| Riddell | claydoh: ping | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| Riddell | claydoh: I'm copying the FinalDraft over to kubuntu.org, do let me know what sections you plan to edit still | 00:20 |
| claydoh | Riddell: good timing, just got home and am working on the last bits notfilled in | 00:21 |
| claydoh | Riddell: I don't have any text for the kde4.5.1 section yet, and need to copy over text/images and edit the other sections | 00:22 |
| Riddell | claydoh: thanks, I'll keep a watch for your changes | 00:23 |
| * claydoh needs to work less hours at work sometimes :) | 00:24 | |
| Riddell | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu now final, proofreading needed | 00:30 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Do you want anything in there about conffile prompts? | 00:37 |
| Riddell | ScottK: depends on how well we got on with these potential fixes | 00:39 |
| * ScottK nods | 00:39 | |
| Riddell | hmm, spot the mistake on http://www.kubuntu.org/ | 00:47 |
| * Riddell fixes | 00:48 | |
| ScottK | 1 days left is not proper English, but I suspect that's not what you're after. | 00:48 |
| ScottK | Looks like all the feature tour screen shots are with the old font. | 00:49 |
| ScottK | The 4.5.2 announcement for 10.10 is sort of correct, but misleading. | 00:49 |
| Riddell | it did say "out now" instead of "1 days left" | 00:50 |
| Riddell | better bad grammer than early release announcements | 00:50 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 00:51 |
| ScottK | Certainly. | 00:51 |
| Riddell | awooga! | 00:51 |
| ScottK | Upgrade fix? | 00:51 |
| Riddell | XMODIFIERS='@im=unset' fixes the DistUpgrade bug | 00:51 |
| Riddell | oh | 00:52 |
| Riddell | no it doesn't | 00:52 |
| Riddell | it just delays it until you click on the text area | 00:52 |
| Riddell | fooey | 00:52 |
| Riddell | ScottK: has your upgrade got to showing the conf change dialogue yet? | 00:52 |
| ScottK | Didn't get that far yet. | 00:53 |
| Riddell | guess I'll do a new lucid install and try again with some show/hide of a text area at the start | 00:53 |
| Riddell | sigh | 00:53 |
| ScottK | Just started setting up phase. | 00:53 |
| ScottK | Going to dinner. Maybe it'll be here when I get back. | 00:56 |
| Riddell | eat well | 00:56 |
| phoenix_ | -*- | 00:57 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Works. | 01:00 |
| Sput | Riddell: well, it certainly is 10/10/10 in south africa already :) | 01:04 |
| jjesse | its a bit silly watching #ubuntu-release-party | 01:06 |
| Riddell | ScottK: button successfully disabled? | 01:11 |
| Riddell | jjesse: occationally one has to mingle with the proletariat | 01:13 |
| claydoh | Riddell: notes look to be done, I hope - unless there are new Known Issues I have missed | 01:17 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Yes. It's there, but disabled. | 01:19 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ok, so we can copy that over to maverick-updates | 01:19 |
| ScottK | Let me finish the upgrade (close) | 01:19 |
| Riddell | claydoh: thanks, I'll copy that over to kubuntu.org | 01:20 |
| claydoh | should i copy the page to Final/Kubuntu, or just redirect ? the ubuntu release notes for Kubuntu point to the FinalDraft page | 01:20 |
| * claydoh should study all things wiki | 01:20 | |
| claydoh | of course I could just rename it too | 01:21 |
| ScottK | Rebooting. Hopefully brb. | 01:23 |
| Riddell | claydoh: edit the ReleaseNotes wiki page to point to http://www.kubuntu.org/news/10.10-release | 01:26 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Back. I'm prepared to call it a success. | 01:27 |
| claydoh | Riddell: the Ubuntu release notes? that page is immutable, will have to contact th author | 01:28 |
| Riddell | claydoh: try logging in | 01:29 |
| Riddell | ScottK: groovy | 01:29 |
| claydoh | Riddell: hah, thought i was | 01:30 |
| Riddell | claydoh: or use the wiki.kubuntu.org domain | 01:30 |
| ScottK | Riddell: The Quassel icon doesn't get turned off on upgrades. | 01:36 |
| claydoh | Riddell: done | 01:37 |
| Riddell | ScottK: please report dist upgrade test on bug 656876 | 01:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 656876 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "distupgrade crashed during conf file change review" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656876 | 01:45 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Just did it. | 01:46 |
| ScottK | Also put a pass in for Kubuntu Upgrade i386 on the ISO tracker. | 01:46 |
| ScottK | The font takes some getting used to. | 01:48 |
| jjesse | so this new font is default on a fresh install of kubuntu 10.10? | 02:13 |
| Riddell | yes | 02:15 |
| Riddell | proofreading needed for those with access https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/10.10-release | 02:15 |
| Riddell | ScottK: my show/hide a text area at the start idea didn't work so I think we'll have to go with no show more for conffile changes | 02:18 |
| Riddell | I'll add a release note and not to the upgrade page | 02:18 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. I think it's reasonable, it just needs a really good release note. | 02:18 |
| ScottK | OK. | 02:18 |
| Riddell | s/not/note/ | 02:18 |
| Riddell | annoying that, I expected it to work | 02:18 |
| Riddell | bloody input methods, nothing but trouble, mumble | 02:19 |
| Riddell | ScottK: for this release note, how does someone look at the conffile change manually? | 02:31 |
| Riddell | ah got it, it's called FILE.dpkg-new | 02:32 |
| ScottK | yes. then one uses diff ... | 02:33 |
| Riddell | damn, now I need a screenshot | 02:37 |
| Riddell | so screenshow of conffile needed, am doing virtual machine upgrade for that | 02:40 |
| Riddell | also don't have anything to put on the front page banner on kubuntu.org | 02:40 |
| Riddell | but I'm sure something will turn up | 02:40 |
| claydoh | is there a particular reason/issue for not having 4.5.2/koffice beta/etc for Lucid? | 02:53 |
| claydoh | something i can use to respond to the masses when asked | 02:53 |
| ScottK | claydoh: You mean maverick? | 02:57 |
| ScottK | 4.5.2 was released after we were in final freeze. | 02:57 |
| claydoh | besides that :) | 02:57 |
| ScottK | Oh. Because 101010 = 42. | 02:57 |
| claydoh | ok that one works :) | 02:58 |
| Riddell | claydoh: we're not going to put a beta into the final release | 02:59 |
| claydoh | no, not having these for lucid | 02:59 |
| claydoh | "There are no packages planned for Kubuntu 10.04 LTS" | 03:00 |
| Riddell | oh, no time, busy with the maverick release | 03:00 |
| Riddell | and if you want the latest software, you should be using the latest release | 03:01 |
| claydoh | well my guess was correct then :) | 03:01 |
| claydoh | on both counts | 03:01 |
| claydoh | you wouldn't belive how many people want to install new software --- without installing new software, if that make any sense | 03:04 |
| Riddell | yeah I know, more packagers needed | 03:07 |
| jjesse | does the kde ublog applet actually connect to twittwer on maverick? | 03:09 |
| jjesse | oooo a new version of update-manager :) | 03:10 |
| ScottK | jjesse: It does. | 03:14 |
| on3_g | Riddell: do u need packagers? | 03:14 |
| jjesse | ScottK: it hasn't updated all day for me for some reaosn | 03:14 |
| ScottK | jjesse: Just did updates to both Twitter and Identi.ca. | 03:14 |
| Riddell | on3_g: sure, we always need packagers | 03:17 |
| === stalcup is now known as vorian | ||
| jjesse | wierd it just updated | 03:18 |
| jjesse | and started showing my feed | 03:18 |
| ScottK | jjesse: You just needed to believe. | 03:18 |
| jjesse | apparently] | 03:18 |
| on3_g | Riddell: i wanna start to help with packaging | 03:19 |
| Riddell | on3_g: great | 03:20 |
| Riddell | on3_g: people would like the koffice beta, kdevelop RC and the whole of KDE SC 4.5.2 backported | 03:20 |
| Riddell | none of which are easy jobs | 03:20 |
| Riddell | and I'm afraid I'm zonked and about to go to bed so not able to do any tutoring tonight | 03:20 |
| Riddell | but do stick around | 03:20 |
| Riddell | kdevelop RC probably the easiest of those if you want to start and know what you're doing already | 03:21 |
| === vorian is now known as oldschool | ||
| === oldschool is now known as obama | ||
| === obama is now known as heHATEme | ||
| === heHATEme is now known as TheMaster | ||
| === TheMaster is now known as master | ||
| on3_g | Riddell: ok i will look for more info and start to work | 03:28 |
| master | ScottK: so there's no goal to be debian free? | 04:25 |
| ScottK | master: I don't see a reason to want that. | 04:26 |
| === master is now known as vorian | ||
| vorian | as a long term goal | 04:26 |
| ScottK | No. It's in our interest not to fork. | 04:26 |
| vorian | it would be cool to stand on ones own two feet | 04:26 |
| ScottK | It's cooler to have great stuff to deliver. | 04:27 |
| vorian | true | 04:27 |
| vorian | I was seriously posing the question | 04:27 |
| vorian | There are things about debian, just like ubuntu, I'd like to see go away | 04:28 |
| ScottK | I don't think inheriting from Debian stops us doing stuff we want to do and we get great benefit from it. | 04:28 |
| vorian | true | 04:28 |
| vorian | ok - passing thought thwarted | 04:28 |
| vorian | thanks for the chat ScottK | 04:28 |
| vorian | it is interesting to see there is ZERO difference in the nazi tactics of the ops team | 04:29 |
| vorian | I thought that was supposed to change | 04:29 |
| ScottK | vorian: That's not really what this channel is here to discus. | 04:29 |
| vorian | k | 04:30 |
| dasKreech | Debian Free? | 05:00 |
| dasKreech | :-( | 05:16 |
| dasKreech | http://identi.ca/conversation/54528951#notice-54993851 | 05:16 |
| RoozbehOnline | hi Riddell | 08:01 |
| ulysses | It's october 10th, 10 hour 10 minutes! | 09:10 |
| Tm_T | lies | 09:10 |
| Tm_T | it was 1 hour ago (;) | 09:10 |
| ulysses | not in Central European Summer Time ;) | 09:10 |
| Riddell | Kubuntu 10.10 podcast! http://webbaverse.com/media/kdemu-0x0014 | 10:17 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I really think your capture settings are wrongish ;) | 10:20 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: if only I knew how to fix them | 10:20 |
