=== asac_ is now known as asac === JaMa|Zzz is now known as JaMa [07:50] Hi [07:50] I am new here and have just downloaded the maverick for arm [07:51] I have made the image to the SD card and booted on the beagleboard C3 [07:51] but there is not display can anyone help? [07:52] the sd led lights are blinking so it is reading from the card and atm this computer I cannot connect it to a serial port [07:52] so i cannot actually see whats going on === JaMa is now known as JaMa|Away === sumitsemwal is now known as sumits [09:50] hi all, i have installed ubuntu armel 101.10 xfce4 but it looks like red in color [09:50] may be need any setting [09:50] ? [09:51] Um, from where/how did you install that? [09:52] Also, please confirm that you're talking about 10.10, rather than having run into an accident related to the prior-state backup facility in the 2101 fall release. [09:55] persia, yes i have installed 10.10 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ maverick/main [09:55] So just `apt-get install xfce4` ? [09:55] persia, yes [09:56] persia, i have created rootfilesystem using rootstock [09:56] Ah, yeah, that gets the raw, unfiltered, base configuration, which may not be ideally integrated. [09:56] in which i have given option as xfce4 [09:56] persia, so i need to do ? [09:56] There's been no reported testing, but I'd strongly suggest installation of "xubuntu-desktop" to get an XFCE-based integrated desktop experience. [09:57] persia, which is best light wdesktop environment [09:57] That should pull all the right extra libraries, themes, settings packages, etc. [09:57] lxde or xfce4 [09:57] I disbelieve that "best" means anything in this context. [09:58] Personally, I tend to use a GNOME-based environment (with a few bits removed). I know several people who swear by XFCE and Enlightenment, and there's lots of folk who seem to believe LXDE is even better. [09:58] persia, if i install xuduntu-desktop then it actually installs many packages which i dont need [09:58] dhiry2k, Try `apt-get --no-install-recommends install xubuntu-desktop` [09:59] persia, if i have a debian source what will be the way to recompile this for arm [09:59] But yeah, it probably installs more than you need: it's supposed to install a fully integrated environment (although I don't think any of the Xubuntu guys use armel). [10:00] persia, for armel which desktop environment normally prefereed in ubuntu [10:00] Trivial recompile: `apt-get --compile source ${PACKAGE}` with deb-src lines pointing at Debian. [10:00] hi [10:00] package is locally available not at debian or ubuntu repo [10:00] There are three tested images: Ubuntu Netbook 2D (GNOME/EFL), Kubuntu Desktop (Qt), and Kubuntu Mobile (Qt). [10:00] i mean source is at local system [10:01] Oh, for a local package, I tend to prefer to use pbuilder or sbuild. Some folk just dpkg-source -x the package and debuild -b it. [10:01] I have a beagleboard C3 [10:01] Using pbuilder/sbuild is much cleaner, but requires some setup. [10:01] but it may need to setup cross toolchain [10:01] voipster3, Hey. Saw your message from earlier. how is the display connected? [10:02] HDMI [10:02] dhiry2k, Why a cross toolchain? Just compile natively. All the packages in Ubuntu are compiled natively. [10:02] It seems that the omapfb is not starting [10:02] Does even the text in the beginning when jasper does the resize not show? [10:02] persia, but i need to install it in armel i.e arm board os [10:03] dhiry2k, OK. So, build it on an ARM board. [10:03] voipster3,dmesg can tell much regarding error of omapfb [10:03] persia, you mean do chroot and build [10:03] dhiry2k, Hard to use with no serial console and no display :) [10:04] dhiry2k, pbuilder and sbuild use chroot, but you can also just build in an installed environment, if you aren't concerned about repeatibility. [10:04] voipster3, You might try mounting the SD somewhere else, and looking at the logs. I suspect /var/log/Xorg.0.log would contain some hints. [10:05] persia, is .net application works fine with mono in armel [10:06] may be some games which is created using .net [10:06] Mono is ported. There are some bugs. The Mono team always appreciates help. [10:07] dhiry2k I can't type anything in there it is stuck [10:07] voipster3, do you have minicom setup? [10:07] not at this computer [10:08] From what I saw the