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MossyfunkHello all =)01:13
tenachHello team.02:53
tenachhow does one fix an install when dpkg --configure -a doesn't work?02:54
tenachdpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0144' near line 0:  newline in field name `#padding'02:54
shahanHi05:56
AbhiJitgood morning shadeslayer05:58
AbhiJitand shahan05:58
AbhiJit:)05:58
AbhiJiti was wondering why tab completing is not working with शशान but then i see that its not shashan its shahan! :(05:59
shahanIts drizzling there for 2 days in BANGLADESH(Dhaka)05:59
AbhiJitohhh06:00
AbhiJitshahan, you from Bangladesh?06:00
shahanAbhiJit, ya.. ;)06:01
geekosophergood morning all06:35
geekosopherextremely impressed by the way debian upgrade (lenny->squeeze) went yesterday, wondering if I would have the same exprerience upgrading my jaunty machine06:37
shahanis LUBUNTU officially released? by Canonical?07:13
geekosophershahan: it seems not. see http://www.ubuntu.com/project/derivatives07:24
shahangeekosopher, tnx07:26
geekosophershahan: always welcome07:34
shahangeekosopher, :)07:34
Willexhi09:35
AbhiJithi09:35
Willexis it possible to install only one part of a PPA and leave the rest out?09:35
Willexso that the rest won't keep coming up as updates09:35
AbhiJitafter insatlling that one part you can disable the ppa09:36
Willexbut won't the system want to downgrade that one installed part?09:36
AbhiJitno09:37
duanedesignyep you can only go up :)09:40
Willexk, thanks bye :)09:51
AbhiJitbye09:52
AbhiJitany good rss reader/12:02
geekosopherAbhiJit: google reader is what I prefer12:38
AbhiJitohh ok thanks teek12:38
AbhiJit:12:39
AbhiJit:(12:39
AbhiJiti mean geekosopher12:39
geekosopherAbhiJit: what do you use right now?12:40
AbhiJityarssr12:40
AbhiJitsee this geekosopher12:41
AbhiJithttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yarssr/+bug/65681712:41
ubot2Launchpad bug 656817 in yarssr (Ubuntu) "yarssr dont support Devanagari (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]12:41
geekosopheri prefer a online reader so that I can keep tabs on my read from any machine12:42
AbhiJithmm12:44
=== aveilleux_ is now known as aveilleux
shahanI want to convert ASCII pdf file to UNICODE pdf. As I want to use the search option of the pdf reader.17:14
genupulasshahan,17:19
genupulasshahan, : i am not getting17:19
aveilleuxshahan: I thought all PDF files were in unicode17:20
shahanaveilleux: no... I have some in ASCII in bengali language17:20
shahangenupulas: I have some PDF files which are in ASCII17:21
genupulasshahan, so do you wanna convert them to pdf code17:23
shahanin a big PDF file we are to use SEARCH option to find any thing easily...17:23
shahangenupulas: no...17:23
shahangenupulas: already these files are in pdf17:24
geekosophermy oh my, I thought this is ubuntu-beginners channel, but looks like I got into ubuntu-experts channel ;)17:24
genupulasshahan, sorry i'm still in doubt17:25
shahangenupulas: as UBUNTU doesnt support ASCII writting. its very tough for me to find out on these PDF17:25
shahangenupulas: got the point?17:26
Aitrus41Anyone know where I can go to get help with the Alpine email client?17:26
genupulasshahan, ...yes17:26
genupulasAitrus41, google that17:28
geekosopherAitrus41: I hope you have already visited http://www.washington.edu/alpine/17:28
Aitrus41Yeah I have... having trouble with SMTP and can't find the answer anywhere so far17:29
Aitrus41hoping to chat with someone who could look at the settings and see what's wrong17:29
geekosopherAitrus41: go ahead and ask the question, anyone who knows the answer will definitely help you17:30
Aitrus41I'm trying to send mail over port 587 from my work email using Alpine but I keep getting the error "Error sending: Can not authenticate to SMTP server: 334 OK. Continue authentication". I can read mail fine, I Just can't send it.  Here are the settings: http://pastebin.com/FzaynLnK17:34
Aitrus41In Outlook, I check "My outgoing server requires authentication" and I check off "Use same settings as my incoming mail settings" and that grabs mail fine, if that helps17:36
