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| bac | lifeless: meeting ping | 01:02 |
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| bac | StevenK: ^^ | 01:03 |
| poolie | hi bac | 01:03 |
| bac | wallyworld: ^^ | 01:03 |
| bac | morning poolie | 01:03 |
| wallyworld | ack | 01:03 |
| bac | wallyworld: you,of course don't have to come, but you're welcome | 01:03 |
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| tgm4883 | Is there some setting that will make it so only members of our bug team can change the status on bugs? | 07:02 |
| wgrant | tgm4883: Certain statuses are restricted (Won't Fix, Triaged and Opinion are the current ones, IIRC), but it's not configurable at the moment. | 07:08 |
| tgm4883 | hmm | 07:09 |
| tgm4883 | thats no deal | 07:09 |
| tgm4883 | I'm not a fan of users changing status of a bug all willy nilly | 07:09 |
| wgrant | It's rare that a user does. | 07:10 |
| tgm4883 | yea it is | 07:12 |
| tgm4883 | mostly I see it when a user takes it from incomplete back to new | 07:13 |
| tgm4883 | which is not what we want. It isn't new anymore if a dev is working on it | 07:13 |
| wgrant | Why would it be Incomplete if a dev is on it? | 07:13 |
| wgrant | Incomplete means it's waiting on info from the user. | 07:14 |
| tgm4883 | in a lot of smaller projects. Bug team and dev team overlap | 07:14 |
| tgm4883 | in either case, it isn't new | 07:14 |
| tgm4883 | and the bug team (or dev in some cases) should be the one to decide if it isn't Incomplete anymore, not the user | 07:15 |
| tgm4883 | I've also seen it go from "Fix released" to new/confirmed before | 07:16 |
| tgm4883 | from a user | 07:16 |
| tgm4883 | which again, IMO is bad | 07:17 |
| wgrant | There is a discussion going on about preventing users from unfixing bugs. | 07:18 |
| wgrant | But I find it's more effective to just chastise users when they do that. They only do it once! | 07:18 |
| tgm4883 | well I wouldn't say it's more effective | 07:19 |
| tgm4883 | it may be effective, but it's still annoying. | 07:19 |
| tgm4883 | but if thats the only way, then I guess we will make it work | 07:19 |
| tgm4883 | thanks for the info wgrant | 07:19 |
| wgrant | It's also annoying when users are prevented from performing legitimate actions. | 07:19 |
| wgrant | It's a bit of an imperfect balancing act. | 07:19 |
| tgm4883 | perhaps | 07:20 |
| tgm4883 | ideally it would be configurable at the project level | 07:20 |
| tgm4883 | but I don't think for most cases those would be considered legitimate actions for the user | 07:20 |
| tgm4883 | if the user wants to set status and priority, it sounds like they are fixing the bug themselves and have commit access | 07:21 |
| wgrant | One can fix bugs without commit access. | 07:21 |
| tgm4883 | wgrant, true, but they can't commit it :) | 07:22 |
| tgm4883 | who is to say the project would A) accept the patch, or B) decide the bug was worth fixing | 07:22 |
| spiv | I think many projects are comfortable with "wiki-like" access to those fields: so long as bad changes are easy to revert, there's little harm in allowing broad access. | 07:23 |
| spiv | And some benefit. | 07:23 |
| tgm4883 | spiv, I agree. Which is why I asked if it was configurable | 07:23 |
| spiv | *nod* | 07:24 |
| tgm4883 | anyway, we will do what we can with the way it is. Thanks for the info. Night | 07:25 |
| spiv | G'night. | 07:25 |
| bac | spiv i'll be happy to land your branch | 07:42 |
| spiv | bac: thanks! | 07:43 |
| bac | np | 07:43 |
| fta | danilos, hi, please let me know when i can update my translations | 08:30 |
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| noodles775 | mrevell: ^^ that's correct right? | 09:14 |
| mrevell | noodles775: I've just checked and it appears LP is offline, rather than read-only, atm. It's due to be back online around now. mthaddon are you too busy doing it to confirm? | 09:15 |
| mthaddon | mrevell: should be back now? | 09:15 |
| mrevell | Yep, thanks mthaddon. | 09:15 |
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| mrevell | Thanks noodles775 | 09:16 |
| noodles775 | mrevell, mthaddon : I still can't push to codehosting. | 09:16 |
| mthaddon | yeah, working on it | 09:16 |
| mthaddon | hmm, service check says it's up | 09:16 |
| mthaddon | noodles775: still can't push? | 09:18 |
| noodles775 | mthaddon: nope, bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist. | 09:18 |
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| savvas0 | is launchpad code down? OOPS-ID OOPS-1741CB386 | 09:25 |
| ubot5 | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=ID | 09:25 |
| ubot5 | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1741CB386 | 09:25 |
| savvas0 | neither bzr pull nor http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~surl/surl/trunk/files work | 09:26 |
| noodles775 | savvas0: yes, the admins are working te get codehosting back up now (see topic) | 09:26 |
| savvas0 | oh, oops :) | 09:26 |
| savvas0 | thank you | 09:26 |
| eLBati | ciao | 09:34 |
| mthaddon | noodles775: can you confirm codehosting is now back? | 09:40 |
| noodles775 | mthaddon: indeed, pushing happily now. Thanks! | 09:41 |
