[00:24] <mhall119> is edge.launchpad.net taken down?
[00:26] <spm> mhall119: no. what's the problem you're seeing?
[00:26] <mhall119> bzr: ERROR: Connection error: while sending CONNECT xmlrpc.edge.launchpad.net:443: [Errno 111] Connection refused
[00:26] <mhall119> trying to bzr branch lp:awstrial
[00:27] <mhall119> I remember seeing something on planet about edge going away or something
[00:28] <mhall119> oh nevermind, tried the command in a new terminal and it worked....
[00:30] <mhall119> thanks anyway
[07:36] <scandium> hello, I last used my ubuntu bugzilla account in 2005, before launchpad existed. accounts from ubuntu bugzilla were automatically imported into launchpad, but I guess I still need to register a new account as launchpad is using OpenID? At least recovering the password using the "forgot password" method didn't work :/
[07:37] <scandium> is there another way to recover the account? or do I just need to create a new one? (just curious how it'll work because apparantly, the name will be the same :-)
[07:37] <wgrant> scandium: Do you know your old account's username?
[07:37] <spm> what wgrant said...
[07:37] <wgrant> Things from that long ago could be in a couple of different states.
[07:38] <scandium> wgrant, well, yes, because launchpad has bugs from 2005 where I commented ;) https://launchpad.net/~rainer-groesslinger <- that's it
[07:38] <scandium> I have *never* logged into launchpad yet, in case that helps you, last time I logged in it was still the ubuntu bugzilla
[07:39] <wgrant> Hah, that's a while ago.
[07:39] <wgrant> So, you should still have an account on login.launchpad.net.
[07:40] <spm> scandium: do you still have access to an email address at melodax ?
[07:43] <scandium> yes
[07:43] <spm> (being deliberately vague here, so I don't plaster WHICH address in a public channel) :-)
[07:45] <spm> when you said recovering via the forgot password didn't work; did you not get an email? or the email + link didn't work? or ??
[07:47] <scandium> didn't get email. it also hasn't been rejected (looked at exim log), but for some reason I just wasted your time...I tried again and it immediatly arrived...perhaps I hallucinated...OR I mistyped my e-mail address (can't say for sure anymore, obviously)
[07:48] <spm> ha, np
[07:49] <spm> @ 5.45pm on a friday, easy problems that solve themselves are most desirable :-)
[08:17] <nigelb> spm: ha
[08:17] <spm> :-)
[08:21] <dpm> hey henninge, could you give us a hand?
[08:21] <dpm> Here comes a long comment:
[08:21] <dpm> fta has been working towards making chromium translatable in Launchpad.
[08:21] <dpm> Here are the templates:
[08:21] <dpm> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/chromium-browser
[08:21] <dpm> Due to a problem with the comments in the first templates he uploaded, he was in touch with danilo and danilo removed the templates and asked him to reimport them. By removing I mean he changed the project name and series and put them here:
[08:21] <dpm> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/deleted-templates/+pots/generated-resources
[08:21] <dpm> That's just one of the templates (notice the rosetta/deleted-templates in the URL)
[08:21] <dpm> That's all fine.
[08:21] <dpm> Now fta has imported a new set of templates, which got correctly imported into the chromium-browser project.
[08:21] <dpm> However, all the PO files got wrongly imported into the rosetta/deleted-templates templates. E.g.
[08:21] <dpm> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/translations/+imports?field.filter_status=IMPORTED&field.filter_extension=po
[08:21] <dpm> Now, how can we make it for translations to be imported into the right project and to avoid this to happen in subsequent imports?
[08:21] <dpm> He's using automatic imports from bzr
[08:23] <henninge> dpm: My guess is that the translations were already approved before the template was moved.
[08:23] <henninge> even though not imported yet. Does that fit?
[08:24] <henninge> dpm: Approval in the queue link an import entry to a template (by database id). So if that template is moved to a different project, the imports will happen there.
[08:24] <dpm> henninge, I'm not sure. I think fta imported them all last night by pressing the "One time import" link. So do you think requesting another one time import should solve the problem?
[08:25] <henninge> hm
[08:25] <henninge> dpm: probably not
[08:25] <fta> no, i just pushed new revs to my branch
[08:26] <fta> thought it was the same..
[08:26] <dpm> fta, yeah, I think it should be
[08:27] <henninge> fta: there is a little catch
[08:29] <henninge> the queue has this optimization that when it sees a file of the same name as one that is already in the queue (for the project) it simply reuses that entry and set's it to "Needs Review" again.
[08:29] <fta> d'oh!
[08:30] <henninge> The problem here is that with danilo's little fix, the queue entries are linked to a different project (your project) than the templates that the files are imported into (the deleted-templates)...
