[00:00] <penguin42> Can someone have a serious word with the wiki server; I keep getting internal errors from it when saving
[00:37] <greg-g> jcastro: heya, I just got 3 emails from LP about the auto-expirey setting for some projects I set up in LP so I could do upstream bug links. What do you suggest I do?
[00:37] <greg-g> bdmurray: ^^ same question for you
[00:38] <greg-g> either set the auto-expirey on or keep it off
[00:38] <jcastro> I dunno, I got a ton of them and haven't read them
[00:38] <greg-g> They all say the same thing except the <project name> is different :)
[00:39] <bdmurray> greg-g: do nothing
[00:48] <rusivi> I got one for realplayerforlinux and I'm not even maintainer, I just created it.
[00:48] <rusivi> So I could upstream to real tracker.
[00:58] <greg-g> bdmurray: thanks buddy
[00:58] <greg-g> jcastro:  <  bdmurray> greg-g: do nothing
[01:52] <hggdh> heh. yahoo.com is now rejecting email from LP "due to user complaints". I could not care less...
[01:53] <penguin42> I guess they have people to talk to about stuff like that
[01:55] <hggdh> they do. But the only possible complainants are those that requested email from LP in the first place
[01:55] <penguin42> yeh but given tehy'll be yahoo users now validly missing stuff their abuse system will need to sort it out; I'm sure they have mechanisms for dealing with it
[01:56] <hggdh> I will wait and see
[01:57] <hggdh> ok. time for a reboot to see if my issue on init's mounted-tmp is bypassed
[02:52] <hggdh> OK, I got it -- the init script mouted-tmp uses find, -- so /usr must be mounted for it to work
[02:52] <hggdh> (5 reboots and one rescue later)
[02:52] <hggdh> now, for a bug...
[03:33] <RedSingularity> hggdh you here?
[03:35] <micahg> RedSingularity: can I help with something?
[03:36] <RedSingularity> Yeah i have a bug that has been untouched by the user for a few months.  What should i mark it as?  I dont think he is coming back.
[03:36] <micahg> RedSingularity: bug #?
[03:36] <RedSingularity> bug 522475
[03:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 522475 in firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) "No display images in standart java module (affects: 1) (heat: 13)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522475
[03:39] <micahg> RedSingularity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Incomplete%20bugs%20without%20a%20response%20from%20submitter
[03:40] <RedSingularity> micahg thanks a lot :)
[03:42] <micahg> RedSingularity: np
[04:10] <RedSingularity> micahg Should we ask to have the importance level of something set on a bug we are working on?
[04:10] <hggdh> pfui
[04:10] <micahg> hggdh: pfui?
[04:11] <hggdh> micahg: two shots of wisky do not help life
[04:11] <micahg> RedSingularity: you can, the only time you *have* to is if it's urgent or it's being set to triaged
[04:11] <micahg> hggdh: heh
[04:11] <hggdh> RedSingularity: we should always try to get the importance of a bug as soon as possible
[04:12]  * micahg sits corrected :)
[04:12] <RedSingularity> Oh ok,  I will start looking though mine then.
[04:12] <RedSingularity> *through*
[04:17] <hggdh> the point is we can always change the importance, but this sets the expectations
[04:18] <kklimonda> good morning
[04:18] <RedSingularity> good evening here :)
[04:19] <kklimonda> yeah, the joys of diverse community - it's always an evening for someone :)
[04:20] <RedSingularity> Almost morning though.....2320 here
[04:21] <kklimonda> heh, 0520
[04:21] <kklimonda> no idea why have I woken up so early..
[04:21] <RedSingularity> Wow your and early bird!
[04:21] <RedSingularity> *an*
[04:22] <kklimonda> well, not really but I did went to sleep before midnight so that's probably the reason.
[04:31] <hggdh> and I have not gotten to bed yet...
[04:33] <micahg> kklimonda: you're not MOTU are you
[04:33] <kklimonda> micahg: no :/
[04:34] <chelz> is there a list somewhere of blocking bugs for maverick?
[04:34] <kklimonda> micahg: any particular reason for asking?
[04:34] <micahg> kklimonda: I need a sponsor in a bout an hour
[04:35] <micahg> chelz: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-10.10
[04:36] <kklimonda> micahg: just ask on #-motu and someone will show up as always :)
[04:36] <micahg> kklimonda: I know :)
[04:36] <micahg> just always good to plan ahhead
[04:36] <kklimonda> sure
[04:37] <kklimonda> micahg: btw, why have some "random" firefox extensions survived the cleansing?
