| dantti_note | Riddell: right I'll try to send you a patch this night to disable that, but imo both should be enabled, and for 11.04 i can enumerate a few problems on having just the apt one.. | 00:08 |
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| dantti_note | oh this nvidia beta driver is so broken that even skype doesn't work well :( | 00:11 |
| === v is now known as vorian | ||
| CIA-116 | [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101007232153-nuigpn1usadhbwpg * src/daemon/event.cpp A bit less obnoxious this way. | 00:22 |
| CIA-116 | [muon] jmthomas * 1183579 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/event.cpp A bit less obnoxious this way | 00:23 |
| JontheEchidna | code copies ftl | 00:23 |
| JontheEchidna | we need a libkdedevent for that event class | 00:24 |
| CIA-116 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1183605 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp Use value() instead of the [] operator when looking up an origin label to prevent the QHash from inserting a value in the case that there isn't a label for the said origin. | 04:16 |
| valorie | jussi, you might already be aware of this, but I just saw it: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/fglrx-finally-works-with-ubuntu-1010.html | 08:17 |
| valorie | I'm thinking that update might be messing with us? | 08:17 |
| jussi | valorie: I reinstalled, and it seems to work now | 08:18 |
| valorie | reinstalled what? | 08:18 |
| valorie | Mav? | 08:18 |
| jussi | yup | 08:19 |
| jussi | now flash works | 08:19 |
| valorie | oh gads | 08:19 |
| jussi | and fglrx | 08:19 |
| valorie | so, clean install was the key? | 08:19 |
| jussi | well kind of. I retained my home dir | 08:20 |
| valorie | right, I can't let that go | 08:20 |
| valorie | I guess i should back it up, and reinstall | 08:20 |
| valorie | fiddlesticks | 08:20 |
| jussi | annoying though | 08:20 |
| valorie | indeed | 08:21 |
| valorie | is it worth it, do you think, to rsync the alpha ISO I have | 08:22 |
| valorie | or should I just re-download? | 08:22 |
| jussi | I cant see any reason why not... | 08:22 |
| jussi | but I am not an expert in rsync | 08:23 |
| valorie | mee either, by a long shot | 08:23 |
| valorie | but I can google..... | 08:23 |
| jussi | hrm, however I dont seem to have desktop effects :/ | 08:24 |
| valorie | ah, I guess I should let amarok finish building first | 08:29 |
| valorie | zsync looks like the way to go | 08:30 |
| shadeslayer | ok it seems ill be getting my visa in 5 days \o/ | 08:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Riddell ^ | 08:31 |
| valorie | we should have a kubuntu meetup at some point | 08:32 |
| valorie | when are y'all arriving in Orlando | 08:32 |
| shadeslayer | arent we having one @ UDS? | 08:32 |
| valorie | or to the hotel? | 08:32 |
| * shadeslayer has to check his mail for that | 08:32 | |
| valorie | oh, how would I find out | 08:32 |
| shadeslayer | hold on | 08:32 |
| shadeslayer | unfourtunately my return is on the 30th | 08:33 |
| * valorie still doesn't have tickets, unless they finally acted to day | 08:33 | |
| shadeslayer | http://pastebin.com/dBwdPeJh | 08:33 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: ^ | 08:33 |
| valorie | I'm flying friday, and staying with a friend for the weekend | 08:33 |
| valorie | :-) | 08:33 |
| valorie | flying home sunday | 08:33 |
| * shadeslayer tries to make sense of those details | 08:34 | |
| valorie | hopefully spending Sat/sun with the Halls | 08:34 |
| shadeslayer | i think the first time column is IST, and the second one is whatever orlando follows | 08:34 |
| jussi | Im likely flying in sun and out sat | 08:34 |
| shadeslayer | EDT or something | 08:34 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: likewise for me | 08:35 |
| valorie | that's the worst god-awful glob of text I've ever seen | 08:35 |
| shadeslayer | hehe... i know... | 08:35 |
| shadeslayer | ok ive understood it i think | 08:36 |
| valorie | I understand your name, and the times | 08:36 |
| valorie | lol | 08:36 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 08:36 |
| shadeslayer | i think 22.50 is IST | 08:36 |
| shadeslayer | everything else is EDT .. except last entry which is again IST | 08:36 |
| valorie | so you arrive the 24th, and leave the 30th | 08:37 |
| shadeslayer | yus | 08:37 |
| valorie | how many hours in the air? | 08:37 |
| valorie | gosh, that's a lot of flying | 08:37 |
| shadeslayer | probably 18-20 | 08:37 |
| valorie | i was thinking about whining, but I'll just shut up | 08:37 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: all the way from india :P | 08:37 |
| valorie | yah | 08:38 |
| valorie | impressive | 08:38 |
| * valorie just has to fly the diagonal across the US | 08:38 | |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: did ya get visa? :) | 08:39 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: they kept my passport, will mail it to me in 5 days | 08:44 |
