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valoriejussi, do you have regular flash-plugin-nonfree00:00
valorieor 64-bit?00:00
valoriesince I have regular, I'm about to dump that again, and try 64-bit again00:00
valorierestarting KDE, just in case that makes a diff.....00:07
valorieno joy00:18
* freeflying 01:48
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1183343 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Add an installedCount() function that is faster than using the packageCount() overload function that takes a package state flag.03:54
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1183344 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/StatusWidget.cpp Use the new QApt::Backend::installedCount() function in the StatusWidget. Reduces the amount of somewhat expensive QApt::Package::state() calls by the number of available packages. (32,000 on my system)03:59
nixternalhey, kopete, when i click the 'x' to close/hide it, how the hell do you reopen it? clicking on kopete in the message indicator doesn't do a damn thing04:02
ScottKnixternal: Should be in the regular kickoff if nothing else, but I did manage to get it restarted through the MI.  Don't recall how though.04:05
nixternalwell hell, now it works04:05
nixternalgrrrr04:05
nixternalmaybe it just needed a restart04:05
nixternalanyone else a fan of the icons in the system tray?04:05
nixternals/a fan/not a fan/04:06
JontheEchidnaI like klipper, battery, wifi, kmail and konversation04:08
JontheEchidnaall others can gtho04:08
JontheEchidnaand if kmail and konversation could minimize to the message indicator without quitting I'd use the message indicator and give those two the boot04:09
nixternalScottK: mav compositing isn't working like it should on my netbook either. grr baby grr. i have to re-enable it every time04:11
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1183350 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) (log message trimmed)04:58
CIA-116Add more efficient toInstallCount() and toRemoveCount() functions to Backend.04:58
CIA-116These both just grab int's already cached in memory by APT, meaning that we04:58
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1183351 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/StatusWidget.cpp Use the new, more efficient QApt::Backend::toInstallCount and toRemoveCount functions to help improve responsiveness when marking packages.04:59
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1183352 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationModel/ApplicationDelegate.cpp Use isInstalled rather that calling state() and &'ing it with the Installed state flag05:07
dasKreechhi nixternal06:19
dasKreechJontheEchidna: use lionmail?06:20
jussivalorie: do you have ati? /me tries to work out what this issue could be...06:23
Mamarokhm, it is currently impossible to play a CD with Amarok, works in other distros. Also the Device notifier doesn't list Amarok.09:21
MamarokNot good :(09:21
apacheloggersteveire: how about taking grantlee to the web? ;) ... I was thinking about abusing Qt&Grantlee for a sort of CMS project I need to do for university ;)09:24
Mamarokand here comes another Maverick problem: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=84307&p=172526#p17252609:36
Mamarokand here comes the bug report for the iPod Touch/iPhone problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/65590809:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 655908 in amarok (Ubuntu) "iphone zero tracks in amarok" [Undecided,New]09:43
steveireapachelogger: Go for it. What's the idea?09:48
apacheloggersteveire: have a Qt HTTP server to take care of url parsing and provide requested content as (X)HTML pages, those being created using grantlee and data from a database10:09
steveireapachelogger: Makes sense to me.10:17
steveireSounds like you'd be re-creating the rest of Django10:17
apacheloggersteveire: yeah ^^10:22
shadeslayerRiddell: nearly done, i just need to sort the install files ... theyre not arranged alphabetically 10:22
Riddellshadeslayer: "sort" is your friend10:24
shadeslayeryeah... ill be making a script to sort my install files and use that10:24
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: what to do for Natty? http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty | SRUs http://goo.gl/iDJ6
valoriejussi, yes, ati10:35
jussivalorie: ok, perhaps thats a factor then?10:36
jussisigh...10:41
jussitried installing the fglrx and got: SystemError: installArchives() failed10:41
valoriehmm, I'm trying to think of how10:42
valoriebut what do I know about graphics cards and/or drivers10:42
jussihrm, now I got to remember how I fixed this last time10:43
jussihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/507898/10:43
valorieyou had this before?10:44
