[01:19] <RedSingularity> Excuse me gentleman, what can I do with a bug that is more of an opinion rather than a bug?  Besides mark it as opinion.....do i do anything else to it?
[01:21] <hggdh> RedSingularity: bug #, please
[01:21] <RedSingularity> bug 656493
[01:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 656493 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "ask for reboot only if the system changes are critical and heuristics tell us the machine wont get a reboot sooner or later (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656493
[01:23] <hggdh> RedSingularity: well... we only ask for a reboot if a critical component has been replaced...
[01:23] <hggdh> So, as far as I can understand, we are already doing this.
[01:23] <hggdh> let me comment there
[01:24] <RedSingularity> hggdh:  alright :)
[01:25] <RedSingularity> hggdh:  in the future if I see opinions is it correct to mark it as an opinion and give it a "opinion" response?
[01:26] <hggdh> no, opinion should be restricted to those bugs that -- after being closed -- still get a lot of comments
[01:26] <RedSingularity> ah ok
[01:29] <hggdh> RedSingularity: I added my comment and request for info there
[01:30] <RedSingularity> hggdh:  Ok i see it.  Thanks :)
[01:32] <RedSingularity> hggdh:  Is the closed option for a bug under the importance?
[01:33] <hggdh> RedSingularity: I am not sure I understand your question
[01:33] <hggdh> oh -- how to close a bug?
[01:33] <RedSingularity> yes sir
[01:34] <hggdh> this is done by changing the Importance field
[01:34] <RedSingularity> Oh ok thats what i thought because i didnt see it anywhere
[01:34] <hggdh> A value of opinion, invalid, fix released is considered a final status
[01:34] <hggdh> sorry, not importance, status
[01:35] <RedSingularity> final status is closed?
[01:35] <RedSingularity> or considered "closed" i mean?
[01:37] <micahg> and Won't Fix :)
[01:37] <RedSingularity> i see
[01:38] <RedSingularity> sorry for all these questions guys :)
[01:40] <RedSingularity> i do appreciate all the help i get in here though :)
[01:40] <micahg> RedSingularity: questions are how we learn
[01:40] <hggdh> micahg: thank you, I had forgotten wontfix
[01:41]  * hggdh is tired, been on that since 0600
[01:42] <RedSingularity> With some bugs I see that i cannot reproduce it so i suggest a fix.....am I right doing that?  For example bug 655024
[01:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 655024 in transmission (Ubuntu) "Using higher cpu usage (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/655024
[01:45] <hggdh> that's OK. But I noticed you asked about a 10.04, while in the decription it said 10.10...
[01:46] <hggdh> RedSingularity: I am not sure it is a fix you suggested, though
[01:46] <RedSingularity> I usually ask if they have upgraded from a previous version so i may do the same.
[01:47] <hggdh> yes, that's OK, but you asked if the OP hgad upgraded *to* 10.04. The description clearly states the issue is on 10.10
[01:47] <hggdh> this just shows we need to really _read_ the description (and yes, I have done that also)
[01:48] <hggdh> so you are not alone ;-)
[01:48] <RedSingularity> hggdh:  oh that is a typo on my part....i meant 10.10
[01:48] <hggdh> oh, OK
[01:49] <RedSingularity> And i read the comments before I post them for typos.......didnt do too good a job there.
[01:49] <hggdh> heh
[01:50] <RedSingularity> time for a contact lens prescription update ;)
[01:52] <RedSingularity> hggdh:  If a fix does not work for a person and they still have a problem that *cannot* be reproduced on another machine what would be the next step?
[01:53] <hggdh> gather more information from the OP
[01:54] <RedSingularity> you mean any info I can think of that may help me reproduce it?
[01:56] <hggdh> it may be you cannot reproduce at all
[01:56] <RedSingularity> thats what i though.....so what would I do with any other info I collect?
[01:56] <hggdh> so you would have to start considering what could be causing transmission to use CPU
[01:56] <RedSingularity> hmmmmm
[01:57] <hggdh> for example -- the OP is not downloading, but is transmission uploading?
[01:57] <hggdh> the real important point is that the bug *may* exist, even if you cannot reproduce it
[01:58] <RedSingularity> could it really be considered a bug if the problem is on their machine alone?
[01:59] <hggdh> how do you know it is on their machine alone? Just because *you* (and some others) cannot reproduce?
[01:59] <RedSingularity> true
[01:59] <hggdh> this is particular important when dealing with hardware-related issues, BTW
[02:00] <hggdh> personally, I think the OP's transmission is uploading... so it is not a bug. But this has to be proved
[02:02] <RedSingularity> Well.....in the rare case that the problem is on their machine......how would we even know?  We would need LOTS of people to test it and prove it wrong would we not?
