[00:00] <echosystm> i could use LVM and raid1, then keep breaking the array, but that sounds a bit scary
[00:00] <echosystm> essentially i'm looking for raid1, where i can physically remove the hard drive from the computer (to protect against power surges)
[00:07] <_Techie_> echosystm, so you want a hotswappable RAID 1 setup
[00:07] <echosystm> basically, yeah
[00:08] <echosystm> i imagine this could be done somehow involving lvm
[00:08] <echosystm> essentially i want to do backups without having to turn off the power or stop any processes
[00:10]  * away_Sgiomlairea is now away - Reason : dinner
[00:14] <_Techie_> echosystm, this might provide you with a bit of reading, http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com/msg00182.html
[00:33] <RudyValencia> OK, why are my ttys displaying text shifted two character places right?
[00:42] <_Techie_> okay, i need a bit of help, my postfix server isnt authenticating properly when recieving mail - http://pastebin.com/Qg63NxP0
[00:50] <demonspork> I am having trouble getting something to bind to a specific port  "java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address" but nothing shows up as being bound to that port
[00:51] <demonspork> how can I check further if anything is trying to use that port but isn't showing up with netstat -l
[00:52] <demonspork> ooooh, it can't assign it to that specific address, it doesn't matter what port it seems
[00:53] <demonspork> lol, that IP didn't come up on reboot
[00:53] <demonspork> although all of the other IP addresses did
[00:53] <demonspork> hmm
[02:36] <paul_whipp> I can't ping my cloud server. I've executed "sudo iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT" and allowed icmp in the security group. web services on the server are running fine but ping still just times out. How do I get ping to work?
[02:37] <twb> Suppose I have an office network with a handful of servers and a high turnover of staff, who mostly use personal laptops.
[02:38] <twb> Is there non-negligible benefit to advertising servers' services over that zeroconf DNS-SD stuff?
[02:39] <twb> (Oh, and the laptops are mostly linux, with the occasional OS X or Windows user.)
[02:40] <_Techie_> i have iptables setup to allow my server to act as the default gateway for my nework, is there any way to find out how much data is being sent and recieved by a specific internal IP?
[02:41] <twb> _Techie_: a cheapass way would be to have a rule per host, and then count the packets/bytes that matched.
[02:41] <twb> IIRC there are better ways, but I can't remember what they are.
[02:41] <_Techie_> twb, do you know of a way that doesnt involve ripping apart my current set of rules?
[02:41] <_Techie_> oh
[02:41] <twb> They were probably too heavyweight for me to run on my 16MB router
[02:42] <qman__> bandwidthd does that IIRC
[02:42] <_Techie_> i see, well ive got a 2.2ghz athlon with 2gig of RAM, so nothing is too heavy
[02:42] <qman__> if you have the horsepower to run it
[02:42] <_Techie_> dual core athlon*
[02:42] <qman__> it wasn't what I wanted, I just wanted a total, so I used vnstat instead
[02:42] <twb> I didn't think bandwidthd could distinguish between hosts
[02:43] <_Techie_> if you want a total, phpsysinfo gives it in a nice output
[02:43] <twb> I think _Techie_ is trying to answer questions like "which bastard is using all the bandwidth?"
[02:43] <_Techie_> no
[02:44] <_Techie_> i just want to know how much data my phone uses to check mail and connect to IRC before i switch it to using the cellular network
[02:44] <qman__> looks like it does go by IP   http://bandwidthd.sourceforge.net/
[02:44]  * Sgiomlaireachd is no longer away : Gone for 2 hours 34 minutes 41 seconds
[02:45] <qman__> not sure if it can go by internal IP
[02:45] <qman__> may or may not do what you want
[02:45] <twb> _Techie_: that's easy, then -- ask the phone
[02:46] <_Techie_> twb, not sure if the phone knows how to answer that question =P
[02:46] <twb> It's not running linux?
[02:46] <_Techie_> no
[02:46] <_Techie_> i wish
[02:46] <twb> Huh, how backward
[02:46] <_Techie_> im not actually sure what its running
[02:47] <_Techie_> its a chinese touch screen phone designed to imitate the iphone
[02:47] <twb> Oh, a lenovo one?
[02:47] <_Techie_> no
[02:47] <_Techie_> gimme a sec
[02:47] <twb> Lenovo make a smartphone, but they only sell it to China
[02:48] <_Techie_> twb, http://www.modster-pc.co.nz/shop/product_info.php?cPath=214&products_id=4162
[02:49] <_Techie_> if i could find an app that would allow me access to the root of the phone via bluetooth, i could modify some stuff
[02:49] <qman__> I've never used a phone that didn't keep totals
[02:49] <_Techie_> but i cant find anything that will do that
[02:49] <qman__> data and minutes
[02:50] <_Techie_> i really dont want to just chuck it onto the cellular network, even though its prepay
[02:52] <_Techie_> casual data rates are 50c per MB, or i can buy a 50MB pack for $6, but that only lasts one month
[02:53] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey. I just purged couchdb on my 10.04 server, because i had a lot of problems with it, and the guys at #couchdb said that would be the easiest solution to fix it. I dont also deleted /etc/couchdb before i thought -- well, then everything must be gone and i can start fresh with apt-get install couchdb. But now my couchdb doesnt function. It says it needs different files in /etc/couchdb, and i understand why it fails, since /etc/couchdb doesnt
[02:54] <ChrisBuchholz> I did also delete /etc/couchdb because i thought***
[02:55] <twb> Sounds like you didn't really purge it
[02:56] <ChrisBuchholz> twb: apt-get purge couchdb ?
[02:57] <twb> It used to be apt-get remove --purge.  I guess "purge" is new and does the same thing.
[02:57] <twb> I also suspected there was a libcouchdb1 or suchlike, but I can't see one.
[02:58] <ChrisBuchholz> twb: hmm. Just tried one my time, this time with remove --purge. Didnt help, it still doesnt function
[02:58] <ChrisBuchholz> /etc/couchdb is still non-existent
[02:59] <twb> I know that if you *remove* (as opposed to purging) a package, then install it, the conffiles will remain deleted.  This is because dpkg assumes you deleted them for a reason.
[03:00] <demonspork> there is an option to override that behavior
[03:00] <demonspork> gah, I just saw it last night
[03:00] <demonspork> where is iz
[03:01] <twb> dvorak, eh?
[03:01] <demonspork> lol - what makes you say that
[03:01] <twb> Your typo
[03:02] <demonspork> nope
[03:02] <Zeu5> hi there, i have this message when i loggedinto my ubuntu server. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/aatDYefpWVu2HKMcb-7asA?feat=directlink should i do the sudo tasksel -section server ? do i need to restart my server? please advise.
[03:03] <twb> Oh, swiss
[03:03] <demonspork> Zeu5, what are you trying to use this server for?  the message about restart is probably a kernel update that has been installed but isn't in use, or some other various packages - most things don't require a restart though
[03:03] <twb> Or another national keyboard layout near there
[03:03] <demonspork> nope
[03:04] <Zeu5> demonspork: its a webserver . hosting a webapp. LAMP stack
[03:04] <demonspork> Zeu5, so you have all of those components installed already?
[03:04] <Zeu5> demonspork: i mean webserver and database server in 1
[03:04] <Zeu5> LAMP? yes its currently running.
