| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| === demond is now known as Guest64247 | ||
| === Guest64247 is now known as demond3 | ||
| demond3 | i've got a problem with my sound card can someone help me im new with linux | 02:10 |
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| likemindead | !sound | 02:11 |
| ubottu | If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. | 02:11 |
| likemindead | Try those first. :D | 02:12 |
| demond3 | thx | 02:13 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| autif | i have a zsync question - if i get the daily build today - i will get the whole 700 MB. When I do the zsync again tomorrow - will I get another 700 MB or just the diff between the two ISO files? | 03:43 |
| charlie-tca__ | I believe just the differences | 03:44 |
| autif | even if there is just one file? | 03:45 |
| autif | nice! | 03:45 |
| charlie-tca__ | It compares what you have to what is on the server and downloads the parts that changed, even though you have a single file | 03:45 |
| Wizard | hi | 08:43 |
| Wizard | is there any civilisated way of browsing/mounting smb in xubuntu? | 09:00 |
| Sysi | gigolo | 09:01 |
| jrmy | is there a python channel? | 09:03 |
| jrmy | yes | 09:03 |
| moetunes | there's #python | 09:04 |
| jrmy | hence yes | 09:04 |
| Wizard | Sysi: that was to me? :D | 09:13 |
| Sysi | yes | 09:13 |
| Sysi | it's installed by default | 09:13 |
| moetunes | !info gigolo | 09:14 |
| ubottu | gigolo (source: gigolo): frontend to manage connections to remote filesystems using GIO/GVfs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-1 (lucid), package size 129 kB, installed size 716 kB | 09:14 |
| moetunes | default in xubuntu | 09:14 |
| Sysi | i've never managed to use that for ssh mounts myself :p | 09:14 |
| moetunes | having no windows here I prefer nfs | 09:15 |
| Sysi | it needs setting up | 09:15 |
| Sysi | sshfs works well | 09:15 |
| moetunes | one file needs editing | 09:15 |
| moetunes | sorry - one per comp | 09:16 |
| moetunes | but I am old school | 09:16 |
| moetunes | different strokes for different folks - it's good that there are options :] | 09:17 |
| Wizard | moetunes: at work i don't have much choice ;) | 09:18 |
| Wizard | thanks Sysi | 09:18 |
| Sysi | np | 09:18 |
| Sysi | i'm considering opensuse atm | 09:19 |
| Wizard | heh | 09:19 |
| Wizard | it'll be killed soon | 09:19 |
| Sysi | it was rather nice | 09:20 |
| moetunes | suse does do the "no command line" thing very well | 09:20 |
| Sysi | i onle do basic stuff on cli | 09:21 |
| Sysi | * only | 09:21 |
| moetunes | the bootloader thing they have was impressive last time I tried it | 09:22 |
| Sysi | suse just isn't really xfce-distribution | 09:22 |
| moetunes | kde or gnome mostly | 09:23 |
| Sysi | i *could* use kde | 09:23 |
| moetunes | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSJyJ9JuY5E ? - impressed me - scared of the resources it would use tho | 09:24 |
| moetunes | kubuntu^^ | 09:24 |
| Sysi | *buntu isn't really kde distro :P | 09:24 |
| Wizard | hmm | 09:25 |
| Sysi | though it worked well | 09:25 |
| Wizard | i thing xubuntu is the best option right now | 09:25 |
| Sysi | jockey-gtk gave me a bit of headache | 09:25 |
| Wizard | what is jockey? :> | 09:26 |
| moetunes | another middleman app... | 09:26 |
| Sysi | argh, what is it in english menu | 09:27 |
| Wizard | languages? | 09:27 |
| Sysi | propietary drivers installer | 09:27 |
| Wizard | ah | 09:27 |
| moetunes | !info kockey-gtk | 09:28 |
| ubottu | Package kockey-gtk does not exist in lucid | 09:28 |
| Wizard | i don't use that | 09:28 |
| moetunes | !info jockey-gtk | 09:28 |
