=== Zeike is now known as brandonj [04:55] hello [04:59] i'm working on my next Ubuntu Post-install guide, and was looking for some help making pdf's and making it easy for people to translate [05:20] DPic, hey [05:21] DPic, godbyk would be the guy you want to talk to [05:24] DPic: We're using LaTeX to generate the PDFs and po4a to handle the translation end of things. [05:35] would a program like LyX do well? [05:48] DPic: It could. I can export to LaTeX and po4a could take the translation work from there. [05:49] DPic: I haven't used LyX too much myself, though, so there may be shortfalls that I'm unaware of. [05:50] i'm not very familiar with lyx either actually. what would be a good place for me to author the post where it can be converted well? [05:52] DPic: Could you rephrase the question? (I didn't follow the 'author the post' part.) [05:53] sorry, i mean using what application should i write this guide so that it can be posted to my blog in html, converted to pdf as well, and easily translated [05:55] DPic: Ah, good question. I'm don't have a really good answer for you. There are plenty of ways to convert from html to tex, but it usually involves some tweaking to make the PDF look good. [05:55] (HTML doesn't really provide as many typographic niceties as one may want.) [05:57] how long would it take to convert a fairly large guide from html to tex? [05:58] like this: http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2010/04/ubuntu-1004-post-install-guide-what-to.html [05:59] The bulk of the work could be done with a script, if the html is structured nicely. [05:59] If that's the completed guide, I could take a whack at it for you. [05:59] it's blogger, so god knows what kind of mess it creates [05:59] Heh.. good point. [05:59] that's the previous one [06:00] Ah, gotcha. [06:00] i'm baout to start one for maverick [06:00] i tried using lyx before, but it didn't make much sense to me [06:00] I'd recommend that your screenshots be pretty high-resolution so that they print well. [06:01] It takes a bit of getting used to, as LyX isn't really a WYSIWYG program. [06:01] It can be a little snarky at times, too. [06:01] hm, how can i increase the resolution without just making the windows smaller? [06:02] i mean, if i am just capturing a window of a particular size in pixels, the resolution of my screen won't help that [06:02] DPic: Right. I would just use the full-sized screenshots in the PDF instead of thumbnail versions (like what you have on the web page). [06:03] so, different screenshots for the webpage and for the pdf? [06:03] So http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PtyHEChBKZw/S9oaGZeAWwI/AAAAAAAAf7o/-xaffs2limY/s1600/Screenshot.png instead of http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PtyHEChBKZw/S9oaGZeAWwI/AAAAAAAAf7o/-xaffs2limY/s640/Screenshot.png. [06:03] The same screenshots can be used. Just not the scaled-down thumbnail versions. [06:04] oh right, but what i mean is that some screenshots are just of menus which are a fixed size in pixels [06:04] they do not get scaled down [06:04] but are still small [06:04] Oh, yeah, those are fine. [06:04] okie doke === topo is now known as Guest6294 [10:05] godbyk: ah, another issue is that the size of my post was previously too big to be shared on google reader, and this one will likely be even bigger [10:05] i'm not sure of a good way to host it as a static page [10:05] i suppose i could post it on my other domain, libreops.com [10:05] which i haven't used yet [15:34] Hows the manual coming along? [15:43] popey, i think thats a 'it's just fine' :) [20:17] i takeit there will be another manual for 10.10 and further manuals for 10.04 [20:23] zleap: there will be a manual [20:23] cool [20:23] it may well not end up being released this sunday [20:23] well aftrer sunday === Zeike is now known as brandonj [23:38] goodnight all. [23:39] ChrisWoollard: g'night! thanks for the updates to the manual! [23:39] I thought that as i had some time I had better do something, as nobody else had ;) [23:40] good plan. :-) [23:40] The worst thing is that I think the screenshots need to be looked at / updated. [23:41] And quickshot isn't that simple. [23:41] yeah, they do. [23:41] I don't know where we're at with quickshot right now. [23:42] libreopswould be bad because i actually pay for hosting [23:42] hmmm [23:42] Last time I tried to get my heard around it, it kept crashing [23:42] static pages on blogger are shit-- you're only allowed ten of them [23:42] godbyk: What time do you have at the moment for manual updates? [23:43] ChrisWoollard: not too much at the moment. I have to work on, well, work stuff. :-) [23:43] I'm going to try to tweak some of the design parts of the manual soon. [23:43] So much for the release. [23:43] but I don't think I'll have much time to write material. [23:44] I think the release will probably not happen on 10.10.10. [23:44] Given the lack of activity. [23:44] I think I am the only one that has commited in weeks. [23:45] and even then, that isn't much [23:45] ChrisWoollard: I think you're right. [23:46] I think point, I figure we may as well wait for the release to come out, then put a bunch of effort into going through the manual page by page and ensuring that the text reflects the latest updates. [23:46] That is what I started to do. [23:47] I have done the prologue and I am half way through installation. [23:47] I have even tested what it says. Hense the amount of updates. [23:49] maybe next week we should do a nice motivational speech to the mailing list to get support. [23:50] I think screenshots will be a problem though. Not many people know / understand quickshot. [23:50] I don't think screenshots will be too much of a problem if quickshot is up and running. [23:51] one person could run through and do all the screenshots once quickshot is running. it's pretty simple. [23:52] Weird. Power just went off and came back on. [23:52] Yay, UPS. [23:52] Too bad my router and network switches aren't on one. [23:52] (I should get another for the network stuff.) [23:54] anyway. I will talk to you tomorrow / sunday. Maybe I can devise a plan / motivational e-mail for the list to get us support. :) [23:55] Sounds good. See ya, ChrisWoollard! [23:55] goodnight