| === Zeike is now known as brandonj | ||
| DPic | hello | 04:55 |
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| DPic | i'm working on my next Ubuntu Post-install guide, and was looking for some help making pdf's and making it easy for people to translate | 04:59 |
| nisshh | DPic, hey | 05:20 |
| nisshh | DPic, godbyk would be the guy you want to talk to | 05:21 |
| godbyk | DPic: We're using LaTeX to generate the PDFs and po4a to handle the translation end of things. | 05:24 |
| DPic | would a program like LyX do well? | 05:35 |
| godbyk | DPic: It could. I can export to LaTeX and po4a could take the translation work from there. | 05:48 |
| godbyk | DPic: I haven't used LyX too much myself, though, so there may be shortfalls that I'm unaware of. | 05:49 |
| DPic | i'm not very familiar with lyx either actually. what would be a good place for me to author the post where it can be converted well? | 05:50 |
| godbyk | DPic: Could you rephrase the question? (I didn't follow the 'author the post' part.) | 05:52 |
| DPic | sorry, i mean using what application should i write this guide so that it can be posted to my blog in html, converted to pdf as well, and easily translated | 05:53 |
| godbyk | DPic: Ah, good question. I'm don't have a really good answer for you. There are plenty of ways to convert from html to tex, but it usually involves some tweaking to make the PDF look good. | 05:55 |
| godbyk | (HTML doesn't really provide as many typographic niceties as one may want.) | 05:55 |
| DPic | how long would it take to convert a fairly large guide from html to tex? | 05:57 |
| DPic | like this: http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2010/04/ubuntu-1004-post-install-guide-what-to.html | 05:58 |
| godbyk | The bulk of the work could be done with a script, if the html is structured nicely. | 05:59 |
| godbyk | If that's the completed guide, I could take a whack at it for you. | 05:59 |
| DPic | it's blogger, so god knows what kind of mess it creates | 05:59 |
| godbyk | Heh.. good point. | 05:59 |
| DPic | that's the previous one | 05:59 |
| godbyk | Ah, gotcha. | 06:00 |
| DPic | i'm baout to start one for maverick | 06:00 |
| DPic | i tried using lyx before, but it didn't make much sense to me | 06:00 |
| godbyk | I'd recommend that your screenshots be pretty high-resolution so that they print well. | 06:00 |
| godbyk | It takes a bit of getting used to, as LyX isn't really a WYSIWYG program. | 06:01 |
| godbyk | It can be a little snarky at times, too. | 06:01 |
| DPic | hm, how can i increase the resolution without just making the windows smaller? | 06:01 |
| DPic | i mean, if i am just capturing a window of a particular size in pixels, the resolution of my screen won't help that | 06:02 |
| godbyk | DPic: Right. I would just use the full-sized screenshots in the PDF instead of thumbnail versions (like what you have on the web page). | 06:02 |
| DPic | so, different screenshots for the webpage and for the pdf? | 06:03 |
| godbyk | So http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PtyHEChBKZw/S9oaGZeAWwI/AAAAAAAAf7o/-xaffs2limY/s1600/Screenshot.png instead of http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PtyHEChBKZw/S9oaGZeAWwI/AAAAAAAAf7o/-xaffs2limY/s640/Screenshot.png. | 06:03 |
| godbyk | The same screenshots can be used. Just not the scaled-down thumbnail versions. | 06:03 |
| DPic | oh right, but what i mean is that some screenshots are just of menus which are a fixed size in pixels | 06:04 |
| DPic | they do not get scaled down | 06:04 |
| DPic | but are still small | 06:04 |
| godbyk | Oh, yeah, those are fine. | 06:04 |
| DPic | okie doke | 06:04 |
| === topo is now known as Guest6294 | ||
