[00:00] jussi, do you have regular flash-plugin-nonfree [00:00] or 64-bit? [00:00] since I have regular, I'm about to dump that again, and try 64-bit again [00:07] restarting KDE, just in case that makes a diff..... [00:18] no joy [01:48] * freeflying [03:54] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183343 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Add an installedCount() function that is faster than using the packageCount() overload function that takes a package state flag. [03:59] [muon] jmthomas * 1183344 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/StatusWidget.cpp Use the new QApt::Backend::installedCount() function in the StatusWidget. Reduces the amount of somewhat expensive QApt::Package::state() calls by the number of available packages. (32,000 on my system) [04:02] hey, kopete, when i click the 'x' to close/hide it, how the hell do you reopen it? clicking on kopete in the message indicator doesn't do a damn thing [04:05] nixternal: Should be in the regular kickoff if nothing else, but I did manage to get it restarted through the MI. Don't recall how though. [04:05] well hell, now it works [04:05] grrrr [04:05] maybe it just needed a restart [04:05] anyone else a fan of the icons in the system tray? [04:06] s/a fan/not a fan/ [04:08] I like klipper, battery, wifi, kmail and konversation [04:08] all others can gtho [04:09] and if kmail and konversation could minimize to the message indicator without quitting I'd use the message indicator and give those two the boot [04:11] ScottK: mav compositing isn't working like it should on my netbook either. grr baby grr. i have to re-enable it every time [04:58] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183350 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) (log message trimmed) [04:58] Add more efficient toInstallCount() and toRemoveCount() functions to Backend. [04:58] These both just grab int's already cached in memory by APT, meaning that we [04:59] [muon] jmthomas * 1183351 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/StatusWidget.cpp Use the new, more efficient QApt::Backend::toInstallCount and toRemoveCount functions to help improve responsiveness when marking packages. [05:07] [muon] jmthomas * 1183352 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationModel/ApplicationDelegate.cpp Use isInstalled rather that calling state() and &'ing it with the Installed state flag [06:19] hi nixternal [06:20] JontheEchidna: use lionmail? [06:23] valorie: do you have ati? /me tries to work out what this issue could be... [09:21] hm, it is currently impossible to play a CD with Amarok, works in other distros. Also the Device notifier doesn't list Amarok. [09:21] Not good :( [09:24] steveire: how about taking grantlee to the web? ;) ... I was thinking about abusing Qt&Grantlee for a sort of CMS project I need to do for university ;) [09:36] and here comes another Maverick problem: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=84307&p=172526#p172526 [09:43] and here comes the bug report for the iPod Touch/iPhone problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/655908 [09:43] Launchpad bug 655908 in amarok (Ubuntu) "iphone zero tracks in amarok" [Undecided,New] [09:48] apachelogger: Go for it. What's the idea? [10:09] steveire: have a Qt HTTP server to take care of url parsing and provide requested content as (X)HTML pages, those being created using grantlee and data from a database [10:17] apachelogger: Makes sense to me. [10:17] Sounds like you'd be re-creating the rest of Django [10:22] steveire: yeah ^^ [10:22] Riddell: nearly done, i just need to sort the install files ... theyre not arranged alphabetically [10:24] shadeslayer: "sort" is your friend [10:24] yeah... ill be making a script to sort my install files and use that === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: what to do for Natty? http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty | SRUs http://goo.gl/iDJ6 [10:35] jussi, yes, ati [10:36] valorie: ok, perhaps thats a factor then? [10:41] sigh... [10:41] tried installing the fglrx and got: SystemError: installArchives() failed [10:42] hmm, I'm trying to think of how [10:42] but what do I know about graphics cards and/or drivers [10:43] hrm, now I got to remember how I fixed this last time [10:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/507898/ [10:44] you had this before? [10:45] weird [10:45] the only problem I've had with this card is a little line of dots sort of off-center on the screen [10:45] not there in Windows [10:45] disappeared in Lucid [10:46] not really noticeable unless there was a dark screen [10:46] Ive had lots of evilness with this card :( [10:46] +++ [10:46] this is the worst [10:47] do you have silence in youtube also, or just the 2x speed? [10:47] silence also. [10:48] when troubleshooting a year or more back, I recall my son installing fglrx [10:48] but I didn't have to do anything special after a clean, new install of lucid [10:50] a clea reinstall takes me alot of time, because this machine has loads of data on it [10:55] well, I didn't want to do that this time around either [10:56] it feels like UDS is getting close, and I have so much to do before then [10:56] are you coming to UDS? [10:56] thinking about getting a netbook and leaving this big laptop at home [10:56] yes, I got word of my sponsorship late last week [10:56] ooh nice [10:57] still dont have final word on my airline tickets [10:57] yeah, I never thought I would make the cut [10:57] jussi: use a separate partition for data, then a clean install is done in no time [10:57] I have a friend down in Orlando I haven't seen for years [10:58] so it's going to be double-fun [10:58] Mamarok: that made the install so much easier last time [10:58] /dev/sda5 48G 15G 31G 33% /home [10:58] ;) [11:01] Oh dammit, I forgot to grab my passport and confirm my tix. [11:01] tix? :P [11:02] jussi: well, how is doing a clean isntall a problem then? takes 18 minutes here [11:02] I only move the old $HOME/.kde/ and then copy back selectively what I need from the previous settings [11:03] 18 minutes? [11:03] wow, we should have a speed contest sometime [11:03] lol [11:04] awesome : http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/10/the-300-quadrocopter-your-iphone-is-a-remote-control.ars [11:05] Mamarok: should take less now, since the installation starts earlier and you can enter the details alonside the install [11:05] valorie: watch the vid on that page in our superfast... its quite funny [11:05] ulysses: i saw you were updating the hungarian translation [11:06] al: yes, I'm working on it [11:06] ulysses: thanks for that, but why are you starting from a completely new one? [11:06] it was already at 50something percent [11:06] shadeslayer: btw, did you see my previous lines? No way to pay a CD with Amarok in Maverick, it doesn't show up in hte Device Notifier, and there seems to be a problem with the KIOslave, works with OpenSuSE [11:06] al: because the old one was completely wrong, typos, wrong spelling [11:06] play* [11:06] ulysses: oh, ok, never mind then [11:06] thanks again [11:07] hmm [11:07] Mamarok: tried with 4.5.2 ? [11:07] freaky in double-speed! [11:07] crashes when I try to add to the playlist, Dr. Konqi doesn't start, I will try again with gdb [11:07] shadeslayer: §I have KDE 4.5.2 [11:07] oh.. [11:07] same problem as 4.5. [11:07] 4.5.1* [11:07] maybe from one of our patches? [11:10] nighters all -- ping me if you find a fix, jussi, and I'll test [11:10] k [11:10] good night valorie [11:10] have a great day! [11:12] * shadeslayer feels a bit weird saying good night... its 4 PM here [11:46] someone point me to the current maverick ISO? [11:47] cdimage is confusing sometimes [11:48] jussi: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ knows [11:54] Riddell: thank you! [12:05] raster ftw! [12:16] indeed. [12:21] apachelogger: how do you switch to raster? plasma-desktop --graphicssystem raster ? [12:58] shadeslayer: did you go a patch for rupee support? I opened bug 656196 [12:58] Launchpad bug 656196 in kdebase-runtime (Ubuntu) "add rupee symbol" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656196 [12:58] yeah i saw it, i have a question tho, hold on [12:59] http://pastebin.com/J5Br5TVu :: does CurrencyUnitSymbolDefault=Rs. need to be changed too? [13:00] line 69 :) [13:01] shadeslayer: yes, both CurrencyUnitSymbolDefault=Rs. and CurrencyUnitSymbolUnambiguous=Rs. [13:01] alright [13:13] apachelogger: nope, I use kmail [13:16] Riddell: http://pastebin.com/dRCUvet0 [13:18] do i commit to bzr? [13:21] oh wait [13:21] doh... didnt close bug -.