[04:37] <micahg> kklimonda: either very popular or arch specific
[04:38] <kklimonda> micahg: and why isn't livehttpheaders one of them? ;)
[04:38] <micahg> kklimonda: bdrung promised to maintain it :)
[04:38] <chelz> micahg: thanks. i do remember seeing something like that. are all the bugs really going to be fixed? i mean, do any bugs get relabeled to make the ship date?
[04:38] <micahg> oh, its gone
[04:38] <micahg> nm then...
[04:39]  * micahg checks
[04:39] <kklimonda> yeah, it got removed because there was no version compatible with 2.6.x
[04:39] <kklimonda> 3.6.x
[04:39] <micahg> chelz: some times, what are you looking for
[04:39] <micahg> kklimonda: ah, yes :), that's teh reason
[04:41] <micahg> kklimonda: and it's arch all
[04:41] <hggdh> chelz: you can search for high/critical bugs, either nominated to maverick, or targeted to 10.10
[04:41] <chelz> micahg: oh, just curious. i was mostly looking for a good barometer of whether or not a release date is likely to be hit and i think the milestone bug list is satisfactory
[04:41] <kklimonda> micahg: it's a problem?
[04:41] <micahg> chelz: we almost always hit the release date
[04:41] <micahg> kklimonda: no
[04:41] <hggdh> chelz: so far we seem to be on track
[04:41] <chelz> hggdh: is there an easy way to search for bugs that were targeted to 10.10 but aren't any longer?
[04:41] <micahg> kklimonda: just no reason to add it back
[04:42] <hggdh> chelz: not really. If the target was dropped, there is no way to find it
[04:42] <kklimonda> micahg: because it can be easily installed from addons.mozilla.org ?
[04:42] <micahg> kklimonda: right
[04:42] <chelz> ah
[04:43] <chelz> does launchpad.net get faster if you make an account?
[04:43] <hggdh> heh. No, it will still be the same
[04:43] <kklimonda> that actually makes sense - especially in the light of our discussion on u-d about how to change the way we distribute software.
[04:43] <kklimonda> chelz: you have to be a member of a secret group for LP to get faster.. unfortunately no one is :/
[04:44] <kklimonda> but there are rumors that LP admins are using it and that's why they don't care LP is so slow for anybody alse.
[04:44] <hggdh> oh, nasty, nasty :-)
[04:45] <kklimonda> everbody else even.
[04:45] <kklimonda> I still prefer slow LP to other BTS though.
[04:45] <chelz> is the speed of lp seen as a problem? as in, are things being done or at least planned to be done to fix it?
[04:45] <micahg> chelz: yes
[04:46] <AbhiJit> hi
[04:46] <chelz> micahg: any kind of blueprint or something? or just mailinglist stuff?
[04:48] <micahg> chelz: the LP team doesn't use blueprints, they use bugs, IRC, and their ML
[04:49] <chelz> oh
[04:49] <chelz> are there separate bugs for launchpad.net versus the launchpad code?
[04:49] <hggdh> chelz: yes, the LP performance *is* seen as problem, and it is being looked at by LP developers
[04:49] <micahg> chelz: launchpad.net is the launchpad code
[04:50] <chelz> micahg: well the launchpad.net site being slow i would guess isn't necessarily a fault of the code. i'm sure it's been suggested, but if more hardware would speed things up, i say go for it
[04:51] <micahg> chelz: you sponsoring?
[04:51] <hggdh> chelz: it is already a series of machines...
[04:51] <hggdh> micahg: good question!
[04:51] <chelz> micahg: of course, with my *full* moral support
[04:51] <hggdh> LOL
[04:52] <chelz> good feelings emanating from me right now like none other
[04:52] <hggdh> but they are looking at it... one of the things to keep in mind is the massive database(s) size(s)
[04:52] <micahg> chelz: while, that's greatly appreciated, I"m not sure how many super servers can be acquired with that :)
[04:53] <chelz> ah, well. at least it's being talked about i guess
[04:53] <chelz> that's good
[04:56] <hggdh> chelz: not only talked about, but actively pursued...
[05:05]  * hggdh hits the bed now
[05:17] <RedSingularity> I have a few bugs that need an importance level set.  Can anyone in here help me?
