[00:00] <Tynach> I don't mind using closed source.
[00:00] <Tynach> I prefer open source, though.
[00:00] <dmatt> giampiero: when you know correct device name for partition for exmaple /dev/sda3, iti si possible mount it and subsequently use it
[00:00] <giampiero> dmatt: Gigolo shows it as mounted
[00:00] <scott_ino> rypervenche, not really a good topic of conversation in rooms like this ;) but I prefer open source
[00:00] <erUSUL> !ot
[00:00] <ArtArfon> pradeep_: Well, either do it with commands and get a bad overlook or install xorg and perhaps gnome.
[00:00] <Tynach> Anyway, reason I came here...
[00:00] <scott_ino> I'd like if they made more linux versions of closed source software though, that way people who swear by program X can still use it
[00:00] <giampiero> dmatt: how sould I mount it anyway?
[00:01] <rypervenche> scott_ino, Yeah I was going to add a comment at the end saying if it's going to get me kicked to let me know and I'd shut up. I'm still rather new to irc :X Shutting up.
[00:01] <Tynach> The Disk Utility (who's creators are RedHat) shows my partitions, but will not let me create or destroy partitions on my hard drive.
[00:01] <tucemiux> My laptop is hosed, I cant boot into it, using a rescue CD,   I have a directory that is encrypted and was being used for my "/home", how can I mount it manually using a rescue CD so I can get data off of it?
[00:01] <pradeep_> i heard gui are not usually good on servers ?
[00:01] <scott_ino> rypervenche, i mean i guess it's somewhat valid, I could care less.
[00:01] <ArtArfon> pradeep_: Hard to watch iptables with iptables -Ln etc
[00:01] <Tynach> GParted, simply says that there's no partitions at all on my hard drive, and tells me to completely reformat.
[00:02] <scott_ino> pradeep_, doesn't really matter, but generally the less you have to deal with the better
[00:02] <ArtArfon> pradeep_: Depends on who you ask.
[00:02] <geneiros> hi there,
[00:02] <Blue1> !hashes
[00:02] <geneiros> does ubuntu 10.10 support i3 i5 i7 super low frequency mode (SuperLFM)
[00:02] <geneiros> ??
[00:02] <pradeep_> ok then i see
[00:02] <ArtArfon> scott_ino: Generally people would like to visualize what they are doing. GUIs are good at that i think.
[00:02] <Tynach> I posted on Ubuntu Forums, but nobody's even LOOKED at my topic. I'm a bit worried I found a bug, with no workaround.
[00:03] <pradeep_> someone told me a good linux admin should be using gui
[00:03] <scott_ino> ArtArfon, agreed, just stating that it sometimes adds one more thing to worry about
[00:03] <Tynach> My Linux teacher (I'm taking a Linux class) told me that if you have a server, you should only VERY rarely use the GUI.
[00:03] <ArtArfon> pradeep_: Use what works solidly.
[00:03] <aeon-ltd> pradeep_: what you use doesn't make you a good or bad admin, its what you know, and application of what you know
[00:03] <pradeep_> at all cos i earn server in production environment don't use gui
[00:04] <Tynach> Full details of my problem are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591704
[00:04] <pradeep_> hmmm i feel better now
[00:04] <Tynach> I've no idea what to do. Any help?
[00:04] <aeon-ltd> pradeep_: its sounds like a kiddie remark who thinks its l33t to use command line, frankly sometimes cli fails and things, e.g. partition managment - gparted completely owns over any cli method
[00:04] <pradeep_> cos i went to a site
[00:04] <sheila> What is the command in terminal to switch the window buttons to the other side thanks
[00:05] <erUSUL> !controls | sheila
[00:05] <Tynach> GParted seriously FAILS at what my issue is.
[00:05] <pradeep_> and their servers was strictly cli so i wanted to install a gui
[00:05] <pradeep_> but they refused so i missed the job
[00:05] <sheila> erUSUL, thanks
[00:05] <dmatt> !mount|giampiero
[00:05] <ArtArfon> scott_ino: Agreed, but it can also be a timesaver and much more. We all started out using config files, but if someone is a genoius or something at those and then makes a gui for this server and its even more secure then some lazy admins would make their confs then id wanna use that gui :)
[00:05] <erUSUL> sheila: you're wellcome
[00:06] <manishe_> hi. It's there any channel op?
[00:06] <billy__> pradeep_: Linux just doesn't have the full set of GUI tools neewded to do the job properly
[00:06] <BlackX> remove te extended particion and then create another one with 2 logical
[00:07] <rypervenche> Does anyone have experience with Chromium?
[00:07] <erUSUL> manishe_: why?
[00:07] <erUSUL> rypervenche: i use it
[00:07] <Ryen> !anyone | rypervenche
[00:07] <pradeep_> rypervenche, i use chrome
[00:07] <scott_ino> rypervenche, yes if you're talking about the browser
[00:07] <ArtArfon> scott_ino: Take BIND as an example. Its been adviced againt using it in a non-chroot environment over the years, yet debian/ubuntu has that usage by default. Take gadmin-bind, gui... Itll chroot by default.
[00:08] <rypervenche> erUSUL, Have you found many differences between it and Chrome?
[00:08] <BlackX> Tynach,  remove te extended particion and then create another one with 2 logical
[00:08] <erUSUL> rypervenche: never used crhome
[00:08] <EvilCoder> Hello everyone.
[00:08] <BlackX> hi
[00:08] <scott_ino> ArtArfon, yes but people who are doing that kind of stuff should know what they're doing ;)
[00:08] <pradeep_> hi EvilCoder
[00:08] <Tynach> Alright, I suppose I can try that.
[00:08] <ArtArfon> scott_ino: Hehe, but they dont more often then they do ;)
[00:09] <EvilCoder> I am using ubuntu 10.04 desktop, now i want to use as a server, how i can remove the desktop ?
[00:09] <BlackX> with Gparted Tynach
[00:09] <ArtArfon> scott_ino: Hard or Easy ... hmm... 95% choose easy
[00:09] <aeon-ltd> EvilCoder: just remove xorg, and lots of orphans should appear and remove those aswell
[00:09] <scott_ino> ArtArfon, agreed ;)
[00:09] <ArtArfon> :)
[00:09] <izinucs> EvilCoder: you don't have to if you don't want to.  what do you want to do with the server? serve web pages?
[00:09] <ArtArfon> bbiab
[00:10] <Tynach> BlackX, GParted says that drive is 100% blank.
[00:10] <Bluetje[NL]> Good evening everybody (or morning / afternoon) depending where you are ofcourse :)
[00:10] <BlackX> remove the ext part that u first create
[00:10] <wendico> or goodnight in my case xdd
[00:11] <Dominiks> Same
[00:11] <Bluetje[NL]> haha :) nn wendico :)
[00:11] <BlackX> and then make the 2 with 2 logical
[00:11] <Tynach> I don't want to reformat and/or repartition the entire drive.
[00:11] <spence> can someone answer this:
[00:11] <spence> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/created-several-pages-but-not-showing-up-in-theme-why?replies=1#post-1731961
[00:11] <Bluetje[NL]> kinda feels wrong to drop in here and start asking questions straight away , but ive been stuck with this thing for the entire night and i just cant seem to figure it out :(
[00:11] <Tynach> Windows is on there, with valuable information.
[00:11] <spence> OOPS
[00:11] <spence> wrong channel
[00:11] <devslash> does anyone here use ubuntu in virtualbox  ?
[00:11] <Muelli> !anyone | devslash
[00:11] <phil_in_london> Bluetje[NL] thats the point of the channel :)
[00:12] <izinucs> devslash: I have
[00:12] <BlackX> Tynach,  u was wanting to delete 2 logical partitions inside an extended partition
[00:12] <Bluetje[NL]> hehe i know phil :) , but i mean i dont know all of you yet ;p and for me it would only be fair if you guys help me out i become a "steady" one in the channel to help the rest out aswell :)
[00:12] <Tynach> I already deleted the two logical partitions inside the extended partition.
[00:12] <Bluetje[NL]> i use ubuntu sometimes in vmware/virtualbox devs , whats up
[00:12] <Tynach> But, it will not let me create new partitions.
[00:12] <wendico> this ubottu is very clever :)
[00:13] <Tynach> Nor will it let me delete any other partitions.
[00:13] <BlackX> Tynach,  how many partition do u have in the extendes
[00:13] <devslash> izinucs: i installed 10.10 and after it finished installing it says "unknown version of the X Windows system installed. Not installing X Windows System drivers
[00:13] <Tynach> That is with the RedHat Disk Utility.
[00:13] <izinucs> devslash: did it drop you to a command prompt?
[00:13] <devslash> izinucs: i mean i get that when i install the guest additions
[00:13] <Tynach> I say how many I have on the forum post I linked to.
[00:13] <TheBoredClub> I'm having an issue with my Ubuntu. My system crashes about 2-3 times per day on my 9 year old machine. What happens is that the screen goes black then shows a blinking underscore as it does when the BIOS are loading, then goes black again and the top half the the screen starts blinking vertical white stripes and I have to power the machine off and back on to use it again. If anyone has...
[00:13] <TheBoredClub> ...heard of this problem before I'd really like it fixed.
[00:14] <Bluetje[NL]> Dev, does it work when you ignore the guest addition ?
[00:14] <Tynach> 4 currently, used to be 6.
[00:14] <izinucs> devslash: ah.. could be they are not compatible with the 10.10 version.. did you also try the 10.04 release?
[00:14] <Bluetje[NL]> virtualbox tends to be a bit sloppy on updating the guest additions
[00:14] <linux_probe> devslash~ http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1157-install-guest-addition-in-ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-fix
[00:14] <devslash> Bluetje[NL]: it works but the resolution is only 800x600
[00:14] <EvilCoder> I am using ubuntu 10.04 desktop, now i want to use as a server, how i can remove the desktop ?
[00:14] <Bluetje[NL]> ah probe beat me XD
[00:14] <Bluetje[NL]> damn you probe ;p your to quick with google
[00:15] <chris2> so? is ubuntu 10.10 on yet? :D
[00:15] <linux_probe> >_>
[00:15] <izinucs> EvilCoder: you didn't answer before.. but you can have your machine as a server without eliminating the desktop.. would you want that?
[00:15] <linux_probe> lrn to google ?
[00:15] <Muelli> EvilCoder: apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[00:15] <Bluetje[NL]> for me : i has a intel 915m (i know crapcard in this lappie) and ive been trying to get direct3d up and running (to play some older games like max payne , dungeon keeper etc in wine)
[00:16] <EvilCoder> izinucs : I have less memory , so i want to remove the desktop
[00:16] <Bluetje[NL]> now for some reason every game it try just crashes saying theres no direct3d :(
[00:16] <devslash> linux_probe: thanks
[00:16] <EvilCoder> Muelli : thanks or the help, lemme try
[00:16] <phil_in_london> Bluetje[NL] why wouldn't you dual boot and save the headache?
[00:16] <ArtArfon> TheBoredClub: Yes, your graphics card driver is bad. Set /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use " Driver "vesa" " instead.
[00:16] <Bluetje[NL]> its an old laptop and i would love to swap over to fulltime linux if possible
[00:17] <izinucs> EvilCoder: ok.. then Muelli 's suggestion is correct but I'd do it like this.. sudo apt-get -remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server
[00:17] <Bluetje[NL]> im still half a learner sometimes and im getting a lot better at it :) , glxinfo says i have direct rendering etc
[00:17] <ArtArfon> TheBoredClub: Theres a workaround for it that involves installing a new kernel and driver
[00:17] <Muelli> izinucs: apt-get install ubuntu-destop- ubuntu-server might actually work :)
[00:18] <ArtArfon> TheBoredClub: Happened on my IBM Netvista also.
[00:18] <phil_in_london> Bluetje[NL] I wouldn't know about that stuff, I've never played games on the computer.
[00:18] <Bluetje[NL]> it was just my first test to be fair =] . my main pc still runs windows (shames :$)
[00:18] <izinucs> Muelli: apt-get "remove ubuntu-desktop" && apt-get install ubuntu-server.. it removes one then installs the other.
[00:18] <Y_Ichiro> how do i go to another tab in irssi?
[00:19] <Y_Ichiro> without typing /join
[00:19] <Muelli> izinucs: so should my suggestion but in one command.
[00:19] <izinucs> Y_Ichiro: alt+1-9
[00:19] <izinucs> Muelli: you can separate commands with &&
[00:20] <Muelli> izinucs: wow. You can also shove a shovel up your throat. But you can as well tell apt-get to install one package and remove some other.
[00:20] <izinucs> Y_Ichiro: or Alt+right/left arrow
[00:21] <izinucs> Muelli: ??  that's a very strange comment..
[00:21] <kennethsime1> release party?
[00:21] <ArtArfon> izinucs: Are you a bot ?
[00:22] <izinucs> ArtArfon: why would you ask that? no
[00:22] <Muelli> izinucs: I know, good you realised that you made a strange comment, too.
[00:22] <ArtArfon> izinucs: 23*5 , + 3 == ?
[00:23] <BlackX> 118
[00:23] <izinucs> yep
[00:23] <ArtArfon> Lol
[00:23] <pradeep_> ArtArfon, how do you discover bots
[00:24] <ArtArfon> pradeep_: I eat them
[00:24] <BlackX> lol
[00:24] <pradeep_> i think his statement was direct
[00:24] <pradeep_> lol
[00:24] <izinucs> ArtArfon: I'm sitting here watching Fringe so maybe some of it has rubbed off :)
[00:24] <pradeep_> lets get back to linux ubuntu
[00:25] <Quantum_Ion> pradeep_, are you from india ?
[00:25] <izinucs> pradeep_: yep
[00:25] <Omen_20> Where did the bookmark feature in Banshee go?
[00:25] <pradeep_> Quantum_Ion, izinucs heheheehhe nope
[00:25] <pradeep_> cos of my name
[00:25] <ArtArfon> BlackX, izinucs, pradeep_: Im watching my fridge cool a beer for me :)
[00:25] <Quantum_Ion> pradeep_, yeah
[00:26] <pradeep_> am truly Nigerian, Africa
[00:26] <pradeep_> home of ubuntu hehehehe
[00:26] <ariakus> !isitout
[00:27] <Quantum_Ion> pradeep_, I thought ubuntu was from South Africa
[00:27] <pradeep_> yea
[00:27] <pradeep_> south africa
[00:27] <pradeep_> but it is still africa
[00:27] <ariakus> what means popup "a serious krnel malfunction was detexted on your system"?
[00:27] <ArtArfon> ariakus: The beta works kind of nicely. Upgrade and update and youll have the Maverick..
[00:28] <pradeep_> looking towards using a kde based distro
[00:28] <pradeep_> ?
[00:28] <ArtArfon> ariakus: Although, maybe wait to get the real coolness of it all.
[00:28] <Baba_B00ie> is there a command from the command line to list directories what the file system is ?
[00:28] <ArtArfon> pradeep_: kde reaks
[00:28] <ArtArfon> :)
[00:28] <Quantum_Ion> pradeep_, kubuntu ???
[00:28] <izinucs> pradeep_: I like kubuntu
[00:29] <Ken8521> i like telling my mother in law kubuntu is awesome
[00:30] <ariakus> Baba_B00ie: mount?
[00:30] <Baba_B00ie> ariakus, mount just mounts right? it won't display directory structure and tell you the file system or does it ?
[00:30] <Matson> is there an app or tool that will take a directory of images and create thumbnails (like with convert) and make an index.html so they can be viewed easily online?
[00:31] <izinucs> Baba_B00ie: sudo fdisk -l will give you the drives/partitions and file systems..
[00:31] <Matson> I've already got the webserver running, just basically need the thumbnails, and making the html pages, showing the thumbnails and linking to the images
[00:31] <ariakus> Baba_B00ie: it will report the mount points, isn't it what u wannt?
[00:32] <ariakus> Matson: do it unixway
[00:32] <izinucs> Baba_B00ie: mount -l will show all mounted partitions
[00:32] <Matson> ariakus: ls | xargs ... > index.html ?
[00:32] <Matson> sigh
[00:32] <Doonz> hey guys. Im trying to get apache2 to listen on a different port. But it will not work other than on port 80. no firewalls or anything blocking me
[00:33] <Baba_B00ie> ariakus, izinucs, thanks. no i was looking for a command that would actually give you a listing of files and directories. and also tell you the file system type. something similar to midnight commander maybe.
[00:33] <Matson> how can use convert to batch process a bunch of files to make mid and thumbnail sizes?
[00:33] <ariakus> !don't work
[00:34] <mbroeker> Doonz, edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[00:34] <izinucs> Matson: imagemagick will do that .. look for the morgrify or convert commands
[00:34] <ariakus> Matson: imagemagic?
[00:34] <cwr> hi
[00:34] <Doonz> mbroeker: but what line
[00:34] <Matson> got imagemagic
[00:34] <wendico> wow!!! installing compiz extra effects solved my panels issue, i cannot belive it!!!
[00:34] <izinucs> ariakus: imagemagick.. it's a cli image manipulation program
[00:34] <Baba_B00ie> or something like 'tree'
[00:34] <mbroeker> Doonz, first, edit /etc/apache2/ports.conf and try that
[00:34] <Matson> izinucs: what is morgrify ?
[00:35] <cwr> is it possible to build a amd64 package on a 386 system?
[00:35] <Doonz> nm i see it now
[00:35] <mbroeker> Doonz, eg, switch to another port and restart apache2
[00:35] <pradeep_> wvdial is such a nice to tool
[00:35] <soreau> wendico: What panel issue?
[00:35] <Doonz> right at the top missed it in the header
[00:35] <pradeep_> just that it is not as fast as the other
[00:35] <fasta> cwr, yes, but don't ask me how.
[00:35] <cwr> :)
[00:35] <izinucs> Matson: I use it to shrink the size of jpg's to whatever I want..
[00:35] <Quantum_Ion> pradeep_, they don't use wifi networks in Nigeria yet ?
[00:35] <ariakus> 'transmogrify' is a joke name fi=r magical transformation
[00:35] <izinucs> Matson: it's part of the imagemagick suite of tools
[00:36] <jupitor> 88888888877777766666666666666666666666666666666666
[00:36] <pradeep_> ofcos they do and why do you ask?
[00:36] <wendico> Soreau: compiz unexpanded panels came in the center of the screen instead of in the desired position when rebooting or reseting panels, same problem in many computers
[00:36] <Quantum_Ion> pradeep_, what are you using wvdial for ?
[00:36] <pradeep_> atm am using mtn dongle
[00:36] <izinucs> Matson: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php
[00:36] <wendico> soreau just installing the extraefects solved the problem even though i havent enabled any of them yet
[00:37] <ariakus> iz libreoffice in reros now alredy?
[00:37] <pradeep_> Quantum_Ion, sometime is difficult connecting the mtn dongle so i use wvdial to connect or i have to keep trying continuosly
[00:37] <soreau> wendico: What panel? Do you have a screenshot of it misbehaving? (and one of correct behavior?) Did you test this only happens while compiz is running?
[00:37] <peto_> bye
[00:37] <ariakus> f...ng keyboard
[00:38] <pradeep_> Quantum_Ion, or do you have a better way to connect modems
[00:38] <Quantum_Ion> pradeep_, is wifi internet access in Nigeria expensive
[00:38] <pradeep_> Quantum_Ion, cos i normlly use network manager
[00:38] <pradeep_> very very expensive
[00:38] <wendico> no soreau but i can reproduce the effect any time since i have it in at least 4 computers, i will make a bugreport about it
[00:38] <Quantum_Ion> pradeep_, I have not used a modem in a long time I live in the USA
[00:39] <pradeep_> tariffs are crazy here
[00:39] <Tynach> I'm in the LiveCD for Ubuntu, and I'm having the same issues with GParted and Disk Utility as before.
[00:39] <pradeep_> Quantum_Ion, oh i c
[00:39] <Tynach> I think it's interesting that Ubuntu has both partitioning programs installed by default.
[00:39] <ariakus> !persistance
[00:39] <izinucs> pradeep_: you trying to get it to work?  is it usb?
[00:39] <Maka> Greetings, I am having a problem after upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10rc. Everything seemed to go fine, rebooted after update, boots fine.. comes to login, i log in just fine, then i hear ubuntu sound, see purple background, but no gnome menu's show up. i can see and move the mouse cursor. I can ctl-alt-f1 to a command prompt and navigate via command prompt just fine.. just no gnome2 gui.
[00:39] <Quantum_Ion> pradeep_, it's mostly paid or open wifi networks most people hop on or they use cellular networks
[00:39] <soreau> wendico: Also confirming that removing extra plugins package breaks it again (because somehow I doubt installing this package alone could fix any panel)
[00:39] <pradeep_> izinucs, yes
[00:40] <gilaniali> how do i just check the timeazone and not change it using dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[00:40] <jrib> Maka: see if it happens with a new user
[00:40] <wendico> soreau this i will confirm right now, since i have being fighting this problem one week xd
[00:40] <jrib> Maka: but move to #ubuntu+1 for maverick support
[00:40] <wendico> i uninstall now
[00:40] <Quantum_Ion> pradeep_, Are Android and iPhone's popular in Nigeria ?
[00:40] <Maka> jrib, ok i will try that and come back and then come back to ubuntu+1 .. thank you :)
[00:40] <ariakus> its 10 october already
[00:40] <izinucs> pradeep_: after plugging it in go to a terminal and type "dmesg" (no quotes).. at the end will show the modem being recognized and most likely give you the mount point for it.
[00:40] <pradeep_> actually this is a GSM network am using and i subscribe for a days plan which is about 3.50 dollars
[00:41] <pradeep_> i.e 24hrs
[00:41] <Matson> command :  ls *.JPG | XARG-exec echo []\; convert -scale 20% [] mid/[].20p.JPG
[00:41] <bazhang> !ot > pradeep_
[00:41] <Gnurdux> dammit
[00:41] <wendico> soreau, uninstalling, rebooting and i tell u in a minute
[00:41] <izinucs> pradeep_: ah.. not an old fashioned dialup modem?
[00:41] <soreau> wendico: ok
[00:41] <Gnurdux> so google chrome unstable lets you view PDFs in the browser, which is great
[00:41] <pradeep_> yes they are but almost useless though black berry is the most popular here
[00:41] <jrib> Matson: ask a question
[00:41] <Gnurdux> unfortunately, it makes my browser crash with a newer version of chrome
[00:41] <izinucs> pradeep_: still dmesg should give you the mount point for the usb device despite what it is.
[00:42] <Gnurdux> but google-chrome beta doesnt support it at all
[00:42] <Gnurdux> i nee to downgrade to an older unstable
[00:42] <pradeep_> nope it is huwaei
[00:42] <Gnurdux> google doesnt have fucking directory listings on their download server, so i cnat see a list of older versions
[00:42] <Matson> jrib: I did earlier, that's the answer in case anyone wanted it
[00:42] <Seeker`> !language | Gnurdux
[00:42] <MaverickOne> !language | Gnurdux
[00:42] <jrib> Matson: that's a pretty silly way to do that
[00:43] <soreau> jrib: <Matson> how can use convert to batch process a bunch of files to make mid and thumbnail sizes?
[00:43] <Gnurdux> oh ok, sorry
[00:43] <Matson> jrib: how would you do it?
[00:43]  * Gnurdux is highly irritated though
[00:43] <jrib> Matson: I wouldn't bother with xarg or piping ls output...
[00:43] <ariakus> which GUI mail client in Lucis or Maverick supports GMail IMAP?
[00:43] <Matson> ok
[00:44] <soreau> Matson: Yea, parsing ls output is generally a bad idea
[00:44] <Matson> I've always had issues doing commands like this - what is a better way?
[00:44] <ariakus> Matson: find easier
[00:44] <soreau> ariakus: evolution?
[00:44] <ariakus> soreau: no
[00:44] <TwoD> ariakus: yes it does
[00:45] <ArtArfon> ariakus: Enable the module for it..
[00:45] <faris> hey
[00:45] <ariakus> evolution has modules?
[00:45] <Quantum_Ion> pradeep_, at the moment I am google earthing Lagos, Nigeria on Ubuntu Linux
[00:45] <faris> what`s kind of chat that?
[00:45] <ArtArfon> ariakus: Yes
[00:45] <pradeep_> izinucs, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/xFfJdNmA that is the output there
[00:45] <Matson> ariakus: find is a deep morass of command programming on the command line
[00:45] <Matson> I find
[00:45] <pradeep_> Quantum_Ion, okay
[00:45] <jrib> Matson: well for converting images I'm pretty sure mogrify itself is enough to batch process
[00:45] <ArtArfon> ariakus: Edit -> modules
[00:46] <Matson> I have ImageMagic, but I don't seem to have mogrify
[00:46] <ariakus> ArtArfon: and what it exactly does?
[00:46] <jrib> Matson: it does
[00:46] <ArtArfon> ariakus: Enable the option you want
[00:46] <jrib> Matson: but convert works too if you want to keep the originals...
[00:47] <wendico> soreau: no, the problem is not reproducing any more.... it magicly went solved... now im lost in what solved it
[00:47] <pradeep_> Quantum_Ion, am in enugu state now but i live in lagos
[00:47] <bazhang> pradeep_, offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:47] <soreau> Matson: imagemagick provides /usr/bin/mogrify
[00:47] <avdg> double https in topic?
[00:47] <wendico> but i almost sure i only installed the extra effects when suddently did not happend anymore
[00:48] <pradeep_> bazhang, sorry my bad man
[00:48] <soreau> Matson: or graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat
[00:48] <Quantum_Ion> pradeep_, what is enugu state ?
[00:48] <izinucs> pradeep_: did you boot with it plugged in?
[00:48] <wendico> can someone paste me the command to reset panels?
[00:48] <soreau> which is likely pulled in by imagemagik
[00:48] <pradeep_> izinucs, no
[00:49] <valentino_tuga> Hi. I just installed kubuntu 10.10. the problem is that  I have no sound.
[00:49] <bazhang> !resetpanels > wendico
[00:49] <soreau> ! resetpanel | wendico
[00:49] <izinucs> pradeep_: dmesg reports the last thing mounted was an iso of something.. I'll look deeper
[00:49] <Nukeador> Is there any plan for ubuntu.com site localization?
[00:50] <wendico> thank you, lets try all over xddd
[00:50] <izinucs> pradeep_: ehci_hcd is the mount point of the gsm modem
[00:51] <izinucs> pradeep_: or ttyUSB0
[00:51] <izinucs> pradeep_: also ttyUSB1
[00:51] <pradeep_> izinucs, yes i think from my wvdial
[00:51]  * ArtArfon has soon finished his batch of Imperial Stormtrooper Triple Bock Stout :)
[00:51] <Gwar> simple Q: Is there any way to use the edge binding for scripts Comiz uses in just plain metacity? I ask because Compiz messes with Wine far too much
[00:51] <izinucs> pradeep_: I think the ehci_hcd is the phone acting like a mass storage device
[00:51] <orbitalcommand> im connecting with "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid {"essid"} enc {enc}" and it doesnt give me any errors but i cant load web browser and connect.  any ideas on how to resovle this issue?
[00:52]  * ArtArfon It was awesome (Brewed from scratch)
[00:52] <soreau> Gwar: You want to do what with edges and wine?
[00:52] <bazhang> ArtArfon, please keep the chat elsewhere
[00:52] <soreau> ArtArfon: There happens to be an active #homebrew channel
[00:52] <pradeep_> izinucs, yea
[00:52] <soreau> ##
[00:53] <Gwar> soreau: I have scripts to emulat Areo Snap, but I don't use Compiz because it screws up wine, so I would like to know if there is a way to do the edge binding in just plain metacity
[00:53] <gbillings> since when does #ubuntu check for bots?
[00:53] <soreau> Gwar: Oh sure, just google it
[00:53] <ArtArfon> soreau: Yes, a few of those ane nice and some of the others are really talented.
[00:53] <izinucs> gotta run pradeep_ good luck
[00:53] <soreau> Gwar: There are a ton of craptastic ways to do it without compiz ;)
[00:53] <fiber> Hi, I'm trying to boot into the new 10.10 liveCD, but when I do the boot hangs with the error http://pastebin.com/ePMbtx3L .  I've asked dr. google and it seems the problem has to do with dmraid, so i disconnected all my raid devices but this still happens!  does anyone have an idea as to what is happening?
[00:53] <Gwar> Gee, thanks. Google it. It's not like the first thing I did... -sigh-
[00:53] <soreau> ArtArfon: But you shouldn't talk about it here since it's OT and no one cares to hear it
[00:54] <ArtArfon> soreau: I consulted them on the topic. The outcome was fantastic. So happy about it :)
[00:54] <ArtArfon> soreau: Yeah.
[00:55] <gbillings> fiber, check ur md5sums and redownload and reburn. make sure you are not using cheap media (ie cheap cd, cheap flash drive)
[00:56] <valentino_tuga> the sound of the pulseaudio mixer is pointing to my graphics card. i would like it to be pointing to the integrated audio chipset of the motherboard
[00:56] <fiber> gbillings: i've checked the md5sum's and they work out.... also i've tried with 3 different USB keys, currently with a lexar one
[00:57] <anal_christ> anyone tried 10.10 yet?
[00:57] <anal_christ> is it stable?
[00:57] <fiber> gbillings:  i've tried with two lexars and one kingston keys... all give the same problems
[00:57] <pradeep_> izinucs, thanks ttyl
[00:57] <gbillings> 10.10 is stable, somewhat
[00:57] <quietone> i'm stuck trying to use the card reader on dell laptop, nothing happens. i've never used one before.
[00:58] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: Its very nice. Installed it a month ago and it keeps getting better all the time.
[00:58] <anal_christ> ArtArfon: how?
[00:58] <pradeep_> quietone, you sure it is mounted properly
[00:58] <fiber> anal_christ: i would be trying it out if i could get the liveusb to boot!
[00:58] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: There where a few glitches and most are covered now. Its speedy and neat :)
[00:58] <anal_christ> ArtArfon: that doesn't sound like a big deal to me
[00:58] <quietone> pradeep_, it doesn't mount.
[00:59] <anal_christ> is the interface drastically different?
[00:59] <ariakus> anal_christ: it's better just because it have newer versions of bugridden gnu software
[00:59] <kennethsime1> so what's the deal with installing before the release? does system update keep everything up to date with nightly builds and such? When the nw version is officially released, do you re-install from that ISO or are you just up-to-date with it already anyway?
[00:59] <ariakus> kennethsime1: it's alreasy here
[00:59] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: Not overwhelmigly but its new all over.
[01:00] <gilaniali> is there an offline version of write? i mean, a command which will let me leave a message for the user, which they can see once they log in
[01:00] <kennethsime1> ariakus: lies!
[01:00] <quietone> pradeep_, but then I'm just using nautilus. i don't know how to mount it with mount.
[01:00] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: Its not like xp->vista where i dozed off :P
[01:00] <anal_christ> dozed off?
[01:00] <rooks> gilaniali, email?
[01:00] <ariakus> kennethsime1: what lies?
[01:00] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: or 95->98->xp... Zzzz
[01:00] <kennethsime1> ariakus: it's not here!
[01:00] <anal_christ> i dont understand it at all
[01:02] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: So its clearly all the thumbs up christ :)
[01:03] <anal_christ> ArtArfon: has it ever crashed?
[01:03] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: No
[01:03] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: Not for me
[01:03] <dogmatic69> hi all
[01:03] <anal_christ> have you tried kernel graphics card switching during runtime?
[01:03] <ariakus> what means popup "a serious krnel malfunction was detexted on your system"?
[01:03] <anal_christ> lets you switch between two graphics cards
[01:03] <anal_christ> software, not hardwarly
[01:03] <pradeep_> quietone, mount -l to see
[01:03] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: Nope, no need.
[01:03] <wendico> Soreau: not happening any more! eventhough im happy for me, i cannot help the comunity to solve the problem coz i know its happening to me many times, i will check on monday in the other computers
[01:04] <soreau> wendico: ok
[01:04] <wendico> wow im so happy though, other problem solved xd
[01:04] <dogmatic69> im setting up some vhosts on my machine, and want some folders available to all sites (php frameworks like cakephp / zend) so they are not needed all over. is there a way i can make a symlink to one location in each vhost dir
[01:05] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: I do know about a remote exploit on something but i hope itll be fixed. Told about that yesterday.
[01:05] <anal_christ> do you have a link?
[01:05] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: Id rather keep it locked down
[01:06] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: Unless you can prove youre a valid recipient ?
[01:06] <anal_christ> what the hell are you talking about the xploit is already public
[01:06] <kirill> hello there please help me to download dir - lib/modules/2.6.32-21-generic/build
[01:06] <kirill> it absent but i need it
[01:06] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: And what url would that be ?
[01:06] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: And what component ?
[01:06] <ariakus> kirill: reinstall the corresponding kernel package
[01:06] <anal_christ> ArtArfon: i don't know, i'm not a hacker, there are 100s of sites disclosing exploits
[01:07] <kirill> but how i ewb
[01:07] <anal_christ> i.e packetstorm
[01:07] <kirill> newby
[01:07] <quietone> pradeep_, nothing 'new' with mount or df
[01:07] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: There are no exploits againt maverick that ive seen, no.. youre confused, youre a cracker.
[01:07] <anal_christ> i'm a cracker?
[01:07] <anal_christ> shut up nigger
[01:08] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: Or a black hat..
[01:08] <LjL> !ops | anal_christ
[01:08] <bastidrazor> i could see this coming a mile away..
[01:08] <kirill> please help me how i can corresponding kernel package
[01:08] <kirill> reinstall
[01:09] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell kirill about kernel
[01:09] <ariakus> aptitude reinstall linux-image-2.6.32-generic
[01:09] <ArtArfon> anal_christ: Grey is a better place ;)
[01:09] <ariakus> do you ban dynamic ips? lol
[01:09] <twinkie_addict> wow that ban near instant
[01:10] <rww> FloodBot automatically bans webchat users if they're removed from the channel by ops.
[01:10] <edbian> ariakus, You can ban any IP.
[01:10] <ArtArfon> ariakus: What would you suggest ? :)
[01:10] <mm3> why ubuntu cannot hibernate or suspend correctly?
[01:10] <fiber> I'm trying to boot into the new 10.10 liveCD, but when I do the boot hangs with the error http://pastebin.com/ePMbtx3L .  I've asked dr. google and it seems the problem has to do with dmraid, so i disconnected all my raid devices but this still happens!  does anyone have an idea as to what is happening?
[01:10] <kirill> i just need - lib/modules/2.6.32-21-generic/build
[01:11] <ArtArfon> mm3: Your BIOS ACPI implementation isnt any good perhaps.
[01:11] <kirill> build dir only
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> fiber: See the /topic for 10.10 info.
[01:11] <Blue1> i just tried unetbootin in windows to try to create a bootable flash drive, it doesn't boot, suggestions?
[01:11] <zoe704> yeh i change bios
[01:11] <ArtArfon> Yah Yah :)
[01:11] <ariakus> kirill: then unpack it from deb
[01:11] <mm3> ArtArfon, can I update it?
[01:11] <fiber> tonyyarusso, cool, thanks a lot
[01:11] <agggh> hi
[01:12] <ariakus> ihave idiotic  popup "a serious krnel malfunction was detexted on your system"?when i bootm wtf?
[01:12] <kirill> senk u i try
[01:12] <mbroeker> ariakus, a popup?
[01:12] <zoe704> will 10.10 be able to dl at 12 am?
[01:13] <ArtArfon> mm3: Yes, but you could end up with a computer that wont boot... Sometimes its good to do it, sometimes it not. Determine how bad the problem in question is for you and then evaluate the possible impacts.
[01:13] <rww> zoe704: It'll be available when it's released. There isn't a set time for that.
[01:13] <agggh> my keyboard layout has been destroyed - i guess maybe a virus or something!!!
[01:13] <mm3> ok another thing, why gnome doesn't restore the opened apps that I had before shutting down?
[01:14] <bazhang> agggh, not likely a virus
[01:14] <agggh> i hope not
[01:14] <wendico> i installed compiz extra effect and i want to animate the icons on my panel apple-mac like effect (zoom on hover) how can i do it?
[01:14] <agggh> but I have no idea how it has happened
[01:14] <Ken8521> agggh: the chances of that being a virus, are about 1 in 50 quadrillion.. give or takea few trillion
[01:14] <agggh> i cannot type the letter e
[01:14] <ArtArfon> agggh: No, use the keyboard settings gui and disable evdev. Make sure to set the language to the correct one etc.
[01:14] <bazhang> agggh, you just did
[01:15] <Ken8521> agggh: well you just typed it?
[01:15] <agggh> i have it in the clipboard
[01:15] <Ken8521> lol, clever
[01:15] <ariacus> ihave idiotic  popup "a serious krnel malfunction was detexted on your system"?when i bootm wtf?
[01:15] <agggh> i have to type control V
[01:15] <agggh> aggggggghhhhhhhhhh
[01:15] <laurus> Can PostScript/EPS generators utilize foreign characters in TTF fonts that are located in the ~/.fonts folder?
[01:15] <wendico> xddd
[01:15] <lampo> hiiiiiiiiiiiii
[01:15] <agggh> i have no idea how to reset it!!!!!!
[01:15] <ArtArfon> Fraaagggg!!! :)
[01:15] <agggh> grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:15] <wendico> talk without e will be funny
[01:15] <gilaniali> rooks: something that doesnt require to be configured and
[01:15] <twinkie_addict> if i upgrade to 10.10 will it replace my very minimal setup with the whole distro  ? might be a dumb qwestion
[01:16] <soreau> wendico: Ask in #compiz
[01:16] <agggh> that key selects the *move window* function
[01:16] <wendico> soreau, okas, tx
[01:16] <ArtArfon> twinkie_addict: Yes, most likely..
[01:16] <mm3> agggh, you can map another key to the e if it's broken
[01:16] <agggh> it is like trying to type with t9
[01:17] <ariacus> twinkie_addict: yes
[01:17] <ariacus> twinkie_addict: new packages and its dependencies will be
[01:17] <ariacus> lol maverick is finally out
[01:17] <Lanks> just installed ubuntu server 10.04 and I am getting extremely slow speeds using apt. Are there any tests that I could do to see what is causing the problem? I suspect that the ethernet port could be faulty.
[01:17] <zoe704> can i map a key for eject?
[01:17] <mm3> I have a second keyboard becouse I lost the f on the laptop
[01:17] <kirill> oh i use aptitude reinstall linux-image-2.6.32-generic all was reinstallet but there is no build dir
[01:17] <ArtArfon> Multiple input devices... gotta love the maverick etc.
[01:18] <agggh> i rebooted the computer and got a very suspicious looking progress bar...
[01:18] <kirill> where i cang got - buid - dir for linux-image-2.6.32-generic
[01:18] <agggh> probably a user friendly rootkit being installed
[01:18] <zoe704> root/lib/
[01:18] <ArtArfon> kirill: Googlaeithim
[01:19] <tsimpson> kirill: when you install the kernel, you aren't building it, just installing the pre-build binary
[01:19] <kirill> oh
[01:19] <tsimpson> kirill: is there a reason you need the kernel source? or do you just want to look at it?
[01:19] <Spreadsheet_> Hello
[01:19] <Spreadsheet_> Do Intel Integrated graphics have good support, generally?
[01:19] <kirill> ineed to install drivers from viaarena
[01:19] <Spreadsheet_> Better than ATI, right?
[01:20] <twinkie_addict> the reson i ask i s have a very old pc only 370 mgs of ram i have a cli install of 10.4 lts with just a hand full of apps i dont want to upgrade and have all of ubuntu  im actualy running a skimpy x eviren ment with lxde
[01:20] <ArtArfon> Spreadsheet_: Have you tried spreadding em properly ?
[01:20] <kirill> i must make it
[01:20] <agggh> the layout is wrong too - i have a qwerty kayboard but now it seems to be qwerty
[01:20] <tsimpson> kirill: you probably only need the kernel headers, not the source. install linux-headers-2.6.32-generic and try
[01:20] <kirill> oki try it noe senk u
[01:21] <zoe704> i have that same error when i boot
[01:21] <eM_je> ..
[01:22] <bytesaber> anyone have a clue what the secret is, to getting audio to work over HDMI on an intel H55?
[01:23] <agggh> does know how i can reset this??? :/
[01:23] <ariacus> friggin ubuntu wireless bfeaks each 5 minutes
[01:23] <ariacus> i havean idiotic  popup "a serious krnel malfunction was detexted on your system"when i boot, wtf?
[01:23] <Dice-Man> clear
[01:23] <agggh> no
[01:24] <agggh> I have switched layouts and the z and y are okay again
[01:24] <kirill> error - /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-21-generic/arch/x86/Makefile:81: stack protector enabled but no compiler support
[01:24] <zoe704> its almost here
[01:24] <agggh> I cannot type without the e - it looks like some kind of humorous virus :(
[01:25] <Ken8521> agggh: are you sure your keyboard isn't damaged?.. does the physical "e" key, work under another language?
[01:25] <agggh> please anyone!!! does anyone have an idea?
[01:25] <kirill> hmm how i can install normal tools for - make
[01:25] <agggh> nope
[01:25] <Ken8521> agggh: the whining is getting old..
[01:25] <agggh> i changed to se
[01:25] <agggh> sorry!!!
[01:26] <agggh> I don't know what to do to reset it!!!
[01:26] <darkkrai> anyone here familiar with wine?
[01:26] <darkkrai> theres a lot more people in here
[01:27] <darkkrai> than winehq
[01:27] <agggh> yes ok
[01:27] <agggh> sorry
[01:27] <darkkrai> im running ubuntu 10.10 mav 64bit
[01:27] <darkkrai> trying to run civ5 and I get this log
[01:27] <darkkrai> http://pastesite.com/19247
[01:27] <darkkrai> wine 1.3.4 with vcr2008 installed via winetricks
[01:27] <Ken8521> darkkrai: thats a wine application issue, and isn't relating to ubuntu.. you need to take it up w/ them
[01:27] <darkkrai> okay
[01:27] <wasutton3> i am looking for something a little more robust than the lookup tool found in Administration -> Network Tools what would you suggest?
[01:27] <bytesaber> how do you do audio over hdmi
[01:28] <zeroseven0183> Does anybody know if upgrading (not fresh install) will work smoothly now on Maverick Meerkat?
[01:28] <darkkrai> well its up for grabs if anyone wants to help
[01:28] <darkkrai> zeroseven0183, it does
[01:28] <infinihate> So.
[01:28] <darkkrai> I upgraded yesterday :)
[01:28] <darkkrai> update-manager -d I think
[01:28] <darkkrai> open up alt+f2
[01:28] <Ken8521> zeroseven0183: it should.. but like all upgrades, things can go wrong.. there's someone in +1 just a few minutes ago w/ a busted upgrade
[01:28] <infinihate> Ubuntu 10.10 -- I'm switching from Mac OS X. Is it worth grabbing RC now and upgrading, or waiting?
[01:28] <darkkrai> and type that in
[01:28] <zeroseven0183> darkkrai: I've been seeing a lot of comments from the past that users still prefer fresh install rather than upgrading which is not really what I want every 6 months.
[01:29] <darkkrai> no problems here though
[01:29] <darkkrai> i guess its hardware
[01:29] <wackyshut> hi everyone
[01:29] <Ken8521> zeroseven0183: if you know how to back up your home(which I do to an external source).. it's really not a big deal.
[01:29] <zeroseven0183> @Ken8521: Is it not a point for improvement on the next release?
[01:29] <aeon-ltd> infinihate: just wait, its only a day
[01:29] <wackyshut> what time will maverick release to public???
[01:30] <zeroseven0183> @Ken8521: Yup, actually it's easy too
[01:30] <infinihate> aeon-ltd: I'm completely new to Linux, but too eager ;P.
[01:30] <Ken8521> is what not nt a point of impreovement zeroseven0183
[01:30] <edbian> infinihate, Welcome! Do you have question?
[01:30] <twinkie_addict> i still prefer fresh install my self though i may wait for next lts
[01:30] <aeon-ltd> infinihate: if your too eager, get a rolling release distro, then you'll never have to wait :)
[01:31] <darkkrai> wackyshut, in a few days
[01:31] <ariacus> wackyshut: it already is
[01:31] <zeroseven0183> wackyshut: check out #ubuntu-release-announce
[01:31] <wackyshut> ya,i know it's today,but still i didn't see the update when i do apt-get
[01:32] <wendico> lol, lost my panels and i dont have icons on desktop, how can i open a terminal to run the command to reset the panels?
[01:32] <zeroseven0183> wackyshut: The release candidate is *almost* the final release
[01:32] <edbian> wendico, alt + f2
[01:32] <infinihate> edbian: Nothing, just hoping that iPhone support is there (but I know that's Apple's fault, not you guys.)
[01:33] <Ken8521> wendico: that, or ctrl + alt + T also opens a terminal
[01:33] <edbian> infinihate, Oh I'm not a developer.  But thanks for the compliment!   Anywho.  Linux is a fantastic adventure.  Welcome! :)
[01:33] <alket> thank you ebarch nice tip
[01:33] <wackyshut> i've try it,but i use it as a live boot...
[01:33] <alket> edbian,
[01:33] <infinihate> edbian: well, I mean the community in general :)
[01:33] <wendico> alt f2 did not work but ctrl alt t did the job, thank
[01:33] <edbian> alket,  Your welcome
[01:33] <edbian> infinihate, :)
[01:33] <wackyshut> lol
[01:33] <Ken8521> wendico: well, alt F2 worked, u just didn't know what to do.. :)
[01:34] <wendico> probably right xd
[01:34] <wendico> but i looked like if nothing happened xd
[01:34] <ArtArfon> xd == new since 2003.
[01:35] <wendico> oh nice, i got my pannels back :)
[01:36] <ArtArfon> wendico: Cheers! :)
[01:36] <wackyshut> what happen with your panel wendico?
[01:36] <edbian> wendico, Don't be so surprised! :)
[01:36] <soreau> wackyshut: made it -x ;)
[01:36] <tamtam> I have a question
[01:36] <ArtArfon> wackyshut: He deleted it.
[01:36] <edbian> tamtam, You're in the right place
[01:36] <tamtam> when if ever will Ubuntu support netflix instant play
[01:37] <wackyshut> owh...lol
[01:37] <soreau> tamtam: Does it use flash? If so, does youtube work?
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> tamtam: You have it backwards.  The question is "When will Netflix support Ubuntu?"
[01:37] <wendico> ohh, im trying one panel with effects, i got one and i liked so i killed the older panels
[01:37] <Tongas> hi; could someone help me with connecting to a windows machine?
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> tamtam: so, call the Netflix people.
[01:37] <ArtArfon> tamtam: I hate things that starts to play wo me clicking on things before they start playing.
[01:37] <tamtam> youtube and all other streaming video works ine
[01:37] <Tongas> wendico jajaj you're still here ;p
[01:37] <tamtam> its just netflix that is not supported
[01:38] <wendico> but the new panel was killed aswell xdd
[01:38] <soreau> tamtam: Oh yea, I remember reading about this. Go gripe to netflix ;)
[01:38] <Ken8521> Tongas: like w/ VNC?
[01:38] <wendico> hey, hello tongas
[01:38] <Tongas> vnc?
[01:38] <wendico> still cannot conect to your share xd
[01:38] <wendico> ahhh vnc
[01:38] <wendico> nooooo
[01:38] <Ken8521> Tongas: so you can view and manipulate that PC, while on your PC
[01:38] <wackyshut> i've got problem with my samba protocol...
[01:38] <Tongas> I managed to get in through nautilus, but I can't mount it, because my connection is refused
[01:38] <wendico> just enable windows rdp
[01:38] <wackyshut> is anyone here can help me?
[01:38] <Tongas> rdp? lol ;p
[01:38] <tamtam> its just shitty you know you play pre month for a service that they just don't seem to care if its supported for open source
[01:38] <wendico> Remote Desktop Connection
[01:38] <Ken8521> ys, rdp, vnc.. same thing, different protocols
[01:39] <soreau> ! samba | wackyshut
[01:39] <Tongas> ahh
[01:39] <aeon-ltd> !ask | wackyshut
[01:39] <x0rs> Anyone know what causes: "udevd-work[XXX] open /dev/null failed: No such file or dir" to appear after selecting linux on my grub screen? I've update grub, but it still appears... i boot fine though after it passes
[01:39] <wendico> under MyPC properties, Remote
[01:39] <Tongas> nono, I can actually get in and create files and everything
[01:39] <Tongas> and yup, it's on
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> tamtam: and have you complained to netflix about that yet?
[01:39] <wackyshut> sorry,my mistake
[01:39] <Tongas> but if I try to mount it via termianl my connection is refused
[01:39] <wackyshut> i just can't connect to windows environment anymore
[01:39] <wendico> nice, but i was talking about what u where asking now, vnc
[01:39] <wendico> xddd
[01:40] <matcouto> Hi y'all, I'd like to get some opnions from you guys. Ive got ubuntu 10.04 installed on a Core 2 Duo, 2Gig RAM, DELL machine. By now I'm running Gnome as desktop enviroment and the most used app are: Eclipse IDE, Thunderbird, Firefox, Rhythmbox and also I've been keeping an VM(Vbox-Win XP) running to make use of the PL/SQL Developer(I haven't found any better so far for linux). The problem is, most of time I feel a lack of memory on my system, things get s
[01:40] <soreau> x0rs: Does /dev/null exist?
[01:40] <wackyshut> it's say's 'can't find windows share folder'
[01:40] <wendico> why to install vnc having build in remote desktop both in ubuntu and windows xd
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> matcouto: so buy more memory?
[01:40] <x0rs> soreau, yes
[01:40] <edbian> matcouto, you got cut off.  things get...
[01:40] <zoe704> ubuntu will be release 10/10 at 10:10  not sure what time zone
[01:40] <wendico> lol
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> zoe704: The time is not defined.
[01:41] <wendico> 10 10 10 10 10
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> zoe704: it will be sometime before midnight in Pago Pago.
[01:41] <soreau> x0rs: That was my only idea, sorry
[01:41] <Tongas> mm, you're losing me =p
[01:41] <wendico> should be code name ten tens
[01:41] <x0rs> soreau, ok np
[01:41] <ArtArfon> matcouto: Eclipse... ive been coding for more then 15 years and ive tried that and most other things. All it does is slow me down.
[01:41] <scott_ino> got multi-touch working w00t
[01:41] <edbian> ArtArfon, emacs ftw
[01:41] <ariacus> power
[01:41] <Tongas> I just want to mount it thoughh =p you have any idea why it's refusing my connection now? =/
[01:42] <wendico> tongas, wherent u asking about remote controling your windows from your ubuntu?
[01:42] <matcouto> tonyyarusso: that's my officer's machine. It's not that easy to get more memory
[01:42] <wendico> ahhhh
[01:42] <Tongas> nonono
[01:42] <BlackX> matcouto, make a biger swap partition
[01:42] <Tongas> someone else said that lol ;p
[01:42] <wendico> lol
[01:42] <Random832> ok can someone tell me the magic words to make a persistent storage FILE (not partition) on a live usb stick?
[01:42] <Tongas> nono, I try to mount it using smbclient and my connection is refused, but I can access it perfectly with nautilus =p
[01:43] <wendico> i see, somebody will help you here
[01:43] <matcouto> BlackX: what size would be enough? what do ya reckon?
[01:43] <haha> I have slow network card ubuntu 10.04 , card works but not full speed live cd is 10 times faster connection, what do i do to fix this ?
[01:43] <Tongas> i mean, smbmount
[01:43] <Random832> i tried from everything i can find online and nothing worked
[01:43] <ariacus> how can i put a program in st
[01:43] <ariacus> art menu root?
[01:43] <wendico> obiously something u are doing wrongs since it works with nautilus :)
[01:43] <BlackX> matcouto,  what hdd do u have?
[01:43] <Tongas> yeah =/
[01:43] <edbian> matcouto, I think 1Gb swap is perfect.
[01:44] <matcouto> ArtArfon: Eclipse helps me a lot when developing java web app.
[01:44] <haha> card is pm965 inntel
[01:44] <wendico> im a linux learner so i cant help you, i dont even know what is smbmount tongas xddd
[01:44] <wendico> i still playing around with the look
[01:44] <osubuck_> god i hate waiting for new releases :(
[01:44] <BlackX> not enough
[01:44] <wendico> the look is what sells
[01:44] <Tongas> i know i know ;p
[01:44] <wendico> xddd
[01:44] <matcouto> BlackX: edbian it is 1gig already
[01:44] <Ken8521> osubuck_: it's not so bad... be a gamer!
[01:44] <Tongas> but at least I managed to get in to the machine heh thanks
[01:44] <Tongas> loll
[01:44] <edbian> matcouto, free -m is it full?
[01:44] <wendico> np
[01:44] <BlackX> not enough
[01:45] <ArtArfon> matcouto: I think its good for those who cant remember the function calls. But dumbs them down.
[01:45] <Tongas> which is why windows is winning =p
[01:45] <Tongas> so, uh, anybody have any idea?
[01:45] <Random832> anyone? anyone know what other channe l i could go in for help even?
[01:45] <wendico> but not for long xdd, im amazed with compiz fusion xddd
[01:46] <edbian> wendico, Compiz fusion is probably the single most popular package in all of linux (besides the kernel of course)
[01:46] <wendico> now i was trying cairo-dock wich is amazing aswell, i
[01:46] <BlackX> matcouto,  the swap is not sow fast as the ram
[01:46] <wendico> even better than mac taskbar
[01:46] <soreau> edbian: wendico: FWIW, its just called Compiz now
[01:46] <BlackX> u need at lest 2gb
[01:46] <soreau> the fusion part has been dropped
[01:46] <Tongas> ;p
[01:46] <matcouto> BlackX: of swap?
[01:46] <BlackX> yes
[01:46] <wendico> ahh okas, nice to know
[01:47] <Tongas> you know, I just prefer a good old terminal hehe ;p
[01:47] <Tongas> err, Ken8521 you started helping me before =p you have any idea? I try to mount windows with smbmount but it refuses my connection, however, with nautilus I can access the thing perfectly
[01:47] <wendico> i like a mix between click and write, but i need full animations to sell ubuntu to the rest of human beings xd
[01:48] <wendico> im so tired of being a microsoft not payed tecnician to my friends xd
[01:48] <Blue1> !md5sum
[01:48] <Ken8521> Tongas: sorry, i don't do samba.. i thought your question was about vnc/remote desktop
[01:48] <BlackX> matcouto,  if u have much memory u can make the swap of 4 o 8 gb
[01:48] <ArtArfon> Tongas: I love the graphical way of doing things.
[01:48] <Tongas> Ken8521: ahh, alright, thanks =p
[01:48] <edbian> wendico, If you get them to switch to Ubuntu you'll find you either do 1000% more work or 1000% less for them :)
[01:48] <matcouto> BlackX: I only have 2gb and 500gb HDD
[01:48] <Tongas> nonono, terminal is wayy better ;p
[01:48] <agggh> hello
[01:48] <edbian> matcouto, Only make your swap bigger if you need to.  free -m ;)
[01:48] <agggh> again
[01:49] <shauno> more swap isn't always a good thing.  especially when you start heading into silly amounts
[01:49] <wendico> edbian i hope is the 1000% less option xdddddd
[01:49] <Tongas> (I wouldn't buy yours hehe ;p)
[01:49] <ArtArfon> Tongas: And you have been using Linux for how many years and configured what servers ?
[01:49] <wendico> i repair about 5 windows pc per week almost for free
[01:49] <Tongas> shush
[01:49] <wendico> i hate it
[01:49] <Tongas> It just looks better heh =p
[01:49] <scott_ino> wendico, maybe you should charge more ;)
[01:49] <infinihate> I've been using Linux for negative one hour.
[01:49] <infinihate> :(
[01:49] <BlackX> matcouto,  u can make 8 gb of swap
[01:49] <Tongas> alright, I don't know anything heh but I still like to use it
[01:49] <ArtArfon> Tongas: Heh
[01:50] <agggh> in case anyone is interested.... the keyboard is connected via usb and reconnected... That seems to have fixed it
[01:50] <matcouto> BlackX: even having only 2gb ram ?
[01:50] <wendico> scott_ino the problem is that normally is family and friends, to dificut to charge
[01:50] <Ken8521> Tongas: thats an enthusiast in the making
[01:50] <wendico> the other ones i charge a lot belive me xd
[01:50] <agggh> So I can type "WEIRD" without using control-v
[01:50] <BlackX> yes
[01:50] <scott_ino> wendico, I know the feeling
[01:50] <BlackX> matcouto,  yes
[01:50] <Ken8521> agggh: are you saying you can type WEIRD, but not weird?
[01:50] <agggh> I just reconnected the keyboard and it works now
[01:51] <shauno> matcouto: I'd recommend looking at your VM settings, and seeing if it can run with less memory.  (eg, XP really doesn't need 1Gb).  That's going to be your single largest footprint right there
[01:51] <Tongas> heh, maybe, if I dedicate enough time =p
[01:51] <wendico> i want the at least the ones that just screw the computer by watching porn to switch to ubuntu but the flash player disadvantage.....
[01:51] <agggh> nope - I mean I can type WEIRD and weird - I just wanted to write it in capitals to add a  kind of emphasis to it.
[01:51] <BlackX> matcouto,  the xp can run with 192
[01:52] <Ken8521> Tongas: i would if i were you, you'll find after a couple of months, Ubuntu/Linux is just as easy as Windows, it's just different, and you have to learn it all oer again
[01:52] <|ntegra|> your weird hahaha
[01:52] <agggh> But I am still a bit nervous about it - because I have no idea what the strange looking progress bar was when I rebooted... before the log-in screen
[01:52] <zoe704> I have using it for a month now
[01:52] <scott_ino> wendico, flash disadvantage isn't as bad as years before
[01:52] <BlackX> matcouto,  the xp can run with 192 ram and 16 graphics
[01:52] <soreau> agggh: disk check?
[01:53] <|ntegra|> SUWOOOP BLOODGANG
[01:53] <agggh> yup... I hope so...
[01:53] <wendico> but it is very bad for the facebook players, porn watchers geeks
[01:53] <agggh> anyway - sorry for complaining so much
[01:53] <soreau> |ntegra|: Take it somewhere else please
[01:53] <wendico> is the only thing they use xdd
[01:53] <|ntegra|> YOOUR  MUM
[01:53] <soreau> ! ops | |ntegra|
[01:53] <matcouto> BlackX: shauno So if a resize the swap from 1gb to 4gb and changing the VM setting to a lower one, would it be better? or a still would need to run another lightweight desktop enviroment?
[01:53] <edbian> wendico, Ubuntu is great for geeks?
[01:54] <Tongas> Ken8521: heh, right, but my family shuns me for trying it though, so, I'm deciding =p
[01:54] <BlackX> matcouto,  yes
[01:54] <Tongas> but, uh, unless anybody has any idea, I gotta go, it's getting late here. so.. does anybody here know samba and can help me? =/
[01:54] <wendico> is great for people that do not updated their imposible to update pirated copies of windows with pirated antivirus
[01:54] <BlackX> matcouto,  with the gnome runs perfetly
[01:55] <wendico> wich are so infected that everithing is screw up after a few browses xddd
[01:55] <wendico> especially browsing porn
[01:55] <bazhang> wendico, stop that
[01:55] <soreau> wendico: That is enough
[01:55] <Tongas> lol mal wendico ;p
[01:55] <wendico> lol, soz
[01:55] <wendico> xddd
[01:55] <BlackX> matcouto,  what grephic card do you have?
[01:55] <Tongas> jajaja ;p
[01:56] <bazhang> wendico, offtopic elsewhere
[01:56] <wendico> i guess you malinterpret my words
[01:56] <wendico> sorry really
[01:56] <soreau> wendico: No one is misinterpreting. Say watching videos or movies instead
[01:56] <wendico> i meant ubuntu is so great that it will not screw up EVEN with that kind op people
[01:56] <wendico> ohh i see soreau
[01:57] <bazhang> wendico, its still offtopic. take it elsewhere
[01:57] <Tongas> right, well, that's me. see you, people
[01:57] <Tongas> (jaja, te retan todos wendico ;p)
[01:57] <Tongas> bye =)
[01:58] <matcouto> BlackX: It's an Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated
[01:59] <wendico> May i use apt-get install to reinstall and aplication? or i need to uninstallit first?
[01:59] <nozes> voltei lindos, fui na igreja, cheguei vi um pouco de restart na record, agora to aki no irc e comendo bolo de chocolate
[01:59] <BlackX> matcouto,  512?
[01:59] <ArtArfon> wendico: Get a friggin grip man, its all good :)
[01:59] <mae_tae> hello people
[01:59] <wayne_> HOWDY
[02:00] <wyang_> hello
[02:00] <mae_tae> people, i install ubuntu server 8.10, why i cannot update and install squid, whats wrong?
[02:01] <edbian> mae_tae, You installed the version from 2008.
[02:01] <wendico> wow, i used sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/gnome-panel && gnome-panel to restore my panels but now they are linked to the terminal screen i typed it so i cannot close it because it close my panels aswell, how do i run my panels permanently?
[02:01] <mae_tae> edbian, i see, so what does that mean, there's no support anymore?
[02:01] <edbian> wendico, gnome-panel&
[02:01] <zoe704> too old
[02:01] <wendico> edbian thank you
[02:01] <edbian> mae_tae, It means we won't help you and that those repos are no longer maintained.
[02:01] <wayne_> maybe you have to install ubuntu 10
[02:01] <ArtArfon> mae_tae: update to 10 ?
[02:01] <soreau> wendico: Just exit the terminal and it should restart automagically
[02:02] <ArtArfon> mae_tae: Why did you just install a very old version of ubuntu ?
[02:02] <soreau> wendico: Otherwise, append &disown to background the process and disown it from the terminal
[02:02] <matcouto> BlackX: hmm not sure. Let me check it out. just a sec
[02:02] <mae_tae> edbian, ArtArfon, ok thanks, so if i install the latest version, will i not find difficulty installing squid?
[02:02] <jyre> nickserve identify yessir5
[02:02] <wendico> soreau, done, thank you
[02:02] <ArtArfon> mae_tae: No
[02:02] <edbian> mae_tae, IDK what squid is.  You'll probably be fine
[02:03] <jyre> nickserv identify
[02:03] <soreau> jyre: Might want to change that password now ;)
[02:03] <jyre> NickServ identify
[02:03] <soreau> jyre: Try /j #freenode
[02:03] <mae_tae> ArtArfon, actually i just used it from the burned CD not knowing there is new version
[02:03] <jyre> sorry a portion of my screen was cut off, i didn't see the "/msg" portion of the sample commang
[02:04] <jyre> command*
[02:04] <shauno> mae_tae: there's no promises that a newer version will fix your problem, but it'll make it a lot easier for people to help if you're up-to-date
[02:04] <uLinux> [oidentd_inet_util.c:79:setup_bind] DEBUG: bind: Address already in use
[02:05] <BlackX> ppl there are ircops in here?