| ubottu | jockey-gtk (source: jockey): GNOME user interface and desktop integration for driver management. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.8-0ubuntu8.1 (lucid), package size 8 kB, installed size 156 kB | 09:28 |
| jrmy | is there a way to update xchat with a command? | 09:39 |
| Sysi | "update"? | 09:40 |
| Wizard | apt-get upgrade xchat | 09:41 |
| moetunes | update the installed app or what's coming in from channels jrmy ? | 09:41 |
| jrmy | installed app | 09:41 |
| moetunes | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade will upgrade everything - using synaptic you can update and check for new version | 09:43 |
| moetunes | ubuntu doesn't generally upgrade apps between releases - is the backports repo enabled jrmy ? | 09:44 |
| jrmy | i should start typing in all of these commands | 09:44 |
| jrmy | i dont know | 09:44 |
| jrmy | brb | 09:44 |
| jrmy | moetunes: explain backports repo | 10:36 |
| moetunes | !backports | 10:36 |
| ubottu | If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging | 10:36 |
| moetunes | jrmy: ^^ | 10:37 |
| moetunes | does it better then i could ... | 10:37 |
| jrmy | how would i enable it? | 10:38 |
| jrmy | well it didnt upgrade anything so i dot think that works for xchat | 10:40 |
| moetunes | well lets start with the xubuntu version you have - if it is the current backports won't help much | 10:41 |
| moetunes | !version | 10:41 |
| ubottu | To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> » | 10:41 |
| Sysi | why do you need newer xchat? | 10:42 |
| moetunes | jrmy: ^^ | 10:46 |
| jrmy | idk.. i'd just assume it would be better | 10:48 |
| Sysi | erp | 10:48 |
| jrmy | im confused why it says i still have ubuntu yet i dont have anything of ubuntu installed anymore | 10:49 |
| jrmy | that i know of | 10:49 |
| Sysi | !xubuntu | 10:50 |
| ubottu | Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels | 10:50 |
| Sysi | that's why | 10:50 |
| jrmy | but i dont have gnome | 10:50 |
| jrmy | i already installed xubuntu | 10:50 |
| jrmy | i suppose i can try again | 10:50 |
| Sysi | "Xubuntu is Ubuntu..." | 10:51 |
| jrmy | i see | 10:51 |
| Sysi | what part is hard in that | 10:51 |
| jrmy | is the system monitor suppose to be a part of xubuntu? | 10:52 |
| jrmy | in this it says gnome 2.30.2 | 10:52 |
| Sysi | in 10.04, it's installed by default | 10:53 |
| jrmy | idk i dont understand i guess | 10:53 |
| moetunes | xubuntu has the same base as ubuntu - xubuntu uses xfce where ubuntu uses gnome - some gnome apps are in xubuntu 'causes xfce uses gtk like gnome but is short of some things | 10:55 |
| moetunes | !gtk | 10:55 |
| ubottu | GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI | 10:55 |
| moetunes | !xfce | 10:55 |
| ubottu | Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels | 10:55 |
| moetunes | !gnome | 10:56 |
| ubottu | GNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal. | 10:56 |
| moetunes | and to show the amazing choice gnu/linux has | 10:56 |
| moetunes | !fluxbox | 10:56 |
| ubottu | fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox | 10:56 |
| jrmy | !gnu | 10:58 |
| ubottu | G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org | 10:58 |
| jrmy | !unix | 10:58 |
| ubottu | UNIX is an operating system created in the '70s, which has many direct derivates and inspired systems like Minix and !Linux. Most "UNIX-style" systems try to somewhat adhere to the POSIX standard. | 10:58 |
| Sysi | !bsd | 10:58 |
| Sysi | bah | 10:59 |
| jrmy | what was the first unix os called? | 10:59 |
| jrmy | unix? | 10:59 |
| moetunes | yep | 10:59 |
| Sysi | nowdays it's just license | 10:59 |
| jrmy | so thats ancient history? | 11:00 |
