[00:00] iarp: if you want to execute a command as root, use "sudo ...". If you want a root shell, use "sudo -i" [00:01] tsrk: ah ha thanks, been a while since i've had to do this. [00:02] <_Neytiri_> iarp you can seta passeword for root, althoe its not advised [00:08] tsrk: ok so all of the systems now have the same local ip's. but none of of the systems connected to the modem can ping the systems that are connected to the wifi router. [00:09] but the modem shows those system in its routing table [00:09] oops [00:11] sorry that question from corpse was me [00:17] how do you increase the maximum number of open file descriptors for a "no-login" user? I have hard/soft limits for nofile in /etc/security/limits.conf, cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max/proc shows it in the millions, yet i stress test and my service can only open the same old 1024 [00:18] i can't even figure out how to check, ulimits doesn't really work unless you're in a shell [00:35] cfairles: for an upstart service, see "man 5 init" and add a "limit" line to the service's init file [00:40] kees, hm. i use stop-start-daemon [00:41] cfairles: if it's a sysvinit script, just add the call to "ulimit" in the /etc/init.d/ script [00:41] kees, ah [00:41] kees, yeah, maybe [00:43] error setting limit, operation not permitted hrm [00:44] close [00:53] I keep seeing "session required pam_limits.so", I don't see this in my /etc/pam.d/common-session though ... [00:53] keep seeing pam_limits.so mentioned in post about ulimits I should say === unreal_ is now known as unreal [01:38] Where can I find a description of what the purpose of each of the different kernels available from the repository are? I currently have a PAE kernel that I don't need (3GB of RAM is all that is supported by this server) so I am going to move to a different kernel and I don't know which one to choose [01:45] demonspork: I would love to hear an answer about that, too. I've been unable to find any useful information about that. [01:46] Yesterday i asked: "Can anyone point me to documentation about the difference between linux-image-virtual and linux-image-generic, and whether or not VMware tools is necessary when running linux-image-virtual under VMware Server? I've searched Google and come up with no rationale for the existence of linux-image-virtual, nor any explanation of the difference between it and linux-image-generic. I can diff the kernel config fi [01:46] I got no response so far. === sailerboy is now known as zz_sailerboy === zz_sailerboy is now known as sailerboy [02:46] i'm creating separate volumes for boot, kernel, home and swap....what is recomended for each ? [02:53] <__Snooker__> I usually use for an installation / boot 100M, / 7G / usr 10G / var 10G / 1G swap depending on the amount of memory and / home the leftovers. [02:54] it's a 250gb HD small AMD box...with 2gb memory [02:55] <__Snooker__> sorry for english because I'm using a translator ... I do not speak English but I'm trying to learn. [02:55] no problem :) thanks for the help [02:56] New bug: #655442 in php5 "memory content leak when using invalid utf-8 with XMLWriter::writeAttribute" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/655442 [02:56] do i need to create seperate partitions for -> var (10gig) , usr(10gig) ? [02:57] <__Snooker__> on my laptop I used 500G / boot 120M, / 10G / 10G usr, / var 6G / 1G swap and the rest divided between / home and / srv. [03:00] <__Snooker__> recommend using lvm and store for future use 20G [03:14] okay great thank you === _Techie_ is now known as _TechAway_ [03:21] New bug: #586888 in upstart "euca_conf register-nodes Cannot find source keys directory" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586888 === _TechAway_ is now known as _Techie_ [04:05] do i have to setup networking before i install xinit package ? [04:25] <__Snooker__> mobasher, I think not ... you may need to install before. Then regardless of how it will work set === _Techie_ is now known as _TechAway_ [04:36] I'm trying to install ubuntu-server 10.04 on my atom N450 motherboard with no luck. It doesn't recognize the external USB CD-Rom and it can't find the driver for the onboard Ethernet. === _TechAway_ is now known as _Techie_ === sailerboy is