[02:05] <uLinux> bud?
[02:05] <twinkie_addict> thats why i like lts they get suport for longer period of time and tend to be more stable
[02:05] <Lanks> are there any network testing tools in/for ubuntu server that can be used to test ethernet ports?
[02:05] <wendico> soreau, wich was the pannel i installed channel to ask for help? i have many errors on install
[02:05] <mae_tae> People, i see, but do you think if i install version 10, was squid already part of the package? my problem is the source site from the source list i dont know how to do it
[02:05] <ArtArfon> mae_tae: Upgrade the dist.
[02:05] <soreau> wendico: #cairo-dock
[02:06] <wendico> soreau thank you
[02:06] <shauno> BlackX: generally if you need to talk to opers, #freenode is the place to be
[02:06] <Moargun> What is this place? :o
[02:07] <soreau> ! irc
[02:07] <mae_tae> people, when everytime we install ubuntu, will that Squid part of the package?
[02:07] <soreau> Moargun: Its the support channel for the Ubuntu operating system
[02:07] <Moargun> Ohcrap
[02:08] <Ken8521> lol
[02:08] <Ken8521> must have figured w/ 1300+ people here, something interesting was going on
[02:09] <FIReun> anyone running ubuntu on an Atom D525 + Nvidia ION?
[02:09] <shauno> mae_tae: squid isn't part of the default install, no.  either search the software center for it, or apt-get install squid
[02:09] <syafiqDotNet> ETA for maverick?
[02:09] <uLinux> !party
[02:09] <shauno> syafiqDotNet: within the next 24-ish hours.  there's never a set time, or set timezone.
[02:09] <Wizoz> Hi there! I installed the DirectX 9 using a Wine command trough terminal, does anybody know how to uninstall It?
[02:10] <syafiqDotNet> shauno thanks :)
[02:10] <|Anthony|> is there a multiseat function native to ubuntu?
[02:10] <renisss> I cant scan with my all-in-one printer,  its a EPSON Stylus CC7000F.....It can print but not scan..help!! I found the driver and installed it. But i cant scan.  I aslo tried simplescann and it said scanner not detected
[02:11] <ariacus> renisss: rtfm
[02:11] <pradeep_> today is 10-10-10
[02:11] <pradeep_> lol
[02:11] <Petrockstealer> 2010
[02:11] <blakkheim> not everywhere
[02:11] <Petrockstealer> hi
[02:11] <blakkheim> it's still the 9th for me
[02:12] <fracisco> hola
[02:12] <ariacus> who cares about u$a?
[02:12] <fracisco> como puedo poner adobe ne mi compu
[02:12] <Petrockstealer> do you speak the english?
[02:12] <ariacus> !es
[02:12] <fracisco> not  inglihs
[02:12] <renisss> rtfm = ? ariacus
[02:13] <ariacus> renisss: read the instruction that came with the driver
[02:13] <rww> !rtfm | ariacus
[02:13] <Petrockstealer> I cleaned my room today
[02:13] <rww> !ot | Petrockstealer
[02:13] <andai> mein ipod is being WEIRD. I tried adding tracks with gtkpod and now rhythmbox, both froze up and had sync_buffer in system monitor. Now it says ERROR ADDING TRACK; READ ONLY FILE SYSTEM
[02:14] <ariacus> rww: what does he expect? that we will configure his udev telepathetically? he has pdf where is written allhe has to know
[02:14] <Wizoz> Hi there! I installed the DirectX 9 using a Wine command trough terminal, does anybody know how to uninstall It?
[02:14] <g0tcha> hey guys, when is 10.10 is going to b released for download?
[02:14] <clean> 10 10
[02:15] <andai> 10 10 10? :D
[02:15] <clean> g0tcha: Otc.10th
[02:15] <ariacus> g0tcha: it already is, updAte apt cache
[02:15] <SamWeasley> GMT
[02:15] <phil_in_london> maybe should set title to "No kids, we're not there yet" :)
[02:15] <clean> andai: yeah:)
[02:15] <rww> !isitout
[02:15] <shauno> phil_in_london: it's kinda there already.  who reads that :/
[02:15] <phil_in_london> shauno, yeah, but maybe the words are too big :)
[02:16] <phil_in_london> personally, I'm not going to update, I have fear :-o
[02:16] <Petrockstealer> okay i am looking for a text-to-speech on edubuntu machine that couild read irc to me
[02:16] <mae_tae> people, can i ask last question again, because i was disconnected, is SQUID part already of the package of ubuntu server 10?
[02:16] <luw2> hi friends
[02:16] <chu> Petrockstealer: espeak
[02:17] <shauno> mae_tae: it's not.  it's easily installed with apt-get install squid  (or squid3, your choice)
[02:17] <Yeeha> hi
[02:17] <matcouto> BlackX: sorry for the delay
[02:17] <matcouto> it's a 256MB
[02:17] <ariacus> why my computer heats much when ubntu is running?
[02:17] <fomit4> begining
[02:18] <Wizoz> Can anybody suggest me some mmorpg for ubuntu which I can run on my EeePc 701 (very bad resources)? Does it exist any linux mmorpg?
[02:18] <Petrockstealer> um
[02:18] <renisss>  I just got UBUNTU 10.04 and not fimiliar with how to make my all in one in one printer to fully work....its important i get the scanner to work.. what pdf? where can i find it ?:ariacus
[02:18] <Petrockstealer> this is no fucking good
[02:18] <ariacus> Wizoz: no
[02:18] <MaverickOne> !language | Petrockstealer
[02:19] <Wizoz> ariacus: no= It does not exist?
[02:19] <ariacus> renisss: wherever you got the driver, should be readme file
[02:19] <Petrockstealer> what does that mean MaverickOne?
[02:19] <BlackX> matcouto, its ok
[02:19] <bazhang> Petrockstealer, no cursing
[02:19] <mae_tae> shauno, i see, but do you think that if type sudo apt-get install squid, it will install because yesterday although i install version 8.10, when i issue that command it seems the sites are not available
[02:19] <MaverickOne> Petrockstealer: it means do not swear please
[02:19] <Gnea> ariacus: some programs cause more geat than others
[02:19] <Gnea> ariacus: *heat
[02:19] <luw2> i have a fresh install of 10.04 and am missing printer utilities (should be under system> administration right?).  how can i install them?
[02:19] <phil_in_london> mae_tae, that is the point, those sources no longer exist for the old version.
[02:20] <Petrockstealer> dear god
[02:20] <mae_tae> ok, so thanks people, i got it
[02:20] <Gnea> !ubuntu | Petrockstealer
[02:20] <Petrockstealer> i must be trippin
[02:20] <ariacus> it heats just woith irc running and 2-3% cpu load, thatrs ridiculois
[02:20] <bazhang> Petrockstealer, stop that
[02:20] <Petrockstealer> Gnea what does that mean?
[02:20] <Petrockstealer> bahzag stop what?
[02:20] <Gnea> Petrockstealer: it means you don't know what we're about
[02:20] <Petrockstealer> I was getting to the issue
[02:21] <bazhang> Petrockstealer, being offtopic
[02:21] <Petrockstealer> I don't care what you're about
[02:21] <Petrockstealer> its not offtopic i was remarking
[02:21] <Gnea> you're about to care
[02:21] <Yeeha> my gnome session is a bit locked down. Windows don't show?
[02:21] <shauno> mae_tae: support for 8.10 ended in april, so it may not still be on all mirrors.  I'd recommend moving to 10.04 for a server, if you can, as it carries long-term-support (5 years, rather than 18 months).  which will avoid these issues for a good time :)
[02:21] <ariacus> 3 years
[02:22] <shauno> ariacus: 5 for -server, which was already specified
[02:22] <rafaelsoaresbr> how to edit fstab and give everybody write permission (ext2 file system)?
[02:22] <matcouto> BlackX: hmm there's something wrong. I'm remote accessing my computer at office to check these informations out and just figured out that there's no a swap partition on GParted app.
[02:23] <Kjeldor> help please. I had dual boot, win7 and ubuntu, I tried to remove UBUNTU so I tried to partition my drive on windows when installing win7, i was successful, but now when windows was installed on C, i couldnt find the other 30GB partition I made.. I havent formatted it yet.. so it doesnt show up on windows7... how do I do that now, without damaging the current OS installed
[02:23] <kool_aide> what is ssh?
[02:23] <BlackX> matcouto,  then make one
[02:24] <ariacus> Kjeldor: run do
[02:24] <seidos> !ssh | kool_aide
[02:24] <ariacus> sk management
[02:24] <BlackX> matcouto,  and make at lest 4 gb
[02:24] <Kjeldor> ariacus come again?
[02:25] <ariacus> Kjeldor: disk management should show it
[02:25] <Ken8521> Kjeldor: do you still have a live CD?
[02:25] <matcouto> BlackX: Ill make it 5gb
[02:25] <Ken8521> ariacus: not if it's a format windows can't see(ext2,3, 4 lvm, etc.)
[02:25] <Kjeldor> no i dont have
[02:25] <andai> iPod error: READ ONLY. What do i do?
[02:25] <Kjeldor> what should I do
[02:25] <ariacus> Ken8521: it will shw it as unknown artition then
[02:25] <Ken8521> Kjeldor: you're going to need to boot a Linux Live CD, and use Gparted or other partition editor, to format the drive to NTFS>
[02:26] <Ken8521> ariacus: dunno, it never showed for me.
[02:26] <BlackX> matcouto, 5 ... make it 6
[02:26] <rpenguin> is there any real point to waiting until tomorrow to download 10.10?
[02:26] <rww> rpenguin: probably not
[02:27] <shauno> rpenguin: last minute panics have happened before.  if you like to keep your hands clean, is safer to wait.  if you're an eager beaver, you're probably already running most of maverick :)
[02:27] <andril> are there any good online games for Ubuntu
[02:27] <Kjeldor> Ken8521 can you point me where to download a partition editor to format the drive to ntfs?
[02:28] <bigblackbag> use the pq software
[02:28] <Ken8521> Kjeldor: well, you can use PartedMagic, you can use Gparted, you can use almost any Ubuntu live CD...
[02:28] <rpenguin> but there should be some way to find out whether or not the release candidate has show stopper issues or not, no?
[02:28] <rpenguin> as of this point in time
[02:28] <ariacus> rpenguin: SHOWStopper issues never stopped a planned release
[02:28] <Ken8521> rpenguin: jus from using it hte past few weeks... only "show stopper" to me.. is Unity.. if you don't use it, you'll likely be fine
[02:29] <Yeeha> hey I need help repairing my system anybody
[02:29] <ariacus> !anybody
[02:29] <soreau> ! details
[02:30] <rpenguin> actually, it's always best, when joining #ubuntu, to first ask "does anyone here ever use linux?" before proceeding
[02:30] <Coded1> Nope
[02:30] <mae_tae> shauno, in every linux distro, does routing also is part of the system?
[02:31] <Yeeha> the new programs I start do not open windows
[02:31] <ikonia> rpenguin: no it's not
[02:31] <ariacus> mae_tae: depends on ernel
[02:31] <Yeeha> 10.04
[02:31] <rpenguin> ikonia: are you an android
[02:31] <ikonia> rpenguin: no
[02:32] <ariacus> i havean idiotic  popup "a serious krnel malfunction was detexted on your system"when i boot, wtf?
[02:32] <ikonia> !wtf > ariacus
[02:32] <mae_tae> ariacus, i see, but how about in ubuntu 10.04?
[02:32] <Squizz> sup
[02:32] <matcouto> BlackX: Done! [#ubuntu] BlackX: Done!
[02:32] <soreau> mae_tae: There is a program called route
[02:32] <matcouto> ops
[02:32] <Squizz> I got Banned from the party channel :(
[02:33] <rpenguin> ikonia: by any possible measure, it is entirely obvious that what I wrote was farce
[02:33] <ikonia> Squizz: yes, don't discuss it in here
[02:33] <ohmygod> oh my god
[02:33] <BlackX> matcouto,  how is it?
[02:33] <ohmygod> when is ubuntu 10.10 comin out
[02:33] <ikonia> rpenguin: then don't - help people or don't speak
[02:33] <ohmygod> its sunday already!
[02:33] <ohmygod> comeon
[02:33] <luw2>  i have a fresh install of 10.04 and am missing printer utilities (should be under system> administration right?).  how can i install them?
[02:33] <rpenguin> ikonia: jokes help people enjoy life
[02:33] <soreau> ! maverick | ohmygod
[02:33] <ikonia> ohmygod: please - this is a support channel
[02:33] <matcouto> BlackX: 6gb  linux-swap partition created.
[02:33] <rpenguin> ikonia: they can also illustrate points
[02:33] <ohmygod> what the hell! it is october 10th!
[02:33] <mae_tae> soreau, but can we execute like static route command
[02:34] <ohmygod> I WANT UBUNTU 10.10!
[02:34] <ikonia> rpenguin: please keep it to support.
[02:34] <ohmygod> ):
[02:34] <BlackX> matcouto,  in the vm u can make 192 of ram and 16Mb graphisc
[02:34] <ariacus> how to see whayt crashed once agin in godlike ubuntu
[02:34] <rpenguin> ikonia: socially broken
[02:34] <renisss> ok i tried to find it but the ubuntu finds the printer atomatically without me having to install anything, but I still can not scan :ariacus
[02:34] <jonathan> When will 10.10 be available?
[02:34] <BlackX> matcouto,  the run the xp and tell me how it works
[02:34] <Mathuin> !isitout
[02:34] <soreau> mae_tae: To do what?
[02:35] <phil_in_london> renisss, check your menu to see if you have a program called sane, if not, you'll want to install it.
[02:35] <ohmygod> WHERE IS THE DOWNLOAD URL TO UBUNTU 10.10
[02:35] <valros> Has anyone successfully used BTGuards VPN with Ubuntu 10.04? it seems to connect but I have no connectivity through it
[02:35] <Random832> ohmygod: the other 10 doesn't stand for the 10th, it stands for 2010
[02:35] <mae_tae> soreau, do route command like this route add -net ................
[02:35] <ariacus> renisss: you need a scanner driver as its notstandard devuce
[02:35] <bazhang> ohmygod, it s not done, lose the caps
[02:35] <ohmygod> I KNOW
[02:35] <shauno> I think at this point, I'll bow out for the night.  hopefully it'll look a little more sensible by 111010 :)
[02:35] <ohmygod> it's october 10th, 2010
[02:35] <matcouto> BlackX: will do it
[02:35] <thedark1> hello everyone. I tried to switch from ALSA/PulseAudio to OSS4 and broken my sound. I've gone to the forums and wikis but I am very confused... how can I complete the switch over to OSS4? I have no sound right now...
[02:35] <ohmygod> why cant i download
[02:35] <chu> thank you!
[02:36] <bigblackbag> can you tell me how to mange the software of ubuntu
[02:36] <Random832> shauno: october 10th 2011?
[02:36] <ikonia> !synaptic > bigblackbag
[02:36] <ariacus> bigblackbag: synaptic package maager
[02:36] <soreau> ! synaptic | bigblackbag
[02:36] <soreau> hm.
[02:36] <shauno> Random832: not how I order my dates, but if this place is sensible by then, I'll still consider it a victory :D
[02:37] <ariacus> noone ,entioned software center abortion)
[02:37] <ikonia> ariacus: ?
[02:37] <ariacus> how to know why i'm getting kernel malfucnrtion pupup on each login?
[02:37] <tucemiux> when you install 10.04, does the install ask you if you want to encrypt your home directory ??? Im using a laptop
[02:37] <Squizz> >people don't understand internation standard date format
[02:37] <kiall> Squizz: it should do
[02:38] <kiall> "standard date format" <-- you mean the "everyone but USA" format ;)
[02:38] <valros> Is there a known issue with the OpenVPN plugin for gnome's network manager with connectivity?
[02:38] <kiall> valros: that would be a big issue ;) I'm betting your doing something wrong on client or server
[02:39] <valros> I think it might be dd-wrt
[02:39] <russjr08> Hey, does anyone know of a terminal app where it will upload an image to a image hosting site and give me the link back?
[02:40] <bigblackbag> i can not change the brightness of my screen after updating the display card drive,can anyone give me advice?
[02:40] <vitorino> When 10.10 final will be released? 00:00?
[02:40] <bigblackbag> my display card is ati hd 4330
[02:40] <Seeker`> vitorino: when it is ready
[02:40] <bigblackbag> thanks
[02:40] <ikonia> vitorino: join #ubuntu-release-announce to see the annoucnemtn of when it' released
[02:41] <soreau> russjr08: Cairo-dock has an applet that you can drag an image on and it puts the link in your copy/paste buffer
[02:41] <soreau> not sure of a CLI version of it though
[02:41] <russjr08> thanks
[02:41] <chu> russjr08: I've seen some bash functions floting around that do what you're asking. If possible, check the "show your .bashrc" thread on UF, I think there'll be something in there.
[02:41] <vitorino> Seeker` or thanks by your thoughts, i guess that when it is ready is really a good time.
[02:41] <blakkheim> russjr08: imageshack-upload
[02:42] <vitorino> ikonia: thanks!
[02:43] <renisss> phil_in_london, i installed sane but it didnt show up in my programs
[02:43] <russjr08> blakkheim: where can I find imageshack-upload?
[02:43] <rjg_> Hi. I use GIMP quite a lot, but I've been really busy recently and did an update to my computer (Ubuntu, latest version), and now I get the following when I try to start the GIMP: Libgimp version mismatch! The GIMP binary cannot run with a libgimp version other than its own. This is GIMP 2.7.1, but the libgimp version is 2.7.2. Maybe you have GIMP versions in both /usr and /usr/local?  So what do I do now?
[02:44] <Yeeha> what is the squash fs for on a 10.04 live
[02:44] <tucemiux> rjg_, i would reinstall, that's the easy fix
[02:45] <rjg_> tucemiux: ok, I'll try that, brb
[02:45] <ae86-drifter> i am trying to install a dvb tuner and i keep getting this error: Missing files that required to build driver: /lib/modules/2.6.31-22-generic/source/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-common.h, i created a symlink so that it points to the kernel source from /usr/src but this dvb-usb/ folder only has Kconfig and Makefile only, please help me
[02:45] <z00m> how to i run something in the bkground like when linux starts up
[02:45] <valros> What would be the reason that dd-wrt micro cannot support the OpenVPN protocol?
[02:46] <z00m> im trying to make it so g15stats runs on boot
[02:46] <phil_in_london> renisss, go to your synaptic and install xsane, that'll give you a graphical front end for sane.
[02:46] <Solnce> LINUX MUST DIE - WINDOWS XP FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:46] <chu> z00m: What do you mean by starts up? Once you login to GNOME?
[02:46] <z00m> chu yeah
[02:46] <blakkheim> lol
[02:46] <liqiming> 00
[02:46] <tucemiux> valros, dont know, this is kinda ubuntu support
[02:46] <z00m> its an app for my keyboard
[02:46] <z00m> g15stats
[02:46] <Quantum_Ion> lol
[02:46] <phil_in_london> valros, why not switch to openwrt
[02:46] <xangua> rjg_: i believe gimp 2.7 is not even stable, how did you install it¿
[02:46] <chu> z00m: Have you tried adding it to "System->Preferences->Startup Applications"
[02:47] <z00m> no but thanks ill look there now
[02:47] <rjg_> xangua: no idea, really..... I put it on here aaages ago, I guess.
[02:47] <matcouto> BlackX: Testing from remote access would not make much sense, it would be slower due to that connection and so. We're on a long weekend here, so going to test it only on next wednesday, anyways Thank you for your help and time.
[02:47] <cycrosism> How come my wifi always disconnects and when I go to reconnect it takes a long time (around 1 minute) then asks me to enter the password again and keeps repeating?
[02:47] <ariacus> how to know why i'm getting kernel malfucnrtion pupup on each login?!
[02:47] <ae86-drifter> ls
[02:47] <ikonia> ariacus: what version of ubuntu ?
[02:47] <cycrosism> And when I enter the password it just waits for more then a minute and asks me to enter the password again
[02:47] <BlackX> matcouto,  np
[02:48] <ariacus> ikonia: lts
[02:48] <BlackX> matcouto,  your welcome
[02:48] <Mathuin> cycrosism: sounds like you've got the password wrong.
[02:48] <ikonia> ariacus: what kernel, what error,
[02:48] <z00m> chu is there anyway i can run it now from a terminal and breakaway from that terminal without the app stopping ?
[02:48] <cycrosism> Mathuin: Nope, I entered it correctly more then 5 times
[02:48] <Mathuin> cycrosism: that's the only time it's happened to me...
[02:48] <Yeeha> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:48] <cycrosism> Mathuin: And it still asks me to enter the password and just keeps waiting to connect
[02:48] <ikonia> Yeeha: please don't do that
[02:48] <sms_> How do I get ext4 without journaling for my SSD?
[02:48] <cycrosism> I never have these problems on windows
[02:49] <Yeeha> nobody answers my question
[02:49] <chu> z00m: You launch it in a terminal, and the terminal closes after starting?
[02:49] <Mathuin> Yeeha: it happens to me all the time as well.  Patience and respect help me a little. ;-)
[02:49] <z00m> yea or i can close it
[02:49] <ae86-drifter> could someone please help me with my dvb drivers
[02:49] <shauno> rjg_: gimp and libgimp are both at 2.6.10 in maverick, and 2.6.8 in lucid.  I'd either try to clean out your 2.7, or figured out where it came from and get updated packages
[02:50] <Coded1> I'm running 10.10 live cd. When I try to get a desktop rather than installing it tells me the unity drivers cannot be found and drops me to a login screen. What's the default username / pass?
[02:50] <renisss> phil_in_london, I installed xsane and sane  and i get this message "no device available" when i run xsane, my all-in-one printer is on.
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> sms_: I believe you use 'tune2fs' to disable journalling.
[02:50] <cycrosism> Mathuin: So any solution to this problem? Or should I just install windows
[02:50] <l32007> !isitout
[02:50] <z00m> i know there is a command to run something that runs it in the bkground then hands control back to the user on the terminal
[02:50] <ariacus> ikonia: how can I know that, it just asks to seend something to somewhere, kerenl is 2.6.32-24
[02:50] <z00m> @chu
[02:50] <Yeeha> I need help repairing the squashfs on my ubu live 10.04 session
[02:50] <ikonia> ariacus: make a note of the error
[02:50] <cycrosism> Because these wifi problems only exist when I use ubuntu
[02:50] <MaverickOne> ae86-drifter: install libdvb-dev and try compiling again
[02:50] <Mathuin> cycrosism: If you know, absolutely know, you've got the correct encryption type (WEP or WPA) and password, file a bug.
[02:50] <phil_in_london> renisss, have you checked with your manufacturer, see if they have a linux driver available?
[02:51] <sdsheeks> hello...what do you guys use for a development editor?  I was thinking something terminal based but can't land on one..emacs/vim etc?
[02:51] <renisss> phil_in_london. yes i checked there is none
[02:51] <cycrosism> Mathuin: I know I have the correct WPA key, I even made it show my password and I read over it 3 times
[02:51] <ariacus> ikonia: it's a popup in taskbar, it asks for password but not show error, where xcan I find text etc?
[02:51] <ae86-drifter> MaverickOne okay i'll try
[02:51] <chu> z00m: I'm not understand sorry, are you launching the application from a script?
[02:51] <ikonia> ariacus: check the syslog
[02:51] <Coded1> Emacs!!!!
[02:51] <Mathuin> cycrosism: do you see *anything* in the logs that tells you what's wrong?
[02:51] <ikonia> ariacus: has it always done this, or just started
[02:51] <shauno> sdsheeks: careful, wars have been fought over lesser queries ;)
[02:51] <chu> sdsheeks: Yeah, give emacs a go.
[02:51] <cycrosism> Mathuin: Where can I see the logs
[02:51] <q_plaz> @sdsheeks - Aptana Studio
[02:51] <soreau> Yeeha: If you have a system that is that broken, you probably should back up any data and reinstall
[02:51] <sdsheeks> shauno, oh...sorry just wanted some input
[02:51] <ariacus> i don't know but see it for 2 boot now
[02:52] <ae86-drifter> MaverickOne, libdvb-dev was already installed
[02:52] <cycrosism> Mathuin: I don't see any dropped packets or errors
[02:52] <Mathuin> cycrosism: /var/log is where they're at, wpa_supplicant.*.log will probably have what we need.
[02:52] <shauno> sdsheeks: nothing to be sorry about, it's half in jest.  but I believe vi/ed vs emacs is older than I am, and will probably outlast me
[02:52] <MaverickOne> ae86-drifter: don't know what to tell you :/
[02:52] <Mathuin> cycrosism: let me boot my netbook and see the logs that are created by a successful network connection.
[02:52] <z00m> chu, no if i run g15stats from a terminal prompt, it runs in the terminal and i have to leave that terminal open in order for it to stay active. but im wanting to be able to close the terminal and the program remains running in the background. if that makes any sence.
[02:53] <ariacus> sys log is what dmsg prints?
[02:53] <chu> z00m: Try running g15stats &
[02:53] <z00m> thats it :D
[02:53] <sdsheeks> shauno, well I grew up in the 70's so..i have to be close
[02:53] <z00m> &
[02:53] <Mathuin> shauno: I've been an emacs user since my machine only had 4M of RAM, but I learned to appreciate vi and even the Eclipse editor.
[02:53] <z00m> i knew there was somthing
[02:53] <z00m> thanks
[02:53] <chu> z00m: Heh, sorry I didn't understand you :)
[02:53] <phil_in_london> renisss, hp ?
[02:53] <Yeeha> @zoom background is the ampersand &
[02:53] <Blue1> !hashes
[02:53] <sdsheeks> My first PC was a coco 2
[02:53] <matts45acp> can someone please give me some help installing my wireless adapter
[02:54] <q_plaz> Garr. Live CD not working for 10.04. Tried on 2 computers now
[02:54] <sdsheeks> hooked it up to a TV..no HD but it did have a tape recorder :)
[02:54] <Samoi> matts45acp, what is the make / model?
[02:54] <Yeeha> @zoom command &
[02:54] <sdsheeks> that was in the 80's I think
[02:54] <chu> sdsheeks: Have you used emacs before? If not, I can send you a rather in-depth cheat sheet, if you'd be interested.
[02:54] <z00m> chu one more thing
[02:54] <Mathuin> cycrosism: you may not be logging to /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log, check /var/log/syslog for wpa_supplicant and NetworkManager messages.
[02:54] <renisss> phil_in_london, its a Epson Stylus CX7000F , all in one,   and i can print but not scan
[02:54] <sdsheeks> chu, I have used it but for editing one file..never as a development platform so yea send away
[02:54] <sdsheeks> chu, and thanks!
[02:54] <z00m> how do i find out the process id of whats running in the background
[02:55] <q_plaz> lsof -i
[02:55] <z00m> ok and i close via kill ?
[02:55] <cycrosism> Mathuin: What do I look for in the logs
[02:55] <z00m> kill "id number"
[02:55] <z00m> ???
[02:55] <chu> z00m: yes
[02:55] <phil_in_london> renisss, been here yet? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
[02:56] <ae86-drifter> does anybody know anything about USB DVB cards?
[02:56] <renisss> phil_in_london, is there a way to install the windows driver on wine and have the printer work through wine?
[02:56] <Mathuin> cycrosism: Look for lines with "wpa_supplicant" or "NetworkManager" in them.  On my system, it starts the connection automatically, then says "access point 'Auto myaccess' has security, but secrets are required.", then starts configuring.  Eventually it tries to associate and succeeds.
[02:56] <nobarking> hi, will we be seeing Firefox 4 in Ubuntu 10.10?
[02:56] <Mathuin> Here I see stuff like "WPA: Key negotiation completed".
[02:57] <z00m> is there anyway i can make a new command for lsof -i
[02:57] <renisss> phil_in_london, yeah i tried what i could find there but it didnt work
[02:57] <z00m> so i can just put bgapps or sumit
[02:57] <phil_in_london> renisss, not that I know of. I've been lucky, every printer I've ever installed worked out of the box. But as you see from that list, looks like everything is fully supported except epson.
[02:57] <Mathuin> nobarking: according to Wikipedia, Ubuntu 10.10 will have Firefox 3.6.10.  Ask in #ubuntu+1 to know for sure.
[02:57] <ae86-drifter> I really need some help please, my kernel source is missing some files needed to compile it
[02:57] <phil_in_london> renisss, are you using it via usb?
[02:57] <ae86-drifter> i think...
[02:57] <tonyyarusso> !info firefox maverick | nobarking, Mathuin
[02:57] <z00m> bgapps = lsof -i
[02:57] <z00m> u know what i mean
[02:58] <renisss> phil_in_london, yes its usb
[02:58] <Mathuin> tonyyarusso: that's a sweet command, thanks!
[02:58] <q_plaz> zoom: yes
[02:58] <wktian> my stardick don't work
[02:58] <Yeeha> anybody knows how to fix squashfs on 10.04live?
[02:58] <q_plaz> i also lets it show the ports it uses
[02:58] <phil_in_london> renisss, try a network install.
[02:58] <Mathuin> !info wine maverick
[02:58] <cannabisgood> has anyone else seen after the most recent upgrades, it takes away all buttons on the panels
[02:58] <cannabisgood> except the trash can
[02:58] <nobarking> do you guys recommend i upgrade to maverick or do a clean installation?
[02:58] <cannabisgood> but everything else is gone
[02:58] <xangua> !panels | cannabisgood
[02:59] <cannabisgood> thanks
[02:59] <Doyle> nobarking: without a good reason a clean install is always recommended. Do you have a reason not to?
[02:59] <clean> nobarking: I prefer clean
[02:59] <shauno> nobarking: I think it's mostly personal taste.  I like the new-car smell of a fresh install, but upgrade shouldn't have any issues
[02:59] <ariacus> i see nothing suspicious in the lofg
[02:59] <nobarking> Doyle: nope, i'm comfortable importing most the system setting files
[02:59] <chu> z00m: Have you tried bash scripting before?
[02:59] <Loshki> nobarking: clean installs almost always lead to fewer problems, but you've nothing to lose by trying an upgrade first. If it fails, then do a clean install. Either way, back up your current, working system before you start...
[03:00] <ae86-drifter> ive learned from experience never to use ubuntu upgrades, it will fuck ur install half the time
[03:00] <z00m> q_plaz, what im trying to do is instead of having to type lsof -i which is a pain in the ass to remember, is it possible for me to make a new command that will call lsof -i up ? for example when i type bgapps it gives me the output from the lsof -i command.
[03:00] <Loshki> ariacus: love the 'new car smell' idea...
[03:00] <clean> Loshki: agree
[03:00] <chu> z00m: Mind if I PM you?
[03:00] <z00m> chu im noob to all this
[03:00] <MaverickOne> !language | ae86-drifter
[03:00] <nobarking> is there a way to automatically import ~/. settings while doing a clean install?
[03:00] <shauno> z00m: look to see if you have 'pidof' installed; it does just that
[03:00] <MaverickOne> !language | z00m
[03:00] <z00m> yeah sure pm me.
[03:00] <nobarking> from the Ubuntu installer i mean?
[03:00] <xangua> nobarking: make you home in a diferent partition
[03:01] <renisss> phil_in_london, does that mean i have to connect it to my router, my router does not have usb, does that mean i have to buy a wireless usb thing so my printer can connect to router
[03:01] <phil_in_london> renisss, I'm not even saying it would work for sure. Does your printer not have an ethernet port?
[03:01] <clean>  nobarking, it's won't erase the data in /home
[03:01] <Loshki> shauno: Oops. Mean this for you: love the 'new car smell' idea...
[03:02] <renisss> phil_in_london, no it only has usb ports
[03:02] <clean> make /home as a independent partition is safe
[03:02] <phil_in_london> reniss, see anything at  http://localhost:631/printers/
[03:02] <ae86-drifter> MaverickOne do u have any other ideas at all for my dvb tuner,
[03:02] <ae86-drifter> please
[03:03] <MaverickOne> ae86-drifter: sorry i don't.
[03:03] <nothingspecial> z00m: You put aliases in your .bashrc alias easy_word='big_ hard_ to remember command'
[03:03] <ariacus> how tomakr uyser to change password n login?
[03:03] <Loshki> ae86-drifter: try the mythtv-users guys. They know tons about tv cards and linux...
[03:03] <LJRuff> At what time will Ubuntu 10.10 be released?
[03:03] <ae86-drifter> Loshki, thanks, thats a good idea..
[03:04] <tonyyarusso> ariacus: sudo passwd -e someusername will make them change it the next they log in on a terminal at least; I have no idea how it works in a graphical environment.
[03:04] <tonyyarusso> LJRuff: before midnight on the tenth in @Pacific/Pago_pago
[03:04] <ariacus> why would someone login in terminal in 2011?
[03:04] <sdsheeks> ariacus, lots of reasons
[03:05] <tonyyarusso> ariacus: I do it every day.
[03:05] <sdsheeks> brb
[03:05] <asdgh> tonyyarusso, i'm not anxious about it, but i'd like to know - what is the critery to establish the new release time?
[03:05] <Killaklown> hi
[03:05] <LJRuff> tonyyarusso, =(
[03:05] <Killaklown> whassup guys
[03:05] <Eighteens> i'm using 10.04, I was wondering if upgrading to 10.10 has any significant ugrades, because i'm totally happy with 10.04
[03:05] <D3luSi0n4L> Hey all, anyone know the best web text editor? Looking for something similar to notepad++?
[03:05] <tonyyarusso> asdgh: Whenever the release manager decides everything's shipshape.
[03:05] <blakkheim> D3luSi0n4L: vim
[03:05] <asdgh> (i'm totaly happy with 10.04 too!)
[03:05] <Killaklown> yeah vim
[03:05] <Killaklown> gvim
[03:05] <tonyyarusso> Eighteens: see the release notes for the Release Candidate.
[03:05] <D3luSi0n4L> VIM?
[03:05] <blakkheim> not gvim, just vim
[03:05] <D3luSi0n4L> what should i search in the software center?
[03:06] <D3luSi0n4L> jsut vim?
[03:06] <Killaklown> hey whats the deal with nvidia drivers for 10.04+... I cant seem to get them to work right
[03:06] <Killaklown> ???
[03:06] <blakkheim> D3luSi0n4L: a version of vim is preinstalled with the os, but it's the "tiny" version
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> D3luSi0n4L: Honestly, I normally use gedit.  Other popular ones are geany, scite, bluefish
[03:06] <Loshki> ariacus: the main reason is because of a slow connection...
[03:06] <Duality> I use gedit myself, scite is another good one
[03:06] <D3luSi0n4L> hmm alright since there all similar, any with a nice user interface?
[03:06] <D3luSi0n4L> I like macish interfaces
[03:06] <Duality> notepad++ is based around scintilla - and scite is the linux implementation of that, as far as i am aware
[03:07] <blakkheim> lol
[03:07] <D3luSi0n4L> i dunno if that makes sense but lol
[03:07] <pradeep> artafon hi
[03:07] <Killaklown> anyone having problems with nvidia drivers?
[03:07] <blakkheim> D3luSi0n4L: vim is maybe too complicated for you then
[03:07] <Killaklown> my video looks jacked
[03:07] <Mathuin> Killaklown: I'm not having trouble, and I'm using somewhat bleeding edge drivers.
[03:07] <dorgan> ok maybe someone can help me.....i'm trying to setup tomcat...have never done it before...i installed it via apt...but when i try to go to: http://localhost:8080/manager/html    I get a 404...or any other link on the main page for that matter
[03:07] <Killaklown> Mathuin, where u get ur drivers from?
[03:08] <Killaklown> Mathuin, ubuntu's repo?
[03:08] <soreau> ! u
[03:08] <step21> D3luSi0n4L, use nano
[03:08] <phil_in_london> reniss, you should look at http://www.sane-project.org/sane-backends.html#SCANNERS    although it may upset you.
[03:08] <clean> code1, ubuntu:ubuntu
[03:08] <D3luSi0n4L> hmm ok ill check it out
[03:08] <ariacus> so anyone can say me how gdm deals with expired passwords??
[03:08] <D3luSi0n4L> thanks step21
[03:09] <Mathuin> Killaklown: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu lucid
[03:09] <Mathuin> That's the repo I have in Synaptic.
[03:09] <Killaklown> why that one?
[03:09] <D3luSi0n4L> nano? i searched "nano" in the software center and nothing
[03:09] <Killaklown> instead of the built in nvidia proprietary drivers?
[03:09] <Mathuin> Killaklown: I was trying to determine if the problems I was seeing in Civilization V via Steam were due to drivers or not.
[03:10] <asdgh> Does Civ V work on Linux ???
[03:10] <Killaklown> Mathuin, when I book I get like a scrambled, garbled screen
[03:10] <Killaklown> *boot
[03:10] <D3luSi0n4L> step21: do you know where I can find "nano"?
[03:10] <blakkheim> D3luSi0n4L: it is installed by default
[03:10] <ae86-drifter> isnt nano default
[03:10] <ariacus> D3luSi0n4L: apt-get install nano
[03:10] <jamesbrink> after compiling and installing something from source how do i uninstall it? i thought i have used stuff like make uninstall or make deinstall in the past
[03:10] <jamesbrink> is there a way to show the make options?
[03:11] <jamesbrink> are they defined in the make file?
[03:11] <D3luSi0n4L> where would i find it if its installed? i looked through applications and cant find it
[03:11] <blakkheim> !enter | jamesbrink
[03:11] <ariacus> jamesbrink: press tab after make
[03:11] <blakkheim> D3luSi0n4L: just type "nano" in a terminal
[03:11] <marsfligth> when will be available Maverik?
[03:11] <Mathuin> Killaklown: wow, that sucks.  You might want to disable them and try the other drivers.
[03:11] <ariacus> marsfligth: already is
[03:11] <Mathuin> Can you boot into console mode?
[03:11] <jamesbrink> ariacus: that just lists the make files?
[03:12] <D3luSi0n4L> lol step21 was that a joke?
[03:12] <ariacus> jamesbrink: it should list all targets defined in ./Makefile
[03:12] <D3luSi0n4L> I asked for one with an interface and nano runs in terminal? lol
[03:12] <blakkheim> D3luSi0n4L: you don't need anything more than that for text editing
[03:12] <Tree-House> Hi everyone
[03:12] <ariacus> D3luSi0n4L: use geaNY
[03:12] <ae86-drifter> D3luSi0n4L, it has a "text" interface
[03:12] <Mathuin> D3luSi0n4L: have you tried 'gedit'?
[03:12] <renisss> phil_in_london, why would making it a network printer work any better?
[03:12] <Tree-House> Anyone think they could give me a hand using wine to get StarCraft 2 to work
[03:12] <jamesbrink> ariacus: you are right my bad
[03:12] <D3luSi0n4L> i know but i prefer a html editor to have an interface
[03:13] <ariacus> do u
[03:13] <D3luSi0n4L> ariacus: mathiun: no ill check thoes out, thank you
[03:13] <ae86-drifter> D3luSi0n4L, try gPHPedit thats wat i use
[03:13] <shauno> D3luSi0n4L: editors are highly subjective; usually when you ask someone for a recommendation, they'll give you their preference.  it's usually better to just try every one you can find until you find one that fits just right
[03:13] <jamesbrink> ariacus: i was typing make space then tab =/
[03:14] <Tree-House> Anychance anyone could give me a hand with WINE?
[03:14] <step21> D3luSi0n4L, no. it is easier to use then vim, if you need a terminal/console editor
[03:14] <blakkheim> !wine > Tree-House
[03:14] <marsfligth> ariacus: I gone on ubuntu.com right now, but there is only "Download Release Candidate". Probabilly becose I am using an italian IP
[03:14] <jamesbrink> do you guys know the irc command to silence people who are comming and going ?
[03:14] <ariacus> marsfligth: if you update RC now it will be release
[03:14] <blakkheim> jamesbrink: it depends on your irc client
[03:14] <chu> jamesbrink: Do you use irssi?
[03:15] <jamesbrink> oh okay i was thinking it was an irc command, and no im using empathy at the moment
[03:15] <edbian> How can I make my x-chat input window bigger than one line?
[03:15] <blakkheim> edbian: maybe try #xchT
[03:15] <blakkheim> #xchat*
[03:15] <Mathuin> Hrm.  What's the best way to determine whether I should be using the AMD64 build of Ubuntu instead of the 32-bit?
[03:15] <ariacus> how can I remove package from repository? doo I nned to contact debian first orubuntu-specific address wxists?
[03:15] <blakkheim> Mathuin: "should be" is up to you
[03:16] <edbian> Mathuin, 64 bit arch only purpose is to allow more than ~3.5Gb of ram
[03:16] <ChogyDan> ariacus: have you filed a bug report?
[03:16] <Mathuin> edbian: I have 4G installed, hmm.
[03:16] <edbian> Mathuin, Then you should use amd64
[03:16] <ariacus> ChogyDan: what should I write there?
[03:16] <chu> edbian: It does a bit more, but that's what's useful for a non-systems developer.
[03:16] <sanduz2> why does Canonical support Empathy instead of Pidgin?
[03:17] <marsfligth> ariacus: I tried right now and the man site its offering this 'ubuntu-10.10-rc-desktop-i386.iso'
[03:17] <ChogyDan> ariacus: what package is it?
[03:17] <shauno> a PAE kernel will handle 4Gb in 32bit too.  64 is more future-proofing at the moment
[03:17] <Mathuin> edbian: will that impact my user experience (i.e., Chrome, Flash, Eclipse) ?
[03:17] <blakkheim> Mathuin: possibly
[03:17] <Ken8521> sanduz2: i think cuz empathy is a gnome app
[03:17] <ChogyDan> sanduz2: both are supported.  Empathy is the gnome default
[03:17] <Cordell> couldnt you have a 32 ubuntu desktop with PAE kernel installed?
[03:17] <edbian> Mathuin, not in a noticable way I'll bet (but you won't be using all of your ram)
[03:17] <sanduz2> oh because i think Empathy kinda sucks...
[03:17] <edbian> chu, yeah yeah, 64 bit ints I get it ;)
[03:17] <sanduz2> wish Pidgin was default
[03:17] <edbian> sanduz2, Just install pidgin.  It's really not a huge deal
[03:18] <sanduz2> k
[03:18] <jamesbrink> typing make<tab> still does not show make install or any uninstall targets
[03:18] <edbian> Cordell, Yeah I think you can do that.
[03:18] <renisss> ariacus: do you know if i can install the windows printer driver on wine and use the printer through wine, cause there is no other way for me to scan through this printer
[03:18] <ariacus> it doesnt matter actually, but it dead upstream and not popular
[03:18] <ae86-drifter> shauno, if i have exactly 4GB, 32bit, i should use standard kernel right
[03:19] <moetunes> !pae
[03:19] <edbian> ae86-drifter, You will only get access to 3.5~Gb of ram if you don't use PAE or 64bit Ubuntu
[03:19] <shauno> ae86-drifter: I think that's a case for PAE too, as the line isn't bang-on 4Gb - that's just a convenient number
[03:19] <edbian> 3.2!
[03:19] <ChogyDan> ariacus: well, I guess you should file a bug report in debian if that is where it is packaged
[03:19] <Tree-House> PKILL
[03:19] <edbian> I stand corrected
[03:20] <pradeep> Artafon you there
[03:20] <shauno> the actual number will vary from machine to machine, it's 2^32-(your VGA aperture).  so it'll vary depending how monstrous your video card is   (as your video card's memory lives within the same address space, even if physically separate)
[03:20] <ae86-drifter> ok cool, maybe the latest kernel source will fix my dvb issues  too... :
[03:20] <terry> ! broadcom wl
[03:20] <Mathuin> !info rt2860 maverick
[03:21] <JackStoner> how do i permanently add an alias in ubuntu lucid??
[03:21] <blakkheim> JackStoner: .bashrc
[03:21] <terry> !broadcom wl
[03:22] <JackStoner> blakkheim: thanks...
[03:24] <pradeep> how do i reconnect with someone how i was having a pirvate chat with but he his no longer in the room
[03:24] <matts45acp> can someone please give me some help installing my wireless adapter
[03:24] <terry> !info broadcom wl maverick
[03:24] <Ken8521> matts45acp: whats the adapter?
[03:25] <edbian> matts45acp, yeah I suppose I can.
[03:25] <edbian> matts45acp, sudo iwlist scan.  What does it output?
[03:26] <D3luSi0n4L> anyone use bluefish?
[03:28] <sms_> I'm expanding a partition in my harddrive to take up the whole drive with gparted, should I check or uncheck the "round to cylinders" option?
[03:28] <ariacus> how can I my sound not to stutter?
[03:29] <muellisoft> ariacus: that sentence no verb
[03:29] <spinningcompass> Muelli: "Can".
[03:30] <spinningcompass> ariacus: Increase buffer size, or increase RAM, or reduce the CPU load, .... It depends.
[03:30] <Death__> hey im running ubuntu 10.10 and want to hok up my tv as a second display but cant figure out why its not working it reads the tv but wont actually put anything on it
[03:30] <edbian> sms_, It won't make any discernible difference to you
[03:30] <ae86-drifter> sms_ flip a coin
[03:30] <edbian> Death__, Plug in the TV, then turn the computer on.
[03:30] <ariacus> spinningcompass: buffer sie of what and how?
[03:30] <sms_> haha, ok.. I'd just like to know the difference
[03:31] <edbian> Muelli, to is a verb!
[03:31] <Death__> edbian: so i should restart my comp?
[03:31] <edbian> Death__, That's what I suggest, yes
[03:31] <nick383> I have a qick ubuntu question
[03:31] <Death__> edbian: sorry lol just making sure thx ill brb
[03:31] <nick383> can any one help?
[03:31] <edbian> nick383, You are in the perfect place.
[03:31] <edbian> !ask
[03:31] <nick383> awsome thanks
[03:31] <edbian> Death__, sure
[03:31] <kujablak> just ask you'll see
[03:32] <megatronn>  i am going to do a fresh install, how can I import my ppa list from lucid???
[03:33] <Blue1> unetbootin didn't work, anything else to try?
[03:33] <bazhang> Blue1, works fine here
[03:33] <nick383> I have awd elite that i have attached to my pc running ubuntu.  I can share (with correct permissions) it out and other pc's can see it but when they try to access it i get access denied.  When i look at the permissions on the folders they are correct, but when i look at the top level i get pemissions are undeterminable
[03:34] <bazhang> megatronn, you dont. you get the PPA of the new version after the install
[03:34] <Blue1> bazhang: well I have tried, it, and someone else has tried it (windows) and neither of us could boot of the flash drive.
[03:34] <bazhang> Blue1, sounds like you need to md5 the iso and re-'burn'
[03:34] <Blue1> !usb
[03:35] <megatronn> bazhang, ???? if i do a fresh install removing lucid, my ppas will be deleted right?
[03:35] <rww> megatronn: they'll be commented out, not deleted. they're still there but inactive
[03:35] <matts45acp> can someone please give me some help installing my wireless adapter
[03:35] <kevin__> Is there a bug as to why Gwibber doesn't connect to facebook properly?
[03:36] <tonyyarusso> kevin__: Yeah, it's called "Facebook".
[03:36] <megatronn> rww, uhm are you sure? doing a fresh install won't delete anything?
[03:36] <rww> oh, fresh install. i thought you said upgrade, sorry.
[03:36] <megatronn> rww, no, for fresh install
[03:36] <Death__> edbian:  it is sending a signal to my tv but its not showing anything.. its all black
[03:37] <nick383> does any one hace any ideas about issue i posted?
[03:37] <kevin__> tonyyarusso: funny.
[03:37] <bazhang> megatronn, of course a fresh install
[03:37] <moetunes> !xrandr | Death__
[03:37] <Mathuin> After I do my fresh install, I'm going to want to install the same packages I currently have.  What's the canonical way to handle this situation?  Some apt-get command that lists my packages, then 'xargs apt-get install < /tmp/packagelist' ?
[03:38] <bazhang> !clone | Mathuin
[03:38] <matts45acp> can someone please give me some help installing my wireless adapter
[03:38] <Death__> edbian: k thx ill check it out
[03:38] <Mathuin> bazhang: thanks!
[03:38] <nick383> whats the problem with the wireless?
[03:38] <abelundercity> I think my install of 10.04 has become corrupted.  Is there a way to fix it via the live cd?
[03:39] <matts45acp> i want to use my usb wireless not the internal card
[03:39] <megatronn> bazhang, i think you are exactly getting my point. I have added third party PPAs to install apps not available in repostories. Now I want to do a fresh install wiping my hard disk partition. But before that I want to make a backup of PPA list. How to do that???
[03:39] <nick383> ok is the usb not being rec?
[03:39] <megatronn> not*
[03:39] <bazhang> megatronn, this is for a fresh install of maverick 10.10?
[03:40] <matts45acp> well i need to set it all up
[03:40] <matts45acp> im new to this
[03:40] <megatronn> bazhang, yaps, I said that nearly 5 times :)
[03:40] <bazhang> !wifi > matts45acp
[03:40] <nick383> ok so am i but I was able to get my usb nic to install
[03:40] <Blue1> should unetbootin make a bootable flash drive, or do I need to make it bootable following:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[03:40] <nick383> Im trying to get a question answred as well
[03:41] <Jordan_U> Blue1: Unetbootin will make a bootable flash drive.
[03:41] <bazhang> megatronn, I'd wait then; an option in 10.10 is to not delete your /home directory, and there is a new repo called extras.ubuntu.com with all new apps that may supercede some of those PPA
[03:41] <Blue1> Jordan_U: two of us have tried using windows, and no joy.
[03:41] <nick383> I think I googled how get ubuntu "drives" for my nic
[03:41] <Tree-House> Can anyone give me a hand installing a program using Wine?
[03:42] <bazhang> Tree-House, check the appdb and /join #winehq
[03:42] <bazhang> !appdb | Tree-House
[03:42] <abelundercity> I think my install of 10.04 has become corrupted.  Is there a way to fix it via the live cd?
[03:43] <ae86-drifter> i am trying to install a dvb tuner and i keep getting this error: Missing files that required to build driver: /lib/modules/2.6.31-22-generic/source/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-common.h, i created a symlink so that it points to the kernel source from /usr/src but this dvb-usb/ folder only has Kconfig and Makefile only, please help me
[03:43] <bazhang> Blue1, it sometimes takes me a couple of 'burns' with unetbootin to get it right, make sure the iso has been md5 checked
[03:43] <bazhang> !md5 > Blue1
[03:44] <Tree-House> nobody over at that channel is around
[03:44] <bazhang> Tree-House, check the appdb first. and be patient
[03:44] <Rigorm0rtis> Hello, I just started an upgrade process on my home server and ran into a problem. The updater asked if I wanted to compare differences between my version of smb.conf and the maintainer's smb.conf. I chose to compare the differences side by side. I made my terminal bigger (this is over an ssh session), and the display where I was supposed to compare the files didn't scale at all and some of the buttons disappeared. So I restored
[03:44] <Rigorm0rtis>  my SSH window to the size it was and the problem was still happening, so I hit CTRL+Z to suspend the process. I then cleared the screen and tried to resume the update process with fg. Now I just get my initial command and nothing is happening. How to I resume the file comparison?
[03:44] <ae86-drifter> should i upgrade kernel?
[03:45] <Blue1> bazhang: it md5 check summed fine.
[03:45] <Mathuin> Rigorm0rtis: CTRL+L ?
[03:45] <Mathuin> Or CTRL+R ?
[03:45] <Tree-House> I have, trying to figure it out
[03:45] <ae86-drifter> Rigorm0rtis r u sure it isnt just working?
[03:45] <edbian> ae86-drifter, I think you can compile that software using make in that folder. Have you ever compiled anything before?
[03:45] <bazhang> Blue1, okay, then try again? as I said it takes me a couple of tries sometimes
[03:45] <ae86-drifter> edbian of course, thats the first thing i tried
[03:45] <Rigorm0rtis> Mathuin, just prints ^L or ^R to the screen
[03:45] <Blue1> bazhang: we tried twice each -- it either works or doesn't is there another programme we could try under windows?
[03:46] <edbian> ae86-drifter, Yeah, then IDK
[03:46] <Mathuin> Rigorm0rtis: ESC :q!
[03:46] <Mathuin> If you're stuck in VI that should get you out.
[03:46] <Rigorm0rtis> ae86-drifter, not really. But I suspect the file comparison is running, i just can't interact with it
[03:46] <bazhang> Blue1, no idea about other options for windows, it works quite well, so sorry not to be able to help out here
[03:46] <MaverickOne> bazhang: what is the deb line for extras?
[03:46] <ae86-drifter> Rigorm0rtis u probs need to be pateint
[03:47] <cipher__> hello!
[03:47] <cipher__> what time zone is meerkat being released at?
[03:47] <Rigorm0rtis> Mathuin, I don't think it's running vim, the comparison it was having me work with was using ncurses I believe.
[03:47] <Blue1> bazhang: yeah it's not worked twice, for two of us, so don't know what we are doing wrong, but we're both not getting it. thanks.
[03:47] <bazhang> MaverickOne, its not official yet as Maverick has not been released, webupd8 has the info let me get it
[03:47] <Mathuin> Rigorm0rtis: you could CTRL+Z and then run 'jobs' to tell you what you interrupt. :-)
[03:48] <Rigorm0rtis> ae86-drifter, I'm fairly sure the app is waiting for my input though, I just can't interact with it
[03:48] <Mathuin> Either way, exiting out and restarting the original process sounds like the right thing to do.
[03:48] <abelundercity> This just started happening today: When I reach the login screen my install of 10.04 slows down to a crawl and works in stops and starts. The computer boots up fine, and on the live cd there's no problem with performance, so the problem must be software rather than hardware.  Can anyone provide some guidance for this?
[03:49] <edbian> abelundercity, Look at the output of dmesg.  It usually has helpful messages
[03:49] <Schindler> can some1 tell me why its bad to go on irc as root?
[03:49] <ariacus> how can I make my sound not to stutter when i doing somethinf ekse?
[03:49] <moetunes> is it   update-manager -d   to move up to the next version?
[03:49] <Schindler> i dont think so
[03:49] <cipher__> anyone know what how many hours till meerkat?
[03:49] <Rigorm0rtis> Mathuin, I just killed the job and I think it broke the upgrade :/
[03:49] <ariacus> Schindler: exploitrs
[03:49] <Schindler> 0.o wat
[03:49] <ae86-drifter> apt-get install dist-upgrade
[03:49] <edbian> Schindler, If there were vulnerabilities in xchat people could use it to destroy your entire system instead of just your /home
[03:50] <Mathuin> Rigorm0rtis: ugh!  can you restart the entire upgrade?
[03:50] <Schindler> well im on back track so thatll b fun lllool
[03:50] <abelundercity> OK, I'll try that and come back
[03:50] <coinmagic45> can anyone help with setting a desktop usb wireless keyboard to wake my computer from sleep?  It works in Windows 7 but isn't working in Linux (I have to hit the power button to wake from Sleep at the moment).
[03:50] <Schindler> ummm
[03:50] <Mathuin> BRB, switching systems
[03:50] <Rigorm0rtis> Mathuin, # do-release-upgrade -d
[03:50] <Rigorm0rtis> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[03:50] <Rigorm0rtis> No new release found :(
[03:51] <Schindler> its in power options
[03:51] <Schindler> i think
[03:51] <bazhang> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/fix-nopubkey-error-for-extras-ubuntu.html MaverickOne
[03:51] <nick383> I have awd elite that i have attached to my pc running ubuntu.  I can share (with correct permissions) it out and other pc's can see it but when they try to access it i get access denied.  When i look at the permissions on the folders they are correct, but when i look at the top level i get pemissions are not known
[03:51] <MaverickOne> bazhang: thank you :)
[03:51] <CowzRule> ~(}:-0)= Mooooo
[03:51] <Schindler> u need to login as the same user
[03:51] <Schindler> lol
[03:51] <bazhang> CowzRule, dont
[03:51] <alohawaii> hi, how can i tell whether my internet is from eth0 or from wlan0?
[03:51] <unknown> ifconfig
[03:51] <Schindler> ifconfig
[03:52] <cipher__> ifconfig
[03:52] <Schindler> chack wat has an ip
[03:52] <coinmagic45> Schindler, I'm new to Linux so maybe I'm thinking something wrong, but I couldn't find anything for that in Power Options...
[03:52] <Schindler> let me c 1 min
[03:52] <coinmagic45> thanks, you da man :-)
[03:52] <ae86-drifter> nick383, whats an AWD elite??
[03:53] <Rigorm0rtis> Mathuin, so I ran aptitude upgrade, and it said "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." So I ran that and it looks like the upgrade is picking up where it left off.
[03:53] <ae86-drifter> sounds like a car
[03:53] <nick383> a western digital
[03:53] <nick383> sorry
[03:53] <Mathuin> Rigorm0rtis: whew!
[03:53] <cipher__> so what time zone is meerkat being released in??
[03:53] <cipher__> no mythtv for me until then
[03:53] <nick383> right
[03:53] <Mathuin> !isitout
[03:54] <nick383> any ideas?
[03:54] <ae86-drifter> nick383 how are you sharing it?
[03:54] <ae86-drifter> through SMB?
[03:54] <Schindler> my internet is sucking
 i installed samba
[03:55] <ae86-drifter> install system-config-samba and use the GUI tool
[03:55] <nick383> i think the problem is with the permissions between the NAS and ubuntu
[03:55] <Tree-House> So anybody know if there is settings I have to change for wine, it seems to be working now, but the installer cannot find/access the files it needs
[03:55] <sam__> Icould not get 10.10 retbook RC to work in Virtualbox but it installed fine on a free partition. Anyone able to get the netbook version to work in VB?
[03:56] <nick383> I can see the connection on the other end
[03:56] <cipher__> no one knows what time zone ubuntu releases operate in??
[03:56] <nick383> even in the folder
[03:56] <Schindler> i reccomend making a thred about it on ubuntu fourms, cant find wake on keypress, lol but i found wake on lan XD
[03:56] <nick383> only when i look directly at the connected storage does it not see any permissions
[03:56] <coinmagic45> Schindler, should I post on ubuntu forums or Launchpad?
[03:56] <ae86-drifter> nick383 well u need to check the samba permissions and the authentication, also permissions on ur filesystem
[03:57] <Schindler> ubuntu fourms is faster imo
[03:57] <coinmagic45> k thanks!
[03:57] <Schindler> np
[03:57] <nick383> is there a command to run to take ownership of the connected device?
[03:58] <Schindler> hay, any1 know the ports irc uses?
[03:58] <ae86-drifter> nick383, chown
[03:58] <x714x> default ports are 6667 and 6697 for ssl
[03:58] <x714x> but you can have any port you want
[03:58] <Schindler> thx
[03:58] <afeijo> how can I convert the permissions letters to chmod numbers ?
[03:58] <genupulas> how can i make iso from live cd in ubuntu
[03:58] <sam__> When can we download 10.10?
[03:58] <Schindler> lol
[03:58] <x714x> lol
[03:59] <Schindler> 2morrow
[03:59] <ae86-drifter> nick383, r u sharing to other ubuntu machines
[03:59] <genupulas> how can i make iso from live cd in ubuntu
[03:59] <nick383> nope windows
[03:59] <nick383> but i have other directories shared out that i can access
[03:59] <x714x> genupulas,  the live cd is a iso...
[03:59] <Schindler> if ur on a lke cd y do u need an iso?
[03:59] <Schindler> lol
[03:59] <ae86-drifter> nick383 well they probably not authenticating prperly, what are u using to authenticate
[04:00] <ae86-drifter> ok nick
[04:00] <genupulas> how can i make iso from live cd in ubuntu
[04:00] <Schindler> nick383 did you add premissions of everyone? or just ur self?
[04:00] <x714x> ...
[04:00] <Schindler> for*
[04:00] <ae86-drifter> nick383, do sudo chmod -R 777 /path/to/hd
[04:00] <afeijo> how can I convert the permissions letters to chmod numbers ?
[04:00] <x714x> genupulas,  the live cd is a iso...
[04:00] <x714x> genupulas,  the live cd is a iso...
[04:00] <x714x> genupulas,  the live cd is a iso...
[04:00] <FloodBot3> x714x: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:01] <nick383> the pcs are part of the same workgroup with matching accounts that authenicate on both sides
[04:01] <researcher123> using gparted which partition can I increase so that my Download folder has more space
[04:01] <Schindler> its some ls flag....
[04:01] <Schindler> XD
[04:01] <x714x> :S
[04:01] <Schindler> wtf just happened?
[04:02] <Schindler> flood bot XD
[04:02] <researcher123> which partition has the File System folder
[04:02] <Schindler> did u partion it manully?
[04:02] <ae86-drifter> researcher123 probs ur /home partition
[04:02] <unknown> filezilla, FFFFUUUUU
[04:02] <Schindler> researcher123 its in the same one as the one u installed ubuntu
[04:03] <Schindler> .-.
[04:03] <researcher123> ae86-drifter: but while installing I created Boot, Swap and Root so among thes what contain File System folder
[04:03] <ae86-drifter> root
[04:03] <lucent> researcher123: the default configuration (boot, swap, root) means root contains home
[04:03] <lucent> home is where your files are stored i.e. downloads
[04:04] <Schindler> i gots a question, why would a hacker distroy a system he helped make (linux)
[04:04] <ikonia> Schindler: that's offtopic and nothing to do with ubuntu
[04:04] <Schindler> opps
[04:04] <lucent> researcher123: I think that some of us prefer not to fill up root, so we move home to its own partition, and hence some confusion in answering your question
[04:04] <ikonia> Schindler: no problem
[04:04] <researcher123> but gparted show a picture in which resizing of root is not available it seems
[04:04] <Schindler> lucent is their a tut on that lol
[04:05] <lucent> researcher123: true, you cannot resize root, because you are running your computer and root modification would destroy it
[04:05] <Schindler> researcher123 use a live cd
[04:05] <lucent> researcher123: the answer is to boot a livecd with tools you want to use, and then resize root when you are not running your computer from root
[04:05] <researcher123> but I want the Download folder size to increase which is within File System of the Root
[04:05] <CowzRule> researcher123 You can't resize root because it's mounted
[04:05] <lucent> that's a bit dumb what I said but I hope you understand what I am trying to say
[04:05] <Rigorm0rtis> All right. Looks like I am having some dependency problems now. Running dpkg --configure -a gives me all of this before giving up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/509821/
[04:05] <CowzRule> You could do it from a live cd
[04:06] <Schindler> yup
[04:06] <researcher123> CowzRule: Then Download folder size to increase which is within File System of the Root
[04:06] <lucent> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[04:06] <Schindler> what time exactly does ubuntu 10.10 come out? and what time zone?
