| === bjf is now known as bjf[afk] | ||
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| === didrocks1 is now known as didrocks | ||
| asac | my NM applet is not visible ;) | 10:06 |
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| didrocks | asac: launching unity in the gnome session? | 10:07 |
| asac | aber my final pre-release distupgrade reboot :/ | 10:07 |
| asac | didrocks: no this is gnome session ;) | 10:07 |
| asac | its there somewhere, but seems the icon is gone or something | 10:07 |
| asac | really just 1px wide where i can click to get nm menu | 10:07 |
| didrocks | asac: ok weird then… just got that when unity steals the systray to GNOME, but not when I'm only using gnome-panel | 10:08 |
| asac | didrocks: feels too similar to be not the same problem | 10:08 |
| asac | otoh i can still click | 10:08 |
| asac | so the systray applet at least is still there | 10:08 |
| didrocks | yeah, so that's different I guess | 10:09 |
| asac | didrocks: what process would in your theory be stealing that? | 10:09 |
| didrocks | asac: when another process is stealing it, you have the systray applet crashing and disappearing | 10:09 |
| didrocks | so you can really not click anywhere :-) | 10:09 |
| didrocks | but apart from a "panel" process, I don't know of other trying to steal it | 10:10 |
| asac | i have /usr/lib/gnome-panel/wnck-applet | 10:10 |
| didrocks | well, things like cairo-dock and family maybe… | 10:10 |
| asac | why do i have that? | 10:10 |
| didrocks | let me look | 10:10 |
| asac | isnt that something netbookish? | 10:11 |
| didrocks | yeah | 10:11 |
| didrocks | cairo-dock? no, it's a dock like you have awn and others… | 10:11 |
| didrocks | but I don't think you install those bling bling things :) | 10:11 |
| didrocks | and you will see them on your desktop | 10:11 |
| * asac doesnt see anything on his desktop as he always runs full screen windows | 10:12 | |
| * asac looks whats going on there | 10:12 | |
| asac | i have one place on the desktop where probably 10000 files are stacked above each other because whenever i download with the Desktop download default of ubuntu it goes there | 10:13 |
| asac | can we finally move downloads to Downloads ;)? | 10:13 |
| asac | or beter: directly to Videos, Music, etc. | 10:13 |
| didrocks | asac: it's move to Downloads normally, on a fresh install | 10:14 |
| didrocks | moved* | 10:14 |
| asac | didrocks: yeah. but mime-type sorted would be much better. or having a mime-type filtered view instead of real folders for music etc. | 10:15 |
| didrocks | oh right :) | 10:15 |
| asac | good to know ... how can i get a fresh install state ;)? | 10:15 |
| asac | how about a spec: freshify ;) | 10:15 |
| didrocks | heh :-) looking for the xdg file for that, one sec | 10:15 |
| asac | at best without killing those changes i really care about | 10:15 |
| asac | there are a bunch of changes that i didnt change, but that still stuck. like the three shutdown buttons i stiill have :) | 10:16 |
| didrocks | ah, finally got it! | 10:17 |
| didrocks | .config/user-dirs.dirs | 10:17 |
| didrocks | XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR | 10:17 |
| didrocks | "$HOME/Téléchargements" here for instance | 10:17 |
| asac | omg. translating those in config files is wrong imo ;)( | 10:19 |
| asac | those don't change if you change language then :) | 10:19 |
| asac | it hsould be solely on UI level where translation happens for special folders | 10:20 |
| didrocks | asac: right, it's just the language choosed at install time | 10:22 |
| didrocks | choosen | 10:22 |
| didrocks | chosen | 10:22 |
| didrocks | grrr :-) | 10:22 |
| didrocks | and I agree about that being on UI level, but I think it was that before and the CLI didn't map it, of course | 10:22 |
| * asac tries killing gnome-panel and hopes for a relayout fixing nm being gone | 10:22 | |
| asac | yay its back | 10:23 |
| asac | guess its undeterministic/racy | 10:23 |
| asac | hmm | 10:23 |
| asac | didrocks: do you know that order is random there? | 10:23 |
| asac | my panel clock was on the right ... now after second killall gnome-panel the systray network thing is on the right | 10:24 |
| asac | and the clock on the left ... odd | 10:24 |
| asac | if it was two systray things changing order i would understand | 10:24 |
| * asac kills again | 10:24 | |
| asac | hah | 10:24 |
| asac | three times nm was right, clock was left ... now its flipped again ;) | 10:25 |
