[02:40] <ourtv_> what's the deal with the windows?  firefox doesn't have the max/min buttons and boxee has them  that some sort of bug?
[17:58] <umay> 10.10 rc - i386 Build - Desktop Disk Torrent - fails to download with Transmission - Error: Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker.
[17:58] <umay> any one half alternate torrent link?
[19:53] <Seeker`> I'm trying to run videos from a storage group using mplayer, is that possible at the moment? I'm using 0.24
[20:01] <tgm4883> Seeker`, no
[20:01] <tgm4883> Seeker`, external players aren't supported with storage groups
[20:01] <tgm4883> \
[20:16] <anon_bot> Seems like this happens everytime I attempt it, but I just added the auto-builds package and enabled .23.1 so I could use the latest build of mythtv for windows.  I've had to install fresh copies of mythbuntu from disc the last couple times because of this.  But basically after I enable the auto-builds packages, do a reload, and update (specifically only the mythtv related packages this time), I reboot my box, and it starts running
[20:18] <Seeker`> tgm4883: that sucks. Only info I can really find on it says "It doesn't work in 0.22" and "It will be fixed in 0.23"
[20:19] <Seeker`> Now I can't watch videos :/
[20:19] <tgm4883> Seeker`, you could not use storage groups?
[20:20] <tgm4883> anon_bot, what starts running?
[20:20] <tgm4883> i'm confused
[20:20] <Seeker`> tgm4883: is there a way of converting back from using storage groups to not?
[20:20] <anon_bot> starts running?  Xorg Log is claiming it can't start my graphics adapter.
[20:21] <anon_bot> I meant, X starts in low graphics mode, and wants me to troubleshoot the issue.  I assume it's falling back to vesa or something, but then I get a user login prompt
[20:22] <tgm4883> Seeker`, you just remove the videos on in mythtv-setup
[20:22] <tgm4883> anon_bot, there is nothing in auto-builds repo that would cause that
[20:22] <tgm4883> you are likely upgrading from other repos at the same time
[20:22] <anon_bot> I specifically went in this time, and ONLY checked off mythtv components
[20:23] <anon_bot> it must just be these shitty asus board I should of never bought  - M3N-HD
[20:23] <tgm4883> hmm
[20:23] <anon_bot> It has this onboard nvidia nforce 750a chipset
[20:24] <anon_bot> which is supposed to be somethnig like a 8200/8300
[20:24] <anon_bot> has caused me nothing but pain :)
[20:24] <tgm4883> anon_bot, what distro release?
[20:24] <anon_bot> mythbuntu 10.04
[20:24] <anon_bot> looking at the kern log now
[20:25] <anon_bot> Seeing NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed errors
[20:26] <anon_bot> says to use vmalloc=(size) to increase size.
[20:34] <Seeker`> tgm4883: so looking up an item that is in a storage group returns a mythtv://group@host/path/to/file, does the internal player resolve this to an actual filesystem name before it is able to start playing the file?
[20:34] <tgm4883> no
[20:35] <tgm4883> you have to get rid of the storage group and mount the drive over NFS or the like
[20:36] <Seeker`> tgm4883: how does the internal player know where to get the info from if it never sees the actual location of the file, only the mythtv:// url?
[20:36] <Seeker`> there must be a conversion between "somewhere in this storage group" and "this physical location on the disk" at some point?
[20:37] <tgm4883> no there never is, which is why external players can't play from storage groups
[20:37] <tgm4883> Seeker`, it's very similar to this
[20:37] <tgm4883> !iso
[20:37] <Zinn> Storage Groups are a streaming method of transmitting material to a frontend, meaning they don't provide block-level access to the file in question. An ISO is a disk image, and requires block-level access. Upstream has a plan to simulate a block device across the network using NBD for 0.24. Until then you can use the following workaround: http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/7
[20:38] <tgm4883> only you won't ever be able to use storage groups with external players
[20:38] <Seeker`> :/
[20:38] <tgm4883> upstream has said they aren't going to do that
[20:38] <tgm4883> so unless that changes
[20:39] <Seeker`> that seems like a hell of a regression
[20:39] <Zinn> Seeker`: Please watch your language.
