[13:52] <bilalakhtar> This may not be the correct place to discuss this, but
[13:53] <bilalakhtar> The recent ubuntu.com update with Maverick posts puts one sentence right on the home page, which is:
[13:53] <bilalakhtar> Try Ubuntu today
[13:53] <bilalakhtar> which makes it seem that Ubuntu is actually shareware or stuff!
[13:57] <sense> bilalakhtar: Have you asked in #ubuntu-website?
[13:58] <bilalakhtar> sense: okay, doing that
=== bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar
[18:32] <Paddy_NI>  Hey I am curious to know if any of the maverick goodies such as multi-touch support, indicator-appmenu and unity are being backported to lucid or if there is an updated ppa?
[18:32] <Paddy_NI> Not so much multitouch here I guess
[18:37] <sense> Paddy_NI: New functionality doesn't get backported to previous releases.
[18:38] <sense> Especially not such fundamental additions as Unity, multi-touch and the AppMenu.
[18:38] <Paddy_NI> Oh I thought canonical had taken a slightly different stance on that
[18:38] <Paddy_NI> I must be wrong
[18:38] <Paddy_NI> how about an updated ppa?
[18:38] <sense> Paddy_NI: Maybe there are some PPAs containing experimental packages for previous releases, but there will never be official support.
[18:39] <Paddy_NI> not looking for official support
[18:39] <Paddy_NI> :)
[18:39] <sense> Paddy_NI: you could have been confused by the policy for Firefox, if I'm correct that does get major updates.
[18:39] <Paddy_NI> to a degree yes
[20:39] <mgunes> is there no way to pin notes with the Tomboy indicator?
[20:41] <sense> mgunes: It isn't possible with what Application Indicators can do.
[20:44] <jcastro> mgunes: known limitation I'm afraid, we're still trying to figure out how to make it suck less
[20:45] <mgunes> I couldn't find a spec for the indicator; what logic is used for grouping the notes in the menu?
[20:46] <sense> mgunes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators
[20:47] <mgunes> sense, I'm aware of that; I was asking about the Tomboy implementation specifically.
[20:47] <sense> ah, there is probably no spec of that, but there ought to be a bug report somwhere
[20:47] <jcastro> http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/849115946/quicklists is the best I can do
[20:48] <sense> mgunes: bug #497058
[20:48] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 497058 in tomboy (Ubuntu) "Support application indicator (affected: 2, heat: 16)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/497058
[20:48] <mgunes> it seems to be dividing notes into three groups; I'm trying to figure out the logic according to which it does that.
[20:49] <Omega> Congratz on the release guys.
[20:49] <jcastro> right, the problem is that the app indicator doesn't have support for the pins and other cool UI an app like tomboy wants
[20:49] <sense> mgunes: The branch with the patch should be attached to that bug report.
[20:49] <jcastro> unless it's in the netbook edition
[20:49] <sense> Does that have a different patch?
[20:50] <mgunes> jcastro, I recall a post of yours saying pins were possible; you were probably talking about the netbook edition.
[20:50] <jcastro> so that's why have a sort-of-half-finished implementation of tomboy notes
[20:50] <jcastro> we can probably do pins in the netbook dock thing
[20:50] <jcastro> I need to talk about it with ted some more
[20:50] <mgunes> sense, thanks; I'll probably have to study the code
[20:50] <jcastro> but yeah, it's not ideal if you use pins
[20:51] <jcastro> also, hi! haven't talked to you for a long time
[20:51] <mgunes> hi indeed ;)
[20:52] <mgunes> I did use pins; it actually is a deal breaker.
[20:52] <mgunes> It might be a good temporary kludge to implement pinning in the search dialog context menu.
[20:52] <jcastro> we purposely didn't ship the patch in 10.04 because of that
[20:52] <jcastro> maybe someone got overexcited and enabled it
[20:53]  * jcastro blames tedg
[20:53] <mgunes> I know
[20:53] <jcastro> mgunes: I'll bring it up at UDS
[20:54] <mgunes> jcastro: I'd appreciate that.
[22:02] <Pendulum> does anyone know if Unity was tested in how it works with Orca (screen reader) at all?