ehcahHello. I'm trying to run an application using wine. If su to root, I can run it from terminal. As myself, I get "wine: /home/jason/.wine is not owned by you".19:05
ehcahgone to my /.wine directory and ran ls -l. Everything appears to be owned by me?19:05
Mjiigcan you run ls -lA | grep wine19:07
Mjiigfrom your home dir19:07
ehcahdrwxrwxrwx  4 jason jason  4096 2010-10-08 15:07 .wine19:08
Mjiigand tell us what it says the folder is owned by19:08
aveilleuxehcah: Something you can do is sudo chown -r jason:jason /home/jason/.wine/19:09
aveilleuxEr19:09
aveilleuxchown -R19:09
ehcahI actually did that about 20 minutes ago.19:09
aveilleuxWeird19:09
ehcahI did not get an error message, but it did not seem to make a different.19:09
ehcahdifference.19:09
ehcahMan. I can not type today.19:10
aveilleuxehcah: That's pretty weird...19:10
ehcahI have a security camera application that will only run under windows.19:10
ehcahThe web browser requires a functional "ie tab" which is not available for any of the linux browsers.19:11
ehcahWine is my best shot. Too bad I've been dry since April!  ;)19:11
aveilleuxehcah: ...I slap you with feesh for that19:12
ehcahI don't understand why I can open the application using either the wine command or a script from terminal once I've become root. As myself, I'19:12
ehcahI can not.19:12
ehcahLO19:12
ehcahLOL19:12
aveilleuxehcah: Do other WINE programs run fine? ex. Notepad19:13
aveilleuxehcah: Something else you can try is to run the program from a different directory19:14
ehcahRight now, I can use wine "/home/jason/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/D9-Viewer.exe" from terminal once root.19:14
aveilleuxehcah: Yes but do other programs run under WINE as jason?19:15
ehcahIf not root wine "/home/jason/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/D9-Viewer.exe" gives me nothing  and simply adding "sudo" wine "/home/jason/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/D9-Viewer.exe" tells me I don't own the dir.19:15
ehcahI just opened Notepad from the short cut under Applications.19:16
ehcahSo, I guess, yes.19:16
aveilleuxOkay.19:16
aveilleuxehcah: Move that program directory to your home dir and try it from there19:16
ehcahI've tried installing this app through the WINE gui, without success. Running the command I pasted above is the only way I can get it workign.19:16
aveilleuxWait a sec19:16
ehcahSimply pull it forward?19:16
ehcahk.19:17
aveilleuxThe exe is located right in Program Files?19:17
ehcahyes.19:17
ehcahI placed it there.19:17
ehcahThe original *.exe spit out the run.exe and uninstall.exe files and I chose to place them in that folder.19:18
aveilleuxThere are no other files associated with the program?19:18
aveilleuxas in, it's standalone19:18
ehcahThe first time I tried to run it, it was missing some .dll's. I ran an MS patch, and now it works.19:19
aveilleuxI sre19:19
aveilleuxSee*19:19
ehcahI beleive they were installed under the same directories though.19:19
aveilleuxTry placing the executable in your home dir and running it from there19:19
ehcahjust a sec.19:20
ehcahNo dice as "jason" with and without sudo in front. I get wine: /home/jason/.wine is not owned by you19:23
aveilleuxOh then it's a wine config problem.19:23
aveilleuxehcah: Do you have any other WINE programs?19:24
ehcahnope.19:24
ehcahThis was the first besides notepad.19:24
aveilleuxTry this, then.19:24
aveilleuxsudo aptitude purge wine && rm -r ~/.wine && sudo aptitude install wine19:25
aveilleuxThen run winecfg19:25
aveilleuxThat'll completely uninstall then reinstall WINE19:26
ehcahrunning now. I thought about that. Would apt-get autoremove wine have worked?19:26
aveilleuxAutoremove is a different command.19:26
ehcahok. I wasn't sure.19:27
aveilleuxAptitude automatically runs autoremove every time it runs19:27
ehcahok. I had a lot of problems building an HTPC a few weeks ago and getting LIRC and imon working.19:27
ehcahinstalled, removed a lot.19:28
ehcahI've got winecfg open.19:28
aveilleuxehcah: Head over to the "Audio" tab, just to get that automagically set up19:28
aveilleuxehcah: Then you can hit "Apply" and close it19:29
ehcahThere is no audio driver currently specified in the registry?19:29
ehcahworkign now.19:29