[08:30] <henninge> fta: we have two options
[08:30] <henninge> 1. Wait three days for the old entries to be garbage collected, then request another import.
[08:31] <henninge> 2. Re-assign all 159 entries to the right template and set them to "approved" again.
[08:31] <henninge> Bit of a pain for me to do manually, I could try to whip up some SQL magic.
[08:34] <thekorn> hi guys, I've got a question: let's say I've deactivated the gpg key which I used to sign the ubuntu CoC, in this case I would have to sign the CoC again with a new key, right?
[08:35] <thekorn> and also the CoC should no longer appear as `signed` to me.
[08:35] <thekorn> or is there some misunderstanding on my side?
[08:35] <wgrant> thekorn: The key and signature are still associated with your account.
[08:35] <wgrant> But the key is hidden and new signatures from it are no longer accepted.
[08:36] <wgrant> I think.
[08:36] <fta> henninge, well, i don't know. i have new strings almost everyday (already have ~30 new strings for chromium 8 locally in my branch waiting)
[08:36] <thekorn> wgrant: ok, but do I have to sign the CoC again?
[08:37] <thekorn> """Note: If you deactivate a key here, Launchpad will automatically disable any features that use that key, such as a signed code of conduct. Also, the key will be deactivated on Launchpad only."""
[08:37] <thekorn> ^^^ that's from +editgpgkeys
[08:37] <wgrant> thekorn: It does say that, but I can't see any code to that effect.
[08:37]  * wgrant tries.
[08:38] <henninge> fta: I just thought that if I am to request for SQL to be run on the production database (involves administrative overhead), I might as well request the deletion of the queue entries.
[08:38] <henninge> fta: It'll take a few hours but after that you can request a fresh import.
[08:39] <fta> henninge, if starting from scratch is easy, let's do that. it's getting messy
[08:39] <henninge> fta: sure, I'll get back to you when it's done.
[08:39] <fta> henninge, thanks!
[08:40] <henninge> fta: do you have an entry in bugs or answers about this that I can refer to?
[08:42] <fta> henninge, not directly but we hit a bug when trying to work-around that
[08:42] <fta> bug 655077
[08:43] <wgrant> thekorn: You don't need to resign it.
[08:43] <wgrant> Despite what the form says.
[08:49] <dpm> fta, I talked about that with danilo yesterday. I think the best thing to do for now, if we don't want to waste translator's efforts, would be to remove the two unused templates from the bzr branch and then disable them in Launchpad. We can look at adding them again in case upstream decides to use them.
[08:49] <thekorn> wgrant: ok, thanks. I'll file a bug about the documentation on this page
[08:49] <dpm> fta, that should avoid the bug as well
[08:54] <fta> dpm, that bug does't bother me too much, i set a low priority for those templates so the 1st to appear in the list are the one we need first
[08:57] <dpm> fta, I know, but I'm sure translators will see them and translate them nevertheless :) Anyway, I don't think it's that critical they're ~200 strings, just a suggestion
[09:30] <koni> hi
[09:30] <koni> when using the Answer section in launchpad
[09:31] <koni> I select change your preferred languages
[09:32] <koni> for Italy it list a number of different languages spoken in Italy: Sardinian, Ladin, etc.
[09:32] <koni> but what is missing is German
[09:35] <koni> could this be added?
[09:39] <nigelb> koni: visit https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/~YOUR-LP-NAME/+editlanguages
[09:39] <nigelb> and add the languages you want there
[09:40] <koni> I did this, this is not the problem
[09:41] <koni> my point is that in Your language preferences I see Your browser languages: English
[09:42] <koni> Languages in Italy: Italian Italian (Italy) Piemontese Franco-Provençal Sardinian Catalan Ladin Venetian Walser Friulian
[09:42] <koni> but German is missing in this list
[09:54] <henninge> koni: Ah, you are from Südtirol?
[09:54] <henninge> koni: I can mark German as being spoken in Italy.
[09:55] <henninge> koni: done ;-)
[09:57]  * persia suspects de_IT will need *lots* of new string translations
[10:05] <koni> yes, thanks a lot!!
[10:06] <koni> hennige: how did you know about ladin?
[10:17] <vish> hmm, is the Karma meter stuck again?
[10:17] <vish> i havent seen it change for the past 3 days
[10:17] <vish> or 4
[11:22] <rye_> hi, is there anything wrong with https://staging.launchpad.net/ since it says that code update in progress for past 2 hours?
[11:33] <asabil> hi all
[11:33] <asabil> is it possible to request that a vcs import bzr branch get upgraded to 2a ?
[11:38] <jml> asabil: I'm surprised it's not already upgraded
[11:38] <jml> asabil: what's the branch?
