[00:06] <RAOF> Ah, the joys of crazy keyboards.
[04:24] <desrt> so what's the story with builds that target atom?
[04:24] <desrt> is there an atom installer?
[04:30]  * desrt learns that it is pointless
[04:32] <RAOF> There isn't enough of a performance win, is there?  We dropped the lpia architecture... in Lucid?
[04:32] <desrt> ya.  i'm reading that
[04:33] <desrt> i got a nice dualproc atom machine for my dad to replace his aging desktop
[04:33] <desrt> but the atom machine underperforms compared to the old p4.  sad.
[04:34] <RAOF> Yeah.  In-order processors suck :)
[04:35] <desrt> ah.  not superscalar?
[04:35] <desrt> lame :p
[04:36] <RAOF> Yeah.  That's where Intel cut out power: all that instruction re-ordering and instruction window and tracking silicon :)
[04:37] <desrt> a good place to cut, to be honest
[04:37] <desrt> that stuff is complicated
[04:37] <desrt> pipelining is bad enough...
[04:38] <RAOF> But does have a significant per-thread performance increase.
[04:38] <desrt> i'm not seriously suggesting that pipelining be eliminated
[04:38] <desrt> just that it is complicated
[04:38] <desrt> absolutely no doubt worth it, though
[04:39] <RAOF> Yeah.  If you're main goal is low power, damn the performance, it's a good place to snip.
[04:40] <desrt> i wonder how my dad would react to unity
[05:39] <Amaranth> RAOF: Although ARM is doing superscalar with lower power
[05:40] <RAOF> Right, with the A11(?{
[05:40] <RAOF> (?)
[05:40] <RAOF> Although that's also approximately an Atom's worth of power consumption, too, isn't it?
[05:40] <Amaranth> Don't remember what they call it, not supposed to be out until 2015 or something so the numbers are just made up so far
[07:04] <asac> anyone knows if rick is on vacation this week?
[07:04] <asac> err travelling or something i mean ;)
[07:05] <nisshh> asac, i think he is travelling
[07:07] <micahg> asac: in Europe somewhere
[07:10] <RAOF> On his way to London, I presumed.
[07:11] <pitti> Good morning
[07:13] <asac> hey pitti
[07:13] <pitti> hey asac, how are you?
[07:14] <asac> quite good ;)
[07:14] <asac> pitti: are you back on desktop?
[07:15] <pitti> asac: no, not yet; at UDS
[07:16] <asac> great.
[07:16] <micahg> asac: so you're the multimedia track lead?
[07:16] <pitti> but they didn't forbid me to say hello to my old pals :)
[07:16] <asac> micahg: thats what i am currently trying to hunt down. afaik its graphics/multimedia ;)
[07:16] <asac> haha
[07:52] <asac> mvo: !!
[07:52] <asac> mvo: megapacks ftw ;)
[07:54] <mvo> hi asac
[08:05] <YokoZar> mvo: any chance I can send you some last minute app-install-data updates
[08:07] <mvo> YokoZar: yes, for -update :)
[08:07] <mvo> YokoZar: the release team will come down on me with furry if I upload that to -final :)
[08:07] <YokoZar> fair nuff
[08:07] <mvo> but I'm happy to do a updated package for maverick-updates
[08:14] <bilalakhtar> Where is robert ancell? Didn't see him for quite a while now
[08:14] <mvo> bilalakhtar: afaik he is on vacation
[08:15] <mvo> probably surfing ;)
[08:15] <mvo> didrocks: is robert on vacation?
[08:15] <didrocks> good morning :)
[08:15] <mvo> good morning!
[08:15] <mvo> (where are my manners?)
[08:15] <didrocks> mvo: until Monday
[08:15] <didrocks> ahah :-)
[08:16] <bilalakhtar> okay, thanks mvo
[08:59] <duanedesign> didrocks: not sure who to ask... you would not happen to know what is the best way to get colored rows in a liststore (or table) in pyGTK?
