[00:00] <Timo_> hey guys! Howdy!
[00:00] <Timo_> szczur: I miss you @ #lubuntu-offtopic
[00:00] <Kurdistan> hey
[00:01] <Timo_> hi Kurdistan
[00:01] <Kurdistan> How are you timo bimo?
[00:06] <phillw> Kurdistan: join us in #lubuntu-offtopic
[00:07] <Kurdistan> okej
[00:21] <szczur> Timo_, :)
[00:33] <Kurdistan> timo join lubunu-offtopic
[00:34] <Timo_> I'm always in lubuntu-offtopic
[00:45] <TassLehoff> hi
[00:49] <jrmy> someone explain the difference between lubuntu vs ubuntu and xubuntu?
[00:51] <Kurdistan> lubuntu use lxde and xubuntu xfce
[00:52] <Kurdistan> both is good. abot flavor and what you want from distro.
[00:52] <jrmy> i dont know if i care so much.. i do liek how xubuntu's setup is and the xfce terminal.. but speed is the main issue
[00:53] <Kurdistan> jrmy I think lubuntu can be faster
[00:53] <Kurdistan> lubuntu is lighther
[00:53] <jrmy> is there screen shots of lubuntu?
[00:54] <Kurdistan> jrmy yes
[00:54] <jrmy> will i find them on the lubuntu website?
[00:55] <Kurdistan> http://www.seoexpertconsultants.com/index.php?linux&release=Lubuntu%2010.04
[00:56] <jrmy> looks like windows
[00:56] <latiter> hey
[00:56] <latiter> anyone here?
[00:57] <jrmy> !help
[00:58] <jrmy> im not sure if i want to switch to lubuntu
[00:59] <Tir_Eoghan> give the livecd a try
[00:59] <Kurdistan> jrmy if you are pleased with xubuntu stay with xubuntu
[01:00] <latiter> hehe kk . Aynone has an idea for that? I've got a Dell latitute laptop with a broadcom chip it is the 4306 rev. 3.... but it's working with the b43 drivers not with the legacy like it was said in the tut. but in ubuntu this is no issue, in lubuntu there is no b43-fwcutter or anyhting.. i haven't got wlan nor a lan connection, how can i install the wlan driver?
[01:00] <jrmy> well i had no knowledge of lubutnu till now.. i had switched from ubuntu because of speed issue when i heard about xubuntu
[01:01] <jrmy> Kurdistan: where might i find a list of preinstalled apps and other stuff?
[01:02] <Kurdistan> for lubuntu or xubuntu?
[01:02] <latiter> ifconfig wlan0 = SIOSCIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[01:02] <jrmy> Kurdistan: lubuntu
[01:02] <jrmy> i pretty much know xubuntu now
[01:03] <Kurdistan> jrmy honestly did you take a look at the pictures?
[01:03] <jrmy> yes
[01:03] <Kurdistan> there you can see :) default application in lubuntu lucid
[01:04] <Kurdistan> maverick have replaced some and removed some
[01:04] <jrmy> ah, i didnt notice t showing all the apps
[01:05] <Kurdistan> :)
[01:05] <jrmy> what does it use liek how ubuntu and xubuntu use thunar and nautilus
[01:05] <jrmy> (dont know what this is called)
[01:05] <Kurdistan> jrmy pcman
[01:06] <Kurdistan> it is lighter
[01:06] <Kurdistan> like I said if you like xubuntu stay with xubuntu
[01:07] <jrmy> i'll have to try it to like it or not
[01:07] <Kurdistan> but if you want a lighter ubuntu derivate lubuntu is the one
[01:07] <Kurdistan> download the livecd burn to a cd or usb
[01:07] <jrmy> right
[01:08] <Kurdistan> if you have really old computer I think lubuntu is better
[01:08] <Kurdistan> it uses less ram
[01:08] <Kurdistan> but then xubuntu have som goddies that lubuntu lacks
[01:09] <jrmy> which are?
[01:09] <Kurdistan> latiter stil here?
[01:09] <latiter> yeah
[01:09] <Kurdistan> try out wifi rader or wicd
[01:10] <Kurdistan> if you want your wifi connection to work if lubuntus doesnt
[01:10] <latiter> mhm i don't think that's the problem.