| jrmy | unix | 11:00 |
| Sysi | operating system created in the '70s | 11:00 |
| moetunes | no it is still used - you have to pat for it tho | 11:00 |
| jrmy | pat? | 11:01 |
| moetunes | *pay | 11:01 |
| jrmy | oh | 11:01 |
| jrmy | so with linux they wanted to make it free | 11:01 |
| jrmy | i see | 11:01 |
| moetunes | a dude named Linus made his own unix - lin + nix | 11:02 |
| Sysi | just kernel | 11:02 |
| jrmy | !kernel | 11:02 |
| ubottu | The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages | 11:02 |
| Sysi | and then they started to use it in gnu-os | 11:02 |
| moetunes | linux kernel to access the hardware plus opensource apps = where we are now | 11:04 |
| moetunes | chatting in irc for no cost :} | 11:05 |
| jrmy | is gnu in gnu a name? | 11:05 |
| jrmy | it says gnu's not unix | 11:05 |
| Sysi | gnu names ♥ | 11:06 |
| jrmy | because that part confuses me | 11:06 |
| Sysi | gimp, gnu image manipulator | 11:06 |
| Sysi | gnu, gnu's not unix | 11:06 |
| jrmy | so gnu is basically a name | 11:06 |
| moetunes | in the open source world there are lots of self referencing acronyms - gnu is not unix | 11:06 |
| Sysi | wine, wine's not an emulator | 11:06 |
| moetunes | Gnu Is Not Unix | 11:06 |
| jrmy | wait wine isnt a emulator? | 11:07 |
| Sysi | yes | 11:07 |
| Sysi | as name says | 11:07 |
| jrmy | i totally dont understand wine then | 11:07 |
| jrmy | is unix easy to use liek windows? | 11:08 |
| jrmy | like* | 11:08 |
| jrmy | more user friendly in one sense | 11:08 |
| jrmy | and or not very complicated to use | 11:08 |
| moetunes | when you first used windows you had to learn how to use a mouse and install stuff - same in linux distros' - you need to learn a couple of things | 11:10 |
| moetunes | if you tried to use a mac you would need to learn some stuff | 11:11 |
| jrmy | then I'm thinking it wil take me a few years to get used to ubuntu | 11:12 |
| jrmy | it would probably be dumb to swtich to another distro at this point | 11:12 |
| jrmy | switch* | 11:12 |
| moetunes | depend on what you want to do - mostly it is just learning that apps are free and in the package manager and how to use the package manager | 11:13 |
| moetunes | in windows if you install a new app you have to learn it - nothing different here | 11:14 |
| jrmy | my main use for a computer is games and everyday web browsing | 11:15 |
| jrmy | like email checking and facebook | 11:16 |
| jrmy | the games part is lacking for my old and low end computer | 11:16 |
| jrmy | wine wont work with most of the old games ive tried | 11:16 |
| jrmy | or X crashes | 11:16 |
| jrmy | dont know what hardware problems i coudl have | 11:17 |
| jrmy | not my ram however since ive checked for errors | 11:17 |
| moetunes | that sounds like either the card can't do the game or you need a better graphics driver | 11:18 |
| jrmy | i have 8MB and ive been playing games at most that need this much | 11:18 |
| moetunes | for wine I would check the appdb to see if it is supported | 11:18 |
| moetunes | !appdb | 11:18 |
| ubottu | The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help | 11:18 |
| jrmy | so i perhaps my graphics driver lacks | 11:18 |
| jrmy | apparently sin, red alert, and incoming are suppose to work | 11:19 |
| moetunes | at 8mb I don't think it would - old cards have good support unless they are sis afaik | 11:19 |
| jrmy | remind me what afaik means again | 11:19 |
| moetunes | as far as I know | 11:19 |
| jrmy | and sis? | 11:20 |
| moetunes | sis is a brand of video card - in terminal lspci will tell what you use | 11:20 |
| moetunes | it'll be near the end of what that command returns | 11:21 |