[20:40] <tgm4883> Seeker`, it's not a regression at all
[20:43] <Seeker`> tgm4883: really? VIDEO_TS playback being broken in the current version for, what, over a year now? And removing the ability to use external players? not a regression?
[20:44] <tgm4883> Seeker`, I don't think you understand, let me try to explain
[20:45] <tgm4883> you have never  been able to use storage groups and external players (or storage groups and VIDEO_TS or ISO)
[20:45] <tgm4883> you have been able to use it with local mythvideo settings
[20:45] <tgm4883> You still can do it with local mythvideo settings
[20:46] <tgm4883> you just have to disable mythvideo storage groups (or rather, enable a secondardy local mythvideo setting)
[20:46] <tgm4883> so no, it isn't a regression. A regression would be something that has worked before that doesn't work now
[20:46] <tgm4883> which this isn't the case
[20:46] <tgm4883> what worked before still works now
[20:47] <tgm4883> the NEW feature of storage groups has never supported external players
[20:58] <Seeker`> bah, using the old version and it still doesn't work. Only seem to report the directory name containing the VIDEO_TS folder to mplayer, which basically then says "what am I meant to do with that"
[21:01] <tgm4883> Seeker`, are you using the same method in that link i posted?
[21:04] <Seeker`> tgm4883: I have a direcotry (/media/multim/videos) which contains two folders (DVD and TVSeries), the DVD directory contains sub-directories $FILM_NAME/VIDEO_TS. The Videos directory in settings is set to /media/multim/videos
[21:04] <anon_bot> full power cycle allowed my nvidia onboard to start properly.  woot.
[21:05] <tgm4883> Seeker`, do you still have a storage group set up for that directory?
[21:05] <Seeker`> tgm4883: no, in the mythtv-setup there are only 2 storage groups set up, recordings and posters
[21:06] <anon_bot> I wonder if I should add pci=nomsi to my grub like I had to a few distro releases back.
[21:08] <tgm4883> Seeker`, and you mounted the share locally
[21:09] <Seeker`> tgm4883: it isn't a network share, its on a drive in the computer
[21:10] <tgm4883> ah ok
[21:10] <anon_bot> Is menu.lst no longer in /boot/grub?
[21:12] <tgm4883> Seeker`, what does the frontend say in the logs when you try to play it?
[21:13] <Seeker`> I try to use mplayer to play the file, and it successfully calls mplayer, but the path passed to mplayer to play is (for example) /media/multim/videos/DVD/28_days_later
[21:13] <anon_bot> new version of grub? hmpt
[21:14] <tgm4883> anon_bot, grub2
[21:14] <tgm4883> Seeker`, that is the correct path?
[21:14] <anon_bot> tgm4883: where can I add "pci=msi" to grub2?
[21:15] <Seeker`> tgm4883: that is the correct path to the folder that contains the VIDEO_TS folder
[21:15] <anon_bot> hmm, /etc/default/grub maybe under the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" maybe
[21:16] <tgm4883> Seeker`, so it's not passing the correct path then?  I've never used video_ts folders so I don't know what it's looking for
[21:16] <tgm4883> anon_bot, IDK
[21:17] <Seeker`> tgm4883: correct
[21:18] <Seeker`> bah, this is going to be easier to just set my backend reencoding all of the VIDEO_TS stuff to .mkvs or something
[21:19] <tgm4883> Seeker`, can you post your frontend logs when you try to play one
[21:20] <Seeker`> tgm4883: will have to see what I can dig out; my girlfriend is watching a film atm, will loose my head if i try and fiddle with stuff rightnow
[21:20] <tgm4883> ok
[21:23] <Seeker`> can't find anything, will have to wait for an hour to two
[22:20] <anon_bot> can I cause any harm by adding the default user (me) into the mythtv group?
[22:30] <Seeker`> wow, 118 films @ 2 hours a film is going to be a lot of encoding
[22:51] <qwebirc6516> Hi, I'm installing 10.10 and am having trouble getting xorg to load. At first it configured things for nvidia, but I'm using core i3 integrated graphics. I tried to change the name of the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to intel but that didn't help