[02:58] <doctormo> akgraner: Hey, did you get my message before?
[02:59] <akgraner> doctormo, yep - sorry I just got called into a meeting
[02:59] <akgraner> think I got it all worked out now  - will know in the am - thank you!!
[03:03] <doctormo> akgraner: Is it a surprise?
[03:04] <akgraner> yep :-)
[03:04] <JFo> the bacon is everyewhere
[03:05] <akgraner> but an awesome one if it all works out :-)
[03:05] <doctormo> JFo: Isn't that the problem though? I feel like I just became vegetarian for maverick.
[03:05] <nhandler>             dest = realloc(dest, (destsize + STRBUFSIZE) * sizeof(char));
[03:05] <nhandler> (ignore that)
[03:05] <jcastro> hello JFo
[03:05] <jcastro> how is acting coming along?
[03:05] <JFo> doctormo, so sad
[03:05] <JFo> hiya jcastro
[03:06] <JFo> very well thanks ;)
[03:07] <doctormo> JFo: What are you acting in?
[03:07] <JFo> doctormo, see the topic :)
[03:07] <JFo> jcastro says the guy from Deadwood looks like me :)
[03:08] <JFo> he is right though
[03:08] <JFo> scary
[03:08] <doctormo> JFo: I think I'm lacking context to that picture.
[03:08]  * doctormo is wondering how you get advertising space int he community irc channel title.
[03:08] <nhandler> jcastro: Think we could add LoCo Day to the /topic ;)
[03:08] <JFo> doctormo, that is from an HBO show
[03:09] <jcastro> nhandler: yep
[03:09] <doctormo> JFo: And that's you in the HBO show? or is that jcastro having a pull on your leg?
[03:09] <jcastro> nhandler: can you add it? I'm on a friend's machine and my pasting and copying is useless
[03:09] <jcastro> doctormo: that's actually him
[03:10] <JFo> doctormo, no, that is a guy that resembles me.
[03:10] <JFo> jcastro is pulling your leg :)
[03:10] <doctormo> What is LoCo day?
[03:11] <nhandler> doctormo: You should have gotten an email about it (it was also on the planet). Basically, it is a classroom event designed to get LoCo teams to give more classroom sessions
[03:11] <nhandler> doctormo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoDays
[07:25] <dholbach> Good Morning!
[07:27] <dholbach> ara, good morning! are we testing? :-)
[07:27] <ara> dholbach, good morning!
[07:27] <nigelb> morning dholbach, ara :)
[07:27] <ara> dholbach, we are!
[07:27] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[07:27] <dholbach> excellente
[07:37] <duanedesign> morning nigelb dholbach ara
[07:37] <dholbach> hiya duanedesign
[07:39] <nigelb> morning dholbach
[07:39] <dholbach> morning nigelb again
[07:39] <dholbach> :)
[07:40] <duanedesign> hey, how come he gets 2 :)
[07:40] <nigelb> hi dpm :)
[07:40] <dholbach> morning dpm
[07:41] <dpm> morning dholbach, morning nigelb :)
[07:41] <dpm> good morning everyone!
[07:41] <nigelb> duanedesign: haha
[07:41] <pleia2> good evening everyone!
[07:41] <pleia2> ;)
[07:41] <nigelb> ahha, pleia2 is still awake
[07:41] <dpm> hey pleia2 ;)
[07:41]  * nigelb reminded of good old days :)
[07:41] <pleia2> yeah, for a little bit longer
[07:42] <duanedesign> hello pleia2
[07:42] <pleia2> 'lo duanedesign
[08:02] <kim0> o/ morning
[08:05] <nigelb> morning kim0 :)
[08:05] <kim0> nigelb: howdy :)
[08:07] <nigelb> akgraner: I blinked for a second there.
[08:07] <dpm> morning kim0!
[08:07] <kim0> dpm: morning man :)
[08:07] <nigelb> I was like "wait, when did I get conned into doing a session this time?" :p
[08:09] <akgraner> hehe - just cc'd you on it since I told people to contact  -backstage as well
[08:10] <nigelb> Yeah, I noticed :)
[08:10] <duanedesign> lol, i love the session title 'Have you tried turning it off and then on again? '
[08:10] <nigelb> duanedesign: that one's going to rock :)
[08:10] <nigelb> ubuntu women ftw :)
[08:11] <duanedesign> ugh, toDo list is big today...
[08:13] <nigelb> So much fun to see ubuntu being talked about in a web framework channel
[09:33] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:51] <nigelb> morning czajkowski :)
[09:51] <czajkowski> how we all doing with 3 days to go :)
[09:55] <nigelb> inspiration for today => http://www.zdnet.com/blog/education/is-ubuntu-1010-yet-another-chance-to-ditch-windows/4262
[09:55] <dpm> man, I'm so happy, I've just found the zoom slider in Calc! I've been looking for a Zoom menu for ages...