[02:02] <hggdh> well
[02:03] <hggdh> let's say it is hardware-related (sound, or video). The only way to _really_ be able to reproduce is by having the exact same hardware
[02:03] <RedSingularity> i agree
[02:04] <RedSingularity> I personally stay away from hardware related problems though because I am using virtualbox
[02:04] <hggdh> which, amazingly enough, is not that easy to get -- vendors sell a machine, with the same product code, even when they replace pieces of harware
[02:05] <RedSingularity> yea i have seen that many time
[02:05] <RedSingularity> *times*
[02:05] <hggdh> but, in this case, there is a chance transmission is uploading to some, perhaps many, remotes
[02:06] <hggdh> so the OP is not _downloading_ but transmission is still doing what it does -- sending up chunks of a file
[02:07] <hggdh> now... how you check this... IDK, I do not use transmission, or any other torrent client
[02:07] <RedSingularity> I guess this is why they suggest to stay with packages you know well yourself.  It is easier to diagnose.
[02:08] <hggdh> yes
[02:08] <RedSingularity> do you specialize in a section of bugs?
[02:09] <RedSingularity> or packages?
[02:09] <hggdh> I used to do a lot of evolution, but I am sort of out nowaday, quite busy with the Ubuntu server flavour
[02:09] <hggdh> coreutils
[02:09] <hggdh> and the miscelaneous odds and ends
[02:10] <hggdh> (which is to say, answering questions like yours, etc)
[02:10] <RedSingularity> interesting.....
[02:11] <hggdh> but... I am going AFK, been on the computer for the last 14 hours
[02:11] <RedSingularity> no problem.....talk later :)
[02:11] <RedSingularity> thanks
[02:11] <hggdh> later
[02:13] <rusivi> RedSingularity: From my experience, the best way to go is specialize in bugs of the packages you find interest in. I like VirtualBox & WINE and have regulated those.
[02:14] <RedSingularity> Yeah....or i though about maybe packages that I use on a daily basis......
[02:15] <rusivi> RedSingularity: That is a good way to go.
[02:16] <RedSingularity> Is there a way to "sort" bugs you want to see on launchpad?  I have done it in the past but maybe i am not doing it the *correct* way.  IDK.
[02:17] <RedSingularity> I have been using the default page......https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[02:18] <RedSingularity> And selecting a project
[02:18] <RedSingularity> Is there a more efficient way?
[02:24] <rusivi> RedSingularity: Sure, if you go to the bug list of the package your interested in bugging, you could use the advanced search and have at it.
[02:25] <rusivi> For myself, virtualbox-ose I would start at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-ose
[02:25] <rusivi> then advanced search accordingly.
[02:29] <rusivi> Others in this chat use site search via google.
[02:36] <RedSingularity> Yeah, i like using the google site search for duplicates.  That works great!
[02:46]  * RedSingularity is away: Away at the moment, be back soon.
[03:31]  * RedSingularity is back (gone 00:44:59)
[03:33] <RedSingularity> Is there a command I can use to gather system information from a user?  Operating system information to be exact.
[03:38] <charlie-tca__> as in?
[03:38] <charlie-tca__> if you want the release version, you ask them to run "lsb_release -a"
[03:38] <charlie-tca__> If you want the kernel/linux version you ask for "uname -a"
[03:39] <RedSingularity> lsb_release was what i was looking for!
[03:39] <RedSingularity> great
[10:34] <algnod> Hi all, could someone please set the following to triaged Bug #656763 thanks!
[10:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 656763 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) "The 'Pause' button in Mahjongg doesn't have an icon (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656763
[10:35] <vish> algnod¦ could you forward that bug upstream?
[10:35] <algnod> vish, how do i do that?
[10:36] <vish> !forwarding
[10:36] <ubot2> Factoid 'forwarding' not found
[10:36] <vish> hmm.. ;p
[10:36]  * vish grabs linky
[10:36] <algnod> ok, I will look it up :-)
[10:37] <vish> algnod¦ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/GNOME
[10:38] <vish> algnod¦ do you know what is causing that bug?
[10:41] <vish> algnod¦ not a requirement to know, but it would just be a bonus if you knew! ;)
[10:42] <vish> i should stop talking to ghosts ;p
[11:37] <mortal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/656255 I posted this bug some time ago
[11:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 656255 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "package can not be installed on maverick, limited synaptics functionality (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[11:37] <mortal> it is very annoying
[11:37] <mortal> I can not install maverick on my gf's laptop because of it
[11:53] <AbhiJit> hi
[11:54] <persia> mortal, Please try again.  It installed for me.