[05:19] <AbhiJit> RedSingularity, paste the bug address here. if anyone free then they wl have a look
[05:20] <RedSingularity> The following bugs need a "Low" level set.  bug 522475
[05:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 522475 in firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) "No display images in standart java module (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522475
[05:20] <RedSingularity> bug 654726
[05:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 654726 in firefox (Ubuntu) "flashplayer plugin is stopping sound (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654726
[05:20] <RedSingularity> bug 654898
[05:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 654898 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport-collect requires firefox closure (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654898
[05:20] <RedSingularity> bug 654916
[05:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 654916 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) "Gnome Panel Painting Incorrectly (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654916
[05:20] <micahg> RedSingularity: why is 522475 Low?
[05:20] <RedSingularity> bug 654954
[05:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 654954 in ibus (Ubuntu) "[iBus] "Do you want to start it now ?" message displayed twice (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654954
[05:20] <RedSingularity> bug 655405
[05:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 655405 in evolution (Ubuntu) "evolution calendar-, task- and notivication-lists crashes by opening (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/655405
[05:21] <micahg> RedSingularity: same with 654726
[05:21] <RedSingularity> micahg: It is really no threat whatsoever.  Is it?
[05:21] <micahg> RedSingularity: have you read the !importance criteria?
[05:22]  * micahg wonders where ubot2 is
[05:22] <micahg> !importance | RedSingularity
[05:22] <ubot2> RedSingularity: You can learn about setting bug importance at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
[05:22] <RedSingularity> Let me see.....standby
[05:24] <RedSingularity> micahg: I am going to bookmark that thanks.  But they seem to be a "low" status looking at the criteria dont they?  I mean they are nothing major.
[05:26] <micahg> RedSingularity: no sound in flash would at least be medium, no display image would also qualify as Medium IMHO
[05:28] <RedSingularity> micahg:  Hmmmm i guess your right now that I am thinking about it.  Can you mark them accordingly for me?
[05:29] <cwillu> Heh, ending a filename with a tilde makes it disappear from nautilus' sftp view, but not on a local filesystem in nautilus, nor in ~/.gvfs/sftp on whatever/ from a terminal
[05:29] <micahg> RedSingularity: why are you suggesting Lucid workarounds for Maverick?
[05:29] <RedSingularity> Which one?
[05:29] <micahg> RedSingularity: 654726
[05:30] <RedSingularity> Oh i think that it may just be a corruption in his current alsa config.  I think if he reinstalls or upgrades it may fix it.
[05:32] <micahg> RedSingularity: well, you should ask the user to clarify 1.  If the user is on Maverick or Lucid since the user mentions Lucid and apport said maverick, 2.  Whether or not it's reproducible w/Firefox, 3.  Whether or not it's reproducible with another browser (Epiphany, rekonq, midori)
[05:33] <RedSingularity> micahg:  Indeed, i will do so now.  Thanks for the suggestion :)
[05:34] <RedSingularity> micahg:  No way to edit or delete my last comment on launchpad?
[05:35] <AbhiJit> no
[05:51] <RedSingularity> micahg:  bug 654916 seems to qualify for "low"
[05:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 654916 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) "Gnome Panel Painting Incorrectly (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654916
[07:08] <RedSingularity> Is there a way to clear the "apport-collect" validation?  I want to bes asked to validate next time i run apport-collect.
[07:09] <RedSingularity> Typo---- I want to *be*
[07:14] <bullgard4> The applet »Disk Mounter« does not re-appear after suspending and resuming if I have left an USB thumb drive. Where to report this bug in Launchpad? To associate my report to what package?
[07:15] <bullgard4> The applet »Disk Mounter« does not re-appear after suspending and resuming if I have left on an USB thumb drive. Where to report this bug in Launchpad? To associate my report to what package?
[07:15] <micahg> bullgard4: where did you get the applet?
[07:16] <bullgard4> micahg: This applet usually appears when I plug in my external USB hdd.
[07:17] <micahg> bullgard4: UBuntu?
[07:17] <micahg> GNOME I mean?
[07:17] <bullgard4> of course
[07:17] <bullgard4> Yes, I am using GNOME.
[07:22] <micahg> bullgard4: idk...
[07:38] <bullgard4> hm
[13:42] <seb128> jibel, hey
[13:42] <seb128> jibel, will you fix that deskbar-applet, tracker bug or did you just triage it?
