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| voipster3 | Hi | 07:50 |
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| voipster3 | I am new here and have just downloaded the maverick for arm | 07:50 |
| voipster3 | I have made the image to the SD card and booted on the beagleboard C3 | 07:51 |
| voipster3 | but there is not display can anyone help? | 07:51 |
| voipster3 | the sd led lights are blinking so it is reading from the card and atm this computer I cannot connect it to a serial port | 07:52 |
| voipster3 | so i cannot actually see whats going on | 07:52 |
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| dhiry2k | hi all, i have installed ubuntu armel 101.10 xfce4 but it looks like red in color | 09:50 |
| dhiry2k | may be need any setting | 09:50 |
| dhiry2k | ? | 09:50 |
| persia | Um, from where/how did you install that? | 09:51 |
| persia | Also, please confirm that you're talking about 10.10, rather than having run into an accident related to the prior-state backup facility in the 2101 fall release. | 09:52 |
| dhiry2k | persia, yes i have installed 10.10 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ maverick/main | 09:55 |
| persia | So just `apt-get install xfce4` ? | 09:55 |
| dhiry2k | persia, yes | 09:55 |
| dhiry2k | persia, i have created rootfilesystem using rootstock | 09:56 |
| persia | Ah, yeah, that gets the raw, unfiltered, base configuration, which may not be ideally integrated. | 09:56 |
| dhiry2k | in which i have given option as xfce4 | 09:56 |
| dhiry2k | persia, so i need to do ? | 09:56 |
| persia | There's been no reported testing, but I'd strongly suggest installation of "xubuntu-desktop" to get an XFCE-based integrated desktop experience. | 09:56 |
| dhiry2k | persia, which is best light wdesktop environment | 09:57 |
| persia | That should pull all the right extra libraries, themes, settings packages, etc. | 09:57 |
| dhiry2k | lxde or xfce4 | 09:57 |
| persia | I disbelieve that "best" means anything in this context. | 09:57 |
| persia | Personally, I tend to use a GNOME-based environment (with a few bits removed). I know several people who swear by XFCE and Enlightenment, and there's lots of folk who seem to believe LXDE is even better. | 09:58 |
| dhiry2k | persia, if i install xuduntu-desktop then it actually installs many packages which i dont need | 09:58 |
| persia | dhiry2k, Try `apt-get --no-install-recommends install xubuntu-desktop` | 09:58 |
| dhiry2k | persia, if i have a debian source what will be the way to recompile this for arm | 09:59 |
| persia | But yeah, it probably installs more than you need: it's supposed to install a fully integrated environment (although I don't think any of the Xubuntu guys use armel). | 09:59 |
| dhiry2k | persia, for armel which desktop environment normally prefereed in ubuntu | 10:00 |
| persia | Trivial recompile: `apt-get --compile source ${PACKAGE}` with deb-src lines pointing at Debian. | 10:00 |
| voipster3 | hi | 10:00 |
| dhiry2k | package is locally available not at debian or ubuntu repo | 10:00 |
| persia | There are three tested images: Ubuntu Netbook 2D (GNOME/EFL), Kubuntu Desktop (Qt), and Kubuntu Mobile (Qt). | 10:00 |
| dhiry2k | i mean source is at local system | 10:00 |
| persia | Oh, for a local package, I tend to prefer to use pbuilder or sbuild. Some folk just dpkg-source -x the package and debuild -b it. | 10:01 |
| voipster3 | I have a beagleboard C3 | 10:01 |
| persia | Using pbuilder/sbuild is much cleaner, but requires some setup. | 10:01 |
| dhiry2k | but it may need to setup cross toolchain | 10:01 |
| persia | voipster3, Hey. Saw your message from earlier. how is the display connected? | 10:01 |
| voipster3 | HDMI | 10:02 |
| persia | dhiry2k, Why a cross toolchain? Just compile natively. All the packages in Ubuntu are compiled natively. | 10:02 |
| voipster3 | It seems that the omapfb is not starting | 10:02 |
| persia | Does even the text in the beginning when jasper does the resize not show? | 10:02 |
| dhiry2k | persia, but i need to install it in armel i.e arm board os | 10:02 |
| persia | dhiry2k, OK. So, build it on an ARM board. | 10:03 |
| dhiry2k | voipster3,dmesg can tell much regarding error of omapfb | 10:03 |