[11:54] <AbhiJit> what can be done here?
[11:54] <AbhiJit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yarssr/+bug/656817
[11:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 656817 in yarssr (Ubuntu) "yarssr dont support Devanagari (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[11:54] <AbhiJit> anyone free to do?
[11:54] <mortal> persia: how
[11:56] <mortal> persia: it complains on my system about dependencies
[11:56] <mortal> persia: I am running i386, are you?
[11:56] <persia> mortal, Does `apt-get update` help?
[11:56] <mortal> running
[11:57] <mortal> persia: did you have the same problem
[11:57] <persia> AbhiJit, I suspect someone has to investigate the string handler for the yarssr configuration settings: it probably isn't UTF-8 safe
[11:57] <persia> mortal, Nope.  Installed fine for me
[11:57] <AbhiJit> persia, hmm annything there i can do? or can you suggest me a good rss reader?
[11:58] <mortal> persia: weird
[11:58] <mortal>  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics : Riippuvuudet: xorg-input-abi-11.0
[11:58] <persia> mortal, Unfortunately common, as mirrors pulse and sync.
[11:58] <mortal>                                 Riippuvuudet: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.8.99.905-1ubuntu3) mutta 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.3 o
[11:58] <mortal> persia: I have had that problem for a long time
[12:00] <persia> mortal, very odd.  I really can't reproduce.  No installation issues, and I get xserver-xorg-core 2:1.9.0-0ubuntu7 (which is definitely bigger).
[12:01] <mortal> maybe I need to reinstall xorg
[12:01] <persia> Maybe you need to `apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade`.  I'd recommend asking in #ubuntu+1 for help, as I'm 85% convinced it's a transitional issue that only affects your install.
[12:01] <mortal> persia: did that
[12:01] <mortal> now removing xorg
[12:02] <AbhiJit> persia, thats my bug. anything i can do with it?
[12:02] <persia> AbhiJit, There's heaps of RSS readers: you'd want to try them all.  If you're up for investigating, the key bit is to get the source and look for how it saves and loads the configuration.  You may find lots of useful information by just opening the configuration in a text editor or similar.
[12:02] <mortal> persia: now it works
[12:02] <AbhiJit> persia, ok
[12:02] <persia> mortal, Happens often running prereleases.  Please mark your bug "Invalid".
[12:03] <mortal> how?
[12:03] <AbhiJit> persia, what is OPML?
[12:04] <persia> AbhiJit, My guess would be some sort of XML: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPML may or may not be a useful resource.
[12:04] <AbhiJit> ok
[12:04] <penguin42> Does anyone know how to get amixer values in the same format as apport includes them in sound bugs?
[12:06] <penguin42> ah - no options!
[12:06] <persia> penguin42, heh, also /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/source_alsa-driver.py
[12:06]  * penguin42 spent 5 mins trying to find the right option; answer - no options
[13:18] <layn> Greetings to all
[13:38] <kklimonda> hey, when package craches with apport enabled it stores all the data in /var/crash even if the package isn't "genuine"?
[13:39] <ashams> Hello,
[13:40] <ashams> can any one help me to read the xev output, please :)
[14:33] <badp> Hello, I need help with attaching this bug to the right packages/projects:
[14:33] <badp> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/656855
[14:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 656855 in ubuntu "Desktop icons and the mouse may reside in areas that are covered by no monitor. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[14:36] <bp_> (I'm badp, rebooting other computer to test if kubuntu also has that bug)
[14:58] <penguin42> bp_ I'd say xserver-xorg
[14:59] <bp_> fair enough (I'm currently struggling to use ubuntu-bug under kubuntu to report the different set of problems Kubuntu has)
[15:00] <penguin42> ah, which ones?
[15:01] <bp_> for example, you can drag widgets off screen; the second monitor doesn't run a desktop at all; clicking in the "virtual" area above the main screen brings artifacts
[15:02] <bp_> and you can also have the mouse off screen
[15:02] <bp_> it'd be easier if OpenDNS didn't claim bugs.launchpad.com isn't working
[15:02] <bp_> it'd be easier if ubuntu-bug didn't fail if a rekonq window is already open too.
[15:03] <bp_> *www.bugs.launchpad.com
[15:06] <Pici> bp_: Thats because it doesn't exist. Its launchpad.NET
[15:07] <penguin42> bp_: What's your graphics setup ?
[15:08] <bp_> Pici: sure, that was just a problem with writing the URL from memory.
[15:08] <bp_> penguin42: what would you like to know about it?
[15:08] <bp_> I'm not running any propietary drivers.