| Riddell | it doesn't help that skype keeps changing the capture volume of my microphone | 10:20 |
| apachelogger | well, that is just fine, I think you need to reduce the volume of the capture mixer itself | 10:21 |
| apachelogger | to me it sounds like skype changes the mic volume while the caputre remains the same making for an overall too loud signal from capture | 10:22 |
| apachelogger | just a guess though | 10:22 |
| Riddell | what's the difference? | 10:23 |
| mfraz74 | Riddell: does disabling the 'allow skype to change volume' setting help? | 10:23 |
| Riddell | mfraz74: it probably would but I didn't have time for the recording | 10:23 |
| mfraz74 | Riddell: will listen to the podcast later hopefully | 10:23 |
| Riddell | or rather gamaral didn't, he had a flight to catch | 10:24 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I am not exactly sure how those two mixers are connected to each other but I would guess that mic is the actual input while capture is a software mixer, which would make a too high caputre volume a software amplifier for mic I guess | 10:26 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: hmm, maybe | 10:27 |
| Tm_T | jussi01: have you noticed we have flags up to celebrate new Kubuntu release? | 10:31 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty : Past, Present and Futur : I think we should have something like that early on | 10:31 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what for? | 10:40 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: to see how far we have come | 10:42 |
| Riddell | ok, put it down | 10:43 |
| apachelogger | debfx: kpk should issue an update of the sycoca *before* displaying apps one just installed and one might start now, seeing as it provides immediate access to the apps it should make sure that the sycoca was updated | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | eh | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | dantii not here ^^ | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | debfx: consider that a work assignment :) | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | hm, qtcreator 2.1 beta | 10:49 |
| Riddell | so... any ideas what to put on the banner on kubuntu.org | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | <3 Freedom <3 | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: what banner would that be? | 10:51 |
| Riddell | the one that currently has a 10.10 1 day to go pic on it | 10:51 |
| Riddell | preferably ideas in the next 15 minutes please :) | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: the maverick meerkat has arrived | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | Kubuntu 10.10 - A New Dimension of Awesome | 10:57 |
| ROSHA | hi Riddell | 10:58 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: happy kubuntu release :D | 10:58 |
| Riddell | thanks ROSHA | 10:59 |
| Riddell | 10 minutes to go... | 11:00 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: im downloading from torrent :D | 11:00 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: did Daniel Holbach speak about me with you ? | 11:01 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: me mentioned someone would say hi | 11:01 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: you're into artwork? | 11:01 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: yes | 11:02 |
| Riddell | you have 5 minutes to make a banner for kubuntu.org :) | 11:02 |
| ROSHA | :D | 11:02 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: sure | 11:02 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: with what title ? | 11:02 |
| neversfelde | from 10 minutes to 5 in 2 minutes | 11:02 |
| neversfelde | that's fast | 11:02 |
| ROSHA | hi neversfelde :) | 11:03 |
| neversfelde | hi ROSHA | 11:03 |
| ROSHA | neversfelde: how aree you man ? :D | 11:03 |
| neversfelde | fine, how are you? | 11:03 |
| ROSHA | neversfelde: not bad , just alive :) | 11:04 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: "Kubuntu 10.10" | 11:04 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: do you have any slogan ? | 11:04 |
| neversfelde | ROSHA: hehe | 11:04 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: what size ? like this in web site ? | 11:05 |
| Quintasan | \o/ | 11:06 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: 500x250 I think | 11:06 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: im working on it :) | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ad UDS ... "samba sharing" ... maybe we should expand that to sharing in general I recon sharing right from your desktop is a very important thing to do, e.g. uploading pics to facebook or flickr | 11:07 |
| * Riddell rolls a drum | 11:09 | |
| Quintasan | ITS PARTY TIME! | 11:10 |
| phoenix_ | thank you all for your valuable efforts | 11:11 |
| Riddell | whee! http://www.kubuntu.org/news/10.10-release | 11:12 |
| Riddell | party music on! | 11:12 |
| * Riddell hugs apachelogger | 11:12 | |
| * Riddell dances with Quintasan | 11:12 | |
| * Quintasan turns on neon lights | 11:13 | |
| * Riddell lifts neversfelde into the air | 11:13 | |
| * nigelb torrents kubuntu this time | 11:13 | |
| ROSHA | Riddell: follow my previous artworks from my blog : http://roozbeh.us and also via planetkde.org | 11:13 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Do not read past this - today is party day - 10.10!!! Congrats, thanks, hugs and kisses to everyone \o/ \o/ \o/ |||| Not Party releated foo: | what to do for Natty? http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty | SRUs http://goo.gl/iDJ6 | test final candidate images http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | ||
| * apachelogger hugs everyone and gets out the champagne | 11:14 | |
| Nightrose | \o/ | 11:14 |
| * Riddell pours Nightrose some of apachelogger's champagne | 11:15 | |
| Nightrose | yay :D | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | uhhh :D | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | now if we had a proper party bot... ^^ | 11:15 |
| * Nightrose could invite the insanity :D | 11:16 | |
| neversfelde | :) | 11:16 |
| Quintasan | :D | 11:16 |
| Riddell | oh no! | 11:17 |
| Nightrose | insanity: order party for everyone | 11:17 |
| * insanity is going to his secret storehouse to get party for everyone - might take some time. | 11:17 | |
| * insanity is back and slides party down the bar to everyone | 11:17 | |
| Riddell | it's insanity | 11:17 |
| Riddell | this channel is going to be like one of those crazy amarok channels! | 11:18 |
| Nightrose | hmmmm looks like she lost the party plugin :( | 11:18 |
| Riddell | maybe amarok developers are getting calmer in their old age :) | 11:18 |
| Nightrose | lol | 11:18 |
| Nightrose | never | 11:18 |
| Riddell | apachelogger, Nightrose, Quintasan, neversfelde, ROSHA, nigelb: hey, let's all group hug sabdfl when he's not expecting it | 11:19 |
| Nightrose | :D | 11:19 |
| Quintasan | :O | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | fullack | 11:19 |
| * apachelogger is all for group hugs | 11:19 | |
| neversfelde | hehe | 11:19 |
| Riddell | sabdfl: group hug! | 11:19 |
| Quintasan | sabdfl: group hug! | 11:20 |
| sabdfl | i'm in :-) | 11:20 |
| * nigelb hugs sabdfl and everyone! | 11:20 | |
| * Tm_T huggles all, how unsuspectful | 11:20 | |
| jussi | Im in! | 11:20 |
| sabdfl | well done team kubuntu | 11:20 |
| * Nightrose hugs sabdfl | 11:20 | |
| sabdfl | tight, tough cycle, but you pulled it off | 11:20 |
| * apachelogger proposes a group hug of the whole channel :D | 11:20 | |
| * apachelogger hugs sabdfl and everyone else too | 11:20 | |
| * Quintasan hugs #kubuntu-devel | 11:21 | |
| jussi | apachelogger: you do know Im going to hug you at UDS? | 11:21 |
| Nightrose | be afraid! | 11:21 |
| Nightrose | :D | 11:21 |
| * Nightrose wishes she could come too - but alas i'll be enjoying SF instead ;-) | 11:22 | |
| Riddell | and remember, jussi is Finish, he'll probably hug you straight out of the sauna | 11:22 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: ewwwwwwwww :P | 11:22 |
| jussi | actually, Im an aussie :D | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | hm | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | sticky hugs | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | hm | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | ... | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | :P | 11:22 |
| Nightrose | jussi: that doesn't count | 11:22 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: don't get any ideas° | 11:22 |
| jussi | Nightrose: how so? | 11:22 |
| jussi | lol | 11:22 |
| Nightrose | jussi: you've been there long enough to get sauna assimilated | 11:23 |
| jussi | ha! | 11:23 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: ooh SF, we'll be in the same country, you can come over for a drink in the evening | 11:23 |
| jussi | hhahahahahhaah | 11:23 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: haha | 11:23 |
| Nightrose | actually i'll be in boston first | 11:23 |
| Nightrose | then MV/SF | 11:23 |
| nigelb | dang, US of A didn't let me in or else I'd be meet you all at the end of the month | 11:23 |
| nigelb | *meeting | 11:24 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: was it desktop or alternate powerpc ISO you tested? | 11:24 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: desktop | 11:25 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: how come insanity forgot how to party? | 11:25 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: dunno | 11:25 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I told you, the amarok devs are getting old, settling down, no more parties for them | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | nigelb: which is why one should not have conferenced in the USA I suppose :( | 11:26 |
| Riddell | but it's OK, they can join the Kubuntu parties! | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: no more spunk :( | 11:26 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: very kind of you ;-) | 11:26 |