[01:10] <latiter> the problem is that my wifi card needs firmware which isn't installed
[01:10] <Kurdistan> latiter it fined mine out of the box
[01:11] <latiter> how can i install wicd without being connected to a network? ;)
[01:11] <Kurdistan> damn is it late. I think you can look in terminal. but now I can not remenber command lines. :)
[01:12] <jrmy> lol
[01:12] <jrmy> i just realized that
[01:12] <Kurdistan> latiter you are connectet. :)
[01:12] <latiter> yeah, with another pc
[01:12] <jrmy> well if you have a flash drive im sure its an easy task
[01:12] <Kurdistan> :) I hope you have remenberd to press wifi button
[01:13] <jrmy> i hate it when i do that
[01:14] <latiter> No. How should it be an easy task when i have a flash drive? the only solution i can think of is, i will build fwcutter on my own and ectracting witht that the driver. mhm
[01:14] <phillw> latiter: is it a wifi problem or ethernet?
[01:15] <latiter> it is a problem with my wlan card... the driver seems okay. but the firmware is needed ( broadcom 4306 rev.3) ... i tetsted it with arch linux where it needed the b43 firmware from the wlan site of kernel.org
[01:16] <Kurdistan> have nice evening
[01:16] <Kurdistan> I am going to bad
[01:16] <latiter> good night
[01:17] <latiter> It is somehow strange, that it is no issue with ubuntu, but with lubuntu.
[01:18] <phillw> latiter: that is odd, as lubuntu is built on the ubuntu kernel. However http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1368699 may be of help?
[01:21] <latiter> thanks phillw, but what is meant by navigating to the pool ?
[01:22] <phillw> latiter: are you running from live usb?
[01:22] <latiter> no installed from a usb
[01:23] <latiter> running the system already
[01:23] <phillw> then you do need that section, that is only for people running off usb
[01:24] <phillw> latiter: take a bit of time and read through that posting, last time I needed broadcom with lubuntu I just got it via restricted drivers.
[01:25] <latiter> yeah thanks for that i'm trying it!
[01:27] <aguitel> phillw, hello ,what about lubuntu 10.10?
[01:28] <phillw> aguitel: lubuntu 10.10 will be out when it is ready, we are not tied to this 10/10/10 stuff, Julien will only release it when built and happy.
[01:28] <aguitel> phillw, ok
[01:34] <latiter> mhm i installed b43-fwcutter now through the .deb package...but it won't process the driver =/
[01:40] <phillw> latiter: I got mine working okay, for info on wireless problems I'd really suggest heading over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336 they have a set of stickies you can read and you can also ask specific questions (please use the lubuntu tag and mention you're using lubuntu, so they can help you better).
[02:41] <jrmy> can lubuntu be just as useful as ubuntu?
[02:41] <jrmy> as for what you can use
[02:41] <jrmy> idk maybe that is to broad of a question
[04:48] <sebsebseb> Hi
[11:52] <leszek> hi
[12:25] <|friTTe|> \o
[12:49] <|friTTe|> so guys, im perfecting my kitchen comp Lubu 10.10, what photosoftware should i go with? shotwell nd fspot is gnome
[12:50] <leszek> shotwell is pretty much one of the fastest
[12:50] <|friTTe|> ok
[12:50] <|friTTe|> well i guess i can give it a try
[12:51] <|friTTe|> im on gnome on my other desktop, but im trying other alts on this one =)
[12:51] <|friTTe|> gnomme isnt exactly light righ
[12:51] <leszek> gthumb is also very good for viewing and basic editing but the management features are a little bit outdated
[12:51] <|friTTe|> ok
[12:52] <leszek> gnome uses definitely more system ressources than lxde ;)
[12:52] <|friTTe|> yeah
[12:52] <|friTTe|> hhee
[12:52] <|friTTe|> well this one got 1gb ram but the gfx vćard is the biggest problem
[12:52] <|friTTe|> its some Amd sempron processor with onboard Via
[12:52] <|friTTe|> scrolling webpages isnt smooth =D
[12:53] <slow-motion> is lubuntu 10.10 out already? i dont see it on the website
[12:54] <|friTTe|> beta 2
[12:54] <|friTTe|> final comes out once Julien has done his magic hehe
[12:54] <slow-motion> ok
[12:54] <|friTTe|> but beta 2 is smooth and you can update to final
[14:04] <Kurdistan> I guys when will lubuntu release
[14:05] <Kurdistan> btw when lubuntu comes out I will install it
[14:05] <Kurdistan> I installed ubuntu stable maverick
[14:08] <bioterror> there's no new xubuntu neither
[14:08] <bioterror> kubuntu is, but who really likes that KDE ;)
[14:10] <Kurdistan> haha bioterror kde-hater?
