| Splashman | hi all | 00:38 |
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| === FireCrotch_ is now known as FireCrotch | ||
| [Damaskinos] | salve ubuntu studio non รจ anche in versione live per provarla? | 15:20 |
| dludldin | hello everybody! | 18:54 |
| holstein | dludldin: hello :) | 18:55 |
| dludldin | right know tuxguitar is working fine with me but i had problems to get it ok | 18:56 |
| holstein | do share | 18:57 |
| dludldin | at this moment im making an update perhaps this could solve the problem but anyway if don't i guess that tuxguitar 1.1 and 1.2 have problems with java synth | 19:00 |
| holstein | OH | 19:01 |
| holstein | i remember tuxguitar now | 19:01 |
| holstein | i dont need tablature | 19:01 |
| holstein | SO i just kinda opened it up | 19:01 |
| dludldin | when java synth is enabled tuxguitar takes its time to run apox 1minute maybe less | 19:01 |
| holstein | maybe in karmic? | 19:01 |
| holstein | is that for monitoring? | 19:01 |
| holstein | i would probably just route tuxguitar to whatever synth i want to use | 19:02 |
| holstein | in JACK | 19:02 |
| holstein | assuming it has proper JACK support | 19:02 |
| holstein | i did not try that | 19:02 |
| dludldin | jack is another one that gave me issues too | 19:02 |
| holstein | how so? | 19:03 |
| holstein | that is kinda the 'heart' of the linux audio system | 19:03 |
| dludldin | for what i can remember first time i installed jack was in a fluydsynt plugin to tuxguitar that consequently had to install jack | 19:04 |
| holstein | sounds right | 19:04 |
| dludldin | dont know if jack works i havent tested yet | 19:05 |
| holstein | again, thats really the center of it all | 19:06 |
| holstein | learning JACK | 19:06 |
| holstein | and getting it running properly is key | 19:06 |
| dludldin | after solving jack's non starting problem i havent tested at least it runs know | 19:07 |
| holstein | you dont have to, but its SO handy | 19:07 |
| holstein | and like your situation | 19:07 |
| holstein | when you need to route a synth from something like tuxguitar | 19:07 |
| holstein | you just make the connection in JACK | 19:07 |
| dludldin | is it 0.4% at jack o.k.? | 19:09 |
| holstein | well, what are your settings? | 19:09 |
| holstein | did you start from 'jack control'? | 19:09 |
| dludldin | yes | 19:10 |
| holstein | so, click on setup | 19:11 |
| holstein | the 'settings' tab | 19:12 |
| holstein | you using the alsa driver with an internal sound card? | 19:12 |
| dludldin | yap | 19:12 |
| holstein | OK | 19:12 |
| holstein | in the lower right | 19:12 |
| holstein | what is the latency? | 19:12 |
| holstein | in msec ? | 19:13 |
| dludldin | 46.4 | 19:13 |
| dludldin | 46.4 msec | 19:13 |
| holstein | OK | 19:13 |
| holstein | thats decent for an internal card | 19:13 |
| holstein | you see in the middle there? | 19:14 |
| holstein | sample rate? | 19:14 |
| holstein | i set that, and suggest that be set to 41000 | 19:14 |
| holstein | above and below that | 19:14 |
| holstein | frames/period | 19:14 |
| dludldin | 44100 | 19:14 |
| holstein | and period/buffers | 19:14 |
| holstein | those are the 2 settings we 'tweak' | 19:14 |
| holstein | to effect the latency | 19:14 |
| holstein | you might not need the latency to be lower | 19:15 |
| holstein | IF | 19:15 |
| dludldin | 1024 2 | 19:15 |
| holstein | when you run programs | 19:15 |
| holstein | you get xruns | 19:15 |
| holstein | you can come here and change those settings | 19:15 |
| holstein | raise them | 19:15 |
| holstein | maybe to | 19:15 |
| holstein | 1024 3 | 19:15 |
| holstein | that kind of tweak will increase your latency | 19:15 |
| holstein | potentially fixing that xrun issue | 19:16 |
| holstein | IF you have the issue | 19:16 |
| holstein | the only reason to need super low latency | 19:16 |
| holstein | is if you are doing live effects processing | 19:16 |
| holstein | SAY, you got your guitar plugged in to your sound card | 19:16 |
| holstein | you route that in JACK to rakarrack | 19:16 |
| holstein | and out to your sound card | 19:17 |
| holstein | you play your guitar | 19:17 |
| holstein | and 46ms later | 19:17 |
| holstein | you hear the effected signal | 19:17 |
| holstein | thats not too good | 19:17 |
| holstein | OR | 19:17 |
| dludldin | i have to test it if it sounds good | 19:17 |
| holstein | if you have a midi synth plugged in | 19:17 |
| holstein | you'll play a note | 19:17 |
| holstein | and 46ms later | 19:18 |
| holstein | you hear the sound you have selected | 19:18 |
| holstein | again, probably unwanted | 19:18 |
| holstein | IF you dont have these 'realtime' requirements | 19:18 |