[13:43] <jibel> seb128, I just triaged. Feel free to fix it.
[13:44] <seb128> jibel, ok, trying to find somebody in #ubuntu-desktop interested
[13:45] <jibel> seb128, great, thank you. I continue reviewing the upgrade failures.
[13:45] <seb128> thanks for your work on that
[13:45] <seb128> I hate those bugs, they are most of time assigned to the wrong components
[13:46] <seb128> quite some of those are either corruption or one of the postinst commands crashing without details
[14:05] <algnod> hi, I have confirmed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/655579 can anyone set this to triaged, thank you
[14:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 655579 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution Calendar Window Jump! (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[14:05] <pedro_> algnod, looking
[14:06] <Sulumar> Hello
[14:06] <pedro_> algnod, looks like the 'evolution calendar window too big to fit a x600 resolution"
[14:06] <pedro_> algnod, which resolution are you using there?
[14:07] <Sulumar> I Just wanted to introduce myself as said on the wiki page
[14:07] <algnod> pedro_ would have to check dont have it right now
[14:08] <pedro_> algnod, ok , could you please do it later and comment on the report?
[14:08] <pedro_> hello Sulumar!
[14:10] <Sulumar> im searching ways to help Ubuntu and found you on the way
[14:11] <Sulumar> so where to start ??
[14:12] <pedro_> Sulumar, if you want to help by triaging bug reports you can start by reading our documentation available at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage/
[14:12] <pedro_> Sulumar, and check our list of easy tasks which is at : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/EasyTasks/
[14:12] <pedro_> and if you want to you can also request a mentor to help you
[14:13] <pedro_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors
[14:13] <Sulumar> thx reading
[14:13] <pedro_> you're welcome, if you have any question just ask here in the channel
[14:13] <Gigacore> hey Sulumar, welcome
[14:17] <jibel> seb128, bug 633370, I've seen a few of those but the most recent is from 2010-09-08
[14:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 633370 in gconf (Ubuntu) "package gconf2 2.31.91-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: No such file or directory: '/usr/share/gconf/defaults/20-edubuntu' (affects: 6) (dups: 7) (heat: 62)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633370
[14:17] <seb128> no clue about that, it's weird
[14:18] <seb128> the gconf-register command just go through the files in the dir
[14:18] <seb128> it would mean something remove the files while the command is running
[14:18] <seb128> dunno how that could happen though
[14:20] <jibel> it only affects maverick.
[15:05] <Sulumar> Sorry to bother you but i cant change the Lpocal time in my Ubuntu Wiki Profile any idea why
[15:05] <Sulumar> ?
[15:17] <hggdh> Sulumar: on the right side, top, click on User Preferences
[15:18] <Sulumar> the Drop down menu is grey
[15:18] <Sulumar> so no chance but ill set it in Launchpad
[16:27] <mortal> why are the xorg packages pinned on i386?
[16:27] <mortal> maveick
[16:46] <AbhiJit> hey
[16:46] <AbhiJit> oye
[16:47] <AbhiJit> this user says that this bug no longer exits in his system.
[16:47] <AbhiJit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/654424
[16:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 654424 in gdm (Ubuntu) "Login screen is stretched in widescreens (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Low,Incomplete]
[16:47] <AbhiJit> should i mark it as invalid?
[16:48] <pedro_> AbhiJit, yes please
[16:48] <AbhiJit> pedro_, ok
[16:48] <pedro_> AbhiJit, make sure to comment on it on why you're closing it
[16:48] <pedro_> thanks AbhiJit
[16:48] <AbhiJit> pedro_, ok
[16:49] <AbhiJit> pedro_, just to confirm - invalid=closing of bug? right?
[16:49] <pedro_> AbhiJit, yes
[16:49] <AbhiJit> pedro_, ok :)
[17:33] <AbhiJit> Gigacore, hey u thr?
[17:34] <Gigacore> AbhiJit: yes
[17:34] <AbhiJit> Gigacore, may i pm you?
[17:34] <Gigacore> AbhiJit: sure
[17:45] <charlie-tca> A helpful reminder: QA meeting in 15 minutes in #ubuntu-quality
[17:46] <pedro_> thanks charlie-tca
[17:46] <charlie-tca> no problem
[19:41] <_oo__anand__oo_> l;lk
[19:55] <njin> pedro_: launching ?
