[00:02] <penguin42> ledbettj: What graphics hardware?
[00:05] <ledbettj> @penguin: it's an radeon with KMS
[00:06] <penguin42> which one? Open or closed drivers (I assume open from the KMS?)
[00:06] <ledbettj> yeah, the open source radeon driver
[00:08] <penguin42> ledbettj: Hmm I've not tried Unity on mine; you could try running the xorg-edgers bleeding edge X packages and see if it helps at all
[00:09] <dev001> Hi.  I'm doing a 1st ppa-based update to a Kubuntu/Maverick rc install.  Trying to grab the 'new' KDE 4.5.2 pkgs @ "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu maverick  main", after 'apt-get update', I'd expect to see *lots* of offered pkg updates by 'apt-get upgrade'.  Atm, I only see a couple ~ 30MB worth ...  Is there additional prioritization, or some such, required?  Still newish to [K]ubuntu
[00:13] <olskolirc> where can i get the maverick download please?
[00:13] <Ian_corne> http://ubuntu.rave.org
[00:13] <drbobb> ok so I overcame all the hurdles in installing a working copy of maverick rc. unfortunately, my wifi interface no longer works under maverick :(
[00:13] <penguin42> olskolirc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview#Get Ubuntu 10.10
[00:14] <penguin42> drbobb: What were the problems, what did you have to do to fix it, and what wireless is it?
[00:14] <olskolirc> actually, i wanted the kubuntu version a link for that please?
[00:15] <grip> Hello all
[00:15] <KukuNut> dev001: there should be at least 148
[00:15] <drbobb> penguin42: BCM4318
[00:15] <drbobb> and I was not able to fix it
[00:15] <penguin42> olskolirc: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MaverickMeerkat/RC/Kubuntu
[00:15] <olskolirc> ty penguin42
[00:15] <drbobb> I tried replacing the default driver, b43
[00:16] <drbobb> and using ndiswrapper instead
[00:16] <penguin42> drbobb: Have you installed the firmware-b43-installer package?
[00:16] <drbobb> this worked in lucid, but not anymore
[00:16] <dev001> KukuNut: hm.  I'm just seeing this ... http://pastebin.com/sm5n1BgJ
[00:16] <penguin42> drbobb: Tried these? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[00:17] <drbobb> penguin42: actually I pulled in a copy of the firmware from my lucid install
[00:17] <grip> How is the xorg working with the gforce 218gt 310m.I could not get this to work in 10.4
[00:17] <drbobb> not much else I can do since I don't have a working network interface
[00:17] <drbobb> dmesg shows that the firmware is loaded successfully
[00:18] <drbobb> but the link never comes up
[00:18] <KukuNut> dev001: not sure why
[00:19] <KukuNut> dev001: it doesn't look like from the konsole?
[00:20] <drbobb> penguin42: the STA driver suggested in the doc you pointed to does not support my chi[
[00:20] <drbobb> chip
[00:20] <penguin42> ah
[00:20] <drbobb> and b43 + fwcutter did not work for me in lucid, either
[00:21] <dev001> KukuNut: sorry, not sure what you're asking ...
[00:21] <drbobb> i need a new laptop :( support for my h/w has been regressing in ubuntu with each version
[00:22] <KukuNut> dev001: your paste doesn't tell me much
[00:23] <drbobb> i know how to activate ndiswrapper, have done it lots of times before. this time it loads with no errors, it just doesn't work.
[00:23] <dev001> KukuNut: doesn't tell me much either.  that's all that konsole produced.  here are my repos, fwiw
[00:23] <dev001> do these look right to you? --> http://pastebin.com/4TZCGGcD
[00:25] <KukuNut> dev001: seems ok
[00:26] <dev001> KukuNut: thx.  no clue why i'm not getting more ... still digging
[00:29] <drbobb> well guess I'll just have to stick with lucid until i get a new laptop. bugger
[00:32] <Dragon64> anyone in here having iussues with Radeon  card and installing 10.10
[00:35] <krabador> where i can look at changes between daily live cds?
[00:41] <papertigers> anyone using a macbook pro unibody for 10.10
[00:48] <Pr070cal> im having big problems with the nvidia gl driver
[00:52] <penguin42> Dragon64 (if you are still here) what card?
[01:02] <BUGabundo> this big boy, is going to shave at 1am and then bed... or maybe the hospital for taking an ear off . nite
[01:04] <penguin42> ?
[01:43] <myk_robinson> anyone else having issue with Brasero burning REAL slow in Maverick?
[01:44] <BlaDe^> Hi guys, I'm having an issue with my GUI: http://i55.tinypic.com/3142w3s.png  -- some things randomly get bugged and stay there (Like the applications menu in that picture)
[01:44] <rusivi> myk_robinson I purposely burn CDs on the slowest speed to minimize error possibilities.
[01:45] <BlaDe^> the only way i've found to get rid of it is to logout/in or a restart
[01:45] <Pr070cal> back again cant get round this nvidia glx problem
[01:45] <myk_robinson> rusivi: Understand that, but I sure would like to burn my dvd's at 8 speed instead of 1.0 and lower :(
[01:46] <Pr070cal> edited xorg.conf after a nvidia-xconfig and added in the resolution 800x600 but it didnt boot to login no error on dmesg
[01:46] <myk_robinson> cd's are acceptable, burning at about 16x
[01:46] <myk_robinson> but dvds creep
[01:48] <BlaDe^> anyone have any ideas about my problem?
[01:49] <reynet-server> hey guys :) Just did an update on 10.10 RC, can anyone tell me how to get Samba back on? I'm using webmin and it won't re-install
[01:50] <reynet-server> can't get samba to re-install on it's own either
[01:50] <reynet-server> Got this :   samba : Depends: samba-common (= 2:3.5.4~dfsg-1ubuntu8) but 2:3.5.4~dfsg-1ubuntu7 is to be installed E: Broken packages
[01:50] <reynet-server> will there be an update of samba to fix it?
[01:52] <reynet-server> never mind, package update fixed it
[01:58] <Pr070cal> cant get nvidia glx drivers working just hangs now
[01:58] <Pr070cal> changed xorg.conf to 800x600
[01:58] <Pr070cal> plz help :)
[02:00] <philsf> everytime I boot, I have to turn the bluetooth off in the indicator applet to conserve power. Is there a way to only turn it on when I want to use it? I'd like it to remember my last choice
[02:04] <Daekdroom> philsf, System > Preferences > Bluetooth > Show Bluetooth tray icon (or something like that), unmark it.
[02:04] <Daekdroom> But that itself is unlikely to conserve power because it doesn't turn off bluetooth, actually
[02:04] <philsf> Daekdroom, I don't want to hide the applet, I want to turn the device off
[02:05] <philsf> Daekdroom, the applet menu has an entry to turn it off, it just doesn't honor the choice after a boot
[02:42] <kusanagi> hi, my computer wont boot up...
[02:42] <kusanagi> ive read the forums without luck :S
[02:42] <kusanagi> can anybody help me troobleshooting_
[02:42] <kusanagi> ?
[02:42] <Ken8521> kusanagi, well "won't boot up" is very descriptive..
[02:42] <Ken8521> let me google "Won't boot up" problems
[02:43] <Volkodav> does it POST ?
[02:43] <kusanagi> Ken8521, for maverick you will get plenty of results :)
[02:43] <kusanagi> yep Volkodav
[02:43] <Ken8521> do you get grub?
[02:43] <kusanagi> let me paste syslog somewhere
[02:43] <kusanagi> yep
[02:43] <Ken8521> ok, so the problem is after grub.
[02:44] <kusanagi> yep
[02:44] <Ken8521> youd on't et an error message, it just freezes up and doesn't boot
[02:44] <kusanagi> monitor goes power save in vty 7
[02:45] <Ken8521> u have ATI?
[02:45] <Volkodav> tried recovery mode ?
[02:45] <kusanagi> in vty 1 it get stuck with lots of lines like this Oct  5 17:47:21 tachikoma kernel: [   13.653830] hda-intel: spurious response 0x400101:0x0, last cmd=0x1f0500
[02:46] <kusanagi> no Ken8521, ive got geforce 8400 GS... thats why those "wont bootup" dont seem like mine
[02:46] <Volkodav> does it boot from live CD ?
[02:46] <Ken8521> kusanagi, did you use envy to install the nvidia driver?
[02:46] <kusanagi> yeah, ive tried to start all the kernles availables (.35 both recovery and normal and .32) same results
[02:47] <kusanagi> Ken8521, i upgrades from 10.04
[02:47] <kusanagi> Volkodav, im in a live cd right now
[02:47] <Ken8521> kusanagi, ok.. did you use envy to install the nvidia graphics under 10.04
[02:48] <kusanagi> mmm dont know what envy is... i had the propietary driver installed tho
[02:48] <kusanagi> http://pastebin.com/7c3qskXC
[02:48] <kusanagi> and this is the syslog
[02:49] <Ken8521> doesn't Ubuntu suggest, when you use the proprietary driver, that you uninstall it, before upgrading?
[02:49] <kusanagi> i read that today Ken8521 :S
[02:49] <Ken8521> ....
[02:49] <kusanagi> i didnt uninstall it :(
[02:50] <Ken8521> i'd be willing to bet that's the issue.
[02:50] <Ken8521> i'd backup and clean install 10.10(which is what iwould have done in the first place to be truthful)
[02:50] <Volkodav> can you chroot in the install ?
[02:50] <kusanagi> i havent try Volkodav, but i guess i can
[02:51] <kusanagi> what to do after that?