other day it just booted but no display [10:08] voipster3,what actually it shows on LCD [10:08] nothing [10:08] white screen? [10:08] no [10:08] no signal [10:08] voipster3, Turn it off, extract the card, mount it somewhere else, and examine the logs. With no display and no console, you'll have a very hard time getting useful information out of the booted system. [10:08] if i remove the sd card [10:08] the beagle dog show [10:09] ok i will look at the log [10:09] voipster3, its better to debug using minicom [10:09] also tks for the tips greatly appreciate it [10:09] probably uboot environment is wrong [10:09] dhiry2k, We don't enable the serial console by default, which makes that tricky :) [10:09] yes i know just this computer dont have a serial port [10:10] the uboot environmoent for booting is ok [10:10] jsut that the display driver is not activating [10:10] the read write leds blink fast [10:10] voipster3, printenv bootcmd [10:10] after a minute of blinking only read led is blinking [10:10] voipster3, This is with a published image, or a custom image? [10:10] published [10:11] Which image? [10:11] ompafb.mode=? [10:11] didnt set any of those [10:11] dhiry2k, jasper should be setting that automatically. [10:11] it just booted [10:11] but sometime it may go wrong [10:11] better add manually [10:11] from minicom? or is there a config i can edit? [10:11] True, although I tend to examine logs, hating to do anything manually when there is automation available/ [10:12] voipster3, its better to have minicom [10:12] if not then try different value omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60 [10:13] Much better to select a value based on one's actual connected display, rather than based on a guess. [10:13] if you have HDMI port for LCD then omapfb.mode=dvi:hd720-24@60 [10:13] can i send you the log file? [10:13] persia, correct [10:13] I think I heard a rumour once that the HDMI port only provided DVI-D signals, although I may be mistaken. [10:13] voipster3, yes [10:13] !paste | voipster3 [10:13] voipster3: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [10:14] voipster3, Use a pastebin rather than sending, in case someone lurking has an idea. [10:14] ok you got to excuse me since i am not an avid irc user [10:14] persia, while installing packages in chroot environment getting error as omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60 [10:14] sorry [10:14] error as Unsupported ioctl: cmd=0xc020660b [10:15] Then use a chroot on an armel device, rather than a qemu-chroot :) [10:15] Otherwise ignore them: most of them don't matter, although you may have issues with some. [10:16] http://paste.ubuntu.com/509963/ [10:16] this is for the X log [10:18] Jan 1 00:00:13 acorn kernel: [ 2.059570] omapfb omapfb: failed to allocate framebuffer [10:18] Jan 1 00:00:13 acorn kernel: [ 2.065063] omapfb omapfb: failed to allocate fbmem [10:18] Jan 1 00:00:13 acorn kernel: [ 2.070007] omapfb omapfb: failed to setup omapfb [10:18] Jan 1 00:00:13 acorn kernel: [ 2.074798] omapfb: probe of omapfb failed with error -12 [10:18] This is from the kern.log [10:20] dhiry2k need to see dmesg file too? [10:22] * persia suspects some missing "MEM" or "VMEM" or somesuch setting and hunts docs [10:22] http://paste.ubuntu.com/509966/ [10:22] this is the dmesg file [10:23] I think jasper didn't run correctly: you ought have a "VRAM=12M" argument set, which should prevent the "omapfb: failed to allocate fbmem" bit. [10:24] I've never seen "omapfb.vram=1:4M,2:4M" passed previously. [10:25] so i need to manually type it at boot each time or is there a way to permanently change it? [10:26] I think you'd permanently change it in uboot settings [10:26] so i need to do it from minicom? [10:26] And I suspect the "omapfb.vram" parameter is hitting my attempt to prevent stomping on user-supplied values, and causing vmem=12M not to be set. [10:26] No. [10:26] You can change the settings in the uboot configuration on an SD, and boot using the uboot on SD. [10:27] ok [10:27] so i just directly edit the file? [10:28] May as well try. Just make a backup first. You're unlikely to damage anything playing with kernel command line parameters. [10:29] atm i dont have minicom here can i just use a desktop to edit the file? [10:30] the answer is now :P [10:30] no [10:30] Of course you can. it's just a text