[19:55] <pedro_> njin, no :-P
[20:00] <bcurtiswx_> pedro_, the reason i put myself as chair for next meeting was because i didn't know if there was one set last meeting.  Was there?
[20:00] <pedro_> bcurtiswx_, i don't think we choose one at the previous, no
[20:01] <bcurtiswx_> pedro_, OK, good.  Thx.
[20:01] <pedro_> bcurtiswx_, if you're going to be around at that time you can chair it ;-)
[20:01] <pedro_> hggdh, ^
[20:01] <bcurtiswx_> i have had myself on the wiki as chair for a while already :P
[20:02] <pedro_> bcurtiswx_, i tend to chair those but i'm not going to be around next Tuesday because it's a national holiday here so i asked hggdh for help on that
[20:02] <hggdh> then bcurtiswx_ it is, by acclamation
[20:02] <pedro_> bcurtiswx_, thanks for offering ;-))
[20:02] <bcurtiswx_> hggdh probably just breathed a sigh of relief
[20:02] <bcurtiswx_> lol
[20:02] <bcurtiswx_> np
[20:02] <pedro_> hahahaha
[20:02] <hggdh> LOL
[20:03] <hggdh> pedro_: I am going to approve JamesPage for -control -- ok with you?
[20:04] <pedro_> hggdh, yeap!
[20:21] <RedSingularity> Hey everyone
[20:24] <RedSingularity> I have a bug that the person can reproduce at will but I am not sure how I can try to do it on my machine since it involves the apport-collect command which will send data automatically to launchpad.  Have a look?  bug 654898
[20:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 654898 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport-collect requires firefox closure (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654898
[20:24] <micahg> RedSingularity: yofel was supposed to take care of that bug :)
[20:24] <micahg> RedSingularity: basically apport-collect shouldn't be run as sudo so that firefox isn't run as sudo
[20:25] <micahg> RedSingularity: but it's a little more complicated
[20:25] <RedSingularity> So should I tell him that the bug is going to be passed to yofel?
[20:26] <micahg> RedSingularity: you can just let yofel answer it, if he's around :0
[20:26] <micahg> :)
[20:26]  * micahg is amazed that people pick some of the hardest bugs as their first few...
[20:27] <RedSingularity> micahg:  lol
[20:27] <RedSingularity> micahg: Alright i guess i can un-subscribe??
[20:28] <hggdh> RedSingularity: yes, you can -- or keep on and there is a good chance of learning something new
[20:28] <micahg> RedSingularity: up to you if you want to follow, what hggdh said :)
[20:29] <RedSingularity> Ok i will keep an eye on it.  Thanks :)
[20:54] <RedSingularity> Rebooting computer........
[20:56] <njin> pedro_: sorry, conn. problem, can you take a look if i link  ok?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/655082
[20:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 655082 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[Gnome3]gnome-shell hangs when switching back from another tty (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[20:57] <pedro_> njin, sure
[20:58] <pedro_> njin, you might want to ask for the version of gnome shell the reporter is using and update the upstream report
[20:58] <njin> pedro_. ok thanks again
[20:58] <pedro_> njin, set the bug to confirmed if you send it upstream or triaged if you have the rights
[20:59] <njin> pedro_: i don't have the right
[20:59] <pedro_> njin, confirmed then and i mark it as triaged for you later
[21:00] <njin> ok, thanks
[21:00] <pedro_> you're welcome
[21:05] <njin> pedro_: done, when reporter reply i ping you to triage it, now i disconnect to testing oem, good night, see you tomorrow
[21:05] <pedro_> njin, good night! see you :-)
[21:23] <micahg> RedSingularity: that's the annouce channel, I shouldn't have asked the question in there
[21:24] <RedSingularity> micahg:  I was wondering why we were in there......
[21:24] <yofel> micahg, RedSingularity: actually I wanted to talk to pitti first how that's supposed to work, I just didn't get to it yet, I skimmed the code a bit and open_url() does have some sudo handling
[21:24] <micahg> yofel: right, i remember
[21:25] <yofel> actually, running 'sudo ubuntu-bug bash' properly opens a new tab in my already open firefox window here..