| jrmy | actually the end shows other stuff | 11:22 |
| jrmy | the first three talk about the graphics | 11:22 |
| moetunes | k | 11:22 |
| jrmy | unless host bridge is something else | 11:22 |
| moetunes | host bridge IS something else | 11:22 |
| jrmy | ok | 11:22 |
| jrmy | then yeah it says vga compatible controller and display controller | 11:23 |
| moetunes | the one with vga in it | 11:23 |
| moetunes | yep :] | 11:23 |
| jrmy | since i have a laptop i have both i assume | 11:23 |
| jrmy | which the 2 are obvious for there uses | 11:24 |
| moetunes | if you have somewhere to plug in an external monitor then yep | 11:24 |
| jrmy | right | 11:24 |
| jrmy | i have a parallel and a serial port too | 11:24 |
| jrmy | which i dont know what serial is used for | 11:24 |
| moetunes | parallel is printer port | 11:25 |
| jrmy | i know | 11:25 |
| jrmy | i said i dot know what serial is used for | 11:25 |
| jrmy | dont* | 11:25 |
| jrmy | i really wish i could boot with a usb device | 11:25 |
| moetunes | serial is for add on devices rarely used by most folk | 11:25 |
| jrmy | ok | 11:26 |
| moetunes | sounds like the hardware is too old for that | 11:26 |
| jrmy | is there any way to enable this? | 11:26 |
| jrmy | ive heard its dumb to flash a new bios | 11:26 |
| jrmy | i think one of my friends are knowledgeable enough to do so | 11:26 |
| moetunes | I have heard there is an app you can use on a floppy disk to help that but I know nothing about it | 11:27 |
| jrmy | well i have a floppy drive | 11:27 |
| jrmy | and a whole bunch of used floppy discs | 11:27 |
| jrmy | which are just sitting around doing nothing | 11:28 |
| jrmy | i dotn think i have enough of them to install a different os though | 11:28 |
| jrmy | since each are 1.44MB | 11:28 |
| jrmy | lol | 11:28 |
| moetunes | hehe | 11:28 |
| jrmy | i might have about 20 of them however | 11:30 |
| moetunes | they do rot quick ... | 11:31 |
| jrmy | 28.8MB lol | 11:31 |
| jrmy | well i dont know how old they are anyways | 11:31 |
| jrmy | which they are probably useless | 11:32 |
| jrmy | i wonder how big windows 98 is | 11:32 |
| moetunes | 256mb iirc | 11:32 |
| moetunes | or one install I did was | 11:33 |
| jrmy | yeah i wouldnt have enough space that way | 11:34 |
| jrmy | heh | 11:34 |
| jrmy | i'd need more like 200 floppies | 11:34 |
| jrmy | lol | 11:34 |
| moetunes | sounds like you don't have a cd drive? | 11:34 |
| jrmy | i do | 11:35 |
| jrmy | i just dont have discs | 11:35 |
| moetunes | ok :] | 11:35 |
| jrmy | if i had some cd's i could burn them with my desktop | 11:35 |
| jrmy | but yeah i only have dvd+r's | 11:35 |
| jrmy | which is useless to me | 11:35 |
| moetunes | there are other ways to install but they can be complicated | 11:38 |
| jrmy | ah | 11:38 |
| moetunes | !install | 11:38 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate | 11:38 |
| jrmy | !automate | 11:40 |
| ubottu | Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning | 11:40 |
| jrmy | well if that floppy drive thing would work then i'd try that | 11:40 |
| jrmy | since my original plan was to try other distros not install them | 11:41 |
| moetunes | I've only heard about it in passing on irc - I don't have any floppy drives here at all | 11:42 |
| jrmy | well i can take a long journey with google i suppose | 11:42 |
| moetunes | I would recommend using www.google.com/linux | 11:43 |
| moetunes | instead of just www.google.com | 11:43 |
| jrmy | that exists? | 11:44 |
| moetunes | yep | 11:44 |
| moetunes | mostly what I use | 11:44 |
| moetunes | has a penguin on it | 11:45 |
| jrmy | i just might replace my default search engine with that | 11:45 |
