[19:05] <austen> Hey
[22:03] <Pendulum> paul_h1: you're the person who just posted asking about Unity and Orca, right?
[22:03] <Pendulum> bah
[22:03] <Pendulum> nevermind
[22:03] <Pendulum> I was crap at reading names ;-)
[22:04] <Pendulum> TheMuso: are you aware if any testing was done of running Orca on Unity?
[22:22] <paul_h1> Pendulum: sorry, did you ask me something? (wasn't paying much attention to computer...)
[22:25] <Pendulum> paul_h1: I did, but then realised the answer to my question was no :)
[22:29] <paul_h1> Pendulum: oh okay :) hows it going anyway?
[22:29] <Pendulum> okay. how're you?
[22:33] <paul_h1> Pendulum: okay :) job hunting at the mo. how's the ubuntu a11y effort going? I did a successful upgrade to Maverick with Orca the other day :)
[22:33] <TheMuso> Pendulum: Yes, it doesn't work.
[22:34] <TheMuso> not completely anyway. GNOME pieces, like network manager/the indicator menus/nautilus work, but the main unity shell doesn't at all.
[22:35] <paul_h1> is this the netbook UI?
[22:35] <TheMuso> yes
[22:37] <Pendulum> TheMuso: ah, okay. Someone asked about it on the list so I figured I'd ask around
[22:37] <Pendulum> paul_h1: well, we're gearing up to figure out what we want to talk about at UDS and what we want to do this cycle
[22:37] <TheMuso> I'll reply as well
[22:38] <Pendulum> I'm starting to think QA is more and more important between the whole Orca & Unity thing and a problem that came up on the list a couple weeks ago with the accessible installer
[22:38] <Pendulum> or, rather, that it's a role we should do more of
[22:39] <TheMuso> Agreed. Pitty under normal circumstances, I can't give enough time to that.
[22:39] <Pendulum> yeah
[22:40] <Pendulum> I wish I had a better ability to test things like Orca because I think they're where we have more issues (opposed to the software I use which has less integration issues and more issues directly with the software, although I've heard it's fixed in Maverick, anyway)
[22:41] <Pendulum> and breaking things is fun ;-)
[22:41] <paul_h1> I don't think that maverick can be installed with orca can it? I hit a wall once the webkit bit kicked in
[22:41] <Pendulum> paul_h1: I think that's right
[22:42] <paul_h1> that's why I tried a distro upgrade which luckily went well
[22:42] <Pendulum> yeah
[22:43] <Pendulum> I haven't upgraded my main machine, just my netbook (which has regular ubuntu)
[22:43] <TheMuso> The problem with the live installer for me, is that it doesn't yet support LVM, and I tend to always install to LVM setups on any of my machines.
[22:48] <paul_h1> my main work laptop is running maverick quite nicely. I'm hoping to install server edition on a machine soon
[22:57] <JanC> TheMuso: it might be possible to install on LVM volumes with the live CD installer if you create them first?  or does it really ignore existing LVM volumes??
[22:58] <TheMuso> JanC: The live installer doesn't have the patchwork at the backend to use LVM.
[22:58] <TheMuso> Its on the list of requested features, but not there yet.,
[23:53] <paul_h1> TheMuso: wondering how the process of migrating vinux to use the same build process as ubuntu discs is going?
[23:54] <TheMuso> paul_h1: Slowly, other interests outside of work/life have kept me away from it somewhat.
[23:57] <paul_h1> fair enough. is this a project of yours alone? last time I looked at the ninux website I saw no indication that this was an intention of vinux for the future. are the other vinux guys part of these plans?
[23:58] <TheMuso> paul_h1: They know about them, but are not involved yet. Its something I am doing on my own, due to the difficulty of the process and the systems involved. Once done, I hope to completely document it, so others can learn/maintain it.
[23:58] <TheMuso> I decided to take this route after seeing the horrible hacky way in which vinux CDs have been produced in the past.