=== chx_verybusy is now known as chx === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [01:02] lifeless: meeting ping [01:03] StevenK: ^^ [01:03] hi bac [01:03] wallyworld: ^^ [01:03] morning poolie [01:03] ack [01:03] wallyworld: you,of course don't have to come, but you're welcome === chx is now known as chx_gym === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === zyga is now known as zyga-gone === chx_gym is now known as chx_verybusy === chx_verybusy is now known as chx === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs [07:02] Is there some setting that will make it so only members of our bug team can change the status on bugs? [07:08] tgm4883: Certain statuses are restricted (Won't Fix, Triaged and Opinion are the current ones, IIRC), but it's not configurable at the moment. [07:09] hmm [07:09] thats no deal [07:09] I'm not a fan of users changing status of a bug all willy nilly [07:10] It's rare that a user does. [07:12] yea it is [07:13] mostly I see it when a user takes it from incomplete back to new [07:13] which is not what we want. It isn't new anymore if a dev is working on it [07:13] Why would it be Incomplete if a dev is on it? [07:14] Incomplete means it's waiting on info from the user. [07:14] in a lot of smaller projects. Bug team and dev team overlap [07:14] in either case, it isn't new [07:15] and the bug team (or dev in some cases) should be the one to decide if it isn't Incomplete anymore, not the user [07:16] I've also seen it go from "Fix released" to new/confirmed before [07:16] from a user [07:17] which again, IMO is bad [07:18] There is a discussion going on about preventing users from unfixing bugs. [07:18] But I find it's more effective to just chastise users when they do that. They only do it once! [07:19] well I wouldn't say it's more effective [07:19] it may be effective, but it's still annoying. [07:19] but if thats the only way, then I guess we will make it work [07:19] thanks for the info wgrant [07:19] It's also annoying when users are prevented from performing legitimate actions. [07:19] It's a bit of an imperfect balancing act. [07:20] perhaps [07:20] ideally it would be configurable at the project level [07:20] but I don't think for most cases those would be considered legitimate actions for the user [07:21] if the user wants to set status and priority, it sounds like they are fixing the bug themselves and have commit access [07:21] One can fix bugs without commit access. [07:22] wgrant, true, but they can't commit it :) [07:22] who is to say the project would A) accept the patch, or B) decide the bug was worth fixing [07:23] I think many projects are comfortable with "wiki-like" access to those fields: so long as bad changes are easy to revert, there's little harm in allowing broad access. [07:23] And some benefit. [07:23] spiv, I agree. Which is why I asked if it was configurable [07:24] *nod* [07:25] anyway, we will do what we can with the way it is. Thanks for the info. Night [07:25] G'night. [07:42] spiv i'll be happy to land your branch [07:43] bac: thanks! [07:43] np [08:30] danilos, hi, please let me know when i can update my translations === noodles775 changed the topic of #launchpad to: http://launchpad.net/ : Launchpad is read-only for 15mins | Read https://help.launchpad.net/ for help | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: https://dev.launchpad.net/ [09:14] mrevell: ^^ that's correct right? [09:15] noodles775: I've just checked and it appears LP is offline, rather than read-only, atm. It's due to be back online around now. mthaddon are you too busy doing it to confirm? [09:15] mrevell: should be back now? [09:15] Yep, thanks mthaddon. === mrevell changed the topic of #launchpad to: http://launchpad.net/ | Read https://help.launchpad.net/ for help | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: https://dev.launchpad.net/ [09:16] Thanks noodles775 [09:16] mrevell, mthaddon : I still can't push to codehosting. [09:16] yeah, working on it [09:16] hmm, service check says it's up [09:18] noodles775: still can't push? [09:18] mthaddon: nope, bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist. === mrevell changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Code hosting is offline. | Read https://help.launchpad.net/ for help | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: https://dev.launchpad.net/ [09:25] is launchpad code down? OOPS-ID OOPS-1741CB386 [09:25] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=ID [09:25] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1741CB386 [09:26] neither bzr pull nor http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~surl/surl/trunk/files work [09:26] savvas0: yes, the admins are working te get codehosting back up now (see topic) [09:26] oh, oops :) [09:26] thank you [09:34] ciao [09:40] noodles775: can you confirm codehosting is