[09:02] <seb128> hello
[09:04] <duanedesign> didrocks: aha! think i got it :)
[09:06] <didrocks> salut seb128
[09:07] <didrocks> duanedesign: hey :)
[09:07] <seb128> lut didrocks
[09:07] <didrocks> duanedesign: sorry, I'm testing the iso, did it work?
[09:13] <asac> didrocks: how is unity started in the unity session?
[09:14] <asac> the upstream team does not know what the right way to start unity is it seems :-P *cough*
[09:15] <asac> they say that its mutter --plugins=libunity-mutter ... but that works for us, while starting unity itself crashes here (and also if you start unity from session)
[09:18] <duanedesign> didrocks:  i think i am headed down the right path. thank you, and good luck with your testing
[09:19] <didrocks> duanedesign: thanks a lot, have fun :)
[09:19] <didrocks> hey asac.
[09:19] <asac> hola didrocks
[09:19] <asac> seb128: where is rick atm? london?
[09:19] <didrocks> asac: the right way is the way "the session does?"
[09:19] <seb128> asac, release sprint in london yes
[09:20] <didrocks> asac: in the unity session, you don't have to define --mutter-plugins
[09:20] <asac> didrocks: we cannot debug the full session
[09:20] <seb128> asac, well rather meetings sprint to discuss next cycle it seems
[09:20] <didrocks> thre is a gconf key for that
[09:20] <asac> didrocks: we need to know how to start it from a command line
[09:20] <didrocks> asac: sure, if you are in the UNE session, just mutter --replace
[09:21] <didrocks> asac: if not, it's mutter --replace --mutter-plugins=/usr/lib/mutter/plugins/libunity-mutter.so
[09:21] <asac> didrocks: sorry. thats not what i am asking for. i want to start Xorg ... and then manually start unity
[09:21] <asac> didrocks: right. but that is not correct
[09:21] <didrocks> why?
[09:21] <asac> didrocks: because mutter --replace --mutter-plugins=/usr/lib/mutter/plugins/libunity-mutter.so works for us
[09:21] <asac> and session crashes ;)
[09:21] <didrocks> hum…
[09:21] <asac> so its not the same
[09:22] <asac> :-P
[09:22] <didrocks> asac: ok, maybe the difference is in the code path
[09:22] <didrocks> asac: so, the session is specifying a gconf key
[09:22] <didrocks> one sec
[09:22] <asac> if possible, please get me the exact command and env the session is running ;)
[09:22] <didrocks> asac: look at /usr/share/gconf/une/mandatory/20_une-gconf-mandatory
[09:23] <didrocks> asac: mutter is a GNOME required_component (as the wm target)
[09:23] <didrocks> then, it's loading unity because we ask to load libunity-mutter from clutter_plugins
[09:23] <didrocks> asac: so, I would say, to have this code path and be as closed to the session as possible
[09:24] <didrocks> set /apps/mutter/general/clutter_plugins [libunity-mutter]
[09:24] <didrocks> then, try just mutter --replace
[09:24] <asac> in a full session?
[09:24] <didrocks> yeah, in a full session
[09:24] <asac> i really want the command to start this manually from raw X
[09:24] <asac> so i guess "gnome-session" ?
[09:25] <didrocks> asac: ok, if you want to start gnome-session manually, you can set also those keys: /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager mutter and /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/panel ''
[09:25] <didrocks> (so that mutter is started with gnome-session)
[09:25] <didrocks> and to start gnome-session, one sec
[09:26] <didrocks> asac: write $STARTUP from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99x11-common_start in a file, and you will have the exact command to launch your GNOME session from raw X
[09:34] <asac> thanks
[09:37] <didrocks> asac: yw. Do not hesitate if you have issues to launch it, but that's how I launch it at the very beginning to test my session stuff :)
[09:41] <asac> right
[09:41] <asac> alf is trying things now
[09:41] <asac> didrocks: problem is that we cant get a backtrace when starting unity ... and mutter works with unity plugin :((
[09:42] <asac> but dont bother. we will figure. thanks for all the info. will probably help us
[09:45] <didrocks> asac: hope so :-) good luck and keep me in touch. Apart from the codepath being different when using the gconf key to tell "load me that plugin" and the command line providing it directly (yeah, I know, it's weird but it's loaded at a different time…), I don't really see what can interfere for you
[09:45] <seb128> asac, use apport to get a backtrace?
