[07:37] good morning! [08:29] good morning everybody! [08:32] morning alourie [08:33] hi ara [08:33] ara: I've read your report. It's great [08:33] alourie, thanks :) [08:34] ara: I've been thinking about helping new people, and I think that the new website should play major role in that [08:35] alourie, yes, I agree, I am collecting experiences, so I can work on that next cycle [08:35] alourie, it would be great if you would help with that [08:38] ara: I'll gladly help with anything needed. I really think we should get QA to a new level [09:22] ara: so just let me know how I can help :-) [10:56] morning davmor2ª === xfaf is now known as zul === claudinux is now known as Claudinux === xfaf is now known as zul [15:24] is the iso ready? [15:28] gah... [15:30] is it? [15:38] hmm, could be a long week of trying to test. Blew up the cd-rw, today I lost a motherboard... Another good week. [15:39] charlie-tca: do you go out of your way to harm your machines? [15:39] Not really harming them. Breaking them real good, instead. [15:40] haha [15:40] Maybe they are getting old? (That motherboard was a 866MHz PIII) [15:41] I think I will have to buy some newer than 2001 hardware [15:41] charlie-tca: there is, I agree, a non-zero chance they are sort of, er, ancient ;-) [15:41] lol [15:42] * hggdh looks behind self, and also sees some rather old machines [15:43] * charlie-tca still has a PII tester working [15:43] wow! [15:44] I gave up on mine many years ago... my old machines are P4's [15:44] old? [15:45] My new machines are a P4 and an athlon 64 single-core [15:48] uh, perhaps not-so-old, just ~7/8 years... [15:52] huh? You mean my "new" P4 is more than a year old already? [16:00] hello folks, how would I be able to limit the bandwidth usage for updating to Maverick RC? [16:01] I've got trickle installed, but it looks like "trickle -d 45 do-release-upgrade -d" doesn't work as do-release-upgrade must be calling something else [16:07] marcavis: there is acquire::http::dl-limit "45"; that you can set in /etc/apt/apt.conf [16:08] marcavis: that applies to all things that uses apt as the downloader (like update-manager, synaptic, apt itself etc) [16:08] hmm, there is no single apt.conf file, I'll check those in apt.conf.d/ then [16:10] mvo: hmm, unless I just create that file? [16:12] marcavis: apt.conf.d will work just fine too [16:13] mvo: okay, thanks! :) [16:13] yw [16:28] I'm having a bizarre issue with today's Edubuntu daily build under KVM. When I double click on "Install Edubuntu 10.10" for the first time it /sometimes/ opens the Trash folder (this happens on i386 and amd64), but after the first time it always opens Ubiquity fine [16:28] anyone seen this on other releases today? [16:49] first images are starting to appear in the tracker [16:58] ara: yep... server images are up. Game on [16:59] highvoltage: are you sure that's the right ISO? they're just now starting to show up on the iso tracker, so the images may not be as fresh as you think. [17:00] either way, I'd suggest holding off until the edubuntu images show up on the iso tracker then sync them to be sure [17:09] :D [17:11] I have been attempting to sync mine for 5 1/2 hours already. You want me wait now? [17:23] hey guys! ubuntu desktop ready to rock! [17:25] ara, wohooo! [17:26] yes, let the fun begin [17:28] bladernr: oops, whatever the last daily build was, I meant :) [17:28] highvoltage: yeah, no worries. Theres plenty of fun now and more coming soon [17:28] bladernr: but I guess it could be kvm related, because I had the same happen in a Lucid VM too this morning [17:29] honestly, I don't use kvm because I never could get them to be stable. VirtualBox works all the time for me while KVM was mostly fail [17:31] * ara syncs desktop i386 [17:31] (and hopes that cdimage is not overloaded) [17:32] bladernr: kvm works great, depending on how you use it and on what [17:35] * bladernr really really wishes the dl-ubuntu-test-iso script worked for him :( [17:39] ubuntu alternate has been put up now too... [17:43] ara, bladenr, highvoltage, looks like the images put down so far, are going to need to be refreshed. [17:43] skaet: groan.... [17:43] :-) [17:44] new images should be available in about 1/2 hour.. [17:44] * bladernr starts: while true; do syncisos.sh; done [17:44] heh [17:44] skaet: ack [17:44] sorry... :( [17:45] heh.. no worries. I was wondering if you're enjoying the madness that is release time :-D [17:45] A helpful