now known as zz_sailerboy === zz_sailerboy is now known as sailerboy === sailerboy is now known as zz_sailerboy [07:01] demonspork: I've been looking for such a description myself, but have only found an articel on the difference between the -generic and -server kernel. [07:02] I don't know if you've seen it. [07:09] <_ruben> and -virtual is a stripped down version (module wise mostly) of -server, to reduce disk and memory footprint ... the 32bit -server kernel has been "replaced" by the -generic-pae kernel since the differences were too subtle to keep both around [07:10] <_ruben> the few remaining differences (schedulers and the like) can be changed at runtime [07:17] I don't know why people like headache are still trying to use optical media [07:24] <_ruben> ugh .. needa get my a bluetooth headset with proper noise cancelation .. talking on your cellphone in a dc aint fun :p [07:24] <_ruben> s/my/me [07:25] _ruben: district of columbia? [07:25] <_ruben> close ;) .. nah, just a noisy serverroom in a datacenter [07:25] Oh gods, I hate trying to do that [07:26] <_ruben> think there was a thread on nanog about headsets that'd perform good in these circumstances, doubt any "cheap" ones were listed ;) [07:27] Actually it's worse at our prisons, because cells aren't allowed, and the on-site monkey's office is like a twenty-minute walk from the machine room, etc, etc [07:27] s/cells/cellphones/, that is [07:27] <_ruben> heh, no cells in a prison, that'd be odd indeed ;) [07:29] Actually they have "cottages" === FireCrotch_ is now known as FireCrotch [07:57] Hello all. Can anyone help me getting Freetype2 working on my recently installed Ubuntu Server? I've managed to get mySql and PHP up running, and GDlib also works, except I can't draw text, so I'm trying to install freetype without much luck. [07:58] I have no experience with server installation as such, but my boss wants this solution I'm about to start developing, to be hosted internally. So Ubuntu Server it is. Only thing I'm missing is this freetype thingy, before I can get development started. [07:59] So far I've tried apt-get install most packages that has the word "freetype" or similar. No go. [08:11] mr_lou: it's probably libxft, but you doubtless need php5-something [08:12] It is php5 something. [08:12] * mr_lou tries libxft [08:12] php-image-text [08:12] Or php5-gd, if you don't already have that [08:13] Already install that libxft apparently. I'll try with the dev version too. [08:13] Wrong. [08:13] GDlib works fine. I can make images using e.g. imagecreatefrompng and such. Just can't draw on them using e.g. imagefttext [08:14] -dev packages are only needed for linking; if you need them at runtime your application is broken. [08:15] I see. [08:15] 18:12 php-image-text [08:15] No such package. [08:15] Actually ignore that. php5-gd depends on libfreetyp6, so clearly it's the right package. [08:15] There's php-image-barcode though. [08:16] If it doesn't work and php5-gd is installed, I can't help -- it becomes a PHP issue, of which I remain happily ignorant. [08:17] Must be something else. Since LAMP already sets up PHP5 + mySql + GDLib just fine, I'm betting this freetype thingy is also set up, and you're right that it could be a PHP thingy. [08:17] But the same code is running fine on 2 different external hosts. [08:17] * mr_lou tries rebooting the server [08:18] "Since LAMP already..." -- do you mean the checkbox during installation (tasksel)? [08:19] yea... never tried a LAMP installation before that takes care of all those things. [08:19] I know it's been around for ages, but as I said, I'm not a sysadm as such. [08:19] But pretty neat. [08:19] And although phpMyAdmin version is only 3.2.something, it's still fine. [08:20] OK, good. [08:26] twb: You don't like PHP? More of a Ruby guy then? [08:26] Har fucking har. [08:27] I see you have another religion then. [08:27] Which one? [08:27] As a sysadmin, I prefer libraries to be in C, with any glue on top in something quick-and-dirty like perl or python. [08:28] So python for webbased solution? [08:28] As a computer scientist, I'd really like a language with FP semantics and sexpr lexicography, but the real world is just too stupid for that. [08:29] The world is too stupid for many