[09:47] <asac> seb128: well. ppas dont produce dbgsym yet :((
[09:48] <asac> and all on top of clutter is highly improved over what is in archive ... e.g. clutk has a gles2 backend etc.
[09:49] <asac> didrocks: do you know what the unity command is useful for? seems its not used anywhere, right?
[09:49] <asac> is that just a misleading thing?
[09:52] <didrocks> asac: it's mostly for testing locally, without clutter
[09:52] <didrocks> asac: unity -p should launch unity in a window mode
[09:52] <didrocks> you will have GL effect on quicklist and places
[09:52] <didrocks> but no mutter/clutter
[09:53] <didrocks> (and you can click on indicators for fun and see them appearing on top of the screen :))
[09:56] <seb128> asac, well do local builds?
[09:56] <seb128> or let didrocks figure a way ;-)
[10:09] <Zdra> seb128, do you know ~when can we expect a gtk3 package in maverick+1 ?
[10:09] <Zdra> or is there already one?
[10:09] <seb128> Zdra, not really
[10:10] <seb128> Zdra, we were sort of waiting for the debian one to be uploaded but seems slomo doesn't have time for it and nobody else picked it up yet
[10:10] <seb128> well let's maverick be out first then we will see
[10:10] <Zdra> seb128, empathy now depends on it
[10:11] <Zdra> for the 2.90.x
[10:11] <seb128> right, well we didn't start on 2.90 yet
[10:11] <Zdra> yeah, right, maverick is not out yet
[10:11] <seb128> but we will get that in when required
[10:11] <seb128> likely before the end of this month I would say
[10:11]  * Zdra forgot that detail, I'm already moved to maverick :P
[10:11] <Zdra> seb128, thx :)
[10:12] <seb128> time to get maverick out, next cycle to start and buildchain in place etc and UDS over
[10:12] <seb128> we might get some builds available for testing before it lands officially though
[10:12] <seb128> I will let you know
[10:12] <seb128> brb session restart
[10:37] <Cimi> didrocks: hi!
[10:37] <didrocks> hey Cimi :)
[10:38] <Cimi> could I talk with you for unity-related bugs?
[10:38] <Cimi> for example, unity failing with newtwitter on a netbook screen? :)
[10:40] <chrisccoulson> hey pitti. i'm not sure what to do about bug 629258
[10:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 629258 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Battery life estimation never comes around (affects: 24) (dups: 1) (heat: 98)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/629258
[10:40] <chrisccoulson> that's going to suck for quite a few users
[10:41] <Cimi> didrocks: ^^
[10:46] <seb128> rickspencer3, hey
[10:46] <rickspencer3> hi seb128
[10:46] <seb128> asac, ^
[10:47] <didrocks> Cimi: sure, failing how? :-)
[10:47] <didrocks> hey rickspencer3
[10:47] <rickspencer3> hi didrocks
[10:47] <rickspencer3> seb128, didrocks ISO tracker results look good so far
[10:47] <rickspencer3> great job!