[02:51] <Volkodav> I would do fsck first , then chroot and try to upgrade the system and see what happens
[02:52] <kusanagi> Volkodav, i already fsck
[02:52] <kusanagi> try to upgrade you mean apt-get update and aptitude safe-upgrade?
[02:53] <Volkodav> then chroot and run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:56] <kusanagi> shiz... i had /var/cache/apt/archives/ mounted on another hd
[02:56] <kusanagi> this is gonna take a while...
[02:56] <kusanagi> x)
[02:57] <Ken8521> hopefully it works
[02:57] <kusanagi> yep :D
[02:58] <kusanagi> just to understand why this could work let me ask u a question
[02:59] <kusanagi> once ubuntu releases the rc, the iso wont change till the final release?
[02:59] <kusanagi> the rc i downloaded yesterday is the same iso that they first released?
[03:00] <philsf> kusanagi, probably not, because they have to remove the strings "devel" from grub conf, and /etc/issue
[03:00] <philsf> and update the lsb info
[03:01] <philsf> but other than cosmetic changes, they should be the same, AFAICT
[03:01] <kusanagi> so maybe the problem is solved in the repositories and not in the rc?
[03:02] <philsf> kusanagi, what repositorues?
[03:03] <philsf> the rc  is *in* the repositories
[03:03] <kusanagi> mavericks'
[03:03] <kusanagi> uhm
[03:03] <kusanagi> when i say rc i mean rc iso
[03:04] <trism> kusanagi: the iso has already been updated since the rc
[03:05] <kusanagi> ok
[03:05] <kusanagi> :)
[03:06] <kusanagi> i am going to try that
[03:09] <kusanagi> ok, upgrading :)
[03:10] <kusanagi> when it finish, do i try to bootup again or do i do anything else first?
[03:11] <kusanagi> wrong shortcut :S
[03:12] <kusanagi> the installation says all the time "error in Version string '3.1.4-57640_Ubuntu_karmic': invalid character in revision number"
[03:12] <Volkodav> kusanagi: reboot after upgrade
[03:13] <Ken8521> karmic?
[03:13] <kusanagi> yeah its werid
[03:13] <kusanagi> it also say jaunty in some errors
[03:13] <Ken8521> oh ok.
[03:14] <Ken8521> was just about to ask if you were trying to go 9.10 - 10.10
[03:14] <kusanagi> nop :S
[03:14] <kusanagi> but i did had all those in here
[03:14] <kusanagi> i know, this need a clean install
[03:14] <Ken8521> yeah.. sure sounds it.
[03:14] <kusanagi> but i cant do it now
[03:14] <Ken8521> somethin got wonked up
[03:15] <kusanagi> ok, done
[03:15] <Ken8521> you at the very least(if you have an external hard drive or maybe even a large thumb drive) could probably back up your home on that drive.
[03:15] <kusanagi> wish me luck :D
[03:15] <Ken8521> good luck :)
[03:15] <kusanagi> u have /home in another partition
[03:16] <kusanagi> i could fresh install and forget about it
[03:16] <kusanagi> but i dont have the time now
[03:17] <kusanagi> (do i have the time for this you may ask, the answer is no... i updated out of foolness)
[03:17] <kusanagi> lol
[03:17] <kusanagi> brb
[03:24] <kusanagi> :(
[03:24] <kusanagi> same problem
[03:24] <kusanagi> http://pastebin.com/g8Uf9tw
[03:24] <kusanagi> this is the syslog
[03:25] <kusanagi> since its probably the graphics card... is there a way to use the nv driver?
[03:27] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: that link didn't work for me
[03:27] <kusanagi> http://pastebin.com/g8Uf9tww
[03:27] <kusanagi> sorry ChogyDan, i missed the last w
[03:28] <ChogyDan> got it  :)
[03:28] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: so you aren't able to boot at all?
[03:28] <kusanagi> thanks for watching ChogyDan :)
[03:29] <kusanagi> i dont know what else could i paste to get the problem
[03:29] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: sorry, I missed what the problem was originally
[03:29] <Ken8521> borked upgrade
[03:30] <kusanagi> i upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10
[03:30] <kusanagi> now it wont boot up
[03:30] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: how far does it boot?
[03:30] <kusanagi> screen in vty7 goes energy saving mode
[03:31] <kusanagi> after grub
[03:31] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: can you get to any of the other ttys?
[03:31] <kusanagi> that syslog i pasted is all from the last boot
[03:31] <kusanagi> yep
[03:31] <kusanagi> vty1 is stuck
[03:31] <ChogyDan> stuck?
[03:31] <kusanagi> i googled the errors without luck
[03:31] <kusanagi> frozen
[03:32] <kusanagi> frozen at sec 13 or so
[03:33] <ChogyDan> I don't see the nvidia error, I just see the audio errors
[03:33] <kusanagi> yeah, me2
[03:33] <kusanagi> :( thats why i dont know what to do
[03:33] <kusanagi> any other log that could be of any help?
[03:33] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: can you boot with recovery mode?
[03:33] <kusanagi> it does the same thing
[03:33] <kusanagi> in recovery mode
[03:34] <ChogyDan> have you tried different kernels?
[03:35] <kusanagi> yep
[03:35] <kusanagi> i have 2
[03:35] <kusanagi> .35 and .32
[03:35] <kusanagi> i tried to boot both modes in both kernels
[03:35] <kusanagi> same errors
[03:36] <kusanagi> is there a way to disable the propietary driver and try nv?
[03:36] <ChogyDan> wow, so the terminal will freeze, even in recovery mode?  and even on an old kernel?
[03:36] <kusanagi> just for the sake of trying
[03:36] <kusanagi> yep
[03:36] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: recovery mode should disable the graphics in the first place I think
[03:36] <kusanagi> oh :S
[03:37] <kusanagi> last thing i tried was chroot and apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:37] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: how did that go?
[03:37] <kusanagi> it upgraded some packages (none really related at first sight)
[03:38] <kusanagi> and same thing
[03:38] <ChogyDan> hmmm, but a livecd works?
[03:39] <kusanagi> yup
[03:40] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: outside of my knowledge.  I would just make a new partition, and install to that, see how that goes
[03:41] <kusanagi> i guess i could try a fresh installation on /
[03:41] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: maybe a package got corrupted or something
[03:41] <kusanagi> i checked md5
[03:42] <kusanagi> i made a live cd with unetbootin and 10.10 and wont live usb from there
[03:42] <kusanagi> dont know why
[03:42] <kusanagi> should i try fresh install with 10.10 or 10.04?
[03:44] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: you could try debsums, to check for corrupted files
[03:46] <kusanagi> dont know how to do that ChogyDan :(
[03:46] <kusanagi> i am just going to fres install 10.04
[03:46] <kusanagi> to /
[03:46] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: ok, fyi, I think the command is `debsums -s -a`
[03:46] <kusanagi> and what does that do?
[03:47] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: it checks the checksums of all the files from your packages
[03:47] <kusanagi> chroot and do that?
[03:47] <kusanagi> i can do that
[03:47] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: yeah, it will take awhile though
[03:47] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: http://arthurdejong.org/recovery.html
[03:47] <kusanagi> yeah, im readin that page
[03:47] <Ken8521> any luck?
[03:48] <kusanagi> but i dont know if im tired or what, but i dont understand
[03:48] <kusanagi> u.U
[03:48] <kusanagi> not really Ken8521 :S
[03:49] <ChogyDan> kusanagi: well, I think each package has like an md5sum for each of the files that it installs, so debsums compares the md5 listed in the package with the actual md5 of the file
[03:49] <ChogyDan> thus, if a file is changed, debsums will detect the change
[03:49] <kusanagi> ill try that
[03:49] <kusanagi> but i guess apt-get already do that when install, doesnt it?
[03:50] <ChogyDan> ?
[03:50] <kusanagi> mmm, maybe not
[03:50] <kusanagi> haha
[04:12] <|ns|nR8> lucent, latest update fixed the bug where it wouldnt remember refresh rate
[04:14] <|ns|nR8> just had to tell someone
[04:14] <|ns|nR8> just need /dev/dsp to appear now and im happy
[04:18] <lucent> |ns|nR8: glad to hear that
[04:20] <|ns|nR8> i use darkice to stream police radio to friends
[04:20] <|ns|nR8> it needs /dev/dsp tho
[04:27] <lucent> |ns|nR8: nothing provides /dev/dsp, you know
[04:27] <dev001> I'm upgrading 10.10/powerpc's KDE -> 4.5.2 @ http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main.
[04:27] <dev001> But, there's a very significant difference in what's in the powerpc vs. 'officially supported' arch Package lists: .../binary-amd64/Packages 05-Oct-2010 15:42 --> 418K,    versus, .../binary-powerpc/Packages 05-Oct-2010 15:42 --> 89K.
[04:27] <dev001>  Is that likely just a propagation issue?  or a repo build problem?
[04:27] <lucent> |ns|nR8: there's aoss and then use LD_PRELOAD to intercept calls to use /dev/dsp
[04:28] <|ns|nR8> hmm...well /dev/dsp was present in 10.04
[04:28] <|ns|nR8> now it isnt
[04:28] <|ns|nR8> and darkice isnt working
[04:28] <lucent> /dev/dsp is fail
[04:28] <lucent> use JACK or ALSA
[04:28] <|ns|nR8> so what should i change this to
[04:28] <|ns|nR8> device          = /dev/dsp  # OSS DSP soundcard device for the audio input
[04:31] <|ns|nR8> it captures the microphone input on soundcard
[04:32] <|ns|nR8> unless i get a different icecast client
[04:32] <|ns|nR8> is it only my install that doesnt have dsp lucent ?