| dhiry2k | persia, you mean do chroot and build | 10:03 |
| persia | dhiry2k, Hard to use with no serial console and no display :) | 10:03 |
| persia | dhiry2k, pbuilder and sbuild use chroot, but you can also just build in an installed environment, if you aren't concerned about repeatibility. | 10:04 |
| persia | voipster3, You might try mounting the SD somewhere else, and looking at the logs. I suspect /var/log/Xorg.0.log would contain some hints. | 10:04 |
| dhiry2k | persia, is .net application works fine with mono in armel | 10:05 |
| dhiry2k | may be some games which is created using .net | 10:06 |
| persia | Mono is ported. There are some bugs. The Mono team always appreciates help. | 10:06 |
| voipster3 | dhiry2k I can't type anything in there it is stuck | 10:07 |
| dhiry2k | voipster3, do you have minicom setup? | 10:07 |
| voipster3 | not at this computer | 10:07 |
| voipster3 | From what I saw the other day it just booted but no display | 10:08 |
| dhiry2k | voipster3,what actually it shows on LCD | 10:08 |
| voipster3 | nothing | 10:08 |
| dhiry2k | white screen? | 10:08 |
| voipster3 | no | 10:08 |
| voipster3 | no signal | 10:08 |
| persia | voipster3, Turn it off, extract the card, mount it somewhere else, and examine the logs. With no display and no console, you'll have a very hard time getting useful information out of the booted system. | 10:08 |
| voipster3 | if i remove the sd card | 10:08 |
| voipster3 | the beagle dog show | 10:08 |
| voipster3 | ok i will look at the log | 10:09 |
| dhiry2k | voipster3, its better to debug using minicom | 10:09 |
| voipster3 | also tks for the tips greatly appreciate it | 10:09 |
| dhiry2k | probably uboot environment is wrong | 10:09 |
| persia | dhiry2k, We don't enable the serial console by default, which makes that tricky :) | 10:09 |
| voipster3 | yes i know just this computer dont have a serial port | 10:09 |
| voipster3 | the uboot environmoent for booting is ok | 10:10 |
| voipster3 | jsut that the display driver is not activating | 10:10 |
| voipster3 | the read write leds blink fast | 10:10 |
| dhiry2k | voipster3, printenv bootcmd | 10:10 |
| voipster3 | after a minute of blinking only read led is blinking | 10:10 |
| persia | voipster3, This is with a published image, or a custom image? | 10:10 |
| voipster3 | published | 10:10 |
| persia | Which image? | 10:11 |
| dhiry2k | ompafb.mode=? | 10:11 |
| voipster3 | didnt set any of those | 10:11 |
| persia | dhiry2k, jasper should be setting that automatically. | 10:11 |
| voipster3 | it just booted | 10:11 |
| dhiry2k | but sometime it may go wrong | 10:11 |
| dhiry2k | better add manually | 10:11 |
| voipster3 | from minicom? or is there a config i can edit? | 10:11 |
| persia | True, although I tend to examine logs, hating to do anything manually when there is automation available/ | 10:11 |
| dhiry2k | voipster3, its better to have minicom | 10:12 |
| dhiry2k | if not then try different value omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60 | 10:12 |
| persia | Much better to select a value based on one's actual connected display, rather than based on a guess. | 10:13 |
| dhiry2k | if you have HDMI port for LCD then omapfb.mode=dvi:hd720-24@60 | 10:13 |
| voipster3 | can i send you the log file? | 10:13 |
| dhiry2k | persia, correct | 10:13 |
| persia | I think I heard a rumour once that the HDMI port only provided DVI-D signals, although I may be mistaken. | 10:13 |
| dhiry2k | voipster3, yes | 10:13 |
| persia | !paste | voipster3 | 10:13 |
| ubot2 | voipster3: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 10:13 |
| persia | voipster3, Use a pastebin rather than sending, in case someone lurking has an idea. | 10:14 |
| voipster3 | ok you got to excuse me since i am not an avid irc user | 10:14 |
| dhiry2k | persia, while installing packages in chroot environment getting error as omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60 | 10:14 |
| dhiry2k | sorry | 10:14 |
| dhiry2k | error as Unsupported ioctl: cmd=0xc020660b | 10:14 |
| persia | Then use a chroot on an armel device, rather than a qemu-chroot :) | 10:15 |
| persia | Otherwise ignore them: most of them don't matter, although you may have issues with some. | 10:15 |