| * apachelogger travels to the lands of ~/src/svn/ | 11:27 | |
| nigelb | apachelogger: yes, agreed. | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: maybe the parser is foobar | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | clearly the rbotbar code is of so poor design it makes my head spin | 11:28 |
| dmatt | is it just me, or links to torrents on http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download do not work (except DVD)? | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | it was like the second thing I ever programmed I think ^^ | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | insanity: order party | 11:28 |
| * insanity gives everyone a party hat and a hand full of conffeti. | 11:28 | |
| * insanity turns on tha most funky party music as well as the all shiny disco ball. | 11:28 | |
| insanity | apachelogger: wanna dance with me? :-) | 11:28 |
| * insanity starts shaking her tight ass | 11:28 | |
| apachelogger | there we go | 11:28 |
| * apachelogger dances with insanity | 11:28 | |
| Nightrose | Oo | 11:28 |
| Nightrose | insanity: you're back! :D | 11:28 |
| insanity | hey, Nightrose :D | 11:28 |
| * Nightrose pets insanity | 11:28 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: does amarok have visualizations yet? | 11:30 |
| Nightrose | i think thecrasher was working on something but not sure | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | so I have heared, not seen much yet though ^^ | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | probably just rumours to keep the users at bay, eh? :P | 11:32 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: welcome to the party! | 11:33 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Do not read past this - today is party day - 10.10!!! Congrats, thanks, hugs and kisses to everyone \o/ \o/ \o/ |||| Not Party releated foo: | what to do for Natty? http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty | SRUs http://goo.gl/iDJ6 | ||
| === hunger_ is now known as hunger | ||
| * Riddell puts a party hat on hunger | 11:33 | |
| hunger | Hi Riddell. | 11:33 |
| Riddell | hunger: how's 10 10 for you? | 11:34 |
| hunger | Riddell: I am using it since the archives became available... so no change:-) | 11:34 |
| hunger | Riddell: You guys forgot to break my x installation two times which you did every ubuntu release I ever tried before... so it went rather well. | 11:38 |
| Riddell | mgraesslin: hear that? must try to find more breakage in X drivers in 4.6! | 11:39 |
| mgraesslin | :-P | 11:45 |
| mgraesslin | I have hear a nice breakage with 4.6 and nouveau driver which is not yet present in 4.5 | 11:46 |
| mgraesslin | so we are working on it | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | <3 | 11:47 |
| Tm_T | mgraesslin: shame I'm using closed binary drivers ): | 11:47 |
| mgraesslin | I installed nouveau today again to fix that regression | 11:48 |
| mgraesslin | I would use nouveau only if it would support power management | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | same here with radeon | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | especially since my GPU fan sounds like a helicopter on highest setting ^^ | 11:52 |
| Riddell | good thing Intel isn't broken.. oh wait | 11:53 |
| apachelogger | :D | 11:53 |
| * apachelogger ponders reinventing likeback | 11:54 | |
| yofel | about http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block : it says "Choose which version of Kubuntu 10.04.1 LTS you would like to download:" and then shows 10.10 and 10.04, that somehow doesn't make sense.. | 11:54 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: btw, should you run into teo some time, tell him that ruphy forces me to make likeback a proper library and that he should send me a list of things he would require for amarok of such a library | 11:55 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: feel free to tell him in the other channel ;-) | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | ah | 11:55 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: you can use this banner for web site :) : http://imagebin.ca/img/UCFhcSz.png is it OK ? | 12:02 |
| Riddell | yofel: hmm, data centre is hammered, hard to update | 12:03 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: lovely, can you do it with the Ubuntu font? | 12:03 |
| ROSHA | yes | 12:03 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: can you send me the font ? | 12:03 |
| ROSHA | oh i have it :) | 12:04 |
| ROSHA | dont send :p | 12:04 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: btw, the news timestamp stays 09 oct, supposedly you should set it to 101010101010 | 12:29 |
| apachelogger | s/stays/says | 12:29 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: how's it doing? | 12:37 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: we are partying at the Munich Nokia office in the OVi sprint :) | 12:38 |
| Mamarok | greets form the other KDE folk :) | 12:39 |
| Tm_T | Mamarok: hug them for me (: | 12:39 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: it's finished.... | 12:40 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: sorry im at work and im a bit busy.... | 12:40 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: but it's finished ;) | 12:40 |
| Riddell | working on a Sunday? it's as bad as canonical :) | 12:40 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: :D | 12:41 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: here in iran sundays is second day of the week | 12:41 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: our weekend is friday :p | 12:41 |
| persia | Only Friday? | 12:42 |
| * persia would expect most folk to get Thursday off also | 12:42 | |
| ROSHA | persia: yup | 12:42 |
| persia | Oh my! | 12:42 |
| ROSHA | persia: are you iranian ? | 12:42 |
| persia | I'm not. | 12:42 |
| ROSHA | persia: you nick name is a iraninan name :) | 12:42 |
| ROSHA | your | 12:43 |
| persia | No, it's a Roman word to insult Iranians that has been adopted as an identity in the past 30 years for complex sociohistorical reasons, but sorta, yeah :) | 12:43 |
| ROSHA | wow :D | 12:44 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: where can I find the image? | 12:44 |
| * persia means no insult, really | 12:44 | |
| ROSHA | Riddell: you can use each one do you like : http://imagebin.ca/img/uwCRfVgQ.png && http://imagebin.ca/img/JWcsyu0.png | 12:47 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: the fonts are diffrence | 12:48 |
| Riddell | lovely | 12:48 |
| Tm_T | ROSHA: nice (: | 12:49 |
| ROSHA | Tm_T: your welcome :) | 12:50 |
| Tm_T | funny how 10.10 announcement in kubuntu.org is dated almost 13 hours ago (: | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ^ :P | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | told ya | 12:52 |
| ari-tczew | Tm_T: because being late is a bad trait | 12:53 |
| Tm_T | and being way early might mislead people (: | 12:53 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. so i have no plasma-desktop... | 12:53 |
| Tm_T | considering we advert release being happened 10:10:10 and not several hours before that | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what did you do now? | 12:53 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: this banner is for kubuntu.org index or announcment ? | 12:54 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: no idea .. i just logged in and no plasma-desktop :D | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: bug report | 12:54 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://pastebin.ca/1958583 | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | dear mr. plasma, where have you gone? | 12:54 |
| Riddell | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/10.10-release updated | 12:55 |
| shadeslayer | also, plasma-netbook works fine | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | /usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_notifications.so | 12:55 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: ^^ also will do front page now | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | interesting | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you should get dbg symbols and trace that properly | 12:55 |
| * Tm_T huggles Riddell | 12:55 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: seems a bug in the notification plasmoid kills plasma | 12:55 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: thats what im doing, but itll take some time | 12:55 |
| shadeslayer | Need to get 222MB of archives. < :( | 12:56 |
| * apachelogger still does not quite understand why they do nothing about one plasmoid being able to drag down the whole friggin desktop | 12:56 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: any way to remove that plasmoid from plasma right now? | 12:56 |
| apachelogger | well | 12:56 |
| apachelogger | most likely it has to do with the config | 12:56 |
| apachelogger | so moving the plasma-desktop-appletrc out of the way should do the trick | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | or plasma-applet-desktoprc, something like that | 12:57 |
| shadeslayer | my desktop looks like chromium OS right now -.- | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | uh | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | lets us make a chromium OS edition :D | 12:57 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 12:57 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: great ;) | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | imagine the money we can make | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | ... | 12:58 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ i haz desktop again | 12:58 |
| * apachelogger wonders what is on for lunch today | 12:58 | |
| Quintasan | liquid bread? | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | nah | 12:59 |
| nigelb | heh, "This phenomena happens just 12 times a year: Americans write the date correctly." | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | we had champagne earlier | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | uh, idea, ... Kaiserschmarrn ... | 12:59 |