[04:33] <|ns|nR8> does your install have it ?
[04:33] <|ns|nR8> or is it every 10.10
[04:34] <|ns|nR8> ls /dev/dsp
[04:34] <|ns|nR8> ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[04:35] <lucent> |ns|nR8: nothing I have uses /dev/dsp
[04:36] <lucent> find an icecast client that works with jack
[04:36] <lucent> setup jack
[04:37] <|ns|nR8> thanks
[04:37] <|ns|nR8> back later, gotta go for minor surgery
[04:44] <JoeBob44> Does anyone have any idea why my NETBOOK WIRELESS is sluggish (as in it takes forever to connect to a network) on 10.10 Desktop Distro?
[05:00] <wolter> hi, after I updated my ubuntu, my apache server is no longer reachable from the computers in my network :S
[05:00] <wolter> any ideas?
[05:00] <Edward_Elric> wolter, read the logs first
[05:00] <wolter> also, my samba server is not working
[05:00] <wolter> which logs?
[05:01] <Edward_Elric> the apache logs
[05:01] <Edward_Elric> or the configuration files of respective package
[05:02] <wolter> well, during the update i was asked if i wanted to replace my configuration with a new one, and i did but i fixed the new one
[05:02] <wolter> i can access my server from the host computer
[05:03] <wolter> but the others can't, like if there was some local dns problem
[05:05] <bullgard4> In https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=247183 I find: "Status: RESOLVED; Resolution: WAITINGFORINFO." How can one wait for an info if the status of a bug is "RESOLVED"?
[06:56] <ChrisBuchholz> Is it possible to get the Unity Application Menu from the netbook edition on desktop edition?
[07:08] <olskolirc> im on maverick and my cdrom is now /dev/sr0 and there is nothing about it in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab where is my mount?  I want it back in /media/cdrom
[07:21] <starnostar> yes prince jammys
[07:21] <starnostar> should the maverick beta be checking my disk on every boot
[07:21] <starnostar> vanilla fstab, ext3 filesystem
[07:22] <starnostar> is this a property of the beta? I have never used a beta ubuntu before
[07:45] <olskolirc> anyone on maverick?  i need to know what to put in /etc/fstab so that I can get /dev/sr0 to mount in /media/(no cdrom)
[08:36] <Hukka> After a reboot, my second screen started to flicker. Based on xrandr, the frequency is 50Hz, based on the monitor OSD, it's 60Hz
[08:36] <Hukka> Haven't had flicker before, no idea what refresh rate it's been using
[09:11] <sresu> Will Kubuntu come with KDE 4.5 in Meerkat?
[09:12] <SaRy> sresu, Yup.
[09:12] <sresu> SaRy, I'm using KDE 4.5 in Lucid already. Will that affect the upgrade?
[09:13] <SaRy> in maverick beta it's 4.5.1 ..
[09:14] <SaRy> 4 days for the final release .. so it may go to 4.5.2 .. maybe !
[09:14] <sresu> SaRy: Agreed, but as I'm already using KDE 4.5.1 as the platform version then will upgrade process be affected? Should I untick the backport link from the package manager?
[09:15] <SaRy> oh , that am not sure about.
[09:16] <sresu> SaRy: Umm.. thanks anyways
[09:23] <bullgard4> '~$ ls -al' does not print filenames colorful. '~$ env | grep LS_COLORS' does not produce any output. How to correct that?
[09:29] <sandGorgon> bulldog98, ls --color=auto -F -al
[09:41] <alvin> Is there a change to vote against the new ubuntu font as default for Kubuntu? The reception of the font at the company where I work is very bad.
[09:42] <alvin> s/change/chance
[10:08] <odb|fidel> hi
[10:08] <odb|fidel> hi. question regarding dropbox on 10.10 - is there a specific ppa for dropbox on maverick? seems like my old ppa is not working anymore & my dropbox has sync issues.
[10:15] <diverse_izzue> i cannot add annotations using evince 2.32 on maverick, even though that's supposed to be supported now.
[10:28] <BajK___> stupid decision not releasing kde 4.5.2 for 10.04 -.-
[10:46] <alvin> It' a pity, but being careful is not stupid. The trouble is that Kubuntu releases appear at the same time as Ubuntu, and KDE has another release schedule.
[10:46] <alvin> On the other hand, it's a bug fix release, and there *are* bugs fixed
[10:53] <ChrisBuchholz> How can i get the Unity Appmenu in desktop edition? I thought it was meant to be an option for desktop, but I cant find anything about it other than how to install the debugging versions where the appmenu and the menu inside windows both show
[11:04] <nicolask> hi, anybody having problems of nautilus not working(not responding) after upgrade to rc Ubuntu 10.10?
[11:13] <bullgard4> How to determine the default font of the GNOME terminal?
[11:17] <bullgard4> sandGorgon: I believe gthat you made two mistakes.
[11:18] <sandGorgon> bullgard4, me ? ummm... was I talking to u ?
[11:18] <bullgard4> sandGorgon: You better check that yourself and behave accordingly.
[11:20] <sandGorgon> bullgard4, huh? I have no clue what u mean.. really. unless my system is spamming IRC or something. could you PM me please ?
[11:21] <ilvez> he's bot i guesss
[11:21] <bullgard4> sandGorgon: I don't see any reason to PM to you.
[11:22] <ilvez> i couldn't resist and began upgrading to rc
[11:25] <BajK___> Oh I am so very much looking forward to Sunday :)
[11:32] <Cass> 10.10 install disk leaves me with blank screen when trying to install .. anything i can do to get around ?  or do i need to use alt install cd ?
[11:36] <Unksi> anyone else having jumpy playback with amarok?
[11:37] <tensorpudding> huh, i didn't notice that maverick comes with a new font
[11:41] <odb|fidel> tensorpudding: its "the ubuntu font" ;)
[11:41] <alvin> It's also the first thing to remove on upgrade
[11:41] <ilvez> buggy?
[11:41] <alvin> No, ugly
[11:42] <alvin> Well, not ugly, but it doesn't look good either
[11:42] <ilvez> maybe needs some time
[11:42] <tensorpudding> I am trying it out. I think it looks okay.
[11:42] <alvin> Something feels wrong about it. Switch back to the default Sans Serif font and compare them.
[11:42] <tensorpudding> It's not as bland as Sans
[11:42] <ilvez> dunno, have seen screenshots but that doesnt count
[11:43] <alvin> The Kubuntu website also uses it on the front page, and it's not as readable as a few days ago
[11:43] <ilvez> can't see it yet -- upgrade in process (1:45 ... counting)
[11:44] <tensorpudding> Upgrading from Lucid kept the old fonts.
[11:44] <alvin> tensorpudding: Not here
[11:44] <tensorpudding> You can always switch them back.
[11:45] <ilvez> at first i thought that what the heck with ubuntu one, why do i need it, but in 10.10 they added tomboy note sync... that turned me
[11:45] <tensorpudding> The main stylistic problem I have with the upgrade was that they tweaked Ambiance to return it to orange highlights.
[11:47] <tensorpudding> I liked how Ambiance had eschewed a lot of the orange tones that made Human such an eyesore
[11:50] <ashfaq>  well I installed vlc and acetone iso but now a problem has crept up, when ever I click places for home folder or dowload folder either vlc, or acetone opens up instead of the targeted folder
[11:50] <ashfaq>  Why should this be how could this be corrected! Can someone help?
[11:53] <skumara> this channel is dying.
[11:53] <penguin42> it has 4 days left of its life and then it will later be rebourn a fresh
[11:54] <ilvez> i'll keep the logs for necromancy needs
[12:02] <NameLess-js> can some one help win unr wubi?
[12:03] <ilvez> NameLess-js: easiest is to write your problem not to ask questions that raise automatic question
[12:03] <NameLess-js> ok.
[12:03] <NameLess-js> so, i install wubi unr in win7
[12:04] <NameLess-js> i re-imaged my netbook due to problems on win7
[12:04] <NameLess-js> the reg entry  and all the other information about the existance of unr is gone
[12:04] <NameLess-js> wubi doesn't detect anything, but C:\ubuntu still exists
[12:05] <NameLess-js> can i a) run c:\ubuntu\uninstall-ubuntu.exe b)something else
[12:06] <NameLess-js> that is the problem
[12:07] <ilvez> don't know, i think it's a wubi related issue/bug, not maverick
[12:07] <NameLess-js> well since wubi is installed this can i ermove ubuntu?
[12:08] <skumara> i found this in the release notes Upgrading Wubi systems from 10.04 LTS is known to fail, and is not recommended at this time
[12:08] <NameLess-js> i used the wubi in the ubuntu 10.10 unr iso
[12:15] <bork> I upgraded to 10.10, and my dual monitor setup has become strangely broken -- I can display things on one monitor or the other, but not both
[12:16] <ilvez> possibly separate xorg servers on separate screens
[12:17] <LogicalDash> Whenever I try to run an ncurses app in a terminal it mysteriously fails, showing "can't open terminal (unknown)".
[12:18] <penguin42> LogicalDash: can you do echo $TERM
[12:18] <LogicalDash> penguin42, "dumb"
[12:18] <penguin42> LogicalDash: Which terminal - I think there is a bug with a few of them at the moment that doesn't set TERM
[12:18] <penguin42> bork: i945GM chipset, two monitors side by side?
[12:19] <LogicalDash> xfterm4
[12:19] <LogicalDash> so do I just export TERM=xfterm4?
[12:19] <bork> penguin42: laptop + external monitor, actually
[12:19] <penguin42> bork: what does lspci | grep -i vga   say?