| moetunes | :] | 11:45 |
| mark76 | I've figured out why Xfce/Xubuntu keeps crashing | 12:22 |
| mark76 | It's Xfwm | 12:24 |
| mark76 | Hey DBeets | 12:29 |
| DBeets | Hi | 12:29 |
| DBeets | I never did get that figured out. I just went with a new window. | 12:29 |
| mark76 | Xfwm has been making my xfce session crash | 12:29 |
| Sysi | xfwm pretty much is xfce-session | 12:30 |
| mark76 | I'm running openbox with xfce4-session, xfdesktop and xfce4-panel and it's working just fine | 12:30 |
| mark76 | Apart from having to use the 3 finger salute to log out | 12:31 |
| mark76 | Now all I have to do is find out why xfwm4 is misbehaing | 12:31 |
| mark76 | misbehaving | 12:31 |
| mark76 | I think you can only change tab names on a per session basis DBeets | 12:31 |
| mark76 | If I run xfwm4 --replace the session will crash | 12:33 |
| DBeets | Yeah, you'd think there would be a command to at least open a new tab and run a command. | 12:35 |
| DBeets | Or can;t the shell interact that way? | 12:35 |
| jrmy | will it work if you do it with tty? | 12:35 |
| mark76 | I was right | 12:35 |
| mark76 | xfwm4 did crash the session | 12:36 |
| Sysi | mark76: try removing xfwm config | 12:36 |
| Sysi | some themes make xfwm crash | 12:36 |
| mark76 | Is xfwm config in ~/.config? | 12:36 |
| Sysi | under there | 12:36 |
| mark76 | I can't see it in the .config folder. Home? | 12:38 |
| Sysi | locate xfwm | grep home | 12:38 |
| mark76 | There's a xfwm4 folder in the .config/xfce4 folder. But it's empty | 12:39 |
| mark76 | I deleted it :/ | 12:40 |
| mark76 | BRB | 12:40 |
| mark76 | Nope. That wasn't it | 12:42 |
| mark76 | There's definitely no xfwm4 config file in my home directory | 12:44 |
| Sysi | did you try that locate | 12:45 |
| mark76 | Yep | 12:45 |
| Sysi | interesting | 12:45 |
| mark76 | It just lead me to the xfwm4 folder in the xfe4 folder in the .config folder | 12:45 |
| mark76 | Which was empty | 12:45 |
| mark76 | I've removed and reinstalled xfwm | 12:48 |
| mark76 | BRB | 12:48 |
| mark76 | Nope, Sysi. It doesn't even get to the desktop | 12:51 |
| jrmy | probably dumb if i give advise | 12:52 |
| Sysi | have you tried creating new user? | 12:52 |
| jrmy | since i barely know anything | 12:52 |
| mark76 | Can I create a new user in another desktop environment? | 12:52 |
| Sysi | yes | 12:53 |
| mark76 | What's the command? | 12:53 |
| Sysi | adduser | 12:54 |
| mark76 | Oh that. Hang on | 12:54 |
| mark76 | BRB | 12:54 |
| jrmy | moetunes: will this work for all distro's? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/ | 12:55 |
| moetunes | jrmy: not something I've tried but from a quivk read it does seem straight forward | 12:57 |
| jrmy | ok | 12:57 |
| jrmy | any idea what PDL is? | 12:57 |
| jrmy | !PDL | 12:57 |
| moetunes | I would keep that link open on another comp while trying tho - just for the troubleshooting stuff etc | 12:57 |
| jrmy | right | 12:58 |
| DBeets | This is going to out myself as a newb but, can you seach in a man page? | 12:58 |
| jrmy | or right it down on paper | 12:58 |
| Sysi | jrmy: why would you need that? | 12:58 |
| moetunes | jrmy: pdl = pen drive linux | 12:58 |
| DBeets | s/seach/search | 12:58 |
| jrmy | Sysi: i cant boot from usb with my computer | 12:58 |
| Sysi | then you really don't need pdl? | 12:59 |
| jrmy | ok so i need to rename the volume's label? | 12:59 |
| Sysi | oh that was that hack | 12:59 |
| moetunes | DBeets: I do man appname | grep somethingIwant | 12:59 |
| jrmy | Sysi: ok then how else will i boot from usb? | 12:59 |
| Sysi | why do you need to? | 13:00 |
| Sysi | you can ofc try if that works | 13:00 |
| moetunes | Sysi: it it about jrmy using a floppy to help him boot a usb | 13:00 |