[10:47] <seb128> yes
[10:47] <seb128> thanks ;-)
[10:48] <didrocks> thanks :)
[10:48] <rickspencer3> I guess it looks like it's time for me to step in and take credit for a great release
[10:48] <rickspencer3> ;)
[10:48] <didrocks> Cimi: is it in the repo? I can't find newtwitter
[10:48] <didrocks> rickspencer3: of course :-)
[10:48] <rickspencer3> ^a little lesson in management for you guys
[10:48] <rickspencer3> :)
[10:48] <didrocks> heh
[10:49] <seb128> rickspencer3, ;-)
[10:53] <asac> hi rickspencer3
[10:54] <asac> rickspencer3: arrived in europe? i sent you a mail yesterday and think i need some sync
[11:03] <rickspencer3> hi asac
[11:03] <rickspencer3> asac, anmar or kiko is the track lead for graphics/multi-media
[11:09] <asac> rickspencer3: i was listed there. so that was the mistake?
[11:10] <asac> rickspencer3: i think i am supposed to do that ... but kiko is gone this week
[11:10] <rickspencer3> asac, hmm, maybe I was wrong, I don't know why I thought it was anmar
[11:10] <rickspencer3> asac, anyway, in terms of how to work summit, etc.. I'm sure jcastro would love to help you
[11:10] <asac> rickspencer3: i am basically leading grpahics/middleware atm ... so it makes sense. but noone talkedto me
[11:10] <Cimi> didrocks: new twitter
[11:10] <asac> rickspencer3: i want to know who i should reach out to for getting specs from ubuntu dx etc.
[11:10] <Cimi> didrocks: the website :-P
[11:11] <rickspencer3> asac, I see
[11:11] <didrocks> Cimi: ok, I don't use twitter, what's your issue?
[11:11] <rickspencer3> I think jcastro and jono will help ou the best
[11:11] <asac> rickspencer3: and how that is supposd to work ...
[11:11] <asac> rickspencer3: ok will sync with jorge and then see
[11:11] <Cimi> didrocks: just like facebook, it doesn't fit in the page
[11:11] <Cimi> didrocks: because they are both designed to use 1024px of width
[11:11] <asac> enjoy
[11:11] <Cimi> didrocks: it's their fault, of course
[11:12] <bilalakhtar> rickspencer3: Is there some way to join the post-release app review board now?
[11:12] <Cimi> didrocks: but this indirectly makes unity requires some sort of "fix" for the launcher
[11:13] <didrocks> Cimi: if you use you browser fullscreen, the launcher should hide
[11:13] <Cimi> davidbarth: sabdfl: hi guys. I've fixed the remaining visual bugs of the indicator-messages (alignment and dimension of the right label plus empty labels) here's a screenshot: http://imgur.com/EHETK.png
[11:14] <Cimi> everything is in bazaar
[11:15] <bilalakhtar> :( ^^
[11:15] <Cimi> didrocks: are you suggesting me to use F11 on a netbook in order to use social networks? :-)
[11:16] <Cimi> didrocks: this is not a solution :-)
[11:16] <didrocks> Cimi: sure, but the launcher not disappearing is a known bug which won't be fixed because Natty :)
[11:17] <didrocks> Cimi: another solution is to use gwibber and make kenvandine happy ;-)
[11:17] <bilalakhtar> and, just to disappoint ken
[11:17] <bilalakhtar> I moved from Gwibber to NewTwitter just now
[11:17] <bilalakhtar> :()
[11:32] <sabdfl> lovely Cimi
[11:32] <davidbarth> Cimi: ok, i'll attach that to the code review
[11:32] <sabdfl> has there been any discussion about landing that in 10.10 SRU?