| shadeslayer | so yeah i guess | 08:44 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: yay, congrats :) | 08:44 |
| shadeslayer | they were rejecting people left, right and centre :S | 08:44 |
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| shadeslayer | nigelb: thanks! | 08:44 |
| nigelb | yeah, I was one of those :p | 08:44 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: ill say re-apply, vish was also rejected :( | 08:45 |
| shadeslayer | they asked me the same questions as you :) | 08:45 |
| shadeslayer | i guess being a student + UK visa helped alot | 08:46 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: can't reapply | 08:47 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: too late. | 08:48 |
| shadeslayer | whut? whai? | 08:49 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: its what... 15 days more to UDS | 08:49 |
| shadeslayer | so submit fees > 2 days waiting > take appointment in any of the 13 days? | 08:50 |
| nigelb | once you are rejected you can get appointment only at the end | 08:50 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: ^^ | 08:50 |
| nigelb | So next appointment is only for 22nd | 08:50 |
| shadeslayer | meh... this is lamez | 08:51 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: yeah, I know. | 08:51 |
| nigelb | you are the Indian representative this time around :p | 08:51 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: apply for next UDS then, also, i wont get to go to Disneyland :'( | 08:51 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 08:52 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: lol | 08:52 |
| nigelb | did you get the gift from mom? | 08:52 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: she's going to get it next week ( probably Monday ) | 08:52 |
| nigelb | Moar win :) | 08:52 |
| shadeslayer | a shiny new N900 \o/ | 08:52 |
| jussi | next uds should be on this side of the world.. | 08:55 |
| valorie | shadeslayer: unless we sneak out with apachelogger | 08:55 |
| jussi | I might be staying an extra day at the end :D | 08:56 |
| jussi | recovery day! | 08:56 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: aye... we will take jussi with us :P | 08:56 |
| valorie | Band on the run..... | 08:56 |
| valorie | checking my email | 08:56 |
| valorie | maybe they finally bought my tickets | 08:56 |
| valorie | jussi, which ISO did you grab? | 08:58 |
| jussi | the daily from yesterday, linked from the qa site | 08:58 |
| valorie | k | 08:58 |
| shadeslayer | anyone have a connecting flight from Newark? :) | 09:08 |
| * valorie is connecting from ......Dallas I think | 09:09 | |
| valorie | Houston | 09:12 |
| valorie | I do have tickets, thank goodness | 09:12 |
| valorie | 7 hours in the air | 09:13 |
| jussi | Im connecting from JFK I think | 09:17 |
| jussi | valorie: short flight then? :D | 09:17 |
| jussi | min is 55mins, 8:40, then 3:02. should be fun :D | 09:18 |
| jussi | so a total of 12:37 :) | 09:19 |
| jussi | plus changes | 09:19 |
| valorie | 4 hours to Dallas, another 3 to Orlando | 09:41 |
| valorie | so nicely broken up | 09:41 |
| jussi | valorie: this is way better than before. | 09:41 |
| jussi | fglrx actually helped a _lot_ | 09:41 |
| valorie | now that I've done updates, and updated the UDS wiki | 09:42 |
| valorie | I'll restart | 09:42 |
| valorie | and see if today's updates fix it | 09:43 |
| valorie | otherwise, zsync, here I come | 09:43 |
| valorie | bbiab | 09:43 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yay | 09:48 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 09:48 |
| shadeslayer | now you can clone yourself :P | 09:48 |
| apachelogger | git clone | 09:48 |
| shadeslayer | ok pizza is here, cya in a bit :D | 09:48 |
| valorie | now to learn zsync | 09:49 |
| valorie | and blogging about it, of course | 10:00 |
| valorie | almost 20% done already | 10:01 |
| valorie | alpha took about 3 hours to download | 10:01 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: my flight goes via Newark | 10:08 |
| shadeslayer | oooh | 10:08 |
| shadeslayer | what date/time? | 10:08 |
| shadeslayer | ( local time @ Newark ) | 10:08 |
| shadeslayer | and if you have the flight number, it would be awesome | 10:09 |
| valorie | 73%! | 10:11 |
| valorie | zsync is awesome | 10:11 |
| * shadeslayer is trying to make qt GUI for that | 10:11 | |
| valorie | for zsync? | 10:12 |
| valorie | it's uber-easy | 10:12 |
| valorie | if I can do it, anyone can | 10:12 |
| valorie | well, anyone over 10 | 10:12 |
| valorie | zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20101007/maverick-alternate-amd64.iso | 10:13 |
| valorie | how hard can it be? | 10:13 |
| valorie | 92% done | 10:14 |
| valorie | OMG, this is the best thing evar | 10:14 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: it's co37 and arrives 16:15 | 10:15 |