| Mark76 | Hello again Sysi | 13:00 |
| Mark76 | I'm using a different user | 13:00 |
| jrmy | i want to try other os' and i want to install a different os on my desktop | 13:00 |
| Mark76 | And everything is working fine | 13:00 |
| Sysi | jrmy: cd-rw? | 13:01 |
| jrmy | Sysi: i dont have any nor can i afford any | 13:01 |
| jrmy | im kinda jobless | 13:01 |
| jrmy | i have a perfectly capable 8GB flash drive | 13:02 |
| moetunes | working with what you have is a nice intellectual challenge :] | 13:02 |
| jrmy | why get anything more? | 13:02 |
| DBeets | moetunes: perfect thanks | 13:02 |
| Sysi | ..is there grub menu in installation discs | 13:02 |
| Sysi | tarball installation images are kinda rare afaik | 13:03 |
| jrmy | are you talking to me Sysi? | 13:03 |
| Sysi | i guess | 13:03 |
| jrmy | well i have no idea one way or another | 13:03 |
| jrmy | im not even all that sure what grub is anyways | 13:04 |
| jrmy | !grub | 13:04 |
| ubottu | grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. | 13:04 |
| Mark76 | How do I restore the power to use xfce/xubuntu session to myself Sysi? | 13:06 |
| Sysi | Mark76: you couls copy .config | 13:08 |
| Sysi | or removing it entrely might works | 13:08 |
| Mark76 | What? All of it? | 13:08 |
| Sysi | the folder | 13:09 |
| Mark76 | Okay... | 13:10 |
| Sysi | that will destroy some of your settings | 13:10 |
| Mark76 | BRB | 13:10 |
| moetunes | there is a .config xfce | 13:10 |
| moetunes | there is a .config/xfce | 13:10 |
| jrmy | ok i have no idea how to get pdl | 13:14 |
| moetunes | from the link you gave earlier - http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-pendrive-linux-install-from-windows/ | 13:15 |
| moetunes | it says - This tutorial assumes your using the Pendrive Linux version located HERE | 13:15 |
| moetunes | HERE is a link | 13:15 |
| moetunes | oohh it needs windows... | 13:16 |
| jrmy | i dont see anything about a linux installation | 13:16 |
| jrmy | yeah | 13:17 |
| jrmy | and from the looks of it pendrivelinux is an os | 13:17 |
| moetunes | http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | 13:17 |
| moetunes | Universal USB Installer is a Live Linux USB Creator that allows you to choose from a selection of Linux Distributions to put on your USB Flash Drive | 13:18 |
| moetunes | quote unquote :] | 13:18 |
| moetunes | sorry it needs windows too | 13:19 |
| moetunes | !unetbootin | 13:20 |
| ubottu | For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 13:20 |
| moetunes | prob won't help with the floppy bit tho | 13:20 |
| jrmy | already have unetbootin | 13:21 |
| moetunes | here we go then - http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ 1/3 the way down | 13:23 |
| jrmy | already there | 13:24 |
| jrmy | lol | 13:24 |
| moetunes | heh | 13:24 |
| Sysi | grub2 can boot to iso images | 13:24 |
| Sysi | you could try that | 13:25 |
| jrmy | !grub2 | 13:25 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10. For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 13:25 |
| jrmy | brb | 13:26 |
| jrmy | back | 13:27 |
| jrmy | well i already have the pc/bios version installed | 13:28 |
| jrmy | is there another version i'd need? | 13:28 |
| jrmy | im searching for it with the software center | 13:29 |
| Sysi | read the manual | 13:29 |
| jrmy | ok so i can boot from a iso on my harddrive with grub2 | 13:35 |
| bazhang | yes | 13:35 |
| jrmy | so i guess all i need to do is figure out how to make it boot from an iso | 13:36 |
| bazhang | the grub2 links tell that | 13:36 |
| jrmy | i dont see where | 13:39 |
| jrmy | ive also been in the grub2 menu or whatever before | 13:40 |