[04:06] <lucent> that's ... special.
[04:07] <lucent> Schindler: no one knows for sure, and this is not the place to discuss #ubuntu+1
[04:07] <lucent> Schindler: maybe you will find your answer if you ask there
[04:07] <Schindler> i rely need to read some rules =(
[04:07] <matts45acp> im new to this
[04:08] <matts45acp> can someone please give me some help installing my wireless adapter
[04:08] <lucent> matts45acp: what make / model? is it USB? express card?
[04:08] <Schindler> matts45acp i can help
[04:09] <GabeYYZ> evening everyone
[04:09] <TornadoChas3r> I made a change to /etc/fstab but stupid me made a typo and did not notice and restarted my machine. Now i cant boot or mount the partition. (Cant even boot into recovery mode). I tried a live CD but since i am unable to mount the parition I cannot fix the file. Anyone got an idea on how I can fix this. When i try to mount the partition this is the error i get:
[04:09] <TornadoChas3r> http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/6976/fstabmounterror.jpg
[04:10] <CowzRule> Does anyone know where wicd stores it's networking profiles?
[04:10] <ikonia> TornadoChas3r: that's not a mount command, thats a problem mounting at boot
[04:10] <ikonia> TornadoChas3r: mount the partition from the livecd to fix it
[04:10] <MeltingKeyboard> hey there, does anybody know what time 10.10 will be released UTC??
[04:11] <ikonia> MeltingKeyboard: no
[04:11] <swordz> MeltingKeyboard Read the topic...
[04:11] <MeltingKeyboard> hmmm
[04:11] <MeltingKeyboard> sorry, am I talking in the wrong place?
[04:11] <swordz> MeltingKeyboard yes
[04:12]  * soreau thinks everyone should be told 'at the very end of the month'
[04:12] <unknown> .join #ubuntu+1
[04:12] <swordz> MeltingKeyboard Rather than PMing me, why not do as I suggested?
[04:12] <soreau> this way, less people ask and if it happens any earlier it will be a welcome surprise
[04:12] <unknown> Lol, epic typo.
[04:12] <twinkie_addict> is 10.10 that much of an inprovment over 10.4 ?
[04:12] <MeltingKeyboard> sorry
[04:12] <soreau> twinkie_addict: #ubuntu+1
[04:13] <twinkie_addict> lol sorry
[04:13] <Fezzler> what determines power of a USB port?  I have a sound cable that works great via jack with my iPod but if I plug the cable into my guitar it doesn'y work
[04:14] <twinkie_addict> so many ubuntu chanals going its hard get in the right one :)
[04:14] <Lanks> hi any ideas on configuring a usb wifi dongle with ubuntu. I am getting the following error when I plug it in "rt2500usb_init_eeprom error invalid rt chipset detected"
[04:14] <Fezzler> the cable is advertised for guitars and linux
[04:14] <phil_in_london> Fezzler, your guitar has no amp, and its off topic
[04:16] <Blue1> bazhang: found it -- it is trying to boot off the cdrom -- remove it works fine.
[04:16] <Fezzler> phil_in_london>> Cable is said to be used right from guitar and I'm running Ubuntu Lucid - not on topic?
[04:16] <Blue1> bazhang: iow i had to manually change syslinux.cfg
[04:16] <Fezzler> phil_in_london>> Thought it may be a Lucid USB issue
[04:16] <GabeYYZ> heh i need to lern2irc, i still get a bit dizzy with all the madness
[04:17] <Blue1> there is no way a n00b could ever get a bootable usb drive with unetbootin
[04:17] <CowzRule> Does anyone know where WICD stores it's networking profiles?
[04:18] <phil_in_london> Fezzler, your problems are more likely to be caused by your soundcard rather than which operating system you use. Look at the properties of your audio, maybe change from analog to digital or vice versa. At any rate, there may be a setting in the Audio panel that can help.
[04:18] <tucemiux> how do you make it so that you can see icons of minimized applications???
[04:18] <GabeYYZ> dunno about the profiles, but the basic settings (gateway,netmask,DNS) are stored on iface and resolv.conf
[04:19] <tucemiux>  Fezzler I just got into the room, did you say ubuntu and guitar?
[04:19] <ariacus> is there a desktop emnviroement when you can put panels at left abd right sides of screen? i cannot adfford 2 lame panels on top and bottom
[04:19] <chu> ariacus: You can do that with GNOME can't you?
[04:20] <ariacus> chu: no\
[04:20] <phil_in_london> ariacus, right click on the top panel, and change its location from top to left or right or whatever
[04:20] <tucemiux> ariacus, what are you using???
[04:20] <chu> ariacus: Just change the orientation of the panels.
[04:20] <ariacus> they look lame then and work bad
[04:21] <Fezzler> tucemiux>> yes
[04:21] <Fezzler> tucemiux>> I use my guitar with Ubuntu
[04:21] <CowzRule> GabeYYZ by "iface" do you mean /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:21] <tucemiux> Fezzler, is something not working?
[04:21] <ariacus> for example all notifications icons are on top of each other and taskbar buttins are rotaded
[04:22] <chu> ariacus: You could probably use two AWN panels.
[04:22] <phil_in_london> Fezzler, if you join #ardour  you'll find a bunch of people that use linux daw system that will be familiar with your predicament
[04:22] <CowzRule> ariacus Try AWN
[04:22] <ariacus> !awn
[04:22] <ariacus> does awn nwwds compositing????
[04:22] <franciscopk> hi =D im prepared to ubuntu final =D
[04:22] <tucemiux> Fezzler, most likely you want to go to #opensourcemusicians but it looks like you solved your problem
[04:22] <Sintricate> Hi. When can I download 10.10?
[04:23] <CowzRule> ariacus for some feature yes
[04:23] <Fezzler> tucemiux>> I'd discuss but seems like not welcomed here
[04:23] <chu> I don't think so anymore ariacus, but if you don't have compositing you won't get the max features.
[04:23] <Fezzler> tucemiux>> I have not
[04:23] <chu> Sintricate: It'll be announced when it's available.
[04:23] <franciscopk> Any mirror has ubunti final?
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> franciscopk: No.
[04:24] <franciscopk> usually mirrors has final release beforce official announce
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> franciscopk: it's not final until the announce.  In the meantime, this channel is for 10.04 and earlier support only.
[04:24] <tucemiux> Fezzler, if youre using ubuntu and have problems someone **might** be able to help or could direct you to someone who can
[04:24] <franciscopk> usually long before
[04:24] <ariacus> how awn package is clalled?
[04:24] <chu> ariacus: ubottu's description is slightly out-dated, for instance, I have a simple AWN panel on the left side of my screen. Though the bot's description says only top or bottom.
[04:24] <franciscopk> oh ok
[04:25] <franciscopk> there is some channel about 10.10?
[04:25] <RRU_Sciguy> yep, the party channe;
[04:25] <RRU_Sciguy> *channel
[04:25] <CowzRule> or #ubuntu+1
[04:25] <franciscopk> can you give me a name?
[04:25] <z00m> how do i run .jar files on linux ?
[04:25] <achew22> franciscopk: probably #ubuntu+1 (for the next few hours)
[04:25] <franciscopk> thanks =]
[04:25] <CowzRule> #ubuntu-release-party
[04:26] <chu> ariacus: Should just be awn?
[04:26] <Fezzler> last Q: what tool or menu item do I use to troubleshoot sound card settings?
[04:26] <RRU_Sciguy> CowzRule got it right
[04:27] <tucemiux> im still trying to figure out how to get icons of minimized applications
[04:27] <callen> okay, the new font in 10.10
[04:27] <callen> is ridiculously gorgeous
[04:27] <callen> and I'm a Mac user.
[04:27] <callen> so there
[04:27] <emma> does anyone remember what you press to get the little box that lets you type in a program to start it?>
[04:27] <djzn> are we any close?
[04:28] <CowzRule> alt+f-2
[04:28] <ariacus> callen: you saw it in Vista already )
[04:28] <callen> ariacus: did I?
[04:28] <CowzRule> emma: Alt + F2
[04:28] <RRU_Sciguy> callen: not surprising as Mac OS is a commercial release of ubuntu basically :P
[04:28] <hikenboot> hello can anyone tell me how to remove kvm so it doesnt interfere with vbox
[04:28] <callen> RRU_Sciguy: I don't think that's accurate.
[04:29] <callen> RRU_Sciguy: and I'm being rather charitable with my words.
[04:29] <djzn> it's about 3 in the morning in Isle of Man, right?
[04:29] <ikonia> RRU_Sciguy: thats nonsense, please don't misslead people
[04:29] <unknown> Mac is a commercial release of an operating system based off of an unfinished version of unix (to my knowledge)
[04:29] <miyamoto> can any one help me to connect mobile broadband device in ubuntu
[04:29] <ikonia> !offtopic
[04:29] <callen> unknown: nah.
[04:29] <Gnea> RRU_Sciguy: commercial release of ubuntu? what are you smoking?
[04:29] <callen> unknown: darwin BSD
[04:29] <callen> unknown: perfectly complete unix.
[04:30] <unknown> No operating system is complete.
[04:30] <ikonia> guys, check the topic, please
[04:30] <ikonia> unknown: please
[04:30] <Gnea> RRU_Sciguy: Ubuntu is based on Linux, Mac OSX is based on BSD
[04:30] <callen> unknown: POSIX. *shrugs*
[04:30] <emma> is there anyway to close all running applications and windows and restore to a state that is the same as having just started up, without restarting?
[04:30] <unknown> They haven't gotten Chuck Norris into any programs yet.
[04:30] <ikonia> emma: as in quit them ?
[04:30] <ariacus> emma: kill your session
[04:30] <djzn> gnea it doesnt matter, as long as the UI works !!!!!!
[04:30] <RRU_Sciguy> BSD is still based on Unix as is Ubuntu
[04:31] <ariacus> emma: killall -TERM gnome-session-bin
[04:31] <miyamoto> can any one help me to connect mobile broadband device in ubuntu
[04:31] <Gnea> RRU_Sciguy: not saying it's not, just saying that your original statement was completely incorrect
[04:31] <emma> ikonia: yeah i have so much stuff open after 25 days of the computer being on it's too big a mess to clean up one window at a time.
[04:31] <emma> i just want to go back to the way it was when i started without turning off the computer
[04:31] <phil_in_london> emma, log out and then log back in
[04:31] <emma> or reseting the computer.
[04:31] <phil_in_london> no startup necessary
[04:31] <ikonia> emma: I suppose it depends on the state, thinks like xterms can be re-opened from session files, but others that have state as part of the application, you'll have to re-start
[04:32] <tucemiux> what a sorrow mistake ubuntu is,   I cant believe its lagging so much behind from ubuntustudio, I give up!
[04:32] <emma> what do you think of ariacus' idea?
[04:32] <ikonia> emma: let me read, I missed it
[04:32] <Gnea> tucemiux: what do you mean? they're developed at the same pace
[04:32] <chu> Sounds hardcore.
[04:32] <phil_in_london> its not supposed to be ubuntustudio, thats what hmm, ubuntustudio is for.
[04:32] <lucent> emma: the alternative is to ALT-TAB and ALT-F4
[04:32] <RRU_Sciguy> Gnea, Blame my statement on the guy who introduced me to Ubuntu XD
[04:32] <ikonia> emma: in honesty, I don't think it will work, but I also don't know enough about gnome-session-bin to be certain
[04:32] <Gnea> RRU_Sciguy: who was that? :)
[04:33] <emma> lucent: why what does that do?
[04:33] <lucent> emma: one by one, if you use the keyboard short cuts it goes quick enough for compulsive window-leaver-openers :)
[04:33] <RRU_Sciguy> Gnea, some guy from a modding community im part of
[04:33] <TornadoChas3r> urg.. i am having problems trying to mount the partition in the live cd /:
[04:33] <emma> lucent: use compiz to quickly go through the list of stuff?
[04:33] <lucent> yeah
[04:33] <tucemiux> Gnea, the look and feel is so much better on ubuntustudio, I couldnt figure out how to see minimized appz on ubuntu so im going back to ubuntustudio, i feel sorry I wasted a few hours with ubuntu, im getting rid of the thing and installing ubuntustudio
[04:33] <emma> that's not so bad.
[04:33] <Gnea> RRU_Sciguy: well perhaps you can 'mod' his perception to a more realistic one ;)
[04:33] <emma> im going to give the killall -TERM gnome-session-bin a try just to see what happens.
[04:34] <ikonia> emma: your "core" applications are worth putting in your .sessions file most will even support -x -y cordinates for screen position
[04:34] <RRU_Sciguy> Gnea, his view: Ubuntu is THE OS, all others can't compare
[04:34] <chu> tucemiux: So you base your claims on aesthetics which can easily be modified? Nice.
[04:34] <emma> here goes nothing. (presumably me)
[04:34] <ikonia> emma: please report back, I 'd like to know if that works
[04:34] <unknown> Don't forget to install network manager in ubuntustudio. It's not in there on install.
[04:34] <djzn> IS IT OUT
[04:34] <Gnea> tucemiux: heh, you do know that you can simply do a sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop, right?
[04:34] <CowzRule> NO
[04:34] <chu> !isitout
[04:34] <Gnea> RRU_Sciguy: funny
[04:34] <emma> em@leibniz:~$ killall -TERM gnome-session-bin
[04:34] <emma> gnome-session-bin: no process found
[04:34] <djzn> I hope this release is not as buggy as lucid
[04:35] <Gnea> tucemiux: the only difference is the GUI, everything else under the hood is the same
[04:35] <tucemiux> chu, ive been here more than 30 minutes trying to find  an solution that are "easily modified" but I think were goign off topic here, I wont even mention how ubuntu didnt encrypt my home directory automatically
[04:35] <gdb> s/apt-get/aptitude/g
[04:35] <ariacus> try without "-bin"
[04:35] <CowzRule> Join #ubuntu-release-party or #ubuntu+1
[04:35] <lucent> emma: 'killall' say the word kill is more like 'tell it' and TERM means terminate, or please close
[04:35] <TornadoChas3r> I have a feeling i am doing something wrong.. when i try to mount the partition i get this in return
[04:35] <TornadoChas3r> mount: /dev/cciss/c0d0p2: can't read superblock
[04:35] <tucemiux> Gnea, were going off topic plus I havent even started on how sound appz like JACK dont work in ubuntu vanilla flavor, thanks for the input though
[04:35] <lucent> emma: it's as safe as you want it to be, that's what I think
[04:36] <emma> huh?
[04:36] <lucent> nerdspeak, sorry
[04:36] <tonysan> how do I specifiy outgoing IP when I am establishing ssh tunnel?
[04:36] <unknown> Try manually mounting the media in terminal.
[04:36] <lucent> emma: do you want commands to type in, or click-and-point?
[04:36] <littlebearz> tonysan: doesn't it tunnel auto with your outbound IP?
[04:37] <Austin25> Anyone know of a distro that boots into RAM like puppy, but has apt-get?
[04:37] <gdb> s/apt-get/aptitude/g
[04:37] <unknown> Does dsl have apt-get?
[04:37] <lucent> Austin25: OpenWRT
[04:37] <bazhang> Austin25, try ##linux as this is ubuntu support only
[04:37] <lucent> actually I am mistaken, ipkg not apt-get nevermind it
[04:37] <gdb> ie; Please stop recommending/using apt-get. Use and recommend aptitude.  That's the preferred package manager in both Debian and Ubuntu.  apt-get is deprecated, please just stop using it.
[04:37] <luis_> hola soy un burro para xubuntu
[04:38] <bazhang> gdb, not so
[04:38] <gdb> alias apt-get='aptitude' if you must
[04:38] <xangua> !msg Austin25 maybe 'puppy lucid'¿
[04:38] <blakkheim> gdb agreed, i don't know why everyone uses apt-get
[04:38] <xangua> upps
[04:38] <lucent> gdb: how do we install build-deps for aptitude?
[04:38] <emma> done.
[04:38] <lucent> for/with
[04:38] <unknown> Apt-get is easier to spell
[04:38] <lucent> it has super cow powers
[04:38] <lucent> I thought that was novelty
[04:38] <emma> I just simply held alt + F4 and didn't let up until everything was gone.
[04:38] <Mathuin> blakkheim: I use apt-get because Ubuntu recommends it when I run a command.  If xpdf isn't installed, Ubuntu says to type 'sudo apt-get install xpdf'.
[04:38] <ariacus> gdb: aptitude was removed from ubuntu
[04:38] <emma> it did not close firefox so i did killal firefox-bin on it.
[04:38] <lucent> emma: hey if that works for you, good then :)
[04:39] <rww> gdb: Erm. Some things you may not know: 1) That's true of Debian, not Ubuntu, 2) aptitude isn't even installed by default in 10.10.
[04:39] <Gnea> tucemiux: well, I won't disagree that the default Ubuntu gui could stand to be replaced with something else that's more memory efficient. as for jackd, that can be a bit tricky at times
[04:39] <tonysan> littlebearz: I need to bind it with another IP, I have multiple outbound
[04:39]  * gdb shrugs.  It's in 10.04 which is what I have here.  If Ubuntu removed it from 10.10, well.. heh.  I can't even begin to fathom why.
[04:39] <djzn> is ext4 mature enough or still messing up ISO images
[04:39] <littlebearz> tonysan: werid, sorry don't know about that
[04:40] <rww> djzn: works fine for me
[04:40] <ariacus> because apt-get can build from Source
[04:40] <djzn> if a ext3 file system is converted to ext4, will it be faster when it fscks it ?
[04:41] <lucent> slower
[04:41] <lucent> much slower.
[04:41] <djzn> so it's better to keep the original ext3
[04:41] <unknown> Is it possible to boost bluetooth signal for a usb bluetooth dongle, for some reason, no matter how close my ds3 is, all I ever get is 7%
[04:41] <lucent> I fail to see the advantages of using ext4 outweighing the ... uh... train wreck"
[04:42] <djzn> i still have ext3 on all partitions....
[04:42] <lucent> djzn: sauce patches in Ubuntu kernel interact badly with ext4
[04:42] <blakkheim> i use UFS2 :)
[04:42] <lucent> the bugs are fixed, the performance issues are not.
[04:42] <djzn> however fsck'ing 300 GB can last 6 minutes
[04:42] <ikonia> lucent: which ones /
[04:43] <ikonia> lucent: which patches interact bad with ext4 ?
[04:43] <lucent> ikonia: never figured it out, I've found 2 first-ground bugs about ext4
[04:43] <lucent> reported, patched
[04:43] <djzn> i do keep EXT3 on all partitions....
[04:43] <ikonia> lucent: so the bugs are resolved, not currently open ?
[04:43] <djzn> last time I tried ext4, got a ISO corrupted.... right on the spot, literally minutes after I installed ubuntu
[04:44] <TheLorax> I just put xubuntu onto a usb key, on an hp mini 110, and it's hanging at boot at the following line: agpgart-into 0000:00:00.0: detected 7932k stolen memory.
[04:44] <lucent> ikonia: yes, though after finding bugs the 2nd time around I discontinued use of ext4
[04:44] <lucent> no confidence in it
[04:44] <ikonia> lucent: just checking, thanks
[04:45] <phil_in_london> unknown, have you messed around with hciconfig , there are settings that can be done with it.
[04:45] <Guest37982> need help with dman wifi in ubuntu 9.10
[04:45] <ariacus> why ubuntu is so badly translaed?
[04:45] <gdb> What's the connection between iso and ext4?
[04:45] <lucent> if someone asks me "should I use ext4 for my important data?" then I tell them what I know, do not use it
[04:45] <ariacus> english text every nw and then
[04:45] <littlebearz> ariacus: what language?
[04:45] <gdb> They're different filesystems, hence why I can't figure out what one has to do with the other.
[04:45] <Guest37982> wifi radar and wicd  cant get ip address
[04:45] <gdb> iso = iso9660, ext4 = ... ext4
[04:45] <ariacus> russian, no less
[04:45] <djzn> yeah, ext4 i wouldn't recommend too
[04:46] <Guest37982> ubuntu already instaled the broadcom driver
[04:46] <Guest37982> or that is what it says
[04:46] <Schindler> did you hear broadcom is going open sorce!!
[04:47] <Guest37982> yes
[04:47] <Schindler> yey!
[04:47] <Guest37982> maybe ubuntu 10.10 will be more decent at wifi
[04:47] <lucent> doubtful in regards to broadcom
[04:47] <Schindler> i hope, i get 10mbps on a 500mbps card XD
[04:47] <Guest37982> but right now it sucks U.U
[04:47] <quiescens> it won't affect 10.10, not directly anyway
[04:47] <gdb> http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/Broadcom-Releases-Open-Source-Wireless-Drivers
[04:48] <Leon_Nardella> Can anyone reproduce bug 654892?
[04:48] <quiescens> I wasn't aware there were 500mbps options at consumer level
[04:48] <Guest37982> so . . . . wifi radar is still "acquaring ip address" ... should i do all that stuff with fwcutter and such
[04:48] <Guest37982> -___-
[04:48] <Jordan_U> gdb: I think he meant that he wrote an iso file to his ext4 filesystem and then checked the checksum and it was wrong.
[04:48] <Guest37982> ¿¿
[04:48] <gdb> Jordan_U: Ah, I couldn't tell.  Thanks for the insight, you're probably right.
[04:49] <soreau> gdb: Well it's about time
[04:49] <phil_in_london> unknown  hciconfig hci0 inqtpl    thats your inquiry transmission levels
[04:49] <lucent> It's revealing, to me, that Hollywood digital cinema package distribution is on harddrives with ext3 filesystem
[04:51] <Starcraftmazter> heys guys. As of 10.10, when im listening to music or video occasionally the sound breaks down into static, that continues for several seconds even after i pause the media
[04:51] <lucent> Starcraftmazter: #ubuntu+1 mate
[04:52] <Starcraftmazter> isnt it out yet?
[04:52] <rww> Starcraftmazter: nope
[04:52] <lucent> not in this timezone
[04:52] <Starcraftmazter> oh my bad
[04:52] <Starcraftmazter> lol
[04:52] <lucent> how's the future looking over there?
[04:52] <Starcraftmazter> new ATI drivers are 10x faster
[04:52] <Starcraftmazter> so is firefox
[04:52] <lucent> sounds very over 9000
[04:52] <soreau> Starcraftmazter: You mean new 'radeon' drivers?
[04:53] <Starcraftmazter> flgrx
[04:53] <CowzRule> Join #ubuntu-release-party or #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-release-announce
[04:53] <djzn> the problem with ext4 for me was downloading an ISO image with transmission bit-torrent client
[04:53] <soreau> Starcraftmazter: In any event, the ATI brand name is being faded out in favor of 'Radeon'
[04:53] <GabeYYZ> i like ext4 better than NTFS, dunno why
[04:53] <djzn> it downloaded completely messed up some bits..... it was plain to see
[04:53] <lucent> soreau: now -that- is interesting :)
[04:54] <soreau> lucent: Not really.. it's just an official name change under the hand of AMD
[04:54] <djzn> could be transmission issue.... with ext4
[04:54] <djzn> nevertheless it's a huge issue, specially if transmission IS shipping with ext4
[04:54] <lucent> soreau: I didn't catch that news, really.  Is there an article or memo that explains it, you'd reccommend I read?
[04:55] <lucent> soreau: I'm curious to know if "ATI" is disappearing
[04:55] <soreau> lucent: Sure, it's on phoronix forums
[04:55] <lucent> 'k
[04:55] <Tree-House> I really dont know what im doing wrong here, Anyone help with wine?
[04:55] <Dougdoug4> Where can I download a burner that will let me burn an .iso to a USB?
[04:56] <lucent> Dougdoug4: 'Unetbootin' tool helps do that
[04:56] <lucent> it works only with a few linux based distros
[04:56] <lucent> do not expect it to work otherwise
[04:56] <djzn> are you guys happy with flash player 64 bit current?
[04:56] <lucent> Tree-House: I'm thinking you'll have best luck talking to people who are interested in wine
[04:56] <lucent> Tree-House: try the forums for a linux gaming community
[04:57] <sheldon> TreeHouse: what are you trying to run in wine?
[04:57] <AbhiJit> :o
[04:57] <AbhiJit> not out yet!
[04:57] <AbhiJit> :(
[04:58] <CowzRule> Join #ubuntu-release-party or #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-release-announce
[04:58] <Exploiter> Hello all, anyone onw knows any software for sending bulk emails using gmail smtp?? (for ubuntu)
[04:58] <littlebearz> postfix
[04:58] <littlebearz> but u need some time to set it up :P
[04:59] <ariacus> Exploiter: i don't think it's appropriate here
[04:59] <Exploiter> wy?
[04:59] <crimton> hi is this the right place for help and troubleshooting?
[04:59] <chu> crimton: Yep
[04:59] <lucent> bulk email is not a support issue
[05:00] <Exploiter> not exactly bulk, gmail let you send 500 emails legally
[05:00] <rusivi> Leon_Nardella: Yes, and the opportunity to create LZO compressed files was not in Archive Roller, good catch.
[05:00] <Exploiter> i have my own list bro.. nothing annoying..
[05:00] <littlebearz> Exploiter: just send couple batches of 500s then
[05:00] <lucent> I don't care at all for your attitude Exploiter
[05:00] <crimton> just installed ubuntu on my dell and can't get online
[05:00] <lucent> get out.
[05:00] <Exploiter> :p
[05:00] <crimton> drivers activated to
[05:00] <chu> crimton: Wireless?
[05:00] <crimton> yea
[05:01] <crimton> dell vostro 1000
[05:01] <djzn> Exploiter: the world is a worse place with SPAM
[05:01] <sweetpi> off-topic and you want to know how to send bulk email over gmail and your nick is Exploiter.. nuf said
[05:02] <gdb> bulk email isn't always spam
[05:02] <gdb> the various ubuntu mailing lists are "bulk email" and certainly not spam
[05:02] <TomTom435> hello, I added an extra hard drive to my dell server, after reboot when I do, df-h it doesnt know show it
[05:02] <Leon_Nardella> rusivi, Any idea about that bug? I've been checking the files in /usr/share/mime and /usr/lib/mime, but everything seems fine there.
[05:02] <Exploiter> absoluterly @ gdb
[05:02] <crimton> anyways it connected when it was booting from the cd, but not from the disk
[05:03] <gdb> The point about his nick being Exploiter is noted, though.  I found that ironic.
[05:03] <Exploiter> i need to change my nick to noobboy or something..  :|
[05:04] <Tree-House> how do i use shell?
[05:04] <chu> Yeah, cause you're more likely to get help that way....
[05:04] <Exploiter> i guess that why i was kicked by hd moore from metasploit room
[05:04] <Exploiter> yesterady..
[05:05] <ariacus> Tree-House: for what?
[05:06]  * sweetpi gives Exploiter a shovel
[05:06] <rusivi> Leon_Nardella: From cursory read about LZO compression, it's focus is speed of compression, not as much as % compressed. Seems useful to include in Roller combined with active development on it. May want to upstream it.
[05:07] <Leon_Nardella> rusivi, Thing is... It used to work fine before Maverick.
[05:07] <crimton> anyone have any suggestions on how to get drivers for my dell?
[05:07] <edbian> crimton, Driver for what?  (install them from the repos)
[05:07] <blakkheim> crimton: maybe by giving us some more detail
[05:08] <crimton> ok
[05:08] <rusivi> Leon_Nardella: I have not followed dev decisions on it, worth an upstream imho.
[05:08] <crimton> i'm a noob sorry
[05:08] <crimton> http://pastebin.com/C2z0MKGn
[05:08] <edbian> crimton, here to help bud
[05:08] <crimton> someone was trying to help me earlier had me give them this
[05:09] <crimton> does that help you
[05:09] <edbian> crimton, What do you need a driver for?
[05:09] <MTW> wheres the fuckin release
[05:09] <blakkheim> lol
[05:09] <maco> !language | MTW
[05:09] <MaverickOne> !language | MTW
[05:09] <crimton> wireless card is not connecting to the internet
[05:09] <edbian> crimton, It is a list of all the hardware on your system. It does not help because I have no idea what your problem is
[05:09] <crimton> or even being recognized
[05:09] <edbian> crimton, There we go!  wifi huh.  sudo iwlist scan in a term.  What does it say?
[05:10] <crimton> i said that way up
[05:10] <crimton> but the screen moves fast lol
[05:10] <ariacus> Tree-House: install it in windows, patch then copy to ubuntu
[05:10] <edbian> crimton, Sorry I just hopped on
[05:11] <crimton> edbian ok
[05:11] <crimton> what should i be looking for
[05:12] <ariacus> Tree-House: I would fix your windows first, but ymmw\
[05:12] <edbian> crimton, It to list your wireless networks.  If it isn't working it'll just say "no wireless extensions" over and over and you won't see any networks listed.
[05:12] <TomTom435> can anyone see my text ?
[05:12] <ariacus> or is it ymmv?
[05:12] <chu> yeah TomTom435
[05:12] <edbian> TomTom435, yep!
[05:12] <TomTom435> thanks
[05:12] <bullgard4> Using OpenOffice.org Base 3.2.1. I have connected to an existing database, made a form and can search in it and find strings. But how can I write in it? I did not find a recipe using the Help function.
[05:12] <TomTom435> hello, I added an extra hard drive to my dell server, after reboot when I do, df-h it doesnt know show it, what should I do
[05:12] <crimton> well its connected now with usb adapter
[05:13] <crimton> i'll try again without
[05:13] <blakkheim> TomTom435: fdisk -l
[05:13] <blakkheim> TomTom435: then mount the device
[05:13] <edbian> crimton, You're confusing me.
[05:13] <ariacus> and ae you sure legit SC2 is compatible with wine?
[05:13] <edbian> crimton, Do you have 2 wireless cards? one internal and one usb?  What are you trying to do and what isn't working?
[05:13] <crimton> the usb adapter allows it to connect to the internet but it wont on the computers wireless card
[05:13] <crimton> and also its a diff pc then the one i'm on here
[05:14] <TomTom435> blakkheim, it doesnt so anything except /dev/sda*, shouldnt there be /dev/sdb* ?
[05:14] <crimton> i want the internal to connect
[05:14] <blakkheim> TomTom435: yeah there should
[05:15] <TomTom435> blakkheim, its one of those server where it has drive slots, I just got a new one from the company and plugged it in and rebooted
[05:15] <edbian> crimton, sudo iwlist scan should list each interface and what wireless networks they found.  Does the internal card and the usb drive find networks using that tool?
[05:15] <blakkheim> TomTom435: are you sure they're hotswappable?
[05:15] <crimton> interface doesn't support scanning?
[05:16] <TomTom435> not sure, there are 8 drive slots
[05:16] <TomTom435> 4 of them with 250 gigs each
[05:16] <TomTom435> the new one is 1TB
[05:16] <ejv> for some reason my ubuntu doesn't support mp3 files, im guessing some (stupid) licensing issues, how do I bring mp3 support to k3b?
[05:16] <blakkheim> TomTom435: i would try putting it in a different slot first, if that doesn't work then try the drive in another machine to see if it's detected there
[05:16] <Jordan_U> !mp3 | ejv
[05:16] <TomTom435> blakkheim, its dell 2900 edge server
[05:17] <ejv> usability fail!
[05:17] <ariacus> why don't we have crippled version of ubuntu wirhout codecs for U$A market, and normal one worldwide, and not what we have now?
[05:18] <bazhang> !ot > ariacus
[05:18] <Yojimbo_> ShipIt won't ship 10.04 anymore?
[05:18] <ejv> im down with that ariacus
[05:18] <ejv> ;)
[05:18] <bazhang> Yojimbo_, contact shipit
[05:18] <blakkheim> ariacus seems pretty bitter about america
[05:18] <bazhang> and way offtopic
[05:19] <ejv> im american and not offended by the notion, relax lol
[05:19] <TomTom435> blakkheim, ok gonna try that
[05:19] <Tal> so when exactly does 10.10 come out????/
[05:19] <ejv> tomorrow tal
[05:19] <blakkheim> TomTom435: it could be a sata port on the server, a cable or the actual drive
[05:19] <bazhang> Tal, no one knows
[05:19] <ariacus> how can I make my sound not to stutter when i doing somethinf else?
[05:20] <al_> I have installed Ubunutu on my old dell laptop with a quadro NV110M graphics chip. It all seems to work fine, but can I improve graphics performance but getting a "better" driver from somewhere?
[05:20] <rww> ariacus: because then the US release mirrors would have to be different from the others, and it'd be a mess, and probably still wouldn't solve the software patent issues.
[05:20] <coz_> al_,   well   open nvidia-settings and tell me which driver is installed right now
[05:21] <al_> coz: newbie here - where do I find nvidia-settings
[05:21] <crimton> edbian its not showing my network in the scan
[05:21] <rww> just like people had to do when encryption wasn't exportable from the US, and it was a mess then too >.>
[05:21] <coz_> al_,   hit alt+F2   type  nvidia-settings
[05:21] <rww> decent encryption **
[05:21] <ejv> fyi, the mp3 codec for k3b, lives in "libk3b6-extracodecs"
[05:21] <edbian> crimton, For which interface?
[05:22] <al_> no such file or directory
[05:22] <Hut> to write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf you will need the needed permissions though :-/
[05:22] <MTW> who is the loser who banned me from the release channel
[05:22] <Hut> sudo aptitude install nvidia-settings but shouldnt it come with nvidia driver?
[05:23] <ejv> lol... guess it was bazhang?
[05:23] <coz_> al_,  ok  open system/administration/hardware drivers
[05:23] <crimton> edbian i don't see it for any interface
[05:23] <Tal> are there any more ubuntu irc channels, this one is a bit crowded and i have a bunch of questions
[05:23] <crimton> i'm not sure what i should be looking for
[05:23] <coz_> al_,   when that opens see if there is a "preferred"  driver for your card listed
[05:23] <edbian> crimton, What does each interface say? "no wireless extensions" ?
[05:23] <ejv> Tal: there are local community Ubuntu channels, typically in the format #ubuntu-us-<state>, example #ubuntu-us-fl
[05:24] <crimton> it doesn't say no wireless connections
[05:24] <edbian> crimton, Then what does it say?
[05:24] <crimton> i will pm you what it says  so as not to spam up the channel ok?
[05:24] <al_> "No propriety drivers are installd on this system"
[05:24] <Tal> #ubuntu-us-il
[05:25] <ejv> Tal: type /join #ubuntu-us-il if that's a valid channel ;)
[05:25] <Furi> guys, i think i just screwed myself over, but i'd like to know for sure; i've went into the settings for compiz manager and set the "window effects" option to open up compiz --replace. i forgot that compiz sends the one pixcreate and destroy error and exits. now it keeps looping, and my screen keeps going on and off, and i have no time to do anything. how can i fix this?
[05:25] <Tal> i clicked the link you wrote and no one is on though
[05:25] <al_> then it has a option to install a current nvidia driver ver 173
[05:25] <ejv> Furi: drop to a fallback terminal and disable compiz
[05:26] <Furi> fallback terminal?
[05:26] <coz_> al_,   right you want to tick that driver to highlight it  then install it ...when it is finished you MUST reboot the system
[05:26] <Furi> i'm sorry, i've just installed ubuntu yesterday
[05:26] <al_> or nvidia agp driver (ver current) reccomended
[05:26] <ejv> Furi: yes, type <ctrl>+<alt>+[F1-6]
[05:26] <coz_> al_,   you want the recommended one
[05:26] <al_> seems to be installing
[05:26] <al_> thanks
[05:26] <Furi> okay
[05:26] <Furi> thanks
[05:26] <ejv> Furi: wait
[05:26] <al_> will let you know how I get on
[05:26] <Furi> i'll try that and
[05:26] <bullgard4> Using OpenOffice.org Base 3.2.1. I have connected to an existing database, made a form and can search in it and find strings. But how can I write in it? I did not find a recipe using the Help function.
[05:26] <Furi> ?
[05:27] <coz_> al_,  also when this is done come back here so we can test if sba and fastwrites are supported with that card and if so we can  fix that as well for better performance
[05:27] <ejv> Furi: are you using a different computer to troubleshoot this machine?
[05:27] <Furi> yes
[05:27] <crimton> ctuall heres a pastebin edbian http://pastebin.com/k9xCSV6e
[05:27] <Furi> i'm on my mother's computer
[05:27] <breno_santos> someone is already using Ubuntu 10:10
[05:27] <ejv> Furi: ok just making sure, drop to a fallback terminal, it'll ask for you user/pass, then disable compiz via that shell.
[05:27] <gonzaloaf> hello, I just have installed ubuntu server, the networking was working ok but after I installed gnome-desktop-environment I cannot surf then internet, I cannot even ping my gw, any clue?
[05:27] <Furi> okay
[05:27] <Furi> well, how do i disable it?
[05:28] <al_> coz: ok ta
[05:28] <Furi> and is there any direct way of changing the startup window manager?
[05:28] <Furi> i'd like to use metacity again
[05:28] <bullgard4> gonzaloaf: Analyze your dmesg for network-related messages.
[05:28] <Furi> i was trying emerald and none of the themes had button skins, so i decided to use my old stuff, so i uninstalled the package and thought i originally was using compiz
[05:28] <Furi> but i was actually using metacity
[05:28] <ejv> Furi: i'd prolly try to use a 'sudo killall compiz' then type ctrl+alt+f7 or f8 to test to see if it loads metacity again
[05:29] <edbian> crimton, Ha, sorry.  The app is yelling at you about not being used correctly.  It mast have changed in this new version of ubuntu.
[05:29] <ejv> Furi: your gui screen lives on one of the function keys, play around with it ;)
[05:29] <ariacus> Furi: check /etc/alternatives
[05:29] <Furi> okay
[05:29] <bullgard4> !enter | Furi
[05:29] <Furi> thanks
[05:29] <crimton> i have version 9.10
[05:29] <edbian> crimton, Sudo ifconfig -a  Do you have 2 wireless interfaces listed there?
[05:29] <Furi> oh, sorry bullgard; i've gotten used to chatting that way
[05:29] <ricochet5> I need help.
[05:29] <ricochet5> I'm installing Ubuntu and it's stuck at Step 4.
[05:30] <bullgard4> Furi: Please change your habbit in this lively channel.
[05:30] <ricochet5> It's resizing partition, but stuck at 0%.
[05:30] <ricochet5> I want to know if it's safe to close the window, and if closing the window will cease resizing the partition.
[05:30] <Furi> it's no problem, i'll do it if it's that much of a problem. you could have asked earlier if it was bugging you.
[05:30] <ariacus> ricochet5: try press alt+ctrl+f4... or was it in debian
[05:30] <ejv> Furi: you may end up doing a `sudo apt-get remove --purge compiz* && sudo apt-get install compiz`
[05:31] <AbhiJit> !guidelines > Furi
[05:31] <gonzaloaf> bullgard4, gigabit ethernet driver loaded
[05:31] <ejv> Furi: but i'd try a `metacity --replace` not sure if it has an X dependency though
[05:31] <ejv> oh my god just help the kid, stop quoting the rule book already... lol
[05:31] <ricochet5> ariacus: What am I checking for in alt-ctrl-f4?
[05:31] <ariacus> ricochet5: there should be an install log running
[05:31] <puff> http://rails.pastebin.org/90649
[05:32] <puff> I'm getting an error when trying to use aptitude...
[05:32] <crimton> edbian: http://pastebin.com/cjahGbA9
[05:32] <ricochet5> ariacus: No install log is running.
[05:32] <ricochet5> ariacus: Is it safe to stop the install?
[05:33] <ariacus> ricochet5: probably no
[05:33] <Furi> textboxes are no longer allowing input; how can i change the settings without input?
[05:33] <bullgard4> gonzaloaf: That is one of the first needed steps. Now analyze if your networking protocol stack is configured all right. For example your dhcp.
[05:33] <ariacus> ricochet5: who can say what happens behind gui?
[05:34] <ricochet5> Thank you.
[05:34] <ricochet5> I got it working now.
[05:34] <ricochet5> Hung for an hour, though.
[05:34] <edbian> crimton, That pastebin is blank
[05:34] <gonzaloaf> bullgard4, I had set up a static ip
[05:34] <crimton> edbian yea sorry hold on
[05:34] <TomTom435> blakkheim, they are hot swappable http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=341-5895&cs=04&c=us&l=en&dgc=SS&cid=27722&lid=628335
[05:34] <blakkheim> TomTom435: that is good
[05:35] <crimton> http://pastebin.com/riXXH5gt
[05:35] <TomTom435> blakkheim, I tried changing slots, no improve
[05:35] <bullgard4> gonzaloaf: IN that case DHCP is not important.
[05:35] <blakkheim> TomTom435: does the drive work in another computer?
[05:35] <Furi> it's X dependant
[05:35] <Furi> is there a way to open a terminal window without a panel?
[05:35] <TomTom435> blakkheim, I dont have any other machines
[05:35] <gonzaloaf> bullgard4, I see the ip correct, the nameservers in resolv.conf ok, I think maybe I have a problem with the default gw
[05:35] <lucent> TomTom435: hotswap requires software support
[05:35] <blakkheim> TomTom435: it's possible the drive itself is bad, so
[05:35] <lucent> TomTom435: call Dell.
[05:36] <TomTom435> ohh really ?
[05:36] <lucent> well... yeah if you know the drive is good
[05:36] <john> i just downloaded 10.10RC, installed google chrome on it, however it's asking i need to install flash.  When i try to install it, adobe.com tells me chrome already has it.  Anybody seen this?
[05:36] <TomTom435> blakkheim, should ubuntu detect it without going to BIOS ?
[05:36] <lucent> Dell business will hook you up with Linux drivers more than likely
[05:36] <blakkheim> TomTom435: yes
[05:37] <sweetpi> Furi: try ctrl+alt+t
[05:37] <TomTom435> blakkheim, o god, thats scary, the other 4 drives work as a single drive they are each 250gb
[05:37] <Furi> terminal doesn't accept input, either
[05:37] <crimton> http://pastebin.com/riXXH5gt edbian did you catch this one
[05:37] <edbian> looking now
[05:37] <lucent> TomTom435: you just put in your hot spare, right?
[05:37] <john> anyone know if there's a channel for google chrome?
[05:37]  * lucent waits for it
[05:37] <crimton> k thx
[05:38] <edbian> crimton, Is the usb drive plugged in right now?
[05:38] <crimton> yes
[05:38] <lucent> my failsense is tingling.
[05:38] <TomTom435> lucent, yes, shut off the server, hot swapped the new drive in and then rebooted, now cant find anything under /dev/
[05:38] <TomTom435> only hda*
[05:38] <gonzaloaf> bullgard4, Do you know why ping to the gateway fails?
[05:39] <edbian> crimton, sudo modprobe b44
[05:39] <lucent> TomTom435: needs software support, or if your machine has a backplane BIOS mode utility to configure the storage, do that
[05:39] <sweetpi> john: try #chromium-support
[05:39] <lucent> this is explicitly not an Ubuntu issue though it's Dell, need to stress that
[05:39] <Furi> is there a way to start a window manager without using the terminal, because nothing is taking keyboard input except for the fallback terminal?
[05:39] <TomTom435> lucent, I need to call dell for that support ?
[05:40] <crimton> edbian ok
[05:40] <Furi> an X-dependant window manager
[05:40] <john> sweetpi: thx
[05:40] <edbian> crimton, it worked?  error free?
[05:40] <lucent> TomTom435: well yeah if you paid for support go to it, and hope it works
[05:40] <coz_> Furi,  you can us  alt+F2  the run dialog  oh
[05:40] <coz_> Furi,  didnt keep up with your post
[05:40] <crimton> yea nothing really happened
[05:40] <Furi> coz_, i said nothing is accepting keyboard input
[05:40] <edbian> crimton, Check the little network applet thing.
[05:41] <lucent> Furi: what did you do before keyboard input went numb?
[05:41] <TomTom435> lucent, not sure we have the support option for our server, I think its 2 years old
[05:41] <Furi> start up the computer, and kill compiz because it kept looping compiz --replace and killing itself because of a pixcreate and pixdestroy error
[05:42] <bullgard4> gonzaloaf: I believe because your TCP/IP protocol stack is not properly set up.
[05:42] <crimton> edbian everything seems the same
[05:42] <edbian> crimton, mmmm
[05:42] <al_> Coz: ok - rebooted - now what
[05:42] <Eighteens> i'm trying to burn a dvd in 10.04 and it wont eject the disc, i've tried reburning 3 times, after looking at the ubuntu forums, i noticed others with the same problem, is there a workaround for this, or another burning program to download that works
[05:42] <coz_> al_,   ok open a terminal
[05:42] <bullgard4> Using OpenOffice.org Base 3.2.1. I have connected to an existing database, made a form and can search in it and find strings. But how can I write in it? I did not find a recipe using the Help function.
[05:42] <gonzaloaf> bullgard4, what is that?
[05:43] <al_> ok
[05:43] <lucent> Eighteens: too bad, not much you can do with the included tools to work around that.
[05:43] <coz_> al_,   ok copy and paste this command into the terminal       cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
[05:43] <coz_> al_,  you can do that easily by highlightin it here and simply middle click inside terminal window
[05:43] <breno_santos> Alguem sabe onde consigo baixar DVD do ubuntu.
[05:43] <coz_> al_,   tell if sba and fastwrites are supported and or  disabled
[05:44] <breno_santos> Anyone know where I can download Ubuntu DVD
[05:44] <Kevin1a_> Just out of curiosity, if I put desktop ubuntu on my system and then install the packages for ubuntu-studio, am I still getting the real time kernal?  Thanks.
[05:44] <Eighteens> lucent, track 1 seemed to burned, then when it started track 2 i got this error from the log 'Track 02:    0 of  697 MB written.Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error'
[05:44] <al_> coz: no agp subdir
[05:45] <Furi> is there any way to fix this?
[05:45] <coz_> al_,  is this an agp card? or built in?
[05:45] <Furi> my earlier problem mentioned
[05:45] <lucent> Eighteens: yeah, I said too bad, it's probably going to continue to be a problem because nobody is working on the fix for it
[05:45] <bullgard4> gonzaloaf: See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP/IP_model
[05:45] <lucent> Eighteens: there's some drama with the cd burning backend developers... well we users get no help for it
[05:46] <breno_santos> Anyone know where I can find DVD of ubuntu.
[05:46] <Eighteens> lucent: is there another burning app for 10.04 i can download, that you recommend
[05:46] <al_> coz: lapatop thus built in
[05:46] <ariacus> BrendenB:
[05:46] <crimton> edbian i know its supported because it connected when i was booted off the cd before install
[05:46] <twinkie_addict> brasero
[05:46] <ariacus> breno_santos: you have to make it youself
[05:46] <Furi> coz_, just to make sure you read this, i'm going to say it again, because i really need the help: start up the computer, and kill compiz because it kept looping compiz --replace and killing itself because of a pixcreate and pixdestroy error
[05:47] <coz_> al_,  ah ok   also when talking with somone  if you type the first 3 letters of thei name then hit tab  it will complete the name correctly and ping the person :)
[05:47] <edbian> crimton, My only guess is that Ubuntu doesn't like having both the usb adapter and the internal card at the same time
[05:47] <Furi> coz_, it was in reply to you asking what i did before the keyboard input stopped working
[05:47] <gonzaloaf> bullgard4, how can I solve that?
[05:47] <crimton> edbian the only reason i pulled the usb adapter out of the drawer is because i couldn't get the internal card to work :/
[05:47] <lucent> Eighteens: I've had trouble with cd burning on Ubuntu pretty much all around, there's good chances that CD-R burning works, but trouble with DVD-R/W/+ and CDRW
[05:47] <coz_> Furi,  ah ok
[05:48] <lucent> Eighteens: on many drives and platforms here, all failbound for Ubuntu :/
[05:48] <edbian> crimton, look at dmesg.
[05:48] <lucent> if it works then you're a lucky person
[05:48] <edbian> crimton, See any errors regarding your card?  You can pastebin it if you really want.
[05:48] <Furi> coz_, had to use fallback terminal, by the way, because the screen elements aside from the desktop background kept disappearing and reappearing repeatedly
[05:49] <coz_> Furi,  ooo  mm
[05:49] <PhillyP> o/
[05:49] <Eighteens> lucent: thanks for the info
[05:49] <lucent> Eighteens: if you're persistent, you might try cdrecord from cdrtools
[05:49] <bullgard4> gonzaloaf: I do not know every detail of Ubuntu server installation. State the exact error message which you obtain and ask other knowledgeable people here in this channel.
[05:50] <gonzaloaf> bullgard4, when I leave it in dhcp, it never gets an ip from the pool
[05:50] <lucent> again, drama.  I won't go into it but Ubuntu cd burning team burned bridges with the cdrtools author and ... you'd be best off to find a drive that works instead of making the one you have work
[05:50] <thedark1> Okay I have installed ALSA and PulseAudio but under Configuration tab under the PulseAudio volume control says "No cards available for configuration" and I don't get sound! Please help! :(
[05:51] <al_> my poor old dell d820 just aint up to decoding dvb-t
[05:51] <fr0stbyte> hi
[05:51] <bullgard4> gonzaloaf: As long as you have a fixed IP address, DHCP cannot get an IP address from its pool.
[05:51] <gonzaloaf> hello, can somebody help me to set up the network in ubuntu server?
[05:51] <PhillyP> Anyone know if there's a 9.10 netboot image available for download or ftp?  I'm setting up a Dell C400 and it seems that the best version that works is Karmic Koala :-/
[05:51] <Furi> coz_, is there any way to fix this?
[05:51] <fr0stbyte> I ran "sudo apt-get install deskbar-applet" but it's not showing up under Add to Panel, any ideas?
[05:51] <gonzaloaf> bullgard4, I have change to dhcp to test
[05:52] <rww> PhillyP: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/karmic/
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> fr0stbyte:  perhaps a logout/back in.. If it is a pannel applet. that should make the list refresh
[05:52] <coz_> Furi,  not sure  ,.. I apologize for not having paid close enough attention to your posts  to get a clear image of what is happening.... doing testing and bug fingding so my attention was severely  thinned out
[05:52] <fr0stbyte> thanks, ill try
[05:53] <bullgard4> gonzaloaf: In order to get better help here in this channel, state the error message that DHCP issues, together with your problem.
[05:53] <Furi> coz_, if you'd like some details, i'd gladly give you some. i really need the help.
[05:53] <crimton> edbian: http://pastebin.com/HPhNYeRS
[05:53] <breno_santos> Are there any brazilian here now.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> !br
[05:53] <edbian> crimton, That's not the output of dmesg.
[05:53] <edbian> crimton, It's the same as before.
[05:53] <crimton> shit
[05:53] <coz_> Furi,  well I think the more details posted here the more some one can get a better idea of the issue  ...I cant gurantee that will be me but posting detials is important
[05:54] <edbian> crimton, no worries
[05:54] <MaverickOne> !language | crimton
[05:54] <Juanma23> ola
[05:54] <Xuzz> So, I just installed 10.10 RC1 -- my first experience with Linux! Woohoo! :D. Anyway: I'm a Mac user usually, how can I remap the Apple/control keys so it works as in osx (Apple for like "select all", but "control-c" for "kill process" in a terminal)?
[05:54] <MaverickOne> !es | Juanma23
[05:54] <PhillyP> awesome, thanks rww
[05:55] <edbian> crimton, I think I know what the problem is.  The system needs to get firmware for the internet card to work.  I just need the command (which should be in dmesg) Just look for stuff regarding your wifi card
[05:55] <edbian> crimton, Or post bin it and I'll look
[05:55] <fr0stbyte> logging out worked, thanks
[05:55] <crimton> edbian http://pastebin.com/KsCBU14W
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> !manual | xuzz
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Xuzz:   theres the keyboard  and short settings.. but im not sure what you are tying to change. I dont use apples. :)
[05:56] <nobarking> at what time tomorrow will we be able to download Ubuntu 10.10 ISOs?
[05:56] <edbian> crimton, Well, ur not gonna like this but according to dmesg but interfaces become live and authenticated on some network.  So they both work fully.  This problem ends up with user error ;)
[05:56] <Xuzz> Dr_Willis: Mac OS X uses the "windows" (or "meta") key to do keyboard shortcuts (ctrl-c, ctrl-v, ctrl-z, etc), instead of the Control key -- I want to map my keyboard that way.
[05:57] <Furi> okay, so i started looking at emerald, getting new themes and such, but i just didn't think i liked it, because most themes didn't have shade button skins. so, i decide to use the previous window manager, which i believed to be compiz. i went to the compiz manager and set its startup window manager to compiz --replace, and started up compiz --replace. it started looping and i had no way out...
[05:57] <Furi> ...of it, so i restarted my computer and the same thing happened at start-up. i restarted again, but didn't login this time. someone suggested using sudo killall compiz in the fallback terminal, which is what i used. now i'm stuck, because keyboard input is no longer working and i can't do anything involving the keyboard. i need to start up metacity and maybe then it'll allow keyboard input.
[05:57] <crimton> edbian so what does that mean?
[05:57] <crimton> lol
[05:57] <crimton> as far aas my next step
[05:57] <edbian> crimton, It means it's working but you don't know how to use it
[05:57] <jumbers> nobarking: Generally seems to be from like 10AM-4PM EST in the past
[05:57] <edbian> crimton, :)
[05:57] <edbian> crimton, Take the usb drive out.
[05:57] <crimton> edbian: thats an understatement
[05:57] <Juanma23> sudo apt-get install ./home/Pentest/Backdoor.rb
[05:57] <Juanma23> :-D
[05:57] <edbian> crimton, Connect to a wireless network.  It will use the internal card
[05:57] <fr0stbyte> does anybody know how to force always opening a type of file with gnome mplayer rather than Movie Player
[05:58] <coz_> Furi,  well emerald is a window decorator and compiz a window manager  what you want to use is either  gtk-window-decorator  if on gnome  or kde4-window-deorator if on kde
[05:58] <edbian> crimton, All sings from the system point to it working just fine
[05:58] <Juanma23> tu ser gay
[05:58] <coz_> Furi,  compiz will not decorate the windows
[05:58] <AbhiJit> fr0stbyte, right click file->properties->open with->select mpaler
[05:58] <Juanma23> aki nadie entenderme porke vosotros ser gay
[05:58] <Furi> coz_, i know
[05:58] <Juanma23> y parlar ingles de tontos
[05:58] <Furi> coz_, i just want to revert to metacity
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> Xuzz:  proberly doable.. but no idea how.     Check the settings tools, theres a lot of options in Keyboard Perferances => Layout Tab. -> Options button
[05:58] <Furi> coz_, without keyboard input
[05:58] <Juanma23> no saben ablar español y soys gays
[05:58] <Juanma23> :-D
[05:58] <lucent> Furi: 'metacity --replace' is the way
[05:58] <coz_> Furi,  and no compiz?  metacity --replace & disown in terminal  or  alt+F2  metacity --replace
[05:59] <fr0stbyte> AbhiJit, thanks mate
[05:59] <edbian> crimton, You might have to reboot with the usb drive not plugged in
[05:59] <Juanma23> 10-10T08:50:05+04:00
[05:59] <AbhiJit> fr0stbyte, welcome
[05:59] <Juanma23> vosotros ser gay y basuras
[05:59] <Furi> coz_, how can i do that without keyboard?
[05:59] <Juanma23> no entendeis español
[05:59] <crimton> edbian ok rebooting because its saying no connections found
[05:59] <Juanma23> maricones
[05:59] <Furi> coz_, i can only use the fallback terminal
[05:59] <coz_> Furi,  oh !!!!
[05:59] <edbian> crimton, mmm, odd it does that
[05:59] <coz_> Furi,  mm
[05:59] <moetunes> !es | Juanma23
[06:00] <coz_> Furi,  not sure  ...how are you typing here?
[06:00] <Yojimbo_> Do ShipIt, and the Canonical store, only ship/sell 32-bit?
[06:00] <gonzaloaf> hello, I have installed ubuntu server, but the network is not working well, I have a realtek RTL8111/r8168 ethernet card and the module r8169 loaded, but when I try to set up a fixed ip or dhcp it doesnt work, can you help me to configure the network ok? it was working ok until I installed gnome-desktop environment
[06:00] <Furi> i'm on another computer...
[06:00] <maco> Yojimbo_: yes
[06:00] <coz_> Furi,  oh ok
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Yojimbo_:  i think so.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Yojimbo_:  theres oter places you an  buy the 64bit cd's
[06:00] <lucent> Furi: so, there's one keyboard shortcut that should still work correctly, CTRL+ALT+F2
[06:00] <Furi> will try
[06:00] <Xuzz> Dr_Willis: there's two that are /almost/ what I want, but not quite :(.
[06:01] <lucent> Furi: log in to the virtual console #2 after you get there with ALT+F2  (CTRL+ALT+F2 if you're inside X11)
[06:01] <coz_> Furi,  ok this one is a little odd... i cant off hand thing of any troubleshooting , if no one here can solve this right now you could try the ##linux channel as well
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> Xuzz:  some days you just have to learn the new OS.. and not make everything  'like' your old habbits..
[06:01] <lucent> coz_: I'm professional, I got this one baby
[06:01] <PhillyP> sorry...probably a dumb question.  Xubuntu 9.10 is the same as Ubuntu 9.10?  I noticed they're both Karmic Koala
[06:01] <Furi> coz_, oh, after logging back in because of the screensaver locking it, the keyboard input is back
[06:01] <coz_> lucent,  cool :)
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> PhillyP:  differance is the default Desktop
[06:01] <Furi> coz_, so i started metacity
[06:01] <Xuzz> Dr_Willis: I'm fine with that, but this isn't a "replacement" -- I still use a mac all the time.
[06:01] <coz_> Furi,  ah ha :)
[06:01] <toonacid> In regex, what does "!^(?:SOMETHING:ELSE:ETC)$" mean? I take it to mean do not match something, else, etc, but I need verification.
[06:01] <lucent> coz_: you may facepalm now.
[06:01] <Furi> coz_, i'm fine now; thanks for the help
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> Xuzz:  my old 'mac' is now a nice door stop.
[06:01] <Xuzz> hehe
[06:01] <PhillyP> Ahhhhh, so it's just something that I have to configure during installation then, correct?
[06:02] <coz_> lucent,  already  done twice :)
[06:02]  * lucent :)
[06:02] <toonacid> People!!! 10.10!!! :)
[06:02] <coz_> Furi,  no  problem...sometimes  logging off and on or just rebooting can solve issues :)
[06:02] <lucent> Dr_Willis: does your old mac run OSX ?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> lucent:  yes it does.
[06:02] <PhillyP> I tried installing 10.10 earlier tonight...the laptop's gpu couldn't handle it
[06:02] <PhillyP> :(
[06:02] <lucent> privmsg?
[06:03] <crimton> edbian: no change at the top where the connection icon is it has the 2 computers like its waiting on a lan connection
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> lucent:  that means at least i can use it for a ssh terminal. :) its an old PPC imac DV.
[06:03] <xTheGoat121x> Evening everyone
[06:04] <toonacid> PhillyP: 10.10 will be that awesome. So awesome your computer couldn't handle the awesomeness. :)
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> lucent:  it can only handle the OLD versions of OS-X, ive had ubuntu on it in the past. but theres always been issues with linux on it.
[06:04] <lucent> okay
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> I may try 10.10 on it. but its so old. its barely worth using for a SSH terminal.
[06:05] <toonacid> Dr_Willis: It may be of use as a router... You can use ANYTHING as a router nowdays. The most pathetic computers make the most powerful routers still. Just a suggestion, so you know.
[06:05] <Furi> back, guys...
[06:05] <gonzaloaf> hello, I have installed ubuntu server, but the network is not working well, I have a realtek RTL8111/r8168 ethernet card and the module r8169 loaded, but when I try to set up a fixed ip or dhcp it doesnt work, can you help me to configure the network ok? it was working ok until I installed gnome-desktop environment
[06:05] <Prez00> is the RC available for download same as GA code coming out or were there changes the 10.10 GA?
[06:06] <coz_> ok bedtime...be nice  share all you know
[06:06] <Furi> well, started it in terminal. exited terminal and thought keyboard input would remain after closing it, so i could run it in the run dialog
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> toonacid:  id have to use a USB nic thing for it.. and it cant do gigabit like the rest of my lan does.. :) so I will stick with my new GB  speed router..
[06:06] <Furi> i was wrong.
[06:06] <lucent> gonzaloaf: are you using config files, or are you using network-manager?
[06:06] <Furi> now i'm stuck where i was stuck previously
[06:06] <jumbers> Prez00: Unless something horrible was found, it's most likely going to be the same
[06:06] <Furi> i tried locking and logging back in, but that doesn't work
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> toonacid:  i'm slowly thinning out my old pc collection. :)
[06:07] <lucent> Furi: privmsg
[06:07] <toonacid> Dr_Willis: I'm using an old PC. :( Pentium 4. Ouch!!
[06:07] <gonzaloaf> lucent, config files
[06:07] <lyfe> ??
[06:08] <lyfe> Hello everyone
[06:08] <lucent> gonzaloaf: make sure /etc/network/interface is correct, reboot
[06:08] <lucent> network-manager may be interfering, it ignores anything that is configured in /etc/network/interfaces though
[06:10] <silverpearl> has any one here managed to get 10.10? the website doesn't have anything on it, but I've already seen a review article about it!
[06:10] <moetunes> !isitout
[06:10] <silverpearl> yay for bots lol
[06:10] <AbhiJit> silverpearl, read the channel topic its not releaset yet
[06:11] <mrb__> anybody has an Estimated Release Time !??
[06:11] <silverpearl> oh, didn't see that
[06:11] <silverpearl> thanks
[06:11] <avij> whoever is responsible for the topic could fix this: "IRC Guidelines: https://https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines"
[06:11] <kedy07> What are some things Ubuntu does to improve its security? I'm not talking about what you can do to it, but what it already does out of the box.
[06:12] <bullgard4> Using OpenOffice.org Base 3.2.1. I have connected to an existing database, made a form and can search in it and find strings. But how can I write in it? I did not find a recipe consulting the Help function.