| shadeslayer | awww | 10:16 |
| shadeslayer | mine leaves AWR at 8.30 | 10:17 |
| valorie | well, damn it, I dled the wrong one | 10:20 |
| valorie | should have been zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20101007/maverick-alternate-amd64.iso.zsync | 10:20 |
| valorie | maybe a gui would be better | 10:20 |
| valorie | lol | 10:20 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 10:20 |
| valorie | until then, my fellow newbs will linuxgrandma's blog to hold their hands | 10:21 |
| valorie | shadeslayer: is this a KDE version of ubuntu-qa-tools | 10:22 |
| valorie | ? | 10:22 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 10:22 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: http://gitorious.org/qzsync | 10:22 |
| shadeslayer | still heavy WIP | 10:22 |
| valorie | cool | 10:23 |
| valorie | I have a backup app which is a front for rsync | 10:23 |
| valorie | luckyBackup | 10:24 |
| valorie | that's my next step | 10:24 |
| valorie | backup home | 10:24 |
| valorie | do you have any screenshots? | 10:27 |
| valorie | heh, it's still almost 60% done | 10:27 |
| valorie | really rocking | 10:27 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: yus | 10:28 |
| shadeslayer | one sec | 10:28 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: http://imgur.com/3Lb8f | 10:29 |
| shadeslayer | altho..im thinking of a UI re-write | 10:29 |
| shadeslayer | on the basis of Ktorrent/KGet | 10:30 |
| * valorie starts writing ISO to the USB | 10:47 | |
| valorie | if only I knew how to just sync THAT | 10:57 |
| valorie | it's only 1/3 done | 10:58 |
| valorie | bleah | 10:58 |
| valorie | USB is soooo slow | 10:58 |
| fregl | is it expected that I get this when running apt-get update on merverick? Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch | 12:53 |
| ScottK | fregl: not generally, but it sometimes comes up as a transient. | 13:20 |
| ScottK | If it didn't fix its self in several minutes, then it's potentially concerning. | 13:20 |
| fregl | ok, I expect it will be more stable after the release | 13:20 |
| fregl | I commented out th source lines for now | 13:20 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 13:20 |
| fregl | the installation was actually quite pleasing :) | 13:21 |
| fregl | kpackagekit didn't like policykit (whichever version that is) much - I could not edit any sources in there | 13:21 |
| fregl | it showed a dialog which immediately disappeared again | 13:22 |
| Riddell | fregl: what happens when you start software-properties-kde from the command line? | 13:44 |
| fregl | Riddell: as normal user I get a hint: "Please run ... with administrative rights. ... kdesudo." | 13:46 |
| fregl | I did add a new user to this machine - what group do I need to be in for this? | 13:46 |
| ScottK | fregl: admin | 13:46 |
| fregl | I added the user to all the groups that the originally created user is in. In fact I'll try with the first user. | 13:46 |
| fregl | groups says I'm in admin | 13:47 |
| ScottK | Not sure then. | 13:47 |
| fregl | hum, logout seems to not work on my test lappy | 13:49 |
| fregl | it returns to shell | 13:50 |
| fregl | oh, in var/log/messages I got a segfault in packagekitd - error 4 in libc-2.12.1.so | 13:51 |
| Riddell | logout not working suggests kdm is crashing | 13:53 |
| Riddell | which i think is a problem ScottK has been having | 13:53 |
| ScottK | Riddell: The one I've been having at least appears to be an X crash. It could be KDM though. | 13:54 |
| fregl | ok, with the user that was originally created packagekit works | 13:54 |
| fregl | since that user was a demo user, I created a second account for myself... I should have done it the other way around | 13:55 |
| fregl | I'll compare groups now | 13:55 |
| ScottK | Riddell: If the work around in bug 651294 solves your crash then I'd agree they are likely the same. | 13:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 651294 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "X crash on KDM logout (still - yes, really)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651294 | 13:55 |
| fregl | yes, I think it is an intel card | 13:56 |
| fregl | I just got the machine | 13:56 |
| fregl | Riddell: ScottK: yes, the workaround from 65129 solves my issue with kdm | 14:02 |
| ScottK | OK. | 14:02 |
| ScottK | IIRC that's an indication to blame X, not KDM, but I wouldn't claim to be an expert. | 14:02 |
| fregl | ok, my kpackagekit trouble is also solved: I created the user with an empty default group, no clue why kuser allows me to do that ?!? adding a proper group as primary group helped | 14:06 |
| fregl | hm, the select user dialog becomes pretty annoying after a while ;) I whish it would remember my last choice - is that in kde upstream? | 14:09 |
| Riddell | fregl: are you sure it was kuser? we ship with userconfig by default | 14:10 |