[11:34] <davidbarth> sabdfl: it's on the sru list, but now it's late for a zero-day one
[11:34] <sabdfl> no need for it to be 0-day
[11:37] <davidbarth> ok, the latest changes seem fine in all of the cases the menu has to account for, ie particular application icons
[11:37] <Cimi> davidbarth: I already replied to the code review
[11:37] <Cimi> davidbarth: yeah I just don't draw the label when the pangolayout is empty
[11:38] <Cimi> davidbarth: and I'm shrinking the size accordingly to the pangolayout's size
[11:38] <davidbarth> Cimi: right, seen that
[11:38] <davidbarth> Cimi: however, there is another difference i had no spotted, in that the time indications are not decorated in otto's designs
[11:38] <Cimi> davidbarth: only thing I'm not sure is about using g_object_unref for some elements
[11:39] <davidbarth> Cimi: whereas we're decorating both the message counters and the time indications in the right column
[11:39] <Cimi> davidbarth: yeah, just give me an API or a signal that I can send to the drawing code
[11:40] <Cimi> davidbarth: something like "here please don't draw the fill"
[11:40] <davidbarth> Cimi: yup, that'll need to be another code change
[11:42] <Cimi> davidbarth: what about freeing memory with gobject_unref?
[11:43] <Cimi> davidbarth: could you tell me when it's required?
[11:50] <RAOF> pitti: Perfectly reasonable to discuss this here.
[11:50] <pitti> or that
[11:51] <pitti> so, event2 seems innocuous
[11:51] <pitti> that's just the normal keys
[11:51] <RAOF> Yup.
[11:51] <pitti> event3 is the hotkeys one which has a crazy event mask
[11:51] <RAOF> Right.  It's got itself a silly number of axes, and a button.
[11:52] <pitti> so, there's two things here:
[11:52] <pitti> 1) input3 has those crazy event masks
[11:52] <pitti> which will cause misidentification, and creation of extra joystick/mouse devices
[11:52] <pitti> 2) something synthesizes actual mouse-ish events on keypresses
[11:52] <pitti> and these _don't_ happen on input/event3
[11:56] <pitti> RAOF: followed up with another test
[11:56] <RAOF> Ah, ok.  I hadn't seen your debugging on the bug.
[13:44] <cyphermox> hello :)
[13:45] <cyphermox> hey mterry
[13:45] <mterry> cyphermox, hi!
[13:45] <cyphermox> mvo: I found what was broken in synaptic following the porting, now it doesn't crash, I just need to fix some issues with signals I apparently didn't connect properly
[13:54] <chrisccoulson> mvo - if a package declares a Breaks on another package, will that Breaks also apply to other packages that Provide the broken package?
[13:54] <chrisccoulson> (i hope that makes sense)
[13:55] <chrisccoulson> eg, if mozilla-packagekit "Breaks" firefox-3.0, will it also Break firefox, which Provides firefox-3.0?
[13:59] <mvo> cyphermox: yeah, I noticed that this morning, I was excited to see it come up!
[14:00] <mvo> cyphermox: did you try to open it in glade and save it again? window_main.ui ? it seems like its eating all of the UIManager stuff if I do that :/ or is that just a problem with my version of glade or something (should be stock maverick)
[14:00] <cyphermox> it's awesome. just more of a let down after that when you see no menus work ;)
[14:01] <cyphermox> mvo: I'll give it a shot now
[14:01] <mvo> cyphermox: cool
[14:01] <mvo> cyphermox: yeah, the menus are really odd, I wonder why it converted to uimanager instead of "normal" menus
[14:02] <mvo> cyphermox: especially since glade seems to not support uimanager menu editing :/
[14:02] <cyphermox> mvo: but I didn't use glade to convert, I used gtk-builder-convert
[14:04] <mvo> cyphermox: aha, ok
[14:08]  * kenvandine fixed gwibber notifications for facebook last night, i wonder if that was a good idea... sucks getting notifications for these silly facebook apps 
[14:08] <kenvandine> gotta find a way to filter that junk out
[14:10] <chrisccoulson> mvo - i just tried updating my lucid KVM with update-manager, and i've just had the "Install button does nothing" problem that I mentioned to you a while back, but couldn't recreate
[14:10] <chrisccoulson> mvo - http://paste.ubuntu.com/508771/
[14:15] <mvo> chrisccoulson: what does "ls -l /var/lib/apt/periodic/" show? a time very close to now?