[09:55] <kim0> :D
[09:55] <kim0> talk about usability
[09:55]  * dpm goes back to writing presentations with healthy eyes
[09:56] <nigelb> dpm: time to send robert hugs :)
[09:57] <dpm> nigelb, who's robert? I don't follow much OO.o development
[09:57] <nigelb> dpm: ah, Calc! okay, I thought gcalctool
[09:58] <dpm> oh, robert_ancell, no, no, that was oo.o's calc :)
[09:58] <dpm> gcalctool is awesome as it is, no need for a zoom button
[09:58] <nigelb> heh
[09:58] <dpm> :)
[10:04] <nigelb> morning jono :)
[10:10] <kim0> o/
[10:11] <jono> hey nigelb
[10:12] <nigelb> jono: millbank?
[10:14] <jono> nigelb, yup
[10:14] <nigelb> :)
[10:27] <duanedesign> morning all I have missed since last time I said good morning :)
[10:38] <nigelb> lol
[10:40] <jussi> hello duanedesign!
[10:47] <nigelb> morning jussi :)
[10:47] <jussi> hello nigelb
[10:47] <nigelb> jussi: did you ever get your cam working with gtalk voice plugin?
[10:47] <jussi> nigelb: havent played with it
[10:47] <AlanBell> jono: going to any of the London events?
[10:48] <nigelb> AlanBell: I can't believe you're missing it!
[10:48] <nigelb> AlanBell: just wait till czajkowski lands in london :p
[10:49] <czajkowski> :)
[10:50] <AlanBell> I am missing the one on 10/10/10, but I will try to get to the other two
[10:50] <AlanBell> and maybe the Swindon one
[10:53] <popey> the other two?
[10:53] <popey> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-uk
[10:53] <popey> ahhh
[10:55] <AlanBell> yup
[10:57] <czajkowski> nigelb: I'll miss the release parties in UK, but we've had good ones over here in the past and pleia2 will be at ours this time.
[10:57] <doctormo> Who's missing what where when?
[10:57] <doctormo> And why are we surprised?
[10:58] <doctormo> What what is California pleia2 doing in Ireland... visiting?
[10:58] <czajkowski> yup
[10:58] <doctormo> nice
[10:58] <czajkowski> she arrives sunday
[10:58] <czajkowski> so I get to hang out with her for a few days :)
[10:59] <doctormo> Cool, I'll be hanging with a high ranking kernel developer from Israel. FOSS is a funny world wide meeting place.
[10:59] <czajkowski> we're having a a pub quiz
[10:59] <czajkowski> well dinner first, followed by pub and quiz
[11:02] <nigelb> czajkowski: yeah, sort of envious of the fun you're going to have :)
[11:02] <czajkowski> yeah my loco isn't exactly thrilled to see me leave :)
[11:03] <jussi> czajkowski: pub in Dublin? where are you going?
[11:03]  * nigelb hugs doctormo.
[11:03] <nigelb> Thanks for adding that bit in.
[11:04] <nigelb> Should ask amber to factor that in to her mail announcement format :)
[11:04] <doctormo> thanks nigelb
[11:04] <doctormo> nigelb: She already replied.
[11:04] <czajkowski> jussi: we;re going to the Market bar
[11:05] <doctormo> czajkowski: Will the loco be ok without you? I know lugs that collaps when one high profile person goes.
[11:05] <czajkowski> doctormo: oh it'll be fine there are loads of folks who do most of the stuff already
[11:05] <czajkowski> I just have the pointy poking stick
[11:05] <doctormo> Lucky!
[11:05] <doctormo> You could do that from afar, those pointy sticks come in extra long.
[11:06]  * jussi wonders if there is a mini czajkowski... then puts the scary image out of his brain :P :P
[11:06] <AlanBell> we already know the pointy pokey stick is long enough to cover the dublin-london distance
[11:06] <czajkowski> doctormo: we have a team contact and eafter that everyone has a job in the team, I dont actually have a specific role but we have 1 person who does the team reports, another few mail man admin  website admin, and we have a chair and then someone mails out the team the mins of meeting
[11:07] <doctormo> czajkowski: All those jobs were mine in the loco, heh. No wonder you guys can do more.
[11:08] <czajkowski> we're rather fortunate people offered to help, the down sides are our loco is very small and spread out over ireland and dont always like face to face events
[12:02] <jono> dholbach, dpm, jcastro, kim0 hey guys
[12:02] <kim0> hey
[12:02] <dpm> hey jono
[12:03] <jono> dholbach, dpm, jcastro, kim0 I would like to ask you to take a look at the list of LP graphs available and go and review each of your 11.04 plans and identify which graphs help us track progress
[12:03] <jono> if no graphs are suitable for tracking progress, I want you to identify what we *could* track
[12:03] <jono> this will just help us track our progress better
[12:05] <jono> dholbach, dpm, jcastro, kim0 is that cool?
[12:05] <jono> dpm, how are you getting on with the Chinese report?
[12:06] <dpm> jono, yes, that's cool. Report: I'm on it since yesterday. Not finished yet, but it will be ready today. I can show you a preview in ~5 mins if you like
[12:12] <cjohnston> Someone is awake way too early.. /me looks at jono
[12:15] <jono> dpm, thanks!
[12:15] <jono> dpm, heading to lunch now, we can review in a bit
[12:15] <jono> cjohnston, I am in London :)
[12:15] <jono> heading back tomorrow
[12:15] <jono> biab
[12:17] <cjohnston> Gotcha
[12:19] <doctormo> cjohnston: Not early then, late ;-)
[12:19] <doctormo> jono: Hey jono, community here. *waves*
[12:21] <cjohnston> It'l only 1120 then
[12:21] <cjohnston> lol
[12:24] <duanedesign> czajkowski: with your loco so spread out what do you find are good things for the LoCo to work on?