[12:19] <LogicalDash> well, that didn't work
[12:20] <penguin42> LogicalDash: just exprot TERM=xterm
[12:20] <bork> penguin42: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[12:20] <LogicalDash> penguin42, that worked, thanks
[12:20] <gezegenci> hi , i just installed ubuntu netbook 10.10 RC bu tin UNE there is no programme's file bar... (file,prefences etc.)
[12:20] <gezegenci> and i cant edit left bar :(
[12:20] <penguin42> bork: OK, can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for me?
[12:21] <penguin42> LogicalDash: I think you have bug 621927
[12:21] <LogicalDash> penguin42, looks about right
[12:22] <gezegenci> any body ?
[12:23] <LogicalDash> gezegenci, as I recall, the file bar is replaced by a panel applet in the netbook remix...
[12:23] <LogicalDash> so it might just be working as intended
[12:23] <gezegenci> LOgicalDash ,
[12:24] <gezegenci> all programmes have this but konversation...
[12:24] <LogicalDash> gezegenci, using a KDE app in that environ might cause weird behavior, I suggest XChat instead
[12:25] <gezegenci> hmm , so you are saying , "you shouldn't use kde apps" ?
[12:26] <gezegenci> LogicalDash , thanks for information :)
[12:29]  * penguin42 goes to get breakfast, if bork comes back can someone tell him to look at bug 619663
[12:36] <Mouldy_Punk> Hey guys. I'm trying to install ubuntu NBR 10.10 from a usb stick on my netbook but am running into problems. This (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1533282) thread sums up my original problem, so I removed ui from the syslinux.cfg file but now I get an "Unknown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot" error. I haven't managed to find an actual fix on the web, just other people saying they have the same problem. Does any
[12:37] <Mouldy_Punk> I also tried commenting out the vesamenu.c32 line as per somebody's recommendation in #ubuntu, but it made no difference
[12:37] <ilvez> Mouldy_Punk: your message was too long, ". Does any" was last characters
[12:37] <ilvez> *were*
[12:37] <Mouldy_Punk> Does anybody know of a fix?
[12:37] <Mouldy_Punk> (:
[12:41] <Mouldy_Punk> never mind, it hadn't noticed it actually worked because it took a little while from displaying the error to actually doing something so I turned my back :D Commenting out vesamenu.c32 seemed to be the fix
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> I just deletes the vesamenu line, and all i had to do was hit enter when it booted.
[12:55] <penguin42> Mouldy_Punk: I think if you add lucid_updates to your lucid box that you created the thumb drive on, it should get a new thumb creator that does better
[13:20] <bonez2046> I am running 10.10.. and have a problem with my 'gateway 192.168.15.1' setting.. if I run 'route add default gw 192.168.15.1' my system connects.. but if I reboot, that gateway info is lost and I need to rerun the route command.. this information IS stored in my /etc/network/interfaces file.. why does it drop when rebooting?
[13:22] <ilvez> i like the new font :P
[13:27] <gezegenci> hi , how can i edit left-bar in "ubuntu netbook 10.10 RC"
[13:28] <Pr070cal> can someone help me get nvidia glx working plz, when i enable nvidia in xorg.conf i get no signal. i input resolution in xorg reboot and hangs before login
[13:28] <Pr070cal> dmesg doesnt output any error
[13:39] <Buffcns2>  what time on Sunday is 10.10 released?
[13:40] <ilvez> Buffcns2: exactly at gtfo :P
[13:40] <odb|fidel> ;)
[13:40] <odb|fidel> i guess 10:10 ;)
[13:41] <ilvez> this is ideal, but actual time is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1588658
[13:44] <odb|fidel> personaly i would just get the current version now to avoid the overload at official release date ;)
[13:45] <ilvez> check
[13:46] <ilvez> i will at home on release date or later, to get official experience(tm) too
[13:49] <odb|fidel> works on all 3 boxes pretty silent & without relevant issues
[13:54] <gezegenci> hi , how can i add an applet to panel (ubuntu netbook RC)
[13:56] <bjsnider> Pr070cal, are you using a vaio?
[14:02] <Buffcns2> odb|fidel, think I will take your advice and upgrade now
[14:02] <odb|fidel> Buffcns2: thats not an advice - its just one of many ways ;)
[14:03] <odb|fidel> and 10.10 works pretty good here at my desk, my netbook and a vm in fusion
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> i did notice some large updates this morning.
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> 4 days to go.. i hope they get all the fix's in place..
[14:03] <odb|fidel> Dr_Willis: only this morning?
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> odb|fidel:  dident notice many yesterday. I tend to update at 8:00 AM my time every day
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> day befor that. there was a bunch also.
[14:04] <odb|fidel> hehe
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> saw some web site that had a 'graph'/timelike of how the last beta happened also.
[14:04] <odb|fidel> its nice to see the changes in software-center now
[14:05] <odb|fidel> i like the apt-history idea
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> it seems that many of my 'terminals' still get TERM set to 'dumb'
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> Software center has the fonts messed up for me.. let me check again.
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> yep - still messed up
[14:05] <odb|fidel> well - not using it usually - as cli/apt does the job well enough. But the history-idea is nice
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> The bottom 20% or so of  the description is cut off.
[14:06] <odb|fidel> hehe - its broken on my netbook too - clicks inside software-center dont act as clicks
[14:06] <methril_work> hi!!
[14:06] <odb|fidel> or arent interpreted as clicks
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> one of the many little thingsd that need worked on.
[14:06] <methril_work> why is kde-fulll blocking? i see kde-minimal and kdebase block the upgrade
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> but since its not a LTS release.. i bet they will sort of rush it..
[14:07] <methril_work> it's safe to upgrade removing this packages?
[14:07] <odb|fidel> methril_work: as long as you dont use KDE it *should* be safe to remove any kde-related paket
[14:07] <odb|fidel> *package*
[14:08] <methril_work> well, i use kde apps
[14:08] <methril_work> i only want to know what is the proper upgrade steps (i some problems in the past forcing the upgrade)
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> try a dist-upgrade? or a normal upgrade?
[14:10] <methril_work> normal upgrade dos not upgrade
[14:10] <methril_work> dist-upgrade does the magic
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> I always do a dist-upgrade while betatesting. :)  seems to slap things into shape better.
[14:11] <Pr070cal> is nvidia glx working ???
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> Pr070cal:  nvidia works fine on my 2 nvidia machines.
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> 360M and 8800tgsxxx
[14:11] <Pr070cal> oh
[14:11] <Pr070cal> not sure why mine isnt working
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> yoru video card is?
[14:11] <Pr070cal> i got 8400 gs
[14:12] <Pr070cal> are you using nvidia-glx-185 ?
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> Theres been some issues with the older driver versions ive heard.. but not seen any specifics
[14:12] <methril_work> well, then i'll wait to get RC :)
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> Driver Version friom Nvidia-settings --> 260.19.06
[14:13] <Pr070cal> i get no signal after reboot but if i edit xorg.conf and enter 800x600 it hangs before login screen
[14:13] <Pr070cal> dmesg outputs no error
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> You tried it with no xorg.conf at all>
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> ?
[14:13] <Pr070cal> no
[14:13] <bjsnider> Pr070cal, are you using a vaio?
[14:14] <Pr070cal> no desktop
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> also theres a 'text' option that disables plymouth and other things that cause issues with the nvidia drivers
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> !text
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. what was that factoid
[14:14] <Pr070cal> i removed nouvo drivers
[14:14] <bjsnider> Pr070cal, does your xorg.conf have the customedid option?
[14:14] <Pr070cal> no dpms
[14:15] <bjsnider> what?
[14:15] <Pr070cal> oh i remeber something about that way back
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> Pr070cal:  move xorg.conf to some other fillename try it with NO xorg.conf at all.
[14:15] <bjsnider> no, don't do that
[14:16] <bjsnider> pastebin your xorg.conf
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> The nvidia drivers here dont need a xorg.conf. Unless im enabling twinview.
[14:16] <bjsnider> yes they do
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> ill look on my laptop.. but im rpetty sure it dosent.
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> this box is dual head.. so its got one.
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> even with twinview enabled on nvidia . My xorg.conf is rather minimal - let me pastebin them. perhaps theres some examples/differances you can tell Pr070cal
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> Single monitor - xorg.conf for my 8800tgxsss desktop machine --> http://pastebin.com/tvqC31s5
[14:23] <ashfaq> Will someone help me with a problem in 10.10 pl
[14:23] <sam12345> explain the problem
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> and the problem is.....
[14:24] <ashfaq>  well I installed vlc and acetone iso but now a problem has crept up, when ever I click places for home folder or dowload folder either vlc, or acetone opens up instead of the targeted folder
[14:24] <ashfaq>  Why should this be how could this be corrected! Can someone help?
 you got it?
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> Your folders 'default' program  is some how set to be vlc, or acetone.
 How to correct this? Pl help
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> right click on a folder, open with other application.....   select 'open folder'
 Just' open folder'
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> 'open folder' is the programs name in the list of programs
 I tried, when I right clicked "acetone is starting
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> Right clickiong on a folder icon . should be pulling up a menu item...
[14:28] <ashfaq> Nothing! the process of starting is initiated for acetone, even on ntfs win7 folders
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> No idea then.. you got somthing really goofed if right clicking on a folder is the same as double clicking on it.
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> lets see if i can replicate the  bug.
[14:29] <ashfaq> yeah that is what is happening!
[14:30] <ashfaq> Check out pl. I am waiting
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> installed acetoneiso tool. had no issues, I see no problems
[14:31] <ashfaq> Try opening an ISO file with acetone, I did that, after that it started
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> I did, it worked..