[21:25] <micahg> yofel: that's good at least
[21:32] <yofel> right, using the command apport uses for KDE by hand works fine, so it's probably something with the gnome way to open the browser
[21:45] <yofel> hm, for gnome it tries to get the command from gconf /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/command which results in something like 'sudo -H -u \#1000 firefox -new-window http://launchpad.net' here, but that works fine
[21:46] <njin> hello, i've to report a bug with the missed icon of software sources in ubuntu 20101006.2, but if I launch ubuntu-bug software-sources-properties, it tell me that this is not a genuine package
[21:47] <njin> I've tried to laiunch software-properties, but won't go
[21:47] <njin> don't exist
[21:48] <yofel> njin: it's either software-properties-gtk or -kde
[21:49] <njin> gtk
[21:49] <charlie-tca> but hasn't software sources been intentionally removed from the defaults now?
[21:49]  * micahg thought it was integrated in software center
[21:49] <njin> i don't know
[21:49] <yofel> charlie-tca: it's removed from the menu, but still installed
[21:49] <yofel> (and accessible by software-center / synaptic)
[21:52] <njin> ok found it , thanks guys
[21:55] <dyfet> I believe bug #635764 can now be marked as triaged
[21:55] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 635764 in plt-scheme (Ubuntu) "PLT Scheme is now Racket (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/635764
[21:56] <njin> another problem, during instal i select italian lang, but i have by default the main server and there i cannot found my lang ack
[21:56] <njin> *pack
[21:57] <njin> they are only in italian serever
[21:57] <njin> yofel: sorry if disturb ^^
[21:58] <yofel> huh, the mirrors shouldn't be any different from the main server, so that shouldn't happen
[22:00] <hggdh> huh?
[22:01] <hggdh> the lang packs should be in main also
[22:02] <hggdh> (at least mine are -- English, French, and Portuguese)
[22:05] <yofel> dyfet: is it really a rename? I found debian bug 592688 - but that's about creating a completely new package
[22:05] <ubot2> Debian bug 592688 in plt-scheme "RFP: racket -- Racket is a programming language" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/592688
[22:05] <dyfet> Is it? I thought it was a rename/fork...
[22:09] <dyfet> yofel: http://racket-lang.org/new-name.html
[22:09] <yofel> right, I'm just reading it
[22:09] <dyfet> So as noted I think the bug is ultimately correct, just premature :)
[22:13] <RedSingularity> I have just confirmed a bug.  Can anyone here help me?
[22:14] <yofel> right, seems like a rename, should be done in debian though. I'm not sure if we can just link that packaging bug..
[22:14] <yofel> RedSingularity: just ask
[22:14] <RedSingularity> It seems to have a High importance rating as well.
[22:14] <dyfet> Thats what I said, has to happen in Debian first...I think it's clear what needs to be done, so thats why I am suggesting it can be marked triaged
[22:15] <RedSingularity> yofel: bug 655951
[22:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 655951 in xfce4-terminal (Ubuntu) "TERM environment variable not set (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/655951
[22:15] <yofel> dyfet: right, but for the bug to be marked triaged, there should be a reference to a debian bug that takes care of that
[22:16] <micahg> RedSingularity: why high?
[22:16] <micahg> RedSingularity: is it a regression?
[22:16] <dyfet> The closest is debian 592688, but that bug is wrong in debian, it should be noted as a rename of the existing plt-scheme there too :)
[22:16] <ubot2> Debian bug 592688 in plt-scheme "RFP: racket -- Racket is a programming language" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/592688
[22:16] <RedSingularity> micahg:  It effects all the installations of Xubuntu 10.10 64 bit
[22:16] <micahg> RedSingularity: of which how many people use xfce4-terminal?
[22:17] <charlie-tca> RedSingularity: that is a duplicate
[22:17] <micahg> RedSingularity: just because a bug exists, doesn't mean it's high priority
[22:17] <micahg> charlie-tca: even better :)
[22:17] <RedSingularity> Where is the duplicate?
[22:19] <charlie-tca> I'm looking
[22:19] <charlie-tca> I don't the number off the top of my head, but I do know it is a duplicate. It gets filed every couple of days
[22:19] <dyfet> yofel: it matches with debian bug 593614
[22:19] <ubot2> Debian bug 593614 in plt-scheme "Request: upgrade PLT Scheme to Racket" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/593614
[22:20] <RedSingularity> charlie-tca:  So if I mark it as a duplicate will it ask me to link it to the other bug?
