=== LinoSP is now known as LinoSP|away [03:54] It keeps on blowing my mind how complete this OS really is, I'm searching for additional functions online that I used to have with windows, and find out that particular program is built into another program... wow [03:55] err.. function is built into another program already on the os [10:43] Does anyone know of a "main notification" panel application that works under lubuntu? [10:43] main should be mail sorry [11:43] hello [11:49] just wondering is this is a known issue, I installed Lubuntu 10.04, had the kernel updated from 2.6.32-21 to 2.6.32-25 and when I boot that kernel, it just seems to end up in a kernel panic during boot [11:49] caps/scroll blinking on keyboard [11:52] W3ird_N3rd: try to boot from the recover mode [11:54] I admit I didn't try that. I just booted the old kernel again [11:55] and I've frozen the kernel package [11:55] well lucky u still have the old do never remove ur old ones [12:00] still strange that such a minor jump would end up in a kernel panic. makes me think something went wrong in the update process [12:01] but otherwise lubuntu is great. I'm now chatting, browsing and listening to music on a Celeron 500Mhz laptop with 384MB RAM. :) [12:04] haha yeh me too even lately i noticed its lil slowy tho [12:04] or mybe this coolness doesnt feed my needs anymore LOL ( i need sumthin lighter) [12:07] kosaidpo, arch bang ;) [12:12] kosaidpo, DSL :P [12:12] yehh the other day i read abt archlinux but its kinda not easy to install for me [12:12] since its all in cmd [12:13] bioterror: archbang its like archlinux in the install [12:13] W3ird_N3rd: dsl ?? [12:13] yeah\ [12:13] W3ird_N3rd: you mean desole [12:13] http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ [12:13] kosaidpo, it's more like crunchbang but much better [12:15] ahh but icant install it via the cmd i need to lear abt partionin and stuff via the cmd [12:15] but I like the fact lubuntu still supports pretty much all stuff I need, like WiFi with WPA2 (within the GUI) [12:15] something like that won't happen with DSL [12:16] archbang uses graphical installer [12:16] bioterror: ohh isi t lighter then lubuntu and how about the feature are they like lubuntu ? [12:17] text-based installer, at least the one for Debian and Ubuntu, isn't much harder than the GUI installer. It just doesn't look as pretty. [12:17] W3ird_N3rd: well tthen if thers no gui and other stuff ill end up in blakc screen : D [12:17] :D [12:18] I don't know arch, I would assume you get X after installation? [12:18] still, you can get lighter than that [12:19] actually archbang is all against what arch linux itself is all about [12:19] make a minimum debian install and browse with lynx, play music with mpg123.. [12:19] and IRC with whatever textbased client you can find [12:20] :D [12:20] with telnet [12:20] haha [12:20] browser web also with telnet [12:20] damn [12:20] I actually do use lynx sometimes. Not because it's practical but just because I can. [12:21] I prefer links, but sometimes lynx is more handy [12:22] what telnet what ikno its a protocol is it ?? noob me : ( [12:22] telnet www.google.com 80 [12:23] then you can say "show" without "" [12:23] :-) [12:23] bioterror: ??? [12:25] kosaidpo, you type "telnet www.google.com 80" in a terminal [12:26] although that's not very useful, it seems you can't give any GET arguments [12:28] ahh so is t broswer in tht cmd line ?? right ? [12:28] no [12:28] try it and you'll understand [12:29] telnet: could not resolve http://www.google.com/80: Name or service not known [12:29] W3ird_N3rd: see wht i get [12:29] i was right its protocol : ) [12:29] you should enter only "telnet www.google.com 80" [12:29] no http [12:30] what did you enter exactly? [12:30] well icpy n paste n it replace it with http but now ityped it n its loadin sumthin hang on [12:31] :D [12:31] its takin forever tho [12:31] when it says "escape character is" [12:31] you type "show" and press enter [12:32] personally I would prefer wget over this solution :P [12:33] Your client has issued a malformed or illegal request. [12:33] haha i can the html [12:34] thats so not pretty dude i live in 2010 not 1960 : D [12:34] i shud take advantage tho of this progress dont you think ?? uhn [12:34] yes [12:35] from now on you should always browse everything with telnet [12:35] so you don't have to buy memory upgrades anymore [12:35] W3ird_N3rd: haha why so noo im not for it im against its ugly [12:35] thats why isaid i live in 2010 not 1960 [12:36] as in this is the way for those who lived in this period [12:36] well you're as old as you feel, that's what they say. [12:37] W3ird_N3rd: hahaha but not that far to surf the net that way tho [12:41] * W3ird_N3rd gotta go\ [12:41] good luck in the 1960s :P [13:26] hi, salut [13:38] is