| holstein | then, dont sweat it | 19:18 |
| dludldin | do you know if these three messages are bad sh: artsshell: not found ,JACK: unable to mlock() port buffers: Cannot allocate memory,cannot lock down memory for RT thread | 19:19 |
| holstein | yeah | 19:20 |
| holstein | JACK is not running then | 19:20 |
| holstein | is this lucid? | 19:20 |
| holstein | 10.04? | 19:20 |
| dludldin | yes | 19:20 |
| holstein | in 'setup' | 19:20 |
| holstein | see the checkbox for realtime? | 19:21 |
| dludldin | yap | 19:21 |
| holstein | uncheck that if its checked | 19:21 |
| holstein | then say 'ok' | 19:21 |
| holstein | and close jack control | 19:21 |
| holstein | open a terminal | 19:21 |
| holstein | and type | 19:21 |
| holstein | sudo adduser dludldin audio | 19:21 |
| holstein | ^^ assuming dludldin is the username on your box | 19:22 |
| holstein | i would type | 19:22 |
| holstein | sudo adduser holstein audio | 19:22 |
| dludldin | right know only get a possible bad message sh: artsshell: not found | 19:25 |
| holstein | AH | 19:27 |
| holstein | progress | 19:27 |
| holstein | close jackcontrol | 19:27 |
| holstein | open a terminal | 19:27 |
| holstein | and typr | 19:27 |
| holstein | type* | 19:27 |
| holstein | sudo qjackctl | 19:27 |
| holstein | and see if JACK starts | 19:28 |
| holstein | then we'll talk about trouble shooting further | 19:28 |
| dludldin | in terminal i get suspending pulse audio and in jack messages 19:28:45.722 Patchbay deactivated. | 19:30 |
| dludldin | 19:28:45.832 Statistics reset. | 19:30 |
| dludldin | 19:28:45.871 ALSA connection graph change. | 19:30 |
| dludldin | 19:28:46.125 ALSA connection change. | 19:30 |
| holstein | OK | 19:30 |
| holstein | is JACK running though? | 19:30 |
| dludldin | no | 19:30 |
| holstein | says 'stopped' | 19:30 |
| holstein | in the main window? | 19:30 |
| dludldin | yes | 19:31 |
| holstein | hmmm | 19:31 |
| holstein | internal card makes sound otherwise? | 19:31 |
| dludldin | give me three or four minutes holstein | 19:31 |
| holstein | sure | 19:31 |
| dludldin | hi again | 19:37 |
| holstein | :) | 19:38 |
| dludldin | well i can hear mp3 when jack is not running | 19:38 |
| holstein | OK | 19:39 |
| holstein | thats good | 19:39 |
| holstein | open in terminal | 19:39 |
| holstein | sudo qjackctl | 19:40 |
| holstein | and lets look at your settings again | 19:40 |
| holstein | in 'setup' | 19:40 |
| holstein | on the right column | 19:40 |
| holstein | what is under 'interface' ? | 19:40 |
| holstein | default? | 19:40 |
| dludldin | yes | 19:42 |
| holstein | hmmm | 19:42 |
| holstein | try hitting start again | 19:42 |
| holstein | as root | 19:42 |
| holstein | and see what it says | 19:42 |
| dludldin | as root says starting then goes black and white and im not able to close it | 19:46 |
| dludldin | i had jack running ok in ubuntu 8.04 | 19:46 |
| holstein | well, this is what needs to be sorted out | 19:46 |
| holstein | and i got a meeting here in a minute | 19:46 |
| holstein | let me give you some suggestions | 19:47 |
| holstein | of course #jack | 19:47 |
| holstein | and #opensourcemusicians | 19:47 |
| holstein | and the ubuntustudio mailing list | 19:47 |
| dludldin | ok im gratefull for your time | 19:47 |
| holstein | im in here alot though | 19:47 |
| holstein | and i'll try again later with you if you dont get it sorted :) | 19:47 |
| dludldin | ok see you later then, thanks | 19:48 |
| dludldin | anyone make music? | 21:03 |
| holstein | hello again dludldin :) | 21:13 |
| holstein | heres a little 30 second thing i did not too long ago | 21:13 |
| holstein | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/groove.ogg | 21:14 |
| holstein | and heres a friends music all made with ubuntu | 21:14 |
| holstein | http://wootangent.net/music/ | 21:14 |
| aputamkon | hello | 22:12 |
| plotino | hi everybody | 22:12 |
| plotino | im trying to connect my MIDI keyboard to PC | 22:12 |
| aputamkon | any 1 know what system is best to dual boot with ubuntu? emachines dell hp? | 22:12 |
| plotino | this keyb is an old portatone | 22:13 |
| plotino | it has synthesizer capability | 22:13 |
| plotino | im trying to get it play from hydrogen + jack | 22:13 |
| plotino | anybody knows hoe to do that? | 22:13 |
| aputamkon | no idead my self sorry | 22:15 |
| dludldin | hi | 23:14 |
| dludldin | holstein : are you there | 23:15 |
| holstein | dludldin: hey | 23:15 |
| holstein | did you see my posts earlier? | 23:16 |
| holstein | 16:14 < holstein> heres a little 30 second thing i did not too long ago | 23:16 |