[03:04] <demonspork> k
[03:05] <ChrisBuchholz> No luck on finding that command to override 'that' behvaior, demonspork ?
[03:05] <demonspork> did you install the LAMP when you were doing the initial setup or install all the components later on
[03:05] <demonspork> ChrisBuchholz, I looked into it a little bit - it is a dpkg command and I don't know how to make it happen using apt
[03:05] <Zeu5> demonspork: sorry i am a newbie. so do i need to a) restart my server , b) do the sudo tasksel --section server?
[03:06] <Zeu5> demonspork: i just did a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade. my LAMP was installed days ago
[03:06] <ChrisBuchholz> demonspork: ah okay, sad :/
[03:06] <demonspork> Zeu5, but you install all of the packages yourself?
[03:06] <Zeu5> was the update & upgrade the reason for the message about server restart?
[03:06] <Zeu5> demonspork: LAMP yes. sudo apt-get update & upgrade yes.
[03:07] <demonspork> probably, it most likely installed a kernel update - which needs an update to actually be used
[03:07] <Zeu5> demonspork: so what should i do? leave it alone? restart server? sudo tasksel --section server?
[03:08] <demonspork> ChrisBuchholz, try this: "sudo ucf --purge /etc/whateveryourfilenameis
[03:08] <demonspork> Zeu5, restarting probably should be done, the tasksel message is just it assuming you haven't installed anything useful yet
[03:08] <demonspork> when you actually have
[03:08] <demonspork> so don't worry about the tasksel
[03:08] <Zeu5> hmm. i see. thanks demonspork. :)
[03:08] <ChrisBuchholz> demonspork: yeah? No output, so no error, i guess. And then try to install couchdb again?
[03:09] <demonspork> try it
[03:09] <Zeu5> is there a command in ssh for me to restart the server?
[03:09] <demonspork> shutdown -r now
[03:09] <demonspork> you will need root, so "sudo shutdown -r now"
[03:09] <demonspork> -r says to reboot, now tell sit when to restart
[03:09] <Zeu5> btw, i am using an amazon web services. and the ubuntu is an machine image from canonical
[03:09] <ChrisBuchholz> demonspork: holy crap. It worked!
[03:09] <demonspork> :)
[03:10] <ChrisBuchholz> thanks for your help, guys ;)
[03:10] <demonspork> I am as surprised as you are
[03:10] <demonspork> lol
[03:10] <demonspork> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=444076
[03:10] <demonspork> got the idea from there
[03:10] <ChrisBuchholz> demonspork: ah, cool
[03:11] <ChrisBuchholz> it works now, so lovely times to come
[03:11] <demonspork> apt-get replace conf files   -    that is the google search that led me there
[03:12] <Zeu5> demonspork: yes the restart message is gone. the tasksel is still there
[03:12] <demonspork> hmm
[03:12] <Zeu5> demonspork: so i just leave it alone for now yea?
[03:12] <demonspork> yeah
[03:13] <demonspork> I am trying to remember where all of those login scripts are kept
[03:13] <demonspork> I wanna look through them
[03:13] <Zeu5> okie cool. thanks demonspork
[03:20] <_Techie_> twb, i just gave in, i set my data connection to GPRS and am testing things out
[03:23] <_Techie_> thats not too bad, 13c to check my email, check facebook, and connect to my BNC and sync all 8 channels, with 50 lines of buffer
[03:24] <twb> BNC?
[03:24] <demonspork> Where can I find a list of the commands that run when I log in
[03:24] <twb> You're still using thinwire?
[03:24] <_Techie_>  thinwire?
[03:25] <RudyValencia> Why are my ttys displaying text shifted two character places right (like, I type off the right side of the screen and not only does the cursor disappear for two characters but the text I type doesn't appear)?
[03:26] <RudyValencia> uh, nvm I think my monitor's settings are messed up
[03:27] <_Techie_> haha RudyValencia, problem lies between the keybaord and the seat?
[03:27] <RudyValencia> no, problem is in the new LCD panel I bought
[03:28] <demonspork> PEBKC
[03:28] <RudyValencia> It seems to be 80x25 textmode getting misconfigured
[03:28] <RudyValencia> (not by Linux but by the flatpanel)
[03:29] <_Techie_> wait, you have a flatpanel, and your using 80x25 textmode?
[03:29] <_Techie_> thats ever so slighly overkill i reckon
[03:30] <RudyValencia> this is my server I'm talking about
[03:30] <_Techie_> yeah
[03:30] <_Techie_> i figured
[03:30] <RudyValencia> Should I be running a minimal X session perhaps?
[03:30] <_Techie_> no
[03:30] <RudyValencia> maybe along the lines of twm?
[03:30] <_Techie_> you should be logging in via SSH
[03:31] <_Techie_> hell, Orannis doesnt even have a GPU
[03:31] <_Techie_> leta lone a monitor
[03:31] <_Techie_> let alone*
[03:31] <RudyValencia> well, I'm trying to configure SSH for public-key auth without a password
[03:31] <_Techie_> thats easy
[03:32] <demonspork> doesn't require any config changes except disabling password login
[03:33] <RudyValencia> don't I have to tell it to use the user's authorized_keys file?
[03:33] <demonspork> after you have shared the public key ( cat id_rsa.pub > .ssh/known_hosts )  is a line I use a lot
[03:33] <RudyValencia> ah
[03:33] <demonspork> authorized keys
[03:33] <demonspork> not known hosts
[03:33] <demonspork> I typed the wrong thing
[03:33] <RudyValencia> Oh
[03:33] <RudyValencia> I'm using the wrong file
[03:33] <_Techie_> RudyValencia, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/508448/
[03:33] <RudyValencia> I'm using the "opensshkey" file from PuTTYgen
[03:33] <demonspork> .ssh/known_hosts in the user's home directory
[03:33] <_Techie_> oh yeah
[03:33] <RudyValencia> Yeah
[03:33] <demonspork> that would be the file
[03:33] <_Techie_> you will need to modify the public key that putty gives you
[03:34] <RudyValencia> ah
[03:35] <_Techie_> it needs to be in this format    '  ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EA..............5B1eXHomBN6mU=
[03:35] <_Techie_> and all on one line
[03:36] <RudyValencia> ah
[03:36] <_Techie_> i figured that out while working on Zeus, Hades, and Poseidon
[03:37] <_Techie_> so once thats all done, just open the .ppk file from putty, connect and enter your username
[03:38] <_Techie_> if you trust your own security and want to make things extremely automated, dont encrypt your private key and use an auto login username
[03:39] <_Techie_> that way you can just right click the Pageant icon in the taskbar adn select the apropriate saved session, and your in without having to type anything
[03:39] <demonspork> can someone else think of some terms to google to find the list of scripts that get executed when i log in?
[03:40] <demonspork> like the landscape info and package stats
[03:40] <demonspork> I been looking
[03:40] <demonspork> I not finding
[03:41] <RudyValencia> Okay
[03:41] <_Techie_> demonspork, its ~/.bashrc if your using /bin/bash/
[03:42] <RudyValencia> "Server refused our key"
[03:42] <_Techie_> !bashrc
[03:42] <_Techie_> !bash
[03:42] <_Techie_> well, that was alot of use
[03:43] <demonspork> _Techie_, yeah, but that doens't list any of the things that do run when I log in....
