.04
[17:21] <tech_> i love the idea of linux in general & i would like to migrate away from windows eventually but i run a network here & cannot migrate until i fully understand this OS
[17:22] <tech_> software-center? what does it do?
[17:22] <fornitani> it is also a way to install those "packages" (applications), but is easier to understand, many say
[17:23] <fornitani> So it will free you time to discover important things, other than waste time finding out how to install something =)
[17:24] <tech_> thank you!
[17:24] <fornitani> You're welcome! =)
[17:24] <tech_> btw it currently says "simulating the install...loading cache"
[17:24] <fornitani> I'm glad I could help, this is my very first time here at kubuntu irc
[17:25] <tech_> wow really? me too
[17:25] <fornitani> Hm, I'm afraid I can't help at this message, I've never seen it
[17:25] <fornitani> There's not some kind of time counter, etc?
[17:26] <fornitani> Maybe if you wait a bit it will disappear
[17:26] <tech_> i was getting frustrated...i didn't have time to read through the forums for hours
[17:27] <tech_> yes it seems to be progressing
[17:28] <fornitani> Yes, at first it was a little frustrating for me too. But now I use Ubuntu/Kubuntu for more than 2 years and can use it with (almost) no problems
[17:29] <tech_> i know it just takes awhile to learn a new system
[17:29] <tech_> it took me awhile to learn windows years ago too
[17:30] <fornitani> Hm, maybe all systems are easier nowadays, even Windows
[17:31] <fornitani> But I think Linux (especially Ubuntu and similars) has become easier than others OSes
[17:31] <tech_> i installed regular ubuntu on my laptop at home but i have not had any time to explore it so i installed kubuntu on this workstation here at work so i'll have more time to learn it
[17:31] <tech_> once i become familiar w it i want to install the server version & test that as well
[17:31] <fornitani> Yes, the learning curve is minimal. You just need to adapt to where to find menus and such things
[17:32] <fornitani> Installation of programs, etc is a lot easier than windows
[17:32] <fornitani> No viruses and such trouble, also =)
[17:34] <tech_> i am searching for software center now
[17:35] <tech_> wow really?
[17:35] <tech_> i was wondering about that
[17:35] <tech_> i wondered which AV software to run on this machine
[17:38] <fornitani> there's no need to run those because of the security system (you need to allow the program to do something, typing your password. Also, the programs are usually downloaded from oficial sources - like the one you've just downloaded)
[17:47] <tech_> that's good news
[17:47] <Neurotrophin> Where does Quassel store its IRC chat logs?
[17:47] <Neurotrophin> Konversation let you get them from a menu option..
[17:47] <BluesKaj> !logs
[17:51] <Neurotrophin> BluesKaj: thanks.. that's really useful
[17:51] <mfraz74> http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/projects/1/wiki/Quassel_Logging
[17:52] <BluesKaj> Neurotrophin, I've used them to find a command from a previous visit which I forgot to copy to my cli text file
[17:53] <Neurotrophin> BluesKaj: sure.. actually, I am working on a chatbot script for kubuntu trouble resolution and need example problems w/ conversations..
[17:54] <Neurotrophin> at http://thinkmosaic.com  -- I have different little test script in there every day..  so it's a different personality every day.. almost blank, at present.
[17:54] <Neurotrophin> when done, it will be wiki-like, you can chat a bit.. if you don't like it's responses then you can click on Edit to edit its logic..
[17:55] <Neurotrophin> like wikipedia, ony conversation topics instead of articles
[17:56] <BluesKaj> well, be prepared to do some editing then because some of the advice isn't accurate :)
[18:01] <yhtomit> hey everyone... anyone know what happened to kdevelop?
[18:01] <yhtomit> is it just me or is it no longer in the repos?
[18:03] <jbrouhard> hey folks.. where is the Update manager in kubuntu 8.04 ?  I totally forgot where it was as I haven't used Kubuntu in a while..