| nigelb | murder all around apparently. | 10:25 |
| nigelb | 4th time licky perhaps | 10:25 |
| didrocks | asac: do you mean gnome-panel is buggy? not really a news :-) | 10:25 |
| nigelb | *lucky | 10:25 |
| didrocks | asac: next cycle, we will get the dbus version, hope that's going to get better | 10:25 |
| asac | didrocks: i block slot to lurk on desktop meetings i guess | 10:25 |
| asac | didrocks: what happened to the applet for nm? | 10:26 |
| asac | oh right... just connman gets that for now | 10:26 |
| asac | didrocks: is that going well? | 10:26 |
| didrocks | asac: I just tried it during the cycle. It wasn't as good as NM feature-wise, but it's in better state than when NM began :-) | 10:27 |
| didrocks | asac: stil a lot of bugs and weird behavior, but I think it'll be ok with the natty cycle | 10:28 |
| didrocks | ask to mpt, he is using it everyday :-) | 10:28 |
| asac | maybe i should try as well ... i dont have really special use cases. just wifi ;) | 10:29 |
| asac | with WPA-PSK | 10:29 |
| didrocks | should be ok then | 10:33 |
| didrocks | it's in universe | 10:33 |
| didrocks | indicator-network IIRC | 10:33 |
| didrocks | at least, the last time I sponsored it :-) | 10:33 |
| duanedesign | do my eyes deceive me or is couch replication working :) | 10:35 |
| didrocks | it's working for 3 weeks for me :-) | 10:42 |
| duanedesign | didrocks: i am anxious to test oneConf and get back to working on Stipple | 10:45 |
| didrocks | duanedesign: hehe, once the sync was there, I worked on OneConf to get it in good shape for maverick. I think it is | 10:46 |
| didrocks | duanedesign: now, I have a lot of idea to get better performance, already commited some work yesterday night | 10:46 |
| didrocks | there are a lot of low hanging fruits :) | 10:46 |
| duanedesign | didrocks: i have also been working on a script to get my irssi logs into Couch...been having Json searilixation errors though | 10:47 |
| didrocks | also, I want to talk with u1 guys, as we can have a lot of revisions, like "how to compact the db from desktopcouch" and such | 10:47 |
| didrocks | duanedesign: waow, I'm a little bit scared about the scalibity | 10:47 |
| didrocks | (and I use weechat, not irssi ;)) | 10:47 |
| duanedesign | didrocks: that is understandable (scalability) | 10:47 |
| duanedesign | didrocks: what bzr branch has the latest work on OneConf? | 10:49 |
| didrocks | duanedesign: it's on my netbook which is upstair, I'll push it this week-end :) | 10:49 |
| didrocks | duanedesign: lp:oneconf is currently the version in universe | 10:49 |
| duanedesign | that makes sense (lp:oneconf) :D | 10:50 |
| asac | didrocks: are there any x86 users that get the efl launcher? someone said that some 915 intel chips are not supported | 10:51 |
| didrocks | duanedesign: isn't it? ;) | 10:51 |
| didrocks | asac: it's not seeded | 10:51 |
| didrocks | but I think the version should work from the repo | 10:51 |
| asac | didrocks: ok cool. guess that means that no considerable user base has any problem? | 10:52 |
| didrocks | ATI cards and old graphic chipset mostly | 10:52 |
| didrocks | I just detect if you have hw acceleration or not | 10:52 |
| didrocks | if not, I prompt a message | 10:52 |
| didrocks | change the default session to GNOME | 10:52 |
| didrocks | and logout | 10:52 |
| asac | ah ... so gnome is seeded on netbook? | 10:52 |
| * asac didnt know that | 10:53 | |
| didrocks | well, netbook has most of gnome softwares | 10:53 |
| didrocks | so, we just have gnome-panel which isn't needed in unity | 10:53 |
| didrocks | and the gnome.desktop file in the session dir, which is in gdm in any case | 10:53 |
| asac | right ... is there any difference of that session default to the ubuntu desktop image? | 10:53 |
| didrocks | not a lot, we don't ship brasero for instance as a netbook doesn't have a burner most of the time | 10:54 |
| didrocks | and simple-scan IIRC | 10:54 |
| asac | *nods* | 10:54 |
| didrocks | apart from that, there is no pratical difference | 10:55 |
| duanedesign | have a good day didrocks | 10:58 |
| didrocks | duanedesign: thanks, enjoy desktopcouch syncing :-) | 10:59 |
| devildante | hello everyone :) | 11:39 |
| devildante | YokoZar: around? | 11:44 |
| rickspencer3 | hi devildante | 11:59 |
| devildante | hi rickspencer3 :) | 12:00 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3 | 12:14 |
| rickspencer3 | hi pitti | 12:14 |