[14:10] <Kurdistan> ubuntu maverick my mouse seems to not work
[14:14] <Kurdistan> xubuntu is released
[14:14] <Kurdistan> now only lubuntu left :P
[14:16] <kosaidpo> Kurdistan: hello will lubuntu be supportel by cannonical ?
[14:16] <Kurdistan> kosaidpo not in maverick
[14:16] <Kurdistan> hopefully next release cicle
[14:17] <kosaidpo> ohh okies cus i read somewhere in the net that it will be
[14:24] <leszek> kosaidpo: it was planned for maverick (10.10) but didn't work out somehow
[14:26] <bioterror> Kurdistan, I've tried KDE many times and everytime Im even more dissapointed
[14:26] <bioterror> Kurdistan, controls are weird, configurations are weird and it just feels so awful
[14:26] <Kurdistan> haha bioterror
[14:27] <bioterror> I'm not suprised that gnome is teh winnah ;)
[14:27] <leszek> bioterror: I hope not only kde on kubuntu, because IMHO thats the worst kde integration I ever saw
[14:27] <bioterror> I've tried that Chakra too
[14:28] <bioterror> http://chakra-project.org/
[14:28] <leszek> but if you having problems with the overall look and feel then its simply "a liking" thing
[14:28] <kosaidpo> bioterror: kde its kinda slowy and hungry ressource
[14:28] <Kurdistan> guys/girls brb reboot
[14:28] <kosaidpo> plus it need time to get used to it
[14:28] <bioterror> dolphin is awesome
[14:29] <leszek> kosaidpo: kde is in fact not only a desktop but a whole software collection, if take a look at all the stuff you get with it
[14:29] <bioterror> beats shit out of nautilus
[14:29] <bioterror> kde = desktop environment
[14:29] <bioterror> just like xfce and gnome
[14:29] <leszek> bioterror: its called KDE SC nowadays :P
[14:29] <kosaidpo> yehh i kno hihi mean its not smple like other
[14:29] <kosaidpo> s
[14:29] <kosaidpo> like gnome or LXDE
[14:29] <leszek> K(ool) Desktop Environment Software Compilation :P
[14:29] <kosaidpo> or w,e
[14:29] <kosaidpo> or xfce
[14:30] <leszek> except for the fact it ships with lots more software
[14:30] <leszek> gnome & xfce & lxde ships even with huge difference of default apps
[14:30] <leszek> -s
[14:31] <kosaidpo> leszek: bioterror you guys kde users ?? if so can you tell me what features you like most in it
[14:31] <Kurdistan> back
[14:32] <kosaidpo> Kurdistan: are you a muslim ??
[14:32] <leszek> kosaidpo: Activities
[14:32] <kosaidpo> leszek: sorry didnt get it
[14:32] <Kurdistan> kosaidpo, funny question is that important?
[14:33] <leszek> " you guys kde users ?? if so can you tell me what features you like most in it" I like the most and use the most activities in kde 4. From a developers point of view solid is also very interesting
[14:34] <kosaidpo> leszek: well i jst wanna have an idea thats all not funny or anythin : D
[14:34] <Kurdistan> I am not muslim. I dont believe in Allah. I dont believe in religion but If I would choose I would choose the zerdesti
[14:36] <bioterror> :D
[14:36] <kosaidpo> Kurdistan: i jst asked thats all well im too sorry for you cus you say/think like this
[14:36] <kosaidpo> cus i kno the country kurdistan i hear of it but idk wht religion has
[14:36] <kosaidpo> so yeah
[14:39] <bioterror> I sold my soul to BSD Daemon ;)
[14:41] <Kurdistan> we should not talk religion here
[14:42] <Kurdistan> kosaidpo, ubuntu support muslims too.
[14:42] <Kurdistan> they have there own distro/derivate
[14:42] <Kurdistan> you can install it and try out
[15:07] <Kurdistan> brb reboot
[15:09] <TassLehoff> hi
[15:10] <bioterror> hi
[15:55] <phillw> and now we wait :)
[15:57] <phillw> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2010-October/000139.html
[16:03]  * gilir is still testing the final iso ...
[16:05] <_friTTe_> \o gilir
[16:05] <_friTTe_> sounds good :)
[16:06] <gilir> not so good, the usb installation is badly broken for me :/
[16:07] <gilir> I don't know if it's my system, or the iso itself
[16:07] <phillw> cheers gilir, I wasn't sure what your workload was for today.