[18:13] <altrortla> need help ... trying kubuntu 10.04 on a thinkcentre 8183-cto after a while black screen appears and nothing is possible to do... after few attempt (using F6 option ... i have disabled all option) live CD starts, but when it finish to charge the services restart to charge service again ... i don't know what it is
[18:15] <altrortla> no tips?
[18:19] <fornitani> You can disable apic, using the boot option "noapic"
[18:19] <fornitani> I don't remember well, but I think the first screen of the live CD offers the "other boot options"
[18:20] <fornitani> There's start Kubuntu, install, etc
[18:20] <altrortla> yes there's
[18:20] <altrortla> i've just try to install
[18:20] <fornitani> Try booting with those other options
[18:20] <altrortla> ok
[18:21] <fornitani> IF everything works, you cand run in liveCD mode and then install
[18:22] <altrortla> yes ... it goes in liveCD but 1) black screen 2) and reboot service and then 1) and then 2) continuosly
[18:25] <fornitani> maybe a burning problem at the CD...if you have the .iso, you can make a liveUSB
[18:25] <dasKreech> Can.. curses. Gone
[18:27] <haxd4x> awfully quite..
[18:27] <haxd4x> quiet*
[18:29] <AltrortlA> I have set noapci but the result is the same
[18:29]  * dasKreech sets up somebody the bomb
[18:31] <fornitani> Weird..is there more than one HD or something similar?
[18:32] <fornitani> Once I had problems installing because of the router. Then I disconnected its cables and tried again and everything went smoothly =)
[18:32] <AltrortlA> fornitani: no, a single HD but a read somewhere that there's some setting for IBM and Thinkcentre
[18:33] <AltrortlA> fornitani: and then PC is stand alone
[18:34] <AltrortlA> fornitani: this also contains kubuntu 7.10, but now is time to adjourn
[18:35] <fornitani> Hm, I'm searching something about it. Let's see if I can find some useful tip...just a sec =)
[18:37] <AltrortlA> ok
[18:38] <johannes_> hi, is there a list of services I can announce with avahi?
[18:49] <dasKreech> johannes_: Hmm?
[18:50] <neha__> Is it possible to play two songs, where one songs sound is directed to head phones and another's to speaker.
[18:50] <johannes_> daap or .local .smb .afp seem to be possible but what else?
[18:51] <fornitani> AltrortlA: sorry, but untill now, I haven't found anything useful :(
[18:51] <dasKreech> neha__: with Pulseaudio (in theory) yes
[18:53] <fornitani> neha__: try setting pavucontrol up
[18:54] <neha__> fornitani: where to find thee control
[18:57] <neha__> dasKreech: thanks, in case if you already have any links on how to do it, please post it here.
[18:58] <fornitani_> neha__: sudo aptitude install pavucontrol   , and then run pavucontrol on konsole
[18:58] <fornitani_> neha__: you need also to have phonon-backend-gstreamer / pulseaudio, if I am right
[19:02] <neha__> fornitani_: done, but where to do the configuration
 in the tab "output devices", then try changing devices, etc. Be careful, though =)
[19:03] <science> Hi
[19:03] <science> Testing
[19:04] <science> :/
[19:04] <science> i <3 Ubuntu
 you may use two separate players, then order each to use different outputs
[19:15] <neha__> fornitani_: thanks, i all do it when i go home.
[19:17] <fornitani_> neha__: hope it works =)
[19:56] <effie_jayx> hello all
[19:56] <effie_jayx> just upgrade to kubuntu 10.10 netbook edition
[19:57] <effie_jayx> I have an issue with knetworkmanager not showing up in the system tray
[19:57] <effie_jayx> is this the right channel for that kind of support?
[19:57] <effie_jayx> or is there a #kubuntu+1?
[20:00] <drbobb> hello, is there something broken about kde's network manager applet?
