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dholbachgood morning!08:28
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hexmodegood morning...  I'm back from the hospital14:20
MooDoohexmode: patient or visiting?14:53
hexmodeMooDoo: patient: http://hexmode.com/540584.html14:54
MooDooblimey, but you're recovering well [as much as you can] now?14:55
hexmodeMooDoo: yes, doctors & nurses in the brain injury unit were impressed15:01
hexmodeI attribute it to the car accident that knocked me into a coma when I was three15:02
MooDoohexmode: well that's good news :)15:02
hexmodetaught my body how to deal with trauma ;)15:02
MooDoowell i'm glad you're ok :)15:02
hexmodebut I don't know how true that is15:02
hexmodeThank you.15:03
dholbachhexmode: wow - all the best!15:23
* dholbach hugs hexmode15:23
hexmodedholbach: thanks, the worst (that is, the actual wreck) is over now.15:23
dholbachholy cow, really15:24
hexmodemostly just wanted to let ppl know why I haven't been active ;)15:24
MooDoohexmode: you damn slacker you ;()15:24
MooDoo;)15:24
hexmode:P15:25
Pendulumhexmode: glad you're doing so well with your recovery16:09
hexmodePendulum: tyvm16:09
Pendulum(I know enough about head injury and have known enough people with TBIs that I'm quite impressed with how well you're doing)16:10
hexmodePendulum: the brain injury unit was quit a showcase of "how bad it could be"16:11
hexmode:P16:11
Pendulumheh16:11
hexmodes/quit/quite/16:11
Pendulumwell, I assumed you were aware, but I suspect most other people in this channel aren't :P16:11
Pendulumthey kept you in Reading? (I wasn't aware that they had a brain injury unit as most people I've known in that area with TBI ended up getting sent to Philly)16:12
Pendulumor to whatever the one is in Paoli area that's affiliated with I think UPenn's system16:13
hexmodeI was in a post-trauma Rehab center there16:13
Pendulum*nods*16:13
hexmodeand actually I live in Akron, they flew me to Reading16:13
Pendulumah, okay16:13
hexmodeso the hospital seemed up to it16:13
Pendulum:)16:14
hexmodethe rehab building is new (1yr old) but I don't think the program is16:14
Pendulum(I went to school outside Philly and was semi-active with the disability community in the area)16:14
Pendulum:)16:14
hexmodethere was one girl in there who had to have her head extracted from a windshield :P16:15
Pendulumouch16:15
Pendulumwhy to wear a seatbelt 101 (generally if your head goes through the windshield, you weren't wearing a seatbelt)16:15
* hexmode nods16:15
Pendulummost people I've known with TBI actually have been similar to you: either runners or bicyclists16:16
hexmodetbi = traumatic brain injury ??16:17
hexmodeI will hid your statement from my wife.  otherwise she may never let me ride again ;(16:18
Pendulumyeah16:18
Pendulumtbi = traumatic brain injury16:19
hexmodePendulum: where are you located now?16:19
Pendulumtechnically it covers anything from a mild concussion to coma-due-to-brain-injury, but generally people use it to describe something more serious than a minor concussion and with longer-lasting effects16:19
PendulumI'm currently up in CT16:20
hexmodethough they did have posters up there talking 'bout concussion & football.16:21
Pendulumyeah16:21
Pendulumwell they're discovering over time that the more concussions you have the easier it becomes to get concussed and the more long-term effects16:21
Pendulum(I know it's been talked about as a possible reason for the recent suicides by young professional and college football players)16:22
hexmodesuicide?  I think I saw a patient up there whose attitude had been affected negatively by their TBI, but I'm surprised that concussion would do that?16:31
hexmodebtw, patient was mostly angry not suicidal16:32
Pendulumthere's a specific thing that can occur due to multiple/repeated concussions healing "wrong"16:34
Pendulumwhich can cause depression16:34
Pendulumthe problem being it's not possible to diagnose without a brain biopsy16:35
hexmodeugh biopsy16:35
Pendulumwell, and brain biopsies can't be done on someone who is alive16:35
hexmodeso, an autopsy16:36
* hexmode is mr. pedantic16:36
Pendulumhexmode: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy16:36
Pendulumwell, the biopsy is done as part of an autopsy, yes16:37
hexmodeSo, it seems unlikely that even football players who commit suicide would have brain biopsies done...16:38
PendulumI only heard about it when reading about Chris Henry16:39
Pendulumbecause his family did have one done16:39
Pendulumand Owen Thomas16:39
Pendulumalthough they're not positive about Owen Thomas because he had no recorded concussions16:40
Pendulum(but even as a softball player I had injuries that were probably concussions and I was told not to bother getting checked out so...)16:40

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