[01:48]  * freeflying 
[03:40] <doctormo> I need some help with a package that works ok in lucid, but fails to build for maverick.
[03:40] <doctormo> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/57210297/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.xserver-xorg-input-wizardpen_0.7.3-2maverick1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[03:41] <doctormo> The error is odd and unfamiliar to me. Permission denied executing ./configure
[03:41] <poolie> doctormo: it's not +x permission
[03:41] <poolie> a few reasons that could have broken:
[03:41] <poolie> 1-
[03:41] <poolie>  the permissions are actually different in this package
[03:41] <poolie> 2- previously it was run with 'sh ./configure' and now it's not
[03:41] <poolie> though that seems a bit unlikely
[03:42] <poolie> 3- previously something was running autoconf, which recreated/chomdded it
[03:42] <poolie> seems unlikely too
[03:42] <poolie> hth
[03:44] <doctormo> hth?
[03:44] <poolie> "hope that helps"
[03:44] <poolie> it's probably #1
[03:44] <doctormo> poolie: Checking the source dir, the configure file is +x, I wonder if it's in the deb source though like that.
[03:46] <doctormo> Ah perhaps it's because the make source produces an output which is different... hmm, interesting weirdness.
[03:47] <doctormo> This is why I dislike semi-abandoned codebases, no upstream to ask for help.
[03:59] <ScottK> micahg: Looks like http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320081 ?
[04:00] <poolie> hello scottk
[04:00] <ScottK> Hello poolie
[04:01] <ScottK> micahg: http://www.zoneminder.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=64281 looks interesting too.
[04:03] <poolie> ScottK: could you sponsor, or give us some further feedback on, the SRU in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/636930
[04:03] <poolie> i think your concerns from last time are now addressed
[04:03] <micahg> ScottK: k, I ended up pushing to PPA since they're empty
[04:03] <micahg> it builds fast
[04:03] <ScottK> poolie: We're definitely into SRU territory now.
[04:03] <poolie> that's fine
[04:03] <ScottK> It's also late here, so I don't have time to sponsor it tonight.
[04:04] <ScottK> Since it's an SRU, it can't get accepted until Sunday, so no rush ....
[04:04] <poolie> right, it's not urgent
[04:04] <poolie> i'd just like to know if we have to do anything else to make it move
[04:05] <micahg> ScottK: our diff is to fix a problem with ffmpeg
[04:05] <ScottK> micahg: Are you sure we still need it?
[04:05] <micahg> ScottK: that was what I was going to try next :)
[04:07] <ScottK> OK.  I'm off to sleep.  Good night.
[04:07] <micahg> ScottK: night, thanks
[04:21] <micahg> hyperair: hi, can you sponsor a debdiff?
[04:31] <hyperair> micahg: fxscintilla?
[04:31] <hyperair> you still haven't found another sponsor?
[04:31] <hyperair> i thought someone else was looking into it?
[04:31] <micahg> hyperair: heh, no that's already built :), bug 656101
[04:31] <hyperair> zoneminder eh
[04:36] <nigelb> g30
[04:46] <fabrice_sp> Now that even universe is hard frozen, are sync request still processes (it's for bug 613926, that has been approved before freeze), or should I upload with ack-sync?
[04:47] <fabrice_sp> ScottK, ^ (as you acked it)
[04:47] <micahg> fabrice_sp: he's offline, you can try slangasek
[04:48] <fabrice_sp> thanks micahg ! I saw it in the log not so long ago
[04:48] <fabrice_sp> will wait to see if slangasek reply to your ping
[04:49] <fabrice_sp> by the way, you have a second vote for Motuship ;-)
[04:49] <micahg> fabrice_sp: heh, thanks
[04:50] <micahg> upload rights come in handy towards the end of the cycle
[05:05] <hyperair> micahg: you added a trailing empty line at the bottom of debian/changelog.
[05:05] <hyperair> micahg: i'll just remove it, but please don't add it in the future.
[05:05] <hyperair> micahg: one \n is enough =)
[05:06] <micahg> hyperair: ugh, I don't have that in my debdiff
[05:06] <hyperair> micahg: it's in your debdiff.
[05:06] <hyperair> @@ -222,3 +236,4 @@
[05:06] <hyperair>      various scripts; replaced with GPL.
[05:06] <hyperair>  
[05:06] <hyperair>   -- Peter Howard <pjh@northern-ridge.com.au>  Wed,  7 Feb 2007 14:09:01 +1100
[05:06] <hyperair> +
[05:06] <hyperair> see that trailing +
[05:06] <micahg> oh, I think that came with it
[05:06] <micahg> I just didn't notice
[05:06]  * micahg checks
[05:06] <micahg> yes, it was in the last upload :)
[05:06] <hyperair> nah, it didn't
[05:06] <hyperair> it wasn't.
[05:07] <hyperair> i debdiffed against the last upload.
[05:07] <hyperair> or rather, i import-dsc'd everything into git for proper examination
[05:07] <micahg> hmm, you're right, it was grab-merge then :)
[05:08] <micahg> I've never seen that before, I'll watch for it now
[05:08] <hyperair> it could be a quirk of your text editor
[05:09] <hyperair> some have a habit of adding one extra \n
[05:09] <micahg> hyperair: from grab-merge patch:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/507743/
[05:10]  * hyperair used apt-get source and dget
[05:10] <hyperair> hmm maybe someone should look into grab-merge.
[05:10] <hyperair> i mean not grab-merge, but merge.ubuntu.com's code itself
[05:11] <hyperair> micahg: anyway apart from that it looks good, so i'll just testbuild and upload.
[05:11] <micahg> hyperair: k, thanks, BTW, pbuilder fails
[05:11] <hyperair> i use sbuild.