valorieweird10:45
valoriethe only problem I've had with this card is a little line of dots sort of off-center on the screen10:45
valorienot there in Windows10:45
valoriedisappeared in Lucid10:45
valorienot really noticeable unless there was a dark screen10:46
jussiIve had lots of evilness with this card :(10:46
valorie+++10:46
valoriethis is the worst10:46
valoriedo you have silence in youtube also, or just the 2x speed?10:47
jussisilence also.10:47
valoriewhen troubleshooting a year or more back, I recall my son installing fglrx10:48
valoriebut I didn't have to do anything special after a clean, new install of lucid10:48
jussia clea reinstall takes me alot of time, because this machine has loads of data on it10:50
valoriewell, I didn't want to do that this time around either10:55
valorieit feels like UDS is getting close, and I have so much to do before then10:56
Riddellare you coming to UDS?10:56
valoriethinking about getting a netbook and leaving this big laptop at home10:56
valorieyes, I got word of my sponsorship late last week10:56
Riddellooh nice10:56
valoriestill dont have final word on my airline tickets10:57
valorieyeah, I never thought I would make the cut10:57
Mamarokjussi: use a separate partition for data, then a clean install is done in no time10:57
valorieI have a friend down in Orlando I haven't seen for years10:57
valorieso it's going to be double-fun10:58
valorieMamarok: that made the install so much easier last time10:58
jussi/dev/sda5              48G   15G   31G  33% /home10:58
jussi;)10:58
jussiOh dammit, I forgot to grab my passport and confirm my tix. 11:01
shadeslayertix? :P11:01
Mamarokjussi: well, how is doing a clean isntall a problem then? takes 18 minutes here11:02
MamarokI only move the old $HOME/.kde/ and then copy back selectively what I need from the previous settings11:02
valorie18 minutes?11:03
valoriewow, we should have a speed contest sometime11:03
valorielol11:03
shadeslayerawesome : http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/10/the-300-quadrocopter-your-iphone-is-a-remote-control.ars11:04
shadeslayerMamarok: should take less now, since the installation starts earlier and you can enter the details alonside the install11:05
jussivalorie: watch the vid on that page in our superfast... its quite funny11:05
alulysses: i saw you were updating the hungarian translation11:05
ulyssesal: yes, I'm working on it11:06
alulysses: thanks for that, but why are you starting from a completely new one?11:06
alit was already at 50something percent11:06
Mamarokshadeslayer: btw, did you see my previous lines? No way to pay a CD with Amarok in Maverick, it doesn't show up in hte Device Notifier, and there seems to be a problem with the KIOslave, works with OpenSuSE11:06
ulyssesal: because the old one was completely wrong, typos, wrong spelling11:06
Mamarokplay*11:06
alulysses: oh, ok, never mind then11:06
althanks again11:06
shadeslayerhmm11:07
shadeslayerMamarok: tried with 4.5.2 ?11:07
valoriefreaky in double-speed!11:07
Mamarokcrashes when I try to add to the playlist, Dr. Konqi doesn't start, I will try again with gdb11:07
Mamarokshadeslayer: §I have KDE 4.5.211:07
shadeslayeroh..11:07
Mamaroksame problem as 4.5.11:07
Mamarok4.5.1*11:07
shadeslayermaybe from one of our patches?11:07
valorienighters all -- ping me if you find a fix, jussi, and I'll test11:10
jussik11:10
Mamarokgood night valorie11:10
valoriehave a great day!11:10
* shadeslayer feels a bit weird saying good night... its 4 PM here11:12
jussisomeone point me to the current maverick ISO?11:46
jussicdimage is confusing sometimes11:47
Riddelljussi: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ knows11:48
jussiRiddell: thank you!11:54
apacheloggerraster ftw!12:05
Sputindeed.12:16
shadeslayerapachelogger: how do you switch to raster? plasma-desktop --graphicssystem raster  ?12:21
Riddellshadeslayer: did you go a patch for rupee support?  I opened bug 65619612:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 656196 in kdebase-runtime (Ubuntu) "add rupee symbol" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65619612:58
shadeslayeryeah i saw it, i have a question tho, hold on12:58
shadeslayerhttp://pastebin.com/J5Br5TVu :: does CurrencyUnitSymbolDefault=Rs. need to be changed too?12:59
shadeslayerline 69 :)13:00
Riddellshadeslayer: yes, both CurrencyUnitSymbolDefault=Rs. and CurrencyUnitSymbolUnambiguous=Rs.13:01
shadeslayeralright13:01
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: nope, I use kmail13:13
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/dRCUvet013:16
shadeslayerdo i commit to bzr?13:18
shadeslayeroh wait13:21
shadeslayerdoh... didnt close bug -.-13:21
shadeslayerRiddell: updated debdiff attached to bug13:24
Riddellgroovy13:24