[11:39] <asabil> https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/vala/trunk
[11:40] <jml> I don't know. Sorry.
[11:41] <asabil> so it is not up to date right ?
[11:41] <asabil> it's a knitpack with rich roots
[11:42] <jml> hmm.
[11:42] <jml> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/325069 is already fixed
[11:48] <jml> asabil: not sure what a good workaround is
[11:49] <asabil> I guess an admin could issue a bzr upgrade on the branch ?
[11:55] <spiv> asabil: I believe you can file a question at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code to get the format upgraded
[11:55] <asabil> ok will do, thanks
[12:51] <ochosi> hey guys, i just wanted to say that i'm experiencing this bug that upload stalls 1k before finishing. last time someone advised me to use sftp instead of ftp, that worked last time. now i'm having this problem with sftp. any other ideas?
[12:58] <maxb> ochosi: Are you sure you're using sftp? Given the sftp uploader does not provide progress information, how do you know it's stopping 1k from the end?
[13:02] <ochosi> maxb: yeah sry about misreporting, i just realised i used a wrong option in my build/upload script...
[13:07] <fta> it's nice to see all builders queues empty for a change ;)
[13:21] <fta> bigjools, hi, you said ~10 days ago that ppa stats were imminent. how imminent is it? ;)
[14:07] <kai> hi folks
[14:08] <jml> hi
[14:08] <kai> how long does it usually take for a gpg key to show up on the key server after gpg --send-keys?
[14:09] <jml> which key server?
[14:10] <lool> Hey, a coworker pushed to https://code.launchpad.net/~mwaddel/linaro-image-tools/usb-rootfs-option a while ago, and the branch has not been scanned for a long time now; is this a known issue?
[14:10] <kai> the one in the launchpad instructions.. hang on
[14:10] <kai> keyserver.ubuntu.com
[14:12] <jml> lool: don't know. I heard we had problems yesterday but I've heard nothing about it. I'll poke someone.
[14:40] <kai> ah, there we go
[14:40]  * kai waits through yet another round of graylisting
[14:42] <lool> jml: thanks
[14:46] <vish> hmm, how to make sure the karma "calculator" is working? ;)
[14:47] <vish> rather..how to check it is still working
[15:21] <fta> henninge, any news? (just want to know if i should suspend my import script for the w-e and until further notice or if it's fine now)
[15:22] <henninge> fta: I have the script to remove the entries ready and approved, it just has not been run yet.
[15:22] <henninge> let me see ...
[16:13] <henninge> fta: I have asked an admin to run the query but it looks like he is busy.
[16:13] <henninge> fta: You can see if it was done if this list is empty:
[16:13] <henninge> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/translations/+imports?field.filter_status=all&field.filter_extension=po
[16:13] <henninge> I have to go now.
[16:13] <fta> henninge, ok, thanks for you help
[16:14] <fta> henninge, youR
[16:14] <henninge> ;)
[16:24] <james_w> I'm having trouble seeing a private branch I have just been subscribed to. Is there anything I need to wait for, or anything more than subscribing that is needed
[16:26] <jelmer> james_w: as far as I know that should be sufficient
[16:27] <james_w> I'm still getting 403 after several minutes, and I'm told that my user id is correctly subscribed
[16:33] <sinzui> james_w, I think subscription to a branch gives immediate access
[18:44] <achiang> hello, is there a way to iterate over a collection_link in launchpadlib?
[18:44] <achiang> e.g., i can say: user = launchpad.teams['foo'] ; print user.ppas_collection_link
[18:45] <achiang> i want to find all the ppas that belong to team foo
[18:47] <achiang> rockstar: plz halp!
[18:47] <rockstar> achiang, hi!
[18:47] <sinzui> achiang: user = launchpad.teams['foo']
[18:47] <sinzui> for ppa in user.ppas:
[18:47] <sinzui>     print ppa.name
[18:48] <rockstar> achiang, sinzui wins.
[18:48] <sinzui> achiang,  thing.attr<_collection_link> is  thing.attr in launchpadlib
[18:49] <achiang> sinzui: ah! thank you. that was not obvious to me reading through https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/devel.html
[18:49] <achiang> sinzui: but rockstar will attest that i suck at python. i must have missed the attr when i did a dir(user)
[18:49] <sinzui> achiang, the collection is not materialised until you try to iterate over it. You can use ``list(user.ppas)`` to make it into a list
[18:51] <achiang> sinzui: what does "materialised" in this context mean? it doesn't show up as an attribute (aka dir(user) won't show it?) or does it mean that the attribute exists, but is "empty" until i iterate over it?
[18:51] <sinzui> achiang, it is empty before you iterate over it
[18:51] <achiang> sinzui: ok that matches my mental model, and i would expect that.
