[00:38] <Splashman> hi all
[15:20] <[Damaskinos]> salve ubuntu studio non è anche in versione live per provarla?
[18:54] <dludldin> hello everybody!
[18:55] <holstein> dludldin: hello :)
[18:56] <dludldin> right know tuxguitar is working fine with me but i had problems to get it ok
[18:57] <holstein> do share
[19:00] <dludldin> at this moment im making an update perhaps this could solve the problem but anyway if don't i guess that tuxguitar 1.1 and 1.2 have problems with java synth
[19:01] <holstein> OH
[19:01] <holstein> i remember tuxguitar now
[19:01] <holstein> i dont need tablature
[19:01] <holstein> SO i just kinda opened it up
[19:01] <dludldin> when java synth is enabled tuxguitar takes its time to run apox 1minute maybe less
[19:01] <holstein> maybe in karmic?
[19:01] <holstein> is that for monitoring?
[19:02] <holstein> i would probably just route tuxguitar to whatever synth i want to use
[19:02] <holstein> in JACK
[19:02] <holstein> assuming it has proper JACK support
[19:02] <holstein> i did not try that
[19:02] <dludldin> jack is another one that gave me issues too
[19:03] <holstein> how so?
[19:03] <holstein> that is kinda the 'heart' of the linux audio system
[19:04] <dludldin> for what i can remember first time i installed jack was in a fluydsynt plugin to tuxguitar that consequently had to install jack
[19:04] <holstein> sounds right
[19:05] <dludldin> dont know if jack works i havent tested yet
[19:06] <holstein> again, thats really the center of it all
[19:06] <holstein> learning JACK
[19:06] <holstein> and getting it running properly is key
[19:07] <dludldin> after solving jack's non starting problem i havent tested at least it runs know
[19:07] <holstein> you dont have to, but its SO handy
[19:07] <holstein> and like your situation
[19:07] <holstein> when you need to route a synth from something like tuxguitar
[19:07] <holstein> you just make the connection in JACK
[19:09] <dludldin> is it 0.4% at jack o.k.?
[19:09] <holstein> well, what are your settings?
[19:09] <holstein> did you start from 'jack control'?
[19:10] <dludldin> yes
[19:11] <holstein> so, click on setup
[19:12] <holstein> the 'settings' tab
[19:12] <holstein> you using the alsa driver with an internal sound card?
[19:12] <dludldin> yap
[19:12] <holstein> OK
[19:12] <holstein> in the lower right
[19:12] <holstein> what is the latency?
[19:13] <holstein> in msec ?
[19:13] <dludldin> 46.4
[19:13] <dludldin> 46.4 msec
[19:13] <holstein> OK
[19:13] <holstein> thats decent for an internal card
[19:14] <holstein> you see in the middle there?
[19:14] <holstein> sample rate?
[19:14] <holstein> i set that, and suggest that be set to 41000
[19:14] <holstein> above and below that
[19:14] <holstein> frames/period
[19:14] <dludldin> 44100
[19:14] <holstein> and period/buffers
[19:14] <holstein> those are the 2 settings we 'tweak'
[19:14] <holstein> to effect the latency
[19:15] <holstein> you might not need the latency to be lower
[19:15] <holstein> IF
[19:15] <dludldin> 1024 2
[19:15] <holstein> when you run programs
[19:15] <holstein> you get xruns
[19:15] <holstein> you can come here and change those settings
[19:15] <holstein> raise them
[19:15] <holstein> maybe to
[19:15] <holstein> 1024 3
[19:15] <holstein> that kind of tweak will increase your latency
[19:16] <holstein> potentially fixing that xrun issue
[19:16] <holstein> IF you have the issue
[19:16] <holstein> the only reason to need super low latency
[19:16] <holstein> is if you are doing live effects processing
[19:16] <holstein> SAY, you got your guitar plugged in to your sound card
[19:16] <holstein> you route that in JACK to rakarrack
[19:17] <holstein> and out to your sound card
[19:17] <holstein> you play your guitar
[19:17] <holstein> and 46ms later
[19:17] <holstein> you hear the effected signal
[19:17] <holstein> thats not too good
[19:17] <holstein> OR
[19:17] <dludldin> i have to test it if it sounds good
[19:17] <holstein> if you have a midi synth plugged in
[19:17] <holstein> you'll play a note
[19:18] <holstein> and 46ms later
[19:18] <holstein> you hear the sound you have selected
[19:18] <holstein> again, probably unwanted
[19:18] <holstein> IF you dont have these 'realtime' requirements
[19:18] <holstein> then, dont sweat it
[19:19] <dludldin> do you know if these three messages are bad   sh: artsshell: not found ,JACK: unable to mlock() port buffers: Cannot allocate memory,cannot lock down memory for RT thread
[19:20] <holstein> yeah
[19:20] <holstein> JACK is not running then
[19:20] <holstein> is this lucid?