[16:07] <phillw> gilir: have you had a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1572058 ?
[16:10] <gilir> phillw, it's not a problem when I boot, but when I install :(
[16:12] <gilir> I'll make 2 extras tests, if I can't see the problem, I'll publish with a note
[16:13] <gilir> At least, "Check disk" and "Install" menu entries now work :)
[16:13] <phillw> Cool, no more manual md5checksum writing for phillw :)
[16:13] <_friTTe_> you are a legend
[16:14] <_friTTe_> =)
[16:14] <phillw> I'll pop it onto usb and try the 10.10 on my system once you release it.
[16:21]  * phillw checks data allowance, still has 3.8GB and 16 days to use it :)
[16:47] <Kurdistan> back again girls/boys :)
[16:49] <econdudeawesome> was Lubuntu 10.10 released today?
[16:49] <Kurdistan> I got explained how to fix ugly splash after installning nvidia closed
[16:49] <Kurdistan> econdudeawesome you mean the fast buntu?
[16:49] <Kurdistan> :)
[16:51] <Kurdistan> it will come when the guys feel it is polished
[16:51] <Kurdistan> maybee one or two days delay
[16:52] <phillw> econdudeawesome: the iso is being builtand tested, but not yet released.
[16:52] <phillw> wb Kurdistan
[16:53] <econdudeawesome> fair enough. I'll update later then :-D
[16:53] <econdudeawesome> Kurdistan: of course its the fast buntu :-)
[16:54] <Kurdistan> :) the fast buntu is delay
[16:54] <Kurdistan> haha
[16:54] <Kurdistan> :P
[16:54] <Kurdistan> phillw thx
[16:55] <phillw> econdudeawesome: if you're running lubuntu 10.10beta series, you will just need to update.
[17:15] <gilir> Lubuntu 10.10 is released : https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg02557.html
[17:15] <gilir> please use the torrent ;)
[17:16] <leszek> nice :)
[17:20]  * phillw blushes
[17:25] <|friTTe|> =)
[17:25] <|friTTe|> mine seems to be updated
[17:25] <|friTTe|> hehe according to update manager
[17:30] <phillw> |friTTe|: it should auto update, it is only the building of the new iso for installations that takes a little time :)
[17:31] <|friTTe|> yeah
[17:32] <|friTTe|> oh no, waiting....omg..dont like =D
[17:45]  * phillw the scurrying sound is me desperately running around and updating the wiki pages, please let me know of any I miss (I always manage to miss at least one ;-) )
[17:45] <phillw> I'll strangle that Zach next time he's on :P
[17:46] <phillw> hmmm, seeding via 3G dongle, well, it should be good for a laugh :)
[17:47] <|friTTe|> hehe
[17:47] <Kurdistan> lubuntu is released
[17:47] <Kurdistan> :P
[17:48] <|friTTe|> grabbing the iso now, will help out seeding hehe
[17:48] <|friTTe|> Kurdistan,  yeah, done the upgrade?
[17:48] <|friTTe|> im waiting for it to show up =P
[17:49] <|friTTe|> phillw,  wich torrent should i download for te seeding?
[17:49] <Kurdistan> fritte :P haha no
[17:49] <Kurdistan> was kidding
[17:50] <Kurdistan> Lubuntu is the way to go
[17:50] <Kurdistan> Ubuntu is to slow
[17:50] <|friTTe|> yeah i know
[17:50] <|friTTe|> im waiting for some updates for my Lubu 10.10 now
[17:50] <|friTTe|> Lubuntu 10.10 is released : https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg02557.html
[17:51] <Kurdistan> is lubuntu maverick stable released?
[17:52] <|friTTe|> thats the new one
[17:52] <|friTTe|> hehe
[17:54] <Kurdistan> I will install it later on
[17:54] <|friTTe|> yeah
[17:55] <|friTTe|> i will seed once i grabbed the iso,
[17:55] <Kurdistan> somebody from our developer here? is this the final iso?
[17:55] <|friTTe|> gilir,
[17:56] <|friTTe|> hes the man =)
[17:56] <|friTTe|> he did that announcement
[17:56] <gilir> Kurdistan, it is the final one
[17:56] <Kurdistan> the homepage should update
[17:56] <|friTTe|> it comes
[17:57] <Kurdistan> gilir I will download and seed
[17:57] <|friTTe|> guess theres alot of requests now and stuff
[17:57] <Kurdistan> now I must turn the laptop off
[17:57] <|friTTe|> well im off for some food for a bit
[17:57] <|friTTe|> ttyl
[18:10] <ShinDarth> should Lubuntu 10.10 come out today?
