[07:37] <ara> good morning!
[08:29] <alourie> good morning everybody!
[08:32] <ara> morning alourie
[08:33] <alourie> hi ara
[08:33] <alourie> ara: I've read your report. It's great
[08:33] <ara> alourie, thanks :)
[08:34] <alourie> ara: I've been thinking about helping new people, and I think that the new website should play major role in that
[08:35] <ara> alourie, yes, I agree, I am collecting experiences, so I can work on that next cycle
[08:35] <ara> alourie, it would be great if you would help with that
[08:38] <alourie> ara: I'll gladly help with anything needed. I really think we should get QA to a new level
[09:22] <alourie> ara: so just let me know how I can help :-)
[10:56] <ara> morning davmor2ª
[15:24] <zul> is the iso ready?
[15:28] <zul> gah...
[15:30] <hggdh> is it?
[15:38] <charlie-tca> hmm, could be a long week of trying to test. Blew up the cd-rw, today I lost a motherboard... Another good week.
[15:39] <davmor2> charlie-tca: do you go out of your way to harm your machines?
[15:39] <charlie-tca> Not really harming them. Breaking them real good, instead.
[15:40] <davmor2> haha
[15:40] <charlie-tca> Maybe they are getting old? (That motherboard was a 866MHz PIII)
[15:41] <charlie-tca> I think I will have to buy some newer than 2001 hardware
[15:41] <hggdh> charlie-tca: there is, I agree, a non-zero chance they are sort of, er, ancient ;-)
[15:41] <charlie-tca> lol
[15:42]  * hggdh looks behind self, and also sees some rather old machines
[15:43]  * charlie-tca still has a PII tester working
[15:43] <hggdh> wow!
[15:44] <hggdh> I gave up on mine many years ago... my old machines are P4's
[15:44] <charlie-tca> old?
[15:45] <charlie-tca> My new machines are a P4 and an athlon 64 single-core
[15:48] <hggdh> uh, perhaps not-so-old, just ~7/8 years...
[15:52] <charlie-tca> huh? You mean my "new" P4 is more than a year old already?
[16:00] <marcavis> hello folks, how would I be able to limit the bandwidth usage for updating to Maverick RC?
[16:01] <marcavis> I've got trickle installed, but it looks like "trickle -d 45 do-release-upgrade -d" doesn't work as do-release-upgrade must be calling something else
[16:07] <mvo> marcavis: there is acquire::http::dl-limit "45"; that you can set in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[16:08] <mvo> marcavis: that applies to all things that uses apt as the downloader (like update-manager, synaptic, apt itself etc)
[16:08] <marcavis> hmm, there is no single apt.conf file, I'll check those in apt.conf.d/ then
[16:10] <marcavis> mvo: hmm, unless I just create that file?
[16:12] <mvo> marcavis: apt.conf.d will work just fine too
[16:13] <marcavis> mvo: okay, thanks! :)
[16:13] <mvo> yw
[16:28] <highvoltage> I'm having a bizarre issue with today's Edubuntu daily build under KVM. When I double click on "Install Edubuntu 10.10" for the first time it /sometimes/ opens the Trash folder (this happens on i386 and amd64), but after the first time it always opens Ubiquity fine
[16:28] <highvoltage> anyone seen this on other releases today?
[16:49] <ara> first images are starting to appear in the tracker
[16:58] <bladernr> ara:  yep... server images are up.  Game on
[16:59] <bladernr> highvoltage:  are you sure that's the right ISO?  they're just now starting to show up on the iso tracker, so the images may not be as fresh as you think.
[17:00] <bladernr> either way, I'd suggest holding off until the edubuntu images show up on the iso tracker then sync them to be sure
[17:09] <kamusin> :D
[17:11] <charlie-tca> I have been attempting to sync mine for 5 1/2 hours already. You want me wait now?
[17:23] <ara> hey guys! ubuntu desktop ready to rock!
[17:25] <kamusin> ara, wohooo!
