[01:36] <likemindead> Anyone done a 10.04 to 10.10 upgrade in Xubuntu yet?
[06:16] <Hydrozii> anybody run fluxbox?
[06:17] <Leroy> i have
[06:18] <Leroy> not on xubuntu tho. on debian and gentoo, slack and some other distros
[06:18] <Leroy> to many ands there but you get the idea. ;)
[06:24] <homebrewcider> help, my desktop background photo has disappeared form the desktop, it's still there in the settings manager
[06:24] <homebrewcider> but not on display on the desktop
[06:26] <Hydrozii> leroy can you help me get a Internet connection in fluxbox without running a de
[06:26] <Sysi> wlan/lan?
[06:26] <Leroy> hey Hydrozii i see you over in #ubuntu. those guys have you on the right track.
[06:32] <homebrewcider> my desktop icons have gone as well
[06:32] <homebrewcider> where would the applicable desktop menu be located please
[06:32] <Sysi> log out and back in?
[06:32] <homebrewcider> restarted already
[06:33] <Sysi> do you have nautilus installed?
[06:33] <homebrewcider> no
[06:34] <Leroy> you can't just right click and get menu? what version of xubuntu are you running homebrewcider ?
[06:34] <homebrewcider> 10.04
[06:34] <Leroy> no right click?
[06:34] <Sysi> killall xfdesktop
[06:35] <homebrewcider> went to applications>settings>settings manager>desktop
[06:35] <homebrewcider> photo still shows up there
[06:35] <homebrewcider> but exiting that does nothing
[06:35] <Sysi> it's crashed
[06:35] <Sysi> try: killall xfdesktop
[06:35] <homebrewcider> so my options are?
[06:36] <homebrewcider> ok then?
[06:36] <Sysi> idk what happens then
[06:36] <Sysi> it works or not
[06:36] <Leroy> and is single image button checked?
[06:36] <homebrewcider> to restart it
[06:36] <homebrewcider> ?
[07:17] <homebrewcider> hey I managed to get my desktop background and icons back, but the panel I have to start with a terminal command, when I close th eterminal the panel shuts down, how can I get it to stay please?
[07:18] <psycho_oreos> !panel
[07:19] <homebrewcider> thank you
[07:20] <psycho_oreos> no worries
[13:59] <nikolam> ok, why i see gnome desktop from time to time, instead of xfdesktop
[13:59] <nikolam> when I kill xfdesktop , it gets back then
[13:59] <Sysi> nautilus?
[14:00] <nikolam> i don't know why it is started, eather
[14:00] <nikolam> and now, when I kill nautilus it gets back on the screen etc
[14:00] <Sysi> because you have it installed
[14:01] <nikolam> so I had it installed in 9.10 and it was not always active then
[14:01] <nikolam> there are gnome secvices turned on in xfce settings, btw
[14:02] <nikolam> I guess it is there to be able to start gnome dependent applications a bit faster
[14:19] <elfonia> how can i change my desktop wallpaper with openbox? thanks.
[14:29] <mark76> Isn't that more a question for the openbox irc channel?