[22:20] <charlie-tca> yes
[22:20] <charlie-tca> you need some patience
[22:20] <charlie-tca> try bug 621927
[22:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 621927 in xfce4-terminal (Ubuntu) (and 8 other projects) "Embedded Terminal Emulator isn't giving a TERM variable (affects: 68) (dups: 16) (heat: 364)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/621927
[22:21] <yofel> dyfet: which was marked as a dup of the other one, ok, link the RFP bug and I'll set it triaged
[22:23] <RedSingularity> charlie-tca:  In bug 621927 there are many packages it effects.  Should I mark the package xfce-terminal as confirmed?  Thats the one i tested.
[22:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 621927 in xfce4-terminal (Ubuntu) (and 8 other projects) "Embedded Terminal Emulator isn't giving a TERM variable (affects: 68) (dups: 16) (heat: 364)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/621927
[22:23] <charlie-tca> Just mark the new bug as a duplicate of 621927
[22:23] <dyfet> linked to upstream bug
[22:24] <charlie-tca> and write that master bug number down, since it will be reported again tomorrow
[22:25] <yofel> dyfet: done
[22:25] <RedSingularity> charlie-tca:  How did you go about searching for a duplicate?
[22:26] <charlie-tca> I follow all the bugs concerning Xubuntu and Xfce, I already knew about it
[22:26] <rusivi> Regarding bug 605141 I just tested in newest WINE 1.3.4 no downloading hanging. Looks fixed.
[22:26] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 605141 in wine1.2 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "iTunes 7.7.1.11 downloading hangs in Wine (affects: 1) (heat: 47)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605141
[22:26] <RedSingularity> Ohhhh
[22:26] <micahg> RedSingularity: first thing to do is check the bugs in the same source
[22:26] <charlie-tca> I have a listing on my computer here with all the bugs I am tracking
[22:26] <micahg> rusivi: ok, but what about in the maverick version?
[22:27] <rusivi> in Maverick
[22:27] <rusivi> :)
[22:27] <micahg> rusivi: 1.3.4 isn't in maverick
[22:27] <rusivi> It is for me
[22:27] <rusivi> hehe
[22:27] <micahg> rusivi: you know what I mean
[22:27] <charlie-tca> RedSingularity: but, to find it, you could do a launchpad bug search for "TERM missing"
[22:27] <rusivi> yes I do.
[22:27] <micahg> if you can confirm in maverick verison we can mark triaged and you can add a note that it's fixes in 1.3.4
[22:28] <rusivi> I'll make a note of my findings in the bug. Would you also like me to mark as New?
[22:29] <micahg> rusivi: if you can confirm in 1.2 in maverick, then I'll mark it triaged
[22:30] <RedSingularity> charlie-tca:  Why am i getting so few bugs under xfce4-terminal?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal
[22:30] <charlie-tca> because there are very few against that package.
[22:31] <RedSingularity> charlie-tca but the one i found is against that package and even that is not listed there.....
[22:31] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu is much smaller than Ubuntu
[22:32] <charlie-tca> yes it is listed. The last bug shown in the list
[22:32] <charlie-tca> The new one isn't shown
[22:33] <RedSingularity> charlie-tca:  Should i make a note that I confirmed it in xfce4-terminal?
[22:35] <charlie-tca> You can if you want, but it is not needed. There are plenty of duplicates there, and that bug is already kind of a mess
[22:35] <charlie-tca> We don't know for sure where the bug really is, since it affects do many packages
[22:36] <hggdh> charlie-tca: there is no option to reinstall GRUB on the rescue anymore?
[22:36] <charlie-tca> there isn't?
[22:36] <hggdh> not on the server install, at least (64bits)...
[22:37] <hggdh> and I do not remember hearing it would be taken out
[22:37] <charlie-tca> there is no option to run fsck, I thought grub was still there, though
[22:37] <charlie-tca> That is on the recovery menu, right?
[22:37] <hggdh> on the rescue option for an install
[22:38] <charlie-tca> I have a fresh Ubuntu install, let me look
[22:38] <charlie-tca> rescue, not recovery, huh/
[22:40] <charlie-tca> looking at the ubuntu alternate image
[22:41] <hggdh> as far as I can remember (which is not really _that_ far), it would be under rescue a broken system
[22:42] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu alternate "Rescue a broken system" has "Reinstall GRUB boot loader
[22:43] <charlie-tca> Maybe it got left off the server image, by mistake.