[12:24] <jono> doctormo, :)
[12:26] <duanedesign> czajkowski: i know that is a rather vague question. See myy loco is fairly spread out geographically and i am trying to plan some projects. Just fishing for ideas. :)
[12:28] <czajkowski> duanedesign: the ubuntu hours have worked well
[12:28] <czajkowski> mainly in DUblin we get the largest turn out, with limerick having 3-6 people and cork only getting 2-4 people
[12:28] <dholbach> jono, ok
[12:30] <czajkowski> duanedesign: got to find something that works for ye though every team is so different, we mixed things up during the summer with geeknics
[12:34] <duanedesign> czajkowski: yeah so true. i have been trying to find someone who wants to be an organizer on Oklahoma City. A lot of our members are spread between the two major metro areas.
[12:43] <doctormo> cjohnston: I've never put your name into so much python before, heh
[12:49] <czajkowski> duanedesign: it'll only really work if there is someone in the area interested if 2 people meet up that;s great and that's 2 people more who can meet face to face than wouldnt have done in the past
[14:03] <jcastro> dpm: dholbach: kim0: what lp graphs is he referring to?
[14:03] <kim0> jcastro: https://lpstats.canonical.com/graphs/
[14:03] <kim0> thanks to dpm for pointing to them
[14:04] <jcastro> thanks
[14:04] <AlanBell> url for special people only :(
[14:06] <doctormo> AlanBell: Not for us community people :-/
[14:06] <dpm> AlanBell, I think most of the info there is harmless, but there might be some sensitive stats, hence the permissions. I know some of the LP stats would be useful to the community, but that's how permissions work there right now
[14:06] <AlanBell> oh don't worry I don't mind :)
[14:06] <doctormo> AlanBell: We'll make our own stats, with hookers and blackjacks!
[14:06] <Pici> I know this isn't the right place to ask, but I have a user here (#ubuntu) thats trying to contact the Ubuntu Training Team via Canonical's site.  He says that he hasn't gotten a reply after 7 days.  I'm not sure where to send him next.
[14:07] <dpm> dinda perhaps? ^
[14:07] <doctormo> Pici: This is the right place for that question.
[14:07] <Pici> doctormo: :P
[14:07] <doctormo> dpm: She's doing materials in education now.
[14:07] <Pici> doctormo: oh, I read an "isn't" in there somehow.
[14:07] <AlanBell> Pici: what country?
[14:08] <Pici> AlanBell: France.
[14:08] <doctormo> I think it would depend on what kind of training. Certification, educational, events or just general training as might be provided by the community etc.
[14:09] <popey> There is no training team any more inside canonical
[14:09] <popey> As I understand it
[14:09] <AlanBell> personally I would give Boris Devouge a prod and see what he says
[14:10] <Pici> http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/training still exists.
[14:10] <JFo> there is still a training team as far as I know
[14:12] <JFo> my guess is that they are a bit busy this week
[14:12] <JFo> but I am not positive that is the case
[14:13] <Pici> Well, I'd really like to just either throw this person at them, or get confirmation that they're backed up with work.
[14:13] <JFo> Pici, let me see what I can find out
[14:15] <Pici> JFo: Do you want the user's nick?
[14:15] <JFo> sure
[14:15] <Pici> Its 'azertyuio'
[14:16] <JFo> thanks :)
[14:16] <AlanBell> certainly french then!
[14:16] <Pici> I have to get back to real work.  Thanks for looking into this for us :)
[14:17] <JFo> Pici, no problem :)
[14:29] <popey> wonder if lists.ubuntu.com is having issues at the moment
[14:31] <cjohnston> why is my name going into python doctormo ?
[14:32] <doctormo> cjohnston: I figured out why you didn't appear in my irc log analysis (remember last weekish?). turns out your cjohnston|cell alias is never renamed into cjohnston and visa versa, sot he script was confused about who you were and assumed you had no name.
[14:33] <doctormo> I was using your name in the python to print out "THE MAN IS HERE" when your name was processed correctly.
[14:33] <doctormo> I assume you just quit and boot up your phone irc.
[14:33] <cjohnston> lol
[14:34] <cjohnston> This connection is 24/7.. my phone I just jump on when I need to
[14:34] <doctormo> cjohnston: It just took a lot of cjohnstoning to debug, about 15 instances of 'if 'cjohnston' in something: print "THE MAN IS HERE". heh
[14:34] <cjohnston> lol
[14:38] <dinda> Pici:  hey there
[14:39] <Pici> dinda: hey
[14:39] <dinda> Pici: your person might want to poke billy.cina@canonical.com for anything training related these days
[14:40] <Pici> dinda: Of course, it seems like the person has signed off.  I'll keep it in mind for their return.
[14:40] <Pici> Thanks :)
[14:50] <JFo> Pici, yeah, I just chatted with billycina, apparently they didn't get an e-mail as all their e-mail is answered
[14:51] <JFo> or maybe their response went to a filter
[14:51] <JFo> so next time we see them we should chat about that
[14:54] <cjohnston> doctormo: so is your script working now?