- [13:24] Riddell: updated debdiff attached to bug [13:24] groovy [13:29] btw can LP do this : you commit the fix for a bug in a bzr branch and that branch is linked to the bug, the bug status changes to fix committed... [13:31] yes I think so [13:31] --lpbug on your bzr commit or something similar [13:32] Riddell: shadeslayer --fixes lp:123456 [13:32] ah ok [13:32] * agateau is helping people with bzr, hell is about to freeze [13:33] hehe [13:33] bzr help bugs has a whole load of info :P [13:33] agateau: btw is qtdbusmenu broken in svn/git ? [13:34] shadeslayer: not that I know of [13:34] because in project neon we had : Could NOT find DBusMenuQt: Found version "..", but required is at least [13:34] kdebase couldnt find qtdbusmenu [13:35] shadeslayer: oh ok, this should be fixed by now [13:35] ok then :) [13:35] ill request a new build of qtdbusmenu then ... [13:41] shadeslayer: you need an update of kdelibs actually [13:41] oh.. ok [13:42] shadeslayer: because the fix is in FindDBusMenuQt.cmake in kdelibs [13:42] ah [13:42] have you seen http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/ [13:43] that was on CNN today... apparently FF+chrome+safari now have 50% browser share :D [13:43] IE has the other 50% [13:51] VIM - Vi IMproved 7.2 (2008 Aug 9, compiled Sep 28 2010 11:01:12) [13:51] bleh [13:51] no 7.3 in Maverick? :) [13:54] markey: nah, we only care about nano [13:54] * Tm_T hides [13:55] * markey laughs hysterically [13:57] I actually use nano to edit wiki pages quite often these days [13:59] hmm... visa interview tomorrow, i should really start preparing something [14:03] Riddell: btw Mamarok reported that you cant play CD's with amarok on KDE 4.5.1 with maverick [14:03] same with 4.5.2 [14:03] hmm, does the KIO slave work? [14:03] we use that [14:03] markey: thats the main issue i think [14:04] shadeslayer: btw, did you see my previous lines? No way to pay a CD with Amarok in Maverick, it doesn't show up in hte Device Notifier, and there seems to be a problem with the KIOslave, works with OpenSuSE [14:04] not good, hm [14:04] KIOslave is in.... kdelibs? [14:05] maybe in kdebase/workspace [14:05] or so [14:05] not sure [14:05] looking at both.. might be one of our patches [14:12] [muon] jmthomas * 1183456 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (Application.cpp Application.h ApplicationWindow.cpp) (log message trimmed) [14:12] -Add a new validity boolean member to the Application class that is set to false [14:12] in the event of parsing failure. (e.g. the .directory files in the [14:13] [muon] jmthomas * 1183457 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/Application.cpp Use package() instead of m_package as a fallback in Application::name() too. (Forgot to save in Kate) [14:14] Mamarok: so anyway, if the KIO audiocd slave doesn't work in Kubuntu, it can't work in Amarok either [14:17] [muon] jmthomas * 1183458 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/Application.cpp Sometimes the GenericName field is used for the Application description rather than the standard Comment field. Use it as a fallback. [14:20] [muon] jmthomas * 1183460 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/Application.cpp Less casting from ascii [15:42] Riddell: for some reason kchart/pics folder isnt being picked up by cmake [15:43] i.e B10List-missing doesnt show those files as missing, and i had to comment out those files from install files as they were causing FTBFS [15:47] is the files don't exist any more they will need to be removed from the .install files [15:47] they won't show up in --list-missing, that's the opposite, files that need added to .install files [15:48] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183487 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (package.cpp package.h) (log message trimmed) [15:48] Add a more efficient latin1Section function. Since QLatin1String returns an [15:48] empty string when it encounters null char pointers, we can use latin1Section() [15:50] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183488 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp s/QMap/QHash for instantly faster lookups. (We don't care the order our pairs are stored in) Also, use QLatin1String for more no-cast-from-ascii support [15:53] Riddell: the issue is that those files exsisit [15:53] *exsist [15:53] but they are not getting installed/compiled [15:53] they've been removed