[03:43] <demonspork> like the landscape information and the information about packages that are available for update
[03:43] <_Techie_> RudyValencia, did you correct those lines in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[03:43] <RudyValencia> yes
[03:44] <_Techie_> did you restart SSH
[03:44] <RudyValencia> Yes
[03:45] <RudyValencia> I think I'll copy the original config back over and try again (I have it stored as sshd_config.orig) :)
[03:45] <_Techie_> okay
[03:46] <demonspork> I found it
[03:46] <demonspork> /etc/update-motd.d/
[03:46] <RudyValencia> Still not.
[03:46] <demonspork> those don't run on long exactly
[03:46] <demonspork> they just run periodically and login displays the results
[03:49] <RudyValencia> which key does the server hold?
[03:50] <RudyValencia> the private key or the public key?
[03:50] <demonspork> the server needs the public key
[03:50] <RudyValencia> okay
[03:51] <RudyValencia> I think I just had the wrong half
[03:51] <demonspork> I am so excited - my HPSMH is working
[03:51] <demonspork> I tried for like 4 days to get it working
[03:51] <demonspork> and then I rebooted
[03:51] <demonspork> and it worked
[03:54] <_Techie_> grats demonspork
[03:57] <RudyValencia> I probably need to generate a new keypair
[03:58] <_Techie_> i owuld advise it, especially if you put your private key on the sevrer
[04:07] <RudyValencia> Server is still refusing the key...
[04:07] <_Techie_> =(
[04:07] <_Techie_> pastebin the private key please
[04:07] <RudyValencia> that's fine right?
[04:08] <_Techie_> yes
[04:08] <RudyValencia> It's a PuTTY key format
[04:08] <_Techie_> pastebin it anyway
[04:08] <_Techie_> and i will check it and tell you what you need to do
[04:10] <_Techie_> hrmm
[04:11] <_Techie_> what bit key is this?
[04:11] <RudyValencia> brb
[04:11] <_Techie_> 1024?
[04:11] <RudyValencia> 1024 bit RSA
[04:11] <_Techie_> kk
[04:11] <_Techie_> RudyValencia, http://pastebin.com/zm46rQ2G
[04:14] <RudyValencia> I see the problem
[04:14] <RudyValencia> PuTTYgen puts "gxysrv01" at the end of the public key
[04:14] <RudyValencia> and I pasted that in along with it
[04:15] <_Techie_> that doesnt matter
[04:15] <RudyValencia> apparently it did
[04:15] <RudyValencia> for some odd reason Ubuntu server doesn't like it that way
[04:15] <_Techie_> ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABJQAAAIEAp7kt8NZ4ZYvCrT7CZ+0f9Va1kNWSD2sSU4T3FoNfkb1w7S6446x4Y1yjLmKD90bEPovUVDmm/M6QSWN6BoHMQuIpp7jykKd5NOm0woMzsCNx3We7qOsqx9RDb0bw3eL+ByJP7IpySILE84g0fnrWGbztTjyTnKPKVLZEOEvEfjE=
[04:16] <_Techie_> thats what your authorized_keys file should look like
[04:16] <RudyValencia> ah
[04:16] <RudyValencia> yeah
[04:16] <RudyValencia> it does now
[04:16] <_Techie_> also, the .ssh folder should be chmodded to 700, and the authorized_keys file to 600
[04:16] <RudyValencia> mmhmm
[04:16] <_Techie_> and both folder and authorized_keys file should be owned by your suer and group
[04:17] <_Techie_> user*
[04:18] <_Techie_> now it should work
[04:18] <RudyValencia> I've been redoing my server and forgot half of those little nuances
[04:23] <twb> _Techie_: auth.log will tell you if you get those permissions wrong
[04:24] <twb> 14:14 <RudyValencia> PuTTYgen puts "gxysrv01" at the end of the public key
[04:24] <twb> RudyValencia: that's the key comment.  The comment can be anything
[04:24] <RudyValencia> oh
[04:24] <twb> OpenSSH comments are usually <user>@<host>
[04:24] <RudyValencia> maybe I did have the permissions wrong on the server-side
[04:24] <_Techie_> or in my case, Techie's Key
[04:25] <_Techie_> Authenticating with public key "Techie's Key" from agent
[04:25] <_Techie_>   FTW
[04:25] <RudyValencia> ah
[04:25] <RudyValencia> in my case it's the name of the server
[04:25] <RudyValencia> 'gxysrv01'
[04:25] <twb> _Techie_: hm, mine uses the path.  I guess you run seahorse or something
[04:25] <_Techie_> twb, putty
[04:25] <_Techie_> RudyValencia, you need to think of a better name for your server
[04:25] <RudyValencia> I use PuTTY too
[04:25] <twb> $ ssh alioth.debian.org ==> Enter passphrase for key '/home/twb/.ssh/id_rsa':
[04:25] <RudyValencia> It's named that because:
[04:26] <RudyValencia> gxy = greeley
[04:26] <RudyValencia> srv = server
[04:26] <RudyValencia> 01 = well, 1
[04:26] <RudyValencia> I do the same for my workstation, 'gxywks01'
[04:26] <_Techie_> bah, you cant have a singular server with a name that makes sense
[04:26] <RudyValencia> and my laptop, 'gxylap01'
[04:26] <_Techie_> or even a cluster
[04:26] <RudyValencia> hm
[04:26] <_Techie_> you have to have a naming theme
[04:26] <twb> RudyValencia: RFC1178
[04:26] <RudyValencia> well, it used to be called 'excalibur' a long time ago
[04:26] <demonspork> gah, I can't get rid of  these stupid mail messages that were sent when I typoed a crontab entry. I use "mail" and then I try using "d *" or "d 1" and the message never gets deleted. It doesn't give an error or anything, it is simply still there
[04:27] <_Techie_> demonspork, manually edit your mail file =)
[04:27] <twb> demonspork: use a better MUA than mail(1) ? ;-P
[04:28] <RudyValencia> I'm trying to think of a new naming system
[04:28] <_Techie_> RudyValencia, got a favourite book?
[04:28] <RudyValencia> hitchhiker's guide series
[04:28] <twb> *RFC 1178*
[04:28] <_Techie_> RudyValencia, then pick names from that
[04:29] <twb> _Techie_: that's a bad idea because the set is finite.
[04:29] <_Techie_> so
[04:29] <twb> Meaning that eventually you will run out of names to allocate.
[04:29] <_Techie_> i have a cluster of VM's named after greek gods, thats finite
[04:29] <RudyValencia> I think I'll just change to something like srv01.gxy.glenmereind.local
[04:29] <demonspork> where is the mail file I need to edit
[04:30] <_Techie_> demonspork, depends on your setup
[04:30] <twb> RudyValencia: that should be an alias, not a name.
[04:30] <RudyValencia> maybe gxy-serv-001 ?