[14:16] <chrisccoulson> mvo - reasonably. the timestamp is from about 25 minutes ago
[14:17] <mvo> chrisccoulson: I have a theory
[14:19] <mvo> chrisccoulson: I think I have a fix in bzr now
[14:21] <chrisccoulson> mvo - excellent!
[14:23] <mvo> chrisccoulson: if you put the backtrace in a bugreport, I will prepare a sru
[14:23] <chrisccoulson> mvo - ok, no problem. thanks :-)
[14:24] <chrisccoulson> my girlfriend will have no excuses for not updating the desktop machine then ;)
[14:24] <mvo> thank you :)
[14:28] <hallyn> Sarvatt: trying out compiz with nouveau today - works like a charm!
[14:28] <hallyn> (so far :)
[14:28] <chrisccoulson> mvo - ok, bug 656881
[14:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 656881 in update-manager (Ubuntu) ""Install" button sometimes doesn't do anything (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656881
[14:47] <OwaisL> hello folks, is maverick final shipping with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/647039
[14:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 647039 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Using unity-launcher crashes Unity and causes a reload. (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Critical,Triaged]
[14:47] <OwaisL> i don't see any updates
[14:49] <seb128> hi OwaisL, guess it is since iso are being tested and will not be rolled again for non blocker bugs
[14:50] <OwaisL> seb128, mean I'll not be able to use Unity. sigh!! :-(
[14:51] <OwaisL> seb128, are you aware of the progress on this one?
[14:51] <seb128> didrocks, ^
[14:51] <seb128> didrocks is maintaining unity and UNE
[15:03] <didrocks> hum, he is not there
[15:28] <Cimi> davidbarth: skype? :)
[15:30] <Cimi> seb128: someone to ping dbarth for me :P
[15:30] <Cimi> is he at home?
[15:32] <seb128> Cimi, he was around some minutes ago, not sure where he is
[15:32] <bratsche> He's hiding from Cimi.
[15:32] <bratsche> :)
[15:32] <bratsche> jk
[15:32] <davidbarth> yes
[15:32] <davidbarth> i'm here, i'm here
[15:33] <davidbarth> stop pinging me all at the same time
[15:35] <Cimi> ahaha damn
[15:35] <Cimi> I need him ;)
[16:38] <pitti> didrocks: sorry, what was the package again which does the background caching?
[16:38] <seb128> pitti, gnome-desktop?
[16:38] <pitti> ah, cheers
[16:38] <micahg> chrisccoulson: did you get an answer to your breaks question? policy manual seems to imply no: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-breaks
[16:39] <didrocks> no need to answer, seb128 is so quick :)
[17:01] <doko> didrocks: online?
[17:01] <didrocks> doko: yes
[17:01] <doko>  there are now cairo-dock-plugins *and* cairo-dock-plug-ins in maverick ... what's the difference?
[17:02] <doko> didrocks: ^^^
[17:02] <doko> can one be removed?
[17:05] <didrocks> doko: I think this should be asked to upstream, I'll next time I met them
[17:05] <doko> ok, thanks
[17:08] <didrocks> yw
[17:12] <Cimi> davidbarth: sabdfl: now uses two different styles for counters and timers http://i.imgur.com/XPRuz.png
[17:14] <davidbarth> Cimi: sweet
[17:14] <Cimi> I'm off for today, good weekend @ all!
[17:15] <didrocks> enjoy your week-end Cimi
[17:15] <davidbarth> Cimi: good week-end, see you on monday
[17:15] <Cimi> you too didier!
[17:15] <Cimi> bye david!
[17:19] <didrocks> jcastro: awesome blog post. I'll translate and use it heavily I guess :)
[17:20] <jcastro> didrocks: I have printed it and hung it on my desk
[17:20] <didrocks> jcastro: heh :-)
[17:22]  * kenvandine needs to see this blog post
[17:24] <kenvandine> haha... awesome jcastro!