| rickspencer3 | how's it going today? | 12:14 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: pretty well; not much to do for me, as it seems | 12:15 |
| * rickspencer3 knocks wood | 12:15 | |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, skaet is working on release notes with robbiew | 12:15 |
| rickspencer3 | other than that, just looking around to make sure no last minute issues arise today, but all seems well | 12:15 |
| robbiew | pitti: go enjoy your Saturday! ;) | 12:15 |
| pitti | robbiew: you mean go out to this hilariously nasty weather today? | 12:16 |
| pitti | sun, warm, colourful leaves on the trees | 12:16 |
| pitti | we'll do some kiting this afternoon | 12:16 |
| robbiew | pitti: heh...it's pretty nasty in London | 12:18 |
| robbiew | but what's new :) | 12:18 |
| didrocks | robbiew: beautiful weather in France, you should come! :-) | 12:47 |
| didrocks | oh, there is this "release thing", and so you can't, right? sorry ;-) | 12:47 |
| robbiew | didrocks: weather is beautiful in Austin, Texas as well...so I'll just go there on Monday ;) | 12:47 |
| didrocks | heh :-) | 12:48 |
| didrocks | hope that you will have enough room for your legs this time! | 12:48 |
| === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar | ||
| fagan | So quiet for the day before a release | 15:40 |
| rickspencer3 | hi fagan | 15:54 |
| fagan | hi rickspencer3 | 15:54 |
| fagan | :) | 15:54 |
| didrocks | better quiet than crazy :) | 16:00 |
| nigelb | fagan: the crazyness has been channeled in to #ubuntu-release-party | 16:03 |
| fagan | oh I forgot about #ubuntu-release-party | 16:06 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, hey dude around at all? | 16:15 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, are you still around? | 16:16 |
| ari-tczew | is not dude an offensive word? | 16:16 |
| rickspencer3 | ari-tczew, it is not | 16:17 |
| rickspencer3 | well, not here, anyway | 16:17 |
| fagan | ari-tczew: nope | 16:17 |
| fagan | dude is an awesome word | 16:17 |
| fagan | its part of my core lexicon | 16:18 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: hey, can I help on anything? | 16:28 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, well, robbiew is seeing a bit of an odd issue with gwibber | 16:28 |
| rickspencer3 | he's checking to see if he can see it on the ISO | 16:29 |
| robbiew | yeah...almost done zsyncing and will test | 16:29 |
| didrocks | ok, not really my field then, and I'm not really using it (I'm even not twittering), but I'm happy to try to confirm if needed | 16:29 |
| * robbiew suspects it's just my machine in an odd state | 16:29 | |
| didrocks | robbiew: do you have the same if you try with a guest account? | 16:29 |
| robbiew | didrocks: let me check | 16:30 |
| rickspencer3 | I'll check too | 16:30 |
| robbiew | didrocks: worked fine in guess session...so just my settings...whew! :) | 16:32 |
| * robbiew stops creating a USB live image | 16:33 | |
| didrocks | robbiew: was it so scary issue? :-) | 16:33 |
| robbiew | nah..not really | 16:33 |
| robbiew | it was just the gwibber icon was popping up in the indicator area | 16:33 |
| rickspencer3 | omg, respin! | 16:33 |
| robbiew | and not using the "Broadcast" icon | 16:33 |
| robbiew | heh | 16:33 |
| robbiew | but apparently rickspencer3 found a unity bug :) | 16:34 |
| didrocks | nooooooooo :-) | 16:34 |
| czajkowski | robbiew: that gwibber icon happens to pop up infrequently atm on 10.10 | 16:37 |
| czajkowski | and I've no idea why and it goes away on reboot | 16:37 |
| robbiew | czajkowski: hmmm | 16:41 |
| robbiew | didrocks: nevermind on the unity bug...false alarm | 16:41 |
| didrocks | robbiew: *phew*, I'm still checking :) | 16:41 |
| czajkowski | robbiew: I cant reproduce it but it was there last week and comes and goes.. not sure what I'm doing that triggers it | 16:42 |
| robbiew | czajkowski: I suspect some part of it is crashing and failing to register with the indicator-applet or something | 16:43 |
| robbiew | whatever...hardly not worth release noting | 16:43 |
| czajkowski | aye | 16:44 |
| czajkowski | robbiew: was a more you're not going mad and you did see the icon comment :) | 16:44 |
| robbiew | aye...thnx ;) | 16:44 |
| jcastro | anyone need help with anything? | 16:52 |
| robbiew | jcastro: we're actually good ;) | 17:12 |
| jcastro | I don't believe you. | 17:12 |