file. [10:31] umean the u-boot.bin file? [10:31] Isn't there something like a boot.scr or similar? [10:31] yes [10:31] I think that's it. [10:31] but it says its a binary file [10:31] ok i'll try from cli [10:31] Hmm. You might want someone else to advise you then. [10:32] I tend to just complain until someone makes a bootloader work, and then stick to userspace. [10:32] hehe understand [10:32] tks for the time though [10:34] the boot.scr has the setting of vram=12M [10:35] fatload mmc 0:1 0x81600000 uInitrd [10:35] setenv bootargs vram=12M omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60 root=/dev/mmcb$ [10:35] bootm 0x80000000 0x81600000 [10:35] Dunno then. That's the bit on my C4 that makes it not have issues with memory for the framebuffer. [10:35] it seems the bootm address maybe wrong === jo-erlend is now known as Zaphod_Beeblebro === Zaphod_Beeblebro is now known as ZaphodBeeblebrox === ZaphodBeeblebrox is now known as jo-erlend [11:44] * persia grumbles about cannot-redistribute clauses, and retailers who remove all such software when selling devices, even though that makes them useless :( [11:45] dont buy such hw then :P [11:46] But it cost half the price of the Dynabook AZ, and amitk might have a working kernel for it... [11:46] (plus the Dynabook AZ has *even more* unredistributable software) [11:47] the dynabook has a working kernel too :P [11:47] 2.6.36? [11:48] Anyway, it's not that hard to download the recovery image, and reinstall from the vendor (although I kinda wish the instructions didn't expect you had a working device to use to build the recovery image to recover the non-working device, but ...) [11:51] no, 2.6.29 but sources are public [11:55] I've public working Ubuntuised 2.6.29 sources, plus a known tree that is targeting 2.6.36 that *should* work. Mind you, I still end up with unredistributable firmware for the WiFi, but... [12:07] Hrm. This might be going back to the shop tomorrow. Full reinstall from the vendor site, and still no working WiFi :( [12:08] sad [12:09] got a link with specs and pics ? [12:09] oh ! [12:09] To the PC-Z1? [12:09] There's heaps of them. [12:09] * ogra_ac just found a flashlite that might run on the ac100 [12:09] Nifty. [12:09] extracted from the netwalker apparently :) [12:10] This is (theoretically) the same device I dropped in my sink in April, except this one doesn't work :( [12:10] ah [12:10] Strange. The Netwalker doesn't ship with Flash: it's a bonus for registering for use. Someone broke terms of service. [12:11] http://www2.jkkmobile.com/FlashLite3.1_Firefox_plugin.tar.gz [12:11] Be warned that it will be an ARMv5 binary. Ought work, but may not have the optimisations you'd prefer. [12:11] http://carrypad.com/2010/10/02/coming-to-you-from-ubuntu-on-the-arm-based-ac100-its-working-well/ [12:11] from the comments there [12:11] Oh, yeah, that there site often seems to ignore redistribution provisions of licenses. handy in many ways. [12:11] i havent tried it yet but got the tarball on disk [12:12] all help is in japanese :P [12:12] even the script comments in the install script are [12:12] Of course. Why would anyone want anything less concise? [12:12] haha [12:13] I can recommend some books to learn how to read, if you like ... :p [12:14] nah, looking at the code most stuff is easy to figure out [12:15] See, Japanese is intuitive, like all good iconographic languages. [12:15] Plus, you're already used to verb-at-the-end-of-the-sentence-placing grammer :p [12:16] ogra_ac: can't you use gnash or swfdec? [12:16] armin76, you might, havent tried it yet [12:17] * ogra_ac isnt after flash so much i just dont say no if i find it :) === robbiew is now known as robbiew_ [16:18] ogra_ac, So, for all my whining earlier, the solution turned out to be me discovering that Fn+1 turns on and off WiFi :) [16:20] lol [16:20] arent HW keys fun [16:22] I guess. If nothing else I've verified the OS restore procedure, enabled support for my USB ethernet, and practiced reading (even learned some new grammar to understand a post on a gentoo forum having the same issue) [16:29] ogra_ac: Are you still in Tx? [16:29] lag, nope [16:30] home again [16:32] How did everything go? [16:33] lag! You'd know. If I have a git tree, how do I get a kernel .deb? [16:34] Compile and package it :) [16:35] In that order? [16:35] I was kinda hoping