| holstein | 16:14 < holstein> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/groove.ogg | 23:16 |
| holstein | 16:14 < holstein> and heres a friends music all made with ubuntu | 23:16 |
| holstein | 16:14 < holstein> http://wootangent.net/music/ | 23:16 |
| holstein | anyways.. did you get sorted? | 23:16 |
| holstein | JACK? | 23:16 |
| dludldin | jack is ok | 23:18 |
| dludldin | just a minute | 23:18 |
| holstein | COOL | 23:18 |
| dludldin | would you help to connect tuxguitar to qsynth via jack? this would be a good learning experience | 23:20 |
| holstein | sure | 23:21 |
| holstein | in theory | 23:21 |
| dludldin | trying to listen to your 30 second thing but not being able to | 23:21 |
| holstein | you get JACK running | 23:21 |
| holstein | open 'connect' | 23:21 |
| holstein | and thats where all the JACK friendly apps will show up | 23:22 |
| holstein | and im not quite sure what tuxguitar looks like | 23:22 |
| holstein | but, see if it just shows up there | 23:22 |
| dludldin | why can t listen to groove.ogg? | 23:25 |
| holstein | .ogg ? | 23:25 |
| holstein | maybe | 23:25 |
| dludldin | your 30 second thing | 23:25 |
| holstein | try downloading it | 23:26 |
| holstein | open a terminal | 23:26 |
| holstein | wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/groove.ogg | 23:26 |
| holstein | you can navigate to your Music directory first if you want | 23:27 |
| holstein | cd /home/you/Music | 23:27 |
| holstein | wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/groove.ogg | 23:27 |
| holstein | its not that big a deal though ;) | 23:27 |
| dludldin | i downloaded it but media player dont read it | 23:27 |
| holstein | which media player? | 23:28 |
| holstein | it should just play in the browser | 23:28 |
| dludldin | ubuntu default | 23:28 |
| dludldin | movie player i guess | 23:28 |
| holstein | OH | 23:28 |
| holstein | you got JACK going | 23:28 |
| holstein | you would have to route it | 23:28 |
| holstein | you can do that later ;) | 23:28 |
| dludldin | that s it :) | 23:29 |
| dludldin | how have you done this? | 23:29 |
| holstein | the track? | 23:30 |
| dludldin | yes | 23:31 |
| holstein | i just did acoustic instruments | 23:31 |
| holstein | overdubbed | 23:31 |
| holstein | with ardour | 23:31 |
| holstein | routed in JACK | 23:31 |
| holstein | using a presonus firepod interface | 23:31 |
| holstein | mixed with ardour, and routed through JAMin | 23:31 |
| dludldin | i guess it sounds brazilian | 23:32 |
| holstein | ah | 23:32 |
| holstein | cool :) | 23:33 |
| dludldin | flute , some small string instrument , acoustic bass , percussion? | 23:34 |
| holstein | nylon string parlor guitar | 23:34 |
| holstein | like a little classical guitar | 23:34 |
| holstein | open holed bamboo flute | 23:34 |
| holstein | acoustic bass | 23:35 |
| holstein | i think that was just a floor tom or something | 23:35 |
| holstein | banging on it and the rim | 23:35 |
| holstein | and i got http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/osmp30.ogg | 23:36 |
| holstein | more rockin ;) | 23:36 |
| dludldin | very nice mix. pro quality sound | 23:36 |
| holstein | i need to re-do some of the parts though | 23:36 |
| holstein | i got distracted before i got a good final mix on it | 23:36 |
| holstein | dludldin: thanks :) | 23:36 |
| dludldin | well i prefer the acoustic one | 23:42 |
| holstein | me too | 23:42 |
| holstein | trying to do some commercial stuff though | 23:42 |
| dludldin | how do you record electric guitar? | 23:43 |
| holstein | i went right into a preamp | 23:43 |
| holstein | i have a presonus eureka | 23:43 |
| holstein | then into the firepod | 23:43 |
| holstein | the effects are all rakarrack | 23:44 |
| holstein | acoustic drums | 23:44 |
| holstein | synth everything else | 23:44 |
| holstein | but i dont really do much MIDI | 23:44 |
| holstein | i tend to just route in JACK and play the synth stuff live | 23:45 |
| dludldin | firepod? | 23:45 |
| holstein | like an anolog rig | 23:45 |
| holstein | http://www.presonus.com/products/detail.aspx?productid=3 | 23:45 |
| holstein | ^^ they call the firepod the FP-10 now | 23:45 |
| dludldin | holstein : thanks for helping with jack | 23:49 |
| holstein | dludldin: anytime :) | 23:50 |
| dludldin | hey holstein do you like satriani? | 23:51 |
| holstein | i used to listen some | 23:52 |
| holstein | i dont remember any of the tunes or albums though | 23:52 |
| holstein | years ago really | 23:52 |
| holstein | good stuff | 23:53 |
| dludldin | in deed he really is a good guitar player ; ) | 23:54 |
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