shadeslayerbtw can LP do this : you commit the fix for a bug in a bzr branch and that branch is linked to the bug, the bug status changes to fix committed...13:29
Riddellyes I think so13:31
Riddell--lpbug on your bzr commit or something similar13:31
agateauRiddell: shadeslayer --fixes lp:12345613:32
shadeslayerah ok13:32
* agateau is helping people with bzr, hell is about to freeze13:32
shadeslayerhehe13:33
shadeslayerbzr help bugs has a whole load of info :P13:33
shadeslayeragateau: btw is qtdbusmenu broken in svn/git ?13:33
agateaushadeslayer: not that I know of13:34
shadeslayerbecause in project neon we had :  Could NOT find DBusMenuQt: Found version "..", but required is at least13:34
shadeslayerkdebase couldnt find qtdbusmenu 13:34
agateaushadeslayer: oh ok, this should be fixed by now13:35
shadeslayerok then :)13:35
shadeslayerill request a new build of qtdbusmenu then ...13:35
agateaushadeslayer: you need an update of kdelibs actually13:41
shadeslayeroh.. ok13:41
agateaushadeslayer: because the fix is in FindDBusMenuQt.cmake in kdelibs13:42
shadeslayerah 13:42
shadeslayerhave you seen http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/13:42
shadeslayerthat was on CNN today... apparently FF+chrome+safari now have 50% browser share :D13:43
shadeslayerIE has the other 50%13:43
markeyVIM - Vi IMproved 7.2 (2008 Aug 9, compiled Sep 28 2010 11:01:12)13:51
markeybleh13:51
markeyno 7.3 in Maverick? :)13:51
Tm_Tmarkey: nah, we only care about nano13:54
* Tm_T hides13:54
* markey laughs hysterically13:55
Tm_TI actually use nano to edit wiki pages quite often these days13:57
shadeslayerhmm... visa interview tomorrow, i should really start preparing something 13:59
shadeslayerRiddell: btw Mamarok reported that you cant play CD's with amarok on KDE 4.5.1 with maverick14:03
shadeslayersame with 4.5.214:03
markeyhmm, does the KIO slave work?14:03
markeywe use that14:03
shadeslayermarkey: thats the main issue i think14:03
shadeslayer<Mamarok> shadeslayer: btw, did you see my previous lines? No way to pay a CD with Amarok in Maverick, it doesn't show up in hte Device Notifier, and there seems to be a problem with the KIOslave, works with OpenSuSE14:04
markeynot good, hm14:04
shadeslayerKIOslave is in.... kdelibs?14:04
markeymaybe in kdebase/workspace14:05
markeyor so14:05
markeynot sure14:05
shadeslayerlooking at both.. might be one of our patches14:05
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1183456 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (Application.cpp Application.h ApplicationWindow.cpp) (log message trimmed)14:12
CIA-116-Add a new validity boolean member to the Application class that is set to false14:12
CIA-116in the event of parsing failure. (e.g. the .directory files in the14:12
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1183457 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/Application.cpp Use package() instead of m_package as a fallback in Application::name() too. (Forgot to save in Kate)14:13
markeyMamarok: so anyway, if the KIO audiocd slave doesn't work in Kubuntu, it can't work in Amarok either14:14
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1183458 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/Application.cpp Sometimes the GenericName field is used for the Application description rather than the standard Comment field. Use it as a fallback.14:17
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1183460 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/Application.cpp Less casting from ascii14:20
shadeslayerRiddell: for some reason kchart/pics folder isnt being picked up by cmake15:42
shadeslayeri.e B10List-missing doesnt show those files as missing, and i had to comment out those files from install files as they were causing FTBFS15:43
Riddellis the files don't exist any more they will need to be removed from the .install files15:47
Riddellthey won't show up in --list-missing, that's the opposite, files that need added to .install files15:47
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1183487 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (package.cpp package.h) (log message trimmed)15:48
CIA-116Add a more efficient latin1Section function. Since QLatin1String returns an15:48
CIA-116empty string when it encounters null char pointers, we can use latin1Section()15:48
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1183488 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp s/QMap/QHash for instantly faster lookups. (We don't care the order our pairs are stored in) Also, use QLatin1String for more no-cast-from-ascii support15:50
shadeslayerRiddell: the issue is that those files exsisit15:53
shadeslayer*exsist15:53
shadeslayerbut they are not getting installed/compiled 15:53
Riddellthey've been removed from the build system15:53
Riddellso end result for us is they don't exist15:53