[04:31] <_Techie_> *sigh*
[04:31] <_Techie_> be creative
[04:31] <_Techie_> what about Astarael
[04:31] <RudyValencia> I'm thinking
[04:31] <RudyValencia> maybe LotR names, or maybe video game character names
[04:32] <_Techie_> anything will do, its just gotta be something other than a plain name
[04:32] <RudyValencia> ok, well, I'd have to alter a whole bunch of stuff but eh
[04:32] <_Techie_> if the name tells you exactly where the server is, or what it does... then you gotta keep thinking
[04:33] <RudyValencia> hm, maybe band names
[04:33] <RudyValencia> I don't know
[04:33] <RudyValencia> nah because 'boston' conflicts with the 'don't use a geographic name' rule
[04:33] <_Techie_> hell, you could even use vegetable names
[04:34] <RudyValencia> 'rutabaga.glenmereind.local', 'endive.glenmereind.local', 'chard.glenmereind.local'...
[04:34] <RudyValencia> hehe
[04:34] <gravity1187> hello everyone
[04:34] <RudyValencia> Star Wars...
[04:35] <_Techie_> perfect
[04:35] <_Techie_> starwars would be great
[04:35] <RudyValencia> 'luke.glenmereind.local', 'vader.glenmereind.local', 'anakin.glenmereind.local', 'hansolo.glenmereind.local', 'chewie.glenmereind.local', 'leia.glenmereind.local', etc.
[04:35] <RudyValencia> it's probably been overdone though
[04:35] <_Techie_> or, you could use species names
[04:36] <RudyValencia> 'homosapiens.glenmereind.local'?
[04:36] <RudyValencia> ugh
[04:36] <_Techie_> RudyValencia, no, star wars
[04:36] <RudyValencia> oh
[04:36] <_Techie_> wookie, ewok...
[04:36] <RudyValencia> nah
[04:36] <RudyValencia> how about presidents?
[04:37] <RudyValencia> hm nah
[04:38] <RudyValencia> famous composers!
[04:38] <gravity1187> Mozart
[04:39] <RudyValencia> bach, brahms, mozart, pachelbel, beethoven...
[04:39] <RudyValencia> yeah
[04:39] <RudyValencia> but which to assign to which system(s)?
[04:39] <RudyValencia> that's why I prefer the 'bland' naming scheme
[04:40] <RudyValencia> it's only a small home net anyway
[04:40] <_Techie_> RudyValencia, just start with one machine, assign a name... then move to the next... theyl stick with time
[04:40] <_Techie_> that also reminds me, i need to rename my desktop
[04:41] <RudyValencia> I don't know, I already have everything pretty well set up...
[04:41] <RudyValencia> hm, I need to find an IP block that isn't being used in most places so that when I connect to my VPN I don't end up overlaying a network that exists there
[04:42] <RudyValencia> 10.37.1.x/8 ?
[04:42] <_Techie_> 192.168.15-254.X should be relatively safe
[04:42] <RudyValencia> 192.168.15.x/24 ?
[04:43] <RudyValencia> I had it 192.168.37.x/24
[04:43] <_Techie_> yeah
[04:43] <_Techie_> did you ever run into a conflict with 37?
[04:43] <RudyValencia> I didn't go too many places
[04:43] <RudyValencia> most of them have 192.168.0.x/24 / 192.168.1.x/24
[04:43] <RudyValencia> (the places I know
[04:44] <RudyValencia> hm, maybe that range in 172 might be interesting
[04:45] <RudyValencia> 172.[16-31].x.y/20
[04:45] <RudyValencia> oops
[04:45] <RudyValencia> 172.[16-31].x.y/12
[04:46] <RudyValencia> yeah
[04:47] <RudyValencia> I'll do that
[04:47] <RudyValencia> 172.16.x.y/12
[05:02] <_Techie_> anyone in here know how i can find out what subsystem my cellphone is using?
[05:26] <RudyValencia> How do I set up my server to automount my external hard drive when it's plugged in?
[05:27] <coxn> RudyValencia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Automounting%20%28Ubuntu%20Server%29
[05:27] <RudyValencia> ty
[05:32] <RudyValencia> thanks
[05:38] <RudyValencia> hm, and I have a LaserJet 4 Plus connected to my server, what driver is best to use with CUPS?
[05:39] <RudyValencia> Gutenprint, HPIJS, or...?
[05:39] <RudyValencia> I would assume HPIJS is best as it's from HP
[07:23] <shivraj123> i need to install BT4 tools in my server, some not able to connect to the repo.
[08:24] <sabgenton> hey all I'm trying to do nat between  wlan0 (wan) and  eth0 (lan)
[08:24] <sabgenton> i got it working  undershorewall  and did restarts  clears  and all
[08:24] <sabgenton> still worked
[08:24] <sabgenton> but on restarting the computer
[08:25] <sabgenton> it stoped working!
[08:25] <sabgenton> the firewall can ping out to wan and lan
[08:25] <sabgenton> the lan hosts can see the firewall
[08:26] <sabgenton> but the firewall is not NATing anymore
[08:26] <sabgenton>  tcpdump shows no activity pasing from to lan
[08:26] <sabgenton> now
[08:26] <sabgenton> just  stops at the lan
[08:27] <sabgenton>  and same in reverse  (port fowards stoped working)
[08:27] <sabgenton> .
[08:27] <sabgenton> so in short NAT has stoped
[08:28] <sabgenton> mabye wifi  nics are bugy in linux ?
[08:28] <sabgenton> for this sort of activity
[08:28] <sabgenton> using ath5k driver i think
[08:59] <alvin> How can one *fix* the motd messages you get when logging in through ssh? (Messages are seen double, and also plain wrong)
[09:00] <_Techie_> alvin, disable the motd via /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[09:00] <_Techie_> ubuntu exectues its own motd when you login
[09:00] <_Techie_> thats why you are getting double motd's and one of them is blantantly wrong
[09:01] <alvin> _Techie_: I see. So, I have to do this on every server?
[09:01] <_Techie_> by default the motd is disabled in ubuntu in openssh-server
[09:02] <alvin> Well, there's no mention of it in sshd_config
[09:02] <_Techie_> then add PrintMotd no
[09:03] <alvin> I did, also restarted ssh. Didn't get any error message, but now I can no longer log in. It's a remote server. Now l have to wait until tuesday to fix it.
[09:05] <alvin> There's no other way to log in :-(
[09:07] <trimeta> I want the newest version of iodine, which isn't available in Karmic; there's a package in Debian Unstable, but I'm not sure how I'd use that on my system (possibly with apt-src) without pulling in the rest of Debian Unstable.
[09:11] <_Techie_> !debian
[09:12] <trimeta> _Techie_: I know, but the Ubuntu way of solving this (finding a PPA of the newer version of the package) isn't working.
[09:12] <trimeta> So what else am I supposed to do, download the source and configure; make; make install?
[09:12] <_Techie_> why not build it yourself?
[09:12] <trimeta> I'd like to have apt have some idea of what I'm installing.
[09:13] <trimeta> So it can manage things, maybe even pull in updates for me.
[09:13] <_Techie_> you can build it into a .deb, but im not sure how
[09:28] <kinygos> hi...if i want to be able to send e-mails from my web application (or from the OS to tell me when something has gone wrong), is it enough to install and configure Postfix?  do i need any services from my ISP in this case?