[14:29] <mark76> Which is at irc.oftc.net
[14:30] <mark76> I'd use Feh or Nitrogen
[14:30] <bazhang> yep feh
[14:30] <mark76> Nitrogen's less complicated
[14:30] <bazhang> !info feh
[14:30] <mark76> !info nitrogen
[14:30] <bazhang> nice, never heard of it
[14:31] <bazhang> http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/04/28/browse-and-set-wallpaper-in-openbox-with-feh/
[14:31] <mark76> And only 20 kBs more installed
[14:32] <mark76> http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/#Nitrogen
[14:33] <mark76> Nitrogen has a nice GUI
[14:33] <bazhang> elfonia, ^^
[14:34] <elfonia> thanks, i'll try
[14:35] <mark76> Or you could use PCMAnFM or Rox-Filer to set the background
[14:36] <mark76> !info ROX-Filer
[14:36] <mark76> !info rox-filer
[14:37] <mark76> !info pcmanfm
[14:37] <mark76> Take your pick
[15:38] <xubuntu_test_003> exit
[15:38] <xubuntu_test_003> close
[15:54] <Sysi> maveric has some really interesting bugs
[15:54] <Sysi> aptitude don't work, xfce terminal has weir issues
[15:56] <charlie-tca> aptitude is not installed
[15:56] <Sysi> i installed it
[15:57] <charlie-tca> Since the TERM variable is getting lost, all you need is to set the variable and it works fine again
[15:57] <Sysi> it can't still start ssh-command from panel
[15:58] <charlie-tca> I don't how to make aptitude work, I think I used it three times now in 5 years
[15:59] <Sysi> i think i'll go back to lucid in this "productive machine"
[16:06] <Sysi> installer was nice
[16:10] <Guest9926> hi people i have just freshley installed xubuntu on my pc and wanted to use the official driver from nvidia but i cannot stop gdm
[16:10] <charlie-tca> stop gdm?
[16:10] <Guest9926> when entering "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" i get the following message:
[16:10] <Guest9926>  failed to acquire org.gnome.displaymanager
[16:10] <charlie-tca> Why do you need to stop gdm?
[16:11] <Sysi> why don't you install it from repositories?
[16:11] <Guest9926> well i have downloaded the driver from nvidia
[16:11] <Sysi> system → hardware drivers
[16:11] <charlie-tca> and it won't work anymore, AFAIR
[16:12] <Guest9926> i tried before but i cannot reach a resolution of 1280x1024 after installing the driver from the repository
[16:12] <Sysi> what nvidia card?
[16:12] <Guest9926> and i have manually added the 1208x1024 mode without an affect
[16:18] <Guest9926> it is an nvidia ion card
[16:18] <Guest9926> is the small zotac board
[16:20] <Guest9926> Sysi: you there?
[16:21] <Sysi> pong
[16:22] <Guest9926> :)
[16:22] <Guest9926> so what is there to do?
[16:23] <Sysi> service gdm stop
[16:23] <Guest9926> that doesnt work
[16:24] <Sysi> telinit 3
[16:25] <Guest9926> one sec
[16:26] <Guest9926> no error messages
[16:27] <Guest9926> but ctrl+alt+f7 still gives me a screen to work with
[16:27] <Guest9926> runlevel gives me: "2 3"
[16:31] <Guest9926> Sysi:...
[16:32] <Sysi> i can only tell that's extremely weird
[16:32] <Guest9926> ... ok
[19:30] <adam_> I installed xubuntu and I want to access my windows shares, what's the best method?
[19:31] <charlie-tca> gigolo
[19:34] <adam_> nice
[19:34] <adam_> but for some reason it's failing
[19:35] <adam_> it finds the shares but I get an error
[19:35] <charlie-tca> !gigolo
[19:35] <charlie-tca> maybe got to add something yet?
[19:35] <adam_> weird
[19:35] <charlie-tca> !samba
[19:35] <adam_> one of the shared folders work
[19:38] <adam_> it's asking for a username and password
[19:38] <adam_> even though "Everyone" is permitted
[19:39] <charlie-tca> That should be the windows username and password, I thing
[19:39] <charlie-tca> s/thing/think
[19:39] <adam_> yeah I tried that but it's not working still
[19:48] <adam_> oh well
[19:48] <adam_> at least one of my shares work
[20:29] <Adriasil> hi there.
[20:30] <mark76> Hola!
[20:30] <Adriasil> I'm trying to install Xubuntu 10.04, but I am getting an error message...
[20:30] <Adriasil> it reads:
[20:30] <Adriasil> "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[20:31] <Adriasil> I'm just wondering what this means and how I can fix it....
[20:31] <charlie-tca> it's not seeing the cd
[20:31] <Sysi> how are you trying to install?