[06:12] <kedy07> For example AppArmor comes installed by default, etc
[06:14] <Eighteens> i just alt f2, and typed update-manager -d, and it said "New Ubuntu release '10.10' is avaiable" and the button says UPGRADE
[06:18] <chu> !isitout
[06:18] <mrb___> anyone has a clue about the estimated release time !?
[06:22] <benhur> :D
[06:22] <benhur> can anyone suggest what youtube video downloader to install?
[06:22] <benhur> can anyone suggest what youtube video downloader to install?
[06:24] <blakkheim> youtube-dl
[06:26] <prayii>  /exit
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> benhur:  theres several firefox exstnesions that can do that.
[06:28] <Exploiter> http://www.downloadhelper.net/
[06:29] <moetunes> Exploiter:  it is good practise to comment why you paste a link - else it is spam
[06:30] <Exploiter> sry my bad
[06:30] <moetunes> np :]
[06:31] <Furi> after a bunch of trouble with stuff and finally reopening metacity, i found that none of the effects are working that i have set in compizconfig settings manager. the graphics settings is set to "custom", and i tried setting it to "extra" with no avail. i tried metacity --replace which isn't working either. can someone please tell me how to fix this?
[06:32] <snap> Anyone else experience the "starting file manager" bug in the early releases of 10.10?
[06:32] <moetunes> snap:  #ubuntu+1 might know
[06:32] <moetunes> check the topic pls
[06:33] <gonzaloaf> lucent, the problem was physic, I had to turn off my box for a while and now the NIC is working ok, I think something is wrong around here
[06:34] <Exploiter> furi compiz wont work until you tun compiz --replace
[06:35] <Furi> exploiter, i get the pixcreate and pixdestroy error and it kills itself
[06:35] <Furi> expoiter, but it worked previously before all of this stuff happened, i mean the effects
[06:35] <Exploiter> Furi: did you tried reinstalling..
[06:35] <Furi> i hate typos
[06:35] <Furi> exploiter, reinstalling? why?
[06:36] <Furi> exploiter, doesn't it clean the disc?
[06:36] <Furi> disk
[06:36] <lucent> gonzaloaf: bad APIC setting on the CPU/BIOS can cause that on older machines, also bad network cable (it's not a fairytale, it's real, I've seen it myself)
[06:38] <Furi> exploiter, is there an alternative?
[06:38] <Exploiter> furi: not sure, sorry
[06:38] <bullgard4> dmesg prints this line: "Using IPI No-Shortcut mode" What does IPI mean here? Intelligent Peripheral Interface or Image Processing and Interchange?
[06:40] <Furi> hey, i just realized something
[06:40] <rageinside> when is 10.10 going to be released?
[06:40] <fr0stbyte> is there any way to ctrl+v paste items in a subfolder when in tree mode? nautilus
[06:40] <Furi> i go into appearance and i realize the graphics settings are set back to "none" everytime i hit close and start up appearance again
[06:40] <Furi> is that because compiz is killed?
[06:40] <tal> can i install the rc with wubi?
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> October 10th is 50 hours long when you take into account the entire world.  We are only 40% through the day by this measurement, so be patient.  Ubuntu 10.10 will be out before '@now Pacific/Pago_pago' reaches midnight on the tenth.
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> ^^ fr0stbyte, also see #ubuntu-release-party note in /topic.
[06:44] <tal> is it possible to install the 10.10 release candidate with wubi?????/
[06:44] <moetunes> tal:  sure it is
[06:45] <tal> and what happens when 10.10 final comes out?
[06:45] <Coded1> Locusts, lots of locusts
[06:45] <Furi> i've tried reinstalling compiz, and all of the stuff related to it
[06:46] <Furi> and it still isn't working, none of the effects
[06:46] <tal> noooo would i have the stable version, or what?
[06:46] <Coded1> Once it's released the updated packages would make yours stable
[06:47] <Coded1> U don't need to reinstall
[06:47] <tal> ok sounds cool and so what do i do to get the stable packages?
[06:47] <kedy07> What's the difference between "$ sudo -i" and "$ sudo -s"?
[06:47] <Coded1> Just keep updating :)
[06:48] <ywl>  hello
[06:48] <ejv> kedy07: type `man sudo` in a terminal.
[06:48] <ywl> ???
[06:48] <ejv> kedy07: then use pgup/pgdown keys to scroll.
[06:48] <ywl> ri
[06:48] <kedy07> ejv: i did couldn't find -i option
[06:49] <ywl> what?
[06:49] <ejv> kedy07: then you didn't real the man pages carefully enough.
[06:49] <kedy07> ejv: nevermind
[06:49] <Coded1> I'm looking for a 'buntu distro smaller than xbuntu, currently downloading lubuntu any other suggestions?
[06:49] <ejv> s/real/read
[06:49] <kedy07> ejv: dunno how i missed it
[06:49] <blakkheim> !mini | Coded1
[06:49] <Coded1> Schaefer
[06:49] <Coded1> Lol
[06:50] <Coded1> Nvr mind
[06:50] <Coded1> Ty
[06:50] <ejv> !enter | Coded1
[06:51] <Coded1> Np Ty again
[06:52] <uLinux> hello
[06:52] <Eighteens> woo who, kd3 burned my dvd, wheras brasero kept failing on me, wasting several blank dvd's, oh i'm so happy, it was a rather large install tho, to download k3b tho, i think it was 270mb
[06:53] <uLinux> does ubuntu uses internet packet filtering?
[06:53] <uLinux> use
[06:53] <moetunes> Eighteens:  lots of kde libs would have been necessary...
[06:53] <alex87> anyone know of an alternative to google calendar? maybe a nice way of presenting ics files on the net?
[06:53] <eeproms> Eighteens: k3b needs the kde desktop base libs, k3b itself isnt big
[06:54] <cong06> eeproms: side question: if you installed brasero on kde, would it have a similar effect?
[06:54] <eeproms> cong06: yes
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> cong06:  it would pull in all the gnome libs it needs.. so yes.
[06:54] <Eighteens> i
[06:55] <Eighteens> i'm just happy it worked, wasting dvd's one after the other was getting frustrating
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> if you want gnome burning app - theres also 'gnomebaker' it proberly would be a smaller total download.
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> but K3b is so handy.. its worth having around
[06:55] <stoopkit> is 256megs too little ram to realistically use  ubuntu 1010?
[06:55] <cong06> eeproms, Dr_Willis, I don't. I use gnome. i was just curious. It made sense to me ;)
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> stoopkit:  depends on what you are going to do with it.
[06:55] <eeproms> stoopkit: yes, really need 512
[06:55] <jitu> anybody to help with oracle?
[06:55] <anjilslaire> agreed on k3b being handy
[06:55] <moetunes> +1 k3b
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> stoopkit:  Ram will be the major bottle neck. More ram would be a big boost in your case.
[06:56] <cong06> a while ago 256 was quite adequate. I guess they're adding alot more computer intensive software as default?
[06:56] <eeproms> stoopkit: you should install xubuntu really with only 256mb
[06:56] <jitu> anybody to help with oracle?
[06:56] <Furi> can someone help me about compiz and an error about createpixmap and destroypixmap?
[06:56] <stoopkit> thanks eeproms Dr_Willis
[06:57] <Furi> that error in specific isn't the problem, but i'd like to be able to execute compiz fine so i can have the effects
[06:57] <Furi> i mean
[06:57] <eeproms> stoopkit: install xubuntu and it should run like a new machine
[06:57] <Furi> it is the problem
[06:57] <Eighteens> the dvd burner that came with 10.04.1 and brasero both failed several times, wouldn't eject the disc, but k3b worked the first time, again, i'm so happy
[06:57] <jitu> anybody to help with oracle PL/SQL?
[06:57] <Furi> but compiz used to work just fine, and now it doesn't
[06:57] <stoopkit> eeproms: does xubuntu follow the same release schedule?
[06:58] <eeproms> stoopkit: pretty much
[06:58] <eeproms> stoopkit: xubuntu is a lightweight distro based on ubuntu
[06:58] <eeproms> stoopkit: same installer etc
[06:58] <blakkheim> xubuntu? lightweight? lol
[06:58] <Yojimbo_> I can't be the only one that reduces the font size on a new Ubuntu install to 8 or 9?
[06:59] <Andorin> Hey guys, on a brand new 10.04 install, how do I change the system-wide monitor refresh rate? It should apply to the login screen as well as the standard desktop.
[06:59] <eeproms> xubuntu runs fine on my old p4 laptop I use for hacking
[06:59] <mofaph> hi, all. How to check the EBR?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Yojimbo_:  i tend to Enlarge it to 12 or 13 - wife goes even higher.
[06:59] <shoiab> when ubuntu 10.10 will release ?? i am waiting
[07:00] <Furi> speaking of xubuntu, is there a package somewhere that implements some of its functions ubuntu lacks, such as customizing buttons, and the roll up button? emerald just isn't for me, because almost all of the themes for it don't have skins for the roll up button.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> Furi:  you would look into customizng/themeing the window maanger part of xubuntu,  or replaceing it with a different one. That shouldent be 'too' hard to do.
[07:01] <Furi> also, after selecting your profile, a drop down menu appears on the lower bar, for "session"... what is this for?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> Furi:  you can have other desktops installed as options. Gnome, kde, xfce, lubuntu, icewm, dozens of others
[07:01] <eeproms> www.xubuntu-look.org
[07:01] <Furi> dr_willis, i'm using ubuntu and want xubuntu functions
[07:01] <abhinav> release bot hook me up!!
[07:02] <Furi> dr_willis, not functions, but features
[07:02] <eeproms> or is that  www.xfce-look.org
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> Never noticed anything xubuntu had that Ubuntu dident...  clarify what you are meaning exactly
[07:02] <Furi> there was a window manager app, that allowed you to move the buttons on your window around, and add a "roll up" button
[07:02] <Furi> and i really enjoyed that
[07:03] <Sagan> Furi: roll up ? like shade function in fluxbox?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Furi:  metacity  has it where you can move the  close/min/max buttons.
[07:03] <Furi> yes, yes
[07:03] <Sagan> :) I like that :)
[07:03] <Furi> dr_willis, where?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> thats a feature of the metacity window manager.. thats what gnome uses.
[07:03] <Furi> dr_willis, i know
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Furi:  ubuntu-tweak and other tools provide a gui to do that 'tweaking' or theres gconf settings
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> !controls
[07:03] <neekers> silly question, how do i turn off the blinking cursor in terminal?
[07:04] <Furi> dr_willis, looked into it, only allows moving the buttons.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> Furi:  and what are you wantting to do to the buttons then?
[07:04] <Furi> dr_willis, shade button.
[07:04] <Sagan> neekers: what kind of terminal are you using? gnome-terminal? unicode-rxvt ?
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> Furi:  if you want a NEW button. You need to use a different window manager that has teh option. I belive..
[07:04] <eeproms> thank got for ubuntu tweak and its no brainer fix for the window buttons being on the left not the right
[07:04] <thedark1> god in heaven I need sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnnnnddd
[07:05] <Furi> dr_willis, tried emerald, but i couldn't find a theme that matched clearlooks and had the roll up button skinned
[07:05] <neekers> Sagan: whatever the default gui is in ubuntu 10.04
[07:05] <thedark1> I can't believe something that works perfectly on a livecd is this hard to fix
[07:05] <neekers> i just installed it
[07:05] <Sagan> neekers: ohh I don't use ubuntu distro
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> Furi:  make your own.. but emerald is basically a dead project.  So i dont use it any more..
[07:05] <Sagan> no idea what it is xD
[07:06] <neekers> heh
[07:06] <Furi> dr_willis, it isn't as simple as picture-done
[07:06] <Sagan> neekers: what is your default DE(desktop environment? )
[07:06] <Andorin> Hey guys, on a brand new 10.04 install, how do I change the system-wide monitor refresh rate? It should apply to the login screen as well as the standard desktop. (I'm seeing something on Google about configuring X, but its instructions are out of date.)
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> Furi:  i spent some time making emerald themes in the past.. it wasent too hard.. but i also perfer the very clean 'windowmaker' type look.
[07:06] <Furi> dr_willis, you have to take into mind that for every button you have to make 6 graphics for
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> I dont bend over backwards for eyecandy or fancy themes any more either. :)
[07:07] <momentum> how can I speed up ubuntu bootup on macbook pro? reift is really really slow
[07:07] <Furi> i just want the wiggling windows.
[07:07] <Furi> AND clearlooks
[07:07] <darkkrai> http://pastesite.com/19249 how to fix this?
[07:07] <darkkrai> ubuntu 10.10 64 bit
[07:07] <Sagan> Andorin:if you  use nvidia driver, you can : sudo nvidia-settings, and change refresh rates from there
[07:07] <neekers> i dont know, i just installed ubuntu, i only use ubuntu server and ssh into it with putty...
[07:07] <darkkrai> is there a way to convert metacity themes to openbox?
[07:07] <thedark1> GOD.... I JUST.... WANT.... TO INSTALL... MY SOUNDCARD....I INSTALLED PULSEAUDIO....AND ALSA.... AND I KNOW IT'S SUPPORTED
[07:08] <Furi> i can't bring compiz up
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> darkkrai:   summarize the issue. and  you may want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:08] <Andorin> Sagan: Nope, command not found
[07:08] <neekers> i just want to turn off this darn blinking cursor in the default terminal program
[07:08] <Furi> because of the createpixmap error
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> neekers:  its in the profile settings for gnome-terminal I thought.
[07:08] <Sagan> Andorin: do you use nvidia drivers?
[07:08] <thedark1> TEAR DOWN, THE COCKPIT DOOR... HUL KO-GAN
[07:08] <Andorin> Sagan: I'm guessing not.
[07:09] <thedark1> TAKE THE TWO PILOTS.... WHO HAVE ALREADY MADE THE SACRIFICE
[07:09] <neekers> Dr_Willis: i went through all of the settings, i found where it allows me to change the cursor type, block, underline, etc, but not turn off the blink
[07:09] <thedark1> ASSUME THE CONTROLS..... hul..... kogan
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> neekers:  i tend to use terminator these days..
[07:09] <soreau> Furi: Try #compiz
[07:09] <thedark1> PUT THAT PLANE INTO A NOSEDIVE HULL KOGAN
[07:09] <Furi> soreau, thanks
[07:10] <neekers> thedark1: up the meds, dude... :)
[07:10] <thedark1> And you will soon be close... to parts... un....KNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> neekers:  its a check box in 'terminator'   and terminator ises gnome-terminal as its base.. wonder why its not in gnome-terminal.. proberly a gconf setting to turn it off in tnome-terminal
[07:11] <thedark1> neekers: Not having sound for two days has driven me insane!
[07:11] <Sagan> thedark1: why don't we start with ALSA :]
[07:11] <neekers> Dr_Willis: installing now
[07:11] <amanthakur> can anyone help me installing OS from usb? I am able to boot from usb and kernel and inittial ramdisk is loading but image is not loading......any ideas
[07:11] <thedark1> it is installed
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> neekers:  plus i like all the other features terminator has over gnome-terminal
[07:11] <Sagan> thedark1: can you su into root, and run alsaconf?
[07:11] <blakkheim> Sagan: watch out suggesting that here
[07:11] <blakkheim> they get angry
[07:12] <Sagan> oh
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> sudo alsaconf    :) no need to  anything to.. root. :)
[07:12] <Loshki> neekers: xterm has +bc option to turn off text cursor blinking, if you don't mind such a lowly beast
[07:12] <blakkheim> you have to teach the ubuntu way instead of the linux way here
[07:12] <blakkheim> :/
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> I dont see why the blinking cursor is such a issue. :) but thats how linux users are . :) we are spoiled and want to tweak everything!
[07:13] <Sagan> Dr_Willis: I'm with you on the tweaking part, it's a constant battle :D
[07:13] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: I can see how just before a migraine you might not want the cursor to blink, or something...
[07:13] <thedark1> hmm... not found
[07:14] <thedark1> but I have all the packages installed
[07:14] <thedark1> alsa-oss, alsa-utils, etc
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Sagan:  i recall the old days of serial-printing-terminals.. :)    good for migranes..
[07:15] <thedark1> I will wire 5 dollars through paypal to whomever can get my sound working
[07:15] <twinkie_addict> i remember the green and amber screens on moniters back in the day god i hated them
[07:15] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: I remember punched cards...
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  :) and Analog computers?
[07:15] <Sagan> thedark1: did you double check your alsa settings? check with command : alsamixer , up the master, PCM, FRONT
[07:15] <bullgard4> Using OpenOffice.org Base 3.2.1. I have connected to an existing database, made a form and can search in it and find strings. But how can I write in it? I did not find a recipe consulting the Help function.
[07:16] <thedark1> there is only master
[07:16] <thedark1> no PCM
[07:16] <thedark1> no Front
[07:16] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: giving your age away, pal...
[07:17] <Curly_Q> Greets to Dr Willis.
[07:17] <ryan_> hey guys hows life on you end
[07:18] <Sagan> thedark1: interestsing, , if you are able to use root , type in alsaconf , it will auto config for you, then you can select sound device.
[07:18] <darkkrai> you want one response or all thousand of us?
[07:18] <Dan```> Hey guys.
[07:18] <ryan_> lol anyone who feels like talkin
[07:18] <Dan```> How can I manage the Applications menu categories?
[07:18] <AbhiJit> ryan_, all in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:18] <Curly_Q> Dr Willis, are you familiar with a Windows software called:  "Replay Media Catcher"? If so, is there a Linux Server and client version of it?
[07:18] <thedark1> alsoconf: command not found
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> Dan```:  you can edit your menus with the alacarte program
[07:18] <Sagan> thedark1: alsaconf, not alsoconf
[07:19]  * Dr_Willis give thedark1  a spell checker..
[07:19] <thedark1> oh....
[07:19] <rww> ryan_: try #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-release-party
[07:19] <thedark1> alsaconf: command not found
[07:19] <Sagan> ok wtf
[07:19] <ryan_> so is this just ubuntu newbs
[07:19] <neekers> ok, blinking cursor is gone, life is good again... thanks Dr_Willis :)
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Sagan:  i dont have an alsaconf here on this box either. :)
[07:20] <phil_in_london> ryan_ its all manner of 'ewbs
[07:20] <moetunes> !find alsaconf
[07:20] <Sagan> Dr_Willis: what ubuntu people use to activate sound?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis>  alsa<tab>  -> alsa        alsactl     alsa_in     alsamixer   alsa_out    alsa-utils
[07:20] <ryan_> ewbs?
[07:20] <wolter> i was moving a pdf file the other day and I think it got sent to /dev/null :S is there a way i can recover it?
[07:20] <neekers> has anyone here ever installed scratchbox2 ?
[07:20] <sweb> how much longer
[07:20] <Dan```> Dr_Willis: Because i'm using System> Preferences> Main Menu, but it won't allow me to add something into a category which it's not :(
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> wolter:  how could you even manage to do that?
[07:20] <sweb> 10.10
[07:20] <sweb> ?
[07:21] <wolter> Dr_Willis, haha, i mean i moved it but I never saw the moved copy of it
[07:21] <rww> sweb: Nobody knows, there's never a set time for these things. Party in #ubuntu-release-party ;)
[07:21] <Loshki> ryan_: it's primarily support: people ask questions, other people answer. Any chat/socializing happens on #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:21] <wolter> and I searched for it all over, without matches
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> wolter:  if it truely got 'moved' to /dev/null then its been deleted
[07:22] <ShredMaster> Hello, how can I make the background picture change from minutes to minutes?
[07:22] <Sagan> maybe I"ll try out ubuntu, but it seems bloated to me
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> wolter:  its possible its just lost somewhere... :) or has a name change..
[07:22] <el_seano> Sagan: as compared to what?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> Sagan:  bloat is a vague term...
[07:23] <Sagan> can you do a minimalistic install?
[07:23] <Sagan> from ground up
[07:23] <toonacid> Can someone help me with a regex? I need to match everything (entire group) that's NOT matched by this regex. http://pastebin.com/sKqLQxn5
[07:23] <wolter> Dr_Willis, well  I don't think it could have been moved to /dev/null specifically, but I do not know how did I manage to copy it and then lose it on the next second without doing anything
[07:23] <jimlovell777> I've been trying to figure out how to use RSYNC and Google searches tend to be geared toward off-site solutions. How can I backup a 70GB file from a local partition to an external USB hard drive? The USB drive isn't big enough to do anything but an in place update. The external drive already has a copy (outdated) of the huge file. I've checked the man pages but the differential update of the backup file never seems to actually execute.
[07:23] <neekers> Dr_Willis: how do i permanently increase window size to 100x40 in terminitor?
[07:24] <twinkie_addict> Sagan the alt install disk or minimal install disk do cli install
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> neekers:  check its settings.. i tend to just maxamize the thing.
[07:24] <wolter> Dr_Willis, I was literally moving from folder to folder, there were two files. I performed a rename to one of them, and then I saw they were not present in the destination location
[07:24] <Sagan> twinkie_addict: that is what Im looking for :D
[07:24] <thedark1> Dr Willis: I'm confused
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> thedark1:  from what ive seen.. i agree. :)
[07:26] <rocket16> Hello all
[07:26] <rocket16> Has Ubuntu 10.10 been released?
[07:26] <moetunes> !isitout
[07:27] <wolter> Dr_Willis, i was willing to find an undeletion method http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rm_(Unix)
[07:27] <Loshki> jimlovell777: can we see the rsync command line you've been using?
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> wolter:  i guess you can try. You did check in your 'trash' ?
[07:27] <wolter> yes
[07:27] <wolter> Dr_Willis, so undeletion is possible on ubuntu?
[07:27] <anjilslaire> rocket16: check #ubuntu-release-party for info on when it arrives
[07:27] <thedark1> Zing! Thank you Dr. willis
[07:28] <Dhilip89> !command
[07:28] <Dhilip89> !help
[07:28] <thedark1> that is why I cam here
[07:28] <thedark1> because I am confused
[07:28] <thedark1> but people like you, you just laugh at my confusion
[07:28] <thedark1> do you extend a helping hand? no, because you are here to laugh, not to give
[07:29] <thedark1> to help, but just see others sick
[07:29] <rocket16> anjilslaire: Oh, sure. Thank you.
[07:29] <uLinux> where id located iptables config?
[07:29] <uLinux> is
[07:30] <thedark1> well I'm getting sick.... because your lack of help is filling this room with a stench... and when it starts to smell bad enough, there isn't going to be anyone left but you and I... floating in the aimlessness of cyberspace... with the power of Ubuntu left untapped
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> thedark1:  im not even clear on what your original problem is,. and   am confused by many of your comments.
[07:30] <thedark1> I have no sound
[07:30] <anjilslaire> someone's getting bitter @ melodramatic...
[07:30] <uLinux> lol
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> thedark1:  when you ramble on and spam stuff earlier like you did, it tends to make people put you on ignore,
[07:31] <thedark1> what difference does it make
[07:31] <jimlovell777> Loshki: rsync --inplace --progress /media/original /media/USB/backup
[07:31] <thedark1> I've been asking politely since yesterday
[07:31] <thedark1> so I might as well feel the Power of the WARRIORRRRR
[07:31] <bullgard4> !sound | thedark1
[07:31] <jimlovell777> Loshki: original and backup in reality being /src/file.file /dst/file.file
[07:31] <thedark1> yeah I did the whole sound troubleshooting thing
[07:32] <thedark1> its been a day, I've looked at that stuff
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> thedark1:   and your  extra comments dont help. You may want to start over from the beginning and be as clear and concice as you can. its possible that your other 'fixs' have broken things worse. Its hard to tell.
[07:32] <Loshki> jimlovell777: I don't see anything wrong with it offhand, I'm checking the man page now, as I'm sure you've done...
[07:32] <thedark1> yeah, that is why I came here
[07:32] <bullgard4> thedark1: You did not. Otherwise you would have come up with an error message.
[07:32] <thedark1> I think all the other fixes have made it so confusing I don't know what to do
[07:32] <uLinux> Is it possible that Ubuntu is filtering ident packets?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> thedark1:  test #1 would be to try a live cd. see  if the sound works. ( once i had a dog chew the cables, so wasted a day over a broken cord)
[07:33] <thedark1> my error is, No Sound Card found!
[07:33] <thedark1> it does work
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> uLinux:  theres no default firewall rules on a new install.
[07:33] <thedark1> the LiveCD
[07:33] <a5h15h> not able to activate flymake-mode in emacs 23.1.1...it reports no build file found
[07:33] <rotem> Hi experts, I need some help, I've installed ubuntu 10.04 server and created a user, now when I log in i cant see the hostname@username, only $ and the tab autocompletion or arrows are not working, any idea how to solve it? thank you!
[07:33] <wolter> foremost <3
[07:33] <jimlovell777> Loshki: Yes several times, I don't see any problems either. I'm only trying to update one file, one big file. Google results only show remote examples which don't seem to help either. Is my file too big?
[07:33] <thedark1> and I said 5 times under PulseAudio that under the configuration tab it says there are no cards to modify
[07:34] <uLinux> Dr_Willis: when i type "iptables -L" it shows some default config :)
[07:34] <bullgard4> Using OpenOffice.org Base 3.2.1. I have connected to an existing database, made a form and can search in it and find strings. But how can I write in it? I did not find a recipe consulting the Help function.
[07:35] <thedark1> all I have it dummy output
[07:35] <Dhilip89> !isitout
[07:35] <quiescens> rotem: it sounds like you have the wrong shell set for the user
[07:35] <thedark1> all I have is* dummy output
[07:35] <rotem> quiescens:  thanks, do you know how to fix it?
[07:35] <Dhilip89> !
[07:35] <Dhilip89> !list
[07:35] <rotem> i have no problem recreating the user if that what we need
[07:35] <Dhilip89> !bot
[07:35] <jg47hm> hi Guys do you know how to ran windows applications without WINE (another program maybe)???
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> uLinux:  here it showes 3 catatories.. all 3 empty.
[07:36] <rww> Dhilip89: Please use /msg ubottu !factoidhere for investigating.
[07:36] <Loshki> jimlovell777: I've had the same experience as you. I had a file I wanted to update and I knew it only had certain blocks changed, but rsync didn't seem to generate the small deltas I was hoping for.
[07:36] <quiescens> rotem: easiest way from a terminal is sudo usermod -s /bin/bash [username]
[07:36] <ShredMaster> how do I make a changing desktop background?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> uLinux:  empty iptables rules output --> http://pastebin.com/KdMg3qMp
[07:36] <rotem> quiescens:  let me check
[07:37] <jimlovell777> Loshki: I wonder if it's a bug. I know RSYNC is supposed to be able to handle small changes and update only what's changed. I've yet to have it work though.
[07:37] <wolter> Dr_Willis, moved files are deleted with rm?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> ShredMaster:  the ombubuntu, or webupd8 ubuntu news sites had a 'script' that could make the gnome-style changeing wallpaper xml files a few months back
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> wolter:  moving a file to /dev/null is the same as deleting them
[07:37] <wolter> Dr_Willis, but a normal move through nautilus?
[07:38] <Loshki> jimlovell777: I recall experimenting with -B. The man page refers to a 'technical report'. Was there anything at http://rsync.samba.org/
[07:38] <quiescens> techically, you usually can't "move" a file to /dev/null
[07:38] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: "moving" a file to /dev/null makes no sense.
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> wolter:  Im not even sure how you would move somthing to /dev/null in Nautilus.. or why you are even using the term /dev/null :) its a very specific thing..
[07:38] <uLinux> Dr_Willis: yep :) default
[07:38] <uLinux> so it's not filtering
[07:39] <krzyhoo> to all: when is 10.10 going to be downloadable
[07:39] <rotem> quiescens:  Thanks man!! you saved me, i couldnt find it on google
[07:39] <krzyhoo> it still says: It's almost there
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Jordan_U:  lots of what hes saying about /dev/null makes no sence.. apraently he moved somthing and it vanished.
[07:40] <uLinux> !party
[07:40] <jimlovell777> Loshki: Nothing shown that helped. I just experimented with much smaller files and the command I posted a moment ago worked as expected.
[07:40] <darkkrai> anyone know of a good font that can diplay a lot of text?
[07:40] <quiescens> rotem: i don't know what you picked when you created the user, it should be using /bin/bash by default on new users
[07:40] <Jordan_U> wolter: What command did you actually run (if you used a terminal command)?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> wolter:  so he somewhere got the term /dev/null in his head. :)
[07:41] <rotem> quiescens:  I did this: sudo useradd -d /home/testuser -m testuser -g admin
[07:41] <moiso> hi there
[07:41] <moiso> today is a great day!!!
[07:41] <uLinux> it is
[07:42] <Loshki> jimlovell777: So, rsync fails just when you need it most. I always meant to chase this up on their message boards but it was a long time ago...
[07:42] <vivien_m> krzyhoo: you should ask at #ubuntu+1. There, they told me Maverick should not be delayed and should therefore be released today
[07:42] <moiso> -----feeling proud of this comunity!!!!!!---------------
[07:42] <jg47hm> hi Guys do you know how to ran windows applications without WINE (another program maybe)???
[07:42] <aaron11> !party
[07:42] <wolter> Dr_Willis, lol, that was just a joke! I meant that I moved a file (through GUI, Jordan_U) and though there were no errors, it never reached its destination
[07:42] <moiso> aaron11: party yeeeeeaaaaaa!!!!
[07:42] <toonacid> jg47hm: Other than Windows, I'm pretty sure WINE is the only viable alternative you have.
[07:42] <uLinux> moiso #ubuntu-release-party
[07:43] <hydrozii> anybody have any idea why my banshee is closing as soon as i open it?
[07:43] <moiso> ok ubottu
[07:43] <hydrozii> its pissing me off..
[07:43] <jg47hm> toonacid: thanks
[07:43] <Jordan_U> jg47hm: What is your actual end goal?
[07:43] <anjilslaire> it's shy?
[07:43] <quiescens> rotem: ah, useradd is lower level than most people tend to use, you might want to look at adduser, or just remember to use -s /bin/bash the next time you use useradd
[07:44] <hydrozii> its shy thats it!
[07:44] <atheotsky> !isitout
[07:44] <rotem> quiescens:  OK, thanks :)
[07:44] <trans> hello everyone
[07:44] <q1w> hi there
[07:44] <toonacid> Whoa, sweeeet.
[07:44] <toonacid> !isitoutyet
[07:44] <hydrozii> ugh this is so annoying..
[07:44]  * almostthar is f5'ing ubuntu.com
[07:45] <Jordan_U> almostthar: /join #ubuntu-release-announce
[07:45] <trans> I just installed 10.10 notebook edition, plymouth theme isn't working, how to modify its properties like resolution etc, Please guide
[07:45] <jg47hm> Jordan_U: im trying to play some games on ubuntu and wine has some probems. sometimes the program craches
[07:45] <jimlovell777> Loshki:  Yep just tried it again with my huge file. Today alone I made a several gig change in the file. I just ran the rsync command and it exited saying total transfered 31 bytes. Clearly something is wrong.
[07:45] <q1w> i use B43 driver and when i ckeck resources there is a process named irq/17-b43 that consumes 30%-80% CPU
[07:45] <Jordan_U> jg47hm: Have you checked appdb?
[07:45] <almostthar> trans, wait for final!
[07:45] <Jordan_U> !appdb | jg47hm
[07:46] <trans> ok, u mean when I update tomo do u think all the problems will be solved
[07:46] <vivien_m> There still a lot of updates in 10.04. I do not remember having seen so many changes in a release at the time the next release is out. Maybe the system is getting so big that there are a lot of bugs?
[07:46] <octavio-rdz> hi, ppl wondering does any body knows at what time ubuntu 10.10 in comming out? ... in what time zone ...
[07:46] <pmjp> is there a reason why the netbook version is very slow on my netbook
[07:46] <Loshki> jimlovell777: very worrying. If I were you, I'd go to their mailing list next...
[07:46] <D3luSi0n4L> !party
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> octavio-rdz:  no one knows.
[07:46] <trans> also I read some where in forums that ubuntu gonna have xsplash some thing like opensuse
[07:46] <jg47hm> #winehg
[07:47] <trans> is that true?
[07:47] <toonacid> jg47hm: You could try PlayOnLinux (free), or a commercial alternative. PlayOnLinux still uses WINE, but they tailer to make the games work more easily.
[07:47] <jimlovell777> Loshki: I'm nervous even running the command. I'm afraid it will corrupt my original AND the backup.
[07:48] <seidos> i can't seem to pinpoint what program needs to be running for xf86sleep to work (fn+suspend key).  any ideas?
[07:49] <quiescens> jimlovell777: it technically works fine on large files, it is most likely skipping the file(s) you think it is supposed to be syncing because it believes they are the same for one reason or another
[07:49] <john> .gvfs in my home dir is "d????????  ? ?    ?                  ?                        ?  .gvfs".   Does that mean my disk is corrupted?
[07:49] <b4xter> hi all
[07:49] <Loshki> jimlovell777: I understand. Can you make a local backup at all?
[07:49] <linux_probe> yikes
[07:49] <jimlovell777> quiescens: I'm looking in to that now.
[07:49] <quiescens> jimlovell777: you will want to consider -c or -I flags
[07:49] <quiescens> john: ?'s in ls output are likely permissions problems
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> john:  .gvfs is a special directory. how about the opther files/dirs?
[07:50] <bs0d> Hello everybody. I need to limit ingoing bandwidth on a server, what is the easiest way to do it?
[07:50] <john> Other files seem to be fine.
[07:50] <Loshki> jimlovell777: also, -n, so you can try stuff without doing any actual i/o
[07:50] <john> Btw, i just installed 10.10RC
[07:50] <anjilslaire> fix your perms: sudo chown -R user:user /home/user/
[07:51] <jimlovell777> Loshki: I can. Being 70GB it just takes a while. If the worst happened I'd only lose things created since yesterday. I keep my backups current. Problem is, until I figure this out I have to wait 30mins for the transfer every few days.
[07:51] <Mikerhinos> hi all , is Maverick still scheduled for today ?
[07:51] <quiescens> jimlovell777: by default rsync assumes files are the same if they have the same modification stamp and same file size
[07:51] <rww> Mikerhinos: sometime during October 10th, yes
[07:51] <john> I can't, it says permission denied
[07:52] <kedy07> What are some things Ubuntu does to improve its security? I'm not talking about what you can do to it, but what it already does out of the box. For example AppArmor comes installed by default, etc
[07:52] <hydrozii> seriously wtf is happening with banshee?
[07:52] <jimlovell777> quiescens: Do you know if I use the -c flag, will rsync do block level checksum matching or checksum the whole 70GB blob and go from there. The latter would take a long time.
[07:53] <kees> kedy07: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features
[07:53] <john> oh, nvm.  I found the reason.  I did "ls" as root instead of regular user
[07:54] <quiescens> jimlovell777: i believe rsync normally does checksums for individual files and then works down from there if there are differences
[07:54] <hcruz> Somebody knows the exact time of release for 10.10?
[07:54] <synackfin> how do I make ubuntu load additional modules?
[07:55] <quiescens> unrelated note: i vote that next time, we just list the release date as (day we are actually releasing)+1 just so that people don't have to ask
[07:55] <Diverdude> Is it somehow possible to play games on linux?
[07:55] <uLinux> Diverdude: depends
[07:55] <hcruz> @synackfin add the name of the module to /etc/modules
[07:55] <CoolCon> Wine
[07:55] <Siph0n> Diverdude, of course, there are lots of games that play in linux
[07:56] <uLinux> Diverdude: expect they are good as..
[07:56] <uLinux> imo
[07:57] <uLinux> Diverdude: if you try to run a game made for Window$ on Linux performance will drop
[07:57] <Loshki> jimlovell777: can I ask what application it is that generates such large changsets?
[07:57] <atheotsky> !isitout
[07:57] <Mikerhinos> Diverdude : if you like FPS i suggest you the Penumbra games , which you can have on Linux for like 40$ the 3 episodes package
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> New 'games on linux' site i discovered --> http://www.penguspy.com
[07:58] <jimlovell777> Loshki: It's a encrypted Truecrypt volume and I just added several gigs of pictures I took the other day.
[07:58] <almostthar> jimlovell777: /b/ folder?
[07:58] <almostthar> xD
[07:58] <Diverdude> And what if i forexample want to plat civilization or starcraft or counterstrike or medal of honor or the like? Is that possible?
[07:58] <bajdec> hey
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> !wine | Diverdude
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> Diverdude:  many of those work in wine. check the wine app database.
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | Diverdude
[07:59] <almostthar> Diverdude: hl based games runs great in wine, just like native
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> Diverdude:  if you like the Civilization games. check out 'freeciv' and 'freecol'   also.
[08:00] <Diverdude> hmmm but many of those games require directX. Is that nested in wine?
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> Diverdude:  yes.
[08:00] <Loshki> jimlovell777: well, disk space has never been cheaper. In your place, I'd buy a 1.5TB. You can keep a lot of 70G backups on one of those.
[08:00] <bajdec> I have a problem
[08:00] <almostthar> Diverdude: of course, i done stalker: SoC on wine
[08:00] <kedy07> kees: thanks!
[08:00] <schweegi> Diverdude: type "winetricks d3dx9" into a terminal after you have wine installed.
[08:00] <Loshki> !ask | bajdec
[08:00] <eboyjr> Happy birthday :)
[08:01] <Cory> Finally!
[08:01] <PhillyP> o/
[08:01] <eboyjr> Is ubuntu being released at 10:10 am and 10 seconds? lol
[08:01] <bajdec> I have HP probook 4515s (with AMD Turion) and Broadom's wireless. And on Ubuntu  10.10 RC cannot install wireless driver. Anybody knows whats wrong?
[08:01] <hcruz> lol
[08:01] <Guest83871> eboyjr: am or pm
[08:01] <kandinski> hi
[08:02] <eboyjr> I would hope am
[08:02] <Diverdude> so which phone do you recommend? Blackberry or HTC desire or samsung galaxy?
[08:02] <hcruz> hi kandinski
[08:02] <almostthar> and what timezone, if so?
[08:02] <kandinski> I have flashplugin-installer installed (and I just dpkg-reconfigured it), but my firefox says there is no flash, how can I fix it?
[08:02] <eboyjr> whichever the earliest is maybe
[08:02] <jimlovell777> Loshki: I have the local copy of the container which I update with customer files, code for my products, site backups, etc.. I then have a USB drive I sync to regularly and then a second USB drive I only update once a month. All of that on top of DVDs which contain any new data to be added so if all of my drives die I can build the container from disc. I just need to work on the off-site part of the solution. :-\
[08:02] <PhillyP> hey all...I'm trying to install Xubuntu 9.10 on my laptop.  is there a specific linux kernel I should be using?
[08:02] <CoolCon> Utc
[08:03] <hcruz> PhillyP which laptop?
[08:03] <PhillyP> A Dell C400
[08:04] <PhillyP> I tried installing 10.10 earlier tonight and encountered video issues, and I heard that 9.10 ran better on this particular computer so I'm trying again
[08:04] <hcruz> the generic kernel may work
[08:04] <mvk> today is the day 10.10.10!!
[08:04] <Loshki> jimlovell777: sounds like you have it covered. Wish I knew more about rsync. Keep asking. Lots of experts drop in and out on here...
[08:04] <mvk> is there a time/ estemation of when 10.10 will be available?
[08:04] <bajdec> mvk
[08:04] <bajdec> We know that :)
[08:04] <rigved> hi everyone
[08:05] <mvk> bajdec: ?
[08:05] <jumbers> Generally seems to be from like 10AM-4PM EST in the past
[08:05] <rigved> i have to modify the ubuntu kernel so that it can work like a distributed OS
[08:05] <rigved> this is for my college project
[08:05] <PhillyP> hcruz: cool, I'll try that.  do you know anything about the video issues that plague the C400?  I've been tearing my hair out over this project lol
[08:05] <jimlovell777> Loshki: lol, I try, I almost literally have all of my eggs in one basket.
[08:06] <rigved> i have a project guide who has worked on linux kernels before
[08:06] <mvk> jumbers: i dont know what EST is :/ :D
[08:06] <rigved> but what i wanted to know was is this really possible?
[08:06] <mvk> eastern time?
[08:06] <CoolCon> Utc-9 I guess
[08:07] <thedark1> aplay -l
[08:07] <thedark1> aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found...
[08:07] <eboyjr> est is utc-5
[08:07] <mvk> utc -9!!, that means it could be released any moment!!?!!?!?!?!
[08:07] <rww> !party
[08:07] <mvk> !party
[08:07] <jimlovell777> rigved: Ever heard of a beowulf cluster?
[08:07] <hcruz> PhillyP: you have to avoid compiz and all kind of desktop effects
[08:07] <juk> is it possible to update my dynamic ip?
[08:07] <rigved> jimlovell777: no i haven't
[08:08] <thedark1> YOU SEE
[08:08] <thedark1> I GAVE YOU THE ERROR
[08:08] <rigved> jimlovell777: what are these?
[08:08] <thedark1> THE MODULES ARE INSTALLED
[08:08] <jimlovell777> rigved: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf_%28computing%29
[08:08] <rww> thedark1: no need for the caps, thanks
[08:08] <CoolCon> I looked up utc-5 indeed that would mean another 6 hours
[08:09] <rigved> jimlovell777: ok, i'll check it out
[08:09] <mvk> thedark1: stop caps
[08:09] <Loshki> rigved: Also try ##programming. We mostly do support in this channel...
[08:09] <soreau> PhillyP: If you mean c400 dell computer, which graphics card does it have and what video issues are you having exactly?
[08:09] <amir_> hi every body
[08:09] <amanthakur> can anyone help me installing linux from pendrive? i am able to boot vmlinuz and initrd from usb but image is not loading.....any ideas
[08:09] <thedark1> okay, I need not the capitals, for my message is one that is purely ____out___ __of___ ___controooooooooool_________
[08:10] <rigved> Loshki: ok
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> amanthakur:  how did you make the pendrive?
[08:11] <juk> I don't shutdown ubuntu for a week and when weekend comes I get problem can connect to servers although I can reach em by ping, weird
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> juk:  i imagine the servers are getting updated right now. and may be getting ready for the 'storm'
[08:12] <PhillyP> soreau: yup, it's the Dell C400, with an Intel 830M Integrated Graphics Processor...right now my display is flickering and has these black lines going 45-degrees along the screen, but I'm installing 9.10, I haven't configured it to be Xubuntu yet
[08:12] <juk> Dr_Willis: Yes and I think because I don't shutdown my dynamic ip isn't changing and server think i'm dos bot
[08:12] <amanthakur> Dr_Willis, i used syslinux. using "syslinux -f /dev/sdb" then is placed vmlinuz initrd and syslinux.cfg in th pendrive. Then i copied all the contents of the DVD in th pendrive
[08:12] <juk> also I have bunch of torrents...
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> amanthakur:  why dident you use a tool like unetbootin, or the system-disk-creator?  or you can even set up grub2 to boot an iso file.
[08:13] <xorger> !isitoutyet
[08:13] <xorger> damn
[08:13] <xorger> i need ubuntu now :)
[08:13] <eboyjr> xorger: It will be out in < 3 hours or so
[08:14] <soreau> PhillyP: Yea, that chipset does not have the best driver support. If you have an agp or pci-e slot, I'd recommend getting any radeon or nvidia graphics card
[08:14] <Siph0n> eboyjr, how do you know that?
[08:14] <amanthakur> Dr_Willis, i tried to boot iso with syslinux but i didn't worked? can u tell me how to boot iso with grub2? i mean steps to do....
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> amanthakur:  you can only boot an ISO with grub2. as far as i know. Its documented in dozens of places.. see my links at http://delicious.com/dr_willis/grub2  (i think i typed tha tright)
[08:14] <internet> helo :)
[08:15] <juk> Dr_Willis: so is there way I can update my dynamic ip to get new one
[08:15] <eboyjr> Siph0n: Because it is supposed to be out by 12:00 samoan time
[08:15] <xorger> eboyjr: are you in the rc by change
[08:15] <xorger> chance*
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> juk:  ive never had the issue.   depends on how you are connected also.
[08:15] <PhillyP> soreau: Well...if I didn't get the laptop for free I'd spend the money to put in a better graphics processor.  But it doesn't even have internal optical drives, I'm just going to use it for surfing and whatnot
[08:16] <eboyjr> xorger: No I'm in 10.04.. i like a fresh hot-off-the-iso clean install
[08:16] <thedark1> 왜 그래요 개 색이 시발 당신들이 지옥으로 가!
[08:16] <amanthakur> Dr_Willis, i need to create login for that...:)
[08:16] <eboyjr> thedark1: This is not a korean channel
[08:16] <bs0d> What commands do I need to type to limit incoming bandwidth on eth0 to 1 mbps?
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> anjilslaire:  never noticed..
[08:16] <sickn3s> Hey guys
[08:16] <thedark1> porque nosotros no me ayudar
[08:16] <juk> Dr_Willis: I suppouse you in europe or us, well I have router
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> amanthakur:  i can see the tags/urls on delicious without being logged in..
[08:17] <eboyjr> thedark1: Te podemos ayudar si habla el ingles
[08:17] <mnet> this was ok before, but now sound is only coming out of headphones, and when they are unplugged the laptop speakers don't kick in. they are ok in win though. can i reset something?
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> juk:  i use a router.. i have neer had the servers block my ip#.
[08:17] <sickn3s> I want to know how to pair a device through the Terminal. And also how to set the PIN code for the Bluetooth device
[08:17] <synackfin> how do I make ubuntu use /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> juk:  im not even sure how you are sure thats the 'issue'
[08:18] <thedark1> I'll be back!
[08:18] <synackfin> I want to make Ubuntu disable the gnome network-manager  and use /etc/network/interfaces (like the ubuntu-server install)
[08:18] <juk> Dr_Willis: xD
[08:18] <Siph0n> synackfin, I think it automatically uses it when you boot up
[08:18] <sickn3s> I want to know how to pair a device through the Terminal. And also how to set the PIN code for the Bluetooth device
[08:19] <synackfin> Siph0n: unfortuantely it doesn't -- it's using the gnome NetworkManager instead
[08:19] <Siph0n> remove gnome network manager ? thats what I do always
[08:20] <sickn3s> Cause BackTrack cant Pair with a device
[08:20] <juk> din't they say it'll be out 10.10.10
[08:20] <synackfin> Siph0n: what's the package name for it?
[08:20] <Siph0n> network-manager-gnome , I think ?
[08:20] <toonacid> !isitoutyet
[08:21] <eboyjr> toonacid: It will be out in < 3-4 hours
[08:21] <Siph0n> synackfin, check in Synaptic, to see if network-manager-gnome is checked
[08:21] <PhillyP> now if I'm not dual-booting, is it advantageous to use GLIB over LILO or vice versa?
[08:21] <dfa> bonjour tout le monde
[08:21] <quiescens> technically network-manager
[08:21]  * toonacid is happily waiting. :)
[08:21] <dfa> oups eng chat ^ ^
[08:21] <Siph0n> toonacid, or just wait in #ubuntu+1 , as the sticky in the forums says to do.
[08:21] <quiescens> network-manager-gnome is front end bit itself
[08:22] <eboyjr> toonacid: Or #ubuntu-release-party
[08:23] <thedark1> DeaR GoD sTill nO SoUnd
[08:24] <juk> !when
[08:24] <mnet> i have a sound issue too
[08:24] <thedark1> like, you don't have any?
[08:24] <thedark1> has anyone helped you?
[08:24] <thedark1> I mean, I do everything they ask
[08:24] <thedark1> I give error messages
[08:24] <thedark1> specificy the problem
[08:25] <thedark1> but nobody cares
[08:25] <mnet> well not as bad. i don't have any coming out of speakers, even when headhones unplugged (it's a laptop)
[08:25] <sickn3s> I want to know how to pair a device through the Terminal. And also how to set the PIN code for the Bluetooth device
[08:25] <thedark1> so now, I am like a dog chasing cars
[08:25] <sickn3s> Cause BackTrack cant Pair with a device
[08:25] <anjilslaire> uh oh we have a goat, we don't need any se
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> sound issues can be very hard to trouble shoot. and 'fix's that may have been tried can make the problem even worse.
[08:25] <dfa> Hi, i need help to install ubuntu on my mom's computer, the wifi driver (atheros AR5001X), i've installer the maedwifi package but it's not working, can anyone help me?
[08:25] <thedark1> Dr.Willis: I know, that is why I am looking for guidance
[08:25] <soreau> PhillyP: grub and lilo are boot loaders, of which grub is typically preferred by major linux distributions
[08:25] <moetunes> thedark1:  your attitude bites is why I haven't chipped in with advice
[08:25] <thedark1> I know I caused my own problem by working by myself through tutorials on the forms
[08:26] <thedark1> forums*
[08:26] <thedark1> trying to fix a lesser problem
[08:26] <phil_in_london> sickn3s, have you installed bluemon or blueman to manage your bluetooth, or do you need to do all this on the command line?
[08:26] <thedark1> yeah well whatever, nobody helped me for like 24 hours, including you
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> It may be easier to just backup your improrntant stuff and install 10.10 when it comes out.
[08:26] <mnet> you've been here for 24 hours?
[08:26] <thedark1> you just are annoyed so that is a convenient excuse
[08:26] <thedark1> when is 10.10 coming out?
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> thedark1:  in a few hrs.. or mins..
[08:27] <thedark1> back and forth mnet, I do have a life of some kind
[08:27] <dfa> lol!! yes 10.10, didn't think of that!
[08:27] <mnet> thedark1: see that's your problem. it would have been long fixed otherwise
[08:27] <thedark1> well I can't sit here non-stop
[08:27] <maco> thedark1: #ubuntu-release-party, but the answer to your question is "while it is 10-10-10 in at least one timezone on the planet terra in the system sol"
[08:27] <thedark1> I have meetings to keep and stuff
[08:28] <anjilslaire> lol @mnet
[08:28] <moetunes> thedark1:  go away pls
[08:28] <maco> moetunes: be nice
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> ive been backing up all day (well the last 2 hrs) getting ready to do a 10.10 clean install on this old box. :)
[08:28] <mnet> i have a completely unrelated question: if i have an encrypted home folder, how does a reinstall handle that?
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> I dont even have speakers on it.
[08:29] <soreau> thedark1: Which audio card do you have in the output of 'lspci'?
[08:29] <thedark1> that is actually really good news about 10.10
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> mnet:  i would make backups to an unencrypted location just in case.
[08:29] <ylmfos> is this the server that talk about ubuntu,guys?
[08:29] <mnet> Dr_Willis: in case means that it would automagically handle it?
[08:29] <thedark1> soreau: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[08:29] <anjilslaire> no, we're discussing goats
[08:30] <ylmfos> i see
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> mnet:  it should i would hope.. but i see people in here all teh time with issues with encrypted homes. and needing badly to get to their data and they cant figure out how.
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> mnet:   i dont use the feature.
[08:30] <Didji> I know it's off topic, but does anyone know if external HDD have a maximum capacity, and if so why?
[08:30] <dfa> non that's the server who discuss of pope's hidden children ^^
[08:30] <Mathuin> !isitout
[08:30] <Mathuin> Gah!
[08:30] <mnet> alright thanks
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> Didji:   external usb hds ive seen can use any IDE/sata drives ...  depending on the 'bay' they are using.
[08:31] <quiescens> it should™ manage just fine, people just tend to run into issues with encrypted homes because they expect it to be the same as the old home directories
[08:31] <Didji> Dr_Willis: That's what I thought.  Weird that I'm seeing them with a maximum capacity stated.
[08:31] <Kurdistan> how many hours is it left for maverick stable release
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> Didji:  its possible the USB controller In the 'bay' may have a limitation
[08:31] <zcat[1]> Kurdistan:  less than 48 ?
[08:31] <anjilslaire> didji: mine do that too
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> Didji:  im using 2TB usb hd's here. with no issues.
[08:32] <Didji> Dr_Willis: Mm, maybe.  I'm talking terrabytes.
[08:32] <Didji> anjilslaire: yours do what?  Have a limit, or don't have a limit?
[08:32] <soreau> thedark1: Can you pastebin the output of 'lspci -v | less' for your card to pastebin.com?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> Didji:  i would be impressed if a  USB controller/bay made 5 yrs ago would work with them. :) but those are all IDE.. these are sata drives.. so i cant test. heh
[08:32] <quiescens> people often don't realise their files are actually in /home/.ecryptfs/(user) rather than /home/(user) and then don't bother asking for help until they've already lost one or the other
[08:32] <thedark1> sure, thanks soreau
[08:32] <Kurdistan> zcat when I go to ubuntu.com they say its almost here
[08:32] <mnet> still, it would be nice to avoid a reinstall here. maybe just the sound system can be reset?
[08:33] <Kurdistan> not one day or two
[08:33] <mnet> it will be out within 24 hours
[08:33] <Siph0n> Kurdistan, there is no exact time that it is released. check in #ubuntu+1 or the release party chan
[08:33] <anjilslaire> no apparent limit, but state the size of the drive. Maybe I'm confused on the subject
[08:33] <zcat[1]> Kurdistan:  traditionally they seem to wait until the last hour of the most delayed timezone of release day.. in NZ it's usually almost two days after 'the day'
[08:33] <feisar> where's the party channel?
[08:34] <xorger> which kernel will ubuntu 10.10 ship with?
[08:34] <mae_tae> people, how will i check if squid is running?
[08:34] <rww> !party | feisar
[08:34] <zcat[1]> Kurdistan:  also #ubuntu-release-party ;)
[08:34] <rww> xorger: 2.6.35
[08:34] <xorger> thanks rww
[08:35] <soreau> mae_tae: If it's a typical process, 'ps ax|grep squid'
[08:35] <Dr_Willis>  or 'sudo service status SERVICENAME'
[08:35] <mnet> i refuse to believe that among 1395 people there's not a single one who's both here and knows how to do a "reset" of a the sound system (pulse something or alsa, i believe)!
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> mnet:  could be they are busy. Personally ive neer had the issue.. i dont even have speakers hooked to this pc. :)
[08:36] <mae_tae> thanks
[08:36] <soreau> mnet: Just because there are a lot of nicks logged doesn't mean they are all present or all even human
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> 'release day' is like xmas morning in #ubuntu
[08:36] <thedark1> soreau: http://pastebin.com/biWxM85W
[08:36] <rigved> jimlovell777: thanx
[08:37] <rigved> Loshki: thanx
[08:37] <mnet> yes, which is why i said are here...
[08:37] <rigved> on the wiki page, i found a Ubuntu-based OS called ABC-Linux
[08:37] <scotsguy> how do i chnage themes in xchat??
[08:37] <rigved> has anyone ever used it?
[08:38] <soreau> thedark1: It says the kernel module (driver) loaded is snd_hda_intel is loaded. Does lsmod confirm this?
[08:38] <soreau> thedark1: It says the kernel module (driver) loaded is snd_hda_intel. Does 'lsmod|grep intel' confirm this?
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> rigved:  theres dozens of ubuntu variants. Most ive tried. are not  worth useing.
[08:40] <Friar> I have a text file that is almost a programming language. I would like to customize either gedit or emacs to do some color formatting on the text file...can this be done?
[08:40] <sanu01> guys am trying to backup my system but rsync seems slow in incremental and first time backup. is there a faster one?
[08:40] <sanu01> i mean my files are many and rsync when doing incremental backup it takes time
[08:40] <mnet> i'm on mint. it's not bad
[08:40] <rigved> Dr_Willis: Tru, but this variant: ABC-Linux, is built for a distributed environment
[08:40] <rigved> *True
[08:40] <Loshki> rigved: the nice thing about using a variant that's very popular is that there's lots of support...
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> rigved:  nice buzzword term. :)
[08:41] <Friar> sanu01, it is always slow the first time. depending on how much stuff you are backing up. It took me about an hour to backup 500GB of movies and music, and pictures...but after the initial time, it runs very quickly.
[08:41] <thedark1> soreau: http://pastebin.com/vcG2Jvvq
[08:42] <mnet> Loshki: although, right here and now support is hard to come by
[08:43] <sanu01> Friar: yea first time was slow :( ok now say i want to restore the backup...i can just copy and paste it yea? or i need rsync again?
[08:43] <soreau> thedark1: Interesting.. it seems the module may not be loaded. Can you pastebin the output of 'modinfo snd_hda_intel'?
[08:43] <gartral|d> how do i set the grub.lst in 10.04
[08:43] <rigved> Loshki: Again true, but I do not really have to use it, I just need to demonstrate a Distributed OS  using 2-3 computers for my project
[08:43] <MaverickOne> !party
[08:43] <SwedeMike> !grub2 | gartral|d
[08:43] <mae_tae> people, how will i forward the internet connection to our local network? scenario is like      modem -----> switch -----> WAN NIC (120.xxx.xx.xx) SQUID server  LOCAL NIC (192.168.4.41) ------> pc (192.168.4.113)
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | gartral|d
[08:44] <mae_tae> i cannot internet from 4.113 host
[08:44] <rigved> Loshki: And the terms here are that I have to make it (maybe by copying code from other variants
[08:44] <Visseroth> need some help here, how do you identify what hard drive is what device. I know the size of the drive, I just don't know what device it is, like sda sdb, stuff like that
[08:44] <thedark1> soreau: http://pastebin.com/uX8uNTJg
[08:44] <PhillyP> dumb question. what's the difference between GRUB and LILO?
[08:44] <soreau> thedark1: Try to load the driver module with 'sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel' then check your audio settings (if there is no error)
[08:44] <SwedeMike> Visseroth: lsscsi might be some help, blkdev as well
[08:45] <Loshki> mnet: it's a Saturday night before a release. I *hope* people are having a good time...
[08:45] <Visseroth> swedemike, ty
[08:45] <magnetron> Visseroth: use the Disk Tool that you can find in the System > Administration menu
[08:45] <Friar> sanu01, I have just copy a pasted the folders back to wherever they needed to go. be careful about the formatting of the drive you are backing up to though. I once did a backup of my /home. when I tried to copy it back all the permissions were screed up. ntfs formatting won't keep your linux permissions. I learned that the hard way, now all my backup devices are ext4....short answer, yes, just copy and paste the folders back to where yo
[08:45] <Friar> u want them.
[08:45] <SwedeMike> Visseroth: sorry, blockdev
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> PhillyP:  LILO is very very old.. got replaced by 'grub'  - whichis now called grub-legacy, we are currently in the 'grub2 era' ;)
[08:45] <rww> PhillyP: they're both bootloaders; LILO is old and more annoying.
[08:45] <Visseroth> ok, thank you both, going to look at it now
[08:45] <mae_tae> help me please
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> PhillyP:  syslinux is another bootloader you may hear about.
[08:45] <PhillyP> Ahh, but as a general rule, if you're installing anything above 9.10, you should be using GRUB2?
[08:46] <mae_tae> routing table contains only the WAN IP & localnet which is 4.0 network, dont have default
[08:46] <Loshki> Friar: if you ever have to backup to ntfs again, make a compressed tar and save that instead...
[08:46] <PhillyP> Dr_Willis: never heard of syslinux, but I'm really computer-inclined, at least the mystic code part lol
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> PhillyP:  its mainly used on CD's and flash drives.
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> PhillyP:  grub2 can replace it in many cases these dasys
[08:47] <sanu01> Friar: yea well i formated my 2tb drive to xfs so i dont think it will be a problem
[08:47] <soreau> thedark1: If there is an error, pastebin it of course
[08:48] <PhillyP> Ahhhh, I see.  Right on, I was going to ask which loader to use as soon as I got to the part of the installation, so thanks for the early answer lol :)
[08:48] <Friar> Loshki, thanks. that makes sense. do you know how to do that with rsync? I know one of the options is to compress the data, but how would you make it into a .tar?
[08:48] <sanu01> Friar: i just hope the music files i backup from ntfs to xfs wont be a problem when i restore them back to the ntfs disk
[08:48] <thedark1> soreau: it shows a soundcard under the configuration tab under volume control
[08:48] <soreau> thedark1: That is a good sign. Does it work though?
[08:48] <thedark1> soreau: I have it set to analog stereo output
[08:49] <thedark1> soreau: testing now
[08:49] <soreau> thedark1: ok
[08:49] <mae_tae> soreau & Dr_Willis, could you help me please?
[08:49] <Friar> sanu01, music files aren't much of a problem with permissions, you can always change them back to 755. the big problem is all the config files that are in a /home folder. the permissions for those aren't all the same, and if they're wrong you can run into some problems when trying to do things.
[08:49] <mae_tae> soreau & Dr_Willis, could you help me please?
[08:50] <phil_in_london> mae_tae, did you get server 10.04 installed?
[08:50] <thedark1> soreau: rhythmbox plays files, but no sound
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> mae_tae:  i dont  do much 'networking' tweaking these days. i cant rember the last time i had to even look at the routeing tables.
[08:50] <thedark1> value is set to max
[08:50] <Friar> sanu01, I'm not familliar with xfs file systems, so you'd have to check that out...but as loshki stated, a simple work around is to make a .tar and then put it on the backup drive.
[08:50] <soreau> mae_tae: perhaps you should try #networking
[08:50] <soreau> mae_tae: I'm not really familiar with squid
[08:51] <thedark1> soreau: vlc, also plays but no sound :(
[08:51] <mae_tae> phi_in_london, yes, thats what im configuring right now
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> thedark1: i had a odd laptop that had a similer issue ages ago.. system Looked like it was playing with no sound.. the 'alsamixer' in a terminal, had a volume slider set down. that was the issue.
[08:51] <soreau> thedark1: Can you run 'alsamixer' and screenshot the terminal then upload to picpaste.com?
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> thedark1:  it had somthing to do with the  'master' and 'pcm' channels being reversed.
[08:51] <mae_tae> phil_in_london, how do i forward it?
[08:52] <phil_in_london> mae_tae, it was squid wasn't it?
[08:52] <MarkusH> does anybody know when the 10.10 comes out today?
[08:52] <Loshki> Friar: Better to use the 'tar' command to make the tarfile, then copy via rsync, so something like this: tar -cvjf archive.tar.bz <directory or files...>
[08:52] <thedark1> dr willis: thank you for helping. But, as I said before, I only have a master channel. no PCM channel
[08:52] <D3luSi0n4L> hey can someone help me with .rar's please
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> thedark1:  that is very very weird then.
[08:52] <Aemaeth> is there any way to make ubuntu play a sound when it asks for authentication?  I want to play the beginning of Serenity when the Doctor finds the assassin in the lab and says "I need your authentication" and assassin responds, "And you are right to ask..."