shadeslayeruh... how/why?15:54
Riddellyou can dig into CMakeLists.txt files if you want but for the most part we can assume upstream know what they're doing15:54
shadeslayertheres  no rule for that i think15:54
shadeslayerthe CMakeLists.txt says addsubdirectory( pics )15:54
shadeslayerhttp://pastebin.com/BeynPFLg15:55
shadeslayerahh ohh15:56
shadeslayeri think im missing a dep15:56
shadeslayerhttp://pastebin.com/AknDmA6315:58
shadeslayerkchart isnt listed there15:58
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I think you meant to reply to dasKreech not me?15:58
Riddellopenjpeg is troublesome, we can't have that 15:59
shadeslayeryeah15:59
apacheloggershadeslayer: yes15:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: yes to what? :D15:59
apacheloggerfor plasma-netbook you can actually do it via the config too15:59
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: oh, yeah...15:59
apacheloggershadeslayer: ad how to use raster15:59
Riddelllittlecms isn't anything new, there's probably a good reason why we don't have that15:59
shadeslayeroh ok15:59
RiddellDCMTK sounds new though15:59
shadeslayerlibdcmtk1-dev15:59
shadeslayerthats in main15:59
Riddellhandy15:59
shadeslayerno wait.. universe15:59
shadeslayerliblcms1-dev is in main15:59
Riddellwell universe is fine for this16:00
shadeslayerhmm.. liblcms1-dev is in build deps but not fould16:00
shadeslayer*found16:00
Riddellthen you have to dig deeper16:00
Riddellis it a wrong version16:00
Riddellwhat is the cmake test looking for and what's it not getting16:00
shadeslayerah16:02
shadeslayerwe have 1.1816:02
shadeslayer!info liblcms1-dev maverick16:02
ubottuliblcms1-dev (source: lcms): Color management library (Development headers). In component main, is optional. Version 1.18.dfsg-1ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 190 kB, installed size 512 kB16:02
shadeslayerneeds 2.016:03
Riddellthat'll be it then16:03
Riddellso ignore that for now, we can sort it in natty16:03
shadeslayerright16:03
shadeslayerbut what about cmake saying kchart wont be build16:03
shadeslayerlines 17-2516:03
shadeslayerhttp://pastebin.com/bv5c1zET :: entire build till now 16:04
shadeslayeri canceled it for the time being16:04
Riddellnothing about kchart there16:05
RiddellI think kchart isn't ment to be built anyway16:05
shadeslayerhmm... well16:08
shadeslayershould i remove that from control file then?16:08
shadeslayeror just leave it? ... since the binary is built16:08
shadeslayerbut it doesnt pick up the icons and stuff16:08
shadeslayerRiddell: leave it as such?16:16
shadeslayeri.e comment out the files which are not getting picked up?16:17
jussiright, I found a few errors in the ubiquity slideshow wording today, where should I go to change them?16:18
shadeslayerIIRC theres a bzr branch for that16:20
shadeslayerjussi: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk16:20
shadeslayerso : bzr pull that, bzr push to your own account and ask for mergery16:21
shadeslayeror if you have access just bzr push to same branch :)16:21
jussishadeslayer: I did bzr branch lp:ubiquity16:51
jussido I now then go change whatever directly? then push back to my LP?16:51
shadeslayerjussi: yes, change -> bzr commit16:52
shadeslayerand then bzr push foo16:52
jussiright, thanks!16:52
jussinow I just got to actually fix it16:52
shadeslayeroh and if it fixes bugs, use --fixes lp: <bug no> : along with bzr commit 16:53
shadeslayerRiddell: im uploading to ninjas, with my changes16:55
jussishadeslayer: nah, no bugs afaik.16:59
jussiI just got to find where the slideshow slides are now16:59
jussiahh, think Ive found tthem now17:00
jussihrm, maybe not17:03
shadeslayerlex79: poke17:29
lex79Riddell: did you fix the update settings in kpk? it's still visible17:29
lex79shadeslayer: pongo17:29
shadeslayerlex79: can you look at the koffice package in ninja ppa after im done uploading it17:29
shadeslayerjust needs a bit of a review 17:30
lex79ok I will do after dinner17:30
shadeslayersure :)17:30
ScottKnixternal: You need to disable the functionality checks to get compositing on login.17:43
ScottKlucidfox: You should talk to markey, Nightrose, and apachelogger about sound menu.  IIRC there was a strong consensus it was desired, just no one got the work done.18:01
ScottKlucidfox: Also the Quassel hidden chat thing is a bug.18:01
markeyI kinda lost track of that discussion18:01
ScottKI'm sure Sput wouldn't mind having a patch ....18:01
lucidfoxyes, the Quassel developers told me about that bug18:03
lucidfoxor rathe,r they told me that it was a bug18:03
markeyspeaking of bugs... rumor has it, the KIO audiocd slave does not work in Maverick18:05
markeybreaking Amarok's CD playing functionality18:05
shadeslayermarkey: its not a rumour :P18:05
shadeslayer*rumor18:05
markey:p18:05
ScottKshadeslayer: Where's your patch?18:05