[14:32] <ashfaq> May be their is some command line for making the default file opening management live again!
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> I notice that acetoneiso has NOT been added to the default 'open with' list for an iso file. i have to tell it to do so manually
[14:33] <ashfaq> In my case it got it done and now is unable to change in any option visible to newbee like me
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> then afer that - it is aded to the 'open with' submenu
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> sounds to me like you right clicked on a folder, selected open with.... selected acetone and left the 'make this the default' check marked.
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> a RIGHT click on a folder should be pulling up a menu of several dozen items. Not launching a program
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> You can also set the default 'program' for folders to be 'open folder' with the Ubuntu-tweak tool.
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak/0.5.x/0.5.6/+download/ubuntu-tweak_0.5.6-1_all.deb
[14:35] <ashfaq> I tried another way too, I removed acetone, than it started with vlc, I removed that too, than for a brief time it worked normally, I thought the problem got resolved so installed these two programs back and it started again
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> You need to tell it to use 'open folder' as the default application.
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> Otherwise it just goes down the list of 'apps' it has saved as ones you have used to open a folder with, in the past.
[14:37] <ashfaq> so the solution is the web site you mentioned above?
[14:37] <ashfaq> I am installing ubuntu tweak now, tell me how to do it
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu-tweak has a section to change default apps.. that has nothing to do with why your RIGHT mouse button is launching  a program.
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> so ive no idea on why you cant just right clcik on a folder, and fix it that way.
[14:38] <ashfaq> I will check it and come back, now that the tweak has been installed, lets see, by the way thanks for the idea, let me try
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu-tweak --> File Type manager --> select (ALL catatory)
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> File Type of 'folder' is set to be 'Open Folder'
[14:40] <ashfaq> okay, Thanks let me check
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> The Context menus are getting WAY too cluttereed these days...
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> woohoo.. ui found a 'hide the ribbon' setting :) perhaps that removes that silly info ribon at the top of some folders..
 Was that for me
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> ever notice in the Ubuntu One Folder the ribon at the top?
[14:45] <ashfaq> I had never opened this folder buntu 1 until now intentionally, but we can check it you want me to click that one
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. UbuntuOmne seems totally broken for me now.. Joys.
 Whats happening?
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> Playing with settings here.. :)   and trying to figure out how to trim out this RIght Click Menu. thats taking up 98% of my Monitors height.
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> On  a netbook i bet it would be 2 screens tall.
[14:47] <ashfaq> I see, you using 10.10
[14:47] <knittl> why is bzr held back?
[14:48] <Dr_Willis> ashfaq: yes. this is the 10.10 channel.. unless i got confused and changed channels again...
[14:48]  * Dr_Willis looks
[14:48] <Dr_Willis> knittl:  i dident see it held back here today
[14:48] <knittl> Dr_Willis: conflits with bzr-svn and bzrtools somehow
 yeah I forgot? I cant find what you asked me check in tweaks?
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu-tweak --> File Type manager --> select (ALL catatory)
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> File Type of 'folder' is set to be 'Open Folder'
[14:49] <knittl> bzr-gtk bzr-svn and bzrtools will be removed
[14:49] <knittl> bzr will be upgraded
[14:51] <phoenix_> anyone tried btrfs
[14:52] <patdk-wk> ya, been running btrfs for almost 5 months
[14:52] <phoenix_> patdk-wk: how do you feel about thge performance. is compression enabled?
[14:53] <Pici> knittl: Is this a new upgrade to 10.10?
[14:53] <patdk-wk> yes, I have compression enabled
[14:53] <knittl> Pici: no
[14:53] <knittl> i upgraded shortly after 10.04
[14:53] <patdk-wk> I can't tell any performance difference
[14:53] <Pici> knittl: I ask because the bzr package in Maverick was last updated 9 weeks ago.
[14:54] <knittl> it's held back for quite some time now, though it hasn'- been 9 weeks
[14:54] <phoenix_> patdk-wk: i thin the new version is not optimised yet
[14:54] <knittl> 2 maybe
[14:54] <Pici> knittl: Weeks?
[14:55] <knittl> Pici: yeah
[14:55] <patdk-wk> phoenix_, what are you talking about?
[14:55] <knittl> or maybe only one. i cannot really remember
[14:55] <phoenix_> patdk-wk: btrfs
[14:55] <knittl> but now i want to upgrade :D
[14:55] <patdk-wk> "i thin the new version is not optimised yet", I have no idea what you are talking about
[14:56] <Pici> knittl: Can you pastebin the output of   apt-cache policy bzr bzr-gtk bzrtools
[14:56] <patdk-wk> you just said that out of the blue
[14:57] <knittl> Pici: http://paste2.org/p/1022034
[14:57] <Pici> knittl: Well there you go.  You're using a ppa for your bzr package.
[14:57]  * patdk-wk thinks it is optimized ok, if I don't notice a performance hit for compression, and random i/o
[14:57] <phoenix_> patdk-wk: is the option to use btrfs available in ubiquity ?
[14:58] <patdk-wk> what is ubiquity?
[14:58] <knittl> Pici: um. yeah, now that you're saying …
[14:58] <patdk-wk> I converted my setup before ubuntu supported it
[14:59] <phoenix_> !ubiquity
[14:59] <bazhang> phoenix_, debian-installer only iirc
[15:00] <phoenix_> bazhang: what do you mean by only iirc
[15:00] <bazhang> phoenix_, alternate cd , If I Recall Correctly
[15:01] <bazhang> ie Not the live cd (ubiquity)
[15:01] <patdk-wk> oh heh, livecd, I never use that
[15:01] <bazhang> ubiquity is that
[15:01] <patdk-wk> I just pxeboot and use a local mirror
[15:02] <phoenix_> will it be availabe in ubiquity in the full release
[15:02] <phoenix_> bazhang: will it be availabe in ubiquity in the full release
[15:02] <bazhang> phoenix_, no idea, doubt it.
[15:02] <patdk-wk> by full release you mean, 12.04?
[15:02] <phoenix_> patdk-wk: 10.10
[15:02] <patdk-wk> won't be in 10.10 :)
[15:02] <phoenix_> patdk-wk: :(
[15:03] <patdk-wk> you can easily do it yourself using the livecd though
[15:04] <phoenix_> after forking of the open office project , i feel bad about oracle. i am afraid id the same may happen to the btrfs project
[15:06] <spine55> has anyone had to fix issues with pulseaudio pulseaudio[1545]: ratelimit.c: 3 events suppressed
[15:09] <volodya> spine55: I get those sometimes, does not seem to cause any actual problems
[15:17] <spine55> volodya: well I don't have sound anymore :(
[15:17] <volodya> spine55: I'd imagine that's unrelated
[15:18] <spine55> volodya: ok
[15:26] <SaRy> spine55, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio/Log
[15:28] <SaRy> spine55, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html
[15:33] <Ken8521> the isntaller on 10.10... it's not quite as good as 10.04, but it's not to bad
[15:34] <bazhang> debian-installer worked great here
[15:34] <Ken8521> but if you've installed Linux before, you'll probably have no problem
[15:34] <Ken8521> bazhang, only thing i don't like about it(and it dind't bother me, but I've gotten quite a few messages from friends installing it)..
[15:34] <Ken8521> is whe you come to the partition stage
[15:35] <Ken8521> you get two options.. take over the whole drive, or "advanced"..
[15:35] <bazhang> well I installed early beta, so always a risk
[15:35] <Ken8521> there is no "guided" option anymore... that i can see
[15:35] <bazhang> ie the alternate cd
[15:35] <bazhang> you seem to be referring the live cd
[15:35] <Ken8521> yeah, i was talking about the GUI installer... liek i said, didn't bother me, cuz i always used advanced anyway..
[15:35] <Ken8521> yup i am
[15:37] <moonunit> ken
[15:37] <moonunit> ok
[15:37] <moonunit> im gonna explain my whole problem
[15:37] <Ken8521> shoot
[15:37]  * patdk-wk blames btrfs compression for why I can only get a 11.9s boot time, and nothing faster :(
[15:38] <moonunit> im pretty new to linux
[15:38] <patdk-wk> cpu sits at 100% usage from 3s to 12s
[15:38] <patdk-wk> using an E8600
[15:38] <moonunit> i need to install unbuntu, you recomend 10.4?  but i want to dual boot it.
[15:38] <Ken8521> moonunit, dual booting is not the issue.
[15:39] <Ken8521> it's not hard to set up.
[15:39] <moonunit> when i tired that with crunch i somehow corrupted windows files
[15:39] <Ken8521> ok... is windows owrking now?
[15:39] <moonunit> nand can nolonger go to windows
[15:39] <moonunit> no
[15:39] <Ken8521> ok.
[15:39] <bazhang> moonunit, this has nothing to with crunchbang
[15:39] <Ken8521> what's happening, grub error?
[15:39] <moonunit> i know
[15:39] <moonunit> but i want to know how to correctly set up a partion
[15:39] <bazhang> so why mention it
[15:39] <moonunit> or install in a certin area
[15:39] <moonunit> before i go download 10.5
[15:39] <moonunit> 4
[15:39] <bazhang> !install > moonunit
[15:39] <Ken8521> moonunit, join me in /join #ken8521
[15:40] <bazhang> !dualboot > moonunit
[15:41] <bazhang> moonunit, you just said you were going for 10.10
[15:45] <raymondjtoth2> hi can i use Mesa 3D GL driver for my intel if so how i get them
[15:45] <raymondjtoth2> im on alpha
[15:45] <bazhang> raymondjtoth2, alpha?