[08:53] <mae_tae> phil_in_london, its squid, but i wonder i cannot forward the internet
[08:53] <abhinav> what would be a good backup program?
[08:53] <D3luSi0n4L> whe ni try to extract it or open it, it tells me that its an unsupported file
[08:53] <phil_in_london> mae_tae, what are you trying to forward? from where?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> D3luSi0n4L:  install the proper rar packages and the archive manager should be able to open them
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> !rar | D3luSi0n4L
[08:53] <abhinav> what would be a good backup program?
[08:53] <Friar> Loshki, thanks. I'll give it a shot...what is .tar.bz? I think I read that the bz is an additional level of compression.
[08:53] <MarkusH> D3luSi0n4L: please install the program unrar
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> abhinav:  depends on how you are wanting to back things up and how you want to restore them
[08:54] <Aemaeth> always confuses me when rar isn't installed
[08:54] <soreau> thedark1: Now, please pastebin the output of 'lsmod|grep snd'
[08:54] <MarkusH> D3luSi0n4L: open a terminal and type        sudo apt-get install unrar
[08:54] <D3luSi0n4L> ty guys
[08:54] <soreau> thedark1: I suspect you do not have all the necessary modules loaded
[08:54] <mae_tae> phil_in_london, this is the scenario from  modem -----> switch -----> WAN NIC (120.xxx.xx.xx) SQUID server  LOCAL NIC (192.168.4.41) ------> pc (192.168.4.113), i want to have an internet access from 4.113 host
[08:54] <abhinav> @Dr_Willis: I want a simple one with clean ui which even my grandfather can use
[08:54] <rww> Friar: .tar is a format that takes a bunch of files and groups them into one file without any compression. .gz takes one file and compresses it. .tar.gz is a .tar file that's been .gz ed
[08:54] <D3luSi0n4L> ok i typed it into termial
[08:54] <soreau> mae_tae: Is the WAN NIC installed in the squid server?
[08:54] <D3luSi0n4L> and it went to the next line, nothing opened?
[08:55] <gartral|d> anyone do n update from ubuntu UNR 10.04 to 10.10?
[08:55] <mae_tae> soreau, yes..... one of the interface there
[08:55] <D3luSi0n4L> gartral i did
[08:55] <MarkusH> D3luSi0n4L: you are asked for your normal password
[08:55] <D3luSi0n4L> it took a very long time
[08:55] <soreau> mae_tae: How far is the internet reaching currently?
[08:55] <D3luSi0n4L> ahh
[08:55] <D3luSi0n4L> good cool =P
[08:55] <D3luSi0n4L> ty
[08:55] <D3luSi0n4L> call*
[08:55] <FloodBot3> D3luSi0n4L: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:55] <gartral|d> D3luSi0n4L: any problems?
[08:55] <mae_tae> soreau, its an ordinary nic, with public ip address
[08:55] <espero_linuxien> hello !
[08:55] <D3luSi0n4L> gartral, none at all
[08:56] <D3luSi0n4L> just took like 3 hours
[08:56] <soreau> mae_tae: Which component has the internet if any?
[08:56] <gartral|d> D3luSi0n4L: method?
[08:56] <D3luSi0n4L> downloading it wasnt the problem, installing em
[08:56] <D3luSi0n4L> update-manager -d
[08:56] <D3luSi0n4L> through the terminal i believe
[08:56] <Loshki> Friar: archive.tar.bz is just a name I chose, to show that the contents are a tar file which has also been compressed with bzip (this is configurable/optional). If you do compress the tar file (-j), do not use also compression with rsync, because compressing an already compressed file usually makes it bigger and always uses up cpu time...
[08:56] <terminalvelocity> mic only works somtimes for HP dv4 with lucid.....driver issues....pulseaudio issues? mic normally works after reboot but somtimes not, and programs that use it normally kill the mic after some time but not at first.....what could it be?
[08:56] <abhinav> please sugest  a simple back up with clean ui which even my grandfather can use
[08:56] <chalet16> Will there a PHP 5.3 official backport for lucid?
[08:56] <chalet16> *PHP5.3.3
[08:56] <thedark1> soreau: http://pastebin.com/wZYSXKEC
[08:57] <gps23> hello
[08:57] <D3luSi0n4L> awesome unrar works great
[08:57] <thedark1> Dr.Willis: And I guess that means I am not the only one confused, huh?
[08:57] <mae_tae> soreau, i believe that modem has an internet, we tried to that to our ipcop server
[08:57] <D3luSi0n4L> thanks guys!
[08:57] <phil_in_london> mae_tae, can the squid server see the internet?
[08:57] <MarkusH> D3luSi0n4L: you're welcome
[08:57] <mae_tae> phil_in_london, how do i check/know that squid see the internet?
[08:57] <soreau> thedark1: It seems to have loaded all the snd modules as expected. Now make you to triple check all of your volume settings and make sure none are muting or turned down
[08:58] <Friar> Loshki, so when I compress the file I should make sure that my rsync command doesn't use the compression command?
[08:58] <matthes> hello
[08:58] <matthes> synaptic tells me to run  dpkg --configure -a
[08:58] <matthes> but this says me
[08:58] <soreau> thedark1: screenshot a maximized terminal after running 'alsamixer' and upload it to picpaste.com and also, triple check your physical audio connections and speakers
[08:58] <matthes> dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 42312 package 'udev': missing version
[08:58] <mae_tae> phil_in_london, i already added the 4.0 network in the acl
[08:58] <Loshki> Friar: well, it's harmless if you do so, but it will waste cpu time and make the transfer take longer...
[08:58] <girish> hi
[08:59] <matthes> what can I do?
[08:59] <mae_tae> phil_in_london, i dont know how to check if internet is working in squid server, how will i do that?
[08:59] <girish> hey
[08:59] <thedark1> no speakers or connections to check, I'll take the screenshot now
[08:59] <soreau> mae_tae: ping google.com
[08:59] <girish> i want to make bootable pend drive . So how to make?
[09:00] <mae_tae> from where? from squid server?
[09:00] <Fishscene> Does anyone know about the "Ubuntu One Contacts" app for iPhone? It says it's free, but then asks for credit card information...
[09:00] <Loshki> Friar: the same is true of most video and mp3 files, since they too are already pretty compressed
[09:00] <phil_in_london> mae_tae, (192.168.4.41)  that is the squid server?
[09:00] <soreau> mae_tae: squid server terminal
[09:00] <matthes> the line says
[09:00] <matthes> Original-Maintainer: Debian OpenOffice Team <debian-openoffice@lists.debian.org>
[09:00] <D3luSi0n4L> hey
[09:00] <D3luSi0n4L> quick question
[09:00] <D3luSi0n4L> if i use the archive mounter
[09:00] <peretz> so... when will 10.10 be release? on evening?
[09:01] <D3luSi0n4L> and i turn off my system & restore
[09:01] <D3luSi0n4L> not restore but turn back on
[09:01] <Friar> Loshki, great thanks. I'll do that...so I'll just add a line in my script to tar the file first then rsync it....that seems like a waste if you're on ext4 already for the file system. because won't rsysnc save you lots of time on subsequent backups cause if the file is the same it just skips it? using tar doesn't have that feature does it? then you end up having to compress everything every time, then transfer everything every time as w
[09:01] <Friar> ell.
[09:01] <Fishscene> peretz: Traditionally, Ubuntu is released at the last possible moment.
[09:01] <thedark1> http://picpaste.com/alsamixerthedark1-DsVvcawH.png
[09:01] <D3luSi0n4L> will the iso still be mounted?
[09:02] <terminalvelocity> any ideas anyone? built in mic working somtimes and somtimes not on HP dv4 with lucid.
[09:02] <matthes> synaptic tells me to run  dpkg --configure -a
[09:02] <phil_in_london> thedark1, F6, does that offer up any choices?
[09:02] <asmartgoat> !bored
[09:02] <scotsguy> whats best irc client for ubuntu??
[09:02] <matthes> dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 42312 package 'udev': missing version
[09:02] <scotsguy> im new to ubuntu
[09:02] <MagPulse> hey guys, I have file executable permission problems with the minecraft.jar file. Does anyone know how to fix it? Was this permissions thing introduced in 10.04? It seems like one hell of a downgrade now.
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> scotsguy:  depends on your needs.
[09:02] <D3luSi0n4L> scots im new to and i love Smuxi
[09:02] <PhillyP> scotsguy: I use xchat, and it does everything that I need
[09:03] <ubuntuprophecy> hi all. any estimates for 10.10 release? excited!
[09:03] <scotsguy> i was using invision before on windoes
[09:03] <D3luSi0n4L> its got an easy to setup & nice interface, although im sure most do
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> MagPulse:  java -jar foo.jar   I dont think you set the executable bit on jar files.
[09:03] <hidekazu2> 10.10 is comin' oot the day !!! yay !!!
[09:03] <ssn> ubuntuprophecy: normally, it takes the whole day ;-)
[09:03] <D3luSi0n4L> anyone know if i use archive mounter and i reboot will the iso still be mounted when it comes back on?
[09:03] <Fishscene> Does anyone know why the Ubuntu One app for iPhone says "free" but requires credit card information?
[09:03] <Friar> terminalvelocity, I have a dv6, and my mic if finicky as well. One thing it seems that the mic gets muted from time to time. go to System -> Preference -> Sound...there is an "input" tab there with a mute checkbox for the mic.
[09:04] <ubuntuprophecy> aw, would be cool if it released at 10:00am sharp. but i can wait. thanks all.
[09:04] <MagPulse> Dr_Willis, Thanks.
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> D3luSi0n4L:  it whould not be.. i imagine
[09:04] <D3luSi0n4L> hmm bummer
[09:04] <D3luSi0n4L> Dr_Willis: thanks
[09:04] <thedark1> soreau: did I miss something? I apologize I was distracted for a moment
[09:04] <scotsguy> is there way to add themes in xchat
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> scotsguy:  chck the xchat homepage/docs
[09:04] <scotsguy> k
[09:04] <scotsguy> thx
[09:04] <soreau> thedark1: Do you happen to know if your model is levno?
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> D3luSi0n4L:  theres that acetoneiso tool that might have some features like that. but i dont use it.
[09:05] <terminalvelocity> Friar: no it is not this....skype will somtimes do this if the box for "allow skype to auto ajust mixer levels" is checked
[09:05] <ylmfos_> hello
[09:05] <thedark1> soreau: no, but I don't think it is, as I haven't heard that before
[09:05] <D3luSi0n4L> Dr_Willis: hmm ok, thank you but i guess its better so i dont have to unmount & what not, and if ireally need something ill just remount it
[09:05] <mae_tae> phil_in_london, 4.41 is ip of one of interfaces in squid server
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> D3luSi0n4L:  you cold always make a script to do it..
[09:06] <terminalvelocity> Friar:believe me i have repeatedly made sure that it is not somthing simple like that
[09:06] <D3luSi0n4L> Dr_Willis: lol thanks but its really not neccessary =P
[09:06] <mae_tae> soreau, cannot ping google.com from squid server
[09:06] <ssn> ubuntuprophecy: what timezone do you mean? the ubuntu community is international, not just north american...
[09:06] <soreau> thedark1: Try this: sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel && sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel enable=1
[09:06] <soreau> mae_tae: What do you have for the 'nameserver' line in /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:07] <mae_tae> phil_in_london, and when i type netstat -tapn, i dont find 3128 port listening
[09:07] <soreau> mae_tae: Can you ping the router through the switch ok?
[09:07] <D3luSi0n4L> ubuntuprophecy: from who ive talked to im in pacific timezone its 1:07am on 10.10 right now, from who ive talked to it should be out 3:00PM 10.10 my time
[09:07] <soreau> mae_tae: ping <ip>
[09:07] <ubuntuprophecy> ssn, i'm from eastern time zone. and i'm glad ubuntu is international. good OS for all.
[09:07] <Loshki> Friar: I agree with you. It's only worth doing the tarfile step ff you have to backup to ntfs or fat, since otherwise the ownership and permissions aren't guaranteed.
[09:07] <Friar> terminalvelocity, just checking.....a few distros back...maybe 8.10 I had alsamixer installed....sometimes that would help....I'm on 10.10 right now and don't have any problems at all though.
[09:07] <mae_tae> soreau, yes i can ping the ip
[09:08] <soreau> mae_tae: so what does it have in resolv.conf file?????
[09:08] <asmartgoat> Somebody help
[09:08] <asmartgoat> we have an emergency
[09:08] <soreau> ! help | asmartgoat
[09:08] <asmartgoat> "Quizbuntu 10/10/10 19:07:46
[09:08] <asmartgoat> Trivia game started by asmartgoat! For an other category use: !choose The cheat protection is OFF , order is: sequential
[09:08] <D3luSi0n4L> ubuntu if your eastern then check around 6:00PM
[09:08] <FloodBot3> asmartgoat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:08] <asmartgoat> Current category set to: rootkits 10/10/10 19:07:48
[09:08] <thedark1> soreau: did that...nothing happened...
[09:08] <asmartgoat> Use !start to start the game! 10/10/10 19:07:50
[09:08] <TSlackM> Hi, i have some problems with lirc0 not showing up after the upgrade from 10.04-10.10, anybody had the same problem and knows a fix?,
[09:08] <soreau> thedark1: still no audio, huh?
[09:08] <mae_tae> soreau, i dont have dns installed in there
[09:08] <thedark1> no...
[09:08] <xorger-lappy> !isitoutyet
[09:08] <xorger-lappy> DAMN
[09:08] <soreau> mae_tae: oh well. Ask in #networking
[09:08] <terminalvelocity> Friar: the sound USUALLY works on startup and then the mic quits working later (i do have alsamixer)
[09:08] <mae_tae> soreau, actually its complete separate squid server directly connected to switch, which that switch is connected to modem
[09:08] <ubuntuprophecy> ty at d3l and others
[09:09] <Fishscene> Does anyone know why I need credit card information for the free "Ubuntu One" app on the iPhone?
[09:09] <MaverickOne> !party | xorger-lappy
[09:09] <D3luSi0n4L> ubuntuprophecy: for sure man, happy to help!
[09:09] <soreau> thedark1: Ok, try this: sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel && sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel model=levno
[09:09] <ubuntuprophecy> fish, whats asking for your cc info? is it the app or itunes?
[09:09] <Friar> anybody know if there is a way to customize gedit so that it recognizes certain text and colors it appropriately. I know it does it if you're writing in C or bash scripting. is there a way to customize this so that it recognizes different kinds of text?
[09:09] <D3luSi0n4L> ubuntuprophecy: also type !party and it will give you the name of the channel to discuss the new release
[09:09] <Fishscene> ubuntuprophecy, I can't tell.
[09:09] <D3luSi0n4L> !party
[09:10] <ubuntuprophecy> itunes requires a cc for access to the store, but it should not charge you for the app if it is free
[09:10] <D3luSi0n4L> type join #ubuntu-release-party   for the channel to disucss the release of 10.10
[09:10] <Friar> terminalvelocity, I'm sorry, but I can't really help ya. good luck. I know it is a pain in the rear. good luck.
[09:10] <phil_in_london> mae_tae, just one last question, have you told the pc at 114 that you have a proxy server and that its ip is 192.168.4.41 ?
[09:10] <terminalvelocity> Friar: thanks
[09:10] <ubuntuprophecy> join #ubuntu-release-party
[09:10] <D3luSi0n4L> my bad
[09:10] <D3luSi0n4L>  put a / in front of it
[09:10] <thedark1> still no sound :(
[09:11] <phil_in_london> mae_tae, sorry, I meant 4.113
[09:11] <thedark1> oh wait, my speakers were unplugged!
[09:11] <thedark1> just kidding
[09:11] <thedark1> not using speakers, just my laptop
[09:11] <xristosknp> kalhmera
[09:11] <soreau> thedark1: Ok, reset it back to default with 'sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel && sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel'
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> thedark1:  ive seen cases in here where peoples earphones worked.. but not the laptops speakers.. :) or  the reverse also..
[09:12] <Fishscene> wait! nvm. Looks like it's the iTunes account stuff
[09:13] <thedark1> damn this sucks
[09:13] <thedark1> luckily, a new version is being released
[09:13] <thedark1> that is actually a nice surprise
[09:13] <thedark1> that should fix the problem
[09:13] <thedark1> when the hell is it coming out though :(
[09:13] <soreau> thedark1: Open gnome-volume-control and go to edit>preferences. Does it show other channels of audio you can enable to be displayed?
[09:13] <terminalvelocity> can anyone tell me if it is worth it to upgrade to ubuntu 10.10 from lucid....have they smoothed out the kinks and exterminated the bugs that lucid has or does 10.10 come with its own fresh set of BS?
[09:14] <soreau> thedark1: I understand you have been working on this a long time and it's frustrating but please try to remain calm
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> terminalvelocity:  if you need the new features - upgrade.. if not.. dont.
[09:14] <thedark1> I'm calm soreau, and I appreciate your help
[09:14] <thedark1> thank you
[09:14] <funneh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H83fjcDCL9Y
[09:14] <Friar> terminalvelocity, I've been running the BETA for about a week now. it seems great to me. I did not have any of the sound issues we were just talking about.
[09:15] <Friar> my only bug that I have has to do with the medibuntu repository...for some reason I'm getting an error from sudo apt-get update from it...I'm not too sure why.
[09:15] <mae_tae> phil_in_london, yes i did that
[09:15] <soreau> thedark1: Now that you've been messing with the kernel driver module, check for any interesting messages in dmesg. or just pastebin it
[09:16] <thedark1> I don't see an "Edit--->Preferences) in the gnome-volume-control
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> Friar:  they could be updateing the server.
[09:16] <kwisj> Hi guys if anyone there has some experience in entering commands into the Backtrack 4 Konsole maybe you could let me know how to use escape characters to that i can enter this without the brackets being interpreted as commands Telitec (Carter)
[09:16] <soreau> thedark1: oh right, sec
[09:16] <terminalvelocity> Dr_Willis: what are the new features?  I just want my hardware to work properly and my GUIs to be complete with menu Every time i log in
[09:16] <Glowball> terminalvelocity: You can always try it out using the live cd ;)
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> terminalvelocity:  ive been using the 10.10 beta for so long.. i cant even tell you what was in the 10.04 release.
[09:17] <Friar> Dr_Willis, ive had the same error for over a week now.
[09:17] <phil_in_london> mae_tae, can 4.113 ping 4.41 ?
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> Friar:  medibuntu seems to be workign here for me..   I just updated my 10.10 box. :)
[09:17] <terminalvelocity> when is the final release?
[09:18] <soreau> wow, gnome-volume-control has changed..
[09:18] <terminalvelocity> Dr_Willis: when is the final release
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> terminalvelocity:  that gets asked in here every 5 min... some time today.
[09:18] <Friar> terminalvelocity, fspot is gone and has been replaced by shotwell. I'm not sure at all about the underworkings of the system...it comes with 2.6.35 kernel so that is great for anyone with an SSD. I have one, so that is one reason I upgraded with the BETA.
[09:19] <terminalvelocity> aaaahhhh ....i feel slightly stupid now
[09:19] <soreau> Dr_Willis: They are releasing on 10/10/10?
[09:19] <Friar> Dr_Willis, do you know what this might be? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/RyEnhgEQ
[09:19] <Yaron-Heb> is there a ck-kernel for 10.10?
[09:19] <Yaron-Heb> pf-kernel...
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> soreau:  version #'s in ubuntu are the dates. :) and they are targeting today.. so yes...
[09:19] <Yaron-Heb> I mean from ppa, I don't want to compile myself
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> Friar:  your public key has some hwo gotten changes/alteredd.  thats how the repos get verified.
[09:20] <ugliefrog> the empathy enveleope icon on the taskbar is it supposed to light up when you have mail?
[09:20] <terminalvelocity> Friar: will there be support for 10.10 or are we on our own?
[09:20] <soreau> Dr_Willis: I know the year and month are version numbers, but not the day
[09:21] <Yaron-Heb> usually the release its at the end of the month, about 28
[09:21] <soreau> thedark1: This guide is somewhat out of date but perhaps you can glean any information or get an idea https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> soreau:  the day is normally the last day of the month.. they moved it ahead to be cool ;)
[09:21] <Friar> terminalvelocity, 10.10 is an official release as of today. there will be support for it. it isn't a long term release, so I think support only lasts for 18 months.
[09:21] <xristosknp> goodd morning
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> Friar:  similer issue and fix mentioned at --> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/fix-nopubkey-error-for-extras-ubuntu.html
[09:21] <soreau> thedark1: I keep seeing other people with this problem with intel hda chips and stuff about codecs
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> Friar:  you basically need to update the key on your system
[09:21] <soreau> thedark1: but I've never had to fix it myself
[09:21] <thedark1> http://pastebin.com/VjQ2KL2G
[09:22] <Friar> Thanks Dr_Willis, I'll give it a read. I was just about to ask if you knew how to fix it! I'll let you know how it goes.
[09:22] <thedark1> it looks like I need to reinstall :(
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> Friar:  the meduibuntu docs/homepage also give the command to get their key
[09:22] <thedark1> is there anyway to reinstall but save somewhere my previous configuration?
[09:22] <djomgg> 10.10.10 and the ime is 10.22 am :)
[09:22] <thedark1> like what programs I had installed, my task panel and such
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> thedark1:  usb flash drives, or the ubuntuone  feature are good places to save configs.
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> !clone | thedark1
[09:23] <ubuntuprophecy> so a time machine app (mac) or something like acronis (windows) for linux?
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> thedark1:  i take a 'new install' as an opturinity to clean out all the cruft ive accumulated.
[09:23] <icarus-c> ubuntuprophecy, backintime
[09:23] <mohan1111> HI. I booted a pendrive with ubuntu. THe installer does not see the existing harddisk drives...And the iso's md5 wxactly matched. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/573618 This method of removing dmraid did not work for me. How do i make it work so that i can install ubuntu using a pendrive ?
[09:23] <thedark1> yeah but IO don
[09:23] <thedark1> t really have any
[09:23] <Jhong> anyone upgraded to maverick on a Linode yet?
[09:23] <ubuntuprophecy> ty icarus, im looking that app up now
[09:24] <thedark1> I keep my hd clean, and ubuntu is really streamined unless it gets broken like mine has :(
[09:24] <soreau> thedark1: Has the sound ever worked?
[09:24] <thedark1> I've been using Ubuntu for years and the sound worked until yesterday
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> ive heard that 'somewhere/somewhen' evntually ubuntuone will be able to keep/sync your users settings. :)
[09:24] <Newb`s> Hello, is Ubuntu 10.10 out ?
[09:25] <mohan1111> !isitout
[09:25] <icarus-c> ubuntuprophecy, or just use rsync/rdiff if you could handle commands.  BackInTime is a decent GUI app which uses rsync/rdiff as backend
[09:25] <thedark1> I tried getting some programs to use OSS because ALSA was preventing sound from one program... and now I have no sound
[09:25] <ubuntuprophecy> thedark, does the sound work if you boot from another os?
[09:25] <thedark1> I know it was my fault :(
[09:25] <thedark1> yes, also works from a livecd
[09:25] <Deegrin> !isitout
[09:25] <Deegrin> Funny.
[09:25] <soreau> thedark1: Please pastebin the output of 'dmesg'. An easy way to do it is 'sudo apt-get install curl && dmesg|curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us'
[09:26] <rww> Deegrin: #ubuntu-release-party is funnier ;D
[09:26] <ubuntuprophecy> random, but try plugging a set of headphones in and out .. fixed sound once on mine.
[09:26] <Lamba> has anyone here any experience of running 3 monitors from 2 pci-e cards ? ati ones.
[09:26] <thedark1> I did http://pastebin.com/VjQ2KL2G
[09:26] <soreau> thedark1: since the kernel provides these drivers, a kernel update could have broken it. Have you tried booting an older kernel from your boot menu?
[09:26]  * soreau needs thedark1 to be more responsive
[09:26] <soreau> I'm getting sleepy
[09:27] <thedark1> sorry
[09:27] <thedark1> no I haven't tried that
[09:27] <soreau> Ah there it is
[09:27] <soreau> ! who | thedark1
[09:28] <bn> Hi. Any information about upgrade 10.10?
[09:28] <Newb`s> !tab
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> bn:  you can upgrade.. yes...
[09:28] <Newb`s> !isitout | bn
[09:29] <nop> huhu
[09:29] <chaos104> Aae
[09:29] <bn> This is my first experience with Ubuntu (great!) Will I upgrade with Update Manager?
[09:30] <thedark1> Soreau: sorry
[09:30] <soreau> thedark1: So it's either 1) a kernel update broke it (not too likely but possible) 2) It's working but there is a configuration issue 3) It's working but there is a hardware issue (faulty speakers, speaker wire, plug etc)
[09:31] <ubuntuprophecy> anyone got itunes or photoshop working in wine on 10.04 or 10.10?
[09:31] <soreau> thedark1: In my opinion, I think 2) is most likely since syslog shows no error from loading the module
[09:31] <Deegrin> rww: Release party channel IS funny. Haha.
[09:31] <Friar> Dr_Willis, tried that link, but still didn't work...then I found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7206978&postcount=9 Working great now.
[09:32] <Friar> Thanks for the help.
[09:32] <soreau> thedark1: And if you boot a livecd right now and it's still working then you can mark 3) completely off
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> Friar:  yea. i really dont fullyunderstand the key stuff. but i can normally get them working.
[09:33] <thedark1> soreau: ok, thanks
[09:33] <TopGear> hello
[09:33] <thedark1> Soreau: I appreciate your effort, I know it was a real hassle
[09:34] <TopGear> got some problems with my Dell Latitude D800.
[09:34] <thedark1> I will try a livecd again just to check
[09:34] <thedark1> otherwise I will wait for 10.10
[09:34] <soreau> thedark1: And with that, I recommend you do a lot of googling and reading. Wish you the best.
[09:34] <TopGear> Graphics are very weird.
[09:34] <thedark1> soreau: thanks again soreau
[09:34] <TopGear> see pictures @ http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/software-en-configuratie/muis-ooffice-writer-e-a-programma%27s-zien-er-niet-uit/ .
[09:35] <TopGear> I've got a nVIDIA GeForce 4 4200 Go graphics card. using nvidia-96
[09:35] <soreau> TopGear: what do you mean 'very weird'?
[09:35] <TopGear> look at the pictures in the link, i've given
[09:35] <TopGear> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YncVKgpTd6E
[09:35] <TopGear> euh?
[09:35] <TopGear> wrong one
[09:35] <FloodBot3> TopGear: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:36] <TopGear> http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/software-en-configuratie/muis-ooffice-writer-e-a-programma%27s-zien-er-niet-uit/
[09:36] <TopGear> the you see 3 pictures in the start post. that's how my GUI looks like.
[09:36] <mae_tae> people, from the switch i directly connect it to the pc and put the public ip in there with dns, because if you dont include dns ip, it cannot internet, so now how will i specify it in interfaces
[09:37] <soreau> TopGear: Oh yea, that's definitely a graphics driver problem
[09:37] <TopGear> yeah, know that now
[09:37] <soreau> TopGear: Why are you using the 96.xx driver?
[09:37] <TopGear> but when I install 96, my complete GUI disappeares
[09:38] <TopGear> it leaves me @ tty2
[09:38] <soreau> oh it's legacy
[09:38] <soreau> TopGear: Did you try installing the drivers through sys>admin>hardware drivers?
[09:38] <TopGear> not there
[09:38] <hartzie> ubuntu
[09:38] <TopGear> only the broadcom's drivers
[09:40] <soreau> TopGear: If you install the modalias package, does it show up?
[09:41] <Glowball> Preparing for the upgrade.. Why can't I just cp my home folder? "cp: omitting directory `/home/tim'"
[09:42] <Glowball> Oh, I need -t
[09:42] <Glowball> Note to self: read man page first :$
[09:42] <TopGear> modalias of 96?
[09:42] <soreau> ! who | TopGear
[09:42] <jay3> ok my nw-applet has vanished tried everything on forum but nothing works
[09:42] <dhiry2k> i have sdcard containing ubuntu armel 10.10 root filesystem is there any way to run this in i386 system virtually
[09:43] <jay3> can anyone help plaese
[09:43] <soreau> jay3: Does 'ps ax|grep nm-applet' shows it's running?
[09:43] <hidekazu2> OMG ! UBUNTU ! * HEAD ASPLODES *
[09:43] <soreau> jay3: Did you delete your notification area by chance?
[09:43] <TopGear> soreau, the modalias from 96?
[09:43] <toonacid> Woohoo, 1500 users.
[09:44] <soreau> TopGear: Right, see 'apt-cache search nvidia|grep modalias'
[09:44]  * toonacid doesn't see tons of messages flying by.
[09:44] <collider> i want 10.10 :(
[09:44] <jay3> yes ithe there
[09:44] <jay3> nm-applet is working
[09:44] <TopGear> soreau, it's alreay the newest version.
[09:44] <toonacid> I'm just waiting for the release so I can upgrade my production servers... And my awesome desktop.
[09:45] <collider> i just wanna see if the ZX spectrum will handle it
[09:45] <Guest83871> toonacid: will you upgrade on sunday? :/
[09:45] <jay3> soreau: no its working and i am on netbook remix
[09:45] <toonacid> Guest83871: Today is already Sunday for me.
[09:45] <TopGear> soreau, given the command. What do you want to know of it?
[09:45] <c0nv1ct> how do I rearrange the launchers in Unity?
[09:45] <toonacid> Guest83871: And yes to your question.
[09:46] <llutz> toonacid: so your "production server" aren't critical?
[09:46] <terminalvelocity> to upgrade to 10.10 must i do aclean install or is there a way to upgrade from lucid without losing all the software?
[09:46] <soreau> TopGear: It just shows the available packages with nvidia and modalias in their name
[09:46] <Guest83871> toonacid: who works on sundays :/
[09:46] <Guest83871> its terrible
[09:46] <toonacid> llutz: Of course not. I'm doing it because I want to. :) It's fun.
[09:46] <ubuntuprophecy> ty ubuntu people. takes me a day to reinstall windows. ubuntu 1hr and i'm smoking. ^_^
[09:46] <soreau> terminalvelocity: After it's released, ubuntu should prompt you to update. If not, use 'gksu update-manager -d'
[09:47] <llutz> toonacid: so they are playgrounds, not production servers
[09:47] <toonacid> Guest83871: Millions of people.
[09:47] <TopGear> @soreau 173, 185, 96, current and 180.
[09:47] <Guest83871> toonacid: in china, ofc ;)
[09:47] <llutz> Guest83871: in other countries too
[09:47] <toonacid> Guest83871: Lol.
[09:47] <TopGear> soreau, I'll give you the (EE) of startx
[09:48] <Guest83871> for me sunday is a holiday
[09:48] <toonacid> llutz: I call it production because my site is hosted on it. :) I also do my commercial work from my site.
[09:48] <clean> where can download ubuntu 10.10 ??
[09:48] <Deegrin> !isitout
[09:48] <ubuntuprophecy> ubuntu.com .. but its not out yet
[09:49] <terminalvelocity> soreau: so the upgrade from lucid does not require reinstalling the os, i can upgrade directly from the update manager?
[09:49] <clean> when is it out??
[09:49] <ovy> what's the time in usa?
[09:49] <clean> now its already Oct 10
[09:50] <hidekazu2> you can change sources.list from lucid to maverick, then do aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade
[09:50] <TopGear> @soreau, here is the error: http://tinyurl.com/3xwo8zs
[09:50] <soreau> TopGear: I don't really see an entry for 'nVIDIA GeForce 4 4200 Go' on the nvidia website
[09:50] <ozzloy> ovy, it's 01:50 in the west coast of USA
[09:50] <fargiolas> hi guys anybody using ubuntu on a macbook? I'm currently partitioning the harddisk for dual boot with osx. Bootcamp created a 128 mb unallocated space between osx and fat32 partition, is that space really needed?
[09:50] <ozzloy> ovy, and 4:50 in the east
[09:50] <dhiry2k> hi all, i have installed ubuntu armel 101.10 xfce4 but it looks like red in color does it require any package more
[09:50] <jay3> when i do a restart network-manager it appears but if i plug in cable from modem it wont connect automatically i need to do a restart networking and when even after that it wont the nm-applet's icon will not show me connected
[09:50] <mattcodes> if I download 10.10 RC today will it be a small/release upgrade to the RTM version tomorrow?
[09:50] <ovy> 11:50 here
[09:51] <soreau> terminalvelocity: Yes, you can upgrade without clean installing. This usually works if you haven't made any modifications to your system
[09:51] <Guest83871> 10:50
[09:51] <Guest83871> ;]
[09:51] <dhiry2k> i just installed xfce4
[09:51] <llutz> mattcodes: it will, the bigger upgrades will follow later
[09:51] <soreau> terminalvelocity: If you have added packages, have any strange bugs or other things going on, you should do a clean install
[09:51] <hidekazu2> !isitout
[09:51] <soreau> terminalvelocity: To avoid headaches and problems
[09:51] <hidekazu2> Growing impatient.....
[09:52] <eboyjr> hidekazu2: October 10th is 50 hours long when you take into account the entire world.  We are only 46% through the day by this measurement, so be patient.  Ubuntu 10.10 will be out before '@now Pacific/Pago_pago' reaches midnight on the tenth.
[09:52] <mattcodes> thanks, just wanted to confirm it wouldnt be stranded. off to download RC now, need to get going tonight :)
[09:52] <clean> soreau: every message containing "clean" will alter me
[09:52] <ubuntuprophecy> fargiolas, you can try using disk image to create the paritions manually.  ive seen the same huge wastes of space in mine
[09:52] <soreau> clean: What's your point?
[09:52] <hidekazu2> Hmm... interesting
[09:52] <lestat> hi
[09:53] <clean> soreau: no point
[09:53] <ubuntuprophecy> but fargiolas if your hd is gigs large, i wouldnt worry about it.
[09:53] <terminalvelocity> soreau: so the new 10.10 is basically a refined version of lucid? or is it likley to have lots of issues because the developers were rushed to meet their deadline or somthing like that?
[09:53] <fargiolas> ubuntuprophecy: I'd like to just remove the fat partition and tell the installer to use all the contiguous free space, but that would mean getting rid of the 128 mb unallocated thing
[09:53] <lestat> any idea why pasting with mouse middle button is not working anymore since friday ?
[09:53] <TopGear> soreau, can you do something with the error?
[09:53] <lestat> it just does nothing when i try to paste
[09:53] <fargiolas> ubuntuprophecy: as far as I read it's something to trick windows xp to work with efi partitions, but I'm a bit worried
[09:54] <terminalvelocity> by the way does anyone know what the best file format to use is?
[09:54] <lestat> terminalvelocity: best file format for what ?
[09:54] <lestat> terminalvelocity: oh you mean filesystem maybe ?
[09:54] <terminalvelocity> for the os, not data storage
[09:54] <hehe> any FREE ssh account provider?
[09:54] <terminalvelocity> ext2,3,4?
[09:54] <soreau> terminalvelocity: No. The way Linux works is, there is a kernel and GNU apps developed constantly all the time upstream, as well as the multitude of other software that runs on linux. Every 6 months, ubuntu and other major distributions make a release which takes all of this code and they try to make the most stable system while still providing latest code and features
[09:54] <ubuntuprophecy> i'd 1) leave it alone or 2) create the partitions manually. just have a working computer off to the sides just incase you have boot errors afterwards
[09:54] <terminalvelocity> yes
[09:55] <lestat> terminalvelocity: this is not file format, this is file systems
[09:55] <terminalvelocity> lestat:yes
[09:55] <mattcodes> hehe - is there any free money/
[09:55] <lestat> terminalvelocity: ext3/4 are just fine
[09:55] <Smilodonis> Is 10.10 out or what?
[09:55] <soreau> terminalvelocity: Sometimes there are occasional bugs and regressions but that just comes with the Linux. No one can possibly catch every single bug or problem.
[09:55] <lestat> terminalvelocity: if you want some good perf, rather buy a ssd hd for the system partition, or a hd with lots of cache
[09:55] <terminalvelocity> lestat: what is the difference?
[09:56] <warpi_> Smilodonis: i wonder the same thing :)
[09:56] <xorger-lappy> it is out, it is out
[09:56] <soreau> terminalvelocity: The common goal is to improve software, support new hardware and eliminate bugs
[09:56] <xorger-lappy> in my dreams
[09:56] <matthes> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libattr1'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[09:56] <hehe> who can provide ssh service for me...?I read only text webpages
[09:56] <ubuntuprophecy> ssd performance will blow your mind
[09:56] <matthes> what can I do?
[09:57] <delac> can anyone recommend a music player that has individually adjustable fade in/out for stop, pause and songchange? Prefereably for seek too.
[09:57] <fargiolas> ubuntuprophecy: ok, thanks. also, do you experience the cpu running at higher temperatures when running ubuntu?
[09:57]  * soreau wants SSD so bad
[09:57] <rabbaz> hey there. Do you guys know, when the release 10.10 will be available?
[09:57] <soreau> if nothing else, just for /
[09:57] <fargiolas> ubuntuprophecy: wondering if it's just the livecd or not
[09:57] <rww> rabbaz: when it's ready, sometime today
[09:57] <rabbaz> ok, thx
[09:57]  * dwarder doesn't want bad SSD
[09:57] <milk`> vlc
[09:57] <matthes> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libattr1'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)  |  what can I do?
[09:57] <lestat> terminalvelocity: between ext2/ext3, only difference is the journal, between ext3/ext4 i don't know
[09:57] <Friar> I know it is terrible practice, but can i hard code my password for sudo into .bashrc? I have an alias that turns update into sudo apt-get update...can I add my password to it so that i don't have to type it when I update?
[09:58] <lestat> Friar: no
[09:58] <terminalvelocity> soreau: HP hardware had lots of sound issues with lucid. is that likly to be fixed?
[09:58] <Friar> lestat, simple enough. thanks
[09:58] <lestat> Friar: i mean sure you can, but i strongly discourage you
[09:58] <terminalvelocity> lestat: thanks
[09:58] <dwarder> lestat: but he can hack core? :)
[09:58] <lestat> Friar: you'd rather explain the problem you're trying to solve
[09:59] <lestat> dwarder: to do what ?
[09:59] <matthes> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libattr1'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)  |  what can I do?
[09:59] <Friar> I'm trying to make it so that I don't have to type my password when I run my update command.
[09:59] <dwarder> lestat: to do abovementions stuff?
[09:59] <soreau> terminalvelocity: I have no idea.
[09:59] <dwarder> mentioned*
[09:59] <lestat> dwarder: you mean sudo password in .bashrc ?
[09:59] <dwarder> yup
[09:59] <ubuntuprophecy> fargiolas, check your drivers and make sure you are using updated versions. i get hot temps + fans on both my macs and pc under ubuntu. but its back to normal after i install updated gfx drivers on both.
[10:00] <soreau> terminalvelocity: You would have to grab a live cd and test it. But the common goal is to make it better and you can help by filing a bug report about any issue you're having
[10:00] <dwarder> lestat: anyway it was a bad joke ;)
[10:00] <ubuntuprophecy> yes, the gfx drivers cause it. at least in my experience
[10:00] <dwarder> but could be accomplished
[10:00] <lestat> dwarder: ah ok sorry, my humor detectors are off :\
[10:00] <fargiolas> ubuntuprophecy: cool, will do that once I have a system up and running
[10:00] <fargiolas> thankds
[10:00] <addikt1ve> hi
[10:00] <lestat> Friar: what are you trying to achieve exactly ?
[10:00] <terminalvelocity> soreau: i take it that you are one of the developers?
[10:00] <addikt1ve> I can't find img files of ubuntu
[10:01] <ubuntuprophecy> fargiolas, remember your gfx drivers are probably 3rd party made. so remember to update the sources for system update
[10:01] <nocturnal> how do you start the live system from the alternate iso? i don't get any live cd option. is it the recovery option?
[10:01] <Friar> lestat, I have alias update='sudo apt-get update' in my .bashrc. I want to be able to type update on command line and have it work without me typing my password.
[10:01] <matthes> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libattr1'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)  |  what can I do?
[10:01] <lestat> Friar: this is just wrong :(
[10:02] <Friar> lestat, I made my user with a strong password to login, and it is a huge pain to type it in every time.
[10:02] <soreau> terminalvelocity: I am a hobbyist developer and help wherever I can
[10:02] <|ns|nR8> does this channel officially support 10.10 yet ?
[10:02] <lestat> Friar: you'll get used to it ;P
[10:02] <ubuntuprophecy> Friar, make a 1 character password? doesn't sound like your system needs to be that secure
[10:02] <Friar> lestat, I know it is wrong, and if you don't want to help me with it that is fine. I'm not going to blame you if i do it and then end up screwing up my system...it is exactly that...my system.
[10:02] <soreau> terminalvelocity: I work on the compiz project a lot. but not a 'ubuntu dev'
[10:03] <addikt1ve> is there a place where I could find *.img files of ubuntu in order to dd it to my usb key?
[10:03] <Friar> and I take the blame if things go wrong....I'm the one that types the commands....
[10:03] <lestat> Friar: i don't say i don't want to help, trying to figure out something
[10:03] <soreau> addikt1ve: locate *.img
[10:03] <ubuntuprophecy> soreau they are always on ubuntu.com
[10:03] <addikt1ve> soreau: o_O
[10:03] <soreau> ubuntuprophecy: What are?
[10:03] <soreau> who?
[10:03] <addikt1ve> why a locate on my system would tell me where I cant find img files of ubunu, soreau?
[10:04] <ubuntuprophecy> oh wait, you want .img?
[10:04] <ubuntuprophecy> um...
[10:04] <addikt1ve> yes.
[10:04] <soreau> addikt1ve: man locate
[10:04] <matthes> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libattr1'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)  |  what can I do?
[10:04] <addikt1ve> soreau: you didn't understand my question ;)
[10:04] <lestat> Friar: you could write a wrapper script in /usr/local/bin/ which start your update, and add this script to sudoers, so that you can execute the script as root with no password
[10:04] <soreau> addikt1ve: Ok, what do you mean then?
[10:04] <addikt1ve> ubuntuprophecy: there's quite a problem with img files
[10:04] <addikt1ve> ubuntu.com doesn't provide any
[10:04] <soreau> addikt1ve: You mean the ubuntu iso image file?
[10:04] <addikt1ve> even the netbook edition is a burnable iso
[10:04] <addikt1ve> that's a nonsense
[10:05] <addikt1ve> we need dd'able img :)
[10:05] <Morph3000|Gone> I shall never know why I am to talk the way I talk this very moment on an international gateway of virtual socialisations.
[10:05] <addikt1ve> the point is
[10:05] <addikt1ve> I want an img file for a live usb?
[10:05] <ubuntuprophecy> yes, this has me perplexed.
[10:05] <soreau> addikt1ve: Since when is an iso not an image and not 'ddable'?
[10:05] <jm> look up "unetbootin"
[10:05] <terminalvelocity> soreau: aaah good, because i think that it is compiz that somtimes does not give the windows a menu bar(with the x, square, and underscore to minimize)...perhaps you could tell me how to fix that or will it not be an issue with 10.10
[10:05] <Friar> lestat, thanks. we're clearly at different levels of understanding. I'm sure what you're suggesting will work, but I really have no idea what a wrapper script is.
[10:05] <jm> that copies .iso to usb keys
[10:06] <ubuntuprophecy> well he asked for .img and not .iso...
[10:06] <Friar> I was just thinking...it isn't vital that this happens anyways. thanks for the input though.
[10:06] <addikt1ve> ok I need to burn the iso, boot it from an usb CD I don't have, start unetbootin, copy ubuntu on my usb device
[10:06] <addikt1ve> what the fuck?
[10:06] <MaverickOne> !language | addikt1ve
[10:06] <addikt1ve> haha.
[10:06] <addikt1ve> no seriously.
[10:06] <addikt1ve> plus I'm using archlinux
[10:06] <soreau> terminalvelocity: That is a bug that has been a common issue with ubuntu 10.04. My theory is they start compiz too fast before X or the drivers are ready
[10:06] <matthes> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libattr1'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)  |  what can I do? Please help!
[10:06] <lestat> Friar: something like this: http://pastebin.com/6xk2JqDz
[10:06] <ubuntuprophecy> no, there is an app that will put the .iso onto a usb key and will boot it. googling it now
[10:06] <addikt1ve> ubuntuprophecy: unetbootin
[10:07] <addikt1ve> fine
[10:07] <jm> I think unetbootin runs on windows as well - but yes, you need at least one running system to do that
[10:07] <addikt1ve> but I'm using archlinux
[10:07] <soreau> terminalvelocity: There's a lot of things you can do to try and workaround it but I really hope it's fixed in 10.10 (I would expect nothing less)
[10:07] <ubuntuprophecy> addikt1ve,  beat me to it
[10:07] <lestat> Friar: that is a script that runs exactly what you want
[10:07] <soreau> Without a window manager, X isn't particularly useful
[10:07] <addikt1ve> seems that there is a way to compile unetbootin under archlinux
[10:07] <addikt1ve> let's try it
[10:07] <arunkumar> Unofficial ubuntu 10.10 - Maverick Meerkat download links http://ubuntu-india.blogspot.com/2010/10/ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat.html
[10:07] <addikt1ve> (it still sucks)
[10:07] <ubuntuprophecy> its this -> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[10:08] <n8w> whats goin on with 10.10?the banner says 1 day left
[10:08] <addikt1ve> ubuntuprophecy: you're just 2 minutes late ^^
[10:08] <Friar> lestat, yes it does. I guess where I get confused it to put it in the sudoers folder and all that stuff. I really don't know what the sudoers folder is, and what it does.
[10:08] <TiK> ive ran mverick for months
[10:08] <terminalvelocity> soreau: is ther a patch or somthing that fixes it?
[10:08] <lestat> Friar: just put the wrapper script in /usr/local/bin/ make it owned by root:root with perm 755
[10:08] <ubuntuprophecy> my google foo is slow today
[10:09] <terminalvelocity> ahhh...nevermind i will just install 10.10
[10:09] <mfraz74> Just tried to do some updates on my daughter's machine and I'm getting size mismatch errors with gimp from the getdeb repos
[10:09] <soreau> terminalvelocity: No, it's just a trial and error diagnoses you have to do in order to try and figure out the real problem. The fact is that it is a ubuntu bug and not a problem with compiz though
[10:09] <Friar> lestat, what is a wrapper script? is it different from a regular script?
[10:09] <lestat> Friar: then use visudo to edit sudoers file and add a line like: %steffen ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/amarok
[10:09] <rww> arunkumar: pool URLs aren't confirmed as final releases; downloading them slows down the release process and will not necessarily get you the right ISO (it didn't during Lucid release).
[10:09] <lestat> erf
[10:09] <arunkumar>    Unofficial ubuntu 10.10 - Maverick Meerkat download links http://goo.gl/vC53
[10:09] <lestat> Friar: no, it just wrap the exact command(s) you want to run as root
[10:10] <hehe> what's google foo
[10:10] <Friar> thanks lestat. I appreciate it.
[10:10] <addikt1ve> no ubuntu 10.10 torrent link yey?
[10:10] <addikt1ve> yet*
[10:10] <lestat> Friar: then use visudo to edit sudoers file and add a line like: %Friar ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/local/bin/wrapper-update.sh
[10:10] <rww> addikt1ve: It's not out yet, so no.
[10:10] <ubuntuprophecy> "let me google that for you" quickness
[10:10] <arunkumar> @rww sry
[10:10] <arunkumar> rww: sry
[10:11] <shazzr> !isitout
[10:11] <n8w> addikt1ve:  no 10.10 in the repo either
[10:11] <soreau> ! party | arunkumar
[10:11] <lestat> Friar: also be very careful with owner and permission on the wrapper script
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[10:11] <hehe> googling get no useful info
[10:11] <matthes> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libattr1'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)  |  what can I do? Please help!
[10:11] <addikt1ve> n8w: http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso
[10:11] <ubuntuprophecy> hehe, im going to make that into a bumper sticker
[10:11] <arunkumar> soreau: ????
[10:11] <arunkumar>    Unofficial ubuntu 10.10 - Maverick Meerkat download links http://goo.gl/vC53
[10:12] <Friar> lestat, just make sure that I'm the owner of the script and have permission to execute it?
[10:12] <matthes> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libattr1'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)  |  what can I do? Please help!
[10:12] <lestat> Friar: NOOOOOOO
[10:12] <lestat> Friar: you must not be the owner at all cost
[10:12] <Kuba> hey
[10:12] <jay3> removing some lines from /etc/network/interfaces solved it all
[10:12] <jay3> removing some lines from /etc/network/interfaces solved it all
[10:12] <n8w> addikt1ve:  well i would prefer upgradin through kpackage....
[10:13] <addikt1ve> n8w: as you wish
[10:13] <addikt1ve> well
[10:13] <addikt1ve> have a nice day
[10:13] <lestat> Friar: like i said earlier the script has to be owned by root:root, and permission 755
[10:13] <Friar> lestat, ah....i see.
[10:13] <arunkumar>    Unofficial ubuntu 10.10 - Maverick Meerkat download links http://goo.gl/vC53
[10:13] <ubuntuprophecy> mac users update = complain about features, windows user = complain price... linux = complain about how haha.
[10:13] <N_i_c_o> identify drassub
[10:13] <Kuba> How to permanetly turn off power management on my wifi card? Now, when on battery, it turns on some power management feautures that make my connection unstable... Please help me
[10:16] <zden> hi. I've got problem with annoying screen flickering with RV530 radeon card. When I run without KMS problem is gone, but rendering is slower.
[10:16] <dfa> me suis fait avoir comme un noob
[10:16] <jm> matthes: gksudo synaptic; search for libattr1; Mark for reinstallation (right click on the green square); apply
[10:17] <ilios> When 10.10 will be released??
[10:17] <dfa> d'après la page http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/wifi_liste_carte ma carte wifi est reconnue nativement en 10.04 (kick?) mais ce n'est pas le cas
[10:17] <dfa> lol
[10:17] <TopGear> no ideas?
[10:18] <ilios> hmm
[10:18] <thingy> ilios: It is supposed to be today...the various mirrors are currently updating "Archive-Update-in-Progress-syowa.canonical.com"
[10:18] <ilios> Thx!
[10:19] <lestat> Friar: working ?
[10:20] <Friar> I'm transferring the file now lestat, I have to make a backup of my sudoers file, then I'll start the editing process, I'm not too sure exactly what to do, but it will be a great adventure for a sunday afternoon. Thanks for the help
[10:20] <sunny1> Hi guys, how do I save the output of a running shell to a file?
[10:20] <lestat> Friar: :)
[10:20] <soreau> TopGear: Oh I was looking on the nvidia site for the driver version that supports your card but I couldn't find one
[10:21] <lestat> Friar: anyway don't hesitate to ask if you encounter some bumper
[10:21] <soreau> TopGear: Get a Radeon card and be happy ;)
[10:21] <TopGear> soreau: replace in a laptop? nah...
[10:21] <Friar> lestat, great. thanks a lot.
[10:21] <TopGear> i'll take a look what mint 9 does.
[10:21] <Jordan_U> sunny1: run "script" to start a new shell whose output will be logged.
[10:21] <c3l> sunny1: > . use it as 'ls > lsoutputfile'
[10:21] <soreau> TopGear: Yea that sucks. So after you install the nvidia driver, when does it get stuck on tty2?
[10:22] <soreau> TopGear: Is it an older nvidia card?
[10:22] <sunny1> Jordan_U: c3l: What about the output that's already there?
[10:22] <TopGear> soreau: I can get to tty6, but tty7's stuck @ "checking battery state"
[10:22] <TopGear> yeah, geforce4 4200 GO
[10:22] <soreau> TopGear: Can you pastebin the X log from the failed session? (to pastebin.com)
[10:23] <dahao> 看不懂
[10:23] <TopGear> the complete x log?
[10:23] <Jordan_U> sunny1: You just have to copy/paste.
[10:23] <soreau> TopGear: Yes
[10:23] <TopGear> dahao: wrong language
[10:23] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | TopGear
[10:23] <hehe> 555 我看不懂
[10:23] <jassie> hi..
[10:23] <TopGear> okay
[10:23] <TopGear> give my 5 min.
[10:23] <hehe> jassie ,kiss
[10:24] <mvk> !party
[10:24] <dahao> yes,i don't
[10:24] <jassie> im lost.
[10:24] <Jordan_U> !cn | hehe
[10:24] <hehe> jassie,where are you
[10:24] <jassie> at home.
[10:24] <jassie> i mean im lost here. haha
[10:24] <hehe> hey
[10:24] <dahao> i  am  c
[10:25] <milten> hi
[10:25] <hehe> jassie is a girl?
[10:25] <jassie> yup.
[10:25] <milten> does anybody know when ubuntu will be release today?
[10:25] <sunny1> Jordan_U: Bummer, thanks anyway
[10:25] <jassie> in not familiar in mirc
[10:25] <hehe> wow,
[10:25] <hehe> me,too
[10:25] <mipo> i think in 1 1/2 hour it will be release
[10:25] <jassie> hehe is a girl too?
[10:25] <dahao>   ubuntu 10?
[10:25] <soreau> milten: Probably toward the end of the day
[10:25] <jassie> is this a room? haha
[10:25] <hehe> a masculine gus la
[10:26] <rww> !ot
[10:26] <hehe> guy
[10:26] <milten> @mipo: why do you think it will be release in 1 1/2 hour?
[10:26] <jassie> ow. sorry.
[10:26] <soreau> jassie: Yes, this is the official support channel for the ubuntu operating system
[10:26] <mipo> anyone wrote it a few hours ago
[10:26] <soreau> ! ot | jassie
[10:26] <mipo> :D I'm not shure
[10:26] <Jordan_U> milten: Exactly one hour after the last person asks when it will be released.
[10:26] <hehe> laf
[10:26] <milten> ^^
[10:26] <hehe> jassie...why they bother us so hard
[10:26] <jassie> ok.im really lost.
[10:26] <milten> well, let's hope for the best (i.e. the fastest)
[10:26] <Kaspa> an hour.. but i wann it now!
[10:27] <jassie> hehe.. i dont know.
[10:27] <milten> me too
[10:27] <jassie> wheres the exit? haha
[10:27] <soreau> ! ubuntu | jassie
[10:27] <DrAcid> Hey Guys!
[10:27] <mipo> hey
[10:27] <DrAcid> I'm pretty sure everyone's asking for release time :P
[10:27] <DrAcid> :D
[10:27] <ezrabynx> Does anyone know why when i click "Agree & Subscribe"  on Ubuntu One Basic plan, it does nothing but refreshes the page?
[10:27] <milten> btw: i considered switching to kde. do you think it's stable enough? which desktop are you using?
[10:28] <DrAcid> Gnoe
[10:28] <matthes> jmk1234: it doesn't work, I get a loop with libselinux1
[10:28] <DrAcid> sorry.
[10:28] <matthes> ups
[10:28] <vanja_> hi
[10:28] <mechanobot> i heard we would have to wait for duke nukem forever beforce 10.10 is released
[10:28] <vanja_> when is 10.10 coming out?
[10:29] <dahao> word
[10:29] <DrAcid> That's my question as well
[10:29] <liberan>  	 irc://freenode/ubuntu-release-party
[10:29] <irvy> o hai
[10:29] <matthes> jm: it doesn't work, I get a loop with libselinux1
[10:29] <rww> !party
[10:30] <Twan_> join #ubuntu-release-party
[10:30] <zden> I like release parties! I have to solve one problem. I have got radeon RV530 GPU, ubuntu 10.10 RC and my screen flicker. It happends in the console too, so it doesn't look like X only problem.
[10:31] <ezrabynx> Does anyone know why when i click "Agree & Subscribe" on Ubuntu One Basic plan, it does nothing but refreshes the page?
[10:31] <C-Otto> ok, i got the 10.10 isos, when does it go public?
[10:32] <soreau> ezrabynx: link?
[10:32] <gimbal> anyone know where to find ia64 installation images for ubuntu? finding plenty of  mentions about ia64 support at ubuntu.com, but they're admirably failing to provide any links for the same
[10:32] <zden> It is hard to describe. It can be something with vsync. Is the anybody with radeon x16xx graphics?
[10:32] <ezrabynx> soreau: https://one.ubuntu.com/plans/plan/5/buy/
[10:32] <TopGear> soreau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/509970/, the error :)
[10:33] <gimbal> or what's the bot named here? It's 'apt' in #debian i know
[10:33] <Friar> well lestat, something isn't right....I did a reboot just to be sure, but I'm getting permission errors when I try to run the script.
[10:33] <rww> gimbal: ubottu, and #debian's is dpkg
[10:33] <gimbal> ah yeah dpkg
[10:33] <gimbal> rww: thx
[10:34] <lestat> Friar: show me ls -l /usr/local/bin/<your script>
[10:34] <nascentmind> Hi. How do I completely delete my launchpad account?
[10:34] <Friar> lestat, spoke too soon. I was trying to run update.sh.....if I run sudo update.sh it works great!
[10:34] <gimbal> "Sorry I don't know anything about ia64" daymn
[10:34] <lestat> Friar: aaah ok, so problem solved ? :)
[10:34] <dahao> i don't konw
[10:34] <soreau> TopGear: Ok look what is happening. It tells you. First it sets the module path, then it looks for the nvidia_drv.so file in those paths
[10:34] <Friar> yes. thank lestat for the help. I know this is not a recommended way to do things, but I really appreciate it.
[10:35] <rww> nascentmind: try asking in #launchpad
[10:35] <dahao> what are you t
[10:35] <gimbal> well I guess I'm going back to Debian, for that. Thanks anyway ><
[10:35] <lestat> Friar: just to be sure, could you show permission on the script file ?
[10:35] <jonsaint> hi all. does anyone know when the new update will be avaliable?
[10:35] <soreau> TopGear: Since it can't find it, it fails. You should try to find this file on your system then set the module path accordingly or move the file to the place where it's already looking
[10:35] <kagliostro> hi guys just wondering if the 10.10 has been realeased for upgrade from repository or is still a release cadidate there as well
[10:35] <zden> I don't like this flickering. ATI is problem. It is posible avoid this vsync problem?
[10:35] <gimbal> whellll 10.10's release sure is a hot question-target
[10:36] <Friar> lestat,  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  155 2010-10-10 11:20 update.sh*
[10:36] <omar_> hello
[10:36] <lestat> Friar: ok perfect :)
[10:36] <omar_> can a ubuntu expert help me?
[10:36] <kagliostro> well they could have released at 10 o'clock this morning
[10:36] <gimbal> 10.10 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview
[10:36] <soreau> ezrabynx: Seems like a large issue if they have unintentionally broken links for pay-for support stuff
[10:36] <dahao>  you  know  显卡
[10:36] <lestat> omar_: hard to help you if you don't expose your problem
[10:36] <nascentmind> rww, thanks!
[10:36] <IAmBoxxy> !time Samoa
[10:36] <ezrabynx> soreau: k, i guess ill wait it out, thanks
[10:36] <TopGear> soreau, tryin' to find file.
[10:36] <soreau> ezrabynx: Try to find out if there's a ubuntu channel for all the 'web' stuff or for ubuntu one even
[10:36] <rethus> if i send an attachment (tar-file) with mail a@b.com -s MyMail < ./asdf.tar, i got a mail with many strange chars INTO my mailbody. what can i do, to get this as attachment in my incomming mail?
[10:37] <omar_> when i try to instal ubuntu from usb it says can not find kernel image
[10:37] <ezrabynx> soreau: been looking, no luck yet
[10:37] <soreau> ezrabynx: Try to find whoever is making this page and tell them
[10:37] <Friar> lestat, is /usr/local/bin the place where you can put any script and run it without having to add the absolute path? just in general though....
[10:37] <zden> There is a difference between RC and the final release?
[10:37] <soreau> ezrabynx: If I can't find who amde the page and the link is broken, I'd think twice before purchasing support from that entity
[10:37] <soreau> but that's just me
[10:37] <omar_> my pendrive is 8gb
[10:37] <lestat> Friar: /usr/local/bin/ is usually included in PATH, it's the recommended place to add custom script etc
[10:38] <rww> zden: not much of one, no. you can do regular system updates to get from RC to final, too.
[10:38] <ezrabynx> soreau: Well im not actually buying anythign, jsut tryign to get the free account to work, but thinking ill just stay with dropbox until they get it together over there
[10:38] <Friar> lestat, great...can I edit PATH? to include ~/bin? where is PATH defined?
[10:38] <lestat> Friar: also check every other command you run with sudo requires a password
[10:38] <kantor> hi
[10:38] <lestat> Friar: it's no a good idea
[10:38] <rethus>  if i send an attachment (tar-file) with mail a@b.com -s MyMail < ./asdf.tar, i got a mail with many strange chars INTO my mailbody. what can i do, to get this as attachment in my incomming mail?
[10:38] <IAmBoxxy> !time GMT
[10:38] <omar_> when i try to install ubuntu from usb it says could not find kernel image
[10:39] <zden> rww: yes i think
[10:39] <ohio> i have upgraded my kernel to 2.6.32.25.For this 3 .deb files were installed(linux-generic_2.6.32.25.27_i386.deb,linux-image-2.6.32-25-generic_2.6.32-25.44_i386.deb,linux-image-generic_2.6.32.25.27_i386.deb)but after installing and a restart pop up window says that ubuntu 10.04 running on low graphics mode.Now what to do?
[10:39] <Friar> lestat, changing PATH is not a good idea? or making a ~/bin directory?
[10:40] <lestat> Friar: chaning PATH is ok, as long as the path you add is only writable by root. The bad thing is to add folders owned by yourself
[10:40] <omar_> help me pliz
[10:40] <lestat> omar_: the usb stick is not booting, or is it the install from the usbstick that fails ?
[10:40] <Friar> oh I see...so it makes an extra level of security...so that to make a script that can run you have to be root to put it there.
[10:41] <ohio> is there anything else to install?
[10:41] <lestat> Friar: exactly, otherwise it's so easy for someone with your account to replace your bins with trojan code
[10:41] <nand0> What time is available to download the 10.10?
[10:41] <omar_> it boots but it just says that
[10:41] <Friar> I see. makes sense. but making it 755 will allow anyone to read the script and execute it. but they cannot modify it.
[10:42] <rethus> mail -s 'Hai' somewhere@domain.com < /tmp/message.tar send me the tar into the mailbody... how can i send it as attached file?
[10:42] <lestat> omar_: ok so i think it's a problem with the way you installed your usb stick
[10:42] <beli> hi i am not able to use my lenovo g550 webcam out of the box with ubuntu. what can i do about it?
