[00:01] <geneiros> hi there kirill
[00:01] <kirill> o
[00:01] <kirill> hi geneiros
[00:01] <kirill> can u help me?
[00:02] <geneiros> i'll try
[00:04] <kirill> i got drivers fron viaarena and install it on ubuntu but when i try it on xubuntu i got errors when i try to make and make install
[00:05] <kirill> i cant understand how i can resolve this problem with make
[00:05] <kirill> i reinstall build essential but it dont help me
[00:09] <geneiros> what is the error?
[00:09] <kirill> error 2
[00:10] <geneiros> and what drivers are you trying to install?
[00:10] <kirill> viaarena - unichrome9
[00:10] <geneiros> does the make runs well?
[00:10] <kirill> i think may be rivers for gnome dont work on xcf
[00:10] <kirill> on ubuntu all ok
[00:11] <kirill> i do the same things on xubuntu like on ubuntu
[00:11] <penguin42> kirill: The 2 is the last bit - what went before
[00:11] <kirill> but on xubuntu they dont work
[00:11] <kirill> ./vinstall
[00:11] <kirill> then cd via
[00:11] <kirill> then make
[00:11] <kirill> then error2
[00:12] <penguin42> just error 2? Nothing else?
[00:12] <kirill> yes
[00:12] <geneiros> thats strange
[00:12] <kirill> what i error2?
[00:13] <penguin42> ENOENT - No such file or directory
[00:13] <kirill> oooooooo
[00:13] <penguin42> normally something tells you what it was trying to do before going splat
[00:13] <kirill> downalod arhive
[00:13] <libv> urgh
[00:14] <kirill> then unpack it
[00:14] <kirill> then ./vinstall
[00:14] <kirill> got a new dir
[00:14] <kirill> enter new dir
[00:14] <kirill> then make
[00:14] <kirill> then make install
[00:14] <libv> kirill: VIA barely understands english, let alone free software
[00:14] <libv> kirill: give up now.
[00:15] <geneiros> do you have kernel source installed?
[00:16] <kirill> hmm
[00:16] <kirill> i donno
[00:16] <kirill> im newby
[00:16] <kirill> i do the same thing like in ubuntu thats all
[00:16] <geneiros> the error of folder is lib/modules/2.*.*/build?
[00:16] <kirill> o
[00:16] <kirill> how i can download and reinstall kernel?
[00:18]  * libv shakes his head and returns to debugging vbe on a 6y old laptop
[00:19] <kirill> ok i reinstall xubuntu now and try again
[00:20] <kirill> senk u
[00:20] <kirill> bye
[00:30] <JanC> anybody know how well ATI/Intel switching graphics work with Ubuntu?
[00:30] <JanC> in 10.10 I mean
[00:36] <geneiros> i have only nvidia card...cant help...
[00:37] <geneiros> do you mean hibrid cards?
[00:38] <penguin42> JanC: I've been lurking on #ubuntu+1 for quite a while now and I don't think I've seen anyone ask
[00:43] <JanC> it's some new tech with Core i3 and such where you can switch between the intel & radeon card at runtime on windows
[00:43] <JanC> used in laptops
[00:43] <penguin42> JanC: Yeh it's been around for a while ; I use a machine at work that has such a setup
[00:44] <penguin42> but I just keep it locked on Intel
[00:44] <JanC> but I was mostly wanting to know if it was possible to use the ATI card  ;)
[00:44] <penguin42> JanC: The Bios on the thinkpad I have allows you to select between switchable and one or the other in the bios
[00:45] <JanC> it's an MSI laptop
[00:45] <penguin42> JanC: Theoretically I think the kernel now has the feature enabled (VGA Switcheroo) don't know what hardware it works on though
[00:46] <JanC> anyway, the intel part works fine, just don't know how to use the radeon part  ☺
[00:46] <penguin42> JanC: Do you see a /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo ?