[18:12] <bioterror> it's released
[18:13] <bioterror> https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg02557.html
[18:14] <bioterror> torrent is the suggested
[18:17] <highvoltage> whohoo!
[18:22] <ShinDarth> http://lubuntu.net/ there's still 10.04 download avaible
[18:23] <ShinDarth> download 10.10 avaible there: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-10.10.iso
[18:24] <ShinDarth> bye
[18:30] <mark76> Has anyone else here updated to 10.10?
[19:26] <Kurdistan> sharing the lubuntu maverick final
[19:28]  * phillw so far so good, iso downloaded and md5'd, just got to wait 3 - 4  hours for it to upload to my server.
[19:29] <Kurdistan> share ratio, over 0.8 :)
[19:30] <phillw> I was sharing, but am 3G device, so need that data speed to upload as secondary server. (I hope iWeb do not really annoyed at me for doing this).
[19:30] <slow-motion> i will change back from xubuntu to lubuntu
[19:31] <sebsebseb> Oh Lubuntu :)
[19:31] <slow-motion> had lubuntu 10.4 then a new notebook and xubuntu 10.4
[19:31] <slow-motion> now my notebook will get lubuntu 10.10
[19:33] <Kurdistan> wb slowmotion
[19:33] <slow-motion> hi Kurdistan
[19:33] <Kurdistan> you can not get enough of the speed of lubuntu
[19:33] <Kurdistan> be honest :)
[19:33] <slow-motion> i used xuuntu at first on the notebook because izt
[19:34] <slow-motion> it was new and i was not so familar with lubuntu
[19:35] <phillw1> Kurdistan: lubuntu is really small, drat, I think I just killed my upload :-(
[19:35] <Kurdistan> haha phillw1
[19:36] <|friTTe|> im also seeding the torrent now
[19:36] <phillw1> bbs
[19:37] <Kurdistan> thats nice fritte
[19:39] <mark76> I've had to switch back to Nitrogen for the background since updating to 10.10
[19:39] <|friTTe|> mark76,  did you upgrade from beta to final?
[19:39] <mark76> For some reason the pcmanfm 0.9.7 desktop completely covers everything
[19:39] <|friTTe|> i havent gotten any yet
[19:39] <mark76> I just did the general upgrade today Frittel
[19:40] <Kurdistan> guys you all install ubuntu restricted or lubuntu restricted?
[19:40] <slow-motion> i cant seed. my router dont like me
[19:40] <|friTTe|> guess i have it
[19:40] <|friTTe|> hehe says 10.10 in sysinfo
[19:40] <slow-motion> restricted?
[19:40] <|friTTe|> earlier it said devel
[19:40] <|friTTe|> Kurdistan,  i installed both
[19:41] <Kurdistan> what is the difference between them? :)
[19:41] <|friTTe|> not sure
[19:41] <|friTTe|> some diff in packages
[19:42] <Kurdistan> gilir or somebody else :) tell us
[19:44] <Kurdistan> fritte på lubuntu autostart har du default eller gör du ändringar där?
[19:44] <Kurdistan> vad som ska autostarta?
[19:47] <|friTTe|> kör default
[19:47] <Kurdistan> nice
[19:47] <Kurdistan> visst fluger den?
[19:47] <Kurdistan> kör du med öppna eller stängda drivar?
[19:48] <|friTTe|> mitt sugiga onboard kort så öppna
[19:49] <Kurdistan> okej. öppna är faktiskt mycket snabbare än stängda hos mig.
[19:51] <Kurdistan> ska testa livecd med lubuntu på sticka
[19:51] <Kurdistan> ha det
[20:02] <sebsebseb> Svenska
[20:02] <sebsebseb> :D
[20:03] <|friTTe|> =)
[20:04] <sebsebseb> Var I Sverige bor du?
[20:04] <|friTTe|> vingåker
[20:05] <sebsebseb> jag vet inte vad det är men ocky
[20:05] <sebsebseb> ockj
[20:06] <|friTTe|> litet ställe typ 6mil från Örebro
[20:06] <xGrind> lubuntu 10.10 ?