| fregl | Riddell: oh, I'm clearly not up to date, is that custom kubuntu? | 14:12 |
| fregl | hum, the software selection in kpackagekit is awesome-double-plus-great. but why does it show the list of software in disabled font color? | 14:13 |
| Riddell | fregl: it's pykde author/kubuntu and should replace kuser upstream in everyone's humble opinion but it hasn't happened | 14:13 |
| fregl | ah, installed stuff gets proper black font... | 14:13 |
| fregl | Riddell: ok, where do I file a bug about it? | 14:14 |
| fregl | it was nice to use, but creating a user without group is not so great ;) | 14:14 |
| Riddell | fregl: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/userconfig/+filebug or poke yuriy_work | 14:14 |
| Riddell | or both | 14:14 |
| fregl | yuriy_work: poke :) | 14:16 |
| fregl | Riddell: ScottK: thanks a lot guys! *hug* | 14:16 |
| ScottK | fregl: You're welcome. | 14:16 |
| Riddell | thanks for testing fregl | 14:16 |
| fregl | :) | 14:17 |
| fregl | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/userconfig/+bug/656880 | 14:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 656880 in userconfig (Ubuntu) "Creating a new user should make sure the user gets a group assigned" [Undecided,New] | 14:20 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: did you review my koffice package? | 14:37 |
| txwikinger | And? Maverick finished? | 15:11 |
| shadeslayer | id say yeah | 15:11 |
| shadeslayer | to the SRU mobile! | 15:11 |
| txwikinger | since the logical release day was yesterday | 15:11 |
| * txwikinger found a problem in pyqt4 | 15:12 | |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: how come? | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | how was the logical release day yesterday? :) | 15:15 |
| txwikinger | releases are always on Thursdays | 15:16 |
| txwikinger | and yesterday was the last Thursday before 10-10-10 | 15:16 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 15:26 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: IIRC sabdfl wants to release on 10.10 10/10/10 :D | 15:26 |
| txwikinger | No.. he said in UDS the official date is 10-10-10 but it should be finished the Thursday before | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | um... isnt it finished? | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | i think the archive is frozen solid | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | final ISO's are up | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | i think were all set for a 10/10/10 release | 15:28 |
| Riddell | we're not all set, they need testing | 15:33 |
| Riddell | so do upgrades | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | not enuf bandwidth :S | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | ill bbl .. cya | 15:34 |
| yuriy_work | fregl: pong | 15:53 |
| fregl | yuriy_work: hey :) I filed a bug for the user management | 15:53 |
| yuriy_work | oh i see it | 15:53 |
| yuriy_work | thanks | 15:53 |
| fregl | it was just that it allowed me to creat a user with no group | 15:53 |
| fregl | thanks for looking at it :) | 15:53 |
| yuriy_work | unfortunately i haven't gotten around to the bugs or any Kubuntu work in about a year :( | 15:54 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: I did 4 upgrades | 15:55 |
| yuriy_work | so if there is someone new looking to get into pykde work, i think userconfig would be a great project for them | 15:57 |
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| Riddell | txwikinger: groovy, report them on iso.qa.ubuntu.com | 16:12 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: I thought there are only iso tests.. I did do-release-upgrade | 16:13 |
| txwikinger | but I can do some iso testing later in my vm | 16:13 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/4748 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/4749 | 16:13 |
| dev001 | Is 10.10 slated to have KDE 4.5.1 or 4.5.2? iiuc, atm 4.5.2 is only avaialble via PPA ... | 17:06 |
| Riddell | dev001: there's your ansewr | 17:11 |
| Riddell | dev001: there's your answer | 17:11 |
| dev001 | Riddell: sry, what? | 17:13 |
| Riddell | if 4.5.2 is only in a PPA then the answer must be 4.5.1 | 17:14 |
| dev001 | Riddell: I have no idea what decisions if any have been made about official release, as it's not out yet. Hence, my question -- and my understanding "at the moment". | 17:15 |
| Riddell | hmm, maybe I was too impolite | 17:24 |
| ulysses | 2 | 17:51 |
| ulysses | (sorry) | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: when are the sessions finalized? any dates? | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | like ... when do we have a definitive schedule | 17:53 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: you dont, the schedule is fluid, it changes everyday | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: uhh... isnt that counter-productive? | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | we should have one schedule and stick to it | 18:18 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: not really, things come up... | 18:18 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: it works pretty well | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 18:19 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: the schedule is always up on the monitors, so you never lose track | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 18:19 |