| nigelb | apachelogger: hrm, what is that? | 12:59 |
| shadeslayer | when did we release? | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | wp:kaiserschmarrn | 12:59 |
| nigelb | 10:10:10 BST | 12:59 |
| nigelb | err UTC | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | ~wp:kaiserschmarrn | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | ~wp kaiserschmarrn | 12:59 |
| insanity | Results for kaiserschmarrn: 1. Kaiserschmarrn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiserschmarrn | 2. Kaiserschmarrn – Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiserschmarrn | 3. File:Kaiserschmarrn-mitPreiselbeeren.jpg - Wikipedia, the free ...: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kaiserschmarrn-mitPreiselbeeren.jpg | 12:59 |
| insanity | [3] This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. Information from its description page there is shown below. Commons is a freely licensed media file repository. You can help. | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | ah, there we go | 13:00 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 13:00 |
| nigelb | shtylman: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2010-October/000139.html | 13:00 |
| shadeslayer | we have insanity \o/ | 13:00 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: if you would like , i can contribute with kubuntu developers in artworks and wallpaper of kubuntu 11.04 and also unique plasma desktop confuguring.... | 13:00 |
| nigelb | which insane person named the bot insanity | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | nigelb: it might have been markey | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | insanity dates way back | 13:01 |
| apachelogger | ... | 13:01 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: question is ... what time was it released :) | 13:01 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: look at the timestamp of that mail? | 13:01 |
| nigelb | apachelogger: that kaiser thingy looks taisty | 13:01 |
| shadeslayer | aww | 13:02 |
| shadeslayer | one hour late | 13:02 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: fooey, too large for the front page, needs to be only 160 high I think | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | nigelb: it is | 13:02 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: i was looking for time at the bottom | 13:02 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: it was on time per UTC | 13:02 |
| mgraesslin | though I am not from Austria I can confirm that Kaiserschmarrn is very tasty :-) | 13:02 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: for header ? | 13:02 |
| shadeslayer | oh great then | 13:02 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: yes | 13:03 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: wait :) | 13:03 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: 500x160 is sutable ? | 13:04 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: or 600x 160 ? | 13:05 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: the header is 944x230..... | 13:06 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: im working on this size | 13:06 |
| shadeslayer | wow | 13:08 |
| shadeslayer | ubuntu.com is pretty laggy :P | 13:08 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: 600x 160 should be good | 13:09 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: something must be going on | 13:09 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 13:09 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: i think we can replace the banner with main header , this ====> http://www.kubuntu.org/themes/kubuntu10.04/images/bg.jpg | 13:10 |
| Tm_T | shadeslayer: something fishy, almost like some new ubuntu release... | 13:10 |
| * Tm_T hides | 13:10 | |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 13:10 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: I don't have access to that, it needs a sysadmin change so it's not practical for today | 13:11 |
| shadeslayer | my point was... kubuntu.org was quite fast | 13:11 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: ok, im working on 600x160 | 13:11 |
| shadeslayer | which either means : 1) not alot of users on kubuntu.org or 2) we have better web server | 13:11 |
| shadeslayer | ill be going with 2 | 13:11 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: please see bug 654236 | 13:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 654236 in choqok (Ubuntu Lucid) "SRU : Please release choqok 0.9.85 for lucid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654236 | 13:13 |
| Riddell | reminds me | 13:14 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: how do you pronounce Choqok then? | 13:14 |
| shadeslayer | Is it possible in any way to just backport the move to oauth? :: uh .. i dont understand that part | 13:15 |
| Riddell | means can you patch in the oauth support instead of doing a whole new release | 13:16 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 13:16 |
| shadeslayer | well... itll be a huge patch :P ... and i wont be able to do it | 13:16 |
| shadeslayer | so essentially no ... | 13:17 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: we pronounce choqok like this : choghok | 13:17 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: ch like sCHool | 13:18 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: k like KDE :D | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: did you know about #klluminati ? :D | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | and did you see the solid song? :P | 13:18 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: for gh we have not pronounce in english | 13:18 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: gh like R pronounce in french | 13:19 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: like metRO pronounce in french :) | 13:19 |
| ROSHA | metRo | 13:19 |
| Riddell | I may need a recording :) | 13:20 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: :D | 13:20 |
| ROSHA | u ;)Riddell: I'll record this pronounce and send yo | 13:21 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: I'll record this pronounce and send you ;) | 13:21 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: do you know if there's any good white water canoeing in Iran? I just read a book about how good Iran is for skiing but I'm more into rivers myself | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer | markey: i cant produce that widget issue any more ... | 13:35 |
| shadeslayer | in amarok, did you do something? LD | 13:36 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: i didnt hear about this | 13:37 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: im living in isfahan, center city of iran | 13:38 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: maybe in south or north of iran the peoples know about this :) | 13:38 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: put this banner in kubuntu.org header : http://imagebin.ca/img/X-PDxL.png | 13:41 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: put this banner in kubuntu.org header : http://imagebin.ca/img/X-PDxL.png | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | ROSHA: thats a bit small i think | 13:42 |
| Tm_T | shadeslayer: how so? | 13:43 |
| shadeslayer | Tm_T: he means the entire Blue Background right? | 13:43 |
| Tm_T | shadeslayer: no | 13:43 |
| shadeslayer | oh.. just place that image on top of the blue backgroud ? | 13:44 |
| shadeslayer | like the counter | 13:44 |
| Tm_T | shadeslayer: I think so yes | 13:44 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok then | 13:44 |
| ROSHA | this banner will place in middle of header | 13:45 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: voila! http://www.kubuntu.org/ | 13:45 |
| persia | Ooh, Shiny! | 13:45 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: possibly position it in the middle ? | 13:46 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: i think the header is not sutable for this banner | 13:47 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I've no idea how | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, im looking how to do it too :P | 13:48 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: probably needs some change to the stylesheet which is part of the theme and not easily changed | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | probably yes | 13:48 |
| ROSHA | Riddell: do you have webmaster/web designer for kubuntu.org ? | 13:51 |
| Riddell | ROSHA: ofirk and sheytan | 13:52 |
| Riddell | (who aren't around just now) | 13:57 |
| real_ate | congrats on the new release btw ;) | 13:59 |
| real_ate | but i do have a question (how the work just continues!!) .. does anyone know if there is someone working on KDE gdm integration? | 14:00 |
| real_ate | I have found 2 (possibly unrelated) bugs in the ubuntu launchpad but they haven't been really touched since feisty! | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | real_ate: no | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | also I am not sure what you mean by integration | 14:08 |
| real_ate | apachelogger: kde wasn't upgraded to use the new gdm protocol | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | there is a protocol? | 14:08 |
| real_ate | and is unable to switch users, shutdown etc | 14:09 |
| real_ate | well i think its now using dbus or something | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: if you use gdm with KDE, you cant shutdown and stuff from menu | 14:09 |
| real_ate | ... i'm looking into it | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | well | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | you need to logout > shutdown | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | real_ate: #kde-devel | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | that is of particularly little concern to kubuntu really | 14:09 |
| real_ate | ?? | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu comes with kdm, not gdm? | 14:09 |