[09:28] <kinygos> (it's a dedicated server)
[09:29] <_Techie_> you will need to make sure that your ISP does not block port 25
[09:29] <_Techie_> if they do, you will need to resuest to have it unblocked for your connection
[09:31] <kinygos> _Techie_: awesome, thanks :)  is it challenging to setup and configure Postfix securely?  i've found what looks like an excellent doc on help.ubuntu.com
[09:31] <_Techie_> once you get your head around it, postfix isnt too hard
[09:31] <kinygos> _Techie_: thanks again for your time...most appreciated :)
[09:31] <_Techie_> kinygos, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[09:32] <kinygos> _Techie_: that's the doc i have :)
[09:33] <_Techie_> well, thats a great guide
[09:33] <_Techie_> i use it to aid me in quickly installing postfi
[09:33] <_Techie_> postfix*
[09:34] <_Techie_> do you have a static IP?
[09:34] <kinygos> _Techie_: yes...it's a dedicated server, but on a tight budget :)
[09:35] <_Techie_> what about a domain name?
[09:35] <kinygos> _Techie_: yep..i have a couple
[09:35] <_Techie_> well then, why not run your own mail server
[09:35] <kinygos> _Techie_: cos that sounds really hard to set up :s
[09:35] <_Techie_> not really
[09:36] <_Techie_> it actually makes setting up SASL authentication easy with postfix
[09:36] <_Techie_> you setup dovecot to authenticate against /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[09:36] <_Techie_> and then you setup postfix to authenticate against dovecot
[09:36] <_Techie_> then you dont have to fiddle around with PAM
[09:37]  * kinygos is quickly looking up these terms
[09:37] <_Techie_> !dovecot
[09:40] <kinygos> _Techie_: i'm learning as i'm going along (and really enjoying it btw)...you make it sound easy...i'll probably be asking questions in this channel :)
[09:40] <_Techie_> well, if im around... ill do my best to answer them
[09:40] <kinygos> _Techie_: thanks again :)  i'm off to do a bunch of reading and try stuff
[09:40] <_Techie_> well, you may want to start with dovecot first
[09:41] <_Techie_> it will make postfix easier
[09:42] <kinygos> _Techie_: :)
[09:48] <kinygos> _Techie_: again, my knowledge is limited here...as the server will be hosting an e-commerce web application, should i be considering POP3 as opposed to IMAP?  there will be less than 10 mailboxes, and probably only 2 clients really using the mail server regularly in the early days
[09:49] <_Techie_> depends on your need
[09:49] <_Techie_> each has its upside and downside
[09:51] <kinygos> ok..i'll read up..thanks :)
[09:56] <_ruben> setting up an email server (sending and/or receiving) is quite trivial, setting up an email server that properly deals with spam and the likes is far from trivial
[09:57] <kinygos> _ruben: that's what i thought...although, perhaps naively, i'm more concerned with my mail server being used as a spam relay
[09:58] <_Techie_> its not hard to disable the relay function
[10:10]  * RoyK think China is going to be slightly pissed off by this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11499098
[11:12] <JamesPage> ttx: I've updated iso.qa.ubuntu.com; noticed bug 656527 which hggdh raised yesterday which I have reproduced manually
[11:12] <JamesPage> ttx: the automated test suite for samba server did not cover this specific test; now fixed and retesting now on amd64 and i386
[11:44] <kinygos> omg...connecting to a share on a windows pc was sooo simple...i thought i was gonna have trouble after that chap yesterday was struggling
[11:44]  * kinygos pats himself on the back then hides
[12:12] <ttx> hggdh: do you have the hardware to cover for the RAID1 tests ? I'm on upgrade testing right now
[13:11] <patdk-wk> ttx, what do the raid1 tests need?
[13:14] <ttx> better with two physical disks
[13:14] <patdk-wk> so just software raid1
[13:14] <ttx> http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerRAID1
[13:14] <ttx> yep
[13:14] <patdk-wk> how I'm running this machine :)
[13:15] <ttx> heh
[13:16] <patdk-wk> this is my only non-hardware raid, cause it's just a workstation
[13:17] <patdk-wk> I could easly do those tests later, in like 6hours
[13:20] <ttx> JamesPage, hggdh: zul and I are checking out the samba issue
[13:20] <JamesPage> ttx: excellent.
[13:21] <zul> looking at it now
[13:21] <JamesPage> ttx: do you want me to pickup one of the raid1 tests?
[13:25] <ttx> JamesPage: if you can, that would be great$
[13:26] <JamesPage> ttx: on it now :-)
[13:26] <ttx> we aim for 100% test coverage
[13:26] <_ruben> bugger, my nfs server is i386, debootstrapping an amd64 root won't work
[13:29] <ttx> JamesPage: you got that sigsegv on amd64 as well, right
[13:30] <JamesPage> ttx: I've not confirmed that manually (only an automated test result)
[13:31] <zul> ttx: same code in git
[13:38] <hggdh> ttx: no, I do not have the hardware, unfortunately
[13:39] <ttx> hmm, can't reproduce :P
[13:40]  * ttx tries on i386
[13:42] <soren> Wow... Installing maverick on an XFS filesystem is /unbelievably/ slow.
[13:43] <soren> Bordering on useless.
[13:46] <zul> ttx: on amd64?
[13:46] <zul> soren: patches accepted ;)
[13:46]  * soren makes a rude gesture
[13:47] <zul> hehe
[13:48] <patdk-wk> soren, reinstall on btrfs? :)
[13:49] <soren> Pain is enough. I don't also need suffering.
[13:51] <zul> ttx: i was able to reproduce it on i386
[13:51] <patdk-wk> I've been running my maverick system on btrfs for months now, haven't had any issues so far :)
[13:52] <soren> My refridgerator also works.
[13:52] <soren> That also does not solve my XFS problem.
[13:53] <patdk-wk> it might, give it a chance :)
[13:53] <patdk-wk> have to deal with vzw today :(
[13:54] <hggdh> ttx: I should have been clear, I did not see the samba issue on amd64
[13:54] <hggdh> sorry
[13:56] <JamesPage> hggdh: I'm not sure I agree; no seg fault on amd64 but the list of SID's returned does not include all accounts
[13:57] <hggdh> JamesPage: then this is still a bug; it is probable, then that amd64 and i386 behave differently on it. Good catch, sir
[13:57] <JamesPage> hggdh: looks like it.
[14:00] <ttx> JamesPage: right
[14:05] <zul> ttx: https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7718 opened upstream
[14:09] <ttx> hmm, on i386 it ~works here
[14:09] <ttx> (behvaes like your amd64
[14:09] <ttx> )
[14:10] <zul> oddd
[14:10] <ttx> maybe depends on username size
[14:10] <zul> whats the username?
[14:10] <ttx> "ttx"
[14:11] <ttx> hhhhmmmm
[14:11] <ttx> if I create another user, it just works
[14:12] <ttx> JamesPage: at best it's strange behavior, but samba works, so I'd consider the test as passed, not failed...
[14:13] <ttx> hggdh: your opinion: ^
[14:14] <hggdh> it looked, for me, like it failed at the end (on i386), but still listed the users. Perhaps a boundary condition
[14:14] <hggdh> ttx: but I agree the test seems to have passed (and I had marked mine as so)
[14:15] <hardfire> anyone working on opennebula ??
[14:15] <ttx> JamesPage: could you change the test result ? I don't think that should be considered a FAIL
[14:17] <hardfire> anyone working on opennebula ??