[14:55] <doctormo> cjohnston: Well yes, I'm just annoyed that while I could write most of this in python, I had to fall back to perl for the visualisation part since python lacks the libs.
[14:56] <cjohnston> lol
[14:57] <cjohnston> has it updated to include me?
[14:57] <doctormo> cjohnston: Your there now. I added in a special manual aliases input file which links you up.
[14:57] <cjohnston> link?
[14:58] <doctormo> cjohnston: Not finished yet.
[14:59] <doctormo> cjohnston: if your curious: 799 lines 4464 words for cjohnston aliased to cjohnston|cell
[15:00] <cjohnston> ahh.. where does that put me in the rank?
[15:11] <doctormo> cjohnston: 17th
[15:11] <Pendulum> cjohnston: talk more to boost your rankings? ;-)
[15:12] <cjohnston> I guess I need to
[15:12] <doctormo> cjohnston: Heh the rank is hard to beat, from 1st place down to 16th: nigelb, czajkowski, paultag, jcastro, dholbach, jono, doctormo, akgraner, popey, alanbell, jfo, vish, sense, qense, dpm, pleia2
[15:13] <Pici> and now you've pinged all of them.
[15:13] <JFo> what did I win?
[15:13] <JFo> :)
[15:13] <doctormo> Pici: Yea, I figured that would happen.
[15:13] <cjohnston> hehehe
[15:13] <JFo> and how did I wind up on a list
[15:13] <JFo> :-)
[15:13] <cjohnston> I'd like to see it in -locoteams
[15:13] <cjohnston> hehe
[15:13] <Pendulum> JFo: you talk a lot in here :-)
[15:14] <JFo> :-(
[15:14] <doctormo> Take nigelb for instance, 5587 messages to cjohnston's 799, that's 7x as many messages.
[15:14] <Pendulum> wow
[15:14] <Pendulum> cjohnston: you'd need to gag nigelb
[15:14] <cjohnston> he talks too much
[15:14] <Pendulum> aww
[15:15] <doctormo> OK I'll post the raw ranks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/508037/
[15:15] <Pendulum> although, to be fair, I'm pretty meh on ranking systems based on volume over quality
[15:15] <jcastro> what is this now?
[15:16] <cjohnston> nigelb talks too much jcastro
[15:16] <jcastro> there's no way paultag talks more than me
[15:16] <doctormo> jcastro: Do you have an alias that's not on there?
[15:16] <cjohnston> by like 13 lines
[15:16] <jono> doctormo, what are those ranks for?
[15:16] <jcastro> no
[15:17] <jcastro> jono: who's talking the most.
[15:17] <cjohnston> fun
[15:17] <jono> wow, and I am near the top?
[15:17] <doctormo> jono: Number of messages in #ubuntu-community-team over 6 months
[15:17] <jono> I try to avoid talking to you people :-)
[15:17] <cjohnston> ouch
[15:17] <cjohnston> that hurts
[15:17] <doctormo> messages / words / name / aliases
[15:17] <jono> lol
[15:17] <jono> j/k
[15:17] <popey>  /kickban jono
[15:17] <Pendulum> doctormo: btw, you might want to check for pendulum|phone (I don't think I've said anything in here using it, but it's what I'm using from my phone these days)
[15:17] <jcastro> lol jdub came in here once
[15:18] <popey> is that stats for _this_ channel?
[15:18] <doctormo> popey: yes
[15:18] <Pendulum> jcastro: I think that might have been when he was trying to figure out how to become a member again
[15:18] <popey> ah
[15:18] <jcastro> oh right
[15:18] <cjohnston> doctormo: I think since all of nigelb's talking comes from my server, you should alias his nicks to me
[15:18] <jcastro> and then he promptly disappeared again
[15:18] <JFo> Pendulum, I agree which is why I shouldn't be ranked at all :)
[15:19] <Pendulum> jcastro: I think he did maybe one blog post about how he was getting back involved in Ubuntu and then disappeared
[15:19] <doctormo> I cropped the rank at 5 messages, there were 12 <5 users too.
[15:19] <Pendulum> JFo: so stop talking :P
[15:21] <JFo> where's the fun in that? :-P
[15:21] <cjohnston> fun for us
[15:21] <cjohnston> did I say that outloud
[15:21] <doctormo> jono: Isn't it interesting that we've said about the same amount in terms of lines, but I've said twice as many words in each line. heh I never thought I was verbose before but I guess everyone needs a place to write their blog.
[15:22]  * jcastro goes back to work
[15:22] <Pici> Perhaps you should be doing word counts then?
[15:23] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/community/
[15:23] <doctormo> Pici: You mean sorting by word count?
[15:23] <popey> \o/ graphs
[15:24] <jono> jcastro, call?
[15:24] <doctormo> popey: Interesting differences, where do your logs come from?
[15:24] <jcastro> jono: yeah
[15:24] <jcastro> jono: like, weekly call or quick UDS type call?
[15:24] <popey> my local irssi logs
[15:25] <jono> jcastro, let's do a general catch up
[15:25] <doctormo> popey: could you package them up and let me have a proc?