| real_ate | apachelogger: i'm surprised at your statement... | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | how is that? | 14:10 |
| real_ate | apachelogger: but if you install kubuntu-desktop from inside ubuntu | 14:10 |
| shadeslayer | real_ate: it drags in kdm and asks you which you want | 14:10 |
| Riddell | real_ate: he just means it should be fixed in KDE to get the fix into kubuntu and other distros | 14:10 |
| ulysses | real_ate: then it ask whether you want to use kdm or gdm | 14:10 |
| real_ate | yes yes i know all this | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | real_ate: my point is, there is no point in working on this on a kubuntu scale since it affects KDE at large | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | hence it needs to be resolved in KDE | 14:11 |
| real_ate | my surprise isn't important now, you make a good point on kubuntu using kdm | 14:11 |
| markey | shadeslayer: what widget issue? | 14:11 |
| real_ate | apachelogger: yes yes i understand your point now :) thanks | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | markey: amarok widget issue | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | the lyrics widget to be precise | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | in any case the problem would be finding someone who actually cares to implement this | 14:11 |
| real_ate | apachelogger: that would be me | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | or align KDM with GDM so that any combination works | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | since I suppose using GNOME with KDM causes exactly the same problem | 14:12 |
| real_ate | I was just checking if any of you guys who straddle KDE and ubuntu haven't started working on it so I don't duplicate work | 14:12 |
| real_ate | apachelogger: using gnome with kdm is WAY worse! | 14:12 |
| real_ate | unusable | 14:13 |
| Riddell | real_ate: nope but if fedora already has a patch worth checking with rdieter | 14:13 |
| real_ate | Riddell: i'm trying that patch first | 14:13 |
| real_ate | seeing if i can get it to work against the ubuntu source | 14:13 |
| real_ate | and starting from there | 14:13 |
| real_ate | and working back upstream | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | real_ate: maybe you really should try to get the KDM and GDM people to come up with a common specification for DM stuff | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | so that KDE works with GDM and GNOME with KDM when both GDM and KDM implement the specified behaviours and interfaces | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | the better part of the problem probably is that GDM derived from XDM (upon which both are based I recon) whereas KDM as I understand it stuck with comatibility with XDM | 14:15 |
| Riddell | I suspect that GDM and KDM maintainers aren't always the cooperative sorts | 14:15 |
| real_ate | apachelogger: well i think that sort of stuff is called for at the next desktop summit | 14:16 |
| * real_ate will be there | 14:16 | |
| real_ate | :) | 14:16 |
| real_ate | Riddell: well gdm is now using dbus i think | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | real_ate: it surely did not hurt to maybe try get some people thinking on this topic before hand | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yeah ;) | 14:16 |
| real_ate | and KDE people are really on the dbus bandwaggon | 14:16 |
| real_ate | apachelogger: :D | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | real_ate: KDM is a very special part within KDE | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | also as I said in the backend KDM supposedly is still largely based on XDM | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | so I am not sure the lead developer would be very much in favor of changing that, since he did not do until now | 14:17 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: why does Download page say 32 bit as recommended? | 14:18 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: works for everyone if they don't know or care about bits | 14:18 |
| persia | Well, not everyone: 6GB systems are out there, as are other architectures, but most folk. | 14:19 |
| shadeslayer | imo we should specify why you should download 64 bit | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you should not | 14:19 |
| shadeslayer | ( in cases where you have memory > 4GB ) | 14:19 |
| yofel | persia: iirc the -pae kernel supports >4GiB for 32bit | 14:20 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you mean amd64 is bad? | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | persia: pae resolves the RAM situation | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I mean that i386 is more reliable towards compatiblity | 14:20 |
| persia | Ah, cool. Still doesn't help with other architectures, but that's an entirely different discussion (and those folk should know) | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | recent example: the playstation emulator psX is linked against i386 so you'd need to spin around a bit until you get it to work | 14:21 |
| persia | There's also still heaps of stuff that isn't 64-bit safe and needs porting. | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: can you play http://maemo.nokia.com/videos/photos-and-sharing/ in rekonq? | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | rekonq just froze | 14:28 |
| hunger | Will kde 4.5.2 become available on maverick eventually? | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | hunger: it might | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | well | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | it already is in PPA | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: generally yes | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | freezes now and then | 14:29 |
| hunger | shadeslayer: I don't like using ppa... they tend to break when I upgrade:-/ | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i just have a white box and audio :( | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | the flash | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | hunger: uh, we actually verified that the upgrade went fine | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | ok, now it is frozen for good | 14:30 |
| hunger | shadeslayer: I'll just wait for the narwal repos to open then. | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | hunger: btw we might put 4.5.2 in updates, not sure when tho | 14:31 |
| hunger | shadeslayer: Yes, upgrading to a ppa usually works... upgrading the distro with a ppa installed did not work too well for me so far. | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ^ need to look into that too | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | meh oh meh | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I would not say that it is playable | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | hunger: ppa's are disabled when upgrading from one release to another | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | stupid flash | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: right, i cant even get it to load :/ | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | if they used html5 it would be a lot better :P | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | *nod* | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | I think the player has serious caching problems | 14:32 |
| hunger | shadeslayer: Yes, they are, but the packages are still installed and so far tended to confuse aptitude. | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | oh good now my gpu fan turned on | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | youtube+flash works fine tho | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | that is never a good isgn ^^ | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | *sign | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 14:32 |
| * apachelogger thinks KDE needs more kinetic scrolling | 14:33 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger++ | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | kinetic scrolling++ | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | more kinetic in general | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | i just use rekonq over chromium for kinetic scrolling :D | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | rekonq does have kinetic scrolling? | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | smoot scrolling its called | 14:34 |
| persia | What is "kinetic scrolling"? | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | that is a different thing | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pCVrltKOGQ ? | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | persia: when the scroll movement does not suddenly stop but sort of animated stop using an easing curve | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | persia: http://maemo.nokia.com/videos/photos-and-sharing/ | 14:35 |
| persia | apachelogger, Ah, but it doesn't imply reverse axes (finger-following)? | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | plasma widgets for example do it | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | persia: not AFAIK | 14:35 |
| persia | Thanks for the explanation. | 14:36 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: if i get my N900 in time, ill bring it to UDS and then we can play with kubuntu-mobile :P | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | also technically you can have all sorts of such fancy animations in Qt, problem is that you need to hand craft all that stuff | 14:36 |
| * persia installed that on a phone yesterday, and was unable to figure out how to stop dialing a number | 14:36 | |
| apachelogger | the qt animations foo helps a lot though | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you are getting an n900? | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: possibly yes... in the coming few days | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | oh my | 14:37 |
| * apachelogger envys shadeslayer | 14:37 | |
