[02:26] <kmckinney> Quick question for anyone out there...
[02:26] <kmckinney> I am attempting to compile a package that is looking for an older version of a dependency.
[02:26] <kmckinney> The package is looking for “hal 0.5.10”; however, I have “hal 0.5.14” installed on my system.
[02:27] <kmckinney> Can someone provide me with some pointers on how to upgrade a dependency within a package?
[02:28] <Riddell> what's in the Build-Depends line in debian/control ?
[02:30] <kmckinney> Riddell: checking now
[02:32] <kmckinney> actually I am not sure where this information is located.. I did a grep on the source code and I do not see it
[02:32] <kmckinney> Riddell: where should I look for this ?
[02:33] <Riddell> kmckinney: are you actually building a package or building an application's source code you've downloaded?
[02:34] <kmckinney> I am building the source code for package gnome-device-manager
[02:34] <kmckinney> I eventually want to upgrade this package from hal to udev and fix several bugs that have been reported
[02:37] <kmckinney> also - I am still a newbie to Ubuntu development..
[02:44] <Riddell> well I'm not a gnome user but I thought gnome-device-manager was obsolete
[02:46] <kmckinney> Riddell: it is obsolete but I am trying to bring it back to life.
[02:46] <kmckinney> If I can successfully upgrade the package to use udev instead of hal this will give it life again
[02:47] <Riddell> #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu
[02:47] <kmckinney> Riddell: thanks
[02:47] <jcastro> kmckinney: ping someone in upstream GNOME
[02:48] <jcastro> I don't recall if that app is going to still be around or whatever
[02:48] <jcastro> but porting it to udev should happen upstream anyway
[02:48] <kmckinney> jcastro: who should I chat with about this?
[02:48] <jcastro> check out the gnome desktop devel list.
[02:49] <kmckinney> ok
[02:49] <jcastro> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
[02:49] <jcastro> that should get you started
[02:49] <kmckinney> ok
[02:49] <kmckinney> thanks
[02:49] <jcastro> cheers
[08:43] <pitti> kenvandine: please reupload empathy with a bug reference
[09:45] <sabdfl> morning folks
[09:59] <fagan> morning sabdfl
[10:01] <sabdfl> morning ivanka, fagan
[10:02] <ivanka> morning sabdfl
[10:17] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:20] <fagan> morning czajkowski
[10:35] <rickspencer3> pitti, mvo, you guys around hanging around at all?
[10:44] <pitti> rickspencer3: yes, I am
[10:44] <pitti> at least until 10:10 UTC :)
[10:45] <rickspencer3> pitti, what happens then?
[10:45] <pitti> rickspencer3: well, the 10.10 announcement, I hope? :-)
[10:45]  * rickspencer3 sips puts on sun glasses
[11:12] <rickspencer3> pitti, mvo well?
[11:13] <pitti> yippieee!
[11:13] <mvo> ROCK
[11:13] <pitti> spot landing!
[11:13] <pitti> #u-r-p is just crazy
[11:13] <pitti> fun to watch every time again
[11:13]  * mvo takes a fine cup of tea to celebrate
[11:14] <fagan> yay
[11:24] <czajkowski> robbiew: nice time stamp
[11:34] <rickspencer3> ok guys, time to start working on Natty!
[11:34] <rickspencer3> ;)
[11:34]  * rickspencer3 whip cracking noises
[11:34] <pitti> rickspencer3: can't, not open yet :)
[11:34]  * pitti waves and wishes everyone a nice Sunday
[11:34] <rickspencer3> pitti, check again
[11:34] <rickspencer3> :)
[11:34] <rickspencer3> bye pitti!
[11:34] <pitti> time for sun and hike!
[11:35] <pitti> rickspencer3: ah, LP bug; it's not on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu, but queues do exist apparently
[11:35] <pitti> cu tomorrow
[11:35] <rickspencer3> elmo just opened Natty :)
[11:35] <rickspencer3> bye pitti
[11:35] <pitti> rickspencer3: have a save travel home
[11:36] <rickspencer3> I'll see you Tuesday, traveling tomorrow
[11:36] <czajkowski> 61 release parties taking place from today onwards
[11:36] <aquarius> good work, guys.