there anybody here who can help me ? [14:11] hello guys [14:12] which one is good/easy to use and intuitve and got a big community archbang or crunchbang ? === szczur_ is now known as szczur [19:20] I my dear friends [19:21] hi [19:24] hey [19:52] will lubuntu release stable beta tomorrow? [19:53] I think there's no reason to release a new beta becouse we're so close to a new final release [19:56] bioterror will the final release come tomorrow? [19:56] the iso [19:56] http://www.ubuntu.com/countdown/banner1.png hoho [19:57] http://www.ubuntu.com/community/countdown [19:57] bioterror will lubuntu become official accepted derivate of ubuntu tomorrow? [19:57] I have no idea [19:57] I have no connections to canonical :D [19:57] bioterror how can I uninstall some application that came preinstalled without uninstalling lubuntu-desktop? [19:58] you dont have to care about lubuntu-desktop [19:58] !lubuntu-desktop [19:59] even when I have lubuntu 10.04 installed? [20:00] so I can uninstall parcellite without make lubuntu-desktop installation again? [20:00] then what is the difference between nvidia-current and nvidia-current-modaliases? [20:01] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Remove%20lubuntu-desktop [20:01] Kurdistan, apt-cache show nvidia-current-modaliases [20:02] bioterror you recommend? [20:03] what? [20:04] which do you think is best? [20:04] I dont have nvidia, I have ati :D [20:05] bioterror cool [20:05] people normally have problem with ati under linux [20:05] I have 4350 or what ever and using hdradeon drivers [20:05] no problems [20:05] cool [20:07] bioterror I hope lubuntu control center will come up [20:07] it disappeared :D [20:07] xubuntu have really nice one' [20:08] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/lubuntu-desktop-ppa/ [20:08] I hope this will be pre-installed [20:08] looks really great [20:08] yeah [20:09] why isn't lubuntu an official derivative yet? [20:09] ayush1 becuase it must become more stable I think and live up to the ubuntu standard [20:10] I think people here talked about 11.04 it will be official derivate [20:10] I see [20:11] ayush1, lubuntu is good if you like fast and light desktop [20:11] and minimalistic [20:12] Kurdistan: yes. i have an old computer which needs lubuntu [20:12] if you want more things preinstalled ubuntu, kubuntu or xubuntu comes with more application preinstalled [20:12] so how many more hours? any idea? [20:12] ayush1 then lubuntu is the perfect one for you [20:12] or xubuntu [20:13] I tried out pclinuxos 2010 lxde edition and it was slow [20:13] but it did fined my drivers and installed it [20:13] ayush1 for me I install from livecd with my usb [20:13] archbang is fast as hell, salix is too pretty damn fast [20:14] installation takes max 15 min for me [20:14] then install things you like add 10-15 min [20:14] finished [20:14] and tweak [20:14] done :) [20:15] bioterror archbang is derivate of arch? then it is rolling release? [20:15] yes [20:15] bioterror do they use lxde or openbox? [20:15] openbox [20:15] okey [20:15] they tried lxde, but dropped it [20:15] is it faster then lubuntu on boot-time? [20:16] could be [20:16] arch is really geeky is archbang like arch? not user-friendly? [20:17] I think salix is also geeky? [20:18] well [20:18] lubuntu is too :) [20:19] my laptops batteri drained [20:19] gotta use phone [20:23] ayush1: I believe lubuntu will have to be built on canonical's infrastructure before it would be considered [20:34] hi guys [20:34] hi [20:34] thanks for that bio [20:37] thanks for that bio,was just doing a test video.. [20:38] okay [20:38] hope my nick looks good on it [20:38] maybe I should have used capital letters :D [20:39] sneekylinux: nice youtube channel you have :) [20:39] maybe,as the fonts were not too good,but at least you replied and will be on screen tomorrow [20:39] ta mate [20:39] :-) [20:40] i do have lubuntu on a test machine by the way,and all is good at the moment [20:40] yeah, 10.10 with lastest packages is awesome [20:41] i do find that lubuntu,because it is so light runs my video editing stuff a lot better too === ayush1 is now known as ayush1[sleep] [20:53] hi [20:54] hey leszek [20:57] dear lubuntu user have you guys made up your mineds about lxde control center in maverick? [20:58] it won't be included in maverick as far as I know [20:58] we have lubuntu control center in the ppas [20:59] leszek so I need to add ppa for lubuntu control center? [20:59] why can you guy make it preinstalled? [21:00] because it isn't in the official ubuntu repo and it didn't make it before freeze [21:01] leszek can I use the control center in lubuntu 10.04? [21:02] yes [21:02] were is the ppa? [21:09] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa [21:10] leszek I have lubuntu 10.04 [21:11] why can I not