now back? [09:41] mthaddon: indeed, pushing happily now. Thanks! [09:41] sorry for the delay === noodles775 changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | All services are go. | Read https://help.launchpad.net/ for help | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: https://dev.launchpad.net/ [09:44] ant problem with bzr? [09:44] *any [09:45] eLBati: there was up until a few minutes ago, but codehosting should be back now? [09:50] noodles775, uhm http://pastebin.com/Ww3VSjVk [09:53] mthaddon: ^^ (also, I got the following trying to test a branch on ec2 https://pastebin.canonical.com/38292/ ) [09:53] eLBati: works for me [09:54] noodles775: that looks like problem with your ec2 instance [09:54] eLBati: I notice you didn't specify a username on that command line [09:55] eLBati: have you set your .ssh/config to use your Launchpad nick when connecting to bazaar.launchpad.net? Or does you local username match your Launchpad nick? [09:56] spiv, my local username matches lp-login [09:56] my public key worked till one hour ago [09:57] eLBati: what's your lp username? [09:57] elbati [09:59] Hmm, your debug log's does mention the same key you have on your account... [09:59] But it also has this line: [09:59] # [09:59] Agent admitted failure to sign using the key. [09:59] Which I don't see when I connect; perhaps there's an issue with your local ssh-agent? [10:00] Otherwise I'm out of ideas, given that your username and key apparently match. [10:00] (And that the service is working fine for me) [10:02] spiv, I guess more probably an issue with bzr service since it did not work little time ago [10:03] did lp change something? [10:03] eLBati: I agree that's suspicious [10:03] But it was pretty mundane DB maintenance AFAIK [10:03] I'd certainly be surprised if it changed how codehosting auth worked. [10:04] (Which DB-wise is very simple: there's a SSHKey table, basically) [10:04] In my experience "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key." either means 'gnome-keyring-daemon sucks, you should use ssh-agent instead' or 'Your agent was set up to require interactive confirmation of key usage, and that didn't/couldn't happen' [10:05] And the codehosting service just queries that, and clearly it still can because I can still auth to it, and noodles775 said a short while ago that it's working for him too. [10:05] maxb_, you could be right [10:05] And the error about the agent is highly suggestive of a local issue. === maxb_ is now known as maxb [10:05] Also, there aren't hordes of people in here complaining that codehosting is still down :) [10:06] spiv, you re right too :-) [10:17] somehow, my gnome-keyring-daemon slept [10:17] after first fail due to lp issue [10:18] thanks spiv maxb [10:18] now it works [10:18] eLBati: you're welcome [10:39] danilos, (re) hi, please let me know when/if i can update my chromium translations [10:41] fta, right, you can do that now: just doing "one time import" from the sync settings page should be sufficient now [10:41] anyway, brb === cdbs is now known as bilalakhtar [11:36] danilos, i wonder if i should split my notes in two. i put various info in there, but only one part is useful to the translators, the other part is mostly useful for me to convert back to the original xml format [11:40] seems the lp auth is somehow broken with chromium. it keeps saying i must login to edit a bug, i do, accept the form and back in the bug, i'm still signed-off, if it retry, it works, but only for a while [12:14] uh?? where's the post comment button??? http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/lp-no-post-comment-button.png [12:20] fta: Hm, all the icons seem to be missing too. [12:21] wgrant, chromium daily [12:23] hm, a restart worked. weird === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Meths_ is now known as Meths === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:58] I am looking at whether Launchpad provides any resource load-balancing, estimating, etc... I am trying to figure out how to check whether a particular developer is assigned too much work to handle, can Launchpad help in that area (I am thinking Blueprint mostly) === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === Ursinha is now known as Ursula [16:29] bsaibes, I don't think so, but you could check the list of bugs/blueprints that are inprogress for any given user through the "All assigned blueprints" and "All bugs in progress" links on their profile page [16:31] Ok - that is a start, I can check there - would I have access to check others' profile? [16:31] yeah, definitely! [16:31] bsaibes, https://edge.launchpad.net/~james-w for instance [16:32] now related question - does blue print allow me to assign sizing to a Work Item? [16:33] bsaibes, that's not really a Launchpad question as it has no idea about work items -- we just abuse the