[15:25] <jono> I know I have been AWOL this week while at the office
[15:25] <jcastro> jono: can you give me 10? I need to get this summit thing outta the way
[15:25] <jono> jcastro, sure
[15:25] <jono> thanks, bro
[15:25] <jcastro> <3
[15:25] <doctormo> popey: The logs from the official website has gaps
[15:25] <jcastro> don't tase me bro!
[15:25] <jono> haha, comedy
[15:25] <jono> zzzzap
[15:25] <cjohnston> I have that shirt jcastro
[15:26] <popey> hmmm
[15:29] <dholbach> haha
[15:29] <dholbach> dholbach always lets us know what he/she's doing: 633 actions!
[15:29] <dholbach> For example, like this:
[15:29] <dholbach>      * dholbach hugs you all
[15:29] <JFo> nice
[15:29] <dholbach> jono couldn't decide whether to stay or go. 961 joins during this reporting period!
[15:30] <dholbach> that's proper data analysis for once :-p
[15:30] <JFo> be better if it said "dholbach is a huggy bear, 10,000 hugs during the reporting period." :-)
[15:30] <JFo> dholbach, true
[15:30] <dholbach> JFo, yeah, most important data criteria are missing :)
[15:30] <popey> :)
[15:30] <JFo> indeed
[15:31] <Pendulum> JFo: that could go without saying, I think
[15:31] <JFo> Pendulum, true
[15:31] <JFo> but should still be called out in graph form :)
[15:31] <Pendulum> heh
[15:31] <JFo> I think who got hugged the most is important too
[15:31] <maco> nigelb is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 18 times.
[15:31] <maco> For example, like this:
[15:31] <maco>      * nigelb pokes duanedesign in the eye
[15:32] <cjohnston> lol
[15:32] <maco> so THATs why they wont let him into the country!
[15:32] <Pendulum> aww
[15:33] <JFo> nigel 'eye-poker' b
[15:34] <maco> jcastro also makes sailors blush, 0.0% of the time.  <--- now thats just reaching
[15:34] <JFo> I like that metric
[15:34] <jcastro> jono: I am ready, skype or mumbles?
[15:34] <doctormo> What is mumbles[not a question mark]
[15:35] <jcastro> http://mumble.sourceforge.net/
[15:36] <doctormo> thanks
[15:37] <popey> mumble > skype
[15:43] <jono> jcastro, logging on
[15:43] <jono> skype
[15:44]  * popey notes unsurprisingly that creating similar graphs for #ubuntu kills the cpu for "Some time"
[15:44] <jono> jcastro, log on please :)
[15:45]  * jcastro watches swirling login logo
[15:47] <jcastro> it appears to not be signing in
[15:47] <jcastro> jono: you're trying jcastro1975 right?
[15:47] <jono> I only have on ejcastro on skype
[15:47] <jono> the normal one
[15:47] <jono> jcastro, ^
[15:47] <jcastro> yeah it's not signing in, it's just the spinning logo, weird, give me a sec
[15:48] <jono> jcastro, I will call your phone
[15:51] <paultag> jcastro, haha, you serious?
[15:51] <paultag> jcastro, I rocked you and you know it
[15:51] <duanedesign> ~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~/9
[15:52] <highvoltage> popey: moo
[15:52] <popey> moo indeed!
[15:54] <nigelb> doctormo: wow, I won! yay
[15:55] <nigelb> at least I didn't lose everything
[15:55] <nigelb> maco: right!
[15:55] <highvoltage> popey: can I give it a shot? my youtube username is jonathancarter1982
[15:56] <doctormo> nigelb: Don't rush to the chapagine. popey's logs/code show something different and I'm waiting on popey to respond to getting access to those logs for comparison. I think he's busy.
[15:57] <nigelb> doctormo: my other nicks aren't on popey's chart
[15:57] <popey> sorry, killed my vps generating stats
[15:57] <doctormo> dholbach is the loco directory AGPL or GPL?
[15:57] <nigelb> "Poor jcastro, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 7 times."
[15:58] <doctormo> nigelb: You're the one doing the attacking!
[15:58] <dholbach> doctormo, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2/annotate/head:/COPYING
[15:58] <nigelb> doctormo: No, I don't attack jcastro
[15:59] <doctormo> dholbach: mhall says launchpad says GPL only.
[15:59] <paultag> doctormo, we've talked about this downtown ;)
[15:59] <dholbach> https://edge.launchpad.net/loco-directory
[15:59] <dholbach> Licenses:
[15:59] <dholbach> GNU Affero GPL v3
[15:59] <paultag> doctormo, sorry, i read that wrong
[15:59] <nigelb> ohai there paultag
[15:59] <paultag> nigelb, ohai
[16:00] <doctormo> paultag: Different and old flamewar.
[16:00] <nigelb> paultag: got some time for a chat?
[16:00] <paultag> nigelb, yessir :)
[16:00] <paultag> doctormo, ahha
[16:03] <akgraner> whew - I am learning to be quiet :-)  - awesome!
[16:03] <nigelb> akgraner: haha
[16:03] <nigelb> I should talk less
[16:03] <nigelb> but this is like the chatroom to be!