[15:09] <bp_> Both Ubuntu and Kubuntu should be using the noveau drivers.
[15:09] <penguin42> ah ok, nouveau, I just wondered if it was a commonish multi display Intel problem
[15:13] <bp_> what's the package behind ubuntu-bug, so I can report the rekonq bug against it?
[15:13] <bp_> apt-cache search ubuntu-bug gives nothing.
[15:14] <penguin42> bp_: dpkg -S says apport
[15:14] <bp_> thanks
[15:52] <flipefr> hello
[15:53] <flipefr> did someboby try to watch videos with firefox in maverick after the upgrade?
[15:55] <charlie-tca> flipefr: I am sure some have tried that. There have been over 200 people running Maverick for some months already in #ubuntu+1
[15:57] <flipefr> charlie-tca: sure, i ask it because is a bug telling that cant play video in firefox 3.6.10 with maverick
[15:57] <charlie-tca> Can you reproduce it?
[15:58] <flipefr> no, becuase i am still using lucyd
[15:58] <flipefr> that's the other reason why i am asking
[15:58] <charlie-tca> If you don't have the ability to reproduce it, leave that bug alone and go to another one. It is better to allow someone else to work those maverick only bugs than to ask about each one here.
[15:59] <flipefr> ok
[15:59] <penguin42> which bug out of interest?
[15:59] <flipefr> but there lots of bug that i dont feel capable of reproduce
[15:59] <flipefr> anyway
[15:59] <flipefr> i leave it
[16:00] <charlie-tca> There are thousands of new bugs, surely you can reproduce some of them?
[16:00] <flipefr> maybe
[16:10] <flipefr> charlie-tca: true, i got another bug very easy to reproduce
[16:10] <flipefr> i marked it as confirmed
[16:12] <flipefr> charlie-tca: could you look at it and assign the importance you beleive it has
[16:12] <flipefr> ?
[16:23] <dyfet> I have a bug that can be marked at least triaged, #656926
[16:24] <hggdh> bug 656926
[16:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 656926 in openocd (Ubuntu) "ftbfs - on maverick fails on armel - sync openocd from debian unstable to universe (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656926
[16:25] <hggdh> dyfet: what Importance you would like there?
[16:25] <dyfet> For armel users medium, everyone else would be low :)
[16:26] <dyfet> That is I feel it should be an update candidate
[16:26] <hggdh> done
[16:26] <hggdh> dyfet: you mean SRU to Maverick?
[16:26] <dyfet> Yes
[16:27] <hggdh> You can set it, by selecting Nominate to Release
[16:27] <flipefr> I have a bug that can be marked at least triaged, #656852
[16:27] <dyfet> ahh...I will do that then...if others disagree they can change it back :)
[16:27] <hggdh> dyfet: sorry, "Target to release"
[16:28] <dyfet> You mean Nominate for??
[16:28] <hggdh> flipefr: if you preceed the bug # by "bug ", this will print here data baout it -- like bug 656852
[16:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 656852 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Nautilus does not copy/cut when using keyboard to find a file (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656852
[16:29] <hggdh> dyfet: on my view it is 'Target to release"....
[16:29] <flipefr> bug 656852
[16:29] <dyfet> Hmm...I see Nominate for release :)
[16:38] <flipefr> bug 656696 should be mark as wishlist, can anybody take a look over it?
[16:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 656696 in gcalctool (Ubuntu) "Horizontal scrolling is a poor solution (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Opinion] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656696
[16:39] <flipefr> bug 656852 should be mark as triaged, can anybody take a look?
[16:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 656852 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Nautilus does not copy/cut when using keyboard to find a file (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656852
[16:43] <hggdh> dyfet: for a release change (I did not look in detail) it is too late for Maverick. We might get it as a backport
[16:44] <penguin42> flipefr: You could upstream that calculator one
[16:44] <hggdh> flipefr:#656696 <- I cannot see it as an opinion
[16:45] <flipefr> hggdh: which status should it has?
[16:46] <penguin42> hggdh: I can kind of, he says their new design is broken which they may not agree with; but I agree with him as well - I think the prominent marker makes sense
[16:46] <hggdh> it should be New, until you can confirm it, then confirmed
[16:46] <hggdh> and -- I agree -- wishlist
[16:46] <flipefr> hggdh:confirmed then
[16:47] <hggdh> flipefr: then please go there and mark it so (just marked it New)
[16:48] <hggdh> penguin42: I agree, also in part. But I do not want to see 'Opinion' abused
[16:49] <penguin42> hggdh: Yeh
[16:49] <penguin42> flipefr: So upstream it
[16:49] <hggdh> yes indeed, upstreaming it would be very good, flipefr
[16:49] <drizzle> does apport work on kde?