things. [08:29] mr_lou: IMO the whole "web" platform should FOAD. NeWS made sense, and the whole modern browser-as-a-platform phenomenon is an idiotic attempt to reinvent NeWS on top of totally inappropriate protocols. [08:29] Luckily I don't have that many demands. :-) [08:31] This is, obviously, dismissing the higher goal of keeping users off the network, since as we all know, THEY are the ones that break it. [08:31] I don't care about that. I'm happy doing web-solutions, so I'm not complaining. I believe it's true what they say about the future though. That apps and data of will be online. [08:31] I doubt I'll use it myself like that though. [08:31] I prefer my stuff to be local. [08:31] mr_lou: yeah... so we're back to the original bloody batch processing paradigm with a layer on wank on top. [08:32] yup [08:32] All new inventions are slower than the older ones. [08:32] Just look at new televisions. Just switching channel on our brand new Sony flatscreen takes much longer than on our old CRT. :-> [08:37] omg [08:37] twb: Fixed it. You were right. It was a PHP thingy. [08:37] Stupid [08:37] I have a weird index.cgi issue. They all now show as plaintext in the browser after I upgraded from Hardy LTS -> Lucid LTS. Everything checks out, +ExecCGI, perl -c = Syntax OK, files are executable, owned by www-data, nothing in the logs. Any ideas? [08:38] twb: Described here if you're curious under the headline "fontfile". http://dk2.php.net/manual/en/function.imagefttext.php [08:39] mr_lou: freetype is usually used with fontconfig to find font files [08:40] e.g. fc-match Monospace-24 ==> DejaVuSansMono.ttf: "DejaVu Sans Mono" "Book" [08:40] mkay [08:40] Adding this line worked: putenv('GDFONTPATH=' . realpath('.')); [08:40] mr_lou: bleh. So you're storing font files within the PHP code tree? [08:41] Yes [08:41] Typical PHP suckiness [08:41] It ought to be utilizing /usr/share/fonts [08:41] Well, initially I did it because it was hosted externally. [08:41] twb: Depends if you want it to be a solution that's easy to move or not. ;-) [08:42] Any server-setup I can avoid at a later stage, is good. [08:42] Anyway, coffee break. Thanks for the help twb. [09:37] #join django [09:37] lol..sorry...half asleep [10:16] Hi guys, I'm running the latest beta of ubuntu svr on a laptop. The laptop screen blanks every 5 mins or so. Anyone know how I can change that? [10:16] I dont *think* its a BIOS setting [10:17] DaveWhite: at the tty? [10:17] It's a tty setting. Read the setterm(1) manpage [10:18] I tried that, but it didn't seem to make a difference. Could it be that the settings aren't set immediately but only on the next session? [10:19] setterm affects the active tty only [10:19] e.g. if you log into tty1, it won't affect tty2 [10:19] Also, if you're running screen, the escape codes won't propagate through it to fbcon [10:19] Oh, and they'll be lost when you reboot, and *possibly* when you log out [10:20] not a big deal to set them permanently, but I have to try it again to see if I'm not going crazy. It might be a power setting on the laptop or something. [10:23] Thanks for your help twb, at least I know I was on the right path. [10:23] Yes, hardware could also be doing it in some way you can't get at [10:23] Note that there is blanking and there is powering down, and they're different [10:24] I just discovered that... I've set them BOTH to off for now, we'll see if that works [10:24] okey dokey === doko_ is now known as doko === _Techie_ is now known as _TechAway_ === _TechAway_ is now known as _Techie_ === _Techie_ is now known as _TechAway_ [11:13] Hey everyone, is it possible to downgrade a package? I believe an upgrade to openssl is now causing my lighttpd install fail on start [11:14] VoiDeT: officially, no [11:14] VoiDeT: unofficially, "good luck!" [11:15] hahaha awesome thanks twb [11:15] is there a way to still use aptitude to upgrade lighttpd to 1.4.28 ? [11:15] It depends largely on how "clever" the packaging is. For example, downgrading mg would work, downgrading mysql probably wouldn't. [11:15] woops [11:16] 21:15 It depends largely on how "clever" the packaging is. For example, downgrading mg would work, downgrading mysql probably wouldn't. [11:16] lighttpd 1.4.26 is the newest release available