[19:20] <holstein> 10.04?
[19:20] <dludldin> yes
[19:20] <holstein> in 'setup'
[19:21] <holstein> see the checkbox for realtime?
[19:21] <dludldin> yap
[19:21] <holstein> uncheck that if its checked
[19:21] <holstein> then say 'ok'
[19:21] <holstein> and close jack control
[19:21] <holstein> open a terminal
[19:21] <holstein> and type
[19:21] <holstein> sudo adduser dludldin audio
[19:22] <holstein> ^^ assuming dludldin is the username on your box
[19:22] <holstein> i would type
[19:22] <holstein> sudo adduser holstein audio
[19:25] <dludldin> right know only get a possible bad message    sh: artsshell: not found
[19:27] <holstein> AH
[19:27] <holstein> progress
[19:27] <holstein> close jackcontrol
[19:27] <holstein> open a terminal
[19:27] <holstein> and typr
[19:27] <holstein> type*
[19:27] <holstein> sudo qjackctl
[19:28] <holstein> and see if JACK starts
[19:28] <holstein> then we'll talk about trouble shooting further
[19:30] <dludldin> in terminal i get suspending pulse audio and in jack messages 19:28:45.722 Patchbay deactivated.
[19:30] <dludldin> 19:28:45.832 Statistics reset.
[19:30] <dludldin> 19:28:45.871 ALSA connection graph change.
[19:30] <dludldin> 19:28:46.125 ALSA connection change.
[19:30] <holstein> OK
[19:30] <holstein> is JACK running though?
[19:30] <dludldin> no
[19:30] <holstein> says 'stopped'
[19:30] <holstein> in the main window?
[19:31] <dludldin> yes
[19:31] <holstein> hmmm
[19:31] <holstein> internal card makes sound otherwise?
[19:31] <dludldin> give me three or four minutes holstein
[19:31] <holstein> sure
[19:37] <dludldin> hi again
[19:38] <holstein> :)
[19:38] <dludldin> well i can hear mp3 when jack is not running
[19:39] <holstein> OK
[19:39] <holstein> thats good
[19:39] <holstein> open in terminal
[19:40] <holstein> sudo qjackctl
[19:40] <holstein> and lets look at your settings again
[19:40] <holstein> in 'setup'
[19:40] <holstein> on the right column
[19:40] <holstein> what is under 'interface' ?
[19:40] <holstein> default?
[19:42] <dludldin> yes
[19:42] <holstein> hmmm
[19:42] <holstein> try hitting start again
[19:42] <holstein> as root
[19:42] <holstein> and see what it says
[19:46] <dludldin> as root says starting then goes black and white and im not able to close it
[19:46] <dludldin> i had jack running ok in ubuntu 8.04
[19:46] <holstein> well, this is what needs to be sorted out
[19:46] <holstein> and i got a meeting here in a minute
[19:47] <holstein> let me give you some suggestions
[19:47] <holstein> of course #jack
[19:47] <holstein> and #opensourcemusicians
[19:47] <holstein> and the ubuntustudio mailing list
[19:47] <dludldin> ok im gratefull for your time
[19:47] <holstein> im in here alot though
[19:47] <holstein> and i'll try again later with you if you dont get it sorted :)
[19:48] <dludldin> ok see you later then, thanks
[21:03] <dludldin> anyone make music?
[21:13] <holstein> hello again dludldin :)
[21:13] <holstein> heres a little 30 second thing i did not too long ago
[21:14] <holstein> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/groove.ogg
[21:14] <holstein> and heres a friends music all made with ubuntu
[21:14] <holstein> http://wootangent.net/music/
[22:12] <aputamkon> hello
[22:12] <plotino> hi everybody
[22:12] <plotino> im trying to connect my MIDI keyboard to PC
[22:12] <aputamkon> any 1 know what system is best to dual boot with ubuntu? emachines dell hp?
[22:13] <plotino> this keyb is an old portatone
[22:13] <plotino> it has synthesizer capability
[22:13] <plotino> im trying to get it play from hydrogen + jack
[22:13] <plotino> anybody knows hoe to do that?
[22:15] <aputamkon> no idead my self sorry
[23:14] <dludldin> hi
[23:15] <dludldin> holstein : are you there
[23:15] <holstein> dludldin: hey
[23:16] <holstein> did you see my posts earlier?