[16:49] <hggdh> yes
[16:50] <flipefr> hggdh: i arked it as new, but i dont know hhow to upstream it
[16:52] <hggdh> flipefr: gcalctool is on bugzilla.gnome.org -- so you have to get there, and open a new bug on it (and, pretty much, copy the OP's description
[16:53] <hggdh> flipefr: once you have done that, ping me, and I will look at the b.g.o bug, and tell you what to do next
[16:57] <dyfet> hggdh: backport also could be appropriate.  Actually it effects the most technical users only (which happens to be a majority of the armel users presently ;), and with them knowing they simply can rebuild the package from sid successfully if needed, they probably will simply do that.  I thought it was a good update candidate in part because it's also a more trivial one only requiring a sync...
[16:57] <flipefr> hggdh: I created an account but dont know where to put the bug
[16:58] <hggdh> flipefr: you want to File a Bug;
[16:58] <flipefr> ok
[16:59] <flipefr> and now?
[16:59] <hggdh> you will be now asked on what; click on the "all" link, and search for gcalctool; click on it
[17:00] <penguin42> dyfet: It's just the build on armel? I guess most openocd users are driving the openocd on a PC driving an ARM on the other end
[17:00] <flipefr> hggdh:done
[17:01] <flipefr> hggdh: i paste the op's text in description
[17:02] <flipefr> hggdh: put severitu as normal, os as linux
[17:02] <hggdh> now -- as the FIRST line in the b.g.o description, add: "original Ubuntu bug: <the link for the UBuntu bug"
[17:02] <hggdh> flipefr: correct. Now, what version of gcalctool?
[17:03] <charlie-tca> This helps with those upstream reports - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream
[17:04] <flipefr> hggdh: done, the version is 5.32
[17:04] <flipefr> hggdh: i marked it
[17:04] <hggdh> what is the bug #?
[17:05] <flipefr> 656696
[17:06] <hggdh> gnome bug 656696
[17:06] <hggdh> flipefr: I meant the Gnome bug #...
[17:07] <flipefr> hggdh: i didn't make commit
[17:07] <flipefr> yet
[17:08] <dyfet> penguin42: yes, arm specific only
[17:08] <penguin42> dyfet: Yeh I guess it's pretty rare to be running it that way
[17:08] <dyfet> (host)
[17:09] <dyfet> penguin42: hmm....that may well be true...then yes, it should actually be low priority
[17:09] <dyfet> and could keep until 11.04 :)
[17:09] <penguin42> Can anyone suggest what should be done with bug 636329 ?
[17:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 636329 in gimp (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Gimp won't print preview (affects: 11) (heat: 62)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636329
[17:10] <penguin42> It's actually gimp won't print at all; that seems worthy of at least a mention in a Known Issues, and maybe an early update - any suggestions as to what to do?
[17:11] <charlie-tca> gimp prints here
[17:11] <penguin42> charlie-tca: Really?!
[17:11] <flipefr> hggdh: gnome number 620643
[17:11] <charlie-tca> printed several things out of it directly on maverick
[17:11] <penguin42> charlie-tca: can you pastebin a dpkg -l \*gimp\* ?
[17:12] <flipefr> hggdh: i committed it but i dont know if this the right number
[17:12] <flipefr> how can i find the bugs i opened
[17:13] <hggdh> I am on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620643
[17:13] <ubot2> Gnome bug 620643 in Touchpad "Horizontal Scrolling Broken" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[17:13] <hggdh> flipefr: but I see no description at all, and no link to the Ubuntu bug
[17:13] <flipefr> hggdh: because that is not my bug
[17:13] <penguin42> charlie-tca: Think is I've got multiple people on there who've all had the problem and a confirmed fix that fixes it
[17:13] <flipefr> i mistake the number
[17:14] <flipefr> hggdh: how can i find the bug number now?
[17:14] <hggdh> flipefr: well, did you commit your bug, or not?
[17:14] <charlie-tca> penguin42: okay
[17:14] <flipefr> i commit it
[17:14] <flipefr> comitted
[17:14] <flipefr> hggdh: the sumary is horizontal scrolling
[17:15] <flipefr> hggdh: to make a search
[17:15] <charlie-tca> penguin42: http://paste.ubuntu.com/508892/
[17:15] <penguin42> charlie-tca: Hmm you're running with gutenprint - I'm not and I don't think the others were either
[17:16] <charlie-tca> gutenprint is what makes gimp print, isn't it?