[15:45] <bazhang> its four days from final release
[15:45] <raymondjtoth2> bazhang yes 10 10 the new one in beta i think called now
[15:45] <raymondjtoth2> bazhang havnt been here long time
[15:46] <raymondjtoth2> can i use bazhang the Mesa 3D GL driver for my intel graphic
[15:46] <raymondjtoth2> if so how i install them
[15:47] <raymondjtoth2> bazhang can yiu help me out
[15:47] <raymondjtoth2> ?
[15:47] <bazhang> raymondjtoth2, no idea, I have nvidia
[15:48] <raymondjtoth2> sary whats that
[15:56] <raymondjtoth2> any one good with intel cards?
[15:57] <raymondjtoth2> can help me a sec
[15:57] <raymondjtoth2> ?
[16:02] <patdk-wk> hmm, intel cards, what would that be?
[16:02] <patdk-wk> network? wifi? memory? flash? ......
[16:02] <Ken8521> sound..
[16:02] <Ken8521> lol
[16:02] <Ken8521> 1 in a gazillion
[16:02] <Ken8521> graphics
[16:03] <patdk-wk> I guess you could technically call a motherboard a card, just a large one :)
[16:03] <Ken8521> lol
[16:03] <patdk-wk> but the blade ones are small :)
[16:03] <patdk-wk> and technically cards :)
[16:03] <raymondjtoth2> ken how i get the newer Mesa 3D GL driver for intel grphic cards in 10 10 is there easy way to do it
[16:03] <raymondjtoth2> like auto installer
[16:04] <Ken8521> raymondjtoth2, i really don't know.. i just use the default driver on my intel system, it works fine
[16:04] <raymondjtoth2> ken im loking for 3d one
[16:05] <raymondjtoth2> what 3d intel graphoc driver are there for 1010 ubuntu
[16:15] <raymondjtoth2> any one know how to install new Mesa 3D GL driver for intel grphic card?
[16:15] <raymondjtoth2> the easy way
[16:16] <raymondjtoth2> i dont know conpiling yet
[16:16] <raymondjtoth2> want to get new one out by them
[16:16] <phil_> hey guys. I'd like to add a wine application to the launcher bar in netbook remix 10.10 - is this doable? I can't seem to figure out a way to create custom launchers
[16:18] <raymondjtoth2> any one?
[16:20] <Pr070cal> anyone know how to fix nvidia glx
[16:20] <Pr070cal> http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1562450
[16:22] <bjsnider> Pr070cal, if you're not going to provide me with the information i ask for, then no
[16:23] <Pr070cal> bjsnider: what info do you need ?
[16:24] <Pr070cal> i dont use custom edid but think i may need to use it to detect resolutions
[16:24] <bjsnider> Pr070cal, i need your xorg.conf, your exact hardware and what driver you're trying to use
[16:26] <Pr070cal> bjsnider: http://pastebin.ca/1955656
[16:27] <raymondjtoth2> guess dead room
[16:27] <Pr070cal> 8400 gs, nvidia-glx-185
[16:29] <bjsnider> Pr070cal, did that card work with the previous nvidia driver, until a cuple of days ago?
[16:29] <Pr070cal> it worked with 10.04
[16:30] <sunshinepants> digging the maverick
[16:30] <Pr070cal> but not since clean 64-bit 10.10
[16:30] <bjsnider> when did you install maverick?
[16:30] <Pr070cal> 32-bit 10.04 previous
[16:30] <Pr070cal> 2days ago
[16:30] <bjsnider> alright run these commands: dkms status
[16:31] <sunshinepants> i've got it on a dell latitude d830, alienware m11x, and a white box with a new(ish) gigabyte mb
[16:31] <Pr070cal> nvidia-current, 260.19.06, 2.6.35-22-generic, x86_64: installed
[16:31] <bjsnider> now uname -r
[16:32] <Pr070cal> 2.6.35-22-generic
[16:32] <bjsnider> i'll bbl to continue
[16:32] <Pr070cal> bjsnider: bbl ?
[16:33] <Pr070cal> bjsnider: oh be back later
[16:35] <raymondjtoth2> any one know how to install Mesa 3D GL driver for intel graphic
[16:35] <raymondjtoth2> ?
[16:35] <raymondjtoth2> in 1010 ubuntu
[16:36] <raymondjtoth2> ?
[16:37] <raymondjtoth2> any one
[16:37] <sunshinepants> raymondjtoth2: i've got it with libgl1-mesa-glx, libgl1-mesa-dri, and libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental
[16:37] <raymondjtoth2> subshinepants how i install it
[16:37] <raymondjtoth2> i ne er did conpiling befor
[16:38] <raymondjtoth2> sunshinepants i never did conpiling how i install it
[16:38] <raymondjtoth2> and run it
[16:38] <sunshinepants> raymondjtoth2: sorry i can't get into that much depth here
[16:38] <sunshinepants> raymondjtoth2: you should be able to apt-get install all of those
[16:38] <sunshinepants> raymondjtoth2: or synaptic
[16:39] <raymondjtoth2> ok once do how i run it
[16:39] <raymondjtoth2> will install it
[16:39] <sunshinepants> open a terminal, type "sudo apt-get install <package>"
[16:39] <sunshinepants> raymondjtoth2: you should probably be using 10.4..
[16:40] <raymondjtoth2> i love 1010 just doont know conpiling well
[16:40] <sunshinepants> raymondjtoth2: no compilation is required, so problem solved there..
[16:41] <raymondjtoth2> sunshine i didnt have this libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental
[16:42] <raymondjtoth2> sunshine how i switch to mesa driver and tell linux to use it now
[16:42] <raymondjtoth2> what i do
[16:43] <sunshinepants> raymondjtoth2: nothing as far as i know.  you should be able to restart gdm or your client and it should work
[16:44] <raymondjtoth2> how i restart gdm
[16:44] <raymondjtoth2> never did that one befor
[16:45] <philsf> raymondjtoth2, just logout and login again
[16:45] <raymondjtoth2> ok
[16:52] <Pr070cal> bjsnider: seems as though xorg.conf doesnt affect the resolution somthing is overiding, i changed xorg.conf back to use nv driver from nvidia and left the only resolution 1024x768 but machince booted to 1366x768 same resolution when i fist installed
[17:01] <raymondjtoth2> sunshine made it faster
[17:08] <sunshinepants> yep, you're good to go raymondjtoth2
[17:15] <Pr070cal> [ 14174.983] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check your
[17:15] <Pr070cal> [ 14174.984] (EE) NVIDIA:     system's kernel log for additional error messages.
[17:27] <dajhorn> Pr070cal: Use xrand to verify that the resolution is actually 1366x768.   The driver is more likely to choose 1360x768 or 1368x768.
[17:35] <IdleOne> What happened to the Software Sources in the menu? seems like it was removed
[17:35] <Ken8521> IdleOne, you can add it back.. right click menu, edit menu, go down to admin
[17:36] <IdleOne> Ken8521: thanks. I should of checked that first :)
[17:36] <Ken8521> :).. it got me to
[17:36] <penguin42> IdleOne: It's also on Ubuntu Software Centre->Edit menu
[17:37] <IdleOne> penguin42: yeah, can get to it from Update manager > Settings also
[17:37] <IdleOne> just used to seeing it there
[17:38] <penguin42> It probably didn't deserve a slot of it's own
[17:41] <IdleOne> my normal mirror is 404 :/
[17:47] <Prez00> so what's the word, this thing looking good?
[17:47] <Prez00> I've been very happy with 10.04
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> Seems the printer driver for my Canon ip6600D is not printing 'black'  Just the colors..
[18:24] <philinux> Who likes the new Font
[18:24] <donri> I do!
[18:25] <penguin42> philinux: Mostly yes; not too sure about bold
[18:26] <sam12345> hi everybody.
[18:26] <donri> Or the lack of a monospace. But Liberation Mono goes well with it.
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> I used it for my Rummage Sale Signs.. :P
[18:30] <sam12345> Good evening penguin42, i've tried to send a mail to AsRock for bug #605686. Maybe they answer me.
[18:30] <penguin42> sam12345: Oh I'd be interested in your reply
[18:31] <sam12345> i've linked in the email the launchpad page of the bug and this link: http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/10/24/24
[18:32] <sam12345> aka the patch for the kernel to add the paramenter intremap=nosid
[18:33] <sam12345> maybe you can send you too to asrock the problem, if you want
[18:34] <izardstreet> i upgraded to 10.10 and now my gnome-volume-control-applet won't autostart
[18:34] <sam12345> izardstreet: give an error?
[18:35] <izardstreet> how do i check for error
[18:35] <sunshinepants> izardstreet: i think you're missing gnome-media package.. i had something similar
[18:35] <izardstreet> it will start when i enter gnome-volume-control-applet in the terminal
[18:35] <sunshinepants> oh nm
[18:35] <penguin42> sam12345: That patch is in 2.6.36; did you see my nasty patch in the bug that turns off remapping later?
[18:35] <izardstreet> gnome-volume-control-applet
[18:36] <penguin42> izardstreet: These days it tends to use indicator-sound-service
[18:36] <izardstreet> sudo apt-get install indicator-sound-service
[18:36] <izardstreet> ?