| voipster3 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/509963/ | 10:16 |
| voipster3 | this is for the X log | 10:16 |
| voipster3 | Jan 1 00:00:13 acorn kernel: [ 2.059570] omapfb omapfb: failed to allocate framebuffer | 10:18 |
| voipster3 | Jan 1 00:00:13 acorn kernel: [ 2.065063] omapfb omapfb: failed to allocate fbmem | 10:18 |
| voipster3 | Jan 1 00:00:13 acorn kernel: [ 2.070007] omapfb omapfb: failed to setup omapfb | 10:18 |
| voipster3 | Jan 1 00:00:13 acorn kernel: [ 2.074798] omapfb: probe of omapfb failed with error -12 | 10:18 |
| voipster3 | This is from the kern.log | 10:18 |
| voipster3 | dhiry2k need to see dmesg file too? | 10:20 |
| * persia suspects some missing "MEM" or "VMEM" or somesuch setting and hunts docs | 10:22 | |
| voipster3 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/509966/ | 10:22 |
| voipster3 | this is the dmesg file | 10:22 |
| persia | I think jasper didn't run correctly: you ought have a "VRAM=12M" argument set, which should prevent the "omapfb: failed to allocate fbmem" bit. | 10:23 |
| persia | I've never seen "omapfb.vram=1:4M,2:4M" passed previously. | 10:24 |
| voipster3 | so i need to manually type it at boot each time or is there a way to permanently change it? | 10:25 |
| persia | I think you'd permanently change it in uboot settings | 10:26 |
| voipster3 | so i need to do it from minicom? | 10:26 |
| persia | And I suspect the "omapfb.vram" parameter is hitting my attempt to prevent stomping on user-supplied values, and causing vmem=12M not to be set. | 10:26 |
| persia | No. | 10:26 |
| persia | You can change the settings in the uboot configuration on an SD, and boot using the uboot on SD. | 10:26 |
| voipster3 | ok | 10:27 |
| voipster3 | so i just directly edit the file? | 10:27 |
| persia | May as well try. Just make a backup first. You're unlikely to damage anything playing with kernel command line parameters. | 10:28 |
| voipster3 | atm i dont have minicom here can i just use a desktop to edit the file? | 10:29 |
| voipster3 | the answer is now :P | 10:30 |
| voipster3 | no | 10:30 |
| persia | Of course you can. it's just a text file. | 10:30 |
| voipster3 | umean the u-boot.bin file? | 10:31 |
| persia | Isn't there something like a boot.scr or similar? | 10:31 |
| voipster3 | yes | 10:31 |
| persia | I think that's it. | 10:31 |
| voipster3 | but it says its a binary file | 10:31 |
| voipster3 | ok i'll try from cli | 10:31 |
| persia | Hmm. You might want someone else to advise you then. | 10:31 |
| persia | I tend to just complain until someone makes a bootloader work, and then stick to userspace. | 10:32 |
| voipster3 | hehe understand | 10:32 |
| voipster3 | tks for the time though | 10:32 |
| voipster3 | the boot.scr has the setting of vram=12M | 10:34 |
| voipster3 | fatload mmc 0:1 0x81600000 uInitrd | 10:35 |
| voipster3 | setenv bootargs vram=12M omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60 root=/dev/mmcb$ | 10:35 |
| voipster3 | bootm 0x80000000 0x81600000 | 10:35 |
| persia | Dunno then. That's the bit on my C4 that makes it not have issues with memory for the framebuffer. | 10:35 |
| voipster3 | it seems the bootm address maybe wrong | 10:35 |
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| * persia grumbles about cannot-redistribute clauses, and retailers who remove all such software when selling devices, even though that makes them useless :( | 11:44 | |
| ogra_ac | dont buy such hw then :P | 11:45 |
| persia | But it cost half the price of the Dynabook AZ, and amitk might have a working kernel for it... | 11:46 |
| persia | (plus the Dynabook AZ has *even more* unredistributable software) | 11:46 |
| ogra_ac | the dynabook has a working kernel too :P | 11:47 |
| persia | 2.6.36? | 11:47 |
| persia | Anyway, it's not that hard to download the recovery image, and reinstall from the vendor (although I kinda wish the instructions didn't expect you had a working device to use to build the recovery image to recover the non-working device, but ...) | 11:48 |
| ogra_ac | no, 2.6.29 but sources are public | 11:51 |
| persia | I've public working Ubuntuised 2.6.29 sources, plus a known tree that is targeting 2.6.36 that *should* work. Mind you, I still end up with unredistributable firmware for the WiFi, but... | 11:55 |