[17:26] <ara> yes, let the fun begin
[17:28] <highvoltage> bladernr: oops, whatever the last daily build was, I meant :)
[17:28] <bladernr> highvoltage:  yeah, no worries.  Theres plenty of fun now and more coming soon
[17:28] <highvoltage> bladernr: but I guess it could be kvm related, because I had the same happen in a Lucid VM too this morning
[17:29] <bladernr> honestly, I don't use kvm because I never could get them to be stable.  VirtualBox works all the time for me while KVM was mostly fail
[17:31]  * ara syncs desktop i386
[17:31] <ara> (and hopes that cdimage is not overloaded)
[17:32] <highvoltage> bladernr: kvm works great, depending on how you use it and on what
[17:35]  * bladernr really really wishes the dl-ubuntu-test-iso script worked for him :(
[17:39] <skaet> ubuntu alternate has been put up now too...
[17:43] <skaet> ara, bladenr, highvoltage,   looks like the images put down so far, are going to need to be refreshed.
[17:43] <bladernr> skaet:  groan....
[17:43] <bladernr> :-)
[17:44] <skaet> new images should be available in about 1/2 hour..
[17:44]  * bladernr starts: while true; do syncisos.sh; done
[17:44] <bladernr> heh
[17:44] <bladernr> skaet:  ack
[17:44] <skaet> sorry... :(
[17:45] <bladernr> heh.. no worries.  I was wondering if you're enjoying the madness that is release time :-D
[17:45] <charlie-tca> A helpful reminder: QA meeting in 15 minutes in #ubuntu-quality
[17:46]  * bladernr thinks this is the most fun... heh... I can almost hear the dramatic theme music playing in the background... oh, wait... that's my ipod ;-)
[17:46] <highvoltage> skaet: ok
[17:46] <bladernr> skaet:  the no worries was for you, btw...
[17:46] <charlie-tca> Oh, goody. I thought this was going to be an easy day :-)
[17:46] <highvoltage> despite it being a short cycle it felt quite long, can't wait for maverick to finally be out there :)
[17:54] <bladernr> skaet:  does the respin apply to the server ISOs as well? I've already done two test cases for server
[17:55] <skaet> we need to rebuild the images to get them labeled correctly,  no functional changes expected.
[17:55] <skaet> bladenr: ^^
[17:56] <bladernr> skaet:  roger that :)
[17:56] <skaet> bladernr, cjwatson has the new images built for server, and they'll be up soon.
[17:57] <skaet> bladenr,  they're up now.
[17:57] <bladernr> skaet:  cool. Thanks!
[18:08] <bladernr> anyone remember an issue with encrypted LVM where the text line "Unlocking the disk /dev/disk/by-uuid/FOO" would be repeated for every character typed as you entered the passphrase to decrypt the LVM?
[18:10] <ara> bladernr, yes, let me find it for you
[18:10] <bladernr> cool... I thought I had a duplicate of that one but can't find it now
[18:10] <ara> bladernr, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/566818
[18:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 566818 in plymouth (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "[Lucid] cryptsetup passphrase prompt during boot: every character typed repeats the prompt (affects: 12) (dups: 3) (heat: 80)" [Medium,Confirmed]
[18:11] <bladernr> ara:  thanks! you're awesome
[18:12] <ara> bladernr, the awesomeness comes from firefox's awesome bar :)
[18:13] <bladernr> ara:  that's only a factor in the awesomeness equation ;-) a fair bit of that is natural talent
[18:16] <fader_> Awesomebar is the one thing I miss when I use chrome :/
[19:13]  * charlie-tca grabs the ubuntu alternate images
[20:26] <bladernr> pedro_:  are you doing the 32bit OEM install?
[20:39] <pedro_> bladernr, yes doing it now
[20:40] <bladernr> pedro_:  let me know how that works for you :-) it fails on my 64bit attempt due to a bug fader found with RC
[20:40] <bladernr> I'm just curious if that's only on 64bit or if it's across the board
[20:40] <pedro_> bladernr, what's failing ?
[20:40] <fader_> bladernr: Eh?  What are you testing and which bug?
[20:40] <bladernr> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/650703
[20:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 650703 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "OEM config appears to work but user setup is not run after reboot (affects: 2) (heat: 500)" [Undecided,New]
[20:40]  * fader_ is syncing images and will start testing soon.