there was some wiki doc that let me add some base debian/ to the results of git clone... [16:36] Which tree are you trying to complile? [16:36] compile* [16:36] And which arch? [16:36] http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/amitk/linux-2.6.git for armel [16:36] fakeroot debian/rules clean [16:36] fakeroot debian/rules binary-omap [16:37] There's no debian/ directory... [16:37] Then you can use make-kpkg [16:37] Is it safe to just copy a random kernel debian/ directory, and then fight with the ABI checker ? [16:38] Heh. OK. I remember how to do that. I just thought there might be some Ubuntu way (and haven't built my own kernel since moving from sarge-in-process to warty) [16:39] The Ubuntu way is to build our own kernels, which do have a debian directory :) [16:39] lag, well, we have a release on time ... so it went well i'd say [16:39] lag, we still have to do an SRU for fixing the sudio issue though [16:39] lag, Doesn't support my hardware. I'd be happy to use your kernels, if you want to build for my HW. [16:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev [16:41] persia, the upstream kernel has a script for rolling debs [16:41] make deb-pkg should be sufficient [16:41] * ogra_ac plans to use that for the ac100 kernel [16:42] * persia has an inbuilt distrust of all upstream methods of making .debs, regardless of upstream, and with full irrationality enabled [16:42] yeah, it wont be great [16:42] but give you a deb [16:42] with the files in the right places at least [16:42] i dont think it includes any maintainer scripts [16:43] Indeed. [16:43] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild looks *almost* like the right bit. [16:43] Yep [16:44] The one in our repos is broken though [16:44] You need the latest version [16:44] You can get it from the Debian repos [16:44] What? [16:44] Why didn't that get updated? [16:45] *shrugs* [16:45] Ask userspace [16:45] because nobody encourages custom kernel builds ? [16:46] Yeah, I know. Part of why I switched to Ubuntu was a blog comment about never compiling one's own kernels. [16:46] (and now I'm at it again anyway) [16:47] bad HW choice :) [16:47] rofl [16:49] I'm off for something to eat [16:49] Enjoy [16:52] ogra_ac, At least it ships with Ubuntu, unlike what you're currently using :p [16:52] * persia is careful to not so denigrate ogra or ogra_cmpc [16:52] heh [16:53] * ogra_ac just built an androidless kernel [16:53] will test that after dinner [16:54] * persia will finish building kernels in the morning, having a great desire to hide from the side-effects of having just edited wiki.ubuntu.com/ [16:54] heh === JaMa|Away is now known as JaMa [21:11] anyone with a tegra harmony board here? [21:14] I'm just wondering if the u-boot code at git.chromium.org/u-boot.git actually boots [21:23] marvin24_DT: i have, didn't work for me [21:24] marvin24_DT: ojn is one of the ppl doing the work [21:24] armin76: when did you tried it? [21:24] one/two weeks ago [21:26] the i2c and keyboard driver was added just a few (4-5) days ago [21:26] seems that seaboard was tested and worked [21:27] yeah, saw that [21:41] marvin24: also there's no doc about setting it up, so... [21:42] marvin24_DT: i tested it right now, ojn told me passing the uboot binary as kernel should do it, but nothing shows up [21:44] I though it should be loaded as a bootloader [21:44] nvflash --bl [21:45] you sure that wouldn't brick it? [21:45] the --bl command does not flash anything, it loads into the memory [21:45] like nvflash -w --bl uboot.bin --go [21:46] I do this on an other board every day [21:48] downloading bootloader -- load address: 0x108000 entry point: 0x108000 [21:48] sending file: /tmp/ye.bin [21:48] - 791694/791694 bytes sent [21:48] /tmp/ye.bin sent successfully [21:48] waiting for bootloader to initialize [21:48] it stays there [21:49] nothing on the console? [21:49] nope [21:49] mmh [21:49] ok, thanks! [21:50] yw [21:52] marvin24_DT: what is a seaboard? [22:02] armin76: seems that there are many (>5) development boards made by nvidia [22:02] there is no official list of it I know of [22:02] ah [22:03] k, thanks [22:03] looks like harmony is one of the first production boards [22:03] and seaboard is newer [22:04] yep [22:05] there's also whistle [22:05] and e116x (from u-boot tree) === JaMa is now known as JaMa|Zzzz