| persia | Hrm. This might be going back to the shop tomorrow. Full reinstall from the vendor site, and still no working WiFi :( | 12:07 |
| ogra_ac | sad | 12:08 |
| ogra_ac | got a link with specs and pics ? | 12:09 |
| ogra_ac | oh ! | 12:09 |
| persia | To the PC-Z1? | 12:09 |
| persia | There's heaps of them. | 12:09 |
| * ogra_ac just found a flashlite that might run on the ac100 | 12:09 | |
| persia | Nifty. | 12:09 |
| ogra_ac | extracted from the netwalker apparently :) | 12:09 |
| persia | This is (theoretically) the same device I dropped in my sink in April, except this one doesn't work :( | 12:10 |
| ogra_ac | ah | 12:10 |
| persia | Strange. The Netwalker doesn't ship with Flash: it's a bonus for registering for use. Someone broke terms of service. | 12:10 |
| ogra_ac | http://www2.jkkmobile.com/FlashLite3.1_Firefox_plugin.tar.gz | 12:11 |
| persia | Be warned that it will be an ARMv5 binary. Ought work, but may not have the optimisations you'd prefer. | 12:11 |
| ogra_ac | http://carrypad.com/2010/10/02/coming-to-you-from-ubuntu-on-the-arm-based-ac100-its-working-well/ | 12:11 |
| ogra_ac | from the comments there | 12:11 |
| persia | Oh, yeah, that there site often seems to ignore redistribution provisions of licenses. handy in many ways. | 12:11 |
| ogra_ac | i havent tried it yet but got the tarball on disk | 12:11 |
| ogra_ac | all help is in japanese :P | 12:12 |
| ogra_ac | even the script comments in the install script are | 12:12 |
| persia | Of course. Why would anyone want anything less concise? | 12:12 |
| ogra_ac | haha | 12:12 |
| persia | I can recommend some books to learn how to read, if you like ... :p | 12:13 |
| ogra_ac | nah, looking at the code most stuff is easy to figure out | 12:14 |
| persia | See, Japanese is intuitive, like all good iconographic languages. | 12:15 |
| persia | Plus, you're already used to verb-at-the-end-of-the-sentence-placing grammer :p | 12:15 |
| armin76 | ogra_ac: can't you use gnash or swfdec? | 12:16 |
| ogra_ac | armin76, you might, havent tried it yet | 12:16 |
| * ogra_ac isnt after flash so much i just dont say no if i find it :) | 12:17 | |
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| persia | ogra_ac, So, for all my whining earlier, the solution turned out to be me discovering that Fn+1 turns on and off WiFi :) | 16:18 |
| ogra_ac | lol | 16:20 |
| ogra_ac | arent HW keys fun | 16:20 |
| persia | I guess. If nothing else I've verified the OS restore procedure, enabled support for my USB ethernet, and practiced reading (even learned some new grammar to understand a post on a gentoo forum having the same issue) | 16:22 |
| lag | ogra_ac: Are you still in Tx? | 16:29 |
| ogra_ac | lag, nope | 16:29 |
| ogra_ac | home again | 16:30 |
| lag | How did everything go? | 16:32 |
| persia | lag! You'd know. If I have a git tree, how do I get a kernel .deb? | 16:33 |
| lag | Compile and package it :) | 16:34 |
| persia | In that order? | 16:35 |
| persia | I was kinda hoping there was some wiki doc that let me add some base debian/ to the results of git clone... | 16:35 |
| lag | Which tree are you trying to complile? | 16:36 |
| lag | compile* | 16:36 |
| lag | And which arch? | 16:36 |
| persia | http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/amitk/linux-2.6.git for armel | 16:36 |
| lag | fakeroot debian/rules clean | 16:36 |
| lag | fakeroot debian/rules binary-omap | 16:36 |
| persia | There's no debian/ directory... | 16:37 |
| lag | Then you can use make-kpkg | 16:37 |
| persia | Is it safe to just copy a random kernel debian/ directory, and then fight with the ABI checker ? | 16:37 |
| persia | Heh. OK. I remember how to do that. I just thought there might be some Ubuntu way (and haven't built my own kernel since moving from sarge-in-process to warty) | 16:38 |
| lag | The Ubuntu way is to build our own kernels, which do have a debian directory :) | 16:39 |
| ogra_ac | lag, well, we have a release on time ... so it went well i'd say | 16:39 |
| ogra_ac | lag, we still have to do an SRU for fixing the sudio issue though | 16:39 |
| persia | lag, Doesn't support my hardware. I'd be happy to use your kernels, if you want to build for my HW. | 16:39 |
| lag | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev | 16:40 |