[16:08] <nigelb> hahaha
[16:08] <nigelb> seen on facebook "read somewhere that Microsoft is going to make smartphones..wonder where they'll fit Ctrl, Alt and Del keys.."
[16:08]  * nigelb totally LOL'd at that one :)
[16:08] <duanedesign> geesh. My connection is terrible today
[16:09] <highvoltage> popey: so? can you give me access?
[16:11] <duanedesign> nigelb: have you seen this xkcd http://revista.python.org.ar/1/html-en/xkcd.html
[16:11] <JFo> you talk more than me akgraner... WIN! \o/
[16:11] <scott-work> lol nigelb
[16:11] <akgraner> DOH!
[16:11] <nigelb> duanedesign: looking
[16:11] <nigelb> scott-work: heh
[16:12] <nigelb> duanedesign: hahaha
[16:12] <nigelb> good one
[16:12] <nigelb> I think it can be updated to windows visa
[16:12] <duanedesign> :)
[16:12] <duanedesign> right!
[16:13] <duanedesign> that is a magazine published by py-argentina. They just recently translated it to English
[16:13] <popey> highvoltage: what do you need?
[16:14] <doctormo> XKCD, bah, that Randall put himself on his own map of the internet.
[16:14] <popey> haha
[16:15] <sense> good afternoon
[16:15] <doctormo> I think I'm going to go down to Sommerville and shake my fist at his ball pit (yes he does have a ball pit)
[16:15] <highvoltage> popey: I guess I need the login details or otherwise rights to change the channel theming
[16:19] <popey> phew, finally when I ask people not to act up on ubuntu-users people are speaking up in support!
[16:20] <akgraner> popey, nice!
[16:28] <czajkowski> hmm no jono
[16:36] <nigelb> czajkowski: ^^
[16:37] <czajkowski> jono: you free?
[16:37] <jono> czajkowski, kinda
[16:37] <jono> whats up?
[16:37] <czajkowski> stuff I talked about the other day with you
[17:34] <nigelb> who's got experience with python's subprocess module?
[17:45] <doctormo> nigelb: me
[17:46] <nigelb> doctormo: I think I'll need your help in some time.  Let me see if I can do magic on my own :)
[17:46] <doctormo> nigelb: Sure thing, let me know when you need my python voodoo.
[17:47] <nigelb> doctormo: thanks :)
[17:53] <Technoviking> morning all
[17:56] <Technoviking> at the booth at the Utah Open Source Conference
[17:57] <jcastro> hi teh
[17:57] <jcastro> er, Technoviking
[17:57] <jcastro> <--- autocomplete fail
[17:58] <nigelb> more like typing fail
[17:58] <Technoviking> I should Skype some folks in later
[18:02] <czajkowski> Technoviking: cool, how big is the event
[18:03] <Technoviking> about 750 people last year
[18:05] <czajkowski> Technoviking: pretty big
[18:10] <nigelb> doctormo: ping.  Can I PM? :)
[18:11] <doctormo> nigelb: sure
[18:13] <Technoviking> need tshirt swag
[18:17] <Technoviking> http://yfrog.com/jk5g4vj
[18:18] <doctormo> Technoviking: Nice, needs banner too.
[18:19] <Technoviking> doctormo: my big printer died:(
[18:23] <doctormo> Technoviking: You can order one for your loco team...
[18:23] <Technoviking> doctormo: hopefully next year we can get the loaner booth
[18:29] <Technoviking> the Fedora booth are being snarky
[18:30] <JFo> who is there for Fedora Technoviking?
[18:30] <JFo> that isn't normally like them
[18:36] <jcastro> Technoviking: are they burning ubuntu CDs again?
[18:40] <jcastro> sooo, jill yells "I need your help getting the cat in the bag to take him to the vet."
[18:40] <jcastro> so I am thinking "ok, just a minute"
[18:40] <jcastro> I look like I've been mauled by 15 lions.
[18:41] <sense> Cats can be vicious indeed.
[18:41] <Technoviking> jcastro: tender vittles in a cat carrier
[18:41] <jussi> large welding gloves ftw ;)
[18:41] <popey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ffwDYo00Q
[18:41] <popey> ^^^^ all cats
[18:41] <jcastro> I am proud of the little guy, instead of just scratching me randomly he dug into my chest, gunning for the heart.
[18:42] <Pendulum> jcastro: just think you'll have sexy battle scars :P
[18:42] <jcastro> or I'll be dead!
[18:42]  * JFo plays Cat Scratch Fever
[18:44] <nigelb> This is precicely why I dodn't like cats
[18:44] <nigelb> Dogs have owners, cats own YOU
[18:45] <JFo> nah, cats have staff
[18:46] <sense> Cats don't own or are owned, they just appropriate themselves whatever they need.