[00:46] <JanC> nope, didn't have much time anyway
[00:47] <JanC> I might have a look at that when I go to my parent next time  ☺
[00:47] <penguin42> JanC: See http://asusm51ta-with-linux.blogspot.com/
[00:49] <JanC> thanks, I'll have a look at it
[00:51] <JanC> Ubuntu might need to grow support for this though, as it proposes to install fglrx, but when you install it, it doesn't boot anymore  ;)
[00:51] <JanC> well, boots, but doesn't start X
[03:30] <bjsnider> where's the best place to look for a log message when compiz fails to load?
[22:54] <ari-tczew> does ubuntu use package nvidia-kernel-common ?
[22:55] <ari-tczew> I would merge this one in natty.
[22:56] <bjsnider> no it does not
[22:56] <bjsnider> it uses nvidia-common though
[22:57] <ari-tczew> bjsnider: so package can be deleted?
[23:01] <bjsnider> what do you mean?
[23:02] <bjsnider> ari-tczew, sorry, i misinterpreted your original question. You can probably delete that package
[23:04] <ari-tczew> bjsnider: ok, I'll open a request.
[23:35] <Alan> Damn, can you guys work out where you want configuration to be? :P
[23:35] <RAOF> It hasn't changed since Lucid :)
[23:35] <Alan> Yes it has
[23:36] <RAOF> Lucid had it in /usr/share/X11l/xorg.conf.d; we backported that patch (didn't we?)
[23:36] <Alan> What was /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/ now appears to be /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[23:36] <Alan> RAOF: not that i can see
[23:36] <Alan> still at /usr/lib in Lucid for me
[23:36] <RAOF> Oh.  Well, either way, it's unlikely to move from /usr/share/X11, which is where it should have been in the first place.
[23:37] <Alan> :P
[23:37] <Alan> At least this isn't a major problem
[23:37] <RAOF> Also, that shouldn't _really_ affect you; /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d will override those snippets (IIRC), and /etc/X11/xorg.conf will override _everything_ :)
[23:37] <Alan> Unlike the last 4 releases which have required completely different hacks to make my mouse button remapping work
[23:37] <Alan> RAOF: I thought /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ didn't work in Lucid?
[23:38] <Alan> i thought that's why i ended up using the /usr/lib/X11.... one in the first place...
[23:38] <RAOF> It might not have worked in Lucid, you're right.
[23:40] <Alan> well i'm glad things have straightened out
[23:41] <RAOF> Yeah.  This should be the final state.
[23:41] <RAOF> For a while, at least.  Until we decide to go for some form of XML-based registry config :)
[23:43] <Alan> ugh
[23:43] <Alan> yeah
[23:43] <Alan> basically, i've been through Xorg.conf hacks, hal hacks, udev hacks, more hal hacks and then xorg.conf hacks to make this damned thing work over the last several releases....
[23:43] <RAOF> Yeah.  We've been moving the foundations a bit.
[23:44] <Alan> oh good, just dropped my thing in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and it worked
[23:44] <RAOF> Yay!  Sane configuration!
[23:44] <RAOF> Incidentally, what specifically do you need to configure?
[23:44] <Alan> I love the .d/ habit in Linux
[23:45] <Alan> I have a multi-button mouse, and the side-button on the mouse is significantly more ergonomic than using a middle mouse button ever is, so i remap that button to be another button-2
[23:46] <Alan> and seeming as i use middle mouse button A LOT... it's a pretty important thing for me
[23:46] <Alan> http://www.alanbriolat.co.uk/2010/04/remapping-mouse-buttons-on-ubuntu-lucid/
[23:52]  * RAOF adds that to his UDS blueprint queue.
[23:58] <ari-tczew> could someone take a look on bug 653274
[23:58] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 653274 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Plymouth doesn't show Kubuntu or Ubuntu logo with Nvidia proprietary driver (affects: 7) (heat: 44)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653274
[23:58] <ari-tczew> whether it's linux or plymouth affected