[20:40] <pedro_> ah ok let me try that since it just finished to install
[20:41] <fader_> I was having some weird issues that nobody else could reproduce, and I thought that was one of them
[20:41] <fader_> Maybe not though
[20:41] <bladernr> it just hit me, so ... you are not alone... or at the very least, you and I fail the same way :-)
[20:44] <fader_> It must be the kilts.
[20:44] <charlie-tca> quadrapassel still fails silently in VBox
[20:55] <pedro_> bladernr, fader_ works fine on the 32bit image
[20:58] <charlie-tca> anyone see a blurry logo on the ubuntu images?
[20:58] <fader_> charlie-tca: At which point?
[20:58] <charlie-tca> starting the installation
[20:58] <charlie-tca> the  splash screen
[20:59] <fader_> Ah, I don't get the nice graphics in vbox
[20:59] <fader_> :/
[20:59]  * charlie-tca needs to know if it is the image or the eyes
[20:59] <charlie-tca> heh, I don't seem to get nice graphics on hardware!
[21:00] <fader_> Hehe
[21:24] <jibel> bladernr, can you comment the lines "loopback loop0 /ubuntu/disks/root.disk" in grub.cfg and try to boot.
[21:25] <jibel> re your comment in the wubi bug ^^
[21:25] <bladernr> jibel:  maybe later... I'll have to recreate again. I've already wiped it so I can do wubi cases from iso.qa
[21:26] <jibel> bladernr, okay, no problem.
[21:27] <bladernr> I saved the grub.cfg file to look at for some reason (not sure why) but after I get the current wubi cases out of the way tonight or tomorrow I'll circle back to that one
[21:43] <jibel> bladernr, Are you able to run wubi.exe from a usb key ? I get the error: Internal error: Cannot copy ù''.exe
[21:54] <bladernr> yeah, I'm just finishing up an install now that was run from usb key
[21:54] <bladernr> 64bit Ubuntu
[21:57] <jibel> Anyone with Windows 7 ?
[21:59] <bladernr> yeah...
[21:59] <bladernr> me
[22:00] <jibel> and you can run wubi ?
[22:04] <bladernr> yep... just did it
[22:04] <bladernr> Win7 64bit ran wubi from the Ubuntu Desktop 64bit ISO put on usb key via usb-creator
[22:06] <jibel> hmm, wubi sucks.
[22:06] <jibel> I'll try on another system.
[22:07] <bladernr> hahaha... it does indeed :-D
[22:07] <bladernr> FWIW, Ive never gotten wubi to work on my netbook (but that's w/ 32bit WinXP)
[22:08] <jibel> the previous version was working on the same hardware.
[22:11] <bladernr> bad usb key or ISO transfer?
[22:13] <jibel> 2 different keys and md5 is correct. This looks like a problem with uninstalling the previous installation.
[22:24] <jibel> haha, restart windows and wubi is happy again.  Windows sucks :D
[22:29] <ara> hey! how's everything going?
[22:31] <bladernr> ara:  it'
[22:31] <bladernr> it's all broken!
[22:31] <bladernr> RESPIN RESPIN RESPIN!!!!
[22:31] <bladernr> ;-P
[22:33] <ara> classic :P
[22:34] <ara> I had an I/O error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/655999
[22:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 655999 in ubuntu "Error input/output when installing in a KVM (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[22:34] <ara> probably a HW issue, but I prefer to report it and have cjwatson, or ev to have a look
[22:35] <bladernr> yeah... I've had no problems with virtualbox... I gave up on KVM because I had too many errors that weren't reproducible in VBox
[22:35] <bladernr> everything mostly is working... I'm failing the OEM cases because oem-config is still broken.
[22:36] <bladernr> jibel is having wubi troubles (or windows troubles) but I'm not (wubi working fine so far)
[22:37] <jibel> ara, that's the same hw which takes 6 hours to upgrade ?
[22:37] <ara> jibel, no, different one
[22:39] <ara> OK, anyway, I am going to bed, I will keep on testing tomorrow morning
[22:40] <ara> have a nice evening all
[22:40] <ara> good nigh
[22:40] <jibel> good night ara
[22:40] <bladernr> just opened a security bug... ;-)
[22:40] <bladernr> sigh... and it'll probably get shot down
[22:42] <bladernr> wheeee! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/656004
[22:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 656004 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity allows for rediculously easy passwords (tried in Kubuntu installer) (affects: 1) (heat: 258)" [Undecided,New]
[22:48] <charlie-tca> Fun!