[20:00] <drbobb> I have both gnome & kde installed (Lucid), and my wifi comes up fine under gnome, but not with kde
[20:01] <effie_jayx> anyone else having the same issue in maverick
[20:02] <effie_jayx> #kubuntu+1
[20:02] <Pici> effie_jayx: #ubuntu+1 is the proper channel for all Maverick issues.
[20:04] <effie_jayx> Pici: eventhough it is a kde issue?
[20:04] <Pici> effie_jayx: Yes.
[20:04] <effie_jayx> thanks
[20:11] <Glade> Hi, this is maybe not the best place to ask, but if anyone can help, that would be great... I upgraded to kubuntu 10.10 rc just now, and now when I tried wine, all my previously working windows games stopped working
[20:11] <Glade> All say "insert game cd" or something
[20:11] <Glade> previously I had arranged them all so I could play them straight off the hard drive, worked fine in 10.04
[20:11] <Glade> Is this more of a wine thing? A changed setting somewhere? Or something that let cd checks work in previous versions but now changed?
[20:40] <Renovatio> hi there, does anybody know why k3b doesn't find 'normalize-audio' altought it is correctly installed?
[21:03] <rork_> Glade: questions about 10.10 can be asked in #ubuntu+1, you may also try at the wine channel ofcourse
[21:19] <drbobb> what do I need to install in order to activate support for Java applets in rekonq?
[21:22] <drbobb> will kubuntu-restricted-extras do the trick?
[21:25] <BluesKaj> drbobb, yes it should
[21:26] <drbobb> BluesKaj: thx, I'll find out in a moment - when the install is done :)
[21:26] <BluesKaj> drbobb, altho I haven't tried rekonq in a while
[21:27] <drbobb> it looks pretty slick
[21:28] <drbobb> but no, applets seem not to work
[21:28] <drbobb> java support is checked in settings of course
[21:30] <drbobb> and no obvious way in sight to find out what went wrong
[21:32] <drbobb> yeah and that's one thing I hate about a lot of modern software:
[21:33] <drbobb> there's a tendency to make stuff fail silently, and provide no diagnostics
[21:40] <dasKreech> drbobb: Actually jump in #rekonq and poke them about java
[21:41] <drbobb> ah there's a #rekonq - good news
[21:41] <FlameTai1> Can someone help me? I'm trying to install Kubuntu-desktop but it's saying it needs certain repositories to be added and enabled?
[21:42] <dasKreech> FlameTai1: can you pastebin that?
[21:43] <FlameTai1> dasKreech: http://pastebin.org/64869
[21:43] <FlameTai1> ?
[21:43] <FlameTai1> lol
[21:44] <dasKreech> FlameTai1: :-) Wrong!!!
[21:44] <FlameTai1> .....LOL
[21:44] <dasKreech> FlameTai1: http://pastebin.org/64893
[21:45] <FlameTai1> dasKreech: You are so confusing me!!!! lol.
[21:46] <dasKreech> FlameTai1: What's the error you are getting can you pastebin that error?
[21:47] <FlameTai1> Yeah one sec
[21:47] <FlameTai1> Give me a few it's on my friends laptop and he's installing ubuntu-netbook right now
[21:51] <FlameTai1> dasKreech: Nvm there were a few package files we were missing
[21:52] <dasKreech> Uh huh :)
[21:52] <dasKreech> :)
[21:52] <FlameTai1> Shush xD
[21:59] <drbobb> is there a metapackage I need to install in order to try out the kubuntu netbook interface?
[21:59] <drbobb> along the lines of kubuntu-desktop etc.
[22:01] <drbobb> kubuntu-plasma-netbook?