[10:42] <Friar> lestat, i'm starting to see the bigger picture here. Thanks a lot for your time and explanations. I really appreciate it.
[10:42] <lestat> Friar: i think you could also give those permissions: 711
[10:42] <omar_> i just did what the ubuntu page said.
[10:43] <omar_> cus i want to instal ubnutu tu my net book
[10:43] <furi_wuff> hey guys, in the terminal, when i put down "emerald --replace", nothing happens; it doesn't even allow me to send another command. is it freezing? how can i fix this?
[10:43] <BlueMatt> a
[10:43] <Friar> lestat, so they can't even read it, just execute. perfect.
[10:43] <ervis> hi anyone download 10.10 ?
[10:43] <lestat> Friar: not 100% sure it would work though, but 90% sure :P
[10:44] <Friar> lestat, great. thanks. I did check other commands to make sure that they require me to enter my password and they do. Thank You.
[10:44] <lestat> Friar: also, if you use that "technique" for other stuff, be very careful what command you allow
[10:44] <kantor> I've written a little program that first of all was created to ease my life. I thought that maybe others could benefit of this program also, so I should share it. My question is where should I put it, so others have access to it ? Ok. I know the big free software/open source hosting web pages (sourceforge, gnu, fsf, gna . . . ) but I don't want to create a new project for this little program because it is not a big thing . . . I just want to put it somewhere
[10:44] <kantor> quickly where other free software users can find it.
[10:44] <lestat> Friar: for example if you were to allow to run vim as root with no passwd, it's so easy to get a root shell from there
[10:45] <furi_wuff> kantor, what is the program?
[10:45] <Friar> lestat, I don't think I'll be using that again. unless I reinstall and I want to do it again....what is vim?
[10:45] <lestat> Friar: a text editor, from which you can exec command
[10:45] <HexLaTor> kantor, pastebin the link to download it (rapidshare, mediafire...)
[10:46] <FDFlock> vim = "vi improved", a text editor
[10:46] <lestat> Friar: so for example if you allow to start vim as root with no password, i can exec /bin/bash from there, and the spawned shell will be a root shell
[10:46] <FDFlock> when we say "vi" nowadays we actually mean "vim"
[10:46] <Friar> lestat, I see. so if root opens up vim then he/she could run just about any command from vim as root?
[10:46] <ssn> hi guys
[10:46] <FDFlock> Friar: exactly
[10:47] <lestat> Friar: not only root, but any user allowed to run your wrapper script
[10:47] <lestat> as root
[10:47] <ssn> the power saving dialog doesnt listen to me. I dont want my laptop to lock the display, but it does anyways. how do i get rid of this?
[10:47] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[10:47] <omar_> any one now how to fix ma problem?
[10:48] <Friar> lestat, thanks. I see where this is going...be very careful about using this "technique" with other things cause it could easily cause problems.
[10:48] <EvaLuaTe> is there any way to change the behaviour of shift+insert to paste the clipboard contents instead of the primary contents?
[10:48] <lestat> Friar: exactly ;)
[10:48] <ah_kevin> ..
[10:48] <shazzr> It's out! :D
[10:48] <FDFlock> EvaLuaTe: installing a clipboard manager?
[10:48] <sacarlson> kantor: I have seen single sourceforge projects that were a group of many people with many small things in them.  at least in sourceforge when someone googles looking for what you have they have a better chance of finding it.
[10:49] <Kentrel> Hi, I run into a frequent problem when booting where I can't mount any of my drives. Nothing seems to fix it except rebooting and trying again
[10:49] <kantor> furi_wuff, it is a program that reads TAG data from audio files, and change the songs names based on the tag data (like artist name, album, track no. . . .)
[10:49] <Kentrel> It sometimes says my NTFS partition is currently in use by another process, which seems crazy
[10:49] <WXZ> is it possible to put 2 bootable thingies on 1 cd?
[10:49] <Noiano> hello
[10:49] <Kentrel> So I think I need to run some disk checking utility. How do I do that?
[10:49] <jassie> how to see the specs of my laptop?
[10:50] <EvaLuaTe> FDFlock, that doesn't help... It seems that shift+insert isn't freedesktop compatible in ubuntu, according to this: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/ClipboardsWiki only the middle click should paste the contents of primary, and all other commands should paste the contents of the clipboard
[10:50] <WXZ> jassie: type in your laptop manufacturer and serial in google
[10:50] <soreau> jassie: 'lspci'
[10:50] <jassie> asus
[10:50] <nucc1> anyone use an epson sx218 printer here?
[10:51] <soreau> ! anyone | nucc1
[10:51] <kantor> furi_wuff, this is very useful if you have a lot of splitted audio data, like when you split the tracks from a big flac file to individual tracks. In that case the output files will be split_track. . . So you can use this program to read the TAG from flac's and rename the files
[10:51] <jassie> where to see the serial?
[10:51] <soreau> jassie: On the bottom of your laptop?
[10:51] <WXZ> ^
[10:51] <FDFlock> EvaLuaTe: Yes but a clipboard manager could automatically combine the two buffers, I think
[10:51] <nucc1> soreau, i want to buy the printer, so, if anyone is successfully using it, i would like to know. That is my question.
[10:52] <matthes> any ideas how to get rid of a broken dependency?
[10:52] <Jordan_U> WXZ: It depends on the "thingies".
[10:52] <lestat> matthes: try sudo apt-get install -f
[10:52] <sacarlson> kantor: I'm not sure but I think pyrenamer might do something like that.  but when you do it your self you can always make it just the way you wanted it or add to it.
[10:52] <omar_> when i try to instal ubnutu to my netbook from usb it says could not find kernel image: linux
[10:52] <jassie> 85oAAQ300571
[10:52] <WXZ> 2 ubuntu minimal installs
[10:52] <anoop> any idea when ubuntu 10.10 will release?
[10:52] <Jordan_U> WXZ: Minimal installs, or minimal installers?
[10:52] <WXZ> officially released anoop?
[10:52] <WXZ> installers
[10:53] <EvaLuaTe> FDFlock, right now I'm using parcellite and it can't (also, I tried fixing the source, but it seems pretty complicated, as primary is set to the current selection every time, and if I try to overwrite primary with the clipboard contents I get strange behaviour when selecting text)...
[10:53] <soreau> nucc1: What I usually do for new purchases is google the model of the device with keywords like 'problem' 'trouble' 'ubuntu' 'linux' or what have you
[10:53] <matthes> lestat: Removing libsdl-image1.2-dev ...
[10:53] <matthes> dpkg: error processing libsdl-image1.2-dev (--remove): cannot remove `/.': Invalid argument
[10:53] <Jordan_U> WXZ: Yes, and it's not particularly difficult.
[10:53] <Ubuntu-Maverick> MAVERICK IS OUT NOW http://tinyurl.com/Ubuntu-Maverick-ISO
[10:53] <matthes> Errors were encountered while processing: libsdl-image1.2-dev
[10:53] <Ubuntu-Maverick> MAVERICK IS OUT NOW http://tinyurl.com/Ubuntu-Maverick-ISO
[10:53] <Ubuntu-Maverick> MAVERICK IS OUT NOW http://tinyurl.com/Ubuntu-Maverick-ISO
[10:53] <FloodBot3> Ubuntu-Maverick: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:53] <matthes> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:53] <FloodBot3> matthes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:53] <kantor> sacarlson, I never heard of pyrename, I need to take a look, but thanks that you pointed out to me
[10:53] <anoop> is it out? #ubuntu10.10
[10:53] <jassie> 85oAAQ300571
[10:53] <WXZ> Jordan_U: is there a special method of doing it
[10:53] <nucc1> soreau, i did, i'm not getting any useful results
[10:53] <soreau> nucc1: It's not likely that someone sitting at their desk logged in watching right now that has that exact model printer
[10:53] <WXZ> or do you just burn both on the disk?
[10:53] <omar_> can any one help me?
[10:54] <soreau> ! help | omar_
[10:54] <nucc1> soreau, in which case a general "epson is not so good for linux" will suffice
[10:54] <WXZ> Jordan_U: what google query can I use to get instructions
[10:54] <Jordan_U> WXZ: I doubt there is a page about it :)
[10:54] <WXZ> as you can see, my thingie terminology isn't very extensive
[10:54] <omar_> when i try to instal ubnutu netbook version to my netbook from usb it boots but it says could not find kernel image:linux
[10:55] <soreau> nucc1: ISTR lexmark hating me. I have an epson and HP printers that I have been able to get working ok
[10:55] <WXZ> so I just burn both isos on 1 cd
[10:55] <FDFlock> EvaLuaTe: I see, I was ready to propose Parcellite but I just checked the website and you are right, it doesn't help... Upstream seems dead, too :(
[10:55] <FDFlock> I wonder whether there are other good clipboard managers for Gnome... (Glipper is dead too... argh!)
[10:55] <WXZ> ?
[10:55] <Jordan_U> WXZ: No, I'm writing instructions now.
[10:55] <WXZ> oh, thanks
[10:55] <nucc1> soreau, hp usually works, but i'm interested in this epson because i'm getting a good deal (with some free ink vouchers)
[10:55] <EvaLuaTe> FDFlock, and that is why I thought that maybe changing the behaviour of shift+insert to paste the clipboard contents instead of the primary contents would fix the problem (beside the fact that it would make gnome/ubuntu freedesktop compatible...)
[10:56] <dandart> jeebus, 1520! for lucid it was struggling for 1000
[10:56] <Jordan_U> WXZ: The entire minimal installer is included in the initrd. So all you need to do to boot the minimal installer is to load the kernel and initrd.
[10:56] <rww> dandart: actually, Lucid was up past 2000
[10:56] <mipo> I've got a problem - when i start my Ubuntu there is this error messag "Can not mount /home - Hit "s" to repair it automatical (i don't have the original error message, because it's in german ;) ) - Anyone knows a solution?
[10:56] <WXZ> I don't know what an initrd is
[10:56] <dandart> rww: Huh, maybe I missed that. There'll be more soon then!
[10:57] <rww> dandart: doubt it. This release is on a weekend instead of thursday; less IRC activity on weekends
[10:57] <Jordan_U> WXZ: Do you know how to mount an iso file?
[10:57] <andeeeuk> does anyone know if the stable release of ubuntu 10.10 has been released yet?
[10:57] <dandart> rww: I'm surprised at that.
[10:57] <rww> andeeeuk: it hasn't
[10:57] <WXZ> not when there's no OS I don't
[10:57] <andeeeuk> ok thats
[10:57] <soreau> nucc1: All's I can say is that epson has drivers for linux and it should work
[10:57] <andeeeuk> thanks
[10:57] <WXZ> the computer's completely blank
[10:57] <nucc1> soreau, that's quite helpful, thanks
[10:57] <hdtdi> hi when i start my computer i have wireless keyring password. how can i uninstall that so that it connects to wless automaticaly
[10:58] <Jordan_U> WXZ: I mean on the machine you're working from, the one you'll create the CD with.
[10:58] <andeeeuk> do you know when it is going to be released?
[10:58] <rww> dandart: not much less, though. I guess the bigger difference is that 10.10 isn't LTS and jono hasn't told his twitter followers to mob the channel ;)
[10:58] <WXZ> Jordan_U: yes, I do
[10:58] <tabor> where does synaptic saves fetched packages?
[10:58] <dandart> rww: I'll tell my denters to mob it...
[10:58] <rww> tabor: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:58] <tabor> rww thanks
[10:58] <WXZ> it's mounted
[10:59] <Dhilip89_> Ubuntu 10.10 released
[10:59] <Dhilip89_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/
[10:59] <soreau> hdtdi: The way I do it is stop network manager and nm-applet from ever starting, then use a script to have it connect at boot time
[10:59] <dandart> hooray! or something.
[10:59] <hdtdi> soreau, i see
[10:59] <andeeeuk> Dhilip89_: is that the stable release then?
[11:00] <ah_kevin> i'd installed
[11:00] <rooisto47> Dhilip89_, use torrents to not get the server flooded
[11:00] <dandart> so... it's out but not on ubuntu.com yet huh?
[11:00] <soreau> hdtdi: That is somewhat of a hack but I haven't found a 'proper' way to do it
[11:00] <Dhilip89_> That is final release
[11:00] <rooisto47> dandart, http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[11:00] <Dhilip89_> I'm downloading one of them
[11:01] <NickyJ101> ISP blocks torrents :( Any DL release?
[11:01] <dandart> rooisto47 I meant the homepage!
[11:01] <andeeeuk> excellent, nice one guys
[11:01] <WXZ> Jordan_U: what do I do now?
[11:01] <Jordan_U> WXZ: Ok, the only files you need from the mininal iso are "initrd.gz" and "linux".
[11:01] <Polopolo> When do they update the homepage for the 10.10 release?
[11:01] <rww> !party
[11:01] <devunt> It's 2010/10/10 10:00 UTC
[11:01] <Polopolo> I see :)
[11:01] <dandart> NickyJ101 http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/
[11:01] <of2vil> 933kbs :)
[11:01] <WXZ> ok, I have them
[11:01] <Jordan_U> WXZ: Are you creating the CD from an Ubuntu 10.04 install?
[11:01] <WXZ> what do I do with them?
[11:02] <Jordan_U> WXZ: I'll get to that :)
[11:02] <WXZ> 1 is from 9.10 and 1 is from 10.04
[11:02] <WXZ> trying to get them both on the same Cd
[11:02] <Jordan_U> WXZ: What OS are you using to create the CD though?
[11:02] <WXZ> 10.10
[11:02] <WXZ> do I have to go to ubuntu+1 for this?
[11:03] <Jordan_U> WXZ: I think it's fine to continue here, though someone else may differ.
[11:03] <hoainamken> nam
[11:03] <hoainamken> hello
[11:03] <ugliefrog> for petes sake where do i find the gimp.exe file..help
[11:03] <WXZ> it was more of a technical/is it possible question
[11:03] <omar_> when i try to install ubnutu to my netbook it says couldnt find kernel image
[11:04] <Jordan_U> WXZ: First you need to create a directory that will contain all the files that will go on the CD, I'll call this directory "overlay".
[11:04] <WXZ> ok
[11:04] <andeeeuk> Is it also safe to update from ubuntu 10.04 now then?
[11:04] <andeeeuk> like synaptic updates?
[11:04] <Jordan_U> WXZ: Now copy the initrd.gz and linux files into this directory wherever you want them, overlay/boot is reasonable.
[11:05] <andeeeuk> not sure if it will be distributed to the repo yet
[11:05] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello! What time will Maverick Meerkat be released?
[11:05] <Jordan_U> WXZ: You can name them whatever you want, just so that you know which is which.
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> Emmanuel_Chanel: "sometime".
[11:05] <Dhilip89> Already released: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/
[11:05] <hdtdi> no its not ;)
[11:05] <WXZ> overlay/lucid
[11:05] <WXZ> overlay/karmic
[11:05] <Jordan_U> WXZ: Ok.
[11:05] <six110> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/
[11:05] <WXZ> the lucid mount crashed for some reason, so one second
[11:05] <six110> is out!
[11:05] <six110> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/
[11:05] <six110> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/
[11:06] <FloodBot3> six110: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:06] <Jordan_U> WXZ: Now you need to create a grub.cfg that will boot these files, which will be overlay/boot/grub/grub.cfg (that is the path that you need to use).
[11:06] <WXZ> ok
[11:07] <soreau> Jordan_U: I don't understand how that would work. If you boot such a 'dual-iso' disk, how do you select one or the other?
[11:07] <WXZ> done
[11:07] <jongleur> soreau: to be exact you don't boot one of the isos, you will boot grub
[11:07] <kalken> hello guys. Have any of you had problems installing ubuntu-server 10.10 (rc) in virt-manager (as guest)?
[11:07] <soreau> Jordan_U: Ah ok
[11:08] <Jordan_U> soreau: From the grub menu (I'll post an example grub.cfg in a moment).
[11:08] <kalken> install goes fine but it just hangs on boot later
[11:08] <soreau> Jordan_U: Got it.
[11:08] <ganeshran> hi guys whats the terminal command to upgrade to 10.10
[11:08] <kalken> ganeshran: google?
[11:08] <cupis> ganeshran, update-manager -d
[11:08] <kalken> :)
[11:08] <Muldini> "google?" will upgrade to 10.10? I didn't know that ;)
[11:08] <ganeshran> kalken: i got sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:08] <ImaginaryFriend> my ubuntu stopped starting into full gnome session - i only get pure X + xterm open - i can write gnome-session there but i get "vanilla" system without my settings
[11:08] <ImaginaryFriend> anyone a hint?
[11:08] <KoinKoinKoin> THE GAME
[11:09] <ganeshran> kalken: i already googled. but got some different answers. so came here to make sure
[11:09] <WXZ> alright, well I'm good up until grub.cfg
[11:09] <kalken> ganeshran: thats just for upgrading within current version :)
[11:09] <devunt> yay!
[11:09] <devunt> It's out!
[11:09] <kalken> any of you tried to use ubuntu-server as kvm guest?
[11:09] <kalken> i cant get it to work
[11:10] <devunt> ubuntu 10.10 is out!
[11:10] <ganeshran> cupis: Thanks.. that new release bar wasnt available when  started the update manager without -d command
[11:10] <sanduz2> yep i got it :)
[11:10] <sanduz2> whats the best way to put 10.10 on a USB for install
[11:10] <sanduz2> ?
[11:10] <Jordan_U> WXZ: Your grub.cfg should look something like this: http://pastebin.com/91WwTQ9h
[11:10] <kalken> sanduz2: use start-up disc creator within ubuntu
[11:10] <soreau> ! download
[11:11] <Muldini> sanduz2, see step 2: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[11:11] <Naznaz> Hi, afaik 10.10 should be out today, but why doesn't my 10.04 upgrade when i say update-manager -c or update-manager --dist-upgrade. update-manager -d can't be right, can it?
[11:11] <soreau> ! torrents
[11:11] <ganeshran> so whats the size of updgrade from 10.04 to 10.10
[11:11] <devunt> torrent or web. what is fast
 Ubuntu 10.10 is released
[11:11] <sanduz2> thanks
[11:11] <tensorpudding> !isitout
[11:11] <opc0de> hello, i have ubuntu server in vmware server and i have no sound, what is the module to modprobe ? please
[11:11] <WXZ> ok
[11:12] <hdtdi> RELEASED
[11:12] <Jordan_U> WXZ: Once you have the grub.cfg created you just need to use grub-mkrescue to generate a bootable iso with grub. "grub-mkrescue -o /path/to/new/file.iso overlay"
[11:12] <WXZ> from the directory where my overlay folder is right?
[11:12] <ganeshran> Naznaz: It is update-manager -d
[11:12] <GNuLinux> it's out new ubuntu
[11:12] <fernando81> ?
[11:12] <ganeshran> i just now started the upgrade... yay!!
[11:12] <fernando81> ?hel
[11:12] <hdtdi> yes
[11:12] <Jordan_U> WXZ: Then you can test it with "qemu /path/to/file.iso" and if everything seems to work burn the iso to a CD.
[11:12] <fernando81> command
[11:13] <Naznaz> ganeshran, but why is it still a developer release?
[11:13] <fernando81> help
[11:13] <fernando81> --help
[11:13] <WXZ> ok
[11:13] <fernando81> -help
[11:13] <ganeshran> Naznaz: oh is it? I dont know. I got the answer few minutes from the forum before you asked it
[11:13] <binario77> Why are they still recommending the 32 bit version? I have 4Gb ram so presumably would be better with 64
[11:14] <rww> binario77: then use 64-bit
[11:14] <NickyJ101> #ubuntu-release-party
[11:14] <ganeshran> Its asking me to download 1.1 GB
[11:14] <WXZ> is there a karma system on this channel?
[11:14] <ganeshran> Is that right?
[11:14] <sorsis> HELP! apache is running and it works but can't find how to access files in cgi-bin via browser.
[11:14] <Naznaz> ganeshran, oh okay, thanks, update-manager --help told me that the -d option was to check for devel releases
[11:14] <WXZ> ~karma
[11:14] <rww> binario77: the recommendation is for people who /don't/ know what bitness they need ;)
[11:14] <rww> WXZ: no
[11:14] <ganeshran> i thought ubuntu itself comes on 700 MB
[11:14] <WXZ> oh, nvm then
[11:14] <oliver__> I'm having trouble getting my ndiswrapper driver be used with the hardware. The driver is installed, but it does not associate with the hardware.
[11:14] <ganeshran> why does upgrade cost more
[11:14] <sorsis> ganeshran: it's available in cd and DVD
[11:14] <_kroson_> rww: at last they took that "not recommended" advice out
[11:14] <rww> ganeshran: because you have additional packages installed that also need to be updated
[11:14] <rww> _kroson_: indeed
[11:15] <ganeshran> rww: oh ok
[11:15] <NickyJ101> Is it officially released?
[11:15] <rww> NickyJ101: yes
[11:15] <ganeshran> yes i installed lot more stuff
[11:15] <hartzie> yes
[11:15] <ganeshran> guess it will take an hour or so
[11:15] <NickyJ101> OK, anyone got update manager to get it?
[11:15] <ImaginaryFriend> my ubuntu stopped starting into full gnome session - i only get pure X + xterm open - i can write gnome-session there but i get "vanilla" system without my settings could anyone offer a hint?
[11:16] <WXZ> what package is "grub-mkrescue" in?
[11:16] <Naznaz> why does the update-manager -d say "This is still a RELEASE-CANDIDATE release." I thought it was out right nowß :D
[11:16] <c3l> the torrent for 10.10 doesnt work: "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker." where is the working torrent file?
[11:16] <ssn> hm
[11:16] <NickyJ101> Naznaz: my point exactly
[11:16] <WXZ> xorriso?
[11:16] <rww> c3l: Ubuntu's torrent tracker sucks. Leave it running, DHT should pick it up.
[11:16] <peto_> hola
[11:17] <rww> Naznaz: don't do -d, just update-manager
[11:17] <Jordan_U> WXZ: grub-common, but you'll need grub-pc as well.
[11:17] <c3l> rww: oh.. thanks
[11:17] <Khanz> Hello
[11:17] <Jordan_U> WXZ: grub-mkrescue uses xorriso.
[11:17] <Naznaz> rww, just update-manager tells me there are no updates available
[11:17] <rww> Naznaz: -d is for Development releases
[11:17] <Khanz> Does anyone know how upgrade 10.10RC to Full?
[11:17] <rww> !final | Khanz
[11:17] <Naznaz> rww, i know but that seems the only way for me to get it
[11:17] <oliver__> how do I set my wifi PCI card to use an install ndiswrapper driver
[11:17] <rww> Naznaz: try -c instead of -d
[11:18] <Naznaz> rww, already did
[11:18] <rww> Naznaz: meh, stupid program. -c and -p?
[11:18] <Yaron-Heb> The torrents doesn't work either
[11:19] <Naznaz> rww, yummy, thanks, that's it .-)
[11:19] <Yaron-Heb> I tried this torrent but its no good: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[11:19] <rww> cool :)
[11:19] <WXZ> yay ^.^
[11:19] <asdfasd> where can i get the 64bit version of realplayer?
[11:19] <rww> Yaron-Heb: leave it running, it'll connect eventually. Ubuntu's tracker isn't the best.
[11:19] <Naznaz> ouch my smiley got poked in the eye ;)
[11:19] <binario77> I'm just doing a straight forward download and it's going to take about 11 mins in all 255/695 already
[11:19] <eboyjr> Tracker: [Failure reason "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."] What does that mean?
[11:19] <NickyJ101> My update manager not got it yet :(
[11:19] <Yaron-Heb> rww: I will thanks!
[11:19] <Sypher|NL> any clue why do-release-upgrade on a server doesn't work while on a desktop it does? Same mirror
[11:20] <NickyJ101> asdfasd: you sure there is a 64-bit version??
[11:21] <andeeeuk> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'security.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[11:21] <andeeeuk> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:21] <wamicho> finally 10.10 out
[11:21] <andeeeuk> has anyone had those errors?
[11:21] <pengxiang> yes
[11:21] <c3l> eboyjr: ubuntus tracker sucks, tell your client to use DHT for the torrent
[11:22] <Guest83871> !isitout
[11:22] <Guest83871> false :P
[11:22] <Naznaz> ubottu lies. :p
[11:22] <metoikos> is 10.10 arrived=
[11:22] <metoikos> ?
[11:22] <eboyjr> c3l: Okay thanks I don't know how though, I'm using rtorrent
[11:22] <pengxiang> what do you see???
[11:23] <Gangrel> ermm anyone can help me with upgrading to 10.10 because i get error when trying to upgrade to it?
[11:23] <AbhiJit> hey
[11:23] <c3l> eboyjr: look at the man page. like dht=on in your config file
[11:23] <ImaginaryFriend> my ubuntu stopped starting into full gnome session - i only get pure X + xterm open - i can write gnome-session and then it starts without window borders and the top bar (unr)
[11:23] <AbhiJit> released?
[11:23] <z_eno_z16984> metoikos:I am upgrading now
[11:23] <Pineapples> Μου αρέσει χάρμα πλάκες
[11:23] <metoikos> yay :)
[11:23] <babai> got peers ultimately :)
[11:23] <pengxiang> who come from china?
[11:23] <ImaginaryFriend> what is the name of UNR top bar application?
[11:23] <Gangrel> !10.10
[11:24] <Pineapples> Είμαι Έλληνας!
[11:24] <z_eno_z16984> penxiang:me
[11:24] <ah_kevin> 干什么
[11:24] <Gangrel> kai egw alla den ton kanw 8ema
[11:24] <seed_> fgf
[11:24] <Xeno__> Hello
[11:24] <Yaron-Heb> seems like the torrent was not registered to the tracker...
[11:24] <pengxiang> where are come form
[11:24] <Buffcns2> topic needs to be updated
[11:25] <Cojage> hi
[11:25] <Cojage> i have 2gb
[11:25] <Xeno__> Can someone give me a link to the 10.10 ubuntu dowload
[11:25] <pengxiang> where are you come from
[11:25] <Cojage> should i get 32 or 64 bit?
[11:25] <mae_tae> people, i had this scenario modem --------> switch ---------> WAN Public IP (120.xxx.xxx.xx) Squid Server LOCAL IP (192.168.4.41) <----------> PC (192.168.4.42), how can i able to forward connection that 4.42 host can access to the internet
[11:25] <ganeshran> Xeno__: If you are running 10.04 already use the command update-manager -d
[11:25] <Xeno__> Im actually needing to install Ubuntu
[11:25] <mae_tae> route contains only WAN IP & 4.0 network, what still missing?
[11:26] <ganeshran> Xeno_ or go to ubuntu.com and click download
[11:26] <Naznaz> Cojage, if it is 2GB of RAM, 32bit suffices
[11:26] <Xeno__> I am currently running WinXP
[11:26] <pause> hi im having some trouble with my sound (runnning 10.04 netbook remix), im having a constant static sound "playing" even though my sound is muted and so on
[11:26] <Cojage> k naznaz
[11:26] <pengxiang> how to use chinese
[11:26] <pengxiang> for help
[11:26] <ganeshran> Xeno__: or you can also take from torrents
[11:26] <TorranceJack> is it worth installing from scratch or should I upgrade 10.04 ?
[11:26] <Xeno__> should i download 10.04?
[11:26] <Super_Roach> TorranceJack, hopefully an upgrade is fine ;)
[11:26] <ganeshran> TorranceJack: better to upgrade. All your additional packages will also get updated
[11:26] <Xeno__> It gave me a 404 error with 10.10
[11:26] <ganeshran> Xeno__: no download 10.10
[11:27] <Xeno__> it keeps giving me a 404 error though >=O
[11:27] <george__> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/10.10/
[11:27] <tensorpudding> Xeno__: Downloading it directly will be hard for a while since the site will get hammered. I recommend downloading the torrent.
[11:27] <ganeshran> Xeno__: maybe its slow because of large number of people are upgrading
[11:28] <ganeshran> Xeno__: try from torrents
[11:28] <Xeno__> can you give me a Torrent link
[11:28] <eboyjr> c3l: I still get the message though thanks btw
[11:28] <Cordell> the torrents are not working
[11:28] <mattcodes> is there a modern editor with VIM bindings for Ubuntu other than Kate?
[11:28] <Xeno__> Crap >.< i uninstalled Vuze ages ago
[11:28] <Sheepherd_> hey guys im unsure if to use the desktop or netbook version of ubuntu on my HP ProBook 4520s
[11:28] <tensorpudding> Xeno__: It's on the release page, look for the one with .torrent at the end
[11:28] <Misterio> I am thinking about staying on LTS versions, what should I do?
[11:28] <pause> i im having some trouble with my sound (runnning 10.04 netbook remix), im having a constant static sound "playing" even though my sound is muted and so on any clues?
[11:28] <rcsheets> mattcodes: i take it vim doesn't count?
[11:28] <tensorpudding> mattcodes: is vim not modern?
[11:29] <Xeno__> with Ubuntu DVD Live can i still use a CD-R?
[11:29] <ubuntu-user-b2> if you have 2 cd-rom's
[11:29] <Sheepherd_> what version would you recommend me?
[11:29] <tensorpudding> Xeno__: it won't fit
[11:29] <Xeno__> I was told i only need 1 CD-R
[11:29] <binario77> My direct download has finished and burning the CD now
[11:29] <Cordell> http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[11:29] <c3l> eboyjr: yeah, take a look in the man page. I had some issues too, didnt bother now, so I launched transmission, and it picked up DHT in about a minute
[11:29] <tensorpudding> Xeno__: if you're using the CD version
[11:29] <Igramul> Hi, after adding some nfs mounts in /etc/fstab, Ubuntu stops booting with "could not mount home share" and offers to continue anyway (S) or to give me a root shell. If I choose to continue anyway, everything is fine and all shares are mounted.
[11:29] <pause> Xeno__: cd-r isnt big enough
[11:29] <mattcodes> vim has problem with autoindenting of Javascript, I can use vi/vim enough to get by but I talking about being in the editor all day. I want a file explorer, indentation (auto), etc..
[11:30] <Xeno__> Wait a minute
[11:30] <ubuntu-user-b2> @Shepperd use desktop
[11:30] <Xeno__> Cant i just INSTALL it and Dual boot?
[11:30] <Igramul> How to mount nfs shares on startup without that annoying screen?
[11:30] <Gand_Darkwater> jeej download complete :)
[11:30] <kim0> I am dist-upgrading to 10.10, any idea why ubuntu-desktop is "kept-back" ?
[11:30] <ubuntu-user-b2> @Ingramul add the shares to your fstab
[11:30] <Xeno__> Anyone?
[11:30] <Naznaz> Xeno__, if you mean dual-boot XP and Maverick, yes, of course
[11:31] <ugliefrog> ive been using the 10.10 rc....do i need to type a command in the terminal to get it to update?
[11:31] <tensorpudding> Xeno__: Sure.
[11:31] <ubuntu-user-b2> @ugliefrog alt+f2 -> gksu update-manager -d
[11:31] <Naznaz> ugliefrog, afaik just the normal apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[11:31] <ubuntu-user-b2> and recheck for updates
[11:31] <Xeno__> Is there a way to Dual Boot my PC as i currently have XP?
[11:31] <ugliefrog> Ty Ty
[11:31] <c3l> ugliefrog: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:31] <Xeno__> If so
[11:31] <Xeno__> give me instructions plz
[11:31] <MarkusH> Xeno__:
[11:31] <MarkusH> jes
[11:31] <Naznaz> ugliefrog, rather use update-manager -c -p
[11:31] <MarkusH> yes
[11:31] <ubuntu-user-b2> @Xenu__ use wubi
[11:31] <Khanz> !final
[11:31] <kim0> Xeno__: Just install it .. it does dual boot with XP
[11:32] <Xeno__> I was told Wubi causes problem
[11:32] <GregValheru> those who don't see the 10.10 option in upgrade manager: click settings button, then in the 'Release upgrade' drop-down list select - 'normal releases'. Close the settings window and click 'check' button again
[11:32] <Xeno__> problems**
[11:32] <NickyJ101> just so you know, if you have 10.04. In update manager, go to settingsm then change release type to normal, not LTS
[11:32] <Naznaz> GregValheru, that didn't help me, though :>
[11:32] <ubuntu-user-b2> the wubi problems were fixen
[11:32] <kim0> Xeno__: burn the iso, boot it and install from it, it will keep XP safe
[11:32] <tensorpudding> Xeno__: there are tons of guides on the internet to dual-booting windows and ubunut...
[11:32] <MarkusH> Xeno__: download ubuntu 10.10 iso file, burn it on cd / dvd and boot from cd
[11:32] <ubuntu-user-b2> fixed*
[11:32] <Greyhound-> 10.10.10 - great release date for ubuntu 10.10 :D
[11:32] <Cordell> hey guys once i get finished with the direct download of the 64 ubuntu, i will start to seed
[11:32] <tensorpudding> Xeno__: You have to worry about repartitioning, but that's about it
[11:33] <Khanz> there should be 1000 ubuntu owned seedboxes
[11:33] <oman> help please
[11:33] <Sheepherd_> guys can you please tell me if i need the desktop or netbook build for my HP ProBook 4520s?
[11:33] <audunh> so I'm running ubuntu 10.4 and the aptitude upgrade command isn't downloading 10.10, any idea why anyone?
[11:33] <oman> how do i upgrade from ISO
[11:33] <NickyJ101> I repeat, those trying to update via update manager, make sure the settings in update are set to Normal release, not LTS release which is normal
[11:33] <travkin> KDE vs. GNOME performance?
[11:33] <mbn_18> Just wonder, what is the minimum required memory to run Linux with FireFox? I dont care for Gnome / KDE.
[11:33] <Cordell> oman what do you mean
[11:33] <oman> i am downloading ISO file
[11:34] <NickyJ101> travkin: Gnome more efficient, KDE more visual in a nutshell
[11:34] <Naznaz> NickyJ101, that doesn't help
[11:34] <Khanz> !final | audunh
[11:34] <Xeno__> >.<
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> travkin:  use what you perfer. unless you got a really old system.. gnome may be a little faster.
[11:34] <tensorpudding> Xeno__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[11:34] <bn> Why I can't see the upgrade to 10.10 in the Update Manager?
[11:34] <oman> can i upgrade my 10.04 from it
[11:34] <NickyJ101> Naznaz: how are you trying to update?
[11:34] <Gand_Darkwater> Sheepherd_: its up to you if you want to run the Netbook-version or the normal one...
[11:34] <Misterio> NickyJ101: I'm sorry, but my KDE works better than Gnome
[11:34] <soreau> oman: You can use 'gksu update-manager -d' to use the package manager or you can use the iso image to install fresh
[11:34] <MarkusH> oman: you can directly upgrade from the system
[11:34] <NickyJ101> oman: yep, go to update manager, then settings and change Release type from LTS to Normal
[11:34] <sinedio> wil installing a kernel from the backports ppa give me the option to boot older kernels in case something does not work as it should ?
[11:34] <Cordell> oman you can upgrade with out burning a new cd
[11:34] <Naznaz> NickyJ101, I'm updating right now with update-manager -c -p but I had set the option to normal releases and update-manager -c or --dist-upgrade did do nothing
[11:34] <GregValheru> naznaz, you mean it didn't show the upgrade option on the top of the window, or I won't DL?
[11:34] <NickyJ101> soreau: -d for develop though?
[11:34] <Jordan_U> WXZ: Did you get it working?
[11:35] <Sheepherd_> Gand_Darkwater, does that mean i can also use the desktop version on my notebook without restrictions?
[11:35] <Naznaz> GregValheru, it didn't show the option to upgrade
[11:35] <WXZ> yeah, I qemu'd it
[11:35] <Guest83871> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[11:35] <Guest83871> ^^^ READ
[11:35] <FloodBot3> Guest83871: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <WXZ> and it seems fine
[11:35] <NickyJ101> yeah, it took about 5 mins after direct link available for it, should be working now as mine is
[11:35] <Gand_Darkwater> Sheepherd_: yes
[11:35] <c3l> mbn_18: if you really want the minimal setup, ubuntu isnt your choice. but if you do want to use ubuntu, but no DE (gnome or kde etc) thats fine. all you need for firefox is basically X, but thats not very user friendly. maybe take a look at xfce, a smaller desktop environment (DE)
[11:35] <mae_tae> people, i had this scenario globe modem ---------> switch -----------> (WAN IP (120.xxx.xxx.xx) Squid Server LOCAL ip (192.168.4.41)) -----------> PC (192.168.4.42), how will i make that 4.42 can access internet?
[11:35] <mae_tae> route on squid server is only WAN network & 4.0 Network, no default gateway, is this the reason why it cannot access internet from 4.42 host
[11:35] <soreau> NickyJ101: yep
[11:35] <Sheepherd_> Gand_Darkwater, ok thank you very much =)
[11:36] <NickyJ101> soreau: so if you use that you would get the RC version wouldnt you?
[11:36] <oman> ok thx
[11:36] <soreau> mae_tae: Do yourself a favor and ask in #networking
[11:36] <oman> upgrading now
[11:36] <bn> Yes!!! I am upgrading!!!
[11:36] <mbn_18> c3l: I need it to run on a server for automate test usibilities. I assume apt-get firefox will require some sort of X packages
[11:36] <oman> WAIT
[11:36] <Xeno__> Lets say i had a DVD+R
[11:36] <oman> Failed to fetch
[11:36] <pengxiang> 有 没有中国的朋友？？？
[11:36] <Xeno__> Then would it burn on there?
[11:36] <soreau> NickyJ101: Yes but only until RC becomes just R
[11:36] <Khanz> @Xeno__ Yes
[11:36] <soreau> ;)
[11:36] <audunh> Khanz: ah thanks, but no, I am running the plain 10.4
[11:37] <NickyJ101> soreau: oh right, so if you did -d now, it would download 10.10, not the RC?
[11:37] <Xeno__> So if i were to burn the ISO onto the DVD+R i wouldnt have to install it?
[11:37] <TheKiller23> Hello , is there any way to change my " Real name "  from ubuntu ?
[11:37] <z_eno_z16984> 有啊
[11:37] <soreau> NickyJ101: There really is no rc for 11.04 yet
[11:37] <oman> ppl
[11:37] <Khanz> @Xeno__ If you want a live cd yes.
[11:37] <oman> Failed to fetch
[11:37] <Xeno__> As in if i took the DVD+R out it would Automatically boot XP?
[11:37] <NickyJ101> soreau: did not know that, easier than changing 10.04 release type to normal
[11:37] <soreau> NickyJ101: so you can't really upgrade to it
[11:37] <kdeuser^> TheKiller23, yes, check about be in preferences
[11:37] <pengxiang> 呵呵
[11:37] <TheKiller23> ok , thanks , i'll check
[11:37] <kdeuser^> TheKiller23, you can also yse chfn from the terminal
[11:37] <omani> I have this little problem with the user, who can not shutdown the system. syslog says: "Oct 10 12:36:03 hostname gnome-session[1633]: WARNING: Unable to stop system: Not Authorized" any ideas on this?
[11:37] <Khanz> @Xeno__ Once its installed its there take the disk out and there will be a boot manager showing witch OS you want.
[11:37] <NickyJ101> soreau: makes sense, downloading it now either way, even an old 1.6GHz Pentium M is 10.10
[11:37] <TheKiller23> what commend ? im a newbie ermm
[11:38] <Xeno__> So after i boot it from the disk thats pretty much the only time i have to use the disk?
[11:38] <kdeuser^> omani, he doesnt have permission to shutdown. Did he login from gdm ?
[11:38] <oman> but if i download iso can i upgrade from it  (not FRESH)
[11:38] <NickyJ101> Download is crawling, ISO downloaded at 3MB/s, update manager at 298KB/s
[11:38] <Khanz> @Xeno__ Yes for a full install on the PC.
[11:38] <omani> kdeuser^, he logged in from slim.
[11:39] <Khanz> @Xeno__ Or you can try using a virtual drive or usb if you dont want to burn some cd's
[11:39] <kdeuser^> omani, thats why
[11:39] <Xeno__> I have a DVD+R
[11:39] <omani> kdeuser^, so what is the solution?
[11:39] <Khanz> @Xeno__ I recommend wubi if your not using CD's
[11:39] <kdeuser^> omani, the login managers provide permission to shutdown, reboot as a normal user
[11:39] <Khanz> @Xeno__ It runs in xp and installs it.
[11:39] <Xeno__> o_O it RUNS in XP?
[11:39] <Xeno__> Wow
[11:39] <soreau> NickyJ101: It will get faster as the bits become more populated
[11:40] <tensorpudding> Xeno__: It doesn't run in XP, in the sense of running them both at the same time
[11:40] <Khanz> @Xeno__ No.
[11:40] <tensorpudding> Xeno__: it boots from inside the XP install
[11:40] <kdeuser^> omani,  I am not sure.. never used the slim login menager
[11:40] <Xeno__> AHH
[11:40] <NickyJ101> soreau: yeah, just annoyed. My laptop crashed on friday, had to install from 8.04.4 (don't ask why 10.04 LiveCD failed) so third update in two days :D LOL
[11:40] <oman> help please, cant fetch upgrade
[11:40] <Xeno__> So i heard something like i have to pick "Dont use all heard drive" or something like that
[11:40] <tensorpudding> Wubi means that all of the Ubuntu files are included virtually in Windows, so you have no risks or pains with repartitioning
[11:40] <ubuntu> i am writing this from within ubuntu 10.10 :D
[11:40] <Matthes_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9946844#post9946844 idas what i can do?
[11:40] <NickyJ101> oman: how you trying? torrent or update manager
[11:41] <oman> update man
[11:41] <Khanz> @Xeno__ Yes. If you dont want it as your main OS. And What is your HDD size?
[11:41] <soreau> NickyJ101: 3rd time's a charm, right? :)
[11:41] <NickyJ101> oman: open terminal, type in update-manager -d
[11:41] <Xeno__> Currently?
[11:41] <Xeno__> Let me check
[11:41] <sidewalk> apt-get dist-upgrade works to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 or?
[11:41] <dlm> hello Maverick (stable) is now avaible for download
[11:41] <NickyJ101> oman: 10.04 looks for LTS release, which this aint
[11:41] <kdeuser^> The good way to avoid this is by updating to ubuntu when the RC releases
[11:41] <ubuntu> hm... my nick is ubuntu lol now everytime someone writes ubuntu it lights up
[11:41] <oman> i changed it to normal before..
[11:41] <Xeno__> 7.10 GB - -would you recommend i delete some unused files?
[11:41] <Xeno__> Thats my C: Dribe
[11:41] <NickyJ101> sidewalk: update-manager -d also works
[11:41] <TheKiller23> kdeuser^  , worked , thanks alot , cheers
[11:41] <kdeuser^> and the you can install updates which is a small download and usually very few changes
[11:41] <Xeno__> Drive**
[11:42] <sidewalk> NickyJ101: tnx
[11:42] <rcsheets> i'm trying to get the 10.10 x64 server iso but i get "[03:39:30] rejected by tracker - Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."
[11:42] <Khanz> @Xeno__ Is that all the space you have available?
[11:42] <sidewalk> p00f
[11:42] <tensorpudding> 7.10 GB is enough for a minimal Ubuntu desktop install
[11:42] <kdeuser^> TheKiller23, no problem !
[11:42] <NickyJ101> oman: yeah some places have it, easier to tell it to get RC, which is now R
[11:42] <sinedio> wil installing a kernel from the backports ppa give me the option to boot older kernels in case something does not work as it should ?
[11:42] <Xeno__> In my C:Drive yes -- but i CAN delete some files
[11:42] <Xeno__> That is my  Storage Space
[11:42] <Xeno__> 7.10Gigs
[11:42] <joseCarlos> I need HELP!! I have to make a massive Ubuntu CD Request... do you know where can I do it?
[11:42] <vivien_m> How can I check that a mirror has been updated (and not only contains the RC version)?
[11:42] <ovy> lol i just started installing xchat and i already had a crash report
[11:42] <omani> kdeuser^, I have no option to set in the slim.conf. thx anyway
[11:42] <oman> YEEEY!! :DD
[11:42] <Xeno__> out of 140GB or something like that
[11:42] <Khanz> @Xeno__ Oh.
[11:42] <Xeno__> i only have 8
[11:42] <oman> omg
[11:42] <NickyJ101> sidewalk: other method is to change update manager settings to accept normal releases, not just LTS releases (10.04 default)
[11:42] <Xeno__> 7**
[11:42] <AbhiJit> !10.10
[11:43] <Khanz> @Xeno__ so you have 7gb Left?
[11:43] <NickyJ101> oamn: working?
[11:43] <oman> something   3rd party sources disabled, enable after upgrade..
[11:43] <Xeno__> Yes
[11:43] <prabhu> hi iam using ubuntu10.04 i cant open some websites in my browser even i change the browser but i cant open , sites like www.granneman.com , hackforum.in
[11:43] <NickyJ101> oman: working?
[11:43] <soreau> joseCarlos: How many do you need exactly?
[11:43] <kdeuser^> omani, Check this http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SLiM. Its not ubuntu but worth reading
[11:43] <Khanz> @Xeno_ I recommend cleaning and defrag. It.
[11:43] <Xeno__> -_-**
[11:43] <joseCarlos> Yes, but I need the official CD
[11:43] <NickyJ101> oman: ignore it, will sort itself out after update
[11:43] <GregValheru> tech q: i'm lookin @my sys monitor window, and under memory usage i see XXX MiB of 3.9 GiB, now i'm wondering is 32-bit ubuntu able to address all 4gb of my ram or is only 64-bit version able to do that?
[11:43] <c3l> Khanz: how do you defrag ext4?
[11:43] <oman> ok thanks everybody!! i will tell you later if it works!
[11:44] <Xeno__> Okay, as a VOTE right now, who thinks i should use a CD or use Wubi -- and BTW is Wubi fixed?
[11:44] <NickyJ101> GragValheru: no, but some os's can use up to 4GB
[11:44] <joseCarlos> I need HELP!! I have to make a massive Ubuntu CD Request... do you know where can I do it? I need it in the official box (its for the University)
[11:44] <oman> .....i use virtualbox... but wubi is ok
[11:44] <NickyJ101> GregValheru: some os's can use 4GB, just not more
[11:44] <soreau> Xeno__: Always install to the hdd as a first option. If all else fails, then install the slower wubi
[11:44] <c3l> Xeno__: cd is ofc the recommended way. wubi migh be best if your new to linux and still want to do it all via windows
[11:44] <AbhiJit> joseCarlos, in canonical web site
[11:44] <NickyJ101> joseCarlos: here's a help (GOOGLE) type in Ubuntu CD request
[11:44] <Khanz> @Xeno__ Wubi, Is good. If you want to give it a try
[11:45] <oman> so bye now
[11:45] <Xeno__> ALRIGHT
[11:45] <Xeno__> So
[11:45] <NickyJ101> oamn: bye, and happy 10.10.10
[11:45] <Xeno__> Is Wubi fixed?
[11:45] <Xeno__> I heard it caused problems
[11:45] <joseCarlos> I know, but I only can find the ONLY ONE cd request
[11:45] <GregValheru> Nicky, i know some OS's are able to do that, I'm specifically asking about ubuntu 32-bit version.
[11:45] <Xeno__> Someone told me NOT to use Wubi a while back
[11:45] <Lcawte> 10.10 is out now right?
[11:45] <Khanz> Yeap
[11:45] <danee> yeah
[11:45] <AbhiJit> Lcawte, read the channel topic
[11:45] <prabhu> hi iam using ubuntu10.04 i cant open some websites in my browser even i change the browser but i cant one sites like www.granneman.com
[11:45] <Xeno__> Guys D:
[11:46] <Guest25203> morning all, I have a problem where as soon as I click the login button in 10.04 I just get a blank screen. I can use ctrl-alt-f2 to get a term and have noticed that I don't have an xorg.conf, :(  Is it possible to generate one?
[11:46] <Khanz> @Xeno__ It should be fixed nwo
[11:46] <NickyJ101> GregValheru: I think most os's (32-bit) can get it if they are modern, most can see 4GB, some only 3.5GB. I know Win7 32-bit can sometimes use all 4GB
[11:46] <kashel> please help i speak russian  but #ubuntu-ru not loaded
[11:46] <vivien_m> I got the answer to my question. The state of the servers is here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors but I am not sure how reliable it is
[11:46] <Khanz> now*
[11:46] <Xeno__> Alright lets hope -- BTW i made recovery discs a while ago
[11:46] <erUSUL> !ru | kashel
[11:46] <NickyJ101> kashel: you trying to get 10.10?
[11:46] <Lcawte> AbhiJit: the topic confuses me, it says maverick is not out yet, but the mailing list says it is
[11:46] <plasmasolutions> Hi@all: How do I manage to let the gnome-panel start at login without using the "programs at startup" app?
[11:46] <kashel> russian chanel IRC ?
[11:46] <plasmasolutions> It's not starting since lucid
[11:46] <Khanz>  Ubuntu 10.10 is OUT
[11:47] <rcsheets> yeah the topic is wrong i think
[11:47] <kdeuser^> Perfect on 10.10.10 nice
[11:47] <rcsheets> someone should fix that
[11:47] <NickyJ101> Those trying to update by update manager code is update-manager -d
[11:47] <ovy> Khanz, yeeey i'm installing it in this very moment
[11:47] <kashel> ubottu etot chat nerobotajet
[11:47] <tensorpudding> prabhu: what sites are blocked
[11:47] <NickyJ101> is there a link to find the status of hosting servers?
[11:47] <erUSUL> kashel: #ubuntu-ru
[11:47] <Matthes_> I have problem getting rid of a broken dependencie http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591977
[11:48] <Guest25203> can ubu10.10 be installed from the terminal? maybe that will help with my problem..
[11:48] <spydon> Is there a problem with the torrent tracker?
[11:48] <Xeno__> If i made Recovery discs for XP and something were to happen such as Important files being deleted would my Recov. Discs install my whole OS?
[11:48] <rcsheets> spydon: it seems to me as if there is. i keep getting "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."
[11:48] <burg> hello. i want to download ubuntu 10.10 and i see on the download page that 32bit version is recommended. why is that and how it`s better than 64bit version?
[11:48] <spydon> rcsheets, same here
[11:48] <akashv> "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker." <-- i'm getting that when i try to download 10.10 through transmission
[11:48] <travkin> akashv, just wait
[11:48] <erUSUL> Xeno__: ask a windows channel
[11:48] <Xeno__> alright
[11:48] <akashv> travkin: how long?
[11:49] <Khanz> @burg if you have lots of ram say 3gb+ 64bit is recommended to give you full potential on it.
[11:49] <NickyJ101> Xeno_: Recovery disks can help, but not always. Just back up your documents if your ever unsure
[11:49] <george__> akashv: some hours
[11:49] <rcsheets> akashv: i'm successfully downloading using utorrent from my desktop at home, but getting that error from a server out in the internets.
[11:49] <akashv> ok
[11:49] <danee> 64-bit only makes problems.
[11:49] <b0tz> guys, in a few minutes burnbit will have the ubuntu 10.10 iso burned, and you can download from p2p and webseeds like that
[11:49] <NickyJ101> danee: 64-bit usually does
[11:49] <burg> Khanz, i have intel core2duo 2ghz and 3gb ram ddr2. what do you think it`s better for me? 32bit or 64bit?
[11:49] <AceKing> rcsheets, do you have a link for the torrent?
[11:49] <rcsheets> akashv: i wonder if it could be a tracker load thing
[11:49] <prabhu> tensorpudding:www.granneman.com,www.hackforum.in ,www.scribd.com etc..
[11:50] <Guest25203> Q: How do recreate the xorg.conf file, I don't have one and only get a blank screen? anyone know?
[11:50] <plasmasolutions> >>> Does anyone knows a solution to the problem of not starting gnome-panel automatically?
[11:50] <NickyJ101> burg: stay 32-bit, otherwise you will enjoy having flash problems
[11:50] <Xeno__> can someone give me a Winfows channel please -_-**
[11:50] <tensorpudding> prabhu: and how do you know they're blocked? do you get timeouts?
[11:50] <Xeno__> comp going slow
[11:50] <danee> go 4 32-bit
[11:50] <rcsheets> AceKing: the torrent i am using came from http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/ubuntu-10.10-server-amd64.iso.torrent
[11:50] <Khanz> @burg I have the same stats I recommend 64bit if your using it on your current OS be it windows. As mine can handle 64bit. If you are advanced at ubuntu well you can be 64bit
[11:50] <kashel> please help for russian chanel
[11:50] <magnetron> Guest25203: usually you don't need one
[11:50] <c3l> Xeno__: ##windows
[11:50] <WXZ> software centre vs synaptic package manager
[11:50] <kdeuser^> Guest25203, Xorg --configure should do it or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:50] <WXZ> any reason to prefer one over the other?
[11:50] <maurer_1> NickyJ101: Not true. There is now a native 64-bit flash again, just not packaged.
[11:50] <kashel> #ubuntu-ru not loaded
[11:51] <akashv> rcsheets: the http download is working, p2p isn't..... whats the use of p2p if the tracker also overloads?
[11:51] <AceKing> rcsheets, thanks, is there one for the 32 bit version?
[11:51] <tensorpudding> kashel: works for me
[11:51] <prabhu> tensorpudding:ya its just loading for long time
[11:51] <c3l> WXZ: different frontends to the same backend, chose the one you like
[11:51] <Guest25203> kdeuser^: that doesnt do anything unfortunately
[11:51] <tensorpudding> kashel: are you sure you're doing it right?
[11:51] <NickyJ101> WXZ: how technical do you want to be, more listed in synaptic, but software just easier
[11:51] <tensorpudding> prabhu: are you sure that you're not being blocked by a firewall or something?
[11:51] <WXZ> ok.
[11:51] <tensorpudding> prabhu: try querying the dns entries for those hosts using dig
[11:51] <WXZ> nothing to worry about then
[11:51] <Zain_> Grats
[11:51] <kdeuser^> Guest25203, it creates a xorg.conf file in your home directory. you need to copy it to /etc/X11
[11:51] <NickyJ101> WXZ: nope
[11:52] <sniperjo_> has anyone got any experience with olsrd?
[11:52] <prabhu> tensorpudding:how to fine the firewall config
[11:52] <ovy> "Sorry the program "update-apt-xpian-index" closed unexpectedly.. what does this mean?
[11:52] <Zain_> Grats On Ubuntu 10.01
[11:52] <shadi> hi guys
[11:52] <Xeno__> How much Free Space would you recommend i have for installing ubuntu?
[11:52] <Zain_> Grats On Ubuntu 10.10...
[11:52] <NickyJ101> Update manager about 1/3 way through getting new packages
[11:53] <tensorpudding> prabhu: if you never configured one on your machine, you don't have one there. your workplace, ISP or country might filter HTTP though
[11:53] <Khanz> @Xeno__ 15-30gb if your keen on using it.
[11:53] <ovy> Sorry the program "update-apt-xpian-index" closed unexpectedly.. what does it mean?
[11:53] <plasmasolutions> >>> Does anyone knows a solution to the problem of not starting gnome-panel automatically? (BTW... I'm on Maverick and it's very good-as usual) :)
[11:53] <Zain_> Grats On Ubuntu 10.10... xd
[11:53]  * Zain_ go and download
[11:53] <shadi> I have been looking for a messanger to chat at but I didnt find one I heard about gyachi who knows about it?
[11:53] <NickyJ101> Xeno_: about 20GB, if you want media then go bigger
[11:53] <tensorpudding> kashel: try again with /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:53] <Guest25203> kdeuser^: ty
[11:54] <rcsheets> Zain_: you may want #ubuntu-release-party
[11:54] <AceKing> rcsheets, I found it
[11:54] <NickyJ101> Xeno_: Remember Ubuntu can read Windows Partition, but not other way
[11:54] <kdeuser^> shadi, pidgin and epmathy are good
[11:54] <prabhu> tensorpudding:but i can open that in windows machine
[11:55] <simpleblue> waits and then waits again..
[11:55] <ovy> #ubuntu-release-party :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[11:55] <shadi> kdeuser: pidign isnt working with me I dont know why
[11:55] <Guest74990> Maverick torrents re not working... get message "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker"
[11:55] <Tdude> Hi guys
[11:55] <ExtremeDevilz> anyone know what is new in the new 10.10
[11:55] <MohammadAG51> topic needs an update
[11:55] <rcsheets> Guest74990: in my experience the problem is intermittent. i'd suggest you keep trying.
[11:55] <Tdude> Anyone know a good guide for getting an ubuntu installation on an USB stick?
[11:55] <mattcodes> jedit or scite? any experience?
[11:55]  * MohammadAG51 pokes ops
[11:55] <kdeuser^> ExtremeDevilz, check the release notes on the website
[11:56] <shadi> محمد كيف حالك؟
[11:56] <ovy> ExtremeDevilz, the installer is new, i'm installing it right now
[11:56] <Guest74990> will do rcsheets, cheers
[11:56] <bazhang> !notes > ExtremeDevilz
[11:56] <Tdude> Going to install it on my netbook in a few days and it does not have a CD reader
[11:56] <NickyJ101> ExtremeDevilz: not much, was going to have new GNOME, otherwise is a bit slicker, not as big as 10.04
[11:56] <c3l> Guest74990: yeah, thats because the tracker got overloaded or similar. your client should pick up on DHT soon. I know transmission will find peers via DHT without tinkering with your settings
[11:56] <sniperjo_> does OLSR does not pass on the data packets itself, it only tells the operating system kernel to route accordingly. means the packets do get forwarded right ?
[11:56] <Khanz> @Tdude does it have a usb port?
[11:56] <tensorpudding> !ar | shadi
[11:57] <tensorpudding> !arabic | shadi
[11:57]  * plasmasolutions looks sad because noone is paying attention to his problem
[11:57] <Khanz> !english
[11:57] <ehsan> Hi my friends
[11:57] <ehsan> I want to upgrade from ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10
[11:57] <ASA> mit was laedt man die isos ueber torrent?
[11:58] <Tdude> Khanz yeah it does have USB ports
[11:58] <rcsheets> ikonia: thanks.
[11:58] <ASA> transmission meckert
[11:58] <Khanz> @Tdude burn the iso to usb
[11:58] <ehsan> and I did the instructions which said in ubuntu site
[11:58] <tensorpudding> ASA: #ubuntu-de bitte
[11:58] <NickyJ101> plasmasolutions: whats up?
[11:58] <uLinux> Ubuntu tracker is not working
[11:58] <Tdude> Ok sounds simple enough
[11:58] <Tdude> Thanks Khanz
[11:58] <ASA> tensorpudding, sorry, wrong chan :)
[11:59] <ehsan> and run update-manager and click on check button to check and download and install updades
[11:59] <Khanz> @Tdude no problem there is a guide on how to do it on a mac/windows/ubuntu
[11:59] <ehsan> It find some updates and downloaded them and install them
[11:59] <NickyJ101> ehsan: in update manager, go to settings and change update type to normal, not LTS
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> be sure to check that box  that lets you upgrade to non lts releases
[11:59] <Tdude> Cool,, I'm really excited
[11:59] <ehsan> but It didn't nofity me to upgrade to new version
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> I bet that will be a Top 10 faq this week..
[12:00] <Tdude> Anyone know how big thew USB stick needs to be?
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> ehsan:  select normal. and it should..
[12:00] <NickyJ101> ehsan: did you change the update type settings?
[12:00] <Khanz> @Tdude 1gb
[12:00] <ovy> is it me or the.. scroll bars are now thinner?
[12:00] <GregValheru> those who don't see the 10.10 option in upgrade manager: click settings button, then in the 'Release upgrade' drop-down list select - 'normal releases'. Close the settings window and click 'check' button again
[12:00] <ehsan> yes I do it.
[12:00] <NickyJ101> ehsan: it will only check once every 24hrs by itself
[12:00] <b0tz> ubuntu 10.10 64 bit torrent + webseed link http://burnbit.com/torrent/156840/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_amd64_iso
[12:00] <Kira> Why does Canonical still not promote BitTorrent as the main method of distribution?
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> !torrents
[12:01] <NickyJ101> ehsan: ok, did you click on check for updates and still nothing?
[12:01] <ehsan> but it didn't do it
[12:01] <danee> <3 Ubuntu
[12:01] <ehsan> Nickyj101: yes I did it
[12:01] <NickyJ101> ehsan: ok, go to terminal and type in update-manager -d
[12:02] <NickyJ101> ehsan: will force it to look for newest version, 10.10 is only new one as no beta of 11.04 yet
[12:02] <tensorpudding> Kira: probably because bittorrent has negative associations for many people, because it's less direct than getting it from ubuntu themselves, and because it would require them to download another application
[12:02] <Khanz> this upgrade for my vps is taking forever.
[12:02] <c3l> Kira: maybe they have fat servers :) downloading from server is also easier, they value simplicity I guess
[12:02] <rcsheets> Dr_Willis: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/maverick/server/ubuntu-10.10-server-amd64.iso.torrent is a 404 not found
[12:02] <lsrline> when I go to the terminal and type update-manager -d the release notes still say release candidate... is that right... is the upgrade not ready yet?
[12:02] <ehsan> NickyJ101: I'd just to it but it didn't find anything
[12:02] <Khanz> @rcsheets http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/10.10/ubuntu-10.10-rc-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[12:02] <omani> kdeuser^, got it. it was the changing of "exec gnome-session"  to "exec ck-launch-session gnome-session" in user's .xinitrc
[12:02] <omani> now it works
[12:03] <NickyJ101> lsrline: firstly try opening update manager, clicking on settings and changing type from LTS to normal
[12:03] <tensorpudding> also bittorrent might be filtered by their net policy
[12:03] <c3l> tensorpudding: no
[12:03] <NickyJ101> ehsan: hmmm, seems odd.
[12:03] <uLinux> ubottu: torrent links not working lol
[12:04] <c3l> tensorpudding: but yes, downloading from server is more straight forward, and afaik they value simplicity.
[12:04] <lsrline> NickyJ101, thanks did the trick
[12:04] <cablop> !chinese
[12:04] <Khanz> !Korean
[12:05] <tensorpudding> c3l: my points boil down to a combination of simplicity and bittorrent having a negative image
[12:05] <Khanz> !American
[12:05] <NickyJ101> ehsan: ok, you may need to download the alternate install cd and do an update that way (no cd needed, just the iso) does the same thing
[12:05] <ubuntu-user-b2> !Romanian
[12:05] <ehsan> NickyJ101: Should we change the repositories to Maverick?