from the build system [15:53] so end result for us is they don't exist [15:54] uh... how/why? [15:54] you can dig into CMakeLists.txt files if you want but for the most part we can assume upstream know what they're doing [15:54] theres no rule for that i think [15:54] the CMakeLists.txt says addsubdirectory( pics ) [15:55] http://pastebin.com/BeynPFLg [15:56] ahh ohh [15:56] i think im missing a dep [15:58] http://pastebin.com/AknDmA63 [15:58] kchart isnt listed there [15:58] JontheEchidna: I think you meant to reply to dasKreech not me? [15:59] openjpeg is troublesome, we can't have that [15:59] yeah [15:59] shadeslayer: yes [15:59] apachelogger: yes to what? :D [15:59] for plasma-netbook you can actually do it via the config too [15:59] apachelogger: oh, yeah... [15:59] shadeslayer: ad how to use raster [15:59] littlecms isn't anything new, there's probably a good reason why we don't have that [15:59] oh ok [15:59] DCMTK sounds new though [15:59] libdcmtk1-dev [15:59] thats in main [15:59] handy [15:59] no wait.. universe [15:59] liblcms1-dev is in main [16:00] well universe is fine for this [16:00] hmm.. liblcms1-dev is in build deps but not fould [16:00] *found [16:00] then you have to dig deeper [16:00] is it a wrong version [16:00] what is the cmake test looking for and what's it not getting [16:02] ah [16:02] we have 1.18 [16:02] !info liblcms1-dev maverick [16:02] liblcms1-dev (source: lcms): Color management library (Development headers). In component main, is optional. Version 1.18.dfsg-1ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 190 kB, installed size 512 kB [16:03] needs 2.0 [16:03] that'll be it then [16:03] so ignore that for now, we can sort it in natty [16:03] right [16:03] but what about cmake saying kchart wont be build [16:03] lines 17-25 [16:04] http://pastebin.com/bv5c1zET :: entire build till now [16:04] i canceled it for the time being [16:05] nothing about kchart there [16:05] I think kchart isn't ment to be built anyway [16:08] hmm... well [16:08] should i remove that from control file then? [16:08] or just leave it? ... since the binary is built [16:08] but it doesnt pick up the icons and stuff [16:16] Riddell: leave it as such? [16:17] i.e comment out the files which are not getting picked up? [16:18] right, I found a few errors in the ubiquity slideshow wording today, where should I go to change them? [16:20] IIRC theres a bzr branch for that [16:20] jussi: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk [16:21] so : bzr pull that, bzr push to your own account and ask for mergery [16:21] or if you have access just bzr push to same branch :) [16:51] shadeslayer: I did bzr branch lp:ubiquity [16:51] do I now then go change whatever directly? then push back to my LP? [16:52] jussi: yes, change -> bzr commit [16:52] and then bzr push foo [16:52] right, thanks! [16:52] now I just got to actually fix it [16:53] oh and if it fixes bugs, use --fixes lp: : along with bzr commit [16:55] Riddell: im uploading to ninjas, with my changes [16:59] shadeslayer: nah, no bugs afaik. [16:59] I just got to find where the slideshow slides are now [17:00] ahh, think Ive found tthem now [17:03] hrm, maybe not [17:29] lex79: poke [17:29] Riddell: did you fix the update settings in kpk? it's still visible [17:29] shadeslayer: pongo [17:29] lex79: can you look at the koffice package in ninja ppa after im done uploading it [17:30] just needs a bit of a review [17:30] ok I will do after dinner [17:30] sure :) [17:43] nixternal: You need to disable the functionality checks to get compositing on login. [18:01] lucidfox: You should talk to markey, Nightrose, and apachelogger about sound menu. IIRC there was a strong consensus it was desired, just no one got the work done. [18:01] lucidfox: Also the Quassel hidden chat thing is a bug. [18:01] I kinda lost track of that discussion [18:01] I'm sure Sput wouldn't mind having a patch .... [18:03] yes, the Quassel developers told me about that bug [18:03] or rathe,r they told me that it was a bug [18:05] speaking of bugs... rumor has it, the KIO audiocd slave does not work in Maverick [18:05] breaking Amarok's CD playing functionality [18:05] markey: its not a rumour :P [18:05] *rumor [18:05] :p [18:05] shadeslayer: Where's your patch? [18:06] ScottK: patch for? [18:06] ah kio thingy? [18:06] shadeslayer: Fixing the KIO audiocd