| mthaddon | sorry for the delay | 09:41 |
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| eLBati | ant problem with bzr? | 09:44 |
| eLBati | *any | 09:44 |
| noodles775 | eLBati: there was up until a few minutes ago, but codehosting should be back now? | 09:45 |
| eLBati | noodles775, uhm http://pastebin.com/Ww3VSjVk | 09:50 |
| noodles775 | mthaddon: ^^ (also, I got the following trying to test a branch on ec2 https://pastebin.canonical.com/38292/ ) | 09:53 |
| spiv | eLBati: works for me | 09:53 |
| mthaddon | noodles775: that looks like problem with your ec2 instance | 09:54 |
| spiv | eLBati: I notice you didn't specify a username on that command line | 09:54 |
| spiv | eLBati: have you set your .ssh/config to use your Launchpad nick when connecting to bazaar.launchpad.net? Or does you local username match your Launchpad nick? | 09:55 |
| eLBati | spiv, my local username matches lp-login | 09:56 |
| eLBati | my public key worked till one hour ago | 09:56 |
| spiv | eLBati: what's your lp username? | 09:57 |
| eLBati | elbati | 09:57 |
| spiv | Hmm, your debug log's does mention the same key you have on your account... | 09:59 |
| spiv | But it also has this line: | 09:59 |
| spiv | # | 09:59 |
| spiv | Agent admitted failure to sign using the key. | 09:59 |
| spiv | Which I don't see when I connect; perhaps there's an issue with your local ssh-agent? | 09:59 |
| spiv | Otherwise I'm out of ideas, given that your username and key apparently match. | 10:00 |
| spiv | (And that the service is working fine for me) | 10:00 |
| eLBati | spiv, I guess more probably an issue with bzr service since it did not work little time ago | 10:02 |
| eLBati | did lp change something? | 10:03 |
| spiv | eLBati: I agree that's suspicious | 10:03 |
| spiv | But it was pretty mundane DB maintenance AFAIK | 10:03 |
| spiv | I'd certainly be surprised if it changed how codehosting auth worked. | 10:03 |
| spiv | (Which DB-wise is very simple: there's a SSHKey table, basically) | 10:04 |
| maxb_ | In my experience "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key." either means 'gnome-keyring-daemon sucks, you should use ssh-agent instead' or 'Your agent was set up to require interactive confirmation of key usage, and that didn't/couldn't happen' | 10:04 |
| spiv | And the codehosting service just queries that, and clearly it still can because I can still auth to it, and noodles775 said a short while ago that it's working for him too. | 10:05 |
| eLBati | maxb_, you could be right | 10:05 |
| spiv | And the error about the agent is highly suggestive of a local issue. | 10:05 |
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| spiv | Also, there aren't hordes of people in here complaining that codehosting is still down :) | 10:05 |
| eLBati | spiv, you re right too :-) | 10:06 |
| eLBati | somehow, my gnome-keyring-daemon slept | 10:17 |
| eLBati | after first fail due to lp issue | 10:17 |
| eLBati | thanks spiv maxb | 10:18 |
| eLBati | now it works | 10:18 |
| spiv | eLBati: you're welcome | 10:18 |
| fta | danilos, (re) hi, please let me know when/if i can update my chromium translations | 10:39 |
| danilos | fta, right, you can do that now: just doing "one time import" from the sync settings page should be sufficient now | 10:41 |
| danilos | anyway, brb | 10:41 |
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| fta | danilos, i wonder if i should split my notes in two. i put various info in there, but only one part is useful to the translators, the other part is mostly useful for me to convert back to the original xml format | 11:36 |
| fta | seems the lp auth is somehow broken with chromium. it keeps saying i must login to edit a bug, i do, accept the form and back in the bug, i'm still signed-off, if it retry, it works, but only for a while | 11:40 |
| fta | uh?? where's the post comment button??? http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/lp-no-post-comment-button.png | 12:14 |
| wgrant | fta: Hm, all the icons seem to be missing too. | 12:20 |
| fta | wgrant, chromium daily | 12:21 |
| fta | hm, a restart worked. weird | 12:23 |
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| bsaibes | I am looking at whether Launchpad provides any resource load-balancing, estimating, etc... I am trying to figure out how to check whether a particular developer is assigned too much work to handle, can Launchpad help in that area (I am thinking Blueprint mostly) | 15:58 |
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| salgado | bsaibes, I don't think so, but you could check the list of bugs/blueprints that are inprogress for any given user through the "All assigned blueprints" and "All bugs in progress" links on their profile page | 16:29 |
| bsaibes | Ok - that is a start, I can check there - would I have access to check others' profile? | 16:31 |
| salgado | yeah, definitely! | 16:31 |
| salgado | bsaibes, https://edge.launchpad.net/~james-w for instance | 16:31 |
| bsaibes | now related question - does blue print allow me to assign sizing to a Work Item? | 16:32 |
| salgado | bsaibes, that's not really a Launchpad question as it has no idea about work items -- we just abuse the blueprints' whiteboard to list the work items which are them parsed by an external tool | 16:33 |