aveilleuxehcah: Yes that.19:29
ehcahok. It's closed now.19:29
aveilleuxehcah: What's the name of the executable file?19:30
ehcahD9-Viewer.exe19:30
aveilleuxehcah: Run sudo chown jason:jason ~/D9-Viewer.exe19:31
ehcahdone19:32
aveilleuxehcah: Now try wine start /home/jason/D9-Viewer.exe19:33
ehcaherr:module:import_dll Library CovH264ToAvi.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\jason\\D9-Viewer.exe") not found19:34
ehcaherr:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\jason\\D9-Viewer.exe" failed, status c000013519:34
aveilleuxYou may have to run that Windows patch again19:34
ehcahI'm looking for it. I hope I kept it.19:34
aveilleux!pastebin | ehcah19:34
ubot2ehcah: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:34
ehcahSorry man.19:34
ehcahI usually do use pastebin.19:34
aveilleuxNo problem19:34
ehcahIt was one long line in my screen.19:34
aveilleuxWINE usually reports errors on separate lines19:35
aveilleuxNow you know19:35
ehcahyeah.19:36
ehcahI'll have to find that patch.exe again.19:36
ehcahWhen I find it. Do I run it from terminal using the wine command?19:36
ehcahMight as well install it correctly this time.19:36
aveilleuxHang on a sec19:36
ehcahk.19:36
aveilleuxehcah: Can you link where you got the patch?19:39
ehcahI have to find it first. I wish Chrome in Linux was as easy as in Windows7 to find past links...19:40
aveilleuxehcah: Doesn't ctrl-H bring up the history?19:41
ehcahI did it the hard way. I vaguely remembered it coming from support.microsoft.... and starting looking for auto completes.19:43
ehcahhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/25940319:43
ehcahIt is more information. I beleive that is the file I downloaded.19:43
aveilleuxAh, the VC redist19:44
aveilleuxYea, you'll want to do wine start <name of executable>19:45
ehcahI'm about 99% that is is.19:45
ehcahfrom the ~/Download folder?19:45
ehcahand obviously as "jason" not "root".19:46
aveilleuxehcah: Sure, it doesn't really matter where you run it from19:46
aveilleuxYes.19:46
ehcahIt's asking me where I want to place the extracted files?19:47
aveilleuxThere's never any reason to run anything in WINE as root19:47
ehcahI'm paranoid now.  :(19:47
ehcahI know - now.  :(19:47
aveilleuxC:/Windows/system3219:47
aveilleuxShould go there19:47
ehcahk.19:47
aveilleuxdll files always go into system3219:47
ehcahI can't get to it. Their Browse Tree only shows regular files and directories. Not hidden. Ctrl+H doesn't expand it.19:48
aveilleuxehcah: As... A Windows file? It should just be c:19:49
aveilleuxehcah: Don't be in Z:19:49
ehcahOk, so back in my Win7 folder?19:49
aveilleuxehcah: What are you talking about?19:50
ehcahMy goal is to completely rebuild this laptop as 100% linux once I know everything works.19:50
ehcahI'm on a dual boot.19:50
aveilleuxehcah: The19:50
ehcahC:/ is my actual Win 7 folders...19:50
aveilleux.....19:50
aveilleuxThat's not how it should appear to WINE19:51
aveilleuxLinux handles drives completely differently than Windows19:51
ehcahfonr19:51
ehcahdone.19:51
aveilleuxThe "C:\" in WINE is a pointer to ~/.wine/drive_c/19:52
aveilleuxIt's not related to your actual Windows partition19:52
ehcahThe files are under c:/Windows/system3219:53
aveilleuxNow try running the original program19:53
aveilleuxwine start D9-Viewer.exe19:53
ehcahsame error as before the update.19:54
aveilleuxThen that patch was the incorrect one19:54
ehcahIt's all I added.19:55
aveilleuxI have to go, I'll be back in about 20 minutes19:56
aveilleuxThen I'll be at an actual computer and I can help you better19:56
ehcahI don't think I dare take anymore of your time. I'll leave this channel open though.19:56
aveilleuxWell I was actually just in class :P19:57
ehcahOh man. I thought I was bad that I am supposed to be working, on the laptop to my immediate right!  :)19:58
aveilleuxehcah: ping20:17
ehcahHello20:34
ehcahCame back from the Dead.20:34
ehcahI like your exit message.20:34
KentrelHey, I haven't run linux for a while, but I haven't changed anything, but suddenly my wacom tablet isn't working20:51
KentrelIts plugged in, but doesn't work20:51
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