[05:11] <hyperair> what happens in pbuilder?
[05:12] <micahg> hyperair: underfined reference or something
[05:12] <hyperair> hmm
[05:12] <hyperair> well i'll see if it happens
[05:16] <hyperair> micahg: looks like it built. i'll upload it then )
[05:16] <hyperair> =)
[05:16] <micahg> hyperair: cool, thanks
[05:17] <hyperair> uploaded
[07:10] <fabrice_sp> I was thinking yesterday about the MOTU acronym meaning, and the fact that we want to get rid of the split between main and universe, and I was wondering: shouldn't we change Master of the Universe to Master of the Unseeded. I know that we loose something in the change, but that may be more accurate. What do you think?
[07:10] <micahg> fabrice_sp: when it happens, it seems appropriate
[07:12] <fabrice_sp> micahg, what do you mean? It's early for my english parser :-)
[07:12] <micahg> the term is appropriate once the archive reorganization happens
[07:13] <fabrice_sp> well, atually, the reorganization is happening now
[07:13] <fabrice_sp> (otherwise you won't be able to upload to -mozilla set ;-) )
[07:13] <micahg> fabrice_sp: well, that's part of it, I'm sure it'll be discussed at UDS
[07:14] <fabrice_sp> is there a planned session for that?
[07:15] <micahg> fabrice_sp: I don't see one yet
[07:17] <fabrice_sp> oh. I'll wait a bit then (or send an email later). I have to  go now. Bye!
[07:17] <micahg> fabrice_sp: have a good day
[07:25] <dholbach> Good Morning!
[07:26] <coolbhavi> good morning dholbach !
[07:26] <dholbach> hey coolbhavi
[07:27] <coolbhavi> hey dholbach how are you doing?
[07:27] <dholbach> good good - how are you?
[07:27] <coolbhavi> m doing fine too
[11:15] <Laney> While we still have components and component-based uploading, MOTU's current expansion is correct
[11:16] <Laney> Archive Upload Rights for motu: archive 'primary', component 'universe' in maverick
[11:16] <Laney> that
[11:50] <Rhonda> Oh, right, requestsync …
[14:48] <ari-tczew> micahg: package uploaded, but branch is still hanged,
[16:00] <micahg> ari-tczew: k, I'm not going to worry about it
[17:56] <ari-tczew> I'm looking for someone who is familiar with licenses...
[17:59] <ScottK> !ask | ari-tczew
[17:59] <ScottK> ;-)
[18:00] <ari-tczew> ok, I have granted ACKs for new package (revu/clementine), but debian/copyright have to be checked by someone familiar with licenses.
[18:13] <ari-tczew> ScottK: maybe you? ^^
[18:13] <ScottK> ari-tczew: Not until after release.  Too much other stuff to do.
[18:14] <ari-tczew> ScottK: I understand. @start natty?
[18:14] <ScottK> ari-tczew: Not before that.  No promises.
[18:14] <Laney> why do you think it's suspect?
[18:15] <ari-tczew> Laney: bdrung has suggested it with giving a comment on revu.
[18:15] <fabrice_sp> ScottK, about bug 613926: should I upload the sync with syncpackage, or it will be synced by an archive admin?
[18:15] <fabrice_sp> you acked it yesterday
[18:16] <Laney> ari-tczew: I think he just means that someone needs to check that d/copyright is correct
[18:16] <Laney> the licenses used are fine
[18:17] <ScottK> fabrice_sp: Go ahead and upload it with syncpackage.
[18:17] <fabrice_sp> ok
[18:19] <ari-tczew> Laney: did you look at clementine's d/copyright?
[18:19] <Laney> yes
[18:20] <Laney> you need to check it's complete and correct
[18:21] <ari-tczew> Laney: this file is handled by upstream author. what do you think, can we trust him?
[18:21] <Laney> no
[18:21] <Laney> the archive admin will check it, you need to too or risk a reject
[18:21] <ari-tczew> Laney: so I asked who is familiar with d/copyright
[18:22] <ari-tczew> because I'm not good person to do it.
[18:22] <Laney> why not?
[18:22] <ari-tczew> I'm not familiar with licenses.
[18:22] <ari-tczew> Laney: I thought that as motu I can upload package by myself (new package).
[18:23] <Laney> Well first of all you should have a working knowledge of them. But second of all you don't really need to be: you just have to check that what is in copyright matches the license statements in the package, and that nothing has been missed out.
[18:23] <Laney> ari-tczew: all NEW source packages get a copyright review
[18:23] <kklimonda> you can if you are able to check d/changelog - that's the same for everyone
[18:23] <kklimonda> d/copyright..
[18:25] <ari-tczew> Laney: ok, so when natty will be started, I'll subscribe ubuntu-archive
[18:25] <Laney> it needs two acks
[18:25] <ari-tczew> Laney: bdrung and me
[18:25] <Laney> neither of you have acked it on revu
[18:26] <Laney> and you should review the copyright file...
[18:26] <Laney> and the archive doesn't need to be subscribed to anything, they review from the NEW queue
[18:26] <ari-tczew> Laney: I'm not familiar with licenses. I'm looking for someone who is familiar with d/copyright.
[18:27] <Laney> This is a good time to learn. Archive administrators aren't the people to do this for you.
[18:28] <ari-tczew> Laney: oh, I just forgot. I'm only laborer.
[18:28] <Laney> It's fairly routine work, just takes a lot of time: checking that what is written there matches up with the source
[18:34] <BlackZ> ScottK: bug #655929: can I proceed with the upload of that package with the changes we mentioned?
[18:34] <ScottK> BlackZ: Yes.
[18:35] <BlackZ> ScottK: thanks
[18:37] <ScottK> Time for me to run off again....