reminder: QA meeting in 15 minutes in #ubuntu-quality [17:46] * bladernr thinks this is the most fun... heh... I can almost hear the dramatic theme music playing in the background... oh, wait... that's my ipod ;-) [17:46] skaet: ok [17:46] skaet: the no worries was for you, btw... [17:46] Oh, goody. I thought this was going to be an easy day :-) [17:46] despite it being a short cycle it felt quite long, can't wait for maverick to finally be out there :) [17:54] skaet: does the respin apply to the server ISOs as well? I've already done two test cases for server [17:55] we need to rebuild the images to get them labeled correctly, no functional changes expected. [17:55] bladenr: ^^ [17:56] skaet: roger that :) [17:56] bladernr, cjwatson has the new images built for server, and they'll be up soon. [17:57] bladenr, they're up now. [17:57] skaet: cool. Thanks! [18:08] anyone remember an issue with encrypted LVM where the text line "Unlocking the disk /dev/disk/by-uuid/FOO" would be repeated for every character typed as you entered the passphrase to decrypt the LVM? [18:10] bladernr, yes, let me find it for you [18:10] cool... I thought I had a duplicate of that one but can't find it now [18:10] bladernr, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/566818 [18:10] Launchpad bug 566818 in plymouth (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "[Lucid] cryptsetup passphrase prompt during boot: every character typed repeats the prompt (affects: 12) (dups: 3) (heat: 80)" [Medium,Confirmed] [18:11] ara: thanks! you're awesome [18:12] bladernr, the awesomeness comes from firefox's awesome bar :) [18:13] ara: that's only a factor in the awesomeness equation ;-) a fair bit of that is natural talent [18:16] Awesomebar is the one thing I miss when I use chrome :/ === claudinux is now known as Claudinux [19:13] * charlie-tca grabs the ubuntu alternate images [20:26] pedro_: are you doing the 32bit OEM install? [20:39] bladernr, yes doing it now [20:40] pedro_: let me know how that works for you :-) it fails on my 64bit attempt due to a bug fader found with RC [20:40] I'm just curious if that's only on 64bit or if it's across the board [20:40] bladernr, what's failing ? [20:40] bladernr: Eh? What are you testing and which bug? [20:40] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/650703 [20:40] Launchpad bug 650703 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "OEM config appears to work but user setup is not run after reboot (affects: 2) (heat: 500)" [Undecided,New] [20:40] * fader_ is syncing images and will start testing soon. [20:40] ah ok let me try that since it just finished to install [20:41] I was having some weird issues that nobody else could reproduce, and I thought that was one of them [20:41] Maybe not though [20:41] it just hit me, so ... you are not alone... or at the very least, you and I fail the same way :-) [20:44] It must be the kilts. [20:44] quadrapassel still fails silently in VBox [20:55] bladernr, fader_ works fine on the 32bit image [20:58] anyone see a blurry logo on the ubuntu images? [20:58] charlie-tca: At which point? [20:58] starting the installation [20:58] the splash screen [20:59] Ah, I don't get the nice graphics in vbox [20:59] :/ [20:59] * charlie-tca needs to know if it is the image or the eyes [20:59] heh, I don't seem to get nice graphics on hardware! [21:00] Hehe [21:24] bladernr, can you comment the lines "loopback loop0 /ubuntu/disks/root.disk" in grub.cfg and try to boot. [21:25] re your comment in the wubi bug ^^ [21:25] jibel: maybe later... I'll have to recreate again. I've already wiped it so I can do wubi cases from iso.qa [21:26] bladernr, okay, no problem. [21:27] I saved the grub.cfg file to look at for some reason (not sure why) but after I get the current wubi cases out of the way tonight or tomorrow I'll circle back to that one [21:43] bladernr, Are you able to run wubi.exe from a usb key ? I get the error: Internal error: Cannot copy ù''.exe [21:54] yeah, I'm just finishing up an install now that was run from usb key [21:54] 64bit Ubuntu [21:57] Anyone with Windows 7 ? [21:59] yeah... [21:59] me [22:00] and you can run wubi ? [22:04] yep... just did it [22:04] Win7 64bit ran wubi from the Ubuntu Desktop 64bit ISO put on usb key via usb-creator [22:06] hmm, wubi sucks. [22:06] I'll try on another system. [22:07] hahaha... it does indeed :-D [22:07] FWIW, Ive never gotten wubi to work on my netbook (but