[22:47] <charlie-tca> hggdh: we seem to have the GRUB on both images, 32 and 64 bit
[22:58] <hggdh> this is really weird
[22:59] <hggdh> I will try now the 32bit image
[23:02] <charlie-tca> Somebody trimmed one package or option too many?
[23:02] <hggdh> I think it is a chance, or someone decided to drop it from the server
[23:02] <hggdh> no, neither in i386
[23:03] <charlie-tca> Seems like a bad change
[23:03] <slinker> I have four bugs that I think are ready to be triaged, can I paste the links that I confirmed?
[23:03] <slinker> to the pages I confirmed*
[23:07] <charlie-tca> Give bug followed by number, and the importance they should be set to
[23:17] <slinker> Firefox "help->release notes" gives ubuntu notes not firefox notes #642415 low
[23:17] <micahg> slinker: duplicate
[23:18] <slinker> of?
[23:18] <slinker> 2nd or later attempts at sending gmail password fail #642475 low
[23:18] <slinker> I'll find it
[23:18] <slinker> actually
[23:18] <slinker> sorry
[23:18] <micahg> bug 274605
[23:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 274605 in ubufox (Ubuntu Jaunty) (and 2 other projects) "Firefox release notes show Ubuntu release notes (affects: 14) (dups: 6) (heat: 35)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274605
[23:18] <charlie-tca> still valid
[23:19] <slinker> thank you
[23:19] <charlie-tca> but I thought it was wishlist already
[23:19] <charlie-tca> My mistake, it is low already
[23:20] <charlie-tca> the jaunty task will be invalid the end of the month
[23:20] <micahg> charlie-tca: Launchpad should take care of those
[23:20] <BUGabundo> guud evening everyone
[23:20] <charlie-tca> Really?
[23:21] <charlie-tca> micahg: is that a new thing? It never did before
[23:21] <micahg> charlie-tca: hmm, I thought it did it for the intrepid tasks
[23:21] <slinker> Software Center does not have scrollbar for 'In progress' view #642299 medium
[23:21] <slinker> low
[23:21] <charlie-tca> I might be wrong, but I thought we went through them and marked them
[23:21] <slinker> actually
[23:22] <slinker> shit :\
[23:22] <micahg> !ohmy | slinker
[23:22] <ubot2> slinker: Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.
[23:22] <charlie-tca> bug 642299
[23:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 642299 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Software Center does not have scrollbar for 'In progress' view (affects: 1) (heat: 203)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/642299
[23:22] <slinker> oh, sorry
[23:22] <charlie-tca> It has a spinner now, doesn't it?
[23:23] <slinker> you can't scroll down through the list
[23:23] <slinker> No padding between image and text in search/result dialog #641184 low
[23:24] <micahg> slinker: you can just do: bug XXXXXX importance
[23:25] <slinker> oh
[23:25] <charlie-tca> done 642299
[23:25] <slinker> sorry
[23:26] <slinker> bug 642299 low
[23:26] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 642299 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Software Center does not have scrollbar for 'In progress' view (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/642299
[23:26] <slinker> bug 641184 low
[23:26] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 641184 in rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store (Ubuntu) "No padding between image and text in search/result dialog (affects: 1) (heat: 182)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641184
[23:26] <slinker> thanks :)
[23:26] <charlie-tca> I don't touch ubuntuone anything.
[23:28] <slinker> bug 642475 low
[23:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 642475 in evolution (Ubuntu) "2nd or later attempts at sending gmail password fail (affects: 1) (heat: 203)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/642475
[23:29] <charlie-tca> um, Is that evolution error coming from evolution or GMail?
[23:29] <slinker> evolution
[23:30] <charlie-tca> If gmail is giving the error back to evolution, google is going to have to fix it
[23:31] <charlie-tca> micahg: do you work with evolution?
[23:32] <micahg> charlie-tca: no, just Thunderbird, but hggdh is known to have dabbled in it
[23:32] <charlie-tca> Mine is Claws-mail.
[23:32] <charlie-tca> hggdh: evolution bug?
[23:42] <hggdh> looking
[23:50] <hggdh> I just updated the bug with a request for a debug log
[23:50] <charlie-tca> thanks
[23:51] <hggdh> it does sound like a bug, but the second poster gives what seems a different scenario
[23:55] <hggdh> (and I also use claws-mail nowadays)
[23:56] <charlie-tca> Oh! I haven't used evolution since ...
[23:56] <charlie-tca> well, anyway, since I installed claws-mail