[18:37] <sam12345> yeah. only a look. for now my hardisk with linux it's TFU (Totally Fuc**d Up)
[18:37] <penguin42> izardstreet: Should already have it; /usr/lib/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service
[18:38] <izardstreet> penguin42: sorry i'm a noob. what do i do with indicator-sound-service
[18:39] <penguin42> izardstreet: it should already be running, but if not try running /usr/lib/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service and you should have a volume control
[18:40] <trism> izardstreet: gnome-volume-control-applet hasn't been default since karmic, if you want it instead of indicator-sound, you need to add it back to System/Preferences/Startup Applications (where it was in karmic)
[18:41] <sam12345> penguin42: but the patch that i've linked is it only present in 2.6.36, so i must upgrade manually the kernel in ubuntu 10.10 right?
[18:41] <trism> izardstreet: otherwise make sure indicator-sound is installed, and add the indicator applet to your panel if it isn't there
[18:41] <penguin42> sam12345: Yeh
[18:42] <penguin42> sam12345: You could use the mainline kernel-ppa - havign said that I'm not sure that gains that much over the nointremap
[18:42] <izardstreet> indicator sound is installed
[18:42] <izardstreet> how do i add the applet
[18:42] <trism> izardstreet: right click the panel, add to panel, scroll down to the indicator applet
[18:43] <izardstreet> i did that and all it added was an applet with my username and accounts
[18:43] <sam12345> but this user write: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/605686/comments/13 it say that nointremap is more dangerous than a nosid
[18:43] <trism> izardstreet: there are two, not indicator applet session, just indicator applet
[18:44] <trism> izardstreet: they are awkwardly named, I agree
[18:44] <izardstreet> agreed trism.
[18:44] <izardstreet> thank you guys, that did it. appreciated.
[18:44] <tmzt_> anyone having issues with empathy freezing?
[18:44] <penguin42> sam12345: Yeh I'm not sure that it is less dangerous, it just removes less features - he was saying my patch was dangerous (but it worked!)
[18:46] <sam12345> i hope to find a new harddisk, until now i can't try. now i'm on Windows 7
[18:46] <izardstreet> i hope i'm not annoying anyone but could someone also help me restore the Rhythmbox systray applet that disappeared when i upgraded
[18:49] <izardstreet> oh in 10.10 was the rhythmbox applet combined with the indicator applet
[18:49] <Ken8521> sam12345, why do you nee da new hard drive?
[18:49] <Ken8521> izardstreet, i think so
[18:49] <sam12345> metallic sound and then puff
[18:50] <sam12345> maybe i could set up a virtual machine, too
[18:50] <Ken8521> sam12345, if the hard drive is bad, how are you on 7?
[18:51] <sam12345> another drive. 2 hard drives.
[18:51] <Ken8521> sam12345, so just partition it and use ubuntu w/ it
[18:58] <Assid> heya
[19:22] <ShackJack> Hey all - just wondering what kind of feedback there was regarding the new Unity interface on the Netbook Edition? I'm not really loving it myself so far (but trying to give it a chance!) - didn't know if I was in the minority on that position :-)
[19:23] <seemawn> hi
[19:24] <rusivi> seemawn: yeah I am running Maverick native on my laptop. Minimal issues.
[19:24] <seemawn> rusivi: what are these issues?
[19:24] <rusivi> Well I briefly had a Ubuntu Software Center install issue that was fixed with updating it.
[19:25] <BluesKaj> any upgrades to onboard graphics ati drivers like the x200m , which I have on this older pc ?
[19:25] <rusivi> seemawn: No deal breaker problems.
[19:25] <rusivi> seemawn: If I was in a production environment I would be more cautious and stick with Lucid of course.
[19:25] <seemawn> rusivi: do you have by accident newer hardware?
[19:25] <rusivi> seemawn: I have a Toshiba Satellite L305D-S5934
[19:26] <seemawn> which processor?\
[19:26] <BluesKaj> or should I even bother trying to run 10.10 on this machine ?
[19:26] <seemawn> rusivi: i check the laptop specs in google.
[19:27] <seemawn> thx!
[19:29] <rusivi> I got it via Toshiba Direct
[19:31] <rusivi> I liked it better b/c it has Atheros WLAN chipset (I want to avoid Broadcom at all costs for now).
[19:34] <bullgard4> I have made a OO.o form. Using »Record Search« > Where to Search > Single field allows me to select one of all created fields but one. Instead, another field name doubles. How to fix that?
[19:35] <rusivi> !ooo | bullgard4
[19:36] <bullgard4> rusivi: I have put here a specific question. Why do you respond with generalities?
[19:37] <rusivi> bullgard4: Your question is better served in channel #openoffice.org
[19:37] <rusivi> :)
[19:38] <bullgard4> rusivi: No sir. It is not served there at all. I have put this question there before, and there has been no response to it.
[19:40] <bullgard4> rusivi: Yes, I am using Base.
[20:02] <effie_jayx> hello all
[20:02] <effie_jayx> Just upgraded to maverick I had Netbook Remix
[20:03] <effie_jayx> KNetworkManager is not around
[20:03] <effie_jayx> and I can't manage my connections
[20:03] <effie_jayx> in kubuntu
[20:05] <effie_jayx> I tried to enable the icons to be shown in the system tray
[20:05] <effie_jayx> but they are all disabled and I click on a button to enable editing and nothng happens
[20:10] <michaelsa> I just upgraded to maverick via update-manager, and the keyboard indicator is just an icon of a keyboard, with no indication whatsoever of the current layout. any way to fix this?
[20:12] <effie_jayx> michaelsa: I lost knetworkmanager
[20:13] <effie_jayx> michaelsa: let me check keyboard
[20:14] <yofel> effie_jayx: first unlock the widgets on the desktop and then try to add them again, the unlock button in the menu is somewhat odd
[20:14] <effie_jayx> yofel: I see it, but it does nothing
[20:14] <effie_jayx> or so it seems like
[20:14] <yofel> hm, I used the network plasmoid in the tray which works fine here
[20:15] <yofel> !info plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[20:17] <effie_jayx> yofel: just added it
[20:17] <effie_jayx> it is not in the notification area though
[20:17] <effie_jayx> I wonder if this is a bug
[20:18] <effie_jayx> no it is not
[20:18] <effie_jayx> just unlocked it like you said
[20:18] <effie_jayx> and I was able to add it
[20:20] <effie_jayx> michaelsa: I add it, and It only says ES
[20:20] <effie_jayx> right click bring Spanish
[20:20] <effie_jayx> though I have three languages
[20:20] <michaelsa> effie_jayx: just now I removed the indicator applet and re-added it and it works fine again
[20:21] <michaelsa> but it sounded like you're on kde? I'm on gnome. might be a totally different thing.
[20:25] <effie_jayx> michaelsa: ahh sorry, I had issues with plasmoids
[20:26] <michaelsa> effie_jayx: good luck then :)
[20:26] <michaelsa> i'm off
[21:15] <juk> can anyone pastebin his default /usr/share/evolution/signature.py script?
[21:15] <IdleOne> juk: you are running 10.10?
[21:15] <IdleOne> errr
[21:16] <Lowwe> I have no internet connnection in 10.10, are the drivers supposed to be installed auto?
[21:16] <IdleOne> let me just crosspost all over freenode and sooner or later someone will answer me
[21:16]  * BluesKaj installs kubuntu maverick as we speak ...waits for the install to finish with nothing broken
[21:16] <IdleOne> Lowwe: what card?
[21:17] <IdleOne> Lowwe: normally they are installed yes
[21:17] <Lowwe> It's onboard on an HP
[21:17] <BluesKaj> Lowwe, what kind of connection , ethernet or wifi?
[21:17] <Lowwe> Wired
[21:17] <bekks> hi
[21:18] <bekks> someone please can clue me to a guide on how to configure/use the EC2 cloud install of Maverick?
[21:18] <Lowwe> I'm in the network connections window, can't apply anything either. It asks for authentication. I enter my password I made in the OS setup and it doesn't work, Also changed password to root and tried the root pass, no work.
[21:19] <BluesKaj> Lowwe, rather than use Network manager in gnome or kde , I recomend this for wired ethernet, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[21:20] <Lowwe> Alright, I'll give it a looksy
[21:21] <swex_> bekks, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBajLxeKqoY
[21:22] <bekks> swex_: thank you :)
[21:23] <bekks> swex_: i still havent got the "idea" behind the "cloud" - is there some good short explanation on what it actually is, and how to use it - without marketing buzzwords? :)
[21:24] <swex_> bekks, have no time just read wikipedia cloud computing article
[21:24] <bekks> ok
[21:25] <BluesKaj> bekks, it's just using data/apps on internet servers ,running them in a broswer or other internet app
[21:27] <bekks> BluesKaj: so, lets say having three servers, each for one app, like webserver, database server and storage server - i would create a cloud with this three servers, and then just could switch one app to another server in the cloud?
[21:28] <BluesKaj> well, bekks I suppose if you want to serve as a cloud source , yes
[21:28] <Lowwe> Blueskaj: I changed my interfaces to static and restarted. Still no connection - The internet connection symbol at the top disapeared as well
[21:29] <bekks> BluesKaj: What exactly does "to serve as a cloud source" mean?
[21:29] <BluesKaj> Lowwe, remove network manager , whichever one you use in gnome or kde
[21:29] <bekks> BluesKaj: I dont want to publish all that to some Amazon servers which i do not know :)
[21:29] <Lowwe> How? Sorry don't know a ton about linux, just a little bit
[21:30] <BluesKaj> to serve data and apps and a webpage to the internet , bekks
[21:31] <bekks> BluesKaj: I just want it to serve in a closed infrastructure.
[21:31] <BluesKaj> Lowwe, ok open a terminal , type , sudo dhclient
[21:32] <Lowwe> Trying to send packets, says network is down
[21:33] <BluesKaj> bekks, on a LAN , then you're just setting up a server...the so called cloud is a fancy ethereal name for internet computing.