[17:16] <penguin42> charlie-tca: Well, it seems more complex than that
[17:16] <penguin42> charlie-tca: Without gutenprint it just prints through the normal gnome print stuff
[17:17] <flipefr> hggdh: is there any way to see my own bugs?
[17:17] <penguin42> charlie-tca: With gutenprint I think it will produce the bitstream for the printer itself
[17:17] <charlie-tca> I didn't think it prints without gutenprint. With it, it just works
[17:17] <flipefr> hggdh:that's frustrating
[17:17] <penguin42> charlie-tca: Yeh well in Lucid it did print without gutenprint and with the 2 line fix in there it also does
[17:18] <flipefr> hggdh: the sumary is "horizontal scrolling in gcalctool"
[17:19] <flipefr> hggdh: i found it 631688
[17:20] <hggdh> flipefr: thank you. Just a sec
[17:20] <flipefr> hggdh: gnome bug 631688
[17:20] <ubot2> Gnome bug 631688 in general "horizontal scrolling in gcalctool" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=631688
[17:20] <hggdh> flipefr: perfect! Now
[17:21] <flipefr> hggdh: thank you
[17:21] <penguin42> charlie-tca: OK, this is curious, so I've installed gimp-gutenprint and on my File menu on gimp I now have 2 options, Print and Print with gutenprint; selecting Print still produces a blank preview for me, gutenprint is separate
[17:21] <hggdh> flipefr: on the Ubuntu bug, click on "Also affects project", and add the link for the b.g.o bug
[17:21] <flipefr> hggdh: what about the other bug 656852
[17:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 656852 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Nautilus does not copy/cut when using keyboard to find a file (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656852
[17:21] <flipefr> bug 656852
[17:22] <hggdh> flipefr: we are not yet done with the first bug
[17:22] <flipefr> hggdh: i thought it was, what's next?
[17:23] <charlie-tca> lets release note it, then, at least anybody reading them would know to try gutenprint, right/A
[17:23] <charlie-tca> ?
[17:23] <hggdh>  hggdh | flipefr: on the Ubuntu bug, click on "Also affects project", and add the link for the b.g.o bug
[17:24] <penguin42> charlie-tca: Yeh it makes sense - is there a way to suggest it gets into an update? It's a 2 line fix that the upstream guys have done and are getting into the next point release
[17:24] <flipefr> hggdh: done
[17:25] <charlie-tca> It should update for natty then, shouldn't it?
[17:25] <charlie-tca> With gimp not in Ubuntu by default, it takes a SRU or backport to update it in maverick
[17:26] <hggdh> flipefr: Cool. Now we can (and I have just done it) mark this Ubuntu bug as Triaged
[17:26] <hggdh> flipefr: congratulations, you have just upstreamed a bug!
[17:26] <penguin42> charlie-tca: Yeh I guess so, it's still a 'main' package
[17:26] <flipefr> hggdh: thanks again
[17:28] <flipefr> hggdh: and now, can you see the other bug #656852
[17:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 656852 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Nautilus does not copy/cut when using keyboard to find a file (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656852
[17:30] <pedro_> that looks like a duplicate
[17:31] <charlie-tca> !info gimp
[17:31] <ubot2> charlie-tca: gimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.8-2ubuntu1.1 (lucid), package size 4309 kB, installed size 12552 kB
[17:31]  * charlie-tca thought it was universe now
[17:34] <pedro_> flipefr, that works fine in Maverick for me, can you confirm it on Maverick as well?
[17:34] <hggdh> flipefr: oh, BTW, the OP's language seems to be Portuguese, not Spanish ;-)
[17:34] <hggdh> pedro_: thank you for taking over, I am not sure I understand what it is about...
[17:35] <micahg> charlie-tca: no, it's still seeded as well apparently
[17:35] <pedro_> hggdh, looks like it's about using ctrl+c on the nautilus find dialog, works fine here though, it indeed copy/paste the file
[17:36] <hggdh> oh OK
[17:36]  * pedro_ back to iso testing
[17:36] <flipefr> pedro_: i can't confirm it in maverick, but i confirm it in lycyd, and the bug is described in lucyd
[17:36] <pedro_> flipefr, then the bug is fixed on Maverick
[17:36] <pedro_> flipefr, it's a small issue and not likely to be a candidate to SRU
[17:37] <flipefr> hggdh: i thought with the name luis eduardo he would be spanish, it is a novel name, like a romantic hero xd
[17:37] <pedro_> flipefr, please comment on the report saying that you can't reproduce it on Maverick and ask for testing on that release to the reporter or just mark it as fix released
[17:37] <pedro_> either is fine
[17:40] <dyfet> bug 640572 can be triaged.  It involves a security vulnerability.