| shadeslayer | :> | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you think you could get knut to throw some at kubuntu devs? ^^ | 14:38 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: only if we go to devdays | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | meh | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you can play with mine for 5-6 days during UDS... if i get it in time :P | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | markey: ^ can you bribe knut? | 14:39 |
| shadeslayer | cya in a while ... | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: well, that is not a terribly long time :P | 14:40 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | oh, choqok to the rescue | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | what do you people think about animated wallpapers? | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | like something shining very subtle | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | or say if we had a wallpaper with a butterfly on it, have that butterfly fly around every once in a while | 14:42 |
| * apachelogger always thought that for suse it would be cool to have geeko sit around in some nice woodish scene and eat insects every once in a while ^^ | 14:43 | |
| persia | One could probably resurrect the old xroach code to have the gecko slowly crawl around the edges of windows or some such. | 14:44 |
| hunger | apachelogger: animated wallpapers are nice, but only on computers I do not really work on. | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | well, that is cheesy :P | 14:45 |
| persia | Wasn't there something in kde-games for a while. Automated Time Wasting Something? | 14:46 |
| ulysses | Upgrade fail after downloading packages with error code 1. If I try to resume, it doesn't start with error code 127. | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | hunger: well, not overly animated, just something very subtle that makes the desktop seem more alive | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | sort of like a screensaver before the screensaver ;) | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | persia: in kdetoys mabye | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | all sorts of useful things there ^^ | 14:47 |
| hunger | apachelogger: If it moves, then it draws away the attention... which I hate when I work. | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | hunger: you see the wallpaper when a window is open? | 14:47 |
| ulysses | Great, Kpackagekit cannot be started, aptitude fails to start… | 14:47 |
| hunger | apachelogger: But then I tend to not see the wallpaper anyway... so I would probably not care. | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | my point exactly :P | 14:48 |
| hunger | apachelogger: Depends. I never run anything fullscreen (exception is the netbook I use to travel). | 14:48 |
| hunger | apachelogger: But then I usually have an IRC app, browser, terminal, etc. next to the app I actually work with, covering the area not taken by the app itself. | 14:49 |
| persia | apachelogger, Dunno: last time I used that one was during the 20th century: it may well have been dropped in the meantime. | 14:49 |
| apachelogger | persia: kdetoys lost quite some useless foo in the porcess of KDE4ing I think | 14:50 |
| apachelogger | hunger: well, in any case one could turn it off | 14:50 |
| persia | hunger, Lately, I've been experimenting with a slideshow wallpaper. I don't see it much, but it's always a pleasant surprise when I do. | 14:50 |
| apachelogger | but I think it would add a nice touch to the default appearance of the system | 14:50 |
| hunger | apachelogger: If you are arguing that an animated wallpaper won't be noticable while working, then why have it at all? Better invest in cool screensavers then:-) | 14:50 |
| apachelogger | cool screensavers imply opengl | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | also opengl screensavers would eat the precious energy | 14:51 |
| hunger | apachelogger: animated wallpapers will eat energy, too. They will wake the CPU. | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | not as much as a screensaver hogging your gpu though | 14:52 |
| hunger | apachelogger: OK, much less than running GL;-) | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | also I think X will not redraw the area in question if it is covered by another window? | 14:53 |
| apachelogger | not sure about that, I never know what is a myth and what is reality with X ^^ | 14:53 |
| hunger | apachelogger: X won't, but you still need to wake the cpu, do the animation, send it to x so that it can ignore it:-) | 14:54 |
| JontheEchidna | \o/ | 14:54 |
| JontheEchidna | happy 10.10.10 | 14:54 |
| JontheEchidna | the only day when brits and usaguys can agree on what is the correct date format | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | hunger: I think that is negligible considering knotify4 will wake up the cpu way too often anyway ;) | 14:55 |
| persia | Nah. Happens every month. | 14:55 |
| hunger | apachelogger: Well, maybe you can do something clever with expose events, etc. | 14:55 |
| persia | Plus there's the 10-10-10 vs. 10.10.10 vs. 10/10/10 argument (and it's 22/10/10 here anyway) | 14:55 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | hunger: well, surely something to keep in mind, but at any rate I think it would only happen every 5 minutes or so... | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | preferrably irregular timing to ensure it is surprising ^^ | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | happy 42 to you too, JontheEchidna | 14:57 |
| hunger | apachelogger: if you do an animation then "n times every couple of minutes". | 14:57 |
| hunger | apachelogger: Well, it probably won't matter too much in any case. | 14:58 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, us archive is pretty fast for release day | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | hunger: oh, maybe, just maybe, you could ask X if the rect that is to be redrawn is covered by a window and only if not invoke the animation to begin with | 14:58 |
| hunger | apachelogger: True. | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: well, because it is sunday and social people do not upgrade their system on sunday but upload pictures of their family breakfast or something ;) | 14:59 |
| ryanakca | Congrats everybody on 10.10.10 :) | 14:59 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: In my case, I stayed up until three playing Half Life 2, and only woke up 5 mins ago ;) | 15:00 |
| hunger | apachelogger: and I am not representative anyway. My desktop is called "ugly" by most people:-) | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: oh, I was playing LOTR BFMEII ROTWK until one ;) | 15:02 |
| Riddell | persia: how is it 22/10/10 ? | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | jolly boring game | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | hunger: so you could have an ugly animation :P | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you should really be playing amnesia though | 15:03 |
| rdieter | real_ate: if you hadn't found it already, this is the patch you're likely after, http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=kdebase-workspace.git;a=blob_plain;f=kdebase-workspace-4.3.95-ck-shutdown.patch;hb=HEAD | 15:03 |
| * apachelogger is trying to get himself to continue playing for like a week without success | 15:03 | |
| real_ate | rdieter: how weird! I was JUST looking for that! :D the old like I had was on their cvs web view | 15:08 |
| real_ate | rdieter: cheers! | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | insanity: order cookies for Nightrose | 15:56 |
| * insanity slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to Nightrose. | 15:56 | |
| CIA-116 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1184492 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp Fix a bug where an empty line would make its way to the bottom of the installedFilesList(). (Visible once the list is sorted) | 16:05 |
| CIA-116 | [muon] jmthomas * 1184493 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/DetailsTabs/InstalledFilesTab.cpp Sort the file list before insertion into the text widget. FEATURE:253751 FIXED-IN:1.1 | 16:09 |
| JontheEchidna | btw, if there are any redditors in our midst: http://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/dpb8t/kubuntu_1010_released_featuring_kde_45_and_more/ | 16:13 |
| JontheEchidna | (Digg is dead, no more linux/unix section) | 16:13 |
| Riddell | really? boo for digg | 16:16 |
| JontheEchidna | whereas reddit has subreddits that anyone can create, including the rather-active kde subreddit :) | 16:18 |
| persia | Riddell, Probably about like 10/10/10 there, except with more emperors :) | 16:20 |
| CIA-116 | [muon] jmthomas * 1184500 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (ChangeLog libmuon/PackageModel/PackageProxyModel.cpp) Implement sort by status/requested status BUG:249929 FIXED-IN:1.1 | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: whats a direct instance of a class? | 17:15 |
| * shadeslayer is reading about abstract classes | 17:15 | |
| shadeslayer | so, class foo{ int foo; }; foo foo1 ? | 17:16 |
| shadeslayer | thats a direct instance ? | 17:16 |
| ulysses | my kubuntu maverick freezed, I can't do anyithing, I had to power off... | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: in a sentence please? | 17:18 |
| * apachelogger never heared the term direct instance in context of C++ | 17:18 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://www.csharpfriends.com/articles/getarticle.aspx?articleid=72 | 17:18 |
| shadeslayer | bstract class is a class that has no direct instances, but whose descendants may have direct instances. | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | usually however a direct instance of a class is an instance that is most specific to that class | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | Abstract even | 17:19 |
| allee | userconfig-kde4 bzr repo: Is it okay to push trival patches directly (add tabstop and buddy to user details) or is the policy bugreport + branch + please merge? | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | so if you have a class C and no other class derives from C or there are n instances of derived class any instance of C is on general prinziple a direct instance of C | 17:19 |