blueprints' whiteboard to list the work items which are them parsed by an external tool [16:34] bsaibes, that was just to say that if we extend that external tool, we can then include the sizing info along with the work items [16:35] but that's a question for Jamie Bennett. :) [16:35] yes that need to be looked at then see whether we can abuse the Whiteboard further [16:35] bsaibes, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/~linaro-toolchain-wg/+specworkload [16:36] James_w, thx this link looks promising, let me check it out [16:36] that's a start, but the work item tracker is probably better for that, and it doesn't show bugs [16:36] james_w, wow, that's new to me. quite interesting [16:37] (view any person team, go to blueprints and select "Workload" on the right) [16:38] james_w, I am working with Michael H. to address this issue, Michael has created this list for the Toolchain team now we need the sizing and check how to load balance the assignment === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [16:40] Salagado, so maybe we need to expand on the Work Item convention in the whiteboard to add a sizing to each Work Item, then creare a tool to check the load for each developer [16:41] I believe that's already in progress [16:42] James_w, who is handling this? [16:42] I don't know the status though, talk to JamieBennett [16:43] James_w, ok will do there a release meeting in few minutes, will ask there === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann-away === oubiwann-away is now known as oubiwann === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Meths_ is now known as Meths === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [19:19] therve: hi, so one question I have is where the appropriate place in an app lifecycle is to install a storm tracer [19:19] er, wrong window === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === EdwinGrubbs is now known as Edwin-lucnh === Edwin-lucnh is now known as Edwin-lunch === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno === ajmitch_ is now known as ajmitch [21:13] mwhudson: syn... [21:13] michaelh1: hello [21:14] mwhudson: right, so he was ~rsandiford. [21:14] Hang on, this is too long to type.. Skype/Mumble? [21:14] michaelh1: in a few minutes? i'm in a cafe, but won't be for much longer [21:15] mwhudson: there's no rush. Any time today is fine. Ping me when you're available [21:15] michaelh1: okidoke [21:48] uh [21:48] login.launchpad.net does not seem very happy? [21:49] oh, it was probably the login for prod, log in for edge problem [22:21] Hi, I deleted a package in my PPA because the build was not successful (some issue in the control file). After that I was trying to upload the modified package to PPA but it's always rejected /w the following err msg: "but uploaded version has different contents". So, why I can not upload a packeg to a PPA if that package is already deleted from that PPA? Is there any way to get it work or I need to create a new PPA and upload that [22:21] ilap: yes, change the version [22:22] something I dont get about that, if a package fails to build then its taking up space in launchpad, right? why doesnt the option exist to completely erase a version that didnt build at all? [22:23] Ta, I was thinking of this, but I did not want it as what if an other dependency issue appears? [22:24] So, there is no any way to completely erase a PPA and package. [22:24] that's just debian for you, really [22:24] and -> and/or [22:24] ilap: then you upload again [22:24] ilap: append a ~ppa1 to the end of the version string [22:25] ilap: in a package version in debian, in a version number like 1.2-4, the '4' is (at least by strong convention) an indication of the version of the packaging [22:28] Thx, but I did not want to change the version in my package due a Build-dependencies issue. So, that's why I thought (was I naive?:)) the delete it and reupload the modified one should be sufficient. Coz, I am not sure that all of the Build depencies are sorted in the control file. === gord_ is now known as gord [22:29] well that's ok [22:29] it's not like you get bragging rights for having a particular version number [22:41] Ok, I see. Ta all. === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [22:57] As I am a really newbie here in launchpad therefore what do you recommend? Version nr is 0.0.1-0ubuntu1, so shall I modify to this? 0.0.1~1-0ubuntu1? [22:59] ilap: i go with 0.0.1-0ubuntu2~ppa1 [22:59] ta [23:00] ilap: this will sort after 0.0.1-0ubuntu1, but before 0.0.1-0ubuntu2, and the latter is the smallest a new version that's uploaded to ubuntu would have [23:01] (i think, not really an expert on this) [23:03] mwhudson: not, no expert, I have no clue on this and also this is my 1st pkg in launchpad..:) Thx your help. [23:08] ilap, you want to ask in #ubuntu-packaging === lool- is now known as lool