=== MooDoo_ is now known as MooDoo [08:28] good morning! === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [14:20] good morning... I'm back from the hospital [14:53] hexmode: patient or visiting? [14:54] MooDoo: patient: http://hexmode.com/540584.html [14:55] blimey, but you're recovering well [as much as you can] now? [15:01] MooDoo: yes, doctors & nurses in the brain injury unit were impressed [15:02] I attribute it to the car accident that knocked me into a coma when I was three [15:02] hexmode: well that's good news :) [15:02] taught my body how to deal with trauma ;) [15:02] well i'm glad you're ok :) [15:02] but I don't know how true that is [15:03] Thank you. [15:23] hexmode: wow - all the best! [15:23] * dholbach hugs hexmode [15:23] dholbach: thanks, the worst (that is, the actual wreck) is over now. [15:24] holy cow, really [15:24] mostly just wanted to let ppl know why I haven't been active ;) [15:24] hexmode: you damn slacker you ;() [15:24] ;) [15:25] :P [16:09] hexmode: glad you're doing so well with your recovery [16:09] Pendulum: tyvm [16:10] (I know enough about head injury and have known enough people with TBIs that I'm quite impressed with how well you're doing) [16:11] Pendulum: the brain injury unit was quit a showcase of "how bad it could be" [16:11] :P [16:11] heh [16:11] s/quit/quite/ [16:11] well, I assumed you were aware, but I suspect most other people in this channel aren't :P [16:12] they kept you in Reading? (I wasn't aware that they had a brain injury unit as most people I've known in that area with TBI ended up getting sent to Philly) [16:13] or to whatever the one is in Paoli area that's affiliated with I think UPenn's system [16:13] I was in a post-trauma Rehab center there [16:13] *nods* [16:13] and actually I live in Akron, they flew me to Reading [16:13] ah, okay [16:13] so the hospital seemed up to it [16:14] :) [16:14] the rehab building is new (1yr old) but I don't think the program is [16:14] (I went to school outside Philly and was semi-active with the disability community in the area) [16:14] :) [16:15] there was one girl in there who had to have her head extracted from a windshield :P [16:15] ouch [16:15] why to wear a seatbelt 101 (generally if your head goes through the windshield, you weren't wearing a seatbelt) [16:15] * hexmode nods [16:16] most people I've known with TBI actually have been similar to you: either runners or bicyclists [16:17] tbi = traumatic brain injury ?? [16:18] I will hid your statement from my wife. otherwise she may never let me ride again ;( [16:18] yeah [16:19] tbi = traumatic brain injury [16:19] Pendulum: where are you located now? [16:19] technically it covers anything from a mild concussion to coma-due-to-brain-injury, but generally people use it to describe something more serious than a minor concussion and with longer-lasting effects [16:20] I'm currently up in CT [16:21] though they did have posters up there talking 'bout concussion & football. [16:21] yeah [16:21] well they're discovering over time that the more concussions you have the easier it becomes to get concussed and the more long-term effects [16:22] (I know it's been talked about as a possible reason for the recent suicides by young professional and college football players) [16:31] suicide? I think I saw a patient up there whose attitude had been affected negatively by their TBI, but I'm surprised that concussion would do that? [16:32] btw, patient was mostly angry not suicidal [16:34] there's a specific thing that can occur due to multiple/repeated concussions healing "wrong" [16:34] which can cause depression [16:35] the problem being it's not possible to diagnose without a brain biopsy [16:35] ugh biopsy [16:35] well, and brain biopsies can't be done on someone who is alive [16:36] so, an autopsy [16:36] * hexmode is mr. pedantic [16:36] hexmode: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy [16:37] well, the biopsy is done as part of an autopsy, yes [16:38] So, it seems unlikely that even football players who commit suicide would have brain biopsies done... [16:39] I only heard about it when reading about Chris Henry [16:39] because his family did have one done [16:39] and Owen Thomas [16:40] although they're not positive about Owen Thomas because he had no recorded concussions [16:40] (but even as a softball player I had injuries that were probably concussions and I was told not to bother getting checked out so...)