shadeslayerScottK: patch for?18:06
shadeslayerah kio thingy?18:06
ScottKshadeslayer: Fixing the KIO audiocd slave18:06
ScottKYes.18:06
shadeslayeri said i was looking at the patches in our kdebase-* that might have broken it18:06
shadeslayersince it works in Suse18:07
danttiis cleanlooks the default theme in kubuntu 10.10?18:07
shadeslayerdantti: no18:07
ScottKIt's still Ethais isn't it?18:07
shadeslayerits still oxygen18:07
danttioh thanks God :P18:07
shadeslayerer.. plasma theme? or style?18:07
dantticause kpk does not work with any other style other than oxygen18:08
danttiwell it works, but has several rendering issues18:08
shadeslayer:P18:08
shadeslayerimo oxygen is good enough ...18:08
danttime too, I just think that there should be a more lightweight version of it18:09
danttiwithou gradients an all the stuff slow machines don't like18:09
shadeslayeri want a black version of oxygen :P18:09
apacheloggerScottK, lucidfox: actually the implementation itself is also unclear since the plasma team seemed in favor of extending the statusnotifier spec to match what is required by a soundmenu18:11
apacheloggerbut as markey said, dicussion of that sort of went nowhere, well, if you would want to call it discussion18:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: wish me luck for tmmrw! :P18:12
apacheloggershadeslayer: good luck for tomorrow18:12
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shadeslayernight everyone18:34
ScottKRiddell: We could build KDE several times on Sunday if needed: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2010/10/try-ubuntu-server-in-cloud-on-our-dime.html18:36
MamarokRiddell: does planetkde have encoding problems? Ivan's name shows with weird characters, shouldn't it use UTF?18:40
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1183531 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs) Fix compile with QT_NO_CAST_FROM_ASCII and throw a few string optimizations in while we're at it.18:40
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1183533 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (3 files in 3 dirs) Minor string optimization by using QLatin1Literal as QStringBuilder arguments18:48
neversfeldewho created the countdown for kubuntu.org? And where can we get it for kubuntu-de.org19:15
neversfeldemhh, I guess I really need access to launchpad, I never see ofirk online here, probably we are in a different timezone19:16
neversfeldethe "local language" links on kubuntu.org are still broken19:17
neversfeldelex79: around?19:17
neversfeldelex79: do you know someone from the italian team, who can post a bug report about it? http://www.kubuntu.org/support/italiano19:18
neversfeldenot enough manpower in Germany these days to get it managed19:19
steveire_Is the doxygen-gui package gone from 9.10?20:16
lex79neversfelde: which "italian team" you mean? translation?20:52
neversfeldelex79: there is an italian kubuntu Loco, or not?21:03
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ScottKHow goes testing?21:42
lex79dantti_note: update settings (weekly issue) is still visible in kpk....21:42
RiddellScottK: we have new images21:42
Riddelland they need testin21:42
ScottKRiddell: I've been out of it for the last three days.  I'll see if I can manage something.21:43
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: what to do for Natty? http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty | SRUs http://goo.gl/iDJ6 | test final candiates images http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all
Riddelltsk21:43
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: what to do for Natty? http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty | SRUs http://goo.gl/iDJ6 | test final candidate images http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all
nigelbha21:47
tsdgeosanyone using 10.10 can check if okular crashes with http://www.adobe.com/es/products/psprelements/pdf/pepe_overview.pdf ?21:58
Riddelltsdgeos: no crash here22:00
Riddellloads up fine22:00
tsdgeosweird22:00
tsdgeoswhat if you go to http://www.adobe.com/es/products/psprelements/features/?view=topnew22:01
tsdgeosand then click on the link?22:01
tsdgeoswith rekonq22:01
tsdgeossomeone claims it crashes in bugs.k.o22:01
Riddelltsdgeos: also loads fine in rekonq22:01
tsdgeosok22:01
tsdgeostx22:01
gp[8]tsdgeos: also here no crash22:15
tsdgeosok, tx22:17
tsdgeosi've asked the dude to try more things22:17
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dantti_notelex79: this should fix it http://pastebin.com/7vYnj1US22:39
* dantti_note is mad with last minute change to nvidia-beta drivers, can't get composite working :/22:41
Riddelldantti_note: but that will still duplicate what we already do at the apt level23:16
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