[14:17] <ttx> hardfire: no
[14:17] <ttx> hardfire: try #opennebula, maybe
[14:18] <hardfire> #opennebula is the most inactive channel i've ever been
[14:18] <ttx> hardfire: sounds a bit more ontopic there though
[14:18] <hardfire> oh! true .. just gave a try to this channel .. anyways .. its related here too!
[14:19] <JamesPage> ttx: OK; I'll update my results.
[14:20] <ttx> JamesPage: strange thing is that if you add other users they are reported correctly.
[14:20] <JamesPage> ttx: hmmm very odd
[14:21] <ttx> also the net USERSIDLIST command is undocumented in man net
[14:21] <ttx> maybe our test is a bit wrong
[14:22] <JamesPage> we could use wbinfo -u instead
[14:22] <ttx> hmm that net command is pretty bad
[14:23] <ttx> so typing net --help, you get: Use 'net help usersidlist' to get more info about 'net usersidlist' commands
[14:23] <ttx> but if you try 'net help usersidlist'...
[14:23] <ttx> it just does te same as if you did net usersidlist
[14:23] <JamesPage> yeah - its not pretty is it.
[14:24] <ttx> looks a bit abandoned.
[14:43] <ttx> hggdh: did you have a bug number for the missing grub rescue bug ?
[14:45] <hggdh> ttx: yes, just a sec
[14:46] <hggdh> ttx: bug 320183
[14:49] <ttx> hggdh, Jamespage: is one of you on the RAID1 tests ?
[14:50] <JamesPage> ttx: I've picked up the i386 RAID1 test; running at the moment.
[14:50] <ttx> if yes, mark it "started" please
[14:50] <ttx> ack
[14:51] <ttx> jdstrand: if hggdh is not on it, you could cover the RAID1/amd64 test, I know you usually find exploding corner cases :)
[14:51] <hggdh> ttx, jdstrand I cannot run the raid tests, no hardware available for it
[14:52]  * ttx is on rescue mode /i386
[14:52] <jdstrand> hggdh: I always just use kvm
[14:52] <hggdh> then I guess I could it it after I finish the current one
[14:53] <Babbla> i must have typed something incorrectly in my crontab commands... how do i view the error infromation from the command attempting to execute? i read somewhere online that it sends mail to root
[14:57] <hggdh> ttx: on the amd64 raid1 test now
[14:57] <ttx> hggdh: great !
[15:04] <patdk-wk> heh? those tests looked like software raid, cause if you had hardware raid, there would be no need to select the raid type or anything in the ubuntu installer
[15:23] <Babbla> why would quotes stop a command that otherwise works fine not work in the crontab?
[15:24] <Pici> Well it depends where the quotes are of course ;)
[15:32] <Babbla> well... it wasn't the quotes it was the %s which i knew i couldn't have without escapes, but i was too focused on the ""s... just thought i'd mention it for others
[15:44] <Doonz> hey guys, is there a way i can install ubuntu over a debian install with only ssh access to the box?
[15:52] <thesheff17> is there anyway easy way to check to make sure SSH is running on a remote machine?
[15:54] <patdk-wk> ps ax | grep sshd
[15:54] <Brumle> thesheff17: yes, there is
[15:55] <Brumle> telnet other.machine 22
[15:55] <patdk-wk> if ssh is on the standard port
[15:55] <thesheff17> patdk-wk that is locally I need it to check it remotely.
[15:56] <patdk-wk> run that command on the remote machine :)
[15:56] <patdk-wk> otherwise your going have to check what ports are open, and telnet to each one
[15:56] <patdk-wk> or hope it's on the default port 22
[15:56] <hggdh> ttx: I cannot set a partition bootable (trying to create the RAID partitions)
[15:56] <thesheff17> Brumle: yea that is what I thought...I would think it would be pretty easy to do in python but what happens when you get stuck in the connection with telnet?
[15:56] <patdk-wk> control ], quit
[15:57] <hggdh> JamesPage: on i386, could you set partitions bootable?
[15:58] <JamesPage> hggdh: I didn't have todo that; guess grub must have fixed it up for me
[16:00] <thesheff17> Ah ok class telnetlib.Telnet([host[, port[, timeout]]]) there is a timeout...thx Brumle
[16:01] <hggdh> JamesPage: OK. I will see what happens here
[16:06] <cfairles> anyone run mysql with innodb plugin 1.0.7?
[16:24] <Doonz> hey guys, is there a way i can install ubuntu over a debian install with only ssh access to the box?
[16:30] <shauno> that sounds a lot like 'danger will robinson' territory.  there *used* to be a supported upgrade path with one or two of the earliest ubuntu releases, but I don't believe it's a good idea anymore
[16:31] <shauno> not sure if supported is the right word there :)
[16:50] <JamesPage> hggdh: how is your RAID1/amd64 test going?
[16:50] <hggdh> JamesPage: still through the install...
[16:51] <JamesPage> hggdh: its quite slow; writing to two virtual disks generates twice as much io to the same underlying disk :-(
[16:52] <JamesPage> hggdb:  the i386 version worked fine; however I was unable to complete the last step as no hot(un)plug as far as I can work out when running in KVM
[16:53] <hggdh> JamesPage: yeah, this is a limitation. I guess the best we can do is force off, detach one of the discs, and boot again
[16:55] <hggdh> JamesPage: yes, it seems grub now marks the partition bootable
[16:57] <JamesPage> hggdh: did you have issues marking it as bootable using the manual partitioning?
[16:57] <hggdh> JamesPage: yes, it simply did not work. At all
[16:58] <JamesPage> hggdh: hmmm - feels like a bug to me but not a significant one.
[16:58] <hggdh> I agree, mostly because we default to grub now. But it would be nice to check
[16:58] <JamesPage> ttx:  RAID1/i386 successfully tested....
[17:05] <Babbla> when selecting DNS during ubuntu-server install does it install bind?
[17:07] <zul> yes
[17:13] <mathiaz> ttx: o/
[17:23] <ahasenack> hi guys, uec on lucid
[17:23] <ahasenack> has anyone ever seen this error in the cloud-debug log file
[17:23] <ahasenack> com.eucalyptus.ws.HttpException: HTTP input line longer than 4096 bytes.
[17:24] <ahasenack> I can't start instances via landscape because of that, the line is about 5k
[17:24] <ahasenack> but this wasn't a problem before (where "before" is some months ago, which was the last time I tried)
[17:28] <hggdh> ttx: AMD64 raid1 test done
[17:29] <ttx> hggdh: yay
[17:29] <ttx> so we are just missing the ESX test
[17:29] <ttx> bladernr: ping
[17:29] <bladernr> ttx:  whattup
[17:29] <hggdh> ttx: on tis one... no can do, no Windows here
[17:30] <ttx> bladernr: was wondering if you plan to cover the "install on ESX" test
[17:30] <bladernr> ttx:  I'm trying to get the ESX ones underway
[17:30] <ttx> bladernr: great ! that's our only missing tests
[17:30] <bladernr> I'm "finally" into the server but having permission issues on the ISOs so I can't actually connect my VM to the ISO image
[17:30] <bladernr> :/
[17:31] <bladernr> so, yeah, I am planning on them, just have to get them underway
[17:31] <ttx> bladernr: in the past I think fader and sbeattie ran that test
[17:32] <bladernr> yeah... heh
[17:32] <bladernr> lucky me...