[18:46] <jcastro> he'll pay for letting me live; he's tired, I just need to find him and spring the trap
[18:56] <Pendulum> I <3 cats
[18:56] <JFo> taste great
[18:57] <JFo> with a little salt that is
[18:57] <JFo> cats need salt
[18:57] <JFo> :)
[19:07] <jono> JFo, I physically LOLed
[19:07] <JFo> :)
[19:08] <JFo> I try to get you to laugh daily jono
[19:08] <czajkowski> JFo: is this how you cope with bug reports :p
[19:08] <JFo> no, I'm crazy from that... there is no coping
[19:09] <JFo> I'm so burnt out on bugs right now I am like a struck match
[19:10]  * Pendulum hugs JFo 
[19:10] <JFo> thanks Pendulum :)
[19:10] <JFo> I have 11000 bug mails that I have yet to read too
[19:10]  * czajkowski hugs the crazies in ubuntu-community-team
[19:10] <JFo> just can't get motivated to look at them
[19:11] <czajkowski> JFo: I cant bribe you with white choclate and JD can I, that works wonders with me
[19:11] <JFo> nah, I need to lose weight now
[19:11] <JFo> waiting for my treadmil to get here tomorrow
[19:12] <jcastro> JFo: it sucks, ellipticals ftl.
[19:12] <JFo> yeah, I am going to try walking on the tread during the day
[19:12] <Pendulum> is everyone I know on a diet? it's starting to feel that way :-/
[19:12] <JFo> I have GOT to get out of this chair
[19:13] <JFo> Pendulum, no, I'm not on a diet
[19:13] <JFo> I just need to move more than I do
[19:13] <Pendulum> JFo: ah, fair enough :)
[19:13] <jcastro> 20 more pounds is all I need
[19:13] <JFo> I need ever so much more than 20 :)
[19:14] <JFo> my doctor says that in order not to be considered obese I need to lose 100
[19:14] <JFo> \which would put me under 200
[19:14] <JFo> which would make me a little guy
[19:14] <JFo> I told him I'd lose 'some'
[19:14] <JFo> but it would be no 100 lbs :)
[19:14] <jcastro> I started lifting
[19:14] <jcastro> I am heavier but less fatty
[19:15] <Pendulum> heh
[19:15] <JFo> I plan to do cardio first and then lift
[19:15] <JFo> need to cut before I build
[19:15] <Pendulum> I was not criticising (considering I'm doing the diet/exercise thing myself)
[19:16] <JFo> Pendulum, I understand :)
[19:16] <jcastro> my sugar tests came back way better last time so I am making progress
[19:16] <Pendulum> jcastro: yay!
[19:16] <JFo> I am afraid of what mine look like
[19:16] <jcastro> I'll have my gear at UDS, I'd be more than happy to confirm what you probably already know. :p
[19:17] <jcastro> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-launchpad-for-upstreams
[19:17] <jcastro> JFo: sub to that please
[19:17] <jcastro> that shall be our annual lp grilling
[19:17] <JFo> loadin
[19:18] <JFo> done
[19:18] <JFo> works for me jcastro
[19:18] <JFo> I still owe you a plan for how we deal with +patches
[19:19] <jcastro> you owe me docs for the forums too
[19:19] <jcastro> but I don't expect interest in them anyway
[19:19] <JFo> yep
[19:19] <JFo> well... we will discuss at UDS :)
[19:19] <czajkowski> I folks are going to UDS can you please update your details into https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-N/Attendees
[19:19] <czajkowski> *if
[19:20] <Pici> ooh, figlet
[19:21] <JFo> I so listen to the wrong kind of music when working
[19:21] <JFo> :)
[19:21] <jcastro> ugh, lp keeps logging me out today
[19:21] <JFo> jcastro, don't get me started
[19:21]  * JFo stabs malone
[19:21] <jcastro> yeah
[19:23] <czajkowski> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLeuRLhoexg  blaring while I tackle emails
[19:23] <czajkowski> by taackling I mean mailing everyone else with action items :)
[19:24] <JFo> <- listening to Kid Rock
[19:24] <JFo> and catching myself singing it
[19:24] <JFo> and I jump genres too much... was listening to Utah Saints and The Crystal Method earlier
[19:47] <doctormo> Why did I skip calculus at the sixth form I didn't go to!
[20:37] <Pendulum> doctormo: huh?
[21:50] <doctormo> Woot, finally finished.
[21:51] <doctormo> nigelb: Are you still here?
[21:51] <nigelb> doctormo: yup
[21:51] <nigelb> doctormo: Here's my reason for staying up till 2:30 am -> http://github.com/nigelbabu/git-impact-graph
[21:52] <nigelb> paultag: ^^ I haz something for you :)
[21:56] <doctormo> nigelb: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/report/ubuntu-community-team.svg <- this is what I just completed.
[21:56] <doctormo> jono: this is a community connectivity graph: ^ you may be interested.
[21:57] <doctormo> Although it is 10pm in London, so he's probably down the pub.
[21:58] <AlanBell> sweet, what is that based on doctormo?
[22:00] <AlanBell> are the lines based on the number of times someone says someone else's nick?
[22:00] <doctormo> AlanBell: IRC logs in this channel between the dates. It's basically a connectivity graph.
[22:01] <doctormo> Basically
[22:01] <AlanBell> cool stuff
[22:01] <nigelb> I'm like at the center :p
[22:01] <AlanBell> I have never spoken to Pendulum
[22:01] <AlanBell> oh, have now
[22:02] <doctormo> nigelb: You talk a lot to everyone :-P
[22:02] <nigelb> AlanBell: *blink* you never have?