| jrmy | ive done memory tests before | 13:40 |
| jrmy | i didnt know what it was though | 13:40 |
| jrmy | i thought it was called recovery mode or somethin | 13:41 |
| jrmy | how hard is it to have more then one linux distros installed? | 13:42 |
| jrmy | oh yeah i can use unetbootin to make the iso on the hdd | 13:44 |
| Sysi | not hard, you just need to configure grub | 13:44 |
| jrmy | ok | 13:45 |
| jrmy | ok all of the "configurng grub2" makes little to no sense | 13:47 |
| jrmy | are you sure the link tells me how? | 13:47 |
| Sysi | it should | 13:47 |
| jrmy | maybe i hould just use unetbootin | 13:48 |
| jrmy | should* | 13:48 |
| mark76 | Well, I've got Xfce sorted out properly now | 13:48 |
| jrmy | good | 13:48 |
| jrmy | seems simplish to change the "splash" for grub | 13:49 |
| jrmy | but anything else i dont even begin to undertsand | 13:50 |
| jrmy | understand* | 13:50 |
| Adriasil | hello all. | 13:51 |
| mark76 | Can we expect any new themes in Xubuntu 10.10? | 13:51 |
| mark76 | Hello Adriasil | 13:51 |
| Sysi | default theme is new in 10.10 | 13:52 |
| mark76 | Damn I hate this empathy theme | 13:52 |
| mark76 | Cool | 13:52 |
| mark76 | Not that I don't like Albatross :p | 13:52 |
| Adriasil | I'm booting Knoppix now, to see if that works. | 13:54 |
| Adriasil | :D | 13:54 |
| Adriasil | all is going well so far. | 13:54 |
| jrmy | ok that didnt work | 14:02 |
| jrmy | when i tried boot /dev/sdb1 it said no kernal loaded | 14:03 |
| jrmy | in the grub command line | 14:04 |
| Adriasil | theoretically, how long should it take to start up? | 14:10 |
| charlie-tca | theoretically - 10 seconds or less | 14:11 |
| jrmy | i assume you arent talking to me | 14:11 |
| charlie-tca | reality - 1-2 minutes | 14:11 |
| Adriasil | no. | 14:11 |
| Adriasil | hmmm.... | 14:11 |
| Adriasil | 15 mins= something's wrong. | 14:11 |
| jrmy | 1-2 minutes? sheesh | 14:11 |
| Adriasil | Gao~ | 14:11 |
| jrmy | mine takes 20 seconds at most | 14:12 |
| Adriasil | mmkay. | 14:12 |
| Adriasil | if knoppix doesn't work it means I'm doing something wrong.......... | 14:13 |
| jrmy | !SMM | 14:19 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| mark76 | Is there anywhere I can see a preview of the new look for Xubuntu Maverick? | 15:41 |
| likemindead | http://duckduckgo.com/?q=Xubuntu+10.10+screenshots | 15:42 |
| charlie-tca | !shimmer | 15:42 |
| likemindead | As usual, the default stuff is pretty lame. | 15:43 |
| mark76 | I like the new theme | 15:43 |
| mark76 | The previous one was a bit Goth :p | 15:43 |
| jrmy | eh i like 10.04 more | 15:48 |
| jrmy | so more then likely i wont upgrade | 15:48 |
| Sysi | i've never liked albatross, new one is cool but very blue | 15:49 |
| mark76 | Black | 15:49 |
| jrmy | i like my desktop dark.. bugs me if it is bright and colorful | 15:49 |
| DBeets | dark is easier on the eys as well | 15:50 |
| jrmy | agreed | 15:50 |
| charlie-tca | reality check. Dark is harder for the eyes to distinguish. That's why paper is white | 15:50 |
| mark76 | Indeed | 15:50 |
| Sysi | light is just boring, colourful irritating | 15:50 |
| jrmy | i can read black with white letters just fine | 15:50 |
| jrmy | preference either way | 15:51 |
| DBeets | indeed | 15:52 |
| autif | best things about 10.4 - it will be supported until 13.4 | 16:35 |
| autif | so - use 10.10 for test machines, 10.4 for server/dev machines | 16:36 |
| AtariMoe | Quick question... will the final release of Xubuntu 10.10 ship on the 10th as well? | 17:08 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 17:08 |
| AtariMoe | thought so... thanks | 17:08 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 17:08 |