that's w/ 32bit WinXP) [22:08] the previous version was working on the same hardware. [22:11] bad usb key or ISO transfer? [22:13] 2 different keys and md5 is correct. This looks like a problem with uninstalling the previous installation. [22:24] haha, restart windows and wubi is happy again. Windows sucks :D [22:29] hey! how's everything going? [22:31] ara: it' [22:31] it's all broken! [22:31] RESPIN RESPIN RESPIN!!!! [22:31] ;-P [22:33] classic :P [22:34] I had an I/O error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/655999 [22:34] Launchpad bug 655999 in ubuntu "Error input/output when installing in a KVM (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [22:34] probably a HW issue, but I prefer to report it and have cjwatson, or ev to have a look [22:35] yeah... I've had no problems with virtualbox... I gave up on KVM because I had too many errors that weren't reproducible in VBox [22:35] everything mostly is working... I'm failing the OEM cases because oem-config is still broken. [22:36] jibel is having wubi troubles (or windows troubles) but I'm not (wubi working fine so far) [22:37] ara, that's the same hw which takes 6 hours to upgrade ? [22:37] jibel, no, different one [22:39] OK, anyway, I am going to bed, I will keep on testing tomorrow morning [22:40] have a nice evening all [22:40] good nigh [22:40] good night ara [22:40] just opened a security bug... ;-) [22:40] sigh... and it'll probably get shot down [22:42] wheeee! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/656004 [22:42] Launchpad bug 656004 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity allows for rediculously easy passwords (tried in Kubuntu installer) (affects: 1) (heat: 258)" [Undecided,New] [22:48] Fun! [22:48] charlie-tca: yeah... [22:48] my new password is 'a' [22:48] shhh... don't tell anyone. [22:48] Wow! Easier to remember that way [22:51] bladernr: Hey, were you seeing the oem-config-prepare error on ubuntu or kubuntu? [22:51] However, the default policy AFTER installing is still at least somewhat strict. I tried in shell and gui and was forced to use a minimum of 6 chars [22:51] fader_: both [22:52] bladernr: Okay, re-confirmed on kubuntu :( [22:52] hey fader... ^^^ I found out how I'm going to force a respin this time [22:52] ;-) [22:52] bladernr: Heh, haven't you done enough of that? :P [22:53] well, yeah... [22:54] I'm going to try it on 32-bit, pedro_ to the contrary ;) [23:12] Hmm, same thing in 32-bit for me :/ [23:12] kubuntu [23:18] fader_: oem? [23:18] bladernr: Yep :/ [23:22] wubi i386 finally passed. Enough for today, good night all! [23:25] jibel: congrats! [23:25] cheers [23:26] jibel: thanks [23:32] wow... so d-i allows me to set a single character passphrase for encrypted lvm as well... [23:32] :( [23:33] heh, my kind of password to remember [23:34] Well, nobody would guess it right off ;) [23:35] "Hmm, pet's name? No. Significant Other's Birthday? No. Middle name? No." [23:35] It has that Spaceballs appeal that way. [23:35] true... the combination is 1 [23:35] 2 [23:35] 3 [23:35] 4 [23:35] That's what I'm thinking too. Does it fail if the first letter entered is right but they type 2 letters? [23:35] 5 [23:35] "Favorite programming language? AHA!" [23:42] So, that OEM bug is limited to Desktop images? [23:42] my alternate 64 OEM worked [23:43] I was using alternates [23:44] charlie-tca: Were you testing on real hardware or VMs? [23:44] VBox [23:44] I have a hardware 386 running now [23:45] Bah... I've angered the Technology Gods or something [23:45] * fader_ kicks his computer. [23:45] Ow, that hurt :( [23:45] Hm, maybe the changed motherboard made mine behave? [23:47] I can not do the ltsp tests [23:48] charlie-tca: Out of curiosity, is your host system on maverick? [23:48] yes [23:48] There goes that theory then :) [23:49] Host = Xubuntu maverick 64bit; test = Ubuntu Alternate 64 in VBox [23:50] So weird... no idea why it's hitting bladernr and me but not you [23:53] I'm good? [23:53] Maybe it is the kilts? [23:54] Heheh a little from column A, a little from column B... [23:54] bladernr: d-i on xubuntu prompts me for weak passwords on encrypted LVM [23:55] * charlie-tca makes note to self; borrow a skirt for UDS - no, that should be "kilt" [23:57] fader_: my 386 hardware oem is rebooting the first time [23:57] charlie-tca: I don't know whether to root for it working or against it :P [23:58] heh :-) [23:58] If 64bit worked, this one should ;-)