[21:34] <Lowwe> No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persisten database - sleeping.
[21:34] <bekks> BluesKaj: Well, what is this then? http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private
[21:35] <rusivi> bekks: Cloud is a somewhat, loosely used marketing term for redundant clustering, anytime internet availability, multi-platform accessible, etc.
[21:35] <BluesKaj> Lowwe, in the terminal , sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[21:36] <bekks> rusivi: but it does not mean i have to connect to the amazon cloud whatever stuff?
[21:36] <rusivi> bekks: No. If you want to setup a personal, non-Amazon cloud your free to do so.
[21:37] <BluesKaj> bekks, if you want to discuss defintions then go to cloud computing or whatever the chat is called ., this ubuntu support
[21:37] <Lowwe> Did it. Another thing... the router doesn't recognize that it's connected. Lights aren't on for it
[21:37] <bekks> BluesKaj: I just want to learn on how to use the Cloud installation option of Maverick - I'm sory for firing up a discussion about the terms at all.
[21:38] <bekks> rusivi: thank you :)
[21:38] <rusivi> bekks: Nothing to be sorry about, we are all just working it out together. Eucalyptus may offer what your looking for.
[21:38] <BluesKaj> bekks, don't know about that option , I just installed maverick an hr ago
[21:39] <bekks> BluesKaj: it is the second option on the server cd :)
[21:39] <rusivi> bekks: More information on Eucalyptus may be found at -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Eucalyptus
[21:39] <BluesKaj> bekks, I did a net install
[21:39] <BluesKaj> upgrade
[21:40] <bekks> rusivi: that is pretty "old" i guess? It is pointing to 9.04/9.10?
[21:40] <rusivi> bekks: It does need to be updated, yet may provided valuable information for a more current release.
[21:40] <BluesKaj> Lowwe, check the ethernet connection on the pc, it should be active , then try route in the terminal
[21:40] <bekks> rusivi: ah ok
[21:41] <Lowwe> I just did - the light flashes green in the back of the PC for a second, but the router still doesn't recognize it. It's weird because it was JUST downloading all the packages for ubuntu in the install... But doesn't work when it's done
[21:44] <BluesKaj> Lowwe, did you remove network manager?
[21:45] <Lowwe> Not yet, I asked how - Not very experienced with linux
[21:45] <bekks> rusivi: using a private cloud, i basically do not want a walrus, i guess? all i want is a "storage node" like in a SAN (i dont know whether this comparison is valid at all)
[21:45] <BluesKaj> Lowwe, which desktop, gnome or kde
[21:46] <LBo> Anyone else having problems with vino-server on 10.10? It doesn't start
[21:46] <Lowwe> I figured it out, it's in the software center - it's removed
[21:48] <BluesKaj> Lowwe, pastebin the output in the terminal from ifconfig
[21:48] <BluesKaj> !paste
[21:49] <BluesKaj> Lowwe, sorry, type ifconfig in the terminal , copy and paste the output if any in pastebin
[21:50] <Lowwe> http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk27/octayn911/1006001548.jpg
[21:51] <LBo> When I start vino-server manually I get a: received signal 11, exiting
[21:55] <bekks> rusivi: any hints?
[21:57] <rusivi> bekks: It depends on your application. If you just want to backup info for personal use, your best bet is to buy a economy external HDD and plug-n-play.
[21:57] <BluesKaj> Lowwe, sudo dhclient eth0
[21:58] <bekks> rusivi: well, i wanted to try to run a virtual machine on a cloud, providing a simple webpage and some space for storage.
[22:00] <rusivi> bekks: If your looking to perform cloud services for others, Citrix tends to be the vendor dejoure for this.
[22:00] <clarezoe> hi, I cannot extend my desktop to my external monitor after upgrated to 10.10. I don't know where to start troubleshooting, anyone can give me a hand?
[22:01] <BluesKaj> Lowwe, pls use pastebin , photobucket isn't really great for text
[22:01] <BluesKaj> brb
[22:02] <bekks> rusivi: i just want a UEC for learning purposes wether it provides capabilities which could be useful for company needs or customer needs.
[22:29] <LBo> Does anyone know what's the status of GDM multiseat in 10.10?
[22:38] <Mouldy_Punk> Hey guys. I've just installed netbook remix 10.10 on my acer aspire one and so far so good except one little thing. The battery notification icon didn't appear at all until I set it to always show. Now it thinks my netbook's always plugged in, even when it's not. The screen dims when it's unplugged, so it would seem the OS knows when it's being unplugged.
[22:38] <Mouldy_Punk> This (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1400322) thread sums up my problem exactly but unfortunately has no posted solution
[22:51] <phil42> hello fellow maverick users  (maverick x86_64 diskless)
[22:52] <phil42> (rc)
[22:55] <alexandre> allo
[23:02] <luftikuss> LBo Me too.
[23:10] <bekks> Geez, i have my first cloud running :)
[23:10] <phil42> how many nodes?
[23:11] <bekks> first cloud - one node at all. currently installing a second one :)
[23:11] <bekks> I'm just SO proud :D
[23:11]  * phil42 smiles :)
[23:12] <bekks> the next step is to have both nodes in one cloud - small steps, one by one :)
[23:19] <BUGabundo> great
[23:19] <BUGabundo> now I've lost my mic support
[23:20] <phil42> the mixer comes up with all the devices hidden
[23:20] <penguin42> phil42: Running diskless? With NFS?
[23:21] <BUGabundo> guud evening everyone
[23:21] <penguin42> Hi there Bugs
[23:21] <phil42> live toram
[23:21] <penguin42> phil42: Ah OK; that's more normal :-)
[23:25] <anon33_> is there a solution to the laptop's screen being unavailable (when connected to an external display) when resumed from hibernate/suspend?
[23:25] <bekks> just to get the idea of the cloud - i have cluster controller, storage controller, node controller on one box. all i need on the other nodes is the node controller to provision space for something and everything else to "my cloud"?
[23:25] <anon33_> current laptop is macbook pro
[23:26] <kpoman> hi all !
[23:26] <kpoman> guys do someone know how to get ati prop drivers working on 10.10 ?
[23:26] <kpoman> is there any howto or work going on ?
[23:27] <JanC> anybody else experienced problems with an intel gigabit nic (e1000e driver) only associating at 100 Mbit/s with a gigabit switch?  (judging from what google returns, this driver seems to have a history of similar problems for years now :-/ )
[23:27] <JanC> kpoman: is your GPU supported?
[23:28] <JanC> many older GPUs are supported by the open source drivers now, and not anymore by the closed source one
[23:29] <BUGabundo> a few days ago, I run a tool that showed me the RPM speed of my disk
[23:29] <BUGabundo> and now I can't recall which it was :(
[23:29] <kpoman> JanC: yes, Ati FireGL 5250
[23:29] <kpoman> JanC: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M56GL [Mobility FireGL V5250]
[23:31] <penguin42> BUGabundo: hdparm --something?
[23:31] <BUGabundo> syre, but what?
[23:32] <BUGabundo> not i or I or t or T
[23:32] <penguin42> BUGabundo: -I does it for me
[23:32] <bekks> hdparm -i and google the exact disc :)
[23:33] <penguin42> 'Nominal Media Rotation Rate: 7200'
[23:33] <penguin42> wow, it has a WWN - I didn't know that
[23:33] <BUGabundo> maybe it doesn't work oever e-sata
[23:34] <BUGabundo> $ sudo hdparm  -iI /dev/sdb | grep Nominal
[23:34] <BUGabundo>  returns nothing
[23:35] <JackNocturne> help with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9933049
[23:36] <JanC> kpoman: I'm pretty sure that card isn't supported in the closed source drivers anymore, is anything wrong with the open source ones?
[23:38] <kpoman> JanC: it was until catalyst 8.3 as I am seeing right now
[23:38] <kpoman> can I just install catalyst 8.3 on 10.10 ?
[23:39] <bekks> No.
[23:39] <JanC> probably not, unless you also install an older Xorg and an older kernel  ;)
[23:40] <JanC> kpoman: the open source drivers work fine in general
[23:40] <kpoman> JanC: they work fine, however I want to game a bt
[23:40] <kpoman> nexuiz etc..
[23:40] <JanC> yeah, maybe still slower
[23:40] <kpoman> oops
[23:45] <duffydack> if you like a high powered fan
[23:46] <kpoman> JanC: you think the opensource driver could handle an fps game ?
[23:47] <JanC> kpoman: try it?
[23:47] <kpoman> 520MB ;)
[23:48] <JanC> probably depends on settings & such
[23:48] <kpoman> aha
[23:48] <kpoman> can I check on Xorg logs if it will run ? like grepping dri or whatever ?
[23:49] <JanC> kpoman: it probably supports OpenGL 2.1 (or at least 1.4)
[23:49] <kpoman> ok I will download then
[23:50] <BUGabundo> 	Nominal Media Rotation Rate: 5900
[23:50] <BUGabundo> funny only one of my 3 disks says the speed
[23:53] <Marshall1528> buenass
[23:55] <kpoman> another simple question
[23:55] <kpoman> suppose I install a service under wine
[23:56] <kpoman> how do I know the name of the service (for the net start command) ?
[23:56] <rjhall> hi.  I have a ppt that when i open in openoffice causes X to die (on maverick)
[23:57] <rjhall> all apps close - x restarts and i'm back at the login prompt.  Not good :(
[23:57] <rjhall> where do i go for diagnosis/troubleshooting/bug reports?