[22:02] <doctormo> Code for those interested: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~doctormo/doctormo-random/irc-graphing/files
[22:02] <AlanBell> nigelb: surprised me too
[22:03] <AlanBell> pretty hard to work it out for everyone else, but Pendulum is right next to me and there is no connecting line
[22:03] <AlanBell> between me and Pendulum
[22:04] <nigelb> Now there should be :p
[22:05] <nigelb> I have now learned that python sucks with array keying compared to php
[22:10] <paultag> nigelb, what's up?
[22:10] <nigelb> paultag: http://github.com/nigelbabu/git-impact-graph
[22:11] <nigelb> (work in progress)
[22:12] <paultag> nigelb, kickass :)
[22:13] <nigelb> paultag: I'll get it something for fancy over the weekend :D
[22:13] <paultag> nigelb, for sure, for sure
[22:14] <paultag> nigelb, I never knew your github
[22:14] <paultag> nigelb, folowing you now :)
[22:14] <nigelb> paultag: first project on github :)
[22:14] <nigelb> I signed up to branch cakephp and submit a fork for merging I think
[22:14] <nigelb> but instead submitted a patch :p
[22:14] <paultag> nigelb, haha aye
[22:17] <doctormo> nigelb: What is it about python lists that are defective compared to php?
[22:18] <nigelb> doctormo: I couldn't key it as easily I could key php
[22:18] <doctormo> nigelb: I don't know how more flexible lists could be keyed, the python implimentation seems perfect, much better than perl.
[22:18] <doctormo> nigelb: Can you give me an example?
[22:19] <nigelb> doctormo: in php I do
[22:19] <doctormo> nigelb: proceed
[22:19] <nigelb> foreach($line in $array):
[22:20] <nigelb> gah
[22:20] <nigelb> I'm too sleepy to type it out
[22:20] <nigelb> morning
[22:22] <doctormo> nigelb: That looks very possible in python. for line in array:
[22:23] <nigelb> doctormo: there's more
[22:23] <nigelb> how do you have string keys?
[22:23] <doctormo> nigelb: That's a dictionary, not a list.
[22:24] <nigelb> doctormo: I shall look at that code again when I'm sane
[22:24] <doctormo> doing for x in y: is an iterator. You can make your own itterators with yield (which is fun). To iterate over a dictionary you just have to decide what it is you want to iterate over.
[22:25] <nigelb> doctormo: can I iterate over a dicationary and creaaate fields dynamically?
[22:25] <doctormo> for key in dict.keys(): or for (key, value) in dict.iteritems(): etc
[22:25] <nigelb> we should continue this conversation in about 5 hours when I'm sane
[22:25] <nigelb> 3 am isn't my best
[22:25] <doctormo> nigelb: Get more sleep than 5 hours :-)
[22:26] <nigelb> nah, work
[22:26] <nigelb> TGIF :D
[22:56] <highvoltage> jcastro: I updated the theme on http://www.youtube.com/user/ubuntudevelopers , let me know if it's ok or if there's something you'd like changed
[22:57] <jcastro> that's way better than before!
[22:59] <pleia2> doctormo: hm, where does it get the pictures?
[23:00] <nigelb> pleia2: gravatar apparently
[23:00]  * nigelb goes to bed for real.
[23:00] <pleia2> ah
[23:18] <doctormo> pleia2: headochies from planet ubuntu
[23:20] <doctormo> Some people don't show because their headochi is differently named, I think your was lyz.png instead of pleia2.png
[23:20] <nhandler> doctormo: Isn't it hackergotchi
[23:20] <doctormo> nhandler: Some kind of shrunken head thing.
[23:21] <pleia2> yeah, my lp name is different than my irc nick
[23:22]  * nhandler is installing the perl modules to run the script.
[23:22] <nhandler> Later, I'll modify it to work with my local irssi logs
[23:24] <doctormo> nhandler: The processing time on the Aesthetic graph goes up exponentially with more nodes.
[23:25] <nhandler> doctormo: I'll look at the code. I might take out some of the graph stuff and just focus on the hard data
[23:26] <doctormo> nhandler: It's seperate anyway, just use the generate-index and generate-connections scripts for your data mining.
[23:26] <nhandler> One thing I've wanted to do for a while is load my irssi logs into a database of some sort so that I could run queries on it. I just need to come up with a good/logical way to store it
[23:26] <doctormo> But do pass back your irssi mods, I could use them for double checking.
[23:27] <nhandler> Hmm...I just ran the generate-all scrript, and I ended up with all 'Linked image not found' circles
[23:29] <nhandler> doctormo: Is it just looking for the nick change messages to determine aliases (for the most part)?
[23:30] <doctormo> nhandler: Ah your right I didn't commit the default circle
[23:31] <doctormo> nhandler: There is a users.aliases file it will accept for manual connections too.
[23:31] <nhandler> doctormo: Yeah, I saw that mentioned in the code.
[23:32] <doctormo> nhandler: The date related indexing it for eventual animation.
[23:45] <jcastro> highvoltage: great job, it doesn't make my eyes bleed
[23:45] <highvoltage> jcastro: what a co-incidence! that was the goal
[23:47] <akgraner> News Team Meeting in 12 minutes if anyone wants to pop in
[23:47] <akgraner> ubuntu-news