[18:52] <achiang> sinzui: the thing.attr<_collection_link> => thing.attr mapping is the crucial thing i was missing. thanks much
[18:53] <achiang> rockstar: i'm doing some laika hacking today
[18:53] <rockstar> achiang, are you over at Cohere?
[18:53] <achiang> rockstar: yeah
[19:34] <mimico> hi.  how do I post a screenshot file in launchpad?
[19:34] <maco> mimico: click the add comment/attachment link at the bottom of the bug
[19:35] <maco> or do you mean to add a screenshot to a project?
[19:35] <mimico> maco: I posted a question, and i have a request for more information.
[19:35] <mimico> so I want to post a screenshot.
[19:35] <maco> oh. i dont recall a way to attach things to Answers, but you can use http://imagebin.ca and then link to it
[19:36] <mimico> I think this is exactly what I need.  Thx.
[19:47] <sinzui> mimico, Answers does not support attachments
[19:50] <mimico> sinzui: ok.  I went with maco's advice and used imagebin.  Thanks.
[21:52] <alket> I just registred an event at loco.ubuntu.com but my username is alketii in that page it is registred as alketii2 , i dont know such an account
[21:52] <alket> why ?
[22:11] <sinzui> alket, I think your question is about Ubuntu Single Signon. Launchpad does not manage identity. When you login to Launchpad or use Lp as an OpenID provider, you are actually using login.ubuntu.com. You may have multiple SSO account.
[22:12] <alket> sinzui, im sure i don't i have just alketii not alketii2
[22:12] <sinzui> alket, loco.ubuntu.com may also be confused by changing information that SSO provides and thought you were a new user
[22:13] <alket> check the username  and see if it exists http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/468/detail/ my account
[22:13] <alket> https://launchpad.net/~alketii2
[22:14] <sinzui> alket, like I said, you are really using login.ubuntu.com, not Launchpad
[22:14] <alket> sinzui, i understood you, but where did the alketii2 come ?
[22:14] <sinzui> Launchpad does not have registration/login/password management feature.
[22:15] <sinzui> alket, I think you need to talk to someone involved with loco.ubuntu.com and may be SSO
[22:16] <sinzui> alket, I have seen this same non-sense on help.launchpad.net
[22:16] <alket> sinzui, thank you
[22:17] <sinzui> alket, the site assumes everyone registered at login.ubuntu.com is a launchpad user. They might be. Since you can have multiple SSO account, the site may get the wrong information and make an impossible link
[22:17]  * sinzui looks for forum about the issue
[22:18] <sinzui> alket, https://forms.canonical.com/lp-login-support/ may be able to explain what happened
[22:21] <alket> thank you sinzui
[22:34] <WALoeIII> Can I have inside one PPA, multiple different 'versions' of the same package
[22:35] <WALoeIII> specifically nginx requires you to compile modules in, they cannot be dynamically loaded like apache
[22:35] <WALoeIII> for different use cases I want different modules, but the packages are all ultimately nginx-0.7.67
[22:35] <WALoeIII> with rpm I would simply call it something like nginx-0.7.67.variant
[22:37] <jpds> WALoeIII: Surely it would be a better idea to just use Apache?
[22:38] <WALoeIII> I depend on specific features that nginx has and apache cannot be easily convinced to do
[22:39] <WALoeIII> I've got the 3 packages right now nginx-0.7.67-0ubuntu1webserver1, nginx-0.7.67-0ubuntu1lb1, nginx-0.7.67-0ubuntu1ops1
[22:39] <WALoeIII> but my PPAreplaces them all with webserver as it is the 'newest'
[22:39] <WALoeIII> I could also just use 3ppas
[22:40] <WALoeIII> but that seems dumb
[22:45] <sinzui> WALoeIII, you cannot have multiple *version* because the newest version always supersedes. When we want to have too different version to be installed at the same time, we change the name of the package that is provided. eg nginx2, nginx-0-7
[22:45] <WALoeIII> these don't actually even need to be on the same machine
[22:45] <WALoeIII> in fact they never wil
[22:45] <WALoeIII> versions is the wrong word, I want different variants of the same version
[22:45] <WALoeIII> I suppose changing the package name is a good idea
[22:45] <WALoeIII> nginx-lb
[22:45] <WALoeIII> nginx-webserver or w/e
[22:50] <sinzui> everything after the package name is used for versioning. I think you need to change the name to solve this problem
[23:58] <Tetsuo55> hello
[23:58] <Tetsuo55> im subsribed and affected by a bug. but the bug is not showing up in my list of related or subscribed bugs
[23:58] <Tetsuo55> its this one https://launchpad.net/bugs/612816