[20:06] <|friTTe|> yeah
[20:06] <xGrind> final ?
[20:07] <|friTTe|> yep
[20:07] <phillw> xGrind: yeah
[20:07] <sebsebseb> jag vet inte vad Örebro är heller, jag är halv svensk bor i England
[20:07] <|friTTe|> ok
[20:07] <sebsebseb> !isitout | xGrind
[20:07] <phillw> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-10.10.iso.torrent
[20:07] <|friTTe|> that one is seeding from ovr here now =)
[20:08] <sebsebseb> Lubuntu is nice, but loads of distros out there that can use LXDE, with a better distro base :)
[20:08] <bioterror> phillw, add that that to topic ;)
[20:08] <phillw> The ubuntu servers are being hammered, as usual. please use the torrents.
[20:08] <sebsebseb> phillw: noobs and fan boys downloading today :D
[20:08] <phillw> I'm getting a copy uploaded to me server, but it will be several hours before it is there.
[20:08] <|friTTe|> its good that they hammer the server for Lubuntu
[20:09] <|friTTe|> but torrents are better hehe
[20:09] <sebsebseb> well at least Lubuntu doesn't have loads of horrible changes, like Ubuntu does since 10.04, but it started with 9.04 and 9.10
[20:09] <phillw> |friTTe|: no, lubuntu is on the same server as ubuntu, xubuntu etc.
[20:09] <sebsebseb> I mean the downstream Gnome patching
[20:09] <|friTTe|> ok
[20:09] <|friTTe|> but i mean its good that they want it
[20:09] <sebsebseb> also I like the Lubuntu theme,  it reminds me of a theme or two for Mandriva :)
[20:10] <sebsebseb> nice and blue :)
[20:10] <phillw> !topic
[20:11] <sebsebseb> phillw: I was thinking why you saying view the topic, I guess its since #lubuntu-offtopic ?
[20:14] <sebsebseb> phillw: you need the c in that :D
[20:14] <phillw> it's too long, I'm trying to shorten it !!!!
[20:14] <sebsebseb> in the channel name
[20:15] <phillw> That's near enough :)
[20:15] <sebsebseb> phillw: so you were trying to update the topic with !topic not telling me to look at it? :D
[20:16] <phillw> sebsebseb: I needed a copy of it to cut and paste, it was not directed at anyone :)
[20:17]  * phillw hates using mod functions :\
[20:17] <sebsebseb> phillw: oh ok :)
[20:18] <phillw> If it were directed at you it would be along the lines of
[20:18] <phillw> !topic | sebsebseb
[20:19] <sebsebseb> phillw: right ok
[20:20] <phillw> anyone on the room can use the ubot, it's there to help. for example if a new comer is struggling with using CLI, you need only type in
[20:21] <phillw> !lxterminal
[20:21] <bioterror> phillw, I've used it ;)
[20:22] <phillw> it's very good of them to a) allow it, b) modify it for us as we're not officially adopted yet. (I could win a gold medal at the olympics for begging) ;)
[20:23] <|friTTe|> phillw,  dont stress to much now =) sit back and relax..enjoy the release and torrents and all
[20:23] <|friTTe|> phillw,  dont stress to much now =) sit back and relax..enjoy the release and torrents and all
[20:23] <|friTTe|> oops
[20:24] <phillw> |friTTe|: I still have another 10 pages of wiki pages to update !!!!
[20:25]  * phillw is going to kill Zach.
[20:28] <|friTTe|> hmm sounds hard
[20:31] <phillw> I've got the main pages done, we don't need the new area done urgently as it is for the 11.04 release cycle. But I hate having the pages not in sync with eachother.
[20:42] <mark76> Is there a workaround for the 0.9.7 desktop issue?
[20:49] <phillw> mark76: I'm assuming you are referring to pcmanfm, which issue are you having?
[20:51] <mark76> When I use pcmanfm 0.9.7 to set the wallpaper it sits at the top of the stack rather than the bottom
[20:53] <slow-motion> why is aptitude no longer included in the normal installation?
[20:55] <phillw> mark76: you'd probably be better of asking on the mailing list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved
[20:55] <phillw> slow-motion: that was a ubuntu decisions, and there has been immense amounts of grief over it.
[20:56] <phillw> I use apt, so it does not affect me.
[20:56] <mark76> I wonder if a newer version of pcmanfm solves the issue
[20:57] <phillw> mark76: what version of lubuntu are you running?