[20:31] <Adriasil> hmmmm.....
[20:31] <Adriasil> from the cd.
[20:31] <Adriasil> it won't even go into live mode
[20:32] <Sysi> did you check the cd?
[20:32] <Adriasil> what do you mean?
[20:32] <Adriasil> did I verify after I burnt it?
[20:32] <Adriasil> if so, yes.
[20:33] <Sysi> there's option in meny when you boot
[20:33] <Sysi> but that can be the same
[20:33] <Adriasil> gotcha.
[20:33] <Adriasil> I shall try that.
[20:33] <Adriasil> mmkay.
[20:34] <Adriasil> now, when I tried doing a live boot all I got was slightly corrupted text saying Xubuntu....
[20:34] <Adriasil> could this be a sign that the disc is corrupted/
[20:34] <Adriasil> *?
[20:36] <charlie-tca> yes
[20:36] <Adriasil> I'm going to start re-downloading then.
[20:36] <charlie-tca> It might be just a bad burn, too
[20:38] <Adriasil> could be, but I'm using Toast Titanium, so it really shouldn't be
[20:38]  * Adriasil goes to get his stack of blank CDs.
[20:39] <Adriasil> ah, how I love the white cursor of doom.
[20:39]  * charlie-tca has one system will burn bad cd's everytime it is used.
[20:39] <Adriasil> oooooooooooh... that's rough.
[20:39] <Sysi> is usb boot possible?
[20:40] <Adriasil> possibly.
[20:40] <Adriasil> hold on one moment.
[20:42]  * Adriasil found a memory stick!
[20:42] <Adriasil> okay.
[20:43] <Adriasil> so how do I usb boot?
[20:45] <Sysi> put image to fat32 formatted usb-stick with usb-creator or unetbootin
[20:52] <Adriasil> are ther any programs that will do that for mac?
[20:52] <Adriasil> *there
[21:25] <Adriasil> okay I've re-DLed it and re-burnt it.
[21:25] <Adriasil> something is starting to happen now.
[21:25] <charlie-tca> yay
[21:25] <Adriasil> I"ve got the white cursor of doom again.
[21:25] <Adriasil> >_>
[21:25] <charlie-tca> I don't know what that is
[21:25] <Adriasil> let's see if it can get past this.
[21:26] <Adriasil> basically my whole screen is black, nope.
[21:26] <Adriasil> I've just got the weird looking corrupted-ish image.
[21:26] <charlie-tca> can you switch to a tty with ctrl+alt+F2?
[21:27] <Adriasil> tty?
[21:27] <charlie-tca> a different terminal
[21:27] <Adriasil> pressed it anyways.
[21:27] <Adriasil> back to the terminal.
[21:27] <Adriasil> ugggggggggggggh.
[21:27] <Adriasil> same message again.
[21:28] <Adriasil> wow. this is getting old quick.
[21:28] <Adriasil> "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[21:45] <Adriasil> is it possible to turn error reporting on?
[21:45] <charlie-tca> sure
[21:46] <charlie-tca> Have you tried hitting F4 at the menu, and choosing Safe Graphics?
[21:46] <Adriasil> `mmmm.....
[21:47] <charlie-tca> You can hit F6 at the menu, then ESCape. then add debug-ubiquity at the end of the line
[21:47] <charlie-tca> hit enter, hit enter again to start the install
[21:47] <Adriasil> I shall try that.
[21:47] <charlie-tca> You can also use F6 to show the line, remove "quiet splash" from it to see what is happening
[21:50] <Adriasil> I odn't have any of those options.
[21:51] <Adriasil> F4 only brings up:
[21:51] <Adriasil> Normal
[21:51] <Adriasil> Use driver update disc and OEM install (for manufacturers)
[21:52] <Adriasil> oh, I see where quiet splash is now.
[21:54] <Adriasil> mmkay.
[21:54] <Adriasil> I'll try that.