| thismamacooks200 | is there a chat room for help with gyachi improved? | 17:11 |
| jrmy | is there a site i can get xubuntu on disc for free? | 17:13 |
| jrmy | !xubuntucd | 17:47 |
| jrmy | !xubuntu-cd | 17:47 |
| jrmy | hmmm | 17:48 |
| Sysi | afaik canonical don't support sending xubuntu-discs | 17:48 |
| Sysi | ..propably official cd:s don't exist | 17:48 |
| charlie-tca | jrmy: free cd's are not available for Xubuntu | 17:48 |
| charlie-tca | However, there is a company that will ship one for cost | 17:49 |
| choi | how can i block certain ports using firehol? the manual is too complicated | 17:49 |
| charlie-tca | !xubuntu | 17:49 |
| ubottu | Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels | 17:49 |
| jrmy | yeah shipping costs is all you pay for | 17:50 |
| jrmy | !xubuntu-channels | 17:50 |
| ubottu | Support: #xubuntu | Developer Discussion: #xubuntu-devel | Offtopic chatter: #xubuntu-offtopic | 17:50 |
| charlie-tca | I never used firehol | 17:51 |
| choi | no problem. i think few people know it because of its complexity. | 17:52 |
| charlie-tca | What about using UFW? | 17:52 |
| choi | i'm thinking of replacing it | 17:52 |
| choi | i need it for it to function with dansguardian | 17:52 |
| charlie-tca | It is pretty simple, but can do everything, I think | 17:53 |
| choi | yeah i used to use ufw. very simple config. but i need firehol for dansguardian an internet filter | 17:53 |
| thismamacooks200 | Hi I am new and could use some help please | 18:15 |
| charlie-tca | !help | 18:15 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 18:15 |
| thismamacooks200 | I have Linux and am using gyachi for voice chat but cannot get the sound to work...help plz | 18:17 |
| charlie-tca | !info gyachi | 18:18 |
| ubottu | Package gyachi does not exist in lucid | 18:18 |
| charlie-tca | Is the Linux you are using Xubuntu? | 18:19 |
| charlie-tca | and where did you install gyachi from? | 18:19 |
| thismamacooks200 | I have that installed on my system | 18:19 |
| charlie-tca | How can I install it? | 18:20 |
| thismamacooks200 | I installed gyachi from source | 18:20 |
| charlie-tca | Then it is possible not all the dependencies are installed. You would need to check where you got it from and see what packages are required for it to work. | 18:21 |
| thismamacooks200 | http://sourceforge.net/projects/gyachi/ | 18:21 |
| charlie-tca | Did you try using orca? | 18:21 |
| thismamacooks200 | I really want voice chat and music to play | 18:22 |
| charlie-tca | Okay. I can't help with gyachi | 18:22 |
| thismamacooks200 | tahnk you very much for trying | 18:22 |
| charlie-tca | music plays fine here with parole | 18:22 |
| charlie-tca | no, exaile, rather | 18:22 |
| charlie-tca | I don't have voice chat capablility | 18:23 |
| thismamacooks200 | do either of those work with yahoo chat | 18:23 |
| * charlie-tca shrugs | 18:23 | |
| charlie-tca | I don't know. I don't have chat | 18:23 |
| thismamacooks200 | tyvm | 18:23 |
| zerothis2 | my login screen shows only an icon and the name of my computer, shutdown options, time/date, and the universal access preferences icon; no users (but there are over ten of us). | 20:41 |
| charlie-tca | when did that start? | 20:42 |
| === strog_ is now known as Guest38396 | ||
| tarek_ | hello people, i just have freshly installed xubuntu and have a problem with the resolution | 23:12 |
| tarek_ | my nvidia card always gives me a low resolution, so i change it back to the desired resolution (which works) but after a new boot i get the old default resolution | 23:13 |
| tarek_ | any idea y? | 23:14 |
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