[17:36] <kenvandine> oh wow... that's a cool feature.  posting a url to an image to identi.ca automatically attaches the image to the post
[17:36] <kenvandine> so it gets rendered in gwibber :)
[17:43] <seb128> hum
[17:43] <seb128> vuntz, do you know if there is a gtk3 version working with glib 2.26?
[17:44] <vuntz> seb128: nope
[17:45] <vuntz> seb128: you need 2.27
[17:48] <seb128> vuntz, :-(
[17:48] <seb128> will make harder to work on maverick for porting
[18:21] <kenvandine> seb128, libgwibber is now gtk3 ready :)
[18:21] <seb128> kenvandine, great ;-)
[18:22] <kenvandine> just need natty to upload too :)
[18:22] <kenvandine> not that it is important right now
[18:22] <kenvandine> however, it did make me notice a completely unrelated bug I'll SRU for maverick though
[18:23] <seb128> ok
[18:23] <seb128> yeah, we are waiting on natty for several things
[18:24] <seb128> since next cycle will be busy we should try moving early
[18:24] <kenvandine> and i really wish someone would look at bug 621952
[18:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 621952 in vala (Ubuntu) "‘_vala_dbus_register_object’ defined but not used (affects: 1) (heat: 85)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/621952
[18:24] <kenvandine> i want to keep building locally with stricter flags, but that breaks
[18:24] <seb128> kenvandine, how come you didn't add a bug watch? ;-)
[18:24] <kenvandine> i did
[18:24] <kenvandine> oh
[18:25] <kenvandine> didn't do a affects
[18:25] <kenvandine> but there is a bug watch listed on the right
[18:25]  * kenvandine does that
[18:25] <seb128> it seems that should be an easy bug to fix
[18:25] <seb128> I will not step for it though, enough to do already :p
[18:26]  * kenvandine steps away for lunch
[18:26] <kenvandine> bbiab
[18:31]  * didrocks out for sport and dinner (yeah, *sport*), bbl :p
[18:32] <jcastro> seb128 you guys will be doing your blueprints right after release right?
[18:39] <seb128> jcastro, dunno, ask rick
[18:39] <seb128> I don't know who is in charge of doing that for us
[18:47] <OwaisL> kenvandine, porting to gtk3 mostly involves using the gi.reposiry right? anything else that needs to be done?
[18:47] <OwaisL> gi.repository*
[18:47] <kenvandine> it actually already did that
[18:48] <kenvandine> only thing i needed to change was using accessor methods instead of accessing properties directly
[18:49] <OwaisL> kenvandine, could you please link me to a guide or doc listing guidelines for porting to gtk3
[18:49] <kenvandine> http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/2.91/gtk-migrating-2-to-3.html
[18:49] <kenvandine> CFLAGS='-DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGSEAL_ENABLE -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_DISABLE_SINGLE_INCLUDES'
[18:49] <OwaisL> kenvandine, thanks a lot mate!
[18:50] <kenvandine> is all i did... and fixed the errors :)
[19:06] <ehcah> Hello. I'm trying to run an application using wine. If su to root, I can run it from terminal. As myself, I get "wine: /home/jason/.wine is not owned by you".
[19:07] <ehcah> gone to my /.wine directory and ran ls -l. Everything appears to be owned by me?
[19:45] <didrocks> ok, time for a week-end (will be around tomorrow morning and a little bit the week-end)
[19:48] <soren> ehcah: It's complaining about /home/jason/.wine, not stuff *in* /home/jason/.wine.
[20:33] <Sarvatt> ehcah: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER/.wine then never ever ever run wine as root again :)
[20:35] <Sarvatt> ehcah: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-96bebfa287b4288974de0df23351f278b0d41014
[20:36] <ehcah> Hey Guys. Sorry I missed your suggestions. I had IRC minimized.
[20:37] <ehcah> Sarvatt: I end up doing a complete uninstall/reinstall.
[20:37] <ehcah> I have a different problem now: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/509009/