| jcastro | robbiew: dropping a mention of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek next week for people to learn how to use their shiny new OS would help me out though. :) | 17:13 |
| robbiew | mention where? | 17:13 |
| jcastro | robbiew: release announcement perhaps? :) | 17:14 |
| robbiew | no way | 17:14 |
| jcastro | heh | 17:15 |
| asac | is it out yet? ;) | 17:15 |
| asac | jcastro: can we talk on monday please? | 17:15 |
| jcastro | robbiew: so I suppose a stackexchange link in your signature is also out of the question? | 17:15 |
| jcastro | (j/k) | 17:15 |
| robbiew | lol | 17:15 |
| jcastro | asac: yes I read the backscroll, no worries, we'll be fine! | 17:15 |
| asac | jcastro: i am sure that you will be fine! ;) | 17:16 |
| asac | enjoy your weekend! | 17:16 |
| jcastro | asac: have you seen the instructive videos? | 17:17 |
| jcastro | they should cover like 90% of what you need | 17:17 |
| asac | jcastro: i have seen nothing. i need a personal induction and need to talk about other things | 17:17 |
| jcastro | http://ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv/file/3539348/ | 17:18 |
| jcastro | http://ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv/file/3544119/ | 17:18 |
| jcastro | http://ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv/file/3544126/ | 17:18 |
| asac | yes, thats fine. i doubt it answers my questions though :) | 17:18 |
| jcastro | replace the urls I mention there with "summit.ubuntu.com" | 17:18 |
| asac | wy? | 17:18 |
| jcastro | because they are out of date in the video, we don't really use the wiki anymore, etc. | 17:18 |
| jcastro | summit and the lp blueprint page is all you need: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-n | 17:19 |
| asac | ok i will watch them, but i dont think this will answer my questions | 17:19 |
| asac | but well see | 17:19 |
| asac | lets talk monday | 17:19 |
| jcastro | oh I know it won't | 17:19 |
| * asac copies those urls to notes | 17:19 | |
| asac | but i will watch them so i am well prepared and dont ask stuff that is already in there. so thanks | 17:20 |
| jcastro | heh | 17:20 |
| Amaranth | whoa, people here on a weekend | 17:20 |
| jcastro | we'll be fine, if you know what sessions and bp's you want we can knock them out in less than an hour | 17:20 |
| fagan | Amaranth: its release weekend | 17:20 |
| Amaranth | well sure | 17:20 |
| fagan | so its kinda a given | 17:20 |
| asac | jcastro: from when are you available monday (in UTC time) | 17:21 |
| asac | ? | 17:21 |
| Amaranth | btw, iOS 4.1 jailbreak is going to be released 10/10/10 at 10:10:10 am, stealing our thunder | 17:21 |
| jcastro | asac: 1300 is when I start work | 17:22 |
| jcastro | asac: I'd help you now but I am in and out before the game, but I'll make it priority for monday | 17:22 |
| asac | jcastro: great thats the only slot i have available ... sent you and invite | 17:22 |
| asac | jcastro: sure thats fine. i dont want to talk now anyway | 17:22 |
| asac | its saturday after all ;) | 17:22 |
| asac | ok enjoy! | 17:23 |
| asac | ttyl | 17:23 |
| didrocks | rebooting, brb | 17:56 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: o/ | 18:05 |
| rickspencer3 | hi pitti | 18:08 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks for pinging back, didrocks was around and helped out though | 18:08 |
| pitti | ok, cool | 18:09 |
| didrocks | ok, after digging, guest-session isn't guilty, gdm isn't guilty, gnome-session either and unity isn't | 18:50 |
| didrocks | but gconf has an empty environment when forking :/ | 18:50 |
| didrocks | which wasn't the case in lucid | 18:50 |
| bilalakhtar | didrocks: guilty for what? | 18:52 |
| didrocks | some guest session issue in UNE | 18:52 |
| bilalakhtar | hmm | 18:52 |
| * bilalakhtar isn't able to run unity | 18:52 | |
| bilalakhtar | thanks to bug #616697 | 18:53 |
| ubot2 | bilalakhtar: Bug 616697 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/616697 is private | 18:53 |
| bilalakhtar | thanks to bug #616997 | 18:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 616997 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "[RV515] Unity keeps reloading with a white background (affects: 14) (dups: 5) (heat: 139)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616997 | 18:53 |
| didrocks | ah, ATI card… | 18:53 |
| didrocks | ok, dinner time there | 18:53 |
| bilalakhtar | bye didrocks ! | 18:53 |
| Zdra | 42 | 23:12 |
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