[17:32] <bladernr> :-)
[17:33] <bladernr> out of curiosity, the JeOS stuff uses the same server ISOs as everything else, yeah?
[17:33] <ttx> bladernr: yes, I think with a F4 option
[17:33] <sbeattie> bladernr: where in the esx' host fs do you have the isos?
[17:33] <ttx> see SVI-002 under http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerMinimalVirtualInstall
[17:34] <bladernr> ttx:  /vmimages/isos
[17:34] <bladernr> when I try to point the VMs cdrom to the ISO, I get a permissions error...
[17:35] <bladernr> the full path (/vmimages/isos/*.iso) is owned root:root and has the right perms all the way down.
[17:35] <bladernr> VIC is complaining about permissions though...
[17:36] <sbeattie> bladernr: hrm.
[17:36]  * sbeattie suspects the karmic isos in /vmfs/volumes/storage2/isos/ can be deleted.
[17:36] <hggdh> ttx: no respin in view for the server? I hope not...
[17:37] <patdk-wk> what iso needs testing, I could give it a go on esxi right now
[17:37] <patdk-wk> either 4.0u1 or 4.1
[17:39] <sbeattie> patdk-wk: ubuntu-server i386/amd64 with the minimal install (f4 at iso boot to select)
[17:39] <sbeattie> esxi 4.x testint would be appreciated, we only have access to 3.5
[17:40] <patdk-wk> 32 or 64? or both?
[17:41] <ttx> hggdh: I hope not either
[17:41] <bladernr> sbeattie:  any ideas?
[17:42] <ttx> hggdh: I might come home early.
[17:42] <gus3> I'm looking at High Availability set on some ubuntu servers. I'm leaning towards HAProxy.  Anyone have any recommendations? Thanks all.
[17:42] <hggdh> ttx: now that does sound good, does it not?
[17:42] <patdk-wk> gus3, that depends on what you want to be HA
[17:43] <patdk-wk> just webservices, ya, haproxy is fine
[17:43] <ttx> it looks pretty good from where I stand
[17:43] <sbeattie> bladernr: can you access any of the iso images in [storage1] or [storage2]?
[17:43] <gus3> apache2 running php
[17:43] <sbeattie> patdk-wk: ideally, testing both 32 and 64.
[17:43] <gus3> I'm new to load balancing and still pretty new with linux.
[17:44] <patdk-wk> I downloaded both, loading now
[17:44] <bladernr> sbeattie:  no... when I try to access anything listed under datastores (storage1, storage2 and vmimages) I get "Permission to perform this operation was denied"
[17:45] <sbeattie> bladernr: what user are you logged in as?
[17:45] <bladernr> enablement
[17:45] <gus3> Ultra Monkey looks to be an interesting choice too. But it looks like development may have stopped on it. I also like that HAProxy has stats displays.
[17:46] <gus3> My final preference is something that resides in the ubuntu repositories.
[17:47] <gus3> Thanks patdk-wk
[17:49] <patdk-wk> hmm, odd, the i386 disk just drops to the isolinux boot: prompt on boot
[17:51] <patdk-wk> same for x64
[17:51] <patdk-wk> oh wait, downloaded wrong mini's :)
[17:51] <bladernr> ttx:  I've got it running now... install underway for 64bit
[17:56]  * hggdh hugs bladernr
[17:56] <patdk-wk> where is the install a minimal virtual system option :)
[17:56] <patdk-wk> f4 just refreshs my screen, but nothing really changes
[18:08] <bladernr> ttx:  on 32bit, should uname -r return a -server kernel as the test case says, or -pae?
[18:09] <ttx> -pae
[18:09] <ttx> -server would be a bug :)
[18:09] <bladernr> ok... well the test case says it should be -server
[18:10] <ttx> bladernr: yep, that's a bit out of date
[18:10] <bladernr> next question... on vmware, should linux-virtual be installed? (again, test case says yes, but dpkg says no)
[18:10] <ttx> the important bit is about -virtual package
[18:10] <ttx> hm
[18:11] <ttx> do you have ubuntu-standard installed ?
[18:11] <bladernr> yep
[18:11] <ttx> looks like you missed step 2
[18:11] <ttx> #
[18:11] <ttx> Press F4 and select Install a minimal virtual system
[18:11] <patdk-wk> I tried that, f4 wouldn't do that
[18:11] <patdk-wk> but f4 in the help menu did display the f4 help page
[18:12] <bladernr> well, maybe so... I know I hit f4 and highlighted it and hit enter... BUT I'm also doing both 32 adn 64bit at the same time...
[18:12] <bladernr> so, I'll redo this one just in case I didn't...
[18:12] <ttx> that triggers the specific seed
[18:12] <ttx> taht points to virtual and avoids installation of ubuntu-standard
[18:13] <ttx> in that F4 case, you end up with a -virtual kernel, rather than -server or -pae
[18:13] <ttx> frankly, if you got that far, that means ESX is ok :) since the test on KVM worked.
[18:14] <ttx> the delta with the previous test is ESX hypervisor,
[18:14] <bladernr> ttx:  so, 2 for 2 now... both installs ended up with ubuntu-standard, not linux-virtual
[18:14] <patdk-wk> same for me
[18:14] <patdk-wk> and I pressed f4
[18:14] <bladernr> 64bit has a -server kernel (that's correct or incorrect for 64bit)
[18:17] <patdk-wk> on boot, installer boot menu, (install, command-line install, advanced options, help)
[18:17] <patdk-wk> pressing f4, causes it to refresh, but still same screen
[18:17] <patdk-wk> pressing any f* does the same thing
[18:18] <patdk-wk> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[18:21] <bladernr> ttx:  yeah... step 2... again, the test case is messed up... it said "select Install Minimal Virtual System" not Virtual Machine... so I picked the one that had the word "System".
[18:21] <patdk-wk> strange, I can't even get that
[18:21]  * bladernr is really getting tired of questionably accurate test cases... (and his own lack of reading comprehension)
[18:22] <patdk-wk> or did I download the wrong mini.iso files :)
[18:23] <sbeattie> patdk-wk: for esx tests we're looking for the minimal install option off of the regular ubuntu-server isos.
[18:24] <patdk-wk> oh normal install, heh, wonder how I got stuck on mini :)
[18:25] <patdk-wk> where are the server iso's hidden :)
[18:25] <RoAkSoAx> jcastro: howdy!! I have a question regarding the blueprint naming schemes. I filed a blueprint such as: server-natty-powernap-improvements. So, I don't see how this blueprint should be renamed. (PowerNap is integrated with the cloud so it could be cloud-server-n, or it is related to reduction of power consumption, so it could also be performance-server-n... or else?)
[18:25] <patdk-wk> I know where the desktop/live and alternate re
[18:25] <patdk-wk> are
[18:26]  * ttx packs up
[18:27] <RoAkSoAx> jcastro: or should it just be other-server-n-powernap-improvements?
[18:27] <jcastro> RoAkSoAx: I think cloud-server-n
[18:28] <jcastro> ttx: whose doing the specs review and stuff for -server?
[18:28] <jcastro> jiboumans or did he assign someone else?
[18:28] <sbeattie> patdk-wk: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/20101007/
[18:29] <ttx> jcastro: jib and robbiew.