[17:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 640572 in moodle (Ubuntu) "Please Merge Moodle 1.9.4 in Maverick with Debian Unstable 1.9.9 - active security vulnerability (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/640572
[17:40] <flipefr> pedro_: done, i post a comment telling it dont happen in maverick and asking him for a test
[17:40] <pedro_> flipefr, thank you
[17:41] <nigelb> hi flipefr
[17:41] <nigelb> sorry, had a long week.
[17:42] <nigelb> I'm glad you're asking in the channel for help :)
[17:42] <pedro_> flipefr, btw when you ask something to the reporter like test in another release you should mark the bug as Incomplete
[17:42] <flipefr> pedro_: done
[17:43] <pedro_> thanks again ;-)
[17:43] <flipefr> nigelb: i always do
[17:43] <flipefr> pedro_: nothing
[17:43] <nigelb> flipefr: :)
[17:46] <hggdh> dyfet: since this is a security vulnerability, I would feel better if we wait for the sec folks to look at it first
[17:46] <hggdh> (although I think this would be triaged as well)
[17:46] <dyfet> hggdh: ok :)
[17:54] <enav> my volume control is not working  in a linear way...  this mean [123456]   instead of this is working like this [24655]   this could be defined as bug?...  btw im using 10.04 and i did't have this problem on 9.10
[17:54] <penguin42> enav: If it doesn't work right it's a bug!
[17:56] <enav> i reach the maximum volume at 1/4 longitud of the volume control and those 3/4 does nothing
[17:58] <penguin42> enav: I'm sure I've seen something similar
[18:00] <penguin42> enav: I could swear I reported a bug very similar to it but I can't find it
[18:00] <penguin42> ah
[18:00] <penguin42> enav: Bug 508733
[18:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 508733 in gnome-media (Ubuntu) "volume control app operates over ~25% of range (affects: 2) (heat: 17)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/508733
[18:00] <enav> i do some test in another computer and the volume control works fine... the problem must be driver related
[18:02] <enav> what i need to do  submit my machine specifications?
[18:03] <penguin42> enav: Probably follow the stuff in here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[18:05] <enav> no i mean co collaborate on the solution is a good idea submit my machine specifications?
[18:07] <penguin42> yeh, probably stuff from /proc/asound/cards and /proc/asound/card*/codec*
[18:17] <hggdh> given this is about the sound stack, it is better to open a new bug (unless you have verified, and your hardware exactly matches the OP's)
[18:17] <hggdh> BTW, chances are it does not match ;-)
[18:20] <JFo> in the vast majority of cases it won't
[18:22] <penguin42> can someone look at bug 615077
[18:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 615077 in virtinst (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 8 other projects) "[Maverick] SDL local window broken in last update (affects: 7) (dups: 2) (heat: 50)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615077
[18:22] <penguin42> I merged bug 656531 as a dupe, but he seems to be triggering it without the higher levels, yet Jamie StrandBoge has just closed the task against qemu-kvm as invalid saying it's only the upper layers - I'm not sure that's true or not
[18:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 656531 in libvirt (Ubuntu) "libvirt unable to start VM with SDL display (dup-of: 615077)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656531
[19:08] <jelabarre> wanted to check if anyone had seen this particular bug in the RC install for 10.10 (couldn't find it on launchpad).
[19:08] <jelabarre> I did a fresh install from DVD (but preserved my home partition), and was reading some news articles while the install was running. When the install finished I was still reading, so I dismissed the "reboot" dialog (electing to continue working).  Now that I'm ready to reboot into the newly installed system, I don't see an option in the menus to reboot, only to lock screen, suspend or hibernate.
[19:10] <penguin42> jelabarre: I could swear I've seen someone else say they've seen that
[19:10]  * penguin42 hasn't though
[19:10]  * penguin42 disappears for a few mins
[19:20] <jelabarre> I haven't run a reboot on it yet, if there's a way to grab the install log (unless it's already been copied to the HDD already)
[19:29] <mrand> jelabarre: no option to logout?
[19:30] <jelabarre> nope
[19:33] <jelabarre> should be something under either the "System" menu, or the "Power" menu.  Nothing on either
[19:34] <jelabarre> granted, *I* know how to do a reboot, but I'm concerned about "newbie" users
[19:36] <AbhiJit> bye
[19:40] <mrand> jelabarre: I remember seeing a bug on that a long while back.  Unfortunate it hasn't been addressed.
[19:41] <mrand> Bug 515139 is one, but I think it was a different one.
[19:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 515139 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) "Icons from gnome panel are missing at random on startup (affects: 4) (heat: 22)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/515139
[19:46] <jelabarre> random failure, just love those.  I suppose this would have to be tried on a system that doesn't have a pre-existing /home partition.  Probably should finish this setup and do another test install in a VM and see if I can duplicate it.