in Ubuntu. [11:16] There may be unsupported third-party packages [11:16] ahh ok, i have .22 installed [11:16] what sources should i be using to get to .26 [11:16] You shouldn't [11:17] im on karmic [11:17] Trying to install packages out-of-band is a good way to fuck up your system. [11:17] true, well at the moment my sites are down, so i figured digging the hole deeper couldn't hurt [11:18] I guess... [11:18] I'd try downgrading openssl or whatever first [11:19] Or, you know, working out WHY it isn't starting, and fixing that [11:19] yeh, ive been looking around on the net a bit [11:19] and its a bug with the new openssl and lighttpd below 26 i think [11:39] <\sh> VoiDeT: which new openssl in karmic? [11:39] <\sh> the latest openssl in karmic is 0.9.8g-16ubuntu3.2 (via security/updates) [11:40] <\sh> that shouldn't crash your lighty...or you did an upgrade of openssl 0.9.8 to 1.0.0 by yourself, then you are alone [11:56] hmmm \sh weird, Im not too sure what could of happened here [11:59] <\sh> VoiDeT: so you have openssl 1.0.0 on the machine? I don't know what you did, but you did something wrong ;) there is no 1.0.0 release in all ubuntu releases till today...and it's a problem to upgrade to 1.0.0 without rewriting some parts of code in several apps to maintain backward compatiblity with older ssl clients [11:59] <\sh> meeting brb [11:59] yeh i for sure didnt do that [12:01] i just upgraded to 10.04, issue fixed [12:02] however i see apache2 is running now, and i try apt-get remove apache2 and nothing found [12:11] That's probably because it's called apache2-mpm-worker or something [12:54] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] opennebula vm is in save_stop state how do i delete it?? [12:57] hardfire: please dont repeat yourself [12:58] but he needs help :) [12:59] <_ruben> he did succeed at one thing: getting some attention ;) [12:59] _ruben: yeah, but can you imagine if everyone did that? [12:59] :D [12:59] everyone doesn't already? [13:00] heh, I refuse to join #ubuntu cause that goes on constantly :( [13:01] <_ruben> #ubuntu is good for keeping your connection alive ;) [13:01] <_ruben> but no, i dont endorse repeating or any other form of spamming [13:17] morning === xfaf is now known as zul [13:22] ttx: did someone upload dovecot yet? [13:23] I saw it fixreleased [13:24] signed by mvo [13:24] k [13:27] Daviey: for the axis2c ftbfs, should we maverick-updates-it ? [13:27] That's the only remaining one on our plate, before ISO testing === oubiwann-away is now known as oubiwann [13:33] ttx: Well.. i think -updates makes sense [13:33] it's not like fixing the FTBFS actually gives us anything better for release.. [13:33] ... it's an -updates issue... IMHO... [13:33] (unless doko finds a fix sooner) [13:33] sorry, not working on this currently === ivoks-afk is now known as ivoks [13:40] doko: Oh.. ok.. no problem.. Thanks for letting us know. [13:53] hello all [13:56] is there any how to install and running xen-server on ubuntu-server 10.4 (Lucid) [13:58] No. [14:00] kshallid: you mean making Ubuntu a domU? or a dom0? [14:00] kshallid: it's possible, but I'd recommend against it - use kvm instead [14:00] dom0 [14:00] not recommended [14:00] !xen [14:00] XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen [14:00] Not supported. At all. [14:01] kshallid: that's extremely non-trivial [14:01] soren: are Ubuntu kernels domU-capable by default, like Debian ones? [14:01] twb: that what i saw on all forums, so just want to ask [14:01] kshallid: use kvm, that's simple, stable and supported [14:01] twb: Yes. [14:01] Good-o, that's what I thought [14:01] They have been for years. [14:02] paravirtualising ubuntu under xen is a pita, and running it hwvirtualized is a pita i/o-wise [14:02] RoyK: any referencies ? [14:02] kshallid: references for what? [14:03] kvm [14:03] !kvm [14:03] kvm is the preferred virtualization approach in Ubuntu. For more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM [14:03] RoyK: ok thx [14:08] JamesPage: did your Hudson autotester go through todays ISO yet ? [14:13] morning all [14:14] I'd be enthusiastic about kvm if I had a single bloody host that had VT extensions [14:16] I need a donut and cofee [14:16] before i can do anything productive [14:16] twb virtuallbox can be ran headless as well [14:16] vb needs gui i thought? [14:17] vbox can't be run headless unless you use the non-free version or are happy to have a host you can't connect to [14:17] smoser: did you see with skaet for cloud image release procedure ? [14:17] Whereas kvm can simply hook up the 80x25 VGA console and serial console to new PTYs, or to curses, or to stdio [14:17] twb afaik you can run headless, and use the guest to connect, remote desktop or ssh [14:18] plovs: wrong [14:18] The RDP server is only available in the non-Free version [14:18] i sent her a mail last night pointing to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEC/Images/Publishing and info on acl for AMI pages on amazon. opened a RT for her to have access to nectarine (which is finished) [14:18] ttx, ^ [14:18] So if your headless VM falls over and goes into a fsck in single-user mode, you have no way to get into it [14:19] twb but it should be possible to use rdp build into the windows guest, no? [14:19] but yes, kvm is "better" [14:19] that's assuming it works [14:19] when it breaks, you're screwed [14:19] why not just run like xvnc or something? [14:19] yep [14:19] plovs: if it was a windows guest running an RDP server, that would be just as inaccessible during a panic on the guest [14:20] twb yes, if it breaks, then your screwed [14:20] Yes, if nothing goes wrong, you are fine [14:20] But that's like putting a server in a remote rack without any kind of KVM-over-IP or LOM or what have you [14:20] twb, is there a way to get at serial console ? [14:20] you can still give yourself shell access for emergency [14:21] smoser: not according to the #vbox people [14:21] things go wrong [14:21] this is a given assumption when you work in the real world [14:21] yeah, then that really stinks. [14:21] franksterville: how? The guest has no networking, and you have no local head because vbox is too cheap and stupid to support serial [14:21] on a related note, for the cloud images, i'm thinking it would be good to have a panic mode ssh server [14:22] or some way to get at the instance if in fact mount / fails (but you did get to the ramdisk or other early part of boot) [14:22] oh u mean shell to the virtual.. gotcha [14:22] use vmware much more robust [14:22] Har fucking har [14:23] smoser: skaet is with me, having trouble unencrypting your email. Could you send it to me ? [14:23] KVM is the supported solution for a reason [14:23] The vmware hypervisor, maybe. The gratis stuff like vmware server is a fucking joke [14:23] hypervisor is great, the free server is awful [14:23] never messed with kvm [14:23] smoser: or send it in clear text if there isn't anything sensitive in it [14:24] ttx, sure. i tihnk i did encrypt with "Kate Stewart (Canonical PGP key)" C18CFBA0 . maybe error on my part. [14:24] ttx, there is sensitive [14:24] most anything free is aweful [14:24] the ami pages acl [14:24] franksterville only if the free version is meant to advertise paid versions [14:24] franksterville: this *is* #UBUNTU-server [14:25] smoser: ok, send it (encrypted) to me then [14:25] k [14:25] twb: and? [14:25] franksterville: Ubuntu is gratis [14:25] I happen to have one, I am allowed to learn here? [14:25] alot of the extended functionality comes at a price sometimes [14:26] franksterville: I mean, if free stuff is awful, why aren't you in #RHEL [14:26] nono I love free stuff [14:26] but sometimes free isnt worth it [14:26] ubuntu is tho [14:26] but i dont like VB [14:27] Mostly because they take Debian and break bits their core users don't care about, like NFS root... >duck< [14:27] franksterville usually free means more work, vmware hypervisor is simpler to get working, but kvm takes more time but can mostly do the same [14:28] guys im here mostly to learn, was just chiming in prematurely lol [14:28] smoser: hang on, she did unencrypt it [14:28] why would one need a virtual with linux? [14:28] smoser: so everything is fine [14:28] ok [14:28] my stupid encryption setup i dont have copying myself [14:28] so i was going to have to type it again (ie, i can't read my sent-mail folder) [14:29] smoser: hmm, in fact, she can't read it [14:29] smoser: so we are still a go ;) [14:29] ok. hold on. [14:29] franksterville, that's