[18:32] <RoAkSoAx> jcastro: but if the improvements are not only cloud related, should it go there too, or should I ask jiboumans or robbiew ?
[18:33] <jcastro> RoAkSoAx: I would say make a best-guess estimate and then run it by them
[18:34] <RoAkSoAx> jcastro: ok thanks :)
[18:35] <jcastro> as long as the right people are subbed to the blueprint it doesn't really matter which track it's in in the schedule
[18:36] <RoAkSoAx> haha ok cool thanks :)
[18:36] <jcastro> then they'll either fight over the spec or try to pawn it off on each other, that exercise if left for the reader. :)
[18:38] <patdk-wk> heh, mini.iso downloads so much faster :)
[18:50] <undecim> In DNSMasq, can I set a dhcp-host option with an IP outside dhcp-range?
[18:51] <ncampion> undecim, i believe thats what that setting is for
[18:52] <undecim> Because I have read-ethers and dnsmasq doesn't seem to be reading it. All the IPs are outside of dhcp-range, and I thought that might be the cause.
[18:53] <RoAkSoAx>  /win 17
[18:53] <patdk-wk> ok, redid the esxi tests
[18:54] <patdk-wk> it installs both i386 and x64 no issues, both say linux-virtual/2.6.35-22-virtual
[18:54] <patdk-wk> the x64 though throws some modprobe failed messages up before the login though
[18:55] <patdk-wk> FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.35-22-virtual/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[18:56] <patdk-wk> only other thing that failed is x64 df -h shows / using 519Megs, on i386 it's 499megs
[18:57] <ncampion> undecim, are the dotted-quad IP addresses in /etc/ethers in the same subnet as your dhcp-range?
[18:57] <undecim> ncampion: yes
[18:58] <undecim> ncampion: Maybe I should specify the subnet mask explicitly to make sure?
[18:59] <undecim> Though ifconfig shows that it's /24
[18:59] <undecim> So all the IPs should be fine
[19:00] <ncampion> undecim, as far your initial question, man dnsmasq says "Addresses allocated like this are not constrained to be in the range given by the --dhcp-range option, but they must be in the same subnet as some valid dhcp-range." So, I believe what you are doing should be viable.
[19:00] <patdk-wk> hmm, modules.dep exists, must be an upstart order thing, where it tried modprobe too fast or something, not sure
[19:01] <ncampion> of course, i've done just enough of this to get my routing setup working :-)
[19:02] <undecim> Also, I have local=/wake/, but hostname.wake names don't resolv.
[19:03] <undecim> I've checked resolv.conf, and I'm definitely using the dns server, and even use dig to check, but it's not working.
[19:14] <vinterrymden> Hey all. Got a question. I'm setting up proftpd and I'm not sure where to find the AuthUserFile. Any help is appreciated
[19:25] <n3kl> For some strange reason I can't join #ubuntu-virt
[19:25] <zooko> Folks: I'm upgrading a set of t1.micro EC2 instances from Lucid to Maverick.
[19:26] <zooko> Seems to be working okay. Except: it always says "*** System restart required ***" on login even if I just restarted.
[19:35] <n3kl> I can't seem to get anything to work properly with libvirt on ubuntu.
[19:35] <n3kl> I am building my vms with ubuntu-vm-builder, seems like they get built.  I can see then in virsh list, I can't console to them with virsh console, nothing comes up.
[19:36] <n3kl> When I try to use virt-viewer, the keyboard layout is jacked, like when I press enter, it types a 'j' on the terminal
[19:36] <n3kl> then, I am not sure my netowrk is working, I can see in my dhcp logs that the new host with the mac address has requested and been assigned dhcp but I can't ping the beast
[19:40] <n3kl> Would pasting my xml configurations help?
[19:42] <zooko> Oh,and the motd still identifies itself as 10.04.1.
[19:43] <_ruben> sounds like a fairly busted upgrade
[19:44] <_ruben> zooko: what does lsb_release -a tell you ?
[20:14] <WALoeIII> w/ a PPA can I build multiple versions of the same package? I need 3 nginx 0.7.67s with different modules compiled in
[21:35] <consumerism> anyone use drbd and heartbeat for a highly available nfs server?
[22:00] <Brumle> consumerism: probably someone... what is your question?
[22:02] <kamote> anyone using DDOSdeflate here
[22:02] <aljosa> ruby gems not working on ubuntu 10.4, i always get "HTTP Response 302 fetching http://gems.rubyforge.org/yaml" when i try to update/install or anything else. any idea?
[22:05] <ewook_> hey. somethings fishy with a lot of things after my upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04, screen cannot start, mysql didn't start before but now does, now postfix doesn't start ..
[22:09] <Brumle> ewook_: does any of them give any error messages?
[22:13] <ewook_> Brumle: no. mysql had a init.d-missconfig before, but postfix seems to be bothered by something else right now, anwers on localhost, but not from remote *_*.
[22:14] <ewook_> need to check my ip-tables if something is up..
[22:16] <Brumle> ewook_: add some "-j LOG" if comfortable with iptables :)
[22:18] <ewook_> Brumle: already on it :). just irritated.. all I did was take down everything for three hours - did not think I'd get a bunch of problems from it :P
[22:20] <Brumle> ewook_: old hardware?
[22:22] <ewook_> Brumle: not really. just, it's been upgraded from 8.04 to 10.04.
[22:22] <ewook_> = bad idea for a server.. :p
[22:22] <ewook_> atleast mine.
[22:23] <Brumle> ewook: I see the problem. Good to do in test or stage first....
[22:24] <ewook> I did.. but this one is so full with stuff, that I couldn't really duplicate it :p
[22:24] <ewook> oh well.. seems like I need to rebuild the iptables... used ufw once and those are still in there...
[22:32] <ewook_> mwhah. lol.
[22:32] <ewook_> my router had failed over to my second isp...
[22:33] <soren> ScottK: Hey. I've uploaded a couple of things (a small fix for a bug 657053 and likewise for bug 657047). I really appreciate your ACK on bug 645936, but people failed to deliver the stuff I needed to make that happen, so the only part of that bug that remains true is my intention to SRU the final release of Nova.
[22:33] <ewook_> and that isp is blocking port 25 anywere but to their relay. still, postfix did not start
[22:36] <Edward_Elric>  please helpme to vote
[22:36] <Edward_Elric> http://148.245.35.4/CursoPhp/index.php
[22:36] <Edward_Elric>  :D
[22:36] <Edward_Elric>  is about ubuntu
[22:41] <ewook_> Edward_Elric: seems like a strange request?
[22:45] <shauno> it's a pretty sparse list of options too
[23:51] <dstryr> to see if i configured raid 1 correctly i would just unplug the first drive and see if everything boots correctly right?
[23:54] <dstryr> anyone around who could lend some assistance?
[23:57] <ScottK> soren: It's all accepted now (at least what was in the queue)
[23:58] <ScottK> ewook_: If postfix is responding on localhost, then it is up and running.  There's nothing in Postfix that should have a problem with 8.04 -> 10.04.
[23:59] <ewook_> ScottK: I know ;). but first of - it didn't start - so I started it manually, checked it locally, and then tried to connect to it from the outside - well, the isp I was trying to check from has port 25 blocked if not going thro their relay-server :P