[23:16] <holstein> 16:14 < holstein> heres a little 30 second thing i did not too long ago
[23:16] <holstein> 16:14 < holstein> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/groove.ogg
[23:16] <holstein> 16:14 < holstein> and heres a friends music all made with ubuntu
[23:16] <holstein> 16:14 < holstein> http://wootangent.net/music/
[23:16] <holstein> anyways.. did you get sorted?
[23:16] <holstein> JACK?
[23:18] <dludldin> jack is ok
[23:18] <dludldin> just a minute
[23:18] <holstein> COOL
[23:20] <dludldin> would you help to connect tuxguitar to qsynth via jack? this would be a good learning experience
[23:21] <holstein> sure
[23:21] <holstein> in theory
[23:21] <dludldin> trying to listen to your 30 second thing but not being able to
[23:21] <holstein> you get JACK running
[23:21] <holstein> open 'connect'
[23:22] <holstein> and thats where all the JACK friendly apps will show up
[23:22] <holstein> and im not quite sure what tuxguitar looks like
[23:22] <holstein> but, see if it just shows up there
[23:25] <dludldin> why can t listen to groove.ogg?
[23:25] <holstein> .ogg ?
[23:25] <holstein> maybe
[23:25] <dludldin> your 30 second thing
[23:26] <holstein> try downloading it
[23:26] <holstein> open a terminal
[23:26] <holstein> wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/groove.ogg
[23:27] <holstein> you can navigate to your Music directory first if you want
[23:27] <holstein> cd /home/you/Music
[23:27] <holstein> wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/groove.ogg
[23:27] <holstein> its not that big a deal though ;)
[23:27] <dludldin> i downloaded it but media player dont read it
[23:28] <holstein> which media player?
[23:28] <holstein> it should just play in the browser
[23:28] <dludldin> ubuntu default
[23:28] <dludldin> movie player i guess
[23:28] <holstein> OH
[23:28] <holstein> you got JACK going
[23:28] <holstein> you would have to route it
[23:28] <holstein> you can do that later ;)
[23:29] <dludldin> that s it :)
[23:29] <dludldin> how have you done this?
[23:30] <holstein> the track?
[23:31] <dludldin> yes
[23:31] <holstein> i just did acoustic instruments
[23:31] <holstein> overdubbed
[23:31] <holstein> with ardour
[23:31] <holstein> routed in JACK
[23:31] <holstein> using a presonus firepod interface
[23:31] <holstein> mixed with ardour, and routed through JAMin
[23:32] <dludldin> i guess it sounds brazilian
[23:32] <holstein> ah
[23:33] <holstein> cool :)
[23:34] <dludldin> flute , some small string instrument , acoustic bass , percussion?
[23:34] <holstein> nylon string parlor guitar
[23:34] <holstein> like a little classical guitar
[23:34] <holstein> open holed bamboo flute
[23:35] <holstein> acoustic bass
[23:35] <holstein> i think that was just a floor tom or something
[23:35] <holstein> banging on it and the rim
[23:36] <holstein> and i got http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/osmp30.ogg
[23:36] <holstein> more rockin ;)
[23:36] <dludldin> very nice mix. pro quality sound
[23:36] <holstein> i need to re-do some of the parts though
[23:36] <holstein> i got distracted before i got a good final mix on it
[23:36] <holstein> dludldin: thanks :)
[23:42] <dludldin> well i prefer the acoustic one
[23:42] <holstein> me too
[23:42] <holstein> trying to do some commercial stuff though
[23:43] <dludldin> how do you record electric guitar?
[23:43] <holstein> i went right into a preamp
[23:43] <holstein> i have a presonus eureka
[23:43] <holstein> then into the firepod
[23:44] <holstein> the effects are all rakarrack
[23:44] <holstein> acoustic drums
[23:44] <holstein> synth everything else
[23:44] <holstein> but i dont really do much MIDI
[23:45] <holstein> i tend to just route in JACK and play the synth stuff live
[23:45] <dludldin> firepod?
[23:45] <holstein> like an anolog rig
[23:45] <holstein> http://www.presonus.com/products/detail.aspx?productid=3
[23:45] <holstein> ^^ they call the firepod the FP-10 now
[23:49] <dludldin> holstein : thanks for helping with jack
[23:50] <holstein> dludldin: anytime :)
[23:51] <dludldin> hey holstein do you like satriani?
[23:52] <holstein> i used to listen some
[23:52] <holstein> i dont remember any of the tunes or albums though
[23:52] <holstein> years ago really
[23:53] <holstein> good stuff
[23:54] <dludldin> in deed he really is a good guitar player ; )