[21:56] <Adriasil> I'm getting a lot of "ata#: link is slow to respond"
[21:57] <Adriasil> line 7" can't open /dev/sr0: No medium founf.
[21:57] <Adriasil> *found
[21:58] <Adriasil> *line 7:
[21:58] <Adriasil>  /init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found
[21:58] <Adriasil> and that's where it's going wrong.
[21:58] <Adriasil> >_>
[21:58] <Adriasil> hmmmmmmm.
[21:59] <Sysi> are you sure cd-drive is working?
[21:59] <Adriasil> I think so.
[21:59] <Adriasil> because it's detected by my BIOS now.
[22:00] <Adriasil> my slave drives are still mysteriously MIA.
[22:01] <charlie-tca> Those errors are a hardware malfunction
[22:01] <Adriasil> hmmmmm.... okay.
[22:01] <Adriasil> I'll try switching drives,
[22:12] <Adriasil> okay.
[22:12] <Adriasil> how do you wipe a Hard Drive?
[22:12] <phil42> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whichdrive bs=1M
[22:13] <charlie-tca> I just tell it to erase the hard drive and install new on it during the installation
[22:13] <phil42> where 'whichdrive' = the drive that you want to wipe
[22:13] <Adriasil> because it seems like there is a very broken version of windows on one of these HDs.
[22:14] <phil42> it would be safer to wipe the appropriate partition, rather than the entire drive
[22:14] <Adriasil> could that be messing with the installation at all?
[22:15] <phil42> could
[22:16] <Adriasil> ooh.
[22:16] <Adriasil> this seems faster.
[22:16] <Adriasil> hmmm....
[22:17] <phil42> if you specifed something other than a drive for 'whichdrive' you will fill your disk with a file made of all zeroes
[22:17] <Adriasil> that seemed really fast for some reason....
[22:17] <Adriasil> I have hope after all.
[22:17] <phil42> oops,  not true on that last comment,  /dev/ is now a ramdisk
[22:18] <phil42> sort of
[22:18] <Adriasil> I don't think I'm even close to being able to do this.
[22:18] <Adriasil> I'm just trying to get the damn thing to run live.
[22:19] <phil42> running live is easy
[22:19] <Adriasil> these are different messages from what I got last time....
[22:19] <Adriasil> psh. says you.
[22:20] <phil42> as in 'live cd' , right?
[22:20] <Adriasil> I've been tring to get it to work for 5hrs so far.
[22:20] <Adriasil> yup
[22:20] <phil42> can you boot from the cd?
[22:20] <Adriasil> that's what I've been tring to do.
[22:20] <Adriasil> *trying
[22:21] <phil42> do you get asked for the appropriate language when it boots?
[22:21] <Adriasil> yup.
[22:21] <Adriasil> I get the selection screen, but can't get past anything after that.
[22:21] <phil42> then do you get a list of about 5 choices, the top on being, try xubutu ?
[22:21] <Adriasil> yup.
[22:22] <phil42> do you select the first option?
[22:22] <Adriasil> yes.
[22:22] <phil42> what happens then?
[22:22] <Adriasil> but when I select try or install, I'm greeted by a corrupted image and then a terminal cursor.
[22:22] <Adriasil> after about 5-10mins.
[22:22] <phil42> how much memory do you have?
[22:22] <Adriasil> I've just changed CD drives.
[22:22] <Adriasil> 512MB
[22:23] <Adriasil> so, I have enough.
[22:23] <Adriasil> not a lot, but enough.
[22:23] <phil42> it is a little slim for running live
[22:23] <Adriasil> hmmmm....
[22:24] <phil42> do you have an operating system installed that you want to preserve?
[22:24] <Adriasil> if this doesn't work maybe I'll just try selecting install next, and seeing what happens.
[22:24] <Adriasil> nope.
[22:24] <Adriasil> I'm trying to set up a server.
[22:24] <Adriasil> and so far it's not going great.
[22:24] <phil42> what kind of processor do you have?