[22:48] <bladernr> charlie-tca:  yeah...
[22:48] <bladernr> my new password is 'a'
[22:48] <bladernr> shhh... don't tell anyone.
[22:48] <charlie-tca> Wow! Easier to remember that way
[22:51] <fader_> bladernr: Hey, were you seeing the oem-config-prepare error on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[22:51] <bladernr> However, the default policy AFTER installing is still at least somewhat strict.  I tried in shell and gui and was forced to use a minimum of 6 chars
[22:51] <bladernr> fader_:  both
[22:52] <fader_> bladernr: Okay, re-confirmed on kubuntu :(
[22:52] <bladernr> hey fader... ^^^ I found out how I'm going to force a respin this time
[22:52] <bladernr> ;-)
[22:52] <fader_> bladernr: Heh, haven't you done enough of that? :P
[22:53] <bladernr> well, yeah...
[22:54] <fader_> I'm going to try it on 32-bit, pedro_ to the contrary ;)
[23:12] <fader_> Hmm, same thing in 32-bit for me :/
[23:12] <fader_> kubuntu
[23:18] <bladernr> fader_:  oem?
[23:18] <fader_> bladernr: Yep :/
[23:22] <jibel> wubi i386 finally passed. Enough for today, good night all!
[23:25] <bladernr> jibel:  congrats!
[23:25] <bladernr> cheers
[23:26] <charlie-tca> jibel: thanks
[23:32] <bladernr> wow... so d-i allows me to set a single character passphrase for encrypted lvm as well...
[23:32] <bladernr> :(
[23:33] <charlie-tca> heh, my kind of password to remember
[23:34] <fader_> Well, nobody would guess it right off ;)
[23:35] <fader_> "Hmm, pet's name?  No.  Significant Other's Birthday?  No.  Middle name?  No."
[23:35] <fader_> It has that Spaceballs appeal that way.
[23:35] <bladernr> true...  the combination is 1
[23:35] <bladernr> 2
[23:35] <bladernr> 3
[23:35] <bladernr> 4
[23:35] <charlie-tca> That's what I'm thinking too. Does it fail if the first letter entered is right but they type 2 letters?
[23:35] <bladernr> 5
[23:35] <mdeslaur> "Favorite programming language? AHA!"
[23:42] <charlie-tca> So, that OEM bug is limited to Desktop images?
[23:42] <charlie-tca> my alternate 64 OEM worked
[23:43] <fader_> I was using alternates
[23:44] <fader_> charlie-tca: Were you testing on real hardware or VMs?
[23:44] <charlie-tca> VBox
[23:44] <charlie-tca> I have a hardware 386 running now
[23:45] <fader_> Bah... I've angered the Technology Gods or something
[23:45]  * fader_ kicks his computer.
[23:45] <fader_> Ow, that hurt :(
[23:45] <charlie-tca> Hm, maybe the changed motherboard made mine behave?
[23:47] <charlie-tca> I can not do the ltsp tests
[23:48] <fader_> charlie-tca: Out of curiosity, is your host system on maverick?
[23:48] <charlie-tca> yes
[23:48] <fader_> There goes that theory then :)
[23:49] <charlie-tca> Host = Xubuntu maverick 64bit; test = Ubuntu Alternate 64 in VBox
[23:50] <fader_> So weird... no idea why it's hitting bladernr and me but not you
[23:53] <charlie-tca> I'm good?
[23:53] <charlie-tca> Maybe it is the kilts?
[23:54] <fader_> Heheh a little from column A, a little from column B...
[23:54] <fader_> bladernr: d-i on xubuntu prompts me for weak passwords on encrypted LVM
[23:55]  * charlie-tca makes note to self; borrow a skirt for UDS - no, that should be "kilt"
[23:57] <charlie-tca> fader_: my 386 hardware oem is rebooting the first time
[23:57] <fader_> charlie-tca: I don't know whether to root for it working or against it :P
[23:58] <charlie-tca> heh :-)
[23:58] <charlie-tca> If 64bit worked, this one should ;-)