[20:57] <mark76> 10.10
[20:58] <sebsebseb> nice Unity in Lubuntu :D
[20:58] <sebsebseb> on a desktop
[20:58] <phillw> you will have the most recent version of pcmanfm, then. File a bug via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs
[20:59] <phillw> if pcman does not know of the issue, he cannot fix it :)
[21:01] <mark76> Hmm, It would appear that xchat doesn't know how to open links in Chromium
[21:06] <mark76> Reporting bugs is technical and complicated. I'll wait for someone else to have the same problem and use Nitrogen in the meantime
[21:07] <phillw> mark76: that would either be an xchat bug, or a chromium one. as I don't use xchat as my client and chromium works fine, my bet is on xchat :)
[21:08] <mark76> Yep
[21:08] <mark76> Mine too
[21:08]  * phillw is old fashioned and still uses pidgin ;)
[21:09] <mark76> It's really all there is apart from empathy, kopete and an IRC client with bitlbee
[21:10] <phillw> I use it as it is a one stop shop for my IRC, my Yahoo!, AIM and MSN accounts. It may not the best one in the world, but it's pretty bomb proof :D
[21:11] <phillw> the mozilla group do an IRC client, if i recall. Or it may be a server that they do.
[21:14] <floating> is that ubuntus new 'me menu' thing there on lubuntu too ?
[21:15] <mark76> Chatzilla, Phil
[21:15] <floating> or to install that or some of those new ubuntu things, would there be lot of bad dependencies
[21:20] <gilir> sorry phillw, I think we will have a lots of questions/feedbacks in the next days :)
[21:21] <phillw> gilir: the channel is now being logged, so we can go back through them and see what issues etc. there are. (Got the log-bot just in time :D )
[21:21] <phillw> gilir: my busiest day was 9.10, I made over 500 posts on the forum in 14 hours !!!
[21:22] <floating> my little sister has a crappy netbook. just checked ubuntus page for netbook edition. it advertised 'me menu', ubuntu one, and unity there.. I guess my little sister would like some of that stuff, but i'd rather install a basic lubuntu and go from there.. I hope it'd be easy to add some of that new social networking sugar that ubuntu has recently come up
[21:22] <gilir> phillw, impresive :)
[21:23] <phillw> tiring :)
[21:25] <hosoka> hello all
[21:25] <phillw> floating: the thing to bear in mind is that you can drag in all of GNOMES family with certain applications, watch over what an application wants to bring along as its dependent relatives :p
[21:25] <phillw> wb hosoka
[21:26] <hosoka> Is there a way to upgrade Lubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 ? Is there a same path like in Ubuntu to upgrade from terminal or Alt+F2
[21:26] <gilir> floating, me-menu depends on telepathy (empathy) and gwibber, which is not a little depends for Lubuntu
[21:26] <floating> how much dependencies could I tolerate
[21:27] <gilir> only you have the answer :)
[21:27] <phillw> hosoka: it should be in update manager?  I've actually not asked the question yet of gilir how people can update from a beta to a beta
[21:28] <phillw> floating: a lot depends on RAM and secondarily processor power.
[21:28] <floating> sounds like it doesn't have much dependencies, if just 2... or does these 2 mean, that there will be lot to install
[21:28] <hosoka> Currently testing the 10.04 and now get the message in Update Manager to upgrade..... but not to Lubuntu 10.10 but rather Ubuntu 10.10  :-)
[21:28] <phillw> floating: if there are only two, and they are not huge, you 'should' be okay.
[21:29] <floating> would basic lubuntu user think that's too many dependencies
[21:29] <gilir> hosoka, Ubuntu 10.10 mean Lubuntu 10.10 in this case :)
[21:29] <phillw> gilir: do you have an answer to that one?
[21:29] <phillw> thanks, gilir I know I'm going to get asked it :)
[21:30] <hosoka> gilir: hello to u, I will try that now.
[21:30] <floating> guess I can install and try it out, thx
[21:31] <floating> mgonna install this 10.10 with unetbootin.. I guess the installation should go smoothly
[21:35] <|friTTe|> floating,  gonna do the same on my netbook in a bit, just moving some stuff to exthdd
[21:35] <|friTTe|> had Pmint ice but it felt so clogged
[21:41] <mark76> Anyone know what this alarm clock that appeared in my notification area when I rebooted after upgrading came from?
[21:43] <phillw> mark76: not guilty :)
[21:44] <|friTTe|> hehehe
[21:44] <|friTTe|> phillw,  hows your connection doing?