| salgado | bsaibes, that was just to say that if we extend that external tool, we can then include the sizing info along with the work items | 16:34 |
| salgado | but that's a question for Jamie Bennett. :) | 16:35 |
| bsaibes | yes that need to be looked at then see whether we can abuse the Whiteboard further | 16:35 |
| james_w | bsaibes, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/~linaro-toolchain-wg/+specworkload | 16:35 |
| bsaibes | James_w, thx this link looks promising, let me check it out | 16:36 |
| james_w | that's a start, but the work item tracker is probably better for that, and it doesn't show bugs | 16:36 |
| salgado | james_w, wow, that's new to me. quite interesting | 16:36 |
| james_w | (view any person team, go to blueprints and select "Workload" on the right) | 16:37 |
| bsaibes | james_w, I am working with Michael H. to address this issue, Michael has created this list for the Toolchain team now we need the sizing and check how to load balance the assignment | 16:38 |
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| bsaibes | Salagado, so maybe we need to expand on the Work Item convention in the whiteboard to add a sizing to each Work Item, then creare a tool to check the load for each developer | 16:40 |
| james_w | I believe that's already in progress | 16:41 |
| bsaibes | James_w, who is handling this? | 16:42 |
| james_w | I don't know the status though, talk to JamieBennett | 16:42 |
| bsaibes | James_w, ok will do there a release meeting in few minutes, will ask there | 16:43 |
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| tcole | therve: hi, so one question I have is where the appropriate place in an app lifecycle is to install a storm tracer | 19:19 |
| tcole | er, wrong window | 19:19 |
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| michaelh1 | mwhudson: syn... | 21:13 |
| mwhudson | michaelh1: hello | 21:13 |
| michaelh1 | mwhudson: right, so he was ~rsandiford. | 21:14 |
| michaelh1 | Hang on, this is too long to type.. Skype/Mumble? | 21:14 |
| mwhudson | michaelh1: in a few minutes? i'm in a cafe, but won't be for much longer | 21:14 |
| michaelh1 | mwhudson: there's no rush. Any time today is fine. Ping me when you're available | 21:15 |
| mwhudson | michaelh1: okidoke | 21:15 |
| mwhudson | uh | 21:48 |
| mwhudson | login.launchpad.net does not seem very happy? | 21:48 |
| mwhudson | oh, it was probably the login for prod, log in for edge problem | 21:49 |
| ilap | Hi, I deleted a package in my PPA because the build was not successful (some issue in the control file). After that I was trying to upload the modified package to PPA but it's always rejected /w the following err msg: "but uploaded version has different contents". So, why I can not upload a packeg to a PPA if that package is already deleted from that PPA? Is there any way to get it work or I need to create a new PPA and upload that | 22:21 |
| mwhudson | ilap: yes, change the version | 22:21 |
| jonrafkind | something I dont get about that, if a package fails to build then its taking up space in launchpad, right? why doesnt the option exist to completely erase a version that didnt build at all? | 22:22 |
| ilap | Ta, I was thinking of this, but I did not want it as what if an other dependency issue appears? | 22:23 |
| ilap | So, there is no any way to completely erase a PPA and package. | 22:24 |
| mwhudson | that's just debian for you, really | 22:24 |
| ilap | and -> and/or | 22:24 |
| mwhudson | ilap: then you upload again | 22:24 |
| micahg | ilap: append a ~ppa1 to the end of the version string | 22:24 |
| mwhudson | ilap: in a package version in debian, in a version number like 1.2-4, the '4' is (at least by strong convention) an indication of the version of the packaging | 22:25 |
| ilap | Thx, but I did not want to change the version in my package due a Build-dependencies issue. So, that's why I thought (was I naive?:)) the delete it and reupload the modified one should be sufficient. Coz, I am not sure that all of the Build depencies are sorted in the control file. | 22:28 |
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| mwhudson | well that's ok | 22:29 |
| mwhudson | it's not like you get bragging rights for having a particular version number | 22:29 |
| ilap | Ok, I see. Ta all. | 22:41 |
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| ilap | As I am a really newbie here in launchpad therefore what do you recommend? Version nr is 0.0.1-0ubuntu1, so shall I modify to this? 0.0.1~1-0ubuntu1? | 22:57 |
| mwhudson | ilap: i go with 0.0.1-0ubuntu2~ppa1 | 22:59 |
| ilap | ta | 22:59 |
| mwhudson | ilap: this will sort after 0.0.1-0ubuntu1, but before 0.0.1-0ubuntu2, and the latter is the smallest a new version that's uploaded to ubuntu would have | 23:00 |
| mwhudson | (i think, not really an expert on this) | 23:01 |
| ilap | mwhudson: not, no expert, I have no clue on this and also this is my 1st pkg in launchpad..:) Thx your help. | 23:03 |
| tgm4883 | ilap, you want to ask in #ubuntu-packaging | 23:08 |
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