[12:05] <NickyJ101> ehsan: you could give that a go
[12:05] <Khanz> @now England
[12:05] <Khanz> @now GMT
[12:05] <cablop> lol
[12:05] <tensorpudding> also bittorrent is sometimes QoS-ed to hell on networks as a preventative measure
[12:05] <MarkusH> http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[12:05] <NickyJ101> @now GMT+1
[12:05] <MarkusH> http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[12:06] <MarkusH> these links worked for me
[12:06] <cablop> mmm
[12:06] <c3l> tensorpudding: they're still providing the torrents for download. I dont really think torrents 'bad image' has much to do with it. its all clear that ubuntu is free and legal.. but who knows how theyre thinking
[12:06] <NickyJ101> Khanz: for bots, do GMT-1 (BST they dont get it LOL)
[12:06] <ehsan> NickyJ101: how upgrade from ISO?
[12:06] <tsimpson> !upgrade
[12:06] <Khanz> @now GMT-1
[12:06] <tensorpudding> c3l: there's a big difference between "it's available" and "it's the default"
[12:06] <tsimpson> NickyJ101: UK is in +1 not -1
[12:07] <NickyJ101> ehsan: get the alternate iso, then you mount it and it can read its iso, will find the link, hold on
[12:07] <cablop> i need a help with chinese... i need an input method for chinese, but pyu and tonepy are not predictive... and don't predict whole words... i'm not that fluent in chinese to ask for it in chinese channel, so any help is appreciated
[12:07] <b0tz> guys
[12:07] <NickyJ101> tsimpson: try doing GMT+1, wrong time for some reason as i just did it
[12:07] <b0tz> http://burnbit.com/torrent/156841/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_i386_iso
[12:07] <b0tz> uses webseed + p2p
[12:07] <b0tz> will be guarenteed fast dl
[12:07] <NickyJ101> tsimpson: i know it is really +1, but for some reason this bot doesn't get that
[12:08] <uLinux> b0tz: pls give the tracker linkg
[12:08] <tsimpson> @now Europe/London
[12:08] <uLinux> b0tz: tracker link so i can edit my torrent
[12:08] <tsimpson> NickyJ101: probably the UTC offset is broken in python
[12:09] <uLinux> like this http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce
[12:09] <ehsan> NickyJ101: Do you mean alternate iso the same ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso?
[12:09] <sanu01> guys i just bought a 2 terabyte external hard disk. I want to partition it using a linux filesystem. Am thinking is it better to use ext3 or ext4?
[12:09] <b0tz> http://burnbit.com/torrent/156841/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_i386_iso
[12:09] <Matthes_> I need help fixing a broken dependency
[12:09] <b0tz> 32 bit
[12:10] <Matthes_> hhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591977
[12:10] <b0tz> ubuntu 10.10 64 bit torrent + webseed link http://burnbit.com/torrent/156840/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_amd64_iso
[12:10] <b0tz> 64 bit
[12:10] <b0tz> ulinux
[12:10] <NickyJ101> ehsan: not the same, there should be an alternate install cd version
[12:10] <sanu01> i know the differeces between the systems but i need to know whats optimal variant for a external disk
[12:10] <b0tz> http://tracker.burnbit.com:6969/announce
[12:10] <sanu01> or maybe xfs?
[12:10] <b0tz> make sure the info_hash is the same
[12:10] <uLinux> b0tz: tks
[12:10] <Khanz> !torrents
[12:10] <b0tz> np, enjoy and use burnbit again
[12:11] <NickyJ101> ehsan: here the release page for Maverick http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/
[12:11] <NickyJ101> ehsan: get the alternate version
[12:11] <leila1> hi. i want to configure exclusion ip on dhcp but i dont find any link for start my jon. plz heml me
[12:11] <uLinux> oh b0tz :( unregistered torrent
[12:11] <g0tcha> what is maverick?
[12:11] <NickyJ101> ehsan: then follow this page (about halfway down the page) http://hubpages.com/hub/Ubuntu-Offline-Upgrade
[12:11] <Laibeus_Lord> just a heads-up, I'm getting this on the netbook .metalink "Name resolution for ipv6.torrent.ubuntu.com failed:DNS server returned answer with no data"
[12:11] <uLinux> wait
[12:12] <b0tz> o.o
[12:12] <b0tz> huh
[12:12] <g0tcha> i donwloaded 10.10 from the site at full speed
[12:12] <g0tcha> why would you wanna use torrents?
[12:12] <NickyJ101> g0tcha: its the new Ubuntu version name, last one was Lucid Lynx, this is Maverick Meercat
[12:12] <g0tcha> NickyJ101, ah cool
[12:12] <danee> the servers are working well today
[12:12] <erUSUL> g0tcha: to save the ones giving you an entire operating system for free some money in bandwith ?
[12:12] <NickyJ101> g0tcha: because servers get overloaded and also because when enough get it it can be quicker
[12:12] <b0tz> FAST P2P BASED AND WEBSEED POWERED TORRENT: 32 BIT 10.10 http://burnbit.com/torrent/156841/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_i386_iso
[12:12] <ehsan> NickyJ101:Thanks a lot
[12:13] <NickyJ101> g0tcha: server was 2MB/s, from torrent about 4MB/s
[12:13] <ikonia> b0tz: calm down, stop spamming that link
[12:13] <g0tcha> yeah my full speed is 2MB/s =p
[12:13]  * erUSUL people can be selfish
[12:13] <pause> im having some trouble with my sound (running 10.04 netbook remix) and im constantly hearing a static sound from the speaker/headphones even though my sound is muted, any clues?
[12:13] <sacarlson> leila1:  you already edited /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf and what to know how to restart it?   look in /etc/init.d/ for dh*
[12:13] <NickyJ101> pause: how old your pc, some old pc's have this issue (like mine)
[12:14] <Friar> I'm getting very poor performance out of my torrent for 10.10 and I'm wondering if someone could help me out.
[12:14] <ExtremeDevilz> is it possible to install ubuntu 10.10 from my PSP ?
[12:14] <ikonia> Friar: it's just slow at the moment
[12:14] <ikonia> ExtremeDevilz: no
[12:14] <ExtremeDevilz> why not
[12:14] <leila1> sacarlson: i dont know how configre it. i dont have any useful link
[12:14] <b0tz> ikonia, im only trying to help
[12:14] <NickyJ101> Friar: try switching to one more popular, or wait until more people get it and host
[12:14] <b0tz> damn
[12:14] <ikonia> ExtremeDevilz: because it's a playstation portible
[12:14] <ikonia> b0tz: please don't spam the link
[12:14] <pause>  NickyJ101: its not that old a rather new emachine 10.1"
[12:14] <ExtremeDevilz> I want to use it as a USB to install
[12:14] <b0tz> im not spamming if i was spamming the chan would be full of the link
[12:14] <ikonia> ExtremeDevilz: if it's recognised as a usb device then try it
[12:14] <Friar> ikonia, how slow is slow/ i'm at 70 kB/s down....
[12:14] <Laibeus_Lord> If your downloader can understand .metalink and can download from .torrent and direct-download, then use it.
[12:14] <b0tz> i am simply repeating random intervals
[12:15] <ExtremeDevilz> it dpes
[12:15] <Khanz> @ExtremeDevilz You can use the memory card if it has 700mb+ of space
[12:15] <sacarlson> leila1: exclusive meaning that mac will have the same address each time dhcp is queried?
[12:15] <ExtremeDevilz> yeah I have 2GB memory
[12:15] <ikonia> b0tz: you've said it multiple times and your advertising it with CAPTIAL LETTERS, stop it
[12:15] <NickyJ101> pause: I know some do, im not sure if you can do anything about it, did it have it with a previous version? cause then it might be alsa over sampling
[12:15] <Khanz> @ExtremeDevilz It'l Work
[12:15] <ExtremeDevilz> so just normal transfer
[12:15] <Khanz> why not use wubi?
[12:15] <Laibeus_Lord> I use aria2c as downloader. Then use .metalink. That way parts I got from direct-download also gets seeded on the torrent.
[12:15] <ExtremeDevilz> or I need universal USB installer
[12:16] <g0tcha> hmm new ubuntu copies files and stuff while setting up th elanguage and adding the new user and so on?
[12:16] <g0tcha> thats kinda cool
[12:16] <ExtremeDevilz> or I need universal USB installer??
[12:16] <NickyJ101> ExtremeDevilz: you eill need to extract onto USB or use wubi to create it
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> g0tcha:  it starts installing.. then asks quetions. :)
[12:16] <Khanz> Yes
[12:16] <pause> NickyJ101: i installed this version from the "bottom" no upgrade or anything just a complete wipe
[12:16] <Khanz> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce
[12:16] <Khanz> http://ipv6.torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce
[12:16] <ExtremeDevilz> wubi
[12:16] <Khanz> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer.exe
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> ExtremeDevilz:  wubi is for installing ubuntu 'inside' windows. I dont reccomend wubi.
[12:17] <g0tcha> Dr_Willis, thats very nice
[12:17] <leila1> sacarlson: no. exclusion means: a range ip of ip scoe can not allocated by machine with dhcp (that range are reserved to allocated it manulally or dont allocated0
[12:17] <NickyJ101> pause: ok, from experience it is not fixable unless you downgrade, but no support, look for a driver for your audio card, that might help alsa
[12:17] <sniperjo_> how can i test if packet routing is working?
[12:17] <ExtremeDevilz> I want to install from my PSP
[12:17] <skep> hey, I can't boot my computer, I tried with a old ubuntu live cd so see if it's a software or hardware problem... it seems to be hardware sine the live cd won't boot either, could someone help me and see if there's something to interpret from this: http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9125/img20101010125830.jpg
[12:17] <ikonia> ExtremeDevilz: try it then
[12:17] <pause> NickyJ101: thx
[12:17] <Khanz> @ExtremeDevilz: Use http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer.exe to instal lit to your psp
[12:17] <ExtremeDevilz> need install USB Flash Driver
[12:17] <NickyJ101> ExtremeDevilz: ?? you want to install onto your USB, Khanz has link i was about to post
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> ExtremeDevilz:  Huh? theres numrous ways to make a 'usb installer' from the iso files..
[12:18] <ExtremeDevilz> kk guys
[12:18] <skep> anyone?
[12:18] <chilli0> Hello , when does the full release of 10.10 come out?
[12:18] <ikonia> chilli0: it's out now
[12:18] <Khanz> !release
[12:18] <Khanz> !latest
[12:18] <chilli0> ikonia, Torrent availbe?
[12:18] <zork> update-manager is still not showing new release for me :(
[12:18] <ikonia> chilli0: yup
[12:19] <chilli0> ikonia, Wicked , thanks.
[12:19] <erUSUL> !torrents > chilli0
[12:19] <Khanz> !torernts > Khanz
[12:19] <skep> http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9125/img20101010125830.jpg    heeelp!
[12:19] <chrissharp123> zork: you can download the iso and reinstall (just move your /home to an external drive and move it back after the install)
[12:19] <Khanz> !torrents > Khanz
[12:20] <ExtremeDevilz> wtf
[12:20] <chid> hey does anyone know how well GMA500 works on 10.10
[12:20] <chid> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/#Drivers%20installation
[12:20] <Low_enduser> !torrents > Low_enduser
[12:20] <chid> seems to indicate that it's not that good :)
[12:20] <ExtremeDevilz> Universal dont have Ubuntu 10.10 link
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> ExtremeDevilz:  10.10 came out TODAY... so
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> ExtremeDevilz:  you can always download the iso, then point the tool to it.
[12:20] <NickyJ101> skep: how old ur pc?
[12:21] <skep> pretty new
[12:21] <NickyJ101> skep: did you download before official release or after the official release (and when available not official release)
[12:21] <skep> motherboard, memory, psu are the oldest, maybe 1,5 years
[12:21] <WXZ> why aren't partitions numbered chronologically?
[12:22] <WXZ> I have partition #1 and #5 for some reason, but no 2, 3, or 4
[12:22] <Khanz> @WXZ Arent they named?
[12:22] <Gadwil-Office> Anyone know of the Torrents have gone live yet?  I have them in my que but no Seeds or Peers.
[12:22] <skep> NickyJ101: I'm actually running windows, but to figure out if it's a software or hardware problem I tried an old ubuntu live cd
[12:22] <saiyo> test
[12:22] <erUSUL> WXZ: 5 is a logical partition inside an extended one
[12:22] <NickyJ101> WXZ: so it easier to add more later
[12:22] <moetunes> WXZ:  sounds like you have an extended partition with those in it
[12:22] <WXZ> so if it wasn't an extended partition
[12:22] <arif-ali> Hi, I have been using preseed for 9.10, 10.04. which worked fine, but the same preseed hasn't quite worked in 10.10. the installer asks me for a mirror, does anyone have any ideas?
[12:22] <skep> and that came up, so it's a hardware problem, so I just want to know if u can see what hardware
[12:22] <g0tcha> hmm tried to installed it on a vm right now before i upgrade to 10.10 and its froozen on the "syste is going down for reboot NOW!" after the installation
[12:22] <WXZ> if I had none extended
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> WXZ:  time to check out the wiki pages on 'disk partitions' 1-4 = primaries, 5+ can be logicals in an extended.
[12:22] <Laibeus_Lord> Gadwil-Office, it is up
[12:22] <NickyJ101> skep: ok, try that, are you trying to get 32-bit of 64-bit
[12:23] <WXZ> no, I get it Dr_Willis
[12:23] <erUSUL> WXZ: 1 2 3 4 are reserved for primary/extended partitions 5-n for logical ones
[12:23] <WXZ> you can only have 4 primary yada yada
[12:23] <skep> NickyJ101: that screen is of a ubuntu 7 live cd
[12:23] <ExtremeDevilz> you guys are on Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[12:23] <Gadwil-Office> Thanks laibeus, Now to figure out why I can't get it.
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> WXZ:   dont forget that with Grub numbnering some times it starts counting at 0 :)
[12:23] <NickyJ101> skep: right, not too sure, can that computer load any other os?
[12:23] <skep> NickyJ101: im just trying to figure out if it's the graphic card, or memory cards, or motherboard and so on
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> ExtremeDevilz:  many of us are.
[12:23] <skep> NickyJ101: nope
[12:23] <ExtremeDevilz> are you a developer dr ?
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> ExtremeDevilz:  No.
[12:24] <Gadwil-Office> Force starting the 32bit version worked, but 64 still won't work.
[12:24] <zebrac> not all, i stick with lucid we're trying to install the new release
[12:24] <Laibeus_Lord> Gadwil-Office, try to get the .metalink file and use a downloader that can read it.  .metalink files pulls from torrent and direct-downloads (with seeding back to torrent if you're connected)
[12:24] <NickyJ101> skep: Not really too sure from that as I'm not a kernel developer and not really that good on boot codes, will send round though
[12:24] <dwarder> damn it, new version
[12:24] <dwarder> today?
[12:24] <dwarder> final?
[12:24] <Laibeus_Lord> yes dwarder
[12:25] <cablop> how to install a tar.gz in ubuntu? it is an ime, so i need for it to work nicely with ibux
[12:25] <dwarder> Laibeus_Lord: is it hard to upgrade?
[12:25] <cablop> ibus
[12:25] <NickyJ101> dwarder: yes Maverick Meerkat final release was launched today, your ubuntu updater should get it
[12:25] <skep> NickyJ101: thx a lot, maybe u know of someone I can talk to? that's good with boot codes?
[12:25] <fagan> wow 1539 people in here
[12:25] <NickyJ101> skep: not too sure, will have a look but no promises, type some of the codes into google for some help
[12:25] <Gadwil-Office> laibeus, I went and re-downloaded the torrent, now it is downloading fine.
[12:25] <Laibeus_Lord> dwarder, that I can not say. I always fresh install.  I back-up my files first before doing a fresh install
[12:25] <erUSUL> skep: you should do a bug report against the kernel and attach the image ( take a larger image that includes the full screen =
[12:26] <ssn> i keep the home partition
[12:26] <ssn> :D
[12:26] <NickyJ101> dwarder: tell me what method you want and I'll help you through it, not hard
[12:26] <Laibeus_Lord> Gadwil-Office, ah cool :D welcome to the seed
[12:26] <skep> erUSUL: how do you do a bug report against the kernel?
[12:26] <erUSUL> !bugs | skep
[12:26] <NickyJ101> sorry if i give slow responses, got about 20 or so private chats each with their own problems
[12:26] <uLinux> need to make backup of some config files ie SSH
[12:26] <Gadwil-Office> I am not stupid enough to use the FTP, it is alwasy super-slow on release weekends, plus torrents I can give back.
[12:26] <dwarder> NickyJ101: where can i see changelog?
[12:27] <dwarder> NickyJ101: should i upgrade?
[12:27] <erUSUL> !notes
[12:27] <NickyJ101> dwarder: depends, what version you on now?
[12:27] <ganeshran> if i close the upgrade while files are downloading, will it being from where it left off?
[12:27] <NickyJ101> ganeshran: are you doing through update manager?
[12:27] <sacarlson> leila1: can't you just make the ip range not a part of the range of  that you do pass out in dhcp?
[12:27] <b0tz> fast p2p and webseed based download for 10.10 -  32 BIT 10.10 http://burnbit.com/torrent/156841/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_i386_iso - 64bit http://burnbit.com/torrent/156840/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_amd64_iso
[12:28] <dwarder> NickyJ101: Linux Name 2.6.32-25-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 17 20:26:08 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:28] <ganeshran> NickyJ101: yes
[12:28] <Gadwil-Office> Thanks ubottu.
[12:28] <b0tz> ;p;
[12:28] <_kroson_> people what is utouch for?
[12:28] <b0tz> Ahahahah
[12:28] <b0tz> wrong person ikonia
[12:28] <b0tz> im just trying to help
[12:28] <Naznaz> ikonia, that was the wrong guy ;D
[12:28] <b0tz> just get off my back
[12:28] <george__> if i upgrade to maverick am i going to lose my settings and files?
[12:28] <ikonia> b0tz: I've told you to stop
[12:28] <NickyJ101> dwarder: that the kernal, not the actual version. The new is 10.10, what is yours, 10.4
[12:28] <chrissharp123> lucid should *not* prompt for upgrade automatically as far as I understand it
[12:28] <NickyJ101> ganeshran: you can't stop update manager once it has started
[12:29] <A-KO> So does Ubuntu have a regularly-scheduled security release timeframe? Or are security patches just released whenever? Is there a ML one could subscribe to? I don't usually check my server every single day so being notified when a security release is pushed would be nice.
[12:29] <Super_Roach> why?
[12:29] <ganeshran> NickyJ101: if i shut down my computer or net connection dies?
[12:29] <NickyJ101> ganeshran: if it is still downloading though, you can unplug from internet and it will just say fail, delete the download and start again
[12:29] <Super_Roach> (as in why won't lucid prompt for an auto update)
[12:29] <aeon-ltd> ganeshran: no, i highly don't reccommend shorting the update to prevent corruption of files
[12:29] <erUSUL> A-KO: security patches just released  whenever
[12:29] <NickyJ101> ganeshran: it will say failed and start all over again
[12:29] <neyo> hi guys, ever since i update my notebook through online updated from karmic to lucid, its very frequent that my window borders dosen't appear, sometimes they does and some times not
[12:29] <ganeshran> aeon-ltd: its actually not started yet. still downloadig the packages
[12:29] <zebrac> get your download in seattle http://d35x5jwfquk1wr.cloudfront.net/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-1386.iso
[12:29] <cablop> :(
[12:29] <dwarder> NickyJ101: You are using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - the Lucid Lynx - released in April 2010 and supported until April 2013.
[12:30] <ikonia> zebrac: please don't spam links randomlly
[12:30] <ganeshran> NickyJ101: bummer I need to go out for some work
[12:30] <cablop> how to port a package back to lucid?
[12:30] <ikonia> cablop: thats not a small task
[12:30] <fagan> Everyone in here should be tweeting to get ubuntu as a trending topic :)
[12:30] <NickyJ101> dwarder: yes, I do but what version are you on (updating later today to assist others with this)
[12:30] <george__> if i upgrade to maverick am i going to lose my settings and files?
[12:30] <erUSUL> cablop: from maverick ? ask the backports team?
[12:30] <dwarder> NickyJ101: i copied this :)
[12:30] <NickyJ101> ganeshran: leave it running???
[12:30] <dwarder> NickyJ101: from my help
[12:30] <aeon-ltd> george__: through what method?
[12:30] <dwarder> NickyJ101: so it is me :)
[12:30] <erUSUL> george__: no; if everything goes well
[12:31] <cablop> erUSUL: ah! thanks...
[12:31] <oCean> george__: backups are always a wise idea
[12:31] <abhifx> how can i change my computer's name?
[12:31] <NickyJ101> dwarder: oh right.... ok see. You can update, but 10.04 supports updates for a lot longer, if you get 10.10 you will need to do an update every so often, but update is worth it. Much more efficient
[12:31] <Khanz> !english
[12:31] <erUSUL> !hostname | abhifx
[12:32] <ganeshran> NickyJ101: my usual updates begin downloading packages from where they left off
[12:32] <ganeshran> NickyJ101: are the version upgrades different?
[12:32] <erUSUL> Khanz: please investigate with the bot in private. /msg ubottu factoid
[12:32] <cablop> erUSUL: it is an IME for chinese, so i'm unwilling to try to create it from scratch usint the chinese help and risking to mess my ibus... also not willing to move from the LTS... not yet
[12:32] <abhifx> erUSUL: thanks
[12:32] <zebrac> for those of you who wants to experiment.. don't make an upgrade... instead install it side by side with your old release so you can see the difference.
[12:32] <dwarder> NickyJ101: so i just run updater and that's all?
[12:32] <NickyJ101> ganeshran: yeah, but my net drops out and so updates are harder, how do you mean the version upgrades?
[12:32] <clone`KillaloT> When i am searching for the upgrade in the update manager i get a GPG error for http://kondr.ic.cz luced release, which says that the following public key could not be verified: Ubuntu 10.10 NO_PUBKEY 2FBEE62ECCDC2A15
[12:32] <ganeshran> NickyJ101: i mean from 10.04 to 10.10
[12:33] <skep> erUSUL: but I can't run ubuntu-bug since I can't even boot
[12:33] <NickyJ101> dwarder: that's the theory, if it sees it then easy, let me know if for whatever reason it doesn't give you that option
[12:33] <ganeshran> download servers are crawling. i am downloading at 69 kbps
[12:33] <ganeshran> :(
[12:33] <andrew1358> Jk
[12:33] <erUSUL> skep: :S i see they have made it harder and harder to do a bug report directly in launchpad ... let me dig a little
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> ganeshran:  20% done via torrents. :)  maxing out my connection
[12:34] <NickyJ101> ganeshran: that why i say let it continue, it will not get much quicker for a few days
[12:34] <ashiswin> i cant seem to upgrade my ubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> I alwasy upgrade a day or 2 befor release. then wait a week.
[12:34] <ganeshran> Dr_Willis: how much are you seeding?
[12:34] <NickyJ101> dwarder: did it work?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> ganeshran:  a whoppng 4k/s :)
[12:34] <dwarder> NickyJ101: thank you
[12:34] <Super_Roach> ashiswin, how are you trying to update?
[12:34] <zebrac> as what people says on facebook.. servers are fully booked
[12:34] <NickyJ101> dwarder: ok, happy meekat
[12:34] <aeon-ltd> heh, its funny that this is the one problem ubuntu will always have as long as it stays in a set release cycle rather than rolling release
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> ganeshran:  oh wait - its up to 10 now.
[12:35] <ganeshran> Dr_Willis: I am on ADSL so seeding at max makes it way tooo slow
[12:35] <_kroson_> ashiswin: whats the problem with upgrading for you?
[12:35] <drcooper> just installed maverick
[12:35] <ashiswin> well
[12:35] <ashiswin> i'm usin update manager
[12:35] <drcooper> but i get gpg errors for maverick-updates and maverick-security
[12:35] <cablop> i don't get the meaning of the LTS if the subsequent releases make them obsolete
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> !lts
[12:35] <ashiswin> and it always dies when its calculating changes when setting software channels
[12:35] <NickyJ101> ganeshran: torrents will get quicker, but you need to wai for enough to start hosting
[12:35] <dwarder> !notes
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  you dont need to upgrade to this release.. you can also go LTS to LTS..
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  and skip over the in between
[12:36] <cablop> yes, but... obsolesence
[12:36] <drcooper> i get gpg errors for maverick-updates and maverick-security
[12:36] <NickyJ101> cablop: Ubuntu 8.04 still supported
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  is a vague term...
[12:36] <raven> how to install anything on damnsmallinux? (yum/apt-get not found)
[12:36] <cablop> yes and running it makes you feel in teh past, hehe :P
[12:36] <drcooper> i get gpg errors for maverick-updates and maverick-security
[12:36] <shauno> cablop: 6 months old is not obsolete
[12:36] <erUSUL> raven: ask a DSL channel
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> raven:  read the homepage/docs for that disrto.. its not ubuntu.
[12:36] <drcooper> bad SIGN
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/fix-nopubkey-error-for-extras-ubuntu.html
[12:37] <cablop> shauno, when you are stuck with an old browser, old openoffice and so on... yes it it
[12:37] <zebrac> raven this is not a dsl forum.. 8-)
[12:37] <NickyJ101> cablop: so update it
[12:37] <cablop> lol
[12:37] <uLinux> when upgrading Ubuntu do i need to delete partitions or can I just format all partitions except for /home and swap?
[12:37] <cablop> this is my point... :)
[12:37] <NickyJ101> cablop: if you have the LTS, then it only one version behind everything else, and everything a point update (like 3.1.1 to 3.1.2)
[12:37] <anon_> Maybe a stupid question, but when I try to upgrade I get this message: "This is still a RELEASE-CANDIDATE release."
[12:37] <jxjl> good morning, I m trying new ubuntu netbook. Is there any way, how to install classic netbook interface in 10.10?
[12:37] <anon_> Is it safe to upgrade?
[12:37] <Codewolf> afternoon/morning all, just a quick question, does anyone know the status of the archives as i am getting 'unable to connect' errors to gb.archive.ubuntu
[12:37] <cablop> uLinux: depends in your 'upgrade'method
[12:37] <aeon-ltd> uLinux: yes, you only need enough for / to install
[12:38] <erUSUL> cablop: you can mitigate some of those things with a few selected ppa/backports getting "the best of both worlds?"
[12:38] <tsimpson> anon_: it's possible that the mirror hasn't been fully updated yet
[12:38] <NickyJ101> anon_: yep, let me know if you need assistance
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> jxjl:  i think there is.. but i dont use it any more..  check the package manager
[12:38] <nigelb> Codewolf: some mirrors are still syncing and may not be up-to-date
[12:38] <sam_sam> can one write a c++ program for 2 fixed platforms .. say windows vista and linux ?
[12:38] <cablop> er
[12:38] <anon_> tsimpson, Ok I see.
[12:38] <cablop> erUSUL: yep
[12:38] <uLinux> cablop: i have a separate partition for /home
[12:38] <cablop> erUSUL: but this is more like workaround
[12:38] <jpds> nigelb: No, gb.archive is slightly overloaded.
[12:38] <Codewolf> nigelb: thanks
[12:38] <erUSUL> sam_sam: use a cross platform framework? Qt claims to be one
[12:38] <maakri> @uLinux: you can keep /home and swap and just reinstall on your / partition
[12:38] <shauno> cablop: if you think a 6 month old browser is obselete, then you're probably not the target market for LTS
[12:38] <tsimpson> sam_sam: as long as you use standand C++ or a toolkit like Qt or GTK+
[12:38] <anon_> NickyJ101, thanks.
[12:39] <jpds> Codewolf: It's a bit loaded at the moment, try again in a few minutes.
[12:39] <ljsoftnet> can someone point me to the URL for boot plymouth fix?
[12:39] <uLinux> maakri: yeah that's what i want to do.. but about swap.. better to format?
[12:39] <NickyJ101> anon_: open update manager, click on settings and change distribution download from LTS to normal
[12:39] <NickyJ101> anon_: open update manager, click on settings and change distribution download from LTS to normal
[12:39] <uLinux> should i format swap area?
[12:39] <NickyJ101> anon_: open update manager, click on settings and change distribution download from LTS to normal
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> uLinux:  No newed to reformat swap if it exists
[12:39] <maakri> uLinux: yeah, if you want. makes no difference. just keep the /home partition untouched
[12:39] <uLinux> :)
[12:39] <aeon-ltd> uLinux: no need, you can use the same swap partition
[12:39] <cablop> in my opinion an LTS would be the default source of libraries to build future releases so to poprt back will be simple, also, that orce developers to bring fully finished and polished applications to LTS world and to improve them in subsequent versions
[12:39] <NickyJ101> anon_: open update manager, click on settings and change distribution download from LTS to normal
[12:39] <uLinux> ty
[12:39] <Codewolf> jpds: thought as much, was just trying to do my daily update for my testing server :P
[12:39] <ganeshran> which is the next LTS?
[12:39] <anon_> NickyJ101, I just did. thanks
[12:40] <simpleblue> is it possible to join the release party page?
[12:40] <NickyJ101> anon_: sorry for jargon, pc went a bit slow then....
[12:40] <erUSUL> !party > simpleblue
[12:40] <Codewolf> jpds: wierd thing is i'm getting a 'ping' response :P
[12:40] <simpleblue> thanks
[12:40] <Lcawte> Me upgrade keeps failing, at aroundsql things. Do I need to stop my lamp server (desktop ubuntu) first?
[12:40] <Codewolf> hence the query
[12:40] <NickyJ101> ganeshran: will be a 12.xx
[12:40] <jpds> Codewolf: ping != HTTPd.
[12:41] <sam_sam> erUSUL:,tsimpson: ty, thats exactly my Q is .. Qt can be used to make cross platform programs ?and if i have to use OS specific library/header files (eg. system.h)what are the things that are neededs to take care ?
[12:41] <Codewolf> jpds: true that
[12:41] <simpleblue> thank you so much!!!
[12:41] <simpleblue> :D
[12:41] <Gryllida> I'm on 10.04, how do I upgrade to 10.10?
[12:41] <Gryllida> Is it stable?
[12:41] <jxjl> Dr_Willis: there is only light 2D version, but not full classic UNR, is there any PPA or source upgraded (compatible) for 10.10?
[12:41] <Lcawte> Gryllida: it was released today.. You running desktop edition?
[12:41] <NickyJ101> Gryllida: open update manager, and check for updates
[12:41] <travkin> lol, it was released today, and you are asking about stability :D
[12:41] <Adam1213> in ubunutu 10.10 how do i fix the colour of the cpu  scaling monitor
[12:42] <Adam1213> its not readable atm
[12:42] <NickyJ101> Gryllida: let us know of any issues
[12:42] <erUSUL> sam_sam: you will have to ask further questions in another forum ... maybe #c++ ? or a qt channel
[12:42] <Codewolf> ooh thats a point forgot 10.10. was released today
[12:42] <NickyJ101> Gryllida: yes it is the final release so stable
[12:42] <BeatBoxBudgie> There's a spelling mistake on the 10.10 description page.
[12:43] <erUSUL> BeatBoxBudgie: #ubuntu-webpage
[12:43] <BeatBoxBudgie> thanks
[12:44] <BeatBoxBudgie> erUSUL: that room is empty :/
[12:45] <zetheroo1> what did I miss?
[12:45] <erUSUL> BeatBoxBudgie: :S
[12:46] <Codewolf> right, thanks for your help people :)
[12:46] <Adam1213> in ubunutu 10.10 how can i change the text colour of the CPU Frequency Scaling monitor on the panel  - currently the colour makes it impossible to read
[12:46]  * Codewolf out
[12:46] <uLinux> currently Disk Utility shows this "WARNING: The partition is misaligned by 1024 bytes. This may result in very poor performance. Repartitioning is suggested." it's my extended /home partition. Repartioning means i should resize it or format etc?
[12:46] <erUSUL> BeatBoxBudgie: is #ubuntu-website sorry
[12:46] <matt__> I am excited!:D
[12:46] <BeatBoxBudgie> Thanks
[12:46] <zetheroo1> is it out yet? :P
[12:46] <maakri> yes
[12:46] <matt__> not in tassie:P
[12:46] <maakri> it has been for a while
[12:46] <erUSUL> uLinux: recreate the partition ( maybe moving it in gparted does the trick really dunno)
[12:47] <zetheroo1> maakri: yeah ... just teasin'
[12:47] <matt__> Surely it hasnt properly been released yet
[12:47] <maakri> lol
[12:47] <maakri> cool
[12:47] <zxd> hi
[12:47] <zxd> hi
[12:47] <KeithWeisshar> why isn't there a dvd iso for ubuntu 10.10?
[12:47] <maakri> uLinux:  but make sure you backup you /home before you try resizing
[12:47] <matt__> there is
[12:47] <zetheroo1> KeithWeisshar: it's not that big
[12:47] <matt__> i have link
[12:47] <zetheroo1> !?
[12:47] <zxd> do nfs options in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf  work with nfs4?
[12:47] <Gryllida>  < Gryllida> I'm on 10.04, how do I upgrade to 10.10?  < NickyJ101> Gryllida: open update manager, and check for updates <- I just did, restarted, still on 10.04
[12:48] <Gryllida> ...
[12:48] <Adam1213> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/640153 :(
[12:48] <Gryllida> Lcawte, yes I am running desktop edition
[12:48] <KeithWeisshar> is the wubi installer compatible with windows 7
[12:48] <aldin> what is keyboard combination for printing specific windows, "Alt + Prt Scr" doesnt work
[12:48] <zebrac> coz its only aprrox. 693 mb. apps package were not included unlike ultimate edition.
[12:48] <sam_sam> erUSUL:ty :) .. one more question ..maybe will be asked there too .. i get an error while compiling a simple program (= "hello world" ) >>"No valid Qt version set. Set one in Tools/Options " when i checked there, there was "autodetect " like option and not like qt3/qt4 .. how do i fix ?
[12:48] <matt__> It obviously hasnt been uploaded to DM yet
[12:48] <hid3> Gryllida: maybe you need update-manager -d?
[12:48] <KeithWeisshar> windows 7 has a hidden system reserved partition?
[12:48] <erUSUL> uLinux: resizing wont help becouse that wont move the beggining of the partition
[12:48] <cupis> Gryllida, run update-manager, change the settings to allow non-LTS version, then close and run update-manager -d
[12:48] <maakri> is there any performance loss if i run a 32 bit os on a 64 bit arch. ??????
[12:48] <Gryllida> hid3: yes! doing.
[12:49] <Gryllida> = Welcome to the Ubuntu 'Maverick Meerkat' development release =
[12:49] <Gryllida> ***
[12:49] <Gryllida> This is still a RELEASE-CANDIDATE release.
[12:49] <chrissharp123> Gryllida: 10.04 should not automatically prompt to upgrade - it's an LTS
[12:49] <Gryllida> Do not install it on production machines.
[12:49] <Gryllida> ?
[12:49] <FloodBot1> Gryllida: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <KeithWeisshar> i have 12gb of ram, do i need the 64-bit version?
[12:49] <erUSUL> maakri: depends on the app
[12:49] <Gryllida> is it stable?
[12:49] <erUSUL> KeithWeisshar: yes
[12:49] <ewook> maakri: for sure, you don't gain anything at least.
[12:49] <erUSUL> sam_sam: really dunno; again ask in a qt channel
[12:49] <chrissharp123> Gryllida: if stability is your main concern, stick with what you have, then upgrade in a month or so (IMHO)
[12:49] <maakri> erUSUL: im talking about the OS itself. will the OS be laggy?
[12:49] <hid3> hours ago it becamestable
[12:50] <erUSUL> maakri: no
[12:50] <sam_sam> erUSUL:ok ty
[12:50] <matt__> erusul
[12:50] <cupis> Gryllida, it is released today and is stable, but it is not a "Long Term Support" version, so "only" 18 months of support
[12:50] <matt__> no it wont
[12:50] <maakri> ok cool
[12:50] <maakri> thanks
[12:50] <KeithWeisshar> do you have a link to known issues?
[12:50] <aldin> what is keyboard combination for "Make a screenshot of current window.", "Alt + Print Screen" doesnt work anymore
[12:50] <uLinux> maakri: i wont to anything i dont see/feel any problem with my HDD
[12:51] <bekks> It works for me.
[12:51] <Gryllida> cupis: is it stable?
[12:51] <uLinux> erUSUL: but if i delete the other partitions they could align with /home partition?
[12:51] <erUSUL> uLinux: aligning partitions is important for performance in raid lvm set ups
[12:51] <Gryllida> as in, what is the official latest stable version here now?
[12:52] <erUSUL> uLinux: if it is a normal partition i would not bother
[12:52] <VampiricPadraig> yes Gryllida
[12:52] <uLinux> erUSUL: yeah it is
[12:52] <NickyJ101> ok am back after short network issue, any issues with trying to download / update?
[12:52] <Gryllida> ok
[12:52] <VampiricPadraig> 10.10 is stable
[12:52] <Tanvir> Hello I'm upgrading lucid to maverick now, will it cause any loss of my data on home folder?
[12:53] <perlsyntax> 10.10 is out yes!!
[12:53] <chrissharp123> KeithWeisshar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes#Known Issues
[12:53] <travkin> Tanvir, no
[12:53] <magnetron> Tanvir: depends on how you install it
[12:53] <chrissharp123> Tanvir: you should always back up before upgrading
[12:53] <ugliefrog> in just a few moments i will be installing a frsh 10.10 as soon as cd finishes burning
[12:54] <NickyJ101> Tanvir: if you do it via update manager then no
[12:54] <Tanvir> magnetron, My home folder is not in another drive.
[12:54] <magnetron> Tanvir: how will you upgrade?
[12:54] <Tanvir> NickyJ101, yes, I'm downloading via upgrade manager.
[12:54] <uLinux> erUSUL: when i installed i chose swap size first then root then home all extended. is this ok?
[12:54] <maakri> Tanvir: then its fine
[12:55] <Tanvir> It said new version is available and I click on upgrade.
[12:55] <aftertaf> !broadcom
[12:55] <magnetron> Tanvir: then it will keep the home partition and your personal application settings.
[12:55] <erUSUL> uLinux: yes
[12:55] <_kroson_> Tanvir: you wont loose your data :)
[12:55] <aldin> (01:50:45 PM) aldin: what is keyboard combination for "Make a screenshot of current window.", "Alt + Print Screen" doesnt work anymore
[12:55] <aldin> for those interested you have to make it yourself, it seems imposible to have Alt + Print, if you set some other combination it works... looks like bug to me :)
[12:56] <maakri> !join
[12:56] <Tanvir> Oh, I am then safe now. I hoped so, so I took the risk. Now I know, it's not a risk. :)
[12:56] <TiK> I love ubuntu
[12:56] <NickyJ101> Tanvir: yep it fine that way, only issue is if you did it via a cd
[12:56] <NickyJ101> TiK: welcome to the club
[12:56] <TiK> ive been running 10.10 for months
[12:56] <TiK> :D
[12:57] <coz_> hey guys... anyone know if the maverick minimal cd is  available yet?
[12:57] <NickyJ101> wow these servers are getting busy
[12:57] <hid3> All CDs are availavle YET
[12:57] <jpds> NickyJ101: Yes, they are doing their job.
[12:57] <Slick0201> NickyJ101, the download servers?
[12:57] <TiK> coz: and you can't check because...?
[12:57] <NickyJ101> coz_: not sure, normally they are an added extra and the last iso to be built
[12:57] <Tanvir> Thanks to all of you. Wish all the best.
[12:58] <coz_> NickyJ101,  yeah I cant find it any where yet
[12:58] <NickyJ101> slick0201: yep for the update manager, oddly the raw iso servers not looking too strained
[12:58] <jumr> 爽死来
[12:58] <Gryllida> !zh
[12:58] <Gryllida> !jp
[12:58] <Slick0201> NickyJ101, well, they prepare for this sort of thing... they're gonna get hammered for the next 4-5 days
[12:58] <Gryllida> http://s2.kimag.es/share/10589115.png aren't any longer available if I update from 10.04 to 10.10, should I?
[12:58] <NickyJ101> anyone having any issues downloading or updating to 10.10
[12:58] <Gryllida> NickyJ101: ^^^^
[12:58] <Gryllida> LOL
[12:59] <NickyJ101> Slick0201: I know, have been helping out a little bit
[12:59] <Gryllida> these are mine
[12:59] <uLinux> what's the purpose of making a /boot partition?
[12:59] <uLinux> for boot
[12:59] <jpds> coz_: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[12:59] <aeon-ltd> uLinux: to store grub
[12:59] <hid3> I like keeping everything in / , making separate partitions as /data and/or /backups
[13:00] <NickyJ101> Gryllida: they have mostly been incorporated into other packages, you should be able to request it not to delete them at the end
[13:00] <hid3> depends on the type of the system I'm setting up
[13:00] <coz_> jpds,   yeah but that is  64 bit
[13:00] <jpds> coz_: installer-i386 ?
[13:00] <hid3> ;-)
[13:00] <yassine> hi everyone
[13:00] <teleri> how do i add icons to 10.10's luncher?
[13:00] <NickyJ101> jpds: the link you gave was for a 64bit version, not the 32bit (i386)
[13:00] <aeon-ltd> hid3: meh i'd say for ubuntu, given its set release schedule, to just have / /home /swap partitions, just if anything goes wrong its easier to wipe / and fresh install
[13:00] <asdcaiod> How do you install java?
[13:01] <jpds> NickyJ101: Read my message, after that.
[13:01] <asdcaiod> Under ubuntu 10.04?
[13:01] <coz_> jpds  yes  I would like to use the minimal 32 bit
[13:01] <aeon-ltd> !java | asdcaiod
[13:01] <Adam1213> asdcaiod: iced tea
[13:01] <chrissharp123> NickyJ101: you can use an alternative mirror to download: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#mirrors
[13:01] <jpds> coz_: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[13:01] <NickyJ101> jpds: right, no have not seen one yet
[13:01] <hid3> Use my mirror, mine is almost idling ;-)
[13:01] <uLinux> this means i started installing with a Logical partition right  /dev/sda1   *           1      121602   976760833    5  Extended
[13:01] <KeithWeisshar> are there more packages in the dvd version of ubuntu
[13:01] <teleri> how do i add icons to 10.10's luncher?
[13:01] <coz_> I believe the partner repositories have sun java on maverick at lest  it did last week
[13:01] <teleri> how do i add icons to 10.10's launcher?
[13:01] <NickyJ101> chrissharp123: download going fine now, got it on 2/3, just third is queueing like all others, prefer not using cd's if i can help it
[13:02] <jforman> hi all. i am trying to install 10.10 via usb stick. i create the install disk using the 'startup disk creator' in my already running 10.04 box and when trying to boot the usb key get "error in configuration file" from syslinux. is there something wrong i am doing here?
[13:02] <chrissharp123> NickyJ101: great
[13:02] <uLinux> "Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary"
[13:02] <moetunes> KeithWeisshar:  no - just language packs
[13:02] <NickyJ101> chrissharp123: sorry, 2nd of 3rd pc
[13:02] <asdcaiod> !java
[13:02] <chrissharp123> NickyJ101: rock on!
[13:02] <henrik__> i upgraded my ubuntu 10.04 server to ubuntu server 10.10 by the sudo do-release-upgrade. after the installation is done my system after reboot everytime says that a system reboot is required?
[13:02] <aeon-ltd> 1/part
[13:02] <KeithWeisshar> does the dvd version include desktop, server and text-mode on one disc
[13:03] <chrissharp123> KeithWeisshar: "Don't be confused, even though DVDs can hold far more data than the typical Ubuntu CD, the main benefit of the DVD downloads is to get access to all of the available language packs"
[13:04] <chrissharp123> KeithWeisshar: from http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd
[13:04] <KeithWeisshar> can ubuintu be installed to a usb flash drive
[13:04] <henrik__> KeithWeisshar: yes
[13:04] <Alan> Hmmm, the installer is consistently failing for me :(
[13:05] <Alan> I've checked the MD5SUM of the CD image
[13:05] <KeithWeisshar> can the usb flash drive only have one partition
[13:05] <chrissharp123> Alan: error messages?
[13:05] <NickyJ101> KeithWeisshar: just more language, and yes it can be on usb
[13:05] <Alan> I've used the USB startup disk creator in ubuntu Lucid to put it on USB drive
[13:05] <Adam1213> KeithWeisshar: yes
[13:05] <NickyJ101> KeithWeissahr: why do you need more than one usb partition?
[13:05] <KeithWeisshar> one for swap
[13:05] <coz_> KeithWeisshar,  the minimal install cd ... has all of the ubuntu versions...server...kubuntu  edubuntu etc etc  ...it simply downloads the files during install instead of having them on the cd /dvd
[13:05] <Alan> chrissharp123: [Errno5] Input/output error "... blah blah often due to faulty disk blah..."
[13:06] <NickyJ101> Alan: you trying to install via CD?
[13:06] <Alan> NickyJ101: no, USB, the machine doesn't have a CD drive
[13:06] <KeithWeisshar> where is the minimal install cd that has all ubuntu versions
[13:06] <KeithWeisshar> and downloads them during install
[13:06] <NickyJ101> Alan: does your BIOS support USB boot?
[13:07] <matt__> I want it!
[13:07] <matt__> I wish they would jsut get it to me for cryin gout loud lol
[13:07] <Alan> NickyJ101: yes, every other OS i've installed on this machine has been using USB
[13:07] <Adam1213> Alan try again / check your usb
[13:07] <Alan> NickyJ101: it's not the machine for certain, it may be the USB drive (i'm going to try another one)
[13:07] <Adam1213> maybe your usb is now screwed
[13:07] <KeithWeisshar> coz, do you have a link to the minimal install cd that has all of the ubuntu versions?
[13:08] <weeman> Trying to install 10+ distros on HD each booted by Grub1  title Empty @ hda1 chainloader (hd0,0)+1  and so on. Problem "Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist"
[13:08] <chrissharp123> Alan: agreeing with Adam1213 - sounds like a bad USB
[13:09] <weeman> I am following the JustLinux Saikee tutorial are newer distros broken for grub1 ?
[13:09] <NickyJ101> alan: ok.
[13:09] <maurer_1> weeman: Curiosity, why are you using grub1?
[13:09] <yassine> hi folks, my HP laptop does not reconize the ac adaptor when pluged in what could be the reason?
[13:09] <Alan> chrissharp123: yeah, that's surprising, i've done many linux and windows installs off this USB drive...
[13:09] <nebula_>  10.10 release show up as an update in "software updates" of my ubuntu install
[13:09] <nebula_> ?
[13:10] <chrissharp123> KeithWeisshar: scroll up :-) - 07:59 < jpds> coz_: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[13:10] <NickyJ101> alan: try formatting your usb before putting os on it to help clear errors
[13:10] <Adam1213> yassine: cord not in enough
[13:10] <Adam1213> bios
[13:10] <Alan> NickyJ101: i always do
[13:10] <ashiswin> i cant seem to upgrade my ubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10
[13:10] <helpy> hello
[13:10] <ashiswin> it always dies when its calculating changes when setting software channels
[13:10] <NickyJ101> yassine: does your pc show any signs of charging, or is it just ubuntu
[13:10] <helpy> i have ubuntu 10.04 and i cant connect to wpa or wpa2 network
[13:10] <yassine> Adam1213, it is
[13:10] <coz_> ashiswin,   in terminal   sudo update-manager -d   << yes?
[13:10] <NickyJ101> alan: hmm, you put USB launcher on through Lucid yes?
[13:10] <Alan> NickyJ101: yeah
[13:10] <taomaster> hey i have 10.10 rc  do i need to reinstall 4 today's release?
[13:10] <helpy> i have tried all forums and apparently no one has the solution for it
[13:10] <erUSUL> helpy: what wifi chip ?
[13:11] <ashiswin> no coz_ i i use the normal update manager
[13:11] <helpy> b43 4401 i think
[13:11] <maurer_1> coz_, ashiswin: Shouldn't be necessary any more, as 10.10 is released now.
[13:11] <Guest11367> can someone help me i cant get my microphone working with flash apps
[13:11] <helpy> will check again erUSUL
[13:11] <NickyJ101> yassine: your internal psu might be fried, happened to mine, contact manufacturer
[13:11] <ashiswin> i just open update manager
[13:11] <helpy> bcm 4311
[13:11] <yassine> NickyJ101, nothing under ubuntu but in win* its showing all the progress of charging
[13:11] <ashiswin> and run it
[13:11] <smoo> taomaster, no, you dont need to
[13:11] <ashiswin> but it doesnt work
[13:11] <coz_> maurer_1,  which shouldnt be necessary?
[13:11] <maurer_1> coz_: Running with -d, or running it manuall
[13:11] <maurer_1> *manually
[13:11] <chrissharp123> helpy: have you installed 'bcmwl-kernel-source'?
[13:11] <NickyJ101> yassine: ok, but your pc does charge under ubuntu, just ubuntu not reporting it charging
[13:11] <erUSUL> helpy: « sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter » while connected to internet via wire. then reboot
[13:11] <yassine> NickyJ101, i have a dv7 what is the psq ?
[13:12] <maurer_1> -d is only required before the next deal is released.
[13:12] <taomaster> ok thanks smoo
[13:12] <coz_> maurer_1,  are you saying update manager will list the upgrade?? let me check here
[13:12] <helpy> ofcourse. wifi is working with unsecure networks
[13:12] <yassine> NickyJ101, correct
[13:12] <chrissharp123> helpy: listen to erUSUL :-)
[13:12] <smoo> taomaster, just try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:12] <NickyJ101> alan: not too sure really, could be a usb issue, you don't have a USB CD drive?
[13:12] <helpy> i have installed it erUSUL
[13:12] <dca> can someone help me i cant get my microphone working with flash apps
[13:12] <helpy> my wifi IS working.
[13:12] <helpy> its just it cant connect to wpa networks
[13:12] <helpy> in university without security it works fine
[13:12] <NickyJ101> yassine: ok, not too sure, I'm helping with download issues, look at forums or post a bug in launchpad
[13:12] <Alan> NickyJ101: no, i don't have a USB CD drive
[13:12] <Kosonome> helpy, you have a router?
[13:13] <helpy> at home yea
[13:13] <NickyJ101> dca: right click on Flash app, then click properties
[13:13] <helpy> dlink
[13:13] <NickyJ101> Alan: haha, would be wishful, ok.
[13:13] <chrissharp123> taomaster: smoo - sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will not install the new release - it just upgrades all packages
[13:13] <ashiswin> i'm trying a manual apdate
[13:13] <Alan> NickyJ101: yeah, this is going to pretty annoying if USB installs don't actually work...
[13:13] <gianni> ho un problema con l'installazione del microfono della webcam...ho ubuntu 10.04 e la webcan è microsoft
[13:13] <smoo> chrissharp123, he's using the rc, so he just needs latest patches
[13:13] <erUSUL> !it | gianni
[13:13] <azm> please how is called stock bittorrent client in ubuntu ?
[13:13] <chrissharp123> smoo: ah - my mistake :-)
[13:13] <Slick0201> azm, transmission
[13:14] <erUSUL> azm: transmission
[13:14] <cupis> azm, transmission
[13:14] <NickyJ101> Alan: they should work, since USB launch is same files as cd, just extracted and stored with extra autorun and boot files
[13:14] <Kosonome> try setting wpa2 there, with both tkip and aes
[13:14] <azm> thank you all :)
[13:14]  * erUSUL wins
[13:14] <TiK> chrissharp123: you need the -d optioni think
[13:14] <arturaz> hello. How do I add a dir to system path?
[13:14] <helpy> any ideas ?
[13:14] <NickyJ101> alan: you trying to get 32bit desktop I assume?
[13:14] <Kosonome> helpy, try setting wpa2 with both tkip and aes
[13:14] <chrissharp123> TiK: yep
[13:14] <taomaster> smoo i guess i'm ok nothing happened
[13:14] <Alan> NickyJ101: yeah, that's what I thought...  since nobody knows of any issues here i'm going to first assume that my cheapo USB drive is screwed
[13:14] <helpy> now what is that
[13:14] <dca> nicky101: done
[13:14] <erUSUL> chrissharp123: make sure you have normal in System>Admin>Software sources... third tab ( updates ) and not LTs only
[13:14] <Alan> NickyJ101: 64-bit desktop
[13:14] <NickyJ101> Please note, UK servers are very high at the moment
[13:15] <ikonia> NickyJ101: do you have access to their bandwidth stats ?
[13:15] <NickyJ101> Alan: it might have had enough of os transfers on it, they do stop
[13:15] <Kosonome> helpy: ways of ciphers i guess :P
[13:15] <uLinux> nice keyboard bug during install :)
[13:15] <NickyJ101> ikonia: i get service messages telling me of issues
[13:15] <helpy> on it Kosonome. stay tuned :)
[13:15] <chrissharp123> erUSUL: I'm not trying to install :-) - I was trying to help smoo and taomaster and misunderstood the question
[13:15] <drcooper> arturaz PATH=$PATH:/path/to/foldertobeadded
[13:15] <ikonia> NickyJ101: from where?
[13:15] <ikonia> NickyJ101: where are you getting an issue to tell you the UK servers are under load
[13:15] <helpy> but that isnt the problem
[13:15] <arturaz> drcooper, yeah, but in what file?
[13:15] <NickyJ101> dca: good, some places ok, but loads in UK are high
[13:15] <helpy> it should connect to wpa
[13:15] <Alan> NickyJ101: I haven't had it that long, i know that flash drives get unrecoverable errors eventually because that's the way flash is, but i've not done anywhere near enough writes for that to be the case
[13:16] <GregValheru> uLinux, what happens with the keyboard?
[13:16] <drcooper> add it to .bashrc
[13:16] <NickyJ101> ikonia: A friend of mine who is on task team in us
[13:16] <drcooper> in ur home folder
[13:16] <arturaz> drcooper, i need it system wide
[13:16] <uLinux> GregValheru: i selected Portugal but it's showing Turksh
[13:16] <uLinux> Turkish
[13:16] <Kosonome> helpy: you have some strange character in your password? :P
[13:16] <GregValheru> dang
[13:16] <ikonia> NickyJ101: who ?
[13:16] <drcooper> but only when u are logged in right
[13:16] <drcooper> ?
[13:16] <Kosonome> helpy: last time, that killed me
[13:16] <helpy> not at home
[13:16] <helpy> at a friends place we have this swedish ä
[13:17] <helpy> but since i can write it, it should work on network also
[13:17] <drcooper> azturaz if all users need that then add to /etc/bashrc
[13:17] <NickyJ101> Alan: yeah, my personal choice is to always get a usb cd drive, or to get something more robust. A friend of mine got a 4GB CF drive a while ago with no issues as they are more stable
[13:17] <helpy> it basically keeps trying to connect and in the end says cant connect
[13:17] <brad_> hey, i'm about to install 1010 :-), so i'm going to move all my ext4 files over to an ntfs formated external usb disk, and then bring them back to ext4, should i be worried?
[13:17] <drcooper> azturaz if only for u then add to home>.basrc
[13:17] <drcooper> bashrc
[13:17] <chrissharp123> brad_: that's the way I do it :-)
[13:17] <Alan> NickyJ101: but a USB CD drive is bulky and of limited use
[13:17] <uLinux> damn keyboard bug
[13:18] <chrissharp123> brad_: the files don't know that they were created on ext4 or NTFS, so it's all good
[13:18] <Kosonome> helpy: not sure then, i'm just new to ubuntu :P
[13:18] <Alan> NickyJ101: pretty much the only thing i use CDs for is OS installs, and even then I don't any more
[13:18] <NickyJ101> Alan: only uses to install onto his office netbook pc's and is robust it can survive multiple os writes
[13:18] <Kosonome> helpy: wi-fi is working fine here
[13:18] <dadrc> I'm trying to write a udev rule for my logitech headset, the one I've got (http://pastey.net/141380) works with udevadm test, but doesn't do anything with the real thing... any hints?
[13:19] <ikonia> NickyJ101: please check your private message window
[13:19] <ganeshran> man the download is taking forever
[13:19] <ganeshran> :(
[13:19] <POVaddct> chrissharp123: but permissions and special will not be preserved
[13:19] <dca> nickyj101: i have tried to fix it in the settings but i couldnt
[13:19] <Slick0201> helpy, are you using 32 or 64bit?
[13:19] <uLinux> omg im stucked on keyboard settings
[13:19] <uLinux> during install
[13:19] <smoo> ganeshran, you should consider downloading via bit torrent
[13:19] <POVaddct> chrissharp123: *special files
[13:19] <Slick0201> the torrents are flying
[13:20] <NickyJ101> ikonia: why does it matter
[13:20] <NickyJ101> dca: what is the problem?
[13:20] <ikonia> NickyJ101: because your making statements and I'm asking you who is giving you official information about the UK mirrors
[13:20] <Kosonome> people, i just installed with a DVD with ubuntu 10.04, i just need to update ubuntu to get 10.10?
[13:20] <dca> my microphone doesnt works with flash apps
[13:20] <jrib> !upgrade | Kosonome
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Kosonome:  i would wait a few days and update. servers are going to be slow now.
[13:20] <Kosonome> thanks :)
[13:21] <uLinux> Ready when you are
[13:21] <chrissharp123> POVaddct: mmm - good point - I have had some permission-related issues around that before...
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> Kosonome:  you Could download a 10.10 iso via torrents if you wanted to.
[13:21] <uLinux> stucked on "Ready when you are"
[13:21] <NickyJ101> ikonia: look, I just give advice, someone tipped me that the UK servers were looking high from the Oxford server base, not sure who, does it really matter that much?
[13:21] <olafur> The torrent is dl-ing really fast
[13:21] <helpy> 32 bit slick
[13:21] <uLinux> no Back or Foward button
[13:21] <ikonia> NickyJ101: yes as if it's not official information please don't pass it out
[13:21] <Kosonome> since its slow, i'll wait like Dr_Willis said
[13:21] <ganeshran> olafur: what speed is it downloading?
[13:21] <Kosonome> thanks for the info people
[13:22] <NickyJ101> ikonia: and to be honest, i bet it is in high load as are most servers during any major release
[13:22] <POVaddct> chrissharp123: another way would be to store the files in a tarball on the ntfs disk
[13:22] <ikonia> NickyJ101: yes, I'm sure it is, but as I said, if it's not official please don't pass it out as fact
[13:22] <Kosonome> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes : They don't have upgrade to 10.04 to 10.10. :O
[13:22] <chrissharp123> POVaddct: I think that's what I'll do when I get ready to upgrade next time
[13:23] <Alan> wow, ok, that's impressive - trying to do a USB installer that time completely broke disk IO
[13:23] <helpy> its really weird that i can connect on windows with wpa2 but not on linux
[13:23] <chrissharp123> Alan: different USB? or the same one?
[13:23] <NickyJ101> dca: ok, have you tried right clicking on the flash app, bring up settings?
[13:23] <helpy> what was the command for firmware update again ?
[13:23] <Dreaman> os[Linux 2.6.35-22-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "maverick" 10.10] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 7750 Dual-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.70GHz] mem[Physical: 3.9GB, 82.9% free] disk[Total: 591.0GB, 33.4% free] video[ATI Technologies Inc RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI]
[13:23] <NickyJ101> alan: how did you find that out, does the disk no longer work at all?
[13:23] <Dreaman> :P
[13:23] <rainingsky> hello everyone.good morning.
[13:23] <erUSUL> helpy: try installing linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[13:24] <erUSUL> helpy: newer driver may help
[13:24] <Stealth_> Hmm. My computer is slightly buggy and does not like being left on for to long. I have a 17 hour gparted operation left on my external HDD. Question is, is there any way I can suspend or reset the computer without damaging the external HDD?
[13:24] <jrib> Kosonome: you should be able to upgrade with update manager (it should offer you an option for a new release)
[13:24] <helpy> i have installed it already erSUL
[13:24] <dca> nickyj101: yes i have
[13:24] <rainingsky> in fact i am at night now.
[13:24] <helpy> i have read all forums before i asked
[13:24] <Stealth_> Because I doub its going to last for 17 more hours at all
[13:24] <ganeshran> I should have waited for a couple of days before upgrading :(
[13:24] <Kosonome> jrib: thanks ;3
[13:24] <Raydiation> can anone link the torrent file here? the server is too slow atm
[13:24] <helpy> does it require a restart to work ?
[13:24] <helpy> because thats what i didnt do
[13:24] <NickyJ101> dca: does your soundcard currently work in ubuntu?
[13:24] <jrib> !torrents | Raydiation
[13:24] <Sethpalmo> Hello all! :)
[13:24] <erUSUL> helpy: yes; that or reload the modules---
[13:25] <NickyJ101> Raydiation: alot will be as people leach instead of seed
[13:25] <helpy> like disabling and enabling network ?
[13:25] <erUSUL> helpy: sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb && sudo modprobe b43
[13:25] <Sethpalmo> I got a problem with Ubuntu 10.04 when installing. I booted from a USB key, and there is no disc or partitions on step 4 of installation. :/
[13:25] <ganeshran> guys will ubuntu work well on a asus eeepc?
[13:25] <dca> i think yes, my mic works fine with other applications
[13:25] <NickyJ101> ok giving my 3rd pc a 3rd attempt at getting 10.10
[13:25] <Friar> how can I check the md5 sum of a 10.10 torrent? I want to make sure that I got it correctly.
[13:25] <Krystyano> ki per storia cyber credibile? solo esperti e amanti dei dettagli
[13:25] <helpy> FATAL: Module ssb is in use
[13:25] <Sethpalmo> Have you any clue to allow me continuing the installation?
[13:25] <uLinux> how can i report a bug
[13:26] <chrissharp123> ganeshran: should be fine - use the netbook edition
[13:26] <erUSUL> Friar: torrent clients already use "strong" checksumming ...
[13:26] <erUSUL> !md5 | Friar but anyway
[13:26] <Alan> chrissharp123: different USB drive
[13:26] <chrissharp123> !it | Krystyano
[13:26] <NickyJ101> uLinux: the ubuntu launchpad
[13:26] <ganeshran> chrissharp123: Ok will do.
[13:26] <olafur> up to 400 KB/s
[13:26] <olafur> on my slow internet connection
[13:26] <mattcodes> newb question, how much does a default ubuntu 10 desktop install stick to a hardware profile, if I just took the partition from a HP desktop and dd it on to a Dell laptop (along with setting up grub) it should just work? or is it anal about hardware and the holds onto the intial probing to dear death
[13:26] <Alan> NickyJ101: erm, well, USB disk creator was on "finishing" and no other requests from my hard drive were getting fulfilled at all
[13:26] <chrissharp123> Alan: are you sure your PC's HDD is in good working order?