not important [14:29] someone needed it, so someone wrote it [14:29] and gave it to the community [14:30] if you take away all things that people allegedly don't "need", you don't leave much left [14:31] valid point... [14:32] i did consider running a windows virtual just as a print server [14:32] since then there has been alot of nix printer drivers added soz no need. nix can do it === xfaf is now known as zul [14:47] Morning all [14:49] franksterville: in my case, virtualization is useful to delegate a subset of my overall resources to an administrative zone. [14:50] twb: I figured you were avoiding having a bunch of boxes. I am learning alot here [14:50] e.g. the buildds get at most 50% of RAM and 25% of disk I/O; apache gets an IP address and 80% of the network I/O [14:51] Yeah, consolidation. [14:51] rather than carve up a ridiculas permission scheme [14:52] Anyone use imsniff? [14:52] franksterville: it's only ridiculous until, say, you find out that e.g. your financials postgres database has lost the last week of data because /var/log and /var/lib/postgres share a filesystem, and DOS attacks filled that filesystem via /var/log/auth.log [14:53] twb: oh ^**%* yes that would be bad [14:53] Or, say, you're hosting customers' services and want to charge them based on the bandwidth they consume [14:54] twb: i woek in a pretty small office environment, dozen clients soz I hink in that context [14:54] You don't want bank.example.net to get zero bandwidth because your other customer porn.example.net was uploading a new video. [14:54] lololol [14:55] franksterville we used to run our backup domaincontroller virtualized [14:55] It also makes backups and migrations easier [14:55] and two applicationservers [14:56] twb: I use amazon s3 for backups as well as a local raid [14:56] that is two less boxes less ports in the switch, less electricity etc [14:56] twb: sounds like u have a much larger situation than i do [14:57] the green aspect is huge [14:57] franksterville: well, my office network is actually a mess. We have more mission-critical hosts than staff, and our most powerful box is running PPPoE and nothing else [14:57] franksterville: but I also babysit a bunch of customers, including a couple of multinationals. [14:57] Anyone know any software for monitoring AIM for linux? My companies compliance needs something to monitor the devs [14:58] twb: mostly web services? [14:58] No, systems administration. [14:58] elb0w: AIM as in the AOL IM protocol? [14:58] twb: soz i get stuck i can hire you to fix it lol [14:58] twb, correct [14:59] elb0w: ask "apt-cache search". Probably libpurple (pidgin, finch, bitlbee) can speak it. [15:00] franksterville: or you could just ask here, if you're prepared to put up with me explaining how stupid you are when you do something dumb and need help fixing it [15:01] twb: well, that comes with doing something stupid. On occation it will be so stupid that I am willing to pay for privacy LOL [15:02] twb: It took me 2 years to talk my company to ditch windows and now that they finally listened its my head [15:03] franksterville you have replaced all your windows servers? [15:03] yes [15:03] file, print, web [15:04] wow, do you use centralized authentication? i quite liked AD [15:04] windows makes me ill [15:04] AP+exchange+outlook is hard to replace [15:04] spent more time locking people out of everything so they couldnt mess it up [15:04] plovs: I bet he doesn't [15:05] I use OPen Dir [15:05] Yeah, developers are nearly as bad as engineers when it comes to fucking up their unix workstations [15:05] lol [15:05] and developers are harder to lock down [15:05] i am talking receptionists and costomer service reps [15:06] "My pineal gland told me that upgrading GCC would make my fortran code marginally faster, so I tried to sudo make install..." [15:06] lolololol [15:06] !ot [15:06] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [15:07] franksterville is open dir an active directory replacement running on ubuntu? [15:08] Pici: sorry. [15:08] whatever ubuntus stock AD replacement is [15:09] franksterville: there isn't one. [15:09] there is a lugin [15:09] plugin [15:09] i rem setiing it up [15:09] OpenLDAP does some of it, and Samba4 does some, but it