| jussi | and there are monitors every where | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | but then theres a chance of missing a session ;( | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | ;) | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: oh and i suppose we have wifi right :P | 18:19 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: well not really, as long as you look at the monitor before every session. | 18:20 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: of course | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | seems rekonq is moving to git.kde.org | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | yayy | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: kewl | 18:20 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: sometimes you have to choose, because 2 you want to go to are at the same time | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | aww | 18:20 |
| jussi | but if there is a conflict and you really need to be in both, they can sometimes move them so it works, hence fluid schedule | 18:21 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 18:21 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: how will you be making calls and stuff from US? | 18:22 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: skype | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | ohk | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: it works for you on Kubuntu? ... my mic doesnt pick up alot of voice... | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | i have to lean into my screen to speak :P | 18:23 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: turn the mic up? | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | doesnt work, its at full volume | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | otoh it works in gnome just fine | 18:24 |
| jussi | have you pulse installed or using normal kubuntu | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | normal kubuntu | 18:25 |
| jussi | are you sure, pulse keeps kreeping in on me | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | so maybe ill install guh-no-meh @ UDS for some time :D | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | lemme check again | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | gah | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | i haz pulseaudio installed | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | http://pastebin.com/GXPbJeLZ | 18:26 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio | 18:26 |
| jussi | ;) | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 18:26 |
| jussi | is there any way you can move the "title bars" to the bottom of the window? could be interesting and I wouldnt mind trying it... | 18:28 |
| shadeslayer | dont think so | 18:30 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: Any chance to test powerpc final images? | 18:41 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Skype works fine for me on Kubuntu. | 19:21 |
| ScottK | jussi: With pulseaudio. | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: mic input is low here | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer | also.. it isnt signing in right now -.- | 19:21 |
| jussi | pulse is evil. never works for me | 19:22 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: lol... after removing pulse skype says : Microphone : Pulse Audio Server (local) , hahha | 19:23 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: log out and log in | 19:23 |
| jussi | ;) | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: as in log out of KDE? | 19:24 |
| shadeslayer | well | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | it still says PA | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | *shrug | 19:26 |
| maco | did you log out of kde yet? | 19:28 |
| maco | cuz uninstalling pulse doesnt make it stop running... | 19:28 |
| jussi | maybe restart, I dont remember | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | yep :) | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | ok will restart then | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | oooooooooh | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: maco ScottK it works much better without PA | 19:32 |
| maco | my only skype related issue happen in webcam-land, not mic-land | 19:33 |
| shadeslayer | webcam works fine here :D | 19:33 |
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