| JontheEchidna | allee: yeah, go for pushing patches. no need for extra beaurocracy when none is needed ;-) | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | in other cases you could have a class D that derives from C but you interact with it as if it were a C because it inherits all properties of C | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | in that case its a indirect instance? | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | in that case any instance of D would not be direct instances of C BUT instances of C | 17:20 |
| allee | JontheEchidna: double thx (other for #249929) | 17:21 |
| JontheEchidna | :) | 17:21 |
| Sput | abstract classes are classes that have abstract methods, i.e. methods that have no implementation in the base classe | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: instance's of C? multiple ? | 17:21 |
| Sput | virtual myMethod() = 0; | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: well, you can also have one ^^ | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | oh ok | 17:21 |
| Sput | an abstract class *cannot* be instantiated. | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | n instances of C with n > 0 :P | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what Sput is saying is probably what the author meant to say | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | Sput: thats another thing im trying to find out, instantiated .. | 17:22 |
| * shadeslayer has never heard of that word | 17:22 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: also csharp != c++ :P | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | i wasnt looking at the example ;) | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | now see | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | that example is also not aplicable to c++ :P | 17:23 |
| shadeslayer | i think ive understood it | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | in c++ a class becomes pure abstract by doing that virtual method() = 0; thing | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | you make a class foo, you derive foo1 from foo, but you cannot have instances of foo | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | that makes foo a abstract class | 17:24 |
| allee | QT dev days: some of you already in Munich? Plans for tonight? | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | and use what Sput has said :) | 17:24 |
| Sput | I'm in munich | 17:25 |
| Sput | shadeslayer: "intantiating class foo" means "creating an object of type foo" | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/comphelp/v8v101/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.xlcpp8a.doc%2Flanguage%2Fref%2Fcplr142.htm | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | Sput: oh yes, i understood it after i read it all together :D | 17:25 |
| Sput | and if Foo is a class that has abstract methods, you cannot create an object of type Foo | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | all there is to know about abstract classes :P | 17:26 |
| Sput | instead, you need to derive a subclass that implements the missing methods | 17:26 |
| Sput | in Java, abstract classes are called "interface" btw | 17:26 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: that is one awesome doc you found :D | 17:26 |
| Sput | because you specify the API (method signatures), but not actually the implementation | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | dude whenever you want some fancy infos on some C or C++ stuff, attach IBM to your google search ;) | 17:27 |
| shadeslayer | ah :D | 17:27 |
| shadeslayer | which reminds me | 17:27 |
| shadeslayer | Sput: i cant properly open *.*ubuntu.* links from quassel | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | for eg. | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | www.kubuntu.org | 17:28 |
| apachelogger | works with konqueror :P | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | gives me a weird url in chromiun : /var/cache/krun | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | something like that | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | file:///var/tmp/kdecache-shadeslayer/krun/3176.0. << to be exact | 17:29 |
| allee | Sput: any KDE/kubuntu plans for tonight beside hacking? | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | same thing with launchpad | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: try www.launchpad.net | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | that works too | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | issue in chromium i guess then :( | 17:30 |
| ulysses | bug 644740 still present... | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: maybe you are not properly escaping stuff? | 17:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 644740 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[GM45] GPU Hang when enabling KDE desktop effects" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/644740 | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | copy pasting links does the trick | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: where? | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | its stock kde 4.5.2 | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: in whereever however you are launching it | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | cause | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | the kruner intermediate thingies ought to contain the url to be opened | 17:31 |
| Sput | shadeslayer: most probably not a quassel bug, check out if it works with xdg-open | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | so that digity funk there is surely not the right name that chromium should get | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | which makes me believe that it falls over some character in the file name | 17:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i type www.launchpad.net in quassel and click that link in chat window and it opens that cache stuff | 17:31 |
| jjesse | i'm getting no problems with either launchpad oor kubuntu.org on chrome | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: so why does chromium come up? | 17:32 |
| jjesse | the one i download from google | 17:32 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: because ive set it as default atm ? | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | see | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | where did you set it as default | 17:32 |
| shadeslayer | system settings -> default applications | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | then there is where you should be looking for PEBKAC :P | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | PEBKAC ? :D | 17:33 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: works fine here with chromium daily | 17:34 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: i have the one from beta channel | 17:34 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 17:34 |
| shadeslayer | it works randomnly now | 17:34 |
| shadeslayer | *shrug | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISv9_2TfaeA&feature=player_embedded#! | 17:36 |
| shadeslayer | that is one awesome wallpaper | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | why is that? | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | animated wallpapers ftw :) | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | I find that particular one rather silly TBH | 17:38 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: erm.. btw... i removed that config you told me, instead of moving it, now i wonder how i reproduce the issue since now i have debug symbols | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | also, is there a way you can force plasma to use raster everytime it starts up? | 17:46 |
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| CIA-116 | [muon] jmthomas * 1184521 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (5 files in 2 dirs) Add a K/Ubuntu emblem to the package icon in the package view when a package is Canonical-supported. | 18:12 |
| JontheEchidna | http://imgur.com/uyPTu | 18:14 |
| JontheEchidna | more direct: http://i.imgur.com/uyPTu.png | 18:14 |
| shadeslayer | hmm .. | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | nice :) | 18:16 |
| JontheEchidna | neat thing is, due to kubuntu-default-settings, that'll be an ubuntu logo on Ubuntu systems | 18:17 |
| JontheEchidna | yay for the alternatives system | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | ooh | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. what do we have apart from wget in our download utilities | 18:54 |
| hunger | When will the narwal repos open? /me is always bored when there is no unstable ubuntu repo open:-) | 19:07 |
| Riddell | hunger: needs the toolchain to get uploaded first | 19:12 |
| shadeslayer | apparently rekonq doesnt open magnet links.. | 19:13 |
| neversfelde | some complaints about the font :( | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer | neversfelde: so ive heard... | 19:28 |
| neversfelde | :( | 19:28 |
| neversfelde | not good, we should really not change such things so late | 19:29 |
| JontheEchidna | it's just a font. I always have changed the default font. | 19:30 |
| ROSHA_home | hi guys | 19:30 |
| JontheEchidna | well, until now, but :P | 19:30 |
| shadeslayer | ->needsmorebandwidth() | 19:34 |
| neversfelde | JontheEchidna: sure, but it's not good to confront unexperienced users with it | 19:38 |
| neversfelde | they do not like, if a font is too small after an upgrade | 19:38 |
| JontheEchidna | we didn't overwrite existing font settings | 19:38 |
| * apachelogger badly cut himself while shaving | 19:38 | |
| apachelogger | I am going to bleed to death | 19:39 |
| apachelogger | omg | 19:39 |
| * apachelogger runs around in cycles | 19:39 | |
| neversfelde | JontheEchidna: mhh, seems to be a problem | 19:39 |
| neversfelde | I saw 4 people having problems with their font | 19:39 |