[21:44] <phillw> connection is okay, pidgin is having an issue with AIM
[21:44] <|friTTe|> ok
[21:45] <phillw> upload to server is at 55%, still two hours to go to complete.
[21:46] <phillw> 3G devices were not designed with uploading 500MB iso's to a server ;-)
[21:48] <|friTTe|> haha no
[21:50] <|friTTe|> should have told me to help you out
[21:51] <phillw> |friTTe|: it's all password protected and stuff like that, piglet knows the passswords but I do not :)
[21:51] <|friTTe|> a ok
[21:52] <phillw> Hey I had to call my laptop something "phillw@piglet:~$
[21:52] <phillw> "
[21:52] <|friTTe|> =)
[21:53] <phillw> I loved babe, the sheep herding pig, so that is where the name came from.
[21:53] <|friTTe|> haha yeah
[21:53] <|friTTe|> thats nice naming the computer
[21:53] <|friTTe|> i need to come up with something myself
[21:54] <mark76> I called mine Archimedes after the ancient British computer
[21:54] <|friTTe|> you know if theres any problem hooking up 3g dongles in 10.10?
[21:54] <|friTTe|> i use to grab that usbmodeswitcher
[21:57] <phillw> |friTTe|: there are two other methods at http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=92 if modeswitch does not work.
[21:58] <|friTTe|> thx alot
[21:59] <mark76> Hmmph. Sylpheed doesn't minimise to the tray :-(
[22:06] <mark76> There's a Lubuntu theme for openbox!
[22:06] <mark76> :-o
[22:08] <|friTTe|> )P
[22:08] <|friTTe|> =P
[22:08] <phillw> Right, I'm on on shift for another 4 hours, keep the room warm for me :)
[22:09] <mark76> Gah! What kind of idiot compresses an openbox theme as a 7z?
[22:10] <|friTTe|> phillw,  yeah im getting my hands dirty with the netbook
[22:10] <|friTTe|> warming it up in here in the meantime
[22:10] <|friTTe|> could you pass me a cold one? ;)
[22:12] <floating> shuold one install ubuntu-restricted-extras to lubuntu to get media codecs
[22:12] <floating> there's xubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu too but
[22:12] <|friTTe|> lubuntu got one too
[22:12] <floating> oh oki
[22:12] <|friTTe|> i grabbed both lubuntu and ubuntu,
[22:14] <mark76> Does Lubuntu have a default GTK theme now?
[22:14] <mark76> I'm guessing it's Bluebird
[22:18] <mark76> Nope. Wrong again
[22:26] <floating> i screwed up! I installed lubuntu10.10 to my notebook that had XP on it. it isntalled grub and it had xp entry there. Now when I booted up lubuntu, I went to edit the boot file to make XP default. I did it by editing 7etc/default/grub or such, after I edited the value i ran 'update-grub' as suggested. Now when I boot up, the file only contains the ubuntu entries :o
[22:26] <floating> and I didn't take backup of the file :(
[22:27] <|friTTe|> that sucks to hear
[22:57] <gos_> hi, i have a problem with the lubuntu panel, i need the parameters of console for open lubuntu panel
[22:58] <szczur> lxpanel --profile Lubuntu
[22:58] <szczur> this should work
[23:04] <|friTTe|> omg lubuntu worked almost out of the box on my netbook
[23:04] <|friTTe|> usb-modeswitcher was needed
[23:04] <|friTTe|> so fast
[23:04] <|friTTe|> =)
[23:10] <floating> yup me too. I just wasn't sharp enough and forgot that update-grub might just screw up :s well.. gotta do some recovery thing tomorrow and all seems good
[23:10] <|friTTe|> hehe yeah
[23:11] <|friTTe|> hope you sort it out
[23:11] <|friTTe|> im configuring my little Samsung beast now
[23:24] <gos_> Hi, lububuntu use and I have problems to activate compiz, is there a desktop magnifier Lubuntu and thereby not having to use compiz?
[23:51] <Kurdistan> lubuntu bang bang
[23:52] <Kurdistan> if somebody wants howto/workaround for does who install nvidia closed driver and the splash is ugly etc
[23:52] <Kurdistan> I can give them advice and links
[23:57] <Kurdistan> guys in lubuntu maverick stable I can not see lubuntu repo
[23:58] <Kurdistan> and should I install lubuntu restricted or ubuntu?