[19:47] <mrand> jelabarre: I found a forum thread discussing it, but no bug yet.
[19:51] <penguin42> jelabarre: Someone just asked on +1 about a similar failure with misisng shutdown etc
[19:51] <penguin42> ah, they have them they just don't work
[19:55] <micahg> jelabarre: have you checked in #ubuntu-testing?
[19:57] <jelabarre> could ask there.
[20:04] <mrand> It's been a random problem for some time now - certainly nothing unique to 10.10
[20:04] <micahg> oh, hmm
[20:15] <Darxus> Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/universe libplot2c2 2.6-0ubuntu1 [936kB]
[20:16] <Darxus> ^ That wasn't on mit.edu's mirror.
[20:16] <Darxus> E: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/plotutils/libplot2c2_2.6-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb: 404  Not Found
[20:26] <hggdh> Darxus: and?
[20:26] <hggdh> we do not control MIT's mirror...
[20:27] <Darxus> I just emailed the people who do.
[20:29] <hggdh> Darxus: meanwhile, this may help: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[20:29] <micahg> ubuntu3 is the current version, that's why you get the 404
[20:30] <micahg> Darxus: ^^
[20:30] <micahg> hggdh: ^^
[20:31] <hggdh> micahg: yes, this would be a good enough reason ;-)
[20:40] <Darxus> Except that I did an aptitude update right before that.
[20:42] <Darxus> I suppose hugin could have a broken dependancy.
[20:43] <Darxus> libplot2c2 2.6-0ubuntu1 is the one that ended up getting installed when I switched to the main archives.
[20:44] <Darxus> micahg: Ah, ubuntu3 is the latest for maverick, but I'm running lucid, which is ubuntu1.
[20:46] <hggdh> Darxus: indeed
[20:51] <dyfet> Bug 607896 can be triaged
[20:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 607896 in griffith (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Please sync Griffith 0.12-1 from Debian (unstable) to Maverick - updated dependency (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607896
[20:54] <micahg> Darxus: ah, yeah, that would be a mirror issue then :)
[20:55] <BUGabundo> evening
[21:02] <Darxus> Yeah.  I mostly mentioned it here because I wanted to mention it somewhere before I forgot about it.
[21:12] <hggdh> BUGabundo: boas
[21:12] <BUGabundo> ola hggdh
[21:16] <charlie-tca> Hello, BUGabundo
[21:18] <BUGabundo> hey charlie-tca
[21:31] <devildante> hey guys :)
[21:34] <charlie-tca> hello, devildante
[21:34] <devildante> hi charlie-tca :)
[21:37]  * devildante brb rebooting
[22:36] <dyfet> I think bug 657024 can be marked as triaged
[22:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 657024 in ziproxy (Ubuntu) "please sync/merge 3.1.3-1 from debian (unstable) to Maverick (universe) - security vulnerability (affects: 1) (heat: 262)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/657024
[22:36] <dyfet> already reviewed by security team
[22:38] <dyfet> same for bug 657035
[22:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 657035 in babiloo (Ubuntu) "please sync from debian (unstable) 2.0.11-1 - security vulnerability (affects: 1) (heat: 260)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/657035
[23:48] <Tetsuo55> huh? where did all my bugs go?
[23:50] <Tetsuo55> did something change on launchpad
[23:50] <Tetsuo55> ?
[23:50] <Tetsuo55> nevermind, i seem to be logged out for some reason
[23:50] <penguin42> mine are still there - any particular ones?
[23:53] <wgrant> Tetsuo55: Some DB maintenance yesterday caused most people to be logged out.
[23:54] <Tetsuo55> that maintenance thing must be it
[23:54] <Tetsuo55> another question
[23:55] <Tetsuo55> why doesnt this bug show up in my list? 612816
[23:55] <Tetsuo55> im affected and subscribed, but i dont see it when i look at my related bugs list
[23:55] <Tetsuo55> bug 612816
[23:55] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 612816 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[MASTER] [gm45] GPU lockup 493062ea (EIR: 0x00000010 PGTBL_ER: 0x00000001) (affects: 8) (dups: 5) (heat: 114)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612816
[23:56] <penguin42> Tetsuo55: Does it show up in your subscribed list?
[23:56] <Tetsuo55> no it doesnt
[23:57] <penguin42> interesting since you appear to be subscribed by a dupe
[23:57] <penguin42> maybe ask in #launchpad
[23:59] <Tetsuo55> ok
[23:59] <penguin42> ask and stick around, it's not normally very lively in there