[11:37] <rickspencer3> nice
[11:37] <rickspencer3> aquarius, you too!
[11:55] <nigelb> pitti: did you get the torrent fixed?
[11:57] <sense> aquarius: The new version of python-vte that was uploaded to -proposed today fixes the $TERM not set issue.
[12:01] <aquarius> sense, yay!
[12:02] <sense> indeed
[12:02] <aquarius> am way sick of typing export TERM=xterm into guake windows :)
[12:03] <sense> So was I. Thanks to Mathieu Trudel not anymore!
[12:03] <aquarius> so it'll be srued?
[12:03] <nigelb> -proposed means it was srued right?
[12:04] <sense> aquarius: I'm not familiar with the SRU-process, all I know is that it is in maverick-proposed already.
[12:04] <aquarius> sweet. that'll do me :)
[12:04] <aquarius> worst comes to worst I can alwys just yank the deb :)
[12:05] <sense> yeah
[12:10] <aquarius> sense, am not seeing a new python-vte in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-proposed/
[12:11] <sense>  *** 1:0.26.0-0ubuntu2 0
[12:11] <sense>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-proposed/main amd64 Packages
[12:11] <sense> That's what I've got here.
[12:12] <aquarius> oh, it's in main. d'oh :)
[12:12] <sense> Yes it is!
[12:13] <aquarius> installing :)
[12:14] <aquarius> hrm, guake still complaining about TERM not being set :(
[12:15] <sense> restarted?
[12:16] <aquarius> ya, killed guake and restarted it
[12:16] <aquarius> that ought to be enough
[12:16] <sense> yeah
[12:16] <sense> That is strange.
[12:16] <aquarius> although I only installed the new python-vte and not a new vte (because it doesn't seem to depend on a newer vte, so I assume it doesn't need it)
[12:17] <sense> aquarius: I think it does. The Python bindings work by calling the functions in the C library.
[12:17] <sense> So you need the new library as well.
[12:17] <aquarius> ah
[12:17] <aquarius> then it probably ought to depend on the newer version :)
[12:18] <sense> Well, the Pyhton bindings work without the new C library, the bug just isn't fixed in that case.
[12:18] <aquarius> fair
[12:18] <aquarius> installing new libvte
[12:19] <aquarius> yay! fixed!
[12:19] <aquarius> yay!
[12:19]  * aquarius does a little dance
[12:21] <sense> Great!
[12:24] <aquarius> good man. I never would have thought to check -proposed :)
[12:25] <sense> :)
[12:33] <aquarius> hrm. libqt4-multimedia isn't in maverick. Who would know about that, I wonder?
[13:55] <Riddell> aquarius: probably not anyone on a gtk channel :)
[13:55] <Riddell> aquarius: upstream replaced it with libqtmultimediakit1
[13:55] <Riddell> although anyone who cares will recommend still using phonon
[13:58] <kenvandine> pitti, uploaded
[14:22] <aquarius> Riddell, aha, cool, I'm glad you're around :) The reason I ask is that I have a lucid third-party package that depends on libqt-multimedia, which obviously won't install on mav since libqt-multimedia isn't there, and I wondered what I'd do to fix it :)
[14:23] <Riddell> aquarius: recompile it to use qtmultimediakit I suppose, the API is much the same
[14:24] <aquarius> Riddell, k, cheers. I have nudged the upstream people to do a 10.10 package (they have lucid in their ppa, but no mav ppa)
[14:24] <Riddell> I didn't know there were any actual qtmultimedia uses out there, it's a badly written and pointless module
[15:47] <pitti> nigelb: no, seems it's blocked on my end (ISP)
[16:03] <bcurtiswx> Great Work for 10.10.10 everyone :)
[16:04] <nigelb> pitti: hrm, it didn't work for me for 10 mins
[16:04] <nigelb> worked later
[23:00] <TheMuso> Hey robert_ancell, welcome back.
[23:01] <robert_ancell> TheMuso, hey, good to be back!
[23:11] <TheMuso> ...except for the email backlog.