| neversfelde | not sure, if Ubuntu font is responsible | 19:40 |
| ulysses | system load is 67.42 and growing... | 19:49 |
| ulysses | 6.42* | 19:49 |
| shadeslayer | ulysses: i lol'd when i saw 67.42 | 19:50 |
| shadeslayer | load average: 0.40, 0.65, 0.67 << thats mine | 19:51 |
| shadeslayer | mem consumption is staggering tho | 19:51 |
| * shadeslayer hugs jussi | 19:51 | |
| shadeslayer | jussi: we wont take you to disneyland :P | 19:51 |
| ulysses | shadeslayer: it's 11.08 now... | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer | ulysses: what did you do? :D | 19:52 |
| ROSHA_home | Riddell: are you there ? | 19:52 |
| ulysses | upgraded from lucid... | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | plasma is actually taking up just 60megs now | 19:53 |
| Riddell | ROSHA_home: hi | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | go go raster | 19:53 |
| ROSHA_home | hi Riddell | 19:53 |
| ulysses | 13.26 \o/ | 19:53 |
| ROSHA_home | how are you ? | 19:53 |
| * shadeslayer commands ulysses system to shutdown | 19:53 | |
| shadeslayer | ulysses: restart! whats the uptime btw? | 19:53 |
| ulysses | 15 minutes | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: upstream recommends choqok 0.9.90 and qoauth 1.0.1, think we can put those in maverick-backports? | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | :S | 19:54 |
| ROSHA_home | Riddell: i think in next days you should start working on kubuntu 11.04 | 19:55 |
| ROSHA_home | Riddell: do you have any program for artworks (wallpaper,KDM,Ksplash, Splash Screens) and also making plasma configuration friendly ? | 19:57 |
| ROSHA_home | shadeslayer: ^ | 19:57 |
| shadeslayer | ROSHA_home: i want custom artwork as well | 19:59 |
| shadeslayer | but go through latest KDE masters of the universe podcast/whatever its called | 20:00 |
| shadeslayer | also, ive talked to pinotree, he says he will deliver a awesome wallpaper in 4.6 | 20:00 |
| shadeslayer | and thats what 11.04 will ship | 20:00 |
| ROSHA_home | shadeslayer: i have many program for kubuntu 11.04 | 20:02 |
| ROSHA_home | shadeslayer: if you like i can do those for kubunu | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | ROSHA_home: id say work with pinotree to get awesome artwork into KDE | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | that way everyone benefits | 20:02 |
| ROSHA_home | ok | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | but id really like some kubuntu branding... one of the topics to be discussed at UDS i hope | 20:03 |
| Riddell | as ever, I'm very happy with the upstream KDE artwork and don't see any reason to change it | 20:07 |
| * DarkwingDuck agrees | 20:15 | |
| DarkwingDuck | If it isn't broke... | 20:15 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: you like Ethias? :D | 20:17 |
| Riddell | sure | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: imo we should offer one more choice apart from the default wallpaper | 20:18 |
| shadeslayer | for that we need more space | 20:18 |
| shadeslayer | and for that, we must shrink/kick off stuff from CD :( | 20:18 |
| ulysses | shadeslayer: now I started with 2.6.32, seems OK | 20:19 |
| shadeslayer | ulysses: kernel issue then? | 20:20 |
| ulysses | shadeslayer: maybe, I hope not xorg | 20:20 |
| * shadeslayer writes a image of chrome os onto USB | 20:22 | |
| ulysses | it freezed again... | 20:27 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: other wallpapers are easy enough to download, there's packages and Get Hot New Stuff. our CDs only have space for a basic operating system, anything else is a luxury | 20:31 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yeah agreed on that | 20:31 |
| shadeslayer | imo we should have a Install More KDE wallpapers from packages link | 20:32 |
| shadeslayer | s/link/button | 20:32 |
| Riddell | Desktop Settings does have just such a button | 20:33 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: not a install packages button :) | 20:33 |
| shadeslayer | GHNS button for sure ... | 20:34 |
| shadeslayer | ok ill bbiab | 20:34 |
| ulysses | shadeslayer: I updated to KDE 4.5.2 from the PPA, almost everything is OK, only the switch between windows is slow, very slow… | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer | ulysses: intel graphics card? | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: pingly | 21:41 |
| ulysses | shadeslayer: yes, an Intel GMA4500MHD | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | lord google calls | 21:42 |
| shadeslayer | ulysses: i think ScottK may know about the issue :) | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: pongyly | 21:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: hehe, need some help with KRun | 21:42 |
| shadeslayer | im trying to implement magnet support in rekonq | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | ... | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | ....... | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | ......... | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | you remember apturl? | 21:43 |
| shadeslayer | i tried out konqueror, it tries to launch magnet links with ktorrent but fails, i cant find the code that does that | 21:43 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeah | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | you remember what I told you about how it is done? | 21:43 |
| shadeslayer | i dont want to use KProcess | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | if you had done it that way you would now not be spending time on solving a problem that really is not a problem at al | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | l | 21:43 |
| shadeslayer | http://pastebin.com/TTeeDNd4 < you mean thats a bad implementation :D | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | yes it is | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | and I told you so | 21:44 |
| shadeslayer | ok ... | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | KService/KProtocol* is what should have been used to begin with | 21:46 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 21:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: but doesnt this mean hardcoding the applications that can open the URL? | 21:52 |
| apachelogger | wah? | 21:52 |
| shadeslayer | KService::KService(const QString & name, const QString & exec, const QString & icon) | 21:52 |
| shadeslayer | exec is the executable | 21:52 |
| apachelogger | you ask kprotocolinfo isProtocolKnown(prot) or something like that | 21:52 |
| apachelogger | then it goes like, yeah yeah, and then you go, well, then exec(url) or something like that | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | and then kprotocolinfo will fiddle out on its own what to do | 21:53 |
| shadeslayer | ohk | 21:53 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: the code is most likely just 3-4 lines i suppose? | 21:55 |
| apachelogger | never done it, but in theory | 21:55 |
| shadeslayer | uh hmm | 21:56 |
| shadeslayer | exec returns QString | 21:56 |
| shadeslayer | does it start the required application too? | 21:56 |
| shadeslayer | i think it just returns executable to start | 21:57 |
| shadeslayer | and then you use KService? | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | I think you would krun it or klaunch it | 21:59 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 21:59 |
| shadeslayer | oh this sounds good | 21:59 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: possibly krun and klaunch even take care of the protocol lookup foo | 22:00 |
| apachelogger | then again you probably cannot do proper error handling beforehand | 22:01 |
| shadeslayer | looking at klaunch atm | 22:01 |
| apachelogger | say display a fancy protocol not supported page | 22:01 |
| shadeslayer | i _think_ ive figured out what needs to be done, lets see if i can code it | 22:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: is there a difference between what exec returns and what KLauncher::start_service_by_desktop_name will take in serviceName ? | 22:06 |
| shadeslayer | 'serviceName' refers to a desktop file describing the service. The service is looked up anywhere in $KDEDIR/applnk and/or $KDEDIR/services. E.g. it should have the form "korganizer". :: from api | 22:06 |
| apachelogger | protocols aint regular desktop files | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | what exec returns is the exec field of the protocol | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | which can be an executable OR a library | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | see documentation | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | or to put it the debian way... | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | RTFM | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 22:07 |
| shadeslayer | and serviceName is ? | 22:07 |
| shadeslayer | heh :P | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | thats the arch way as well ;) | 22:08 |
| apachelogger | here is the apachelogger way: I am watching Glee and aint have no time to lookup kservice foo :P | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | ohh.. ok wont disturb ya | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: maybe use some code search engine and look for things using kprotocolinfo | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | like lxdr? | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | i mean, lkxr | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | meh | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | lxt | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | forget it | 22:13 |
| shadeslayer | im reading http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials | 22:14 |
| will_1987 | hey guys | 22:18 |
| howlymowly | hi poeple... short question: Is it possible to change the size of the panel in plasama-netbook? After I added a widget to my panel in plasma-netbook, its size has been changed. its now biger than before. Is it possible to revert that somehow? | 22:23 |
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