isn't production-ready [15:09] my google fu is good [15:09] yeyey LDAP [15:10] i used a tutorial top to bottom the first time and i try not to mess with anything [15:10] plovs: I guess he's referring to Sun OpenDS (java) or Apple Open Directory (OS X) === zz_sailerboy is now known as sailerboy [15:12] twb ok, but those are not cheaper then AD, and ldap on ubuntu is not something i want to risk my job over :-( [15:13] I run OpenLDAP on hardy, but I ran out of budget before I got SSL or Kerberos or NFSv4 working on top. [15:14] twb: since i am noob and really shouldnt sudo anything i try to just let the thing run. I only apt-get upgrade every 6 mo [15:14] * plovs hopes samba4 will solve this hurdle [15:14] my first streach i went 500 days without reboot [15:14] but then kernal needed reboot [15:15] just distro upgraded to 10.04 [15:15] cant beleive it still works lol [15:15] I believe d-r-u is recommended over dist-upgrade'ing [15:16] again google is my admin lol [15:16] !do-release-upgrade [15:16] Hm, maybe I forget it's name [15:16] There isn't a factoid for it. [15:16] !upgrade [15:16] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [15:17] Okey dokey [15:17] But yes, its the recommended way. There are some quirks that d-r-u can fix that can't be handled by dpkg/apt. [15:17] did these: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core, sudo do-release-upgrade [15:18] Thats fine :) [15:18] kept my ftp, dhcp, sambap, user configs [15:18] if possible, a clean install is best for servers imho, and just restore configs from backup later [15:19] i plan to do clean install in Dec [15:19] replace HDs etc [15:20] use the leaf blower [15:20] with todays internet speeds i was considering an instance on S3 [15:20] and forget local [15:42] ttx, so should we be starting iso testing ? [15:42] should i have tracker populated with 20101006 ? [15:43] smoser: I'd rather wait for the server ISO generation and trigger the cloud image generation after that [15:44] should arrive in a few [15:45] ttx, where there packages spun explicitly for ? [15:45] (how about that for yoda speak) [15:45] smoser: I don't think so [15:46] smoser: but ideally we would take the same publisher run :) [15:57] interesting, anyone using otrs as ticket system? i'd like to try the new 3.0b4 and funny enough it's available only in 2 different rpm falvours, for suse and redhat? anyway, using alien to convert shouldn't be a problem so can anyone recommend either flavour? i don't really think it matters but better ask.. ;) [16:01] ...oO(hmm supose i could just install a centos vm and be done with it...) [16:01] lol ye i always cronge when using alwin [16:01] alien [16:01] * [16:02] jeiworth better download the tar-ball and create a deb from it with checkinstall [16:07] plovs: that works with otrs? because it's not source code, it's well more like e.g. the joomla-tarball that you just extract into /var/www/ and take it from there... [16:07] New bug: #655772 in tomcat6 (main) "postinst script failed if tomcat6 user is present in the system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/655772 [16:08] otrs is just a bit of a pita because you have to manually install all required dependancies and set up the db with sql-scripts etc... [16:08] s/dependancies/dependencies [16:09] jeiworth you might mail the maintainer of otrs2 and ask if he is working on otrs3? it looks not taht simpe to make a deb [16:10] plovs: hmm, otrs3 is still in beta, i am not sure but one can always ask ;) thanks [16:29] I'm looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html and wondering what the best approach is to push an SSH key to the default user [16:29] smoser: you can spin the cloud images -- server ISOs are being regenerated as we speak [16:30] ahh! I see --ssh-key and --ssh-user-key now [16:30] nevermind === jj-afk is now known as jjohansen [16:43] ttx, so, i can spin, yes [16:43] but if there is no package difference from last nights' i'd just prefer to use last nights [16:43] as publish process is multi-hour [16:43] smoser: any way to compare current status ? [16:43] smoser: there were quite a few bugs squashed, some of them affecting us [16:43] i can hack somethign together. just go through manifest and check archive data. [16:44]