[22:24] <Adriasil> Intel ummmm.... pentium, maybe.
[22:24] <Adriasil> it's 1.45GHz
[22:25] <phil42> why not try knoppix first, just to check
[22:25] <Adriasil> it's either pentium or celeron.
[22:25] <Adriasil> knoppix?
[22:25] <phil42> it is specifically a live cd distro and made to be super compatible
[22:26] <Adriasil> okay.
[22:26] <Adriasil> my install has stalled on "Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs"
[22:27] <phil42> http://www.kernel.org/pub/dist/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V6.2.1CD-2010-01-31-EN.iso
[22:27] <Adriasil> which is at least different from last time.....
[22:28] <phil42> ^^^^^^   /me points to where it says 'kernel.org'
[22:28] <Adriasil> okay.
[22:28] <Adriasil> DLing now.
[22:28] <Adriasil> wow.
[22:31] <Adriasil> on a slightly related subject you wouldn't happen to know why my slave drives aren't being detected, would you?
[22:31] <phil42> detected by???  the bios?
[22:31] <Adriasil> yeah.
[22:32] <phil42> i read that your system is kind of old,  they might be too big or something.  knoppix or xubuntu might find them
[22:32] <Adriasil> okay, we'll see what happens.
[22:32] <phil42> do you have them jumpered correctly ?
[22:32] <Adriasil> the BIOS is from the late 90s.
[22:33] <charlie-tca> Are they connected with the 80 pin cables?
[22:33] <Adriasil> nope, 40.
[22:34] <charlie-tca> You need the new cables, then. If you have the old IDE cables instead of the new ones, that can make them disappear now. Old cable has black connectors on both ends, and heavy wires.
[22:34] <charlie-tca> New one usually has a blue end, and really thin wires
[22:35] <Adriasil> okay, I'll have a look into that.
[22:36] <charlie-tca> New ones are called ata-100 cables or something like that
[22:38] <Adriasil> okay.
[22:38] <Adriasil> are they reverse compatible?
[22:39] <phil42> you can use the new cable instead of the old one
[22:39] <phil42> using the old cable when you need the new one can cause probles
[22:39] <phil42> *problems
[22:40] <Adriasil> okay.
[22:40] <Adriasil> looks like they're pretty cheap anyways.
[22:40] <Adriasil> :D
[22:40] <phil42> your bios might be old enough that it does not use the drives fast enough to need the new cables
[22:41] <Adriasil> lol
[22:41] <charlie-tca> You need the new cables for the OS to work, even if you don't have ata100+ drives
[22:41] <Adriasil> yeah....
[22:44] <phil42> when you try xubuntu again press escape instead of selecting from the short list.  when you get to the boot prompt enter 'live'
[22:44] <phil42> you will get more information that way
[22:46] <Adriasil> okay.
[22:46] <Adriasil> thanks.
[22:46] <phil42> np  :)
[22:46] <charlie-tca> Adriasil: I guess the pins are the same in both cables, but one has twice as many wires in the cable itself.
[22:46] <Adriasil> for now though, I think I shall get some sleep and resume in the morning.
[22:46] <Adriasil> yeah.
[22:46] <phil42> and the extra wires are all grounds
[22:46] <charlie-tca> Are they?
[22:47] <phil42> yes
[22:47] <charlie-tca> Kind of frustrating, when it work because of the stupid cable
[22:47] <Adriasil> you're telling me.... :D
[22:48] <Adriasil> okay, bye all.
[22:48] <Adriasil> o/
[22:48] <phil42> let us know how it works out
[22:48] <Adriasil> I shall.
[22:48] <Adriasil> I'll probably be back to pester you tomorrow :D
[22:52] <phil42> i was kind of hoping to find out what his problem actually is
[22:53] <charlie-tca> hardware is failing, the cd boots and then gets lost
[23:23] <basti_> hey, great work on 10.04
[23:23] <basti_> running just fine now...