| DPic | godbyk: ah, another issue is that the size of my post was previously too big to be shared on google reader, and this one will likely be even bigger | 10:05 |
| DPic | i'm not sure of a good way to host it as a static page | 10:05 |
| DPic | i suppose i could post it on my other domain, libreops.com | 10:05 |
| DPic | which i haven't used yet | 10:05 |
| popey | Hows the manual coming along? | 15:34 |
| nisshh | popey, i think thats a 'it's just fine' :) | 15:43 |
| zleap | i takeit there will be another manual for 10.10 and further manuals for 10.04 | 20:17 |
| dutchie | zleap: there will be a manual | 20:23 |
| zleap | cool | 20:23 |
| dutchie | it may well not end up being released this sunday | 20:23 |
| zleap | well aftrer sunday | 20:23 |
| === Zeike is now known as brandonj | ||
| ChrisWoollard | goodnight all. | 23:38 |
| godbyk | ChrisWoollard: g'night! thanks for the updates to the manual! | 23:39 |
| ChrisWoollard | I thought that as i had some time I had better do something, as nobody else had ;) | 23:39 |
| godbyk | good plan. :-) | 23:40 |
| ChrisWoollard | The worst thing is that I think the screenshots need to be looked at / updated. | 23:40 |
| ChrisWoollard | And quickshot isn't that simple. | 23:41 |
| godbyk | yeah, they do. | 23:41 |
| godbyk | I don't know where we're at with quickshot right now. | 23:41 |
| DPic | libreopswould be bad because i actually pay for hosting | 23:42 |
| DPic | hmmm | 23:42 |
| ChrisWoollard | Last time I tried to get my heard around it, it kept crashing | 23:42 |
| DPic | static pages on blogger are shit-- you're only allowed ten of them | 23:42 |
| ChrisWoollard | godbyk: What time do you have at the moment for manual updates? | 23:42 |
| godbyk | ChrisWoollard: not too much at the moment. I have to work on, well, work stuff. :-) | 23:43 |
| godbyk | I'm going to try to tweak some of the design parts of the manual soon. | 23:43 |
| ChrisWoollard | So much for the release. | 23:43 |
| godbyk | but I don't think I'll have much time to write material. | 23:43 |
| godbyk | I think the release will probably not happen on 10.10.10. | 23:44 |
| godbyk | Given the lack of activity. | 23:44 |
| ChrisWoollard | I think I am the only one that has commited in weeks. | 23:44 |
| ChrisWoollard | and even then, that isn't much | 23:45 |
| godbyk | ChrisWoollard: I think you're right. | 23:45 |
| godbyk | I think point, I figure we may as well wait for the release to come out, then put a bunch of effort into going through the manual page by page and ensuring that the text reflects the latest updates. | 23:46 |
| ChrisWoollard | That is what I started to do. | 23:46 |
| ChrisWoollard | I have done the prologue and I am half way through installation. | 23:47 |
| ChrisWoollard | I have even tested what it says. Hense the amount of updates. | 23:47 |
| ChrisWoollard | maybe next week we should do a nice motivational speech to the mailing list to get support. | 23:49 |
| ChrisWoollard | I think screenshots will be a problem though. Not many people know / understand quickshot. | 23:50 |
| godbyk | I don't think screenshots will be too much of a problem if quickshot is up and running. | 23:50 |
| godbyk | one person could run through and do all the screenshots once quickshot is running. it's pretty simple. | 23:51 |
| godbyk | Weird. Power just went off and came back on. | 23:52 |
| godbyk | Yay, UPS. | 23:52 |
| godbyk | Too bad my router and network switches aren't on one. | 23:52 |
| godbyk | (I should get another for the network stuff.) | 23:52 |
| ChrisWoollard | anyway. I will talk to you tomorrow / sunday. Maybe I can devise a plan / motivational e-mail for the list to get us support. :) | 23:54 |
| godbyk | Sounds good. See ya, ChrisWoollard! | 23:55 |
| ChrisWoollard | goodnight | 23:55 |
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