[22:04] <markit> hi, any hope that 10.04 will have 4.5.2 pakages and future 4.5.x upgrades? I don't want to upgrade to 10.10 in my ltsp server just to upgrade KDE
[22:04] <markit> but I would love to have fixes
[22:09] <dasKreech> markit: I think officially currently it's no. But they don't have any restrictions of someone bringin them to 10.04
[22:10] <dasKreech> Someone does have working KDE3 packages on 10.04 for example
[22:10] <markit> dasKreech: I know, but I'm not able to do, and would love to be "ufficially" supported for sercurity reasons
[22:10] <markit> (trusted source)
[22:10] <dasKreech> :-)
[22:10] <dasKreech> In theory the 4.5.2 would be "unofficial" in any case
[22:11] <markit> sure,but more official than "mr. unknown" ones :)
[22:12] <dasKreech> The "mr Unknown" ones are quite likely to be the same guys doing it
[22:13] <dasKreech> If you would like to see if you can help at least jump in to #kubuntu-devel and see if anyone is interested in having it happen
[22:14] <markit> dasKreech: I'm going to sleep now, I feel bad (cold), but I will try tomorrow, thanks for the tip
[22:20] <dasKreech> Mamarok: ok
[22:20] <dasKreech> Whoops
[23:21] <iNfRaC00L> What could be wrong with my KMix? It's only volume-bar there while I know there were more; for pcm, line-in, mic....
[23:22] <iNfRaC00L> Now it says that device is Internal Audio Analog Stereo but it should be Intel HDA Audio
[23:23] <iNfRaC00L> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/6hQszGc1
[23:23] <iNfRaC00L> I have sound (system, movies, flash) but I need other controls as well.  Is there a way I could make KMix to reconfigure itself, or should I purge- reinstall it?
[23:24] <Se7en> iNfRaC00L: are you using ALSA ?
[23:25] <dasKreech> iNfRaC00L: I have two machines one won't work with internal Audio Analog the other only supports the real sound card
[23:25] <dasKreech>  kinda strange :)
[23:25] <iNfRaC00L> it says Pulse  Audio Sound  System
[23:25] <iNfRaC00L> but i have some alsa stuff installed
[23:26] <iNfRaC00L> I don't know how it happened ... maybe wine
[23:27] <iNfRaC00L> restarting is no cure
[23:27] <Se7en> iNfRaC00L: try ALSA instead
[23:28] <Se7en> I didnt mean installing ALSA I meant using ALSA as your sound plugin instead os PulseAudio
[23:28] <iNfRaC00L> but I cannot choose
[23:29] <iNfRaC00L> it's  only Pulse there
[23:29] <Se7en> open up the Terminal and enter alsamixer
[23:29] <iNfRaC00L> that seems to be ok
[23:30] <iNfRaC00L> there is  PCM, MIC ,LINE
[23:30] <Se7en> is that what you need to see ?
[23:30] <iNfRaC00L> yes
[23:30] <Se7en> alright then
[23:30] <iNfRaC00L> well thanx
[23:31] <Se7en> anytime
[23:31] <iNfRaC00L> so i guess KMix is history for now
[23:32] <Se7en> you actually CAN restore the controls to it by choosing ALSA as your plugin (I think )
[23:33] <Se7en> not sure how to do that in Kubuntu though
[23:33] <Se7en> System:    Host ViperousVirus Kernel 2.6.31-14-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Linux Mint 8 Helena - Main Edition
[23:33] <djustice> if the kcm doesnt list alsa, and only pulse, i think that might be a missing phonon-alsa or sth.
[23:33]  * Se7en shrugs
[23:33] <iNfRaC00L> checking..
[23:43] <iNfRaC00L> couldn't find phonon-alsa or similar. phonon is installed. do you think dpkg --reconfigure alsa might help?
[23:47] <iNfRaC00L> no, that doesn't exist :D
[23:47] <Se7en> iNfRaC00L: checking my Mint KDE box for you
[23:52] <iNfRaC00L> i appreciate
[23:59] <Se7en> iNfRaC00L: this may sound a bit obvious but .. have you check the : Sound notification icon > Mixer >Settings > Configure Channels ?
[23:59]  * Se7en has to get more familiar wth KDE