| ogra_ac | persia, the upstream kernel has a script for rolling debs | 16:41 |
| ogra_ac | make deb-pkg should be sufficient | 16:41 |
| * ogra_ac plans to use that for the ac100 kernel | 16:41 | |
| * persia has an inbuilt distrust of all upstream methods of making .debs, regardless of upstream, and with full irrationality enabled | 16:42 | |
| ogra_ac | yeah, it wont be great | 16:42 |
| ogra_ac | but give you a deb | 16:42 |
| ogra_ac | with the files in the right places at least | 16:42 |
| ogra_ac | i dont think it includes any maintainer scripts | 16:42 |
| persia | Indeed. | 16:43 |
| persia | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild looks *almost* like the right bit. | 16:43 |
| lag | Yep | 16:43 |
| lag | The one in our repos is broken though | 16:44 |
| lag | You need the latest version | 16:44 |
| lag | You can get it from the Debian repos | 16:44 |
| persia | What? | 16:44 |
| persia | Why didn't that get updated? | 16:44 |
| lag | *shrugs* | 16:45 |
| lag | Ask userspace | 16:45 |
| ogra_ac | because nobody encourages custom kernel builds ? | 16:45 |
| persia | Yeah, I know. Part of why I switched to Ubuntu was a blog comment about never compiling one's own kernels. | 16:46 |
| persia | (and now I'm at it again anyway) | 16:46 |
| ogra_ac | bad HW choice :) | 16:47 |
| armin76 | rofl | 16:47 |
| lag | I'm off for something to eat | 16:49 |
| lag | Enjoy | 16:49 |
| persia | ogra_ac, At least it ships with Ubuntu, unlike what you're currently using :p | 16:52 |
| * persia is careful to not so denigrate ogra or ogra_cmpc | 16:52 | |
| ogra_ac | heh | 16:52 |
| * ogra_ac just built an androidless kernel | 16:53 | |
| ogra_ac | will test that after dinner | 16:53 |
| * persia will finish building kernels in the morning, having a great desire to hide from the side-effects of having just edited wiki.ubuntu.com/ | 16:54 | |
| ogra_ac | heh | 16:54 |
| === JaMa|Away is now known as JaMa | ||
| marvin24_DT | anyone with a tegra harmony board here? | 21:11 |
| marvin24_DT | I'm just wondering if the u-boot code at git.chromium.org/u-boot.git actually boots | 21:14 |
| armin76 | marvin24_DT: i have, didn't work for me | 21:23 |
| armin76 | marvin24_DT: ojn is one of the ppl doing the work | 21:24 |
| marvin24_DT | armin76: when did you tried it? | 21:24 |
| armin76 | one/two weeks ago | 21:24 |
| marvin24_DT | the i2c and keyboard driver was added just a few (4-5) days ago | 21:26 |
| marvin24_DT | seems that seaboard was tested and worked | 21:26 |
| armin76 | yeah, saw that | 21:27 |
| armin76 | marvin24: also there's no doc about setting it up, so... | 21:41 |
| armin76 | marvin24_DT: i tested it right now, ojn told me passing the uboot binary as kernel should do it, but nothing shows up | 21:42 |
| marvin24_DT | I though it should be loaded as a bootloader | 21:44 |
| marvin24_DT | nvflash --bl | 21:44 |
| armin76 | you sure that wouldn't brick it? | 21:45 |
| marvin24_DT | the --bl command does not flash anything, it loads into the memory | 21:45 |
| marvin24_DT | like nvflash -w --bl uboot.bin --go | 21:45 |
| marvin24_DT | I do this on an other board every day | 21:46 |
| armin76 | downloading bootloader -- load address: 0x108000 entry point: 0x108000 | 21:48 |
| armin76 | sending file: /tmp/ye.bin | 21:48 |
| armin76 | - 791694/791694 bytes sent | 21:48 |
| armin76 | /tmp/ye.bin sent successfully | 21:48 |
| armin76 | waiting for bootloader to initialize | 21:48 |
| armin76 | it stays there | 21:48 |
| marvin24_DT | nothing on the console? | 21:49 |
| armin76 | nope | 21:49 |
| marvin24_DT | mmh | 21:49 |
| marvin24_DT | ok, thanks! | 21:49 |
| armin76 | yw | 21:50 |
| armin76 | marvin24_DT: what is a seaboard? | 21:52 |
| marvin24_DT | armin76: seems that there are many (>5) development boards made by nvidia | 22:02 |
| marvin24_DT | there is no official list of it I know of | 22:02 |
| armin76 | ah | 22:02 |
| armin76 | k, thanks | 22:03 |
| marvin24_DT | looks like harmony is one of the first production boards | 22:03 |
| marvin24_DT | and seaboard is newer | 22:03 |
| armin76 | yep | 22:04 |
| armin76 | there's also whistle | 22:05 |
| marvin24_DT | and e116x (from u-boot tree) | 22:05 |
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