see it in synaptic? [21:12] because its in the maverick repo [21:12] I see [21:13] when I install lubuntu maverick [21:13] just download it from here directly: http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lubuntu-control-center/lubuntu-control-center_0.3~ppa1_all.deb [21:13] I can from synaptic install lubuntu control center? [21:13] & lxkeymap from here: http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lxkeymap/lxkeymap_0.2~ppa2_all.deb [21:13] and lxproxy from here: http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lxproxy/lxproxy_0.1~ppa1_all.deb [21:14] just download the debs and install them and then you get lubuntu control center + lxkeymap [21:14] nice [21:14] I will see how it looks [21:15] lescek when I install nvidia common. then install nvidia current, moadalis.. something comes up [21:15] why not only nvidia current? [21:18] leszek nice control center [21:18] I hope lubuntu can fined inspiration from xubuntu control center [21:19] :) [21:20] Kurdistan: sry I don't get the nvidia question [21:20] leszek, when install nvidia common [21:21] becuase when I take fined hardware on lubuntu it fineds nothing [21:21] I must install nvidia common [21:22] really !? interesting. Normally it should find your nvidia hardware and offer you to install the driver automatically [21:23] then when I install nvidia current it is nvidia-current-modaliases that is installed and not nvidia-current [21:24] hmm... strange [21:24] isn't there an nvidia-glx package ? [21:25] yes there is but not installed [21:25] the nvidia-current is a normal package that does not require the modaliases package [21:25] are you installing it with apt-get ? [21:26] leszek no with hardware drivers and then pick nvidia current [21:26] when I look it up it is nvidia-current modaliases that is installed [21:27] maybe it explans why it is so slow when I use the closed [21:27] if you have a current nvidia card install it with synaptic or apt-get [21:27] leszek so you recommend apt-get or synaptic? [21:29] its basically the same [21:29] use the one you like more [21:29] okey. :) will try brb. [21:47] leszek now I can dont have nvidia control center. the green thing. [22:21] gilir: szczur I'm not too sure where we are up to on this one, but could someone take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591277 Thanks [22:28] phillw :) welcome [22:29] hiyas Kurdistan [22:29] every thing fined with you my friend [22:30] :) I did take look on lubuntu control panel [22:30] smiling both ends ;-) [22:30] really polished but not good like xfce control center in xubuntu [22:30] ahhh phillw ol' mate ;) [22:30] phillw, seems more an amarok problem than a lubuntu one [22:30] I've been missing you as a child of light who guides our little friends who has lost the trail from the path of light [22:32] gilir: if you could reply, it was the forum staff member who posted me to have a look at it, as you know; if the staff people ask me, I am duty bound to seek a reply :) [22:32] lol you guys are funny like hell :) [22:32] brb [22:32] * phillw waves to bioterror [22:41] phillw, ok, but I'm quite busy now, I'll do it later === Evixion` is now known as Evixion [22:41] gilir: appreciated :) [22:49] hmm nvidia-current does not show option-nvidia green thing :) [22:49] nvidia-current-modaliases only shows [22:51] nvidia x server setting is the name [22:51] does any body know why? [22:56] Kurdistan: I'm sorry I cannot help on nvidia issues [22:56] fritte välkommen :) [22:56] <|friTTe|> thx [22:57] <|friTTe|> fresh 10.10 beta 2 install done, the gui way [22:59] |friTTe|: only a couple of days to go until Julien releases the final 10.10 beta ;-) [22:59] <|friTTe|> phillw, yeah [22:59] <|friTTe|> guess i can make an update then [22:59] phillw :) lubuntu control center can be installed from lubuntu maverick repo [22:59] but you will be automatically get any updates for that release. [23:00] <|friTTe|> yeah [23:00] polished but not so good yet [23:00] <|friTTe|> did the ubiquity live cd this time [23:00] <|friTTe|> loked good and worked nice [23:01] Kurdistan: tbh, the developers have been concentrating on stability, the eye candy (making it look pretty) is important, but further down the list :) [23:01] phillw mean the function [23:01] xubuntus control center is the best control center in all buntu derivates [23:02] it is really close to mandrivas one [23:02] mandriva have the best one out there [23:02] as I'm a cli person, I don't tend to use control centers; but i appreciate that they are important. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [23:03] phillw I understand. In xubuntu much of the goddies is included in the control center. [23:03] you can almonst do everything from there [23:04] really easy for newbie [23:04] but lubuntu works fine :) [23:06] <|friTTe|> whats that name for the tool for menuchanging? [23:06] fritte you mean openbox konfig.? [23:07] how is lubuntu project coming along? you think it will work on a p4 with 512 mB of ram? [23:07] teno, yes it will. [23:07] it is really light [23:08] <|friTTe|> obmenu [23:08] it will fly on that tenoch, mines a 400mhz celeron with 182mb's ram.. and it works like a dream [23:09] * Tir_Eoghan complete newbie as well [23:09] tenochslb: lubuntu has far more room than it needs on 512MB :) It will be a very happy baby :D [23:10] tenochslb: "A Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MiB of RAM is probably a bottom-line configuration that may yield slow yet usable system with Lubuntu." [23:11] phillw, so where are the mirrors? [23:11] which version do you recommend? [23:12] tenochslb: 10.10 is due out in a couple of days, I have a mirror for the 10.04 on my server; but tbh - It's worth waiting a couple of days. [23:12] ok [23:12] i will wait [23:12] It's currently useing 112mb's of ram on my system.. Thats with xchat running with two chatrooms, chromium up, and xfce4 running (plus whatever necessary system stuff) [23:12] the devs have made a lot of changes. the 10.10 beta2 is available via torrent, [23:13] that will auto update on final release. [23:13] * Tir_Eoghan goes to download 10.10 beta 2 [23:14] 10.10 is even leaner and faster, right phill? [23:14] <|friTTe|> go with that Tir_Eoghan [23:14] <|friTTe|> im on a newly installed one now [23:14] there is an option, via minimal install, to not include all the packages that lubuntu ships. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing [23:15] they have removed some stuff that just does not work, as pcmanfm takes more of the 'strain' of things like samba support. [23:15] |friTTe|, will do, I'm anxious to get flash off of this baby.. I installed that to see if it would ruin the OS, and it didn't but I still don't like having it on here. [23:16] brb guys/girl this computer needs reboot [23:16] Tir_Eoghan: you still need flash for some sites, html5 is still in early days of adoption. [23:16] phillw, I can wait, I really cant stand flash [23:17] In my estimation it's like willingly installing a trojan on your computer [23:17] <|friTTe|> phillw, this install seems to be smoother than the minimal, had alot of bugs [23:17] <|friTTe|> now i just need to tweak and config to my liking [23:20] |friTTe|: the minimal was a 1st attempt, it is part of the project goal to have a minimal iso available; but it takes up time from the developers. The exisiting one is what I 'threw together' to get around the RAM requirements of ubiquity. With the 10.10 comes a newer desktop package that can be added. [23:20] <|friTTe|> aa ok [23:20] <|friTTe|> well it fast a fast installation and it worked =) [23:22] wheres the best place to get the torrent, I found one omgubuntu.co.uk but unsure if thats the best place [23:22] |friTTe|: please remember that lubuntu is still a young project, and there is a only a few people able to devote time to its development. Myself and Zach try like crazy to keep the documentation upto date, but I'm not a programmer [23:23] Tir_Eoghan: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-beta2.iso.torrent should have it. [23:23] thanks phillw [23:24] <|friTTe|> phillw, i now bro, the team is doing an awesome job with the os === IdleOne is now known as MaverickOne [23:24] <|friTTe|> and you guys with the docu [23:24] I have the beta1 on my server area, you can get it from there and just update it if the torrent is not 'playing' [23:24] <|friTTe|> i got a soft spot for lubuntu =) running Standard buntu on my maincomputer [23:25] <|friTTe|> but lu is something special [23:27] It has a lot of goodwill from the *buntu family towards it; I know that from my interactions with people who do things like approve the bots on here. We're not officially recognised yet but I am always treated by such people as if we are, as they know it the goal for lubuntu. [23:30] whats the benefit of getting recognized officially? besides the obvious recognition [23:32] Tir_Eoghan: it is the official endorsement from Canonical, along with server access for the iso's etc. :) [23:32] ah, I see. So it essentially just makes it a lot easier to get it out to people [23:32] * phillw is scared for when we get it, coz this room will get really busy :) [23:33] hehe, that is a scary thought.. [23:33] so all of you who have been helping test it are expected to help out n00bs :P [23:34] whew, dodged a bullet there. Can't stand noobs, after all I know them too well.. it's kind of a self hate sort of thing [23:34] it's one of the reasons for the creation of #lubuntu-offtopic [23:36] which is where we should be having this chat :P [23:36] hehe [23:37] #lubuntu will become a support channel.