slave [18:06] Yes. [18:06] i said i was looking at the patches in our kdebase-* that might have broken it [18:07] since it works in Suse [18:07] is cleanlooks the default theme in kubuntu 10.10? [18:07] dantti: no [18:07] It's still Ethais isn't it? [18:07] its still oxygen [18:07] oh thanks God :P [18:07] er.. plasma theme? or style? [18:08] cause kpk does not work with any other style other than oxygen [18:08] well it works, but has several rendering issues [18:08] :P [18:08] imo oxygen is good enough ... [18:09] me too, I just think that there should be a more lightweight version of it [18:09] withou gradients an all the stuff slow machines don't like [18:09] i want a black version of oxygen :P [18:11] ScottK, lucidfox: actually the implementation itself is also unclear since the plasma team seemed in favor of extending the statusnotifier spec to match what is required by a soundmenu [18:12] but as markey said, dicussion of that sort of went nowhere, well, if you would want to call it discussion [18:12] apachelogger: wish me luck for tmmrw! :P [18:12] shadeslayer: good luck for tomorrow === automatical_ is now known as automatical [18:34] night everyone [18:36] Riddell: We could build KDE several times on Sunday if needed: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2010/10/try-ubuntu-server-in-cloud-on-our-dime.html [18:40] Riddell: does planetkde have encoding problems? Ivan's name shows with weird characters, shouldn't it use UTF? [18:40] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183531 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs) Fix compile with QT_NO_CAST_FROM_ASCII and throw a few string optimizations in while we're at it. [18:48] [muon] jmthomas * 1183533 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (3 files in 3 dirs) Minor string optimization by using QLatin1Literal as QStringBuilder arguments [19:15] who created the countdown for kubuntu.org? And where can we get it for kubuntu-de.org [19:16] mhh, I guess I really need access to launchpad, I never see ofirk online here, probably we are in a different timezone [19:17] the "local language" links on kubuntu.org are still broken [19:17] lex79: around? [19:18] lex79: do you know someone from the italian team, who can post a bug report about it? http://www.kubuntu.org/support/italiano [19:19] not enough manpower in Germany these days to get it managed [20:16] Is the doxygen-gui package gone from 9.10? [20:52] neversfelde: which "italian team" you mean? translation? [21:03] lex79: there is an italian kubuntu Loco, or not? === ferai is now known as fejjerai === lubyou_ is now known as lubyou === hunger____ is now known as hunger [21:42] How goes testing? [21:42] dantti_note: update settings (weekly issue) is still visible in kpk.... [21:42] ScottK: we have new images [21:42] and they need testin [21:43] Riddell: I've been out of it for the last three days. I'll see if I can manage something. === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: what to do for Natty? http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty | SRUs http://goo.gl/iDJ6 | test final candiates images http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all [21:43] tsk === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: what to do for Natty? http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty | SRUs http://goo.gl/iDJ6 | test final candidate images http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all [21:47] ha [21:58] anyone using 10.10 can check if okular crashes with http://www.adobe.com/es/products/psprelements/pdf/pepe_overview.pdf ? [22:00] tsdgeos: no crash here [22:00] loads up fine [22:00] weird [22:01] what if you go to http://www.adobe.com/es/products/psprelements/features/?view=topnew [22:01] and then click on the link? [22:01] with rekonq [22:01] someone claims it crashes in bugs.k.o [22:01] tsdgeos: also loads fine in rekonq [22:01] ok [22:01] tx [22:15] tsdgeos: also here no crash [22:17] ok, tx [22:17] i've asked the dude to try more things === automatical_ is now known as automatical [22:39] lex79: this should fix it http://pastebin.com/7vYnj1US [22:41] * dantti_note is mad with last minute change to nvidia-beta drivers, can't get composite working :/ [23:16] dantti_note: but that will still duplicate what we already do at the apt level === lool- is now known as lool