[13:26] <Raydiation> NickyJ101: ty
[13:27] <Friar> thanks erUSUL, so it is most likely already fine because torrents check all the packages and make sure that they are complete?
[13:27] <Kosonome> anyone have some experiencie with http://www.playonlinux.com/  to play? it's recommended use it, or it's better goes with cedega? :O
[13:27] <Alan> chrissharp123: certain
[13:27] <olafur> steady at 400 it's been ... finishing now in a total 15 mins
[13:27] <Alan> chrissharp123: also, the CD image is on a network drive, not on this machine
[13:27] <ikonia> mattcodes: should work, things like video cards can be fussy, keep in mind if you dd it you dd the partition table too and you could lose disk space
[13:27] <NickyJ101> Alan: ahh, yes, IO looking dead
[13:27] <Tdude> Anyone know if the 10.10 release supports the USB stick boot?
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> mattcodes:  ive moved installs from one brand laptopp. to a radically newer/mondern laptop.. with no issues.. the video card and the wireless card drivers would proberly be the biggesdt stumbling points
[13:27] <Alan> chrissharp123: and i've already MD5SUM'd the disk image to make sure it's correct
[13:27] <maurer_1> mattcodes: Should work.
[13:27] <ganeshran> One file is taking way too long to download.
[13:27] <helpy> did that
[13:27] <helpy> still not working
[13:27] <chrissharp123> Alan: this definitely sounds like a hardware issue
[13:27] <NickyJ101> Alan: at least USB keys these days are quite cheap
[13:27] <maurer_1> mattcodes: All drivers other than vidcard are default installed into the module ramdisk
[13:27] <chrissharp123> Alan: do you have more than one USB port?
[13:28] <POVaddct> NickyJ101: and quite crappy
[13:28] <NickyJ101> Tdude: why, you having issues?
[13:28] <maurer_1> mattcodes: And there will be _something_ there for vidcard, just perhaps not the accelerated one
[13:28] <Alan> chrissharp123: already tried different USB ports
[13:28] <mattcodes> sweet... this makes backups nice.. backup up the raw image.. if PC is stolen (i live in thailand - has happened before) and I just go supermarket and take right off from backup
[13:28] <NickyJ101> POVaddict: what is crappy
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> mattcodes:  one potential issue could be if the old pc used an older version of the nvidia drivers. that dident work with anewer nvidia card..
[13:28] <chrissharp123> Alan: I figured - sounds like you're pretty experienced with all that :-)
[13:28] <NickyJ101> POVaddct: what is crappy
[13:28] <WXZ> is there a terminal command
[13:28] <mattcodes> I can deal with reconfiguring nvidia/amd
[13:28] <WXZ> to check the # of installed packages?
[13:28] <POVaddct> NickyJ101: bad quality
[13:28] <mattcodes> thanks
[13:29] <NickyJ101> povaddct: what is bad quality
[13:29] <Alan> chrissharp123: the main reason I even started asking in here is just to see if tehre was a known issue
[13:29] <uLinux> NickyJ101: http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9505/keyboardlayoutbugmaveri.png
[13:29] <Kuba> where is the party?
[13:29] <chrissharp123> WXZ: dkpg -l | grep -c ii
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> NickyJ101:  and how do you even measuer  the quality. :)
[13:29] <Tdude> Guys
[13:29] <moetunes> WXZ:  you could try   dpkg -l | wc -l
[13:29] <maurer_1> WXZ:  dpkg -l | awk '{print $1}' | grep -c ii
[13:29] <maurer_1> moetunes: That will count some uninstalled packages
[13:29] <WXZ> I really have to learn how to terminal :(
[13:29] <Tdude> If I am to format a USB stick to add the Ubuntu installer on it - What file format should I have on it?
[13:29] <Tdude> FAT, FAT32?
[13:29] <moetunes> k
[13:30] <matt__> ok I have a question
[13:30] <maurer_1> chrissharp123: That will also count uninstalled packages with "ii" in the name.
[13:30] <matt__> can every1 see tbhis
[13:30] <matt__> ?
[13:30] <ikonia> they can
[13:30] <Stealth_> yeah matt__
[13:30] <matt__> awesome
[13:30] <matt__> 10.10
[13:30] <chrissharp123> maurer_1: right - I see that yours is better :-)
[13:30] <NickyJ101> uLinus: ok i see
[13:30] <weeman> HardDisk Seagate Barracuda 1tb.  Seatools reports HD passed long test smart status  ok. HDTune pro reports lots of crc uncorrectable errors. ?
[13:30] <erUSUL> Friar: yes; bt uses md4 afaik so should be ok. but using md5sum is quick
[13:30] <matt__> Although its upgradeable , its still a RC??
[13:30] <matt__> is this correct?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> matt__:  no.. its final.
[13:30] <Tdude> It's out from what I understand
[13:30] <Tdude> The final version
[13:30] <NickyJ101> matt_: no it is now full release
[13:30] <chrissharp123> Alan: I installed 10.10 netbook edition without issue - don't know about others
[13:30] <matt__> Ok well when i click on upgrade it comes up witht he following tet.
[13:31] <NickyJ101> matt_: RC should update to release
[13:31] <matt__> /home/matt/Documents
[13:31] <mattcodes> hmmm.. just thinking further... if I go on a trip to vietnam/loas, backup day before and if emergency at work  Ive got partition copied onto something like freecom toughdrive, i could walk right into an internet cafe, boot from USB? without carting laptop around (or worring about keloggers)
[13:31] <chrissharp123> Alan: (via USB drive on its last legs)
[13:31] <matt__> = Welcome to the Ubuntu 'Maverick Meerkat' development release =
[13:31] <matt__> ***
[13:31] <matt__> This is still a RELEASE-CANDIDATE release.
[13:31] <matt__> Do not install it on production machines.
[13:31] <matt__> ***
[13:31] <FloodBot1> matt__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <Alan> chrissharp123: i think the 2nd USB drive i tried just has a really slow write speed, i looked at dmesg and the kernel had barfed saying it was waiting on umount for too long
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> matt__:  your servers are not fully updated perhaps.
[13:31] <mipo> okay 10.10 is installed, but how i get my nvidia gts 8800 working? - i tried it with the current version of the nvidia driver, but the resolution is not high enough -  what could i do? an alternative driver?
[13:31] <Alan> chrissharp123: was probably taking too long to clear the write buffer...
[13:31] <cad383> hey folks, cant someone help me to get my mic working in flash applications?
[13:31] <uLinux> new bug :D http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9505/keyboardlayoutbugmaveri.png
[13:31] <Tdude> Should I download 10.10 or 10.4 LTS?
[13:31] <matt__> ??
[13:31] <NickyJ101> mipo: look on nvidia legacy linux drivers, google search
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  depends on your needs.. may as well try 10.10
[13:32] <Alan> chrissharp123: trying another USB drive now, if it breaks again i'll try the 32-bit ISO, if it breaks again i'll try doing a CD install on my desktop first and using the USB creator from maverick
[13:32] <Fatalis> does anyone know how long it will take for Wubi to support 10.10 ?
[13:32] <matt__> Any ideas?
[13:32] <coz_> Tdude,  well... if you want the Long Term Support  version then use lucid
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> matt__:  your servers are a not fully updated.. give them time
[13:32] <NickyJ101> matt_: ok, are you doing via update manager or terminal command?
[13:32] <matt__> ok
[13:32] <matt__> well
[13:32] <Alan> basically, if it breaks again it's not a problem with my hardware anywhere
[13:32] <mipo> NickyJ101 okay thanks, i wil have a look at that
[13:32] <WXZ> gnome is 2,331 MB
[13:32] <matt__> it says upgrade
[13:32] <mattcodes> running dpkg at 95% on ubuntu 10.04 install.. seems to have stalled? usual? keyboard caps on/off still responsive
[13:32] <chrissharp123> Alan: right
[13:32] <matt__> as an option, but ill leave it for an hour then
[13:32] <brad_> chrissharp123: thanks!  i'll just use the ntfs.  my buddy got me nervous, some stuff about the file attributes not transfering, and i wasn't sure how good the ntfs format was under linux.
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> matt__:  or a day
[13:32] <Tdude> Anyone know if my USB memory stick should have FAT32 or FAT? Im about to format it
[13:32] <matt__> A dauy!
[13:33] <Gryllida> NickyJ101: how long does installing 10.04 take after I downloaded all the packages?
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  fat32 or ntfs normally...
[13:33] <matt__> has anyone else had these release notes?
[13:33] <NickyJ101> matt_: it should change itself after some time, check in an hour, or click check for updates to manually check for updates
[13:33] <chrissharp123> brad_: someone just pointed out to me that it does not preserve permissions - so your buddy is right
[13:33] <Super_Roach> Is there an update available for the netbook version of 10.10 yet? It's not available in the update manager, and apt-get dist-upgrade    finds nothing
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> matt__:  yes. its been mentioned befor in here..
[13:33] <chrissharp123> brad_: however, I've done it multiple times without a problem
[13:33] <matt__> ah k
[13:33] <NickyJ101> Gryllida: 10.04, about half an hour to an hour (depending on os), don't you mean 10.10 though?
[13:33] <Alan> chrissharp123: i should also probably try copying the CD image to a local drive before making the USB drive, might be a bug in doing huge amounts of writes from network FS to USB :|
[13:33] <matt__> my bad
[13:33] <Alan> that would be really annoying though
[13:34] <matt__> thanks for your help anyways
[13:34] <Gryllida> NickyJ101: I mean 10.10, yes
[13:34] <chrissharp123> Alan: it definitely would :-)
[13:34] <brad_> chrissharp123: yeah, i'm sure its fine, thanks again
[13:34] <cad383> hey folks, cant someone help me to get my mic working in flash applications?
[13:34] <thanis> i have problems with running my headset on ubuntu 10.4
[13:34] <NickyJ101> Gryllida: about an hour is normal, if you have a lot a packages (because you have picked up lots of software over the ubuntu years) it can be longer
[13:34] <thanis> it recognizes the hardware but sound comes only from surround not from headset
[13:35] <NickyJ101> cad383: right click on app, go to settings and set from there
[13:35] <Tdude> Has the Universal USB Installer been updated to include 10.10?
[13:35] <Alan> chrissharp123: got an error again...
[13:35] <Gryllida> NickyJ101: I'm upgrading to 10.10 from 10.04, not from scratch, what time could it take?
[13:35] <NickyJ101> thanis: what do you mean headset and surround, your pc has two outputs?
[13:35] <thanis> headset uses only USB and surround uses the regular slot
[13:35] <NickyJ101> Gryllida: about an hour is normal, older pc's and lots of old software make it longer
[13:36] <thanis> Philips surround and Microsoft headset
[13:36] <Alan> chrissharp123: also, installing the beta from USB worked fine using all the same hardware :(
[13:36] <cad383> nickyj101: i have already done this, my mic work with recorders such as audacity but it doesnt works  with flash
[13:36] <NickyJ101> thanis: set outputs from the sound menu
[13:36] <zetheroo1> the servers seem a tad overloaded .. hehe
[13:36] <thanis> where is the sound menu ?
[13:36] <thanis> i dont know the location
[13:36] <NickyJ101> cad383: you are not the first on this irc with this, dca had similar, not sure, forums may have some
[13:36] <hardikar> is it safe to upgrade to 10.10
[13:37] <NickyJ101> thanis: system | Preferences | Sound
[13:37] <Gryllida> hardikar: yes, it's stable now
[13:37] <Fatalis> does anyone know how long it will take for Wubi to support 10.10 ?
[13:37] <Tdude> Should be safe if its final :D
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> hardikar:  always have backups... of course.
[13:37] <Gryllida> Fatalis: #Wubi
[13:37] <Gryllida> ?
[13:37] <hardikar> ok
[13:37] <NickyJ101> hardikar: the 10.10 is the final release
[13:37] <NickyJ101> Fatalis: wubi is on the iso
[13:37] <thanis> i dont have this path
[13:37] <thanis> there is no sound menu in preferences
[13:37] <Fatalis> ah ill try it from iso
[13:37] <NickyJ101> thanis: on the top bar of ubuntu, you should have a sound icon?
[13:38] <NickyJ101> Fatalis: all iso's have wubi, put onto a cd to access
[13:38] <thanis> no i have only calendar time language connection and user managment
[13:38] <Tdude> Anyone know the quality of the translation?
[13:39] <Alan> chrissharp123: i think i have a network issue...
[13:39] <Tdude> Might just settle with the English Ubuntu from the start
[13:39] <Alan> chrissharp123: i just copied the file from my server to my desktop and it has different md5sum...
[13:39] <Kosonome> why when i push turn off computer button, it does logoff?
[13:39] <zetheroo1> would everyone just pause their upgrade for 1 hour so mine can complete :D
[13:39] <NickyJ101> thanis: put this into terminal to load the volume control gnome-volume-control
[13:39] <NickyJ101> zetherool: I know the feeling
[13:40] <NickyJ101> Kosonome: are you pushing power button on pc, or shutdown in ubuntu
[13:40] <hardikar> there is no upgrade button in update-manager!!
[13:40] <Kosonome> nickyj101: shutdown in ubuntu
[13:40] <NickyJ101> hardikar: type in update-manager -d
[13:40] <ChogyDan> hardikar: either try upgrade-manager -c, or torrent the alternate cd
[13:40] <cupis> hardikar, go to the settings in update-manager and allow non-LTS versions, then run update-manager -d
[13:40] <ChogyDan> NickyJ101: it should be -c now
[13:40] <thanis> not correct command
[13:41] <NickyJ101> ChogyDan: ok, think -d still works but will give -c
[13:41] <Tdude> Quick questions
[13:41] <hardikar> cupis: thanks :D
[13:41] <Tdude> Should I run the Ubuntu 10.10 as the RC version on my USB installer thing?
[13:41] <NickyJ101> thanis: you are running Ubuntu 10.10
[13:42] <Khanz1> !update
[13:42] <NickyJ101> Tdude: You should be able to get the full version now, not just the RC
[13:42] <coz_> Tdude,  RC is relsease candidate  you want the release   if I am understanding you
[13:42] <Khanz1> Whats the command to update your ubuntu to latest
[13:42] <Tdude> Yeah but I dont think it is added on the USB installer
[13:42] <thanis> 10.4
[13:42] <Tdude> It says: "Added Xubuntu 10.10 RC, Kubuntu 10.10 RC, and Sugar on a Stick."
[13:42] <NickyJ101> Khanz1: update-manager -c
[13:42] <Tdude> The following on the USB Installer website
[13:43] <Khanz1> Like ditributions
[13:43] <jiohdi> someone told me that if I keep updating... the 10.10 beta becomes the normal 10.10 without any re-installing, true or no?
[13:43] <tarzan> hello. IHow can I have the ALSA traces ?
[13:43] <NickyJ101> thanis: ok, on your desktop, right click and create new launcher, then put as command gnome-volume-control. That should work as that is what I have
[13:43] <Tdude> I can only find the 10.10 RC on the USB Installer list :S
[13:44] <NickyJ101> jiohdi: The RC does yes
[13:44] <cupis> jiohdi, correct, once you just need to do a "normal" update
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  thats how the update system works.
[13:44] <thanis> will try
[13:44] <brad_> can i burn my 700 meg iso onto a dvd instead of a cd?  and boot up from the dvd?
[13:44] <NickyJ101> brad_: yes
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> brad_:  ive had some program not let me burn a cd image  to a dvd disk. You could always make a bootable flash drive
[13:45] <Tdude> Ugh what an annoying problem
[13:45] <Tdude> I don't like problems
[13:45] <D3RGPS31> i check my update manager but i don't have the option to upgrade to 10.10; normal upgrading is set
[13:45] <thanis> no such directory gnome-volume-control
[13:45] <thanis> after making the shortcut
[13:45] <Alan> Ok, there is something seriously wrong with samba mounts on ubuntu lucid...
[13:45] <NickyJ101> Dr_Willis: most programs simply fill up DVD with 0 or stop at 700MB and then finalise disk
[13:45] <cousin_mario> hello
[13:45] <cousin_mario> released yet?
[13:45] <cupis> cousin_mario, yes
[13:46] <cousin_mario> cupis: how do I upgrade from lucid?
[13:46] <NickyJ101> cousin_mario: yes, let us know if you have issues updating
[13:46] <Alan> I have a samba filesystem mounted on this machine, copied an ubuntu ISO, and it got a different md5sum
[13:46] <brad_> dr_willis: my usb key is on the other side of the continent :-), if it lets me burn the iso onto a dvd, i'm set, right?
[13:46] <NickyJ101> cousing_mario: in terminal, update-manager -c
[13:46] <cousin_mario> NickyJ101: ok
[13:46] <Alan> however if i use gvfs (i.e. going to smb://helios/... in nautilus) i get the correct result
[13:46] <AbhiJit> g
[13:46] <anon_> I'm getting an error when upgrading. http://pastebin.com/hShh3yqt This happens during "Installing the packages".
[13:46] <Tdude> Could anyone here answer my question, Im new to this and any change from the plan makes me nervous. On the Universal USB Installer I can only find Ubuntu 10.10 RC on the list but I planon installing the 10.10 final. Will this not work?
[13:46] <anon_> Correction: "Installing the upgrades"
[13:46] <NickyJ101> thanis: you are running ubuntu and not xubuntu or kubuntu
[13:46] <coz_> cousin_mario,   in terminal  update-manager -d
[13:47] <thanis> yes
[13:47] <thanis> ubuntu 10.4
[13:47] <NickyJ101> coz_: Apparently -d replaced now with -c
[13:47] <cupis> Tdude, you can install RC then update
[13:47] <chrissharp123> Alan: assuming you have the official MD5SUM list to compare?
[13:47] <Tdude> Ah
[13:47] <Tdude> Smart
[13:47] <coz_> NickyJ101,  no that doesnt work here and I am on lucid on this system
[13:47] <jiohdi> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-dx-team/une
[13:47] <jiohdi> sudo apt-get update
[13:47] <thanis> i think that this headset microsoft lifechat lx-3000 needs software
[13:47] <cousin_mario> it says it's still release candidate
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  tjhat program proberly has not been updated to point to the Final. You CAN download the final iso file and tell that tool to use that. Or use some OTHER tools to make a bootable flash drive.
[13:47] <NickyJ101> thanis: ok, then I am not too sure, check the forums
[13:47] <Alan> chrissharp123: yes, the first thing i checked before even making a USB installer was that the ISO matched the official MD5SUM
[13:47] <thanis> im not sure it may need software
[13:48] <Tdude> Dr_Willis you think that will work?
[13:48] <NickyJ101> coz_: hmm, okay, well the -d should work until 11.04 starts to get rolling anyway
[13:48] <thanis> didnt checked
[13:48] <Tdude> Ill try
[13:48] <coz_> NickyJ101,  ok understood
[13:48] <chrissharp123> Alan: cool - weird about your samba issue though :-/
[13:48] <GregValheru> is there a away to show trash icon on the desktop instead of having a tiny icon down in the panels bar?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  what? using the final iso.. yes..  that program sould NOT require itself to download the iso.
[13:48] <NickyJ101> coz_: lucid updater anyway has issues, needs to be tolled to update to normal updates, not just LTS
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  You proberly want to get the latest ISO via torrents.. any servers will be very slow at this time
[13:48] <parapan> hi the folks ....how do I find out where are the grub files located ??? or, where it supossed to be located ???
[13:48] <coz_> NickyJ101,  ok
[13:48] <thanis> does microsoft products run on linux properly ?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | parapan
[13:49] <JWebb22> I tried to dual boot windows xp with ubuntu and I keep gettin a file not found error grub rescue message
[13:49] <cousin_mario> GregValheru: yes, you have to tinker with gconf-editor
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> !wine | thanis
[13:49] <Lollipop56> hey guys
[13:49] <jiohdi> thanis: some do through wine
[13:49]  * penguin42 hands Dr_Willis another pack of !'s
[13:49] <Lollipop56> how much more stable is Ubuntu compared to Debian Testing?
[13:49] <staybb> how can i mount a ext4 hdd in a virtual ubuntu on vmwareplayer ?
[13:49] <parapan> Dr_Willis: trust me ...it's much more complicated then reading help ....
[13:49] <NickyJ101> thanis: some work in wine, but generally not natively
[13:49] <jiohdi> thanis: especially most of what will run from thumb drives
[13:49] <chrissharp123> Lollipop56: far more stable
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  you dident really ask a more specific question that i saw...
[13:50] <Alan> chrissharp123: i may have to try and narrow down the problem and submit a bug report about that one...
[13:50] <Tdude> Already managed to download the latest version of Ubuntu Dr_Willis
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  the grub docs detail what the files in /etc/default and /etc/grub.d do.
[13:50] <thanis> thank you all for the answers
[13:50] <GregValheru> cousin_mario, ty, how do i run the gconf-editor?
[13:50] <Kheops> C
[13:50] <ganeshran> finally the speed picked up a bit.. yippee
[13:50] <Lollipop56> chrissharp123, then Canonical does a lotta patches I guess
[13:50] <Kheops> hi
[13:50] <Tdude> But my problem now is that it doesn't find the .iso in the Browse in the Universal USB Installer
[13:50] <Andy80> hi all
[13:50] <NickyJ101> wow, I cannot even download release notes from server now... hahaha
[13:50] <Alan> chrissharp123: i expect that the installer will probably work down, the disk image obviously got corrupted in copying from the server...
[13:50] <chrissharp123> Lollipop56: that is to say that Debian's individual packages are older and tested, the distribution overall can break easily
[13:50] <Tdude> Im starting to think its because its looking for 10.10 RC and only finds 10.10
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  you could try using unetbootin, or some other tool. that Universial USB installer is from that Pendrive Linux web site?
[13:51] <Kheops> this version ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64 It's working for an Quad Core ?
[13:51] <Tdude> Yes Dr_Willis
[13:51] <Kheops> ?
[13:51] <BlueMatt> anyone know why system cpu usage is around 20-30% on an i7 after upgrade to 10.10?
[13:51] <ganeshran> is 10.10 not a LTS version? Is that bad?
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  you could just rename the iso file..  or use a different tool.
[13:51] <Tdude> The one I found on the Ubuntu website installation guide
[13:51] <JWebb22> can someone help me?
[13:51] <Tdude> Smart
[13:51] <bloopletech> I'm upgrading now - server seems to be working fine, giving me 121KB/s right now which is not bad for my connection
[13:51] <maurer_1> Hey, my webcam is supposedly supported by uvcvideo, but does not work under ubuntu. Any ideas on how to approach this?
[13:51] <penguin42> ganeshran: No it's not LTS
[13:51] <Kheops> ?
[13:51] <Tdude> Will try unetbootin
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:   i found that unioversial usb installer tool a little brain dead in many ways
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Tdude:  so either rename the iso.  thats rather easy, or try unetbootin.
[13:52] <maurer_1> ganeshran: That is not bad, unless for some reason (usually due to being a corporation with certain software version requirements) you need to use the same version of ubuntu for multiple years.
[13:52] <penguin42> BlueMatt: My i7 is 98% idle at the moment
[13:52] <Andy80> on my netbook, when I used 10.04, I trasformed my Desktop session in Netbook remix, because I needed customizable traybar. Now I've upgraded to 10.10. The netbook remix interface / session is ok, but I'd like to transform my netbook session to desktop again and I don't have anymore these components to remove: go-home-applet human-netbook-theme maximus netbook-launcher window-picker-applet, how can I remove them?
[13:52] <ganeshran> maurer_1: oh ok cool
[13:52] <Kheops> !help
[13:52] <parapan> Dr_Willis: well ...I have a dualsys ( WinXp + Ubuntu ); 3 x 1TB hdd; the bootable drive is the second one; the linux install is also on the second HDD; I made some partitioning in Windows and now the Grub is corrupted; problem is, Grub is not quite GRUB2 since I have an 9.10 version, upgraded from 9.04 .....bottom line, GRUB is corrupted, and also the MBR ..cannot access windows nor Ubuntu :D
[13:52] <BlueMatt> penguin42: are you on 10.10?
[13:52] <penguin42> BlueMatt: Yep
[13:52] <Kheops> this version ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64 It's working for an Quad Core ??
[13:52] <Tdude> Ill just go ahead and download the RC instead
[13:53] <Tdude> This is troublesome
[13:53] <penguin42> Kheops: Yep, it loves quad cores
[13:53] <Kheops> :)
[13:53] <psyllon> ..
[13:53] <Kheops> thanks
[13:53] <benste> hi, using lucid I've got problems getting my TV connected to my "Nvidia" laptop
[13:53] <penguin42> BlueMatt: If you run top what's using the cpu?
[13:53] <NickyJ101> Tdude: once RC is done, the update there will get the full release anyway
[13:53] <cousin_mario> GregValheru: gconf-editor from the terminal, I don't recall if it's installed by default
[13:53] <Billen> INSTALLATION PROBLEM: This is what I experienced a couple of minutes ago: Eagerly I  downloaded the new release, and installed under Wubi. It rebooted my machine, but no pciture appeared and the monitor tried finding a signal. Meanwhile, my HD5870 fans went haywire. A couple of minutes later it rebooted. Still no picture, so I had tu shut down the computer with my power button. After this, my
[13:53] <Billen> NIC didn't work, in Windows or outside. Funny thing, huh? :D
[13:53] <ganeshran> finally speeds are touching 200Kbps guess everyone upgraded already
[13:53] <NickyJ101> benste: how is your tv connected
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  time to check otut that !fixgrub url and reinstall grub. You may want to upgrade to grub2 if you havent.
[13:53] <kwantakosta> can some one help me out with learning squid
[13:54] <benste> NickyJ101: - only getting grey screen, even if I use Xconf to set PAL-B -- connected via S-Video to Scart
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> kwantakosta:  ive seen numerous squid guides. You have looked for some?
[13:54] <GregValheru> cheers, cousin_mario
[13:54] <benste> NickyJ101: cable and PC is working fine in windows
[13:54] <sarkofag> My update-manager -c don't find 10.10, can I do anything besides wait?
[13:54] <D3RGPS31> any downsides from switching to 64bit? (i7 920, 3GB memory)
[13:54] <parapan> Dr_Willis: yeap ..this is what I should do, but ...I'm running a liveCD now and cannot figure out where I should install GRUB ...
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> D3RGPS31:  ive not seen any.
[13:54] <maurer_1> sarkofag: Run "sudo apt-get update"
[13:54] <maurer_1> Then look at update manager again
[13:54] <NickyJ101> benste: ok, do you have a second screen to run ubuntu on, or perhaps tv can accept VGA?
[13:54] <cupis> sarkofag, run update-manager and change the settings to allow non-LTS versions
[13:54] <sarkofag> maurer_1: done that several times
[13:55] <sarkofag> ok thanks
[13:55] <kwantakosta> i'm new @ ubuntu so need to learn a lot
[13:55] <NickyJ101> sarkofag: another method is to type in update-manager -d
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  for my systems. I keep windows totallty on its own hd.. and linux on its own hd.. (sdb) i install grub to sdb. and tell the bios wht HD to boot. that way I dont have grub on the windows mbr at all.. and windows dont mess with the linux/grub mbr either. :)
[13:55] <ibidu> hi all, does anyone know if there's any suitable alternative for Logmein for Ubuntu, if not are there any alternative routes for remote desktop in Ubuntu?
[13:55] <NickyJ101> kwantakosta: post your issues here
[13:55] <Alan> chrissharp123: http://sc.dev.hexi.co/raw/23/
[13:55] <sarkofag> it found 10.10, many thanks maurer_1 and cupis
[13:56] <Taravel> hi, excluding VirtualBox is there any open source program for desktop virtualization? thank you very much
[13:56] <Alan> chrissharp123: how's that for "oh god it's broken!"
[13:56] <Kheops> penguin42: If I'm trying to install GRUB menu from a ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64 Live CD to an installed ubuntu-9.04-server-i386 It's there a problem ?
[13:56] <benste> NickyJ101: I've used Ubuntu with VGA on 19" screens but not on tvs yet - only way will be S-Video -scart - PAL -- here is my xorg.conf
[13:56] <benste> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510064/
[13:56] <NickyJ101> Taravel: not sure, but virtualbox is pretty good
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> Taravel:  qemu i belive.
[13:56] <coz_> ibidu,  just googled that using this string    ubuntu alternative for logmein
[13:56] <chrissharp123> Alan: that's pretty broken :-)
[13:56] <penguin42> Kheops: It might be, I can't remember when it switched over from Grub1 to Grub2, I suspect 9.04 is Grub1
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> !manual | kwantakosta
[13:56] <Kheops> penguin42: yes
[13:57] <Tdude> Thanks Dr_Willis I think the UNetbootin device is working better
[13:57] <Billen> short story: Ubuntu 10.10 fried my NIC :D
[13:57] <Tdude> Making me USB booter now
[13:57] <BlueMatt> penguin42: nothing its just system usage, so no individual process
[13:57] <Alan> chrissharp123: :(
[13:57] <cousin_mario> Billen: they come cheap these days:)
[13:57] <penguin42> BlueMatt: That's odd for it to be that high
[13:57] <Univ> is there any known problem displaying accented chars in 10.10 ? accents are displayed, but not at the right place...
[13:57] <BlueMatt> a
[13:57] <NickyJ101> benste: I'm not too sure, I think you need to set-up your config file, but that not really anything i know about. I spent two hours trying to get nvidia x server installed
[13:57] <benste> NickyJ101: guess I'm right I can't change this via GUI ?
[13:57] <Kheops> penguin42: so I will use an Old version of LIVE Cd ?
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> kwantakosta:  if you are new to linux. why are you even messing with squid? learn some linux basics first. then work on squid
[13:57] <Billen> cousin_mario: Yeah, I am so eager to try it again. Maybe I can risk my gfx aswell? :D
[13:57] <kwantakosta> thx will search for it
[13:57] <LordDeath> I can't uninstall the b43 wifi driver in ubuntu 10.10 :(
[13:57] <penguin42> Kheops: If you're just trying to repair Grub then probably best to use an older one
[13:57] <NickyJ101> benste: feeling is no, but look around as someone else may be able to help
[13:58] <Kheops> penguin42: Like 6.06 I have this :)
[13:58] <rotem925> hello expert, any i ddea why i get this in 10.04 when entering a command in bash? getcwd() failed: No such file or directory
[13:58] <penguin42> Kheops: Well that should be in a museum
[13:58] <cousin_mario> LordDeath: you probably have to remove the firmware if you want it to stop working
[13:58] <Kheops> penguin42: It's original stuff :))
[13:58] <penguin42> rotem925: Are you in a directory you deleted?
[13:58] <kwantakosta> the reason is that i am crw member of big lan party and the regular guy isn't able to join
[13:58] <benste> anyone else here experienced with the Nvidia restricted driver + S-video + PAL standard ?
[13:58] <rotem925> penguin42:  hell yea :)
[13:58] <Kruptein> Hey I can't open the software center from the menu?
[13:58] <rotem925> penguin42:  thanks!!
[13:58] <LordDeath> cousin_mario: thx, I will search for that
[13:58] <parapan> Dr_Willis: Sounds the best way to handle things ...However now I must try to recover things ...problem is I am not sure how to handle this ...so ..my first question is .........Where GRUB has the files, because I try to run sudo grub .....and I get the error command not found ... ....
[13:59] <Kheops> penguin42: but this It's Desktop version It will mount the boot on a Server Version ?
[13:59] <kwantakosta> so need to learn how to set it up
[13:59] <Kruptein> if I run: software-center in the terminal I get an error about a file that can't be opened
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> Kruptein:  try running it from a terminal. I had a issue where some log file got protected/owned by wrokg person. and i had to delete it - befor it would start up
[13:59] <Billen> anyone running ubuntu 10.10 with success using a HD5870 graphics card?
[13:59] <penguin42> Kheops: Should yes, but hey just explain what you're trying to do
[13:59] <mohraibat> is there a way to check for defects in the 10.10 disk before booting it  ??????
[13:59] <Kheops> penguin42: Just to have boot menu and choose what OS to boot.
[13:59] <Kruptein> Dr_Willis see my post
[13:59] <benste> mohraibat: use the menu (get it with ESC)
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> parapan:   the command for reinstalling grub is 'update-grub' but i dont think grub is on the live cd. you would need to chroot into the installed system
[14:00] <maurer_1> I have a webcam which uvcvideo claims to support, but which does not work under ubuntu. Ideas?
[14:00] <penguin42> Kheops: Yeh if you just need to reinstall Grub that should be OK I think; I'd take a copy of /boot from the partiton you want to boot first
[14:00] <Kheops> penguin42: I have a Server version and Micro$oft Installed.
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> Kruptein:  and whats the files name/path?
[14:00] <mohraibat> benste: i cant my laptop screen is broken so i use an ex monitor and it doesnt show up
[14:00] <Kheops> penguin42: how I can access that partition ? :)))
[14:00] <Kruptein> Dr_Willis: this is the output http://dpaste.com/255855/
[14:00] <algnod> hi all, is upgrading netbook edition via the alternate cd a valid option? or do I get a desktop system installed? is there more difference between une and desktop besides unity?
[14:01] <penguin42> Kheops: Lets go back; how did you get to this point?
[14:01] <anon_> How do I fix this: "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend x11-common for x11-xkb-utils, probably a dependency cycle."
[14:01] <parapan> Dr_Willis: So basically I need to mount the partition of the original system correct ???
[14:01] <penguin42> algnod: I think netbook is just a different mix of packages
[14:01] <Kheops> penguin42: Resizeing -> Delete Swap -> Installed Windows 7 :)
[14:02] <algnod> penguin42 so its ok to user alternate?
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  yes.
[14:02] <Kheops> penguin42: now 2 partition used by Win and 2 by Ubuntu Server.
[14:02] <penguin42> Kheops: Ah OK, so I would boot off a CD of about the right vintage, mount /boot into a temporary directory and then reinstall grub, but I suspect there will need to be some fixing up
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> Kruptein:  looks like a differnt error then what i had.
[14:02] <penguin42> algnod: Probably
[14:03] <Kheops> penguin42: what fixing up ? :)
[14:03] <algnod> penguin42 probably :-) or will I be missing important packages? where would it be best to ask? thanks
[14:03] <penguin42> Kheops: I'm not sure, good feeling it won't be totally smooth
[14:04] <Kheops> penguin42: It's because I delete the swap ? :)
[14:04] <penguin42> algnod: I suspect the alternate won't have the new version of the netbook pacakges on
[14:04] <DyingDawn> hi
[14:04] <algnod> penguin42 thanks for your help
[14:04] <DyingDawn> einen frohen Erdmännchen-Tag euch allen! ;-)
[14:04] <ubuntu_> has anyone else had problems installing
[14:04] <ubuntu_> 10.10
[14:05] <DyingDawn> no, not yet
[14:05] <parapan> Dr_Willis: mounted the linux partition into /media folder ....cd /boot/grub ...tryed sudo grub ....the same error
[14:05] <penguin42> ubuntu_: Some people have, most people haven't - now what's your problem with it?
[14:05] <ubuntu_> Its weird its stuck as soon as i push forward
[14:05] <penguin42> forward?
[14:05] <LordDeath> now i am trying to delete the "firmware-b43-installer" with synaptic
[14:05] <LordDeath> but it takes really long for a 40kb package
[14:05] <Kurdistan> anybody have any idea how to fix mouse
[14:06] <Kurdistan> doesnt work
[14:06] <DyingDawn> just a question: what is the best way to use the notification tool for thunderbird? Do I have to have firefox opened all the time?
[14:06] <[cdr]> I have 10.10 RC, is there anything I have to do to upgrade to 10.10 final? I don't see any updates in Update Manager.
[14:06] <jrib> [cdr]: just run regular updates
[14:07] <ubuntu_> penguin42, It stays on prepairing to install ubuntu...doesnt move...You think i should delete my partitions and start over
[14:07] <tensorpudding> !final | [cdr]
[14:07] <Extremedevilz> Hi guys I am installing ubuntu it kinda stuck saying ready when you when installing ubuntu 10.10
[14:07] <[cdr]> I haven't seen any updates in 24 hours, does that mean I already have final?
[14:07] <tensorpudding> oh hey, they updated
[14:07] <jrib> [cdr]: yes
[14:07] <penguin42> ubuntu_: If you can try again it's probably worth it - but that shouldn't happen; I'd check the CD burn is OK
[14:07] <tensorpudding> but if you're running RC you already have the final release
[14:07] <tensorpudding> modulo a couple of updates
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  you have to learn about 'chrooting'
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | parapan
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  you are skipping a lot of little steps.
[14:08] <Low_enduser> !vbox
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  and ce /boot/grub is the grub direcotry on your booted system. not the mounted system
[14:09] <Kosonome> hello people, how can i change font size in ubuntu? i think its kinda big here :)
[14:09] <parapan> Dr_Willis: quick help for chroot ???
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  You need to read the grub docs on restoreing/reinstalling grub. theres lots of little things to watch out for. but its not too hard.
[14:10] <LordDeath> now the synaptic console hangs while deleting the config-files from this b43 package :(
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> parapan:   You need to mount /dev/ and a few other things to the proper location, befor you chroot. - actually the 10,10 cd has a recovery mode that can fix it also i think
[14:10] <coz_> parapan,   here is a good how to on grub   http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[14:10] <parapan> Dr_Willis: That's why I am asking ..all tutorials for fixing groob are saying ....run a liveCD ...open a terminal, go to grub directory and run sudo grub ...this is the first step ...but my problem is a little bit more complex ...
[14:10] <morose7> I plug in my headphones and or speakers in Ubuntu 10.10, it mutes my speaker, but I hear no sound from the headphones or speakers?
[14:11] <LordDeath> now it worked :)
[14:11] <Low_enduser> !resolution
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  i belive they mention more steps then that..
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  of course most of the ones i know fo these days are for grub2. I dont use grub1 any more.
[14:11] <DyingDawn> in ordner to use the thunderbird notification-tool, do I have to have thunderbird running in the backgroud all the time?
[14:12] <pr0xy> Why cant I use the CD for Maverick Meerkat?
[14:12] <parapan> coz_: I'm checking that out ...seems to be at very basic level ..thank you ...
[14:12] <dadrc> I'm trying to write a udev rule for my logitech headset, the one I've got works with udevadm test (see http://pastey.net/141380), but doesn't do anything with the real thing... any hints?
[14:13] <Extremedevilz> Guyz i am installing ubuntu but now it. Is saying ready when you are what is that
[14:14] <chrissharp123> Extremedevilz: it stops at the point where you need to enter your user information
[14:14] <pr0xy> If I put the Maverick disk into the CD/DVD tray, close it and start up my computer to boot from the disk, I get a bunch of weird colored rectangles.
[14:14] <LordDeath> is fglrx already compatible with ubuntu 10.10?
[14:15] <crimsonmane> i'm still trying to stabalize my WUSB600N :(
[14:15] <Extremedevilz> I already did
[14:15] <coz_> pr0xy,  each time?
[14:15] <penguin42> LordDeath: I think so
[14:15] <bloopletech> penguin42, LordDeath I've heard conflicting things
[14:15] <g2avityhitz> .
[14:15] <bloopletech> I'm actually going to go with the radeon drivers now they have working r800 series support
[14:15] <parapan> Dr_Willis: coz_ : OK, ok ...I'm figuring something out ...in order to access the real installation, first the drive itself has to be mounted into the liveCD instance ....
[14:15] <LFC_fan> depends on the card actually
[14:16] <mrpresto> I today installed Ubuntu 10.10 Beta on my Thinkpad. After the installation I rebooted and entered my WLAN password (Belkin mode N router, WPA2 secured) and everything worked "fine". I did all updates to make the beta into the full version and restarted - now I can't connect to the Wlan anymore. Is this a known bug? I only reccently switched to a linux distribution so I am a beginner
[14:16] <Extremedevilz> M
[14:16] <jason2345> i need to know how to install  flashplayer 9 on ubuntu 10.04
[14:16] <pr0xy> coz_ I tried it with the RC disk for weeks. and I tried it with the full release that launched today.
[14:16] <Nepherius> uhm ..what desktop manager dose 10.10 have ?
[14:16] <penguin42> jason2345: Why 9 in particular?
[14:16] <LordDeath> unfortunately the GUI to install proprietary hardware drivers doesn't show any version numbers.
[14:16] <ganeshran> mrpresto: is your wlan card detected?
[14:16] <Extremedevilz> Help me please
[14:16] <coz_> pr0xy,  mm and you had the same strange thing happen ?
[14:16] <jason2345> because flash 10=fail big time
[14:17] <mrpresto> ganeshran: yes I see my wlan network and some others from the building
[14:17] <coz_> pr0xy,   and this doesnt happen on lucid  ...yes?
[14:17] <penguin42> jason2345: Hmm not sure then, I know that I would use flashplugin-installer to install the current one, if you have one of Adobe's tar's of flash 9 then it may work on 10.04 but I wouldn't bet on it
[14:17] <crimsonmane> mrpresto yes its a known issue with wireless N that's what iv'e been dealing with all week
[14:17] <pr0xy> coz_ it doesn't happen with lucid. and it didn't happen with fedora before I switched to Ubuntu.
[14:18] <jason2345> flash 10 sucks
[14:18] <jason2345> its buggy as crap
[14:18] <jason2345> :(
[14:18] <LFC_fan> well
[14:18] <bert31wvl> anyone familiar with SIM/SMS tools on linux/ubuntu?
[14:18] <mrpresto> crimsonmame: is there any workaround or temporary fix?
[14:18] <LFC_fan> Flash sucks as it is
[14:18] <sasori2501> having a hell of a time finding the ktorrent executable, anyone know where it is???? thanks!
[14:18] <LFC_fan> use HTML5 with youtube
[14:18] <bert31wvl> I want to read deleted sms messages from a phone
[14:18] <LFC_fan> no need of Flash :)
[14:18] <crimsonmane> mrpresto you just gotta try each and every method you can find from googling.... :(
[14:18] <coz_> pr0xy,  mm  ok ...  which video card is on this system?
[14:18] <dadrc> sasori2501: which ktorrent
[14:19] <crimsonmane> i havent found my right one yet, and your solution will be different than mine
[14:19] <jason2345> i find out how
[14:19] <jason2345> bye
[14:19] <Extremedevilz> It is display ubuntu cron
[14:19] <six66> hay Im using fluxbox and thunaar file manager does not open my other patitions in the harddrive .. why is that ?
[14:19] <crimsonmane> i'm probably going to buy a new fully compatible wireless card or run a cable :( linux really sux when it comes to this area
[14:19] <BluesKaj> sasori2501, look in /usr/bin
[14:20] <nobarking> hey
[14:20] <nobarking> does anyone know what the situation is with 64bit Adobe Flash in Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick?
[14:20] <mrpresto> crimsonmane: well thanks for the heads up. i can't use a wired connection because of the room layout. in that case i will do some more research and if i don't find any solution just continue with win7 :(
[14:20] <nobarking> does it still use the 32bit wrapper?
[14:20] <penguin42> nobarking: It doesn't automatically install using flashplugin-installer
[14:20] <LFC_fan> adobe has dropped support for 64 bit flash
[14:20] <POVaddct> crimsonmane: don't blame linux for the manufacturers not releasing specs
[14:20] <TopGear> Hi
[14:20] <penguin42> nobarking: The flashplugin-installer still uses the 32bit + wrapper
[14:20] <LFC_fan> ubuntu uses 32 bit plugin with nspluginweapper
[14:20] <penguin42> LFC_fan: No, it's back!
[14:21] <nobarking> LFC_fan: not true, adobe recently released 64bit
[14:21] <LFC_fan> nobarking: did they?
[14:21] <TopGear> I can't get into my qnap ts 209 pro.
[14:21] <six66> hay Im using fluxbox and thunaar file manager does not open my other patitions in the harddrive .. why is that ?
[14:21] <crimsonmane> pov they released specs for my WUSB600N
[14:21] <TopGear> I tried to mount it, but I got an error
[14:21] <A_New_Server> Where are the fonts located?
[14:21] <POVaddct> crimsonmane: really? which chipset?
[14:21] <crimsonmane> but i'm bound and determined to use linux and eff windows
[14:21] <crimsonmane> 2800 chipset
[14:21] <ganeshran> ooh my download is done
[14:21] <crimsonmane> ralink
[14:21] <dadrc> LFC_fan: yeah, check out http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer_square_p2_64bit_linux_092710.tar.gz
[14:21] <nobarking> LFC_fan: yup it's called Adobe Flash BOX or something, it's still beta but updated supports all OS
[14:21] <nobarking> square*
[14:21] <LFC_fan> ok
[14:21] <ganeshran> how much time does it take to install
[14:21] <LFC_fan> that's nice
[14:21] <etzerd> hello all
[14:21] <pr0xy> coz_ I have a GT240
[14:22] <TopGear> sudo mount -t nfs IPQNAP:/Qmultimedia /mnt/Qmultimedia resulted in: mount.nfs: mount system call failed
[14:22] <TopGear> and SMB can't reach it, don't know why actually. no errors
[14:22] <mrpresto> What I don't get is my Intel 5300 AGBN card worked while testing Ubuntu and after the first reboot. Just after updating from Beta to final release it stopped working
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> six66:  you will need to mount them some how. since I dont think thunar has  that feature.
[14:22] <six66> damn
[14:23] <penguin42> mrpresto: Is your AP on 2.x or 5.x GHz ?
[14:23] <coz_> pr0xy,   ok then ...unless the video card has recently died...there should be no issue... i would redownload the cd ... check md5sum and burn it again at 1x if possible
[14:23] <crimsonmane> POVaddct: do you think you could look around and see if you can find a solution for my WUSB600 not being stable? its slower than molasses and disconnects constantly
[14:23] <POVaddct> crimsonmane: hmm, the older ralink chips work quiet well. is the 2800 only supported by a staging driver or by the rt2xxx-based?
[14:23] <david> hello
[14:23] <anon_> How do I fix this: "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend x11-common for x11-xkb-utils, probably a dependency cycle."
[14:23] <pr0xy> coz_ I burned it to a DVD, is that a problem?
[14:23] <penguin42> mrpresto: I did see something about a problem with the Intel firmware in 'n' mode that was being worked with Intel
[14:23] <crimsonmane> well POVaddct the actual driver is RT2800 that linux is using
[14:24] <etzerd> when ubuntu 10.10 will be release?
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> etzerd:  a few hrs ago....
[14:24] <penguin42> etzerd: It is released
[14:24] <LordDeath> is it true that ubuntu 10.10 now supports multitouch gestures?
[14:24] <coz_> pr0xy,  no it shouldnt be a problem at all... however  it could have burned corrupted
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> LordDeath:  its supposed to bne a new feature..
[14:24] <mrpresto> penguin42: I don't know - there is no option in the Belkin router
[14:24] <erUSUL> anon_: try « sudo dpkg --reconfigure x11-xkb-utils »
[14:24] <coz_> pr0xy,  so download again...check md5sum on the iso image  then burn it again at 1x
[14:24] <POVaddct> crimsonmane: yeah, but is the vendor supplied driver (not using the mac80211 stack)?
[14:24] <penguin42> mrpresto: Is there an option for 'n' mode?
[14:24] <LordDeath> Dr_Willis: any idea where is already works?
[14:24] <TopGear> someone who's got an idea?
[14:25] <etzerd> I installed the RC already, should I reinstall the final release again or just update?
[14:25] <LordDeath> I have a multitouch n-trig panel here
[14:25] <penguin42> etzerd: Just update
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> LordDeath:  nope. I have no such devices.. and when ive tried the feture on other laptops in windows - i found it useless..
[14:25] <etzerd> thanks
[14:25] <mrpresto> penguin42: Yes I set it to "n" only since everything else in my home has wired connections
[14:25] <pr0xy> coz_ how do I check md5um of an ISO on a mac/
[14:25] <crimsonmane> no, linux generic w/e... i tried to use the file off the USB's cd but that didnt seem to change anything
[14:25] <penguin42> mrpresto: Try turning it off n
[14:25] <LordDeath> Dr_Willis: then you newer used onenote in windows ;-)
[14:25] <coz_> pr0xy,   when the iso is finished downloading  open a terminal   cd to the iso' s  location and run   md5sum nameof.iso
[14:26] <anon_> erUSUL, I get this message: "dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure"
[14:26] <coz_> pr0xy,  let me get the link for the hashes hold on
[14:26] <erUSUL> pr0xy: i expect MacOSX to have md5sum command
[14:26] <erUSUL> anon_: is --configure sorry
[14:26] <Guest9685> anyone know any good backrounds
[14:26] <mrpresto> penguin42: Even if that works that is only an emergency option - after all I don't want to limit my internet connection because of hardware and software development failures
[14:26] <erUSUL> pr0xy: it is an UNIX (tm) after all ;P
[14:26] <coz_> pr0xy,   ok go here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes   and look for the proper has code  ooo wait... no maverick on there
[14:26] <penguin42> mrpresto: Yeh I agree; they're working with Intel to fix it; see bug 630748
[14:26] <aeon-ltd> Guest9685: its all up to taste, but check out the screenshots part of the ubuntu forums
[14:27] <coz_> pr0xy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[14:27] <Voldenet> Hello, is there official mirror list for ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso?
[14:27] <Guest9685> do you know of any good backrounds
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> !mirrors | Voldenet
[14:27] <crimsonmane> POVaddct: sorry i forget to use pplz names... no, linux generic w/e... i tried to use the file off the USB's cd but that didnt seem to change anything
[14:27] <ervis> hi all
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> Voldenet:  its best to use the torrents at thsi time
[14:27] <coz_> anyone have the hashes for maverick?
[14:27] <anon_> erUSUL, now I get this :p http://pastebin.com/3nSSVRp1
[14:27] <pr0xy> coz_ I don't see maverick there
[14:27] <g2avityhitz> n00b here. how do i add a new server and port number?
[14:27] <anon_> erUSUL, thanks for helping me btw.
[14:28] <SwedeMike> the torrents should be fine, I'm not seeing a lot of outbound traffic on them, seems to be pretty stable around 10 megabytes/s
[14:28] <coz_> pr0xy,  right I am looking for those hold on
[14:28] <mrpresto> penguin42: Well my old Intel 5100 card was also a real problem with Ubuntu 10.04 and the network manager was unable to show prober speeds and I had a stalled internet connection every second day so my confidence in a fixed bug is rather small for now
[14:28] <n8ofsp8ds> hey guys whats the generic number 10.10 final
[14:28] <ervis> im having problems downloading packeges to slow only 20kb/s
[14:29] <coz_> pr0xy,    http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/maverick/release/MD5SUMS
[14:29] <Kruptein> why is CTRL+ALT+D changed to Super+D ?  was it for new-ubuntu'ers that come from windows?
[14:29] <coz_> pr0xy,  when you run   md5sum nameof.iso    depending on which arch  you use  those numbers should match
[14:29] <crimsonmane> what does super D do ?
[14:30] <n8ofsp8ds> hey guys whats the generic number 10.10 final
[14:30] <coz_> crimsonmane,  on the desktp? here it opens the menu for the logoff  restart shutdown menu from the panel
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> n8ofsp8ds:  clarify what you mean...
[14:30] <ervis> im having problems downloading packeges to slow only 20kb/s
[14:31] <hid3> Anyone already have a freshly installed 10.10? Could you pastebin how the sources.list file looks like?
[14:31] <parapan> Dr_Willis: root@ubuntu:/# apt-get install grub-pc Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation
[14:31] <coz_> n8ofsp8ds,   10th day  10th month if that is what you m ean
[14:31] <n8ofsp8ds> like rc 2.6.35.22
[14:31] <n8ofsp8ds> whats the final
[14:31] <sslither2010> Quick question if someone has a minute, is it better to upgrade to 10.10 through the update-managed -d, or download the new Distro
[14:32] <parapan> Dr_Willis: The following packages have unmet dependencies:   grub-pc: Depends: grub-common (= 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4.1) but 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu5 is to be installed E: Broken packages
[14:32] <cupis> sslither2010, update-manager is fine
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> parapan:   you may need to 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then try installing that.. ive never had to install grub2. ive always had it by default on my clean installs.
[14:32] <magnetron> sslither2010: it's usually faster to torrent the alternate CD and upgrade from that
[14:32] <sslither2010> thank you
[14:32] <sanguisdex> is it possible to add multiple pont points to one partition?
[14:33] <erUSUL> anon_: so is already everything done but there where errors ? maybe reinstalling or removing installing ?
[14:33] <sasori2501> BluesKaj: Thank you!  perfect advice, as always.  how i forgot that... not sure.  lol.  thanks mate!
[14:33] <hid3> ervis: do you have a freshly installed 10.10?
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> sanguisdex:  yes. Or you could set up soft links to make it show in other locations..
[14:33] <KeithWeisshar> i'm having an issue with ubuntu 10.10 on my system, it boots into command prompt only from the live cd
[14:33] <erUSUL> sasori2501: or use mount --bind
[14:33] <coz_> pr0xy,  of course   "nameof.iso"  means the name of the iso you downloded :)  just in case that wasnt clear
[14:33] <penguin42> KeithWeisshar: What does it say before the prompt?
[14:33] <crimsonmane> can anyone point me to a "working" fix to "Linksys WUSB600N" having slow, unreliable, constantly disconnecting, when it disconnects i have to disable networking then reenable networking...
[14:33] <KeithWeisshar> i have a nvidia geforce gtx 470 video card
[14:33] <pr0xy> coz_ I know.
[14:33] <Kruptein> @crimsonmane and coz_   with the new maverick update super-D hides/shows my desktop while it in the past always was ctrl+alt+d
[14:33] <coz_> pr0xy,  no offense meant  :)
[14:33] <Kruptein> it has been windows-copied?
[14:34] <parapan> Dr_Willis: nope, it's not working ....sounds like I'll have to re-install the system or so ....:((
[14:34] <pr0xy> coz_ it's cool. 8 minutes left on download
[14:34] <coz_> pr0xy,  cool
[14:34] <sanguisdex>  want to have my current /home partition become my home var and tmp is there any danger to that, that you can think of?
[14:34] <ervis> hid3, im trying to upgrade from 04 to 10
[14:34] <ervis> but to slow
[14:35] <KeithWeisshar> ubuntu runs fine on virtualbox but only boots to command prompt on my real system
[14:35] <Pr070cal> hi im unable to install nvidia drivers timesout
[14:35] <defrysk> congrats to everyone involved with 1010, nice job!
[14:35] <pr0xy> ervis, patience.
[14:35] <ikonia> ervis: it's release day, a lot of people are using the servers
[14:35] <cupis> ervis, be patient :)
[14:35] <crimsonmane> can anyone point me to a "working" fix to "Linksys WUSB600N" having slow, unreliable, constantly disconnecting, when it disconnects i have to disable networking then reenable networking...
[14:35] <anon_> erUSUL, how exactly do I remove installing? Is there a command for it? I'm sorry I'm a noob.
[14:35] <pr0xy> ervis, burn a CD?
[14:35] <erUSUL> anon_: sudo apt-get --reinstall install x11-xkb-utils
[14:36] <Moonlit> http://s2.kimag.es/share/77040495.png
[14:36] <Moonlit> how do I fix... that entire screenshot?
[14:36] <Pr070cal> tried update manager > Requires installation of untrusted packages
[14:36] <ervis> i have download full distro but i like to upgrade next week i will do fresh install
[14:36] <Leapo> Moonlit: Wow, that's...hideously ugly.
[14:36] <sylvain_> coucou
[14:36] <Moonlit> Leapo - no kidding, right?
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  its proberly fixable.. if you spend the time.. but it may be a better fix to just do a clean install.
[14:37] <pr0xy> ervis If you're updating, then you might get disconnected which may break your lucid. if you make a cd then you won't lose any stuff badly.
[14:37] <Leapo> That titlebar is _way_ too big. Is it like that by default? O_o
[14:37] <sylvain_> join #coucou
[14:37] <pr0xy> moonlit wtf happened there?
[14:37] <Moonlit> Leapo - I think it happened when I changed the font size... except with the default font it looks normal, because it's so big
[14:37] <n8w> ive got 10.10 RC but the kpackagekit doesnt give me any option to upgrade to the final version
[14:37] <KeithWeisshar> all i get is a welcome to ubuntu and then a command prompt
[14:38] <Pr070cal> how do i fix Requires installation of untrusted packages ?
[14:38] <Leapo> Any way to even out the spacing here, or am I stuck with an eyesore as well?: http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1163/12467618.jpg
[14:38] <Moonlit> pr0xy - well, I like to make my Linux installs kinda minimal, I changed the font and size down, but I can't make the UI smaller to match it :/
[14:38] <hidekazu2> !isitout
[14:38] <hidekazu2> wow !
[14:38] <coz_> n8w,   I believe the RC  is most likely the release
[14:38] <Newbuntu> Hi I'm new to ubuntu I was planning on putting it into virtual box but I'm not sure how to make it look visually appealing
[14:38] <anon_> erUSUL, I tried upgrading to 10.10 but I still get the same error...
[14:38] <anon_> erUSUL, maybe I should wait a couple of days so this gets fixed
[14:38] <ikonia> Newbuntu: experiment
[14:38] <Moonlit> Newbuntu - you too, huh? we were just talking about that
[14:38] <KeithWeisshar> is a gtx 470 an unsupported video card
[14:38] <pr0xy> moonlit what did you use to make it smallish?
[14:38] <crimsonmane> can anyone point me to a "working" fix to "Linksys WUSB600N" having slow, unreliable, constantly disconnecting, when it disconnects i have to disable networking then reenable networking...
[14:39] <erUSUL> anon_: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[14:39] <Moonlit> pr0xy - all I did was change the font and font size, the rest is all default (except the wallpaper)
[14:39] <Moonlit> pr0xy - I sorta expected the rest of the UI to shrink with it, but it didn't
[14:39] <Moonlit> and I can't even make the panel there any smaller
[14:39] <RibPreto-Brasil> i'd like to make a reclamation, i cant download new ubuntu 10.10 because the 'enhanced' page takes me for an idiot who can download only by clicking, and i cant see the url to use with wget.
[14:40] <Moonlit> the properties dialog won't let me
[14:40] <defrysk> isnt the normal panel size 24 ?
[14:40] <ervis> pr0xy, ii have write something in private
[14:40] <pr0xy> I know, ervis.
[14:40] <Leapo> Moonlit: Try switching to Clearlooks. I think the default theme might be as broken as it is ugly.
[14:40] <Moonlit> defrysk - not sure
[14:40] <DyingDawn> do i have to have thunderbird running in order to use the notification-tool for the panel?
[14:40] <Moonlit> Leapo - alright, lemme try, one sec
[14:40] <Moonlit> Leapo - HOLY OUCH MY EYES
[14:40] <Leapo> O-o
[14:41] <erUSUL> RibPreto-Brasil: http://br.releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/
[14:41] <Leapo> What happened?
[14:41] <defrysk> Moonlit, also check howmany dpi your screen is
[14:41] <Super_Roach> Is there an update available for the netbook version of 10.10 yet? It's not available in the update manager, and apt-get dist-upgrade    finds nothing
[14:41] <Moonlit> Leapo - lol, that didn't help, it's still hideously oversized, only now it's old looking and bright grey too
[14:41] <RibPreto-Brasil> erUSUL Tks!
[14:41] <Moonlit> defrysk - where do I find that info in Ubuntu?
[14:41] <defrysk> Moonlit, snould be 96 probably
[14:41] <erUSUL> Super_Roach: maybe you have to enable normal updates in Software sources?
[14:41] <Leapo> Moonlit: How did you manage that? I can't get it to explode like that XD
[14:41] <defrysk> Moonlit, in appearance, fonts , details
[14:42] <Moonlit> huh, I never even knew that was there
[14:42] <Moonlit> it is on 96 though
[14:42] <defrysk> Moonlit, trij smaller and see what happens
[14:42] <defrysk> try
[14:42] <tranqui> is maverick out yet?
[14:43] <defrysk> tranqui, topic
[14:43] <penguin42> yep
[14:43] <erUSUL> tranqui: yes; see topic
[14:43] <AbhiJit> tranqui, read the cahnnel topic
[14:43] <tranqui> silly me
[14:43] <AbhiJit> :/
[14:43] <Moonlit> defrysk - hm, I tried smaller, it just shrinks the fonts and the window titlebars, not the rest of the UI
[14:43] <camason> hi guys. Does anyone know of a good Windows NFS client?
[14:43] <Moonlit> bigger makes it worse
[14:43] <cousin_mario> how do you edit the background picture on gdm now that gdm2setup is not available on maverick?
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> cousin_mario:  i just edit the default image.
[14:44] <cousin_mario> Dr_Willis: where from?
[14:44] <erUSUL> camason: the one that comes in SFU ?
[14:44] <Newbuntu_> k I'm back
[14:44] <KeithWeisshar> why does ubuntu 10.10 boot from live cd into command line only?
[14:45] <KeithWeisshar> how do i fix it
[14:45] <Moonlit> ok, I set it to 72dpi, I don't think it worked, but I'm rebooting to check
[14:45] <Newbuntu_> so u can download the ubuntu image file from the main site right?
[14:45] <defrysk> Moonlit, good luck
[14:45] <cupis> KeithWeisshar, netbook version? or desktop/server?
[14:45] <KeithWeisshar> desktop
[14:45] <Moonlit> ty defrysk
[14:45] <Moonlit> lol
[14:45] <crimsonmane> can anyone point me to a "working" fix to "Linksys WUSB600N" having slow, unreliable, constantly disconnecting, when it disconnects i have to disable networking then reenable networking...
[14:45] <cupis> KeithWeisshar, hmm, desktop version booted fine here from CD, but I had the same issue from an old USB stick
[14:45] <Moonlit> it looks the same, only smaller
[14:46] <Gryllida> updating from 10.04 to 10.10. the thing is stuck at the 'setting samba-common' step. no cpu activity. an error message follows. anything i can do except for close the update window and start over?
[14:46] <KeithWeisshar> i'm using the desktop 64-bit cd
[14:46] <Gryllida> GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3081: signal name `depressed' is invalid for instance `0xa6466e0' at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 120, <GEN6> line 15.
[14:46] <cupis> I put it down to dodgy media
[14:46] <LaraX> hi Gryllida :)
[14:46] <KeithWeisshar> i have a gtx 470 video card
[14:46] <Newbuntu_> pm me if u know how to optimize visual settings in ubuntu
[14:46] <Moonlit> http://s2.kimag.es/share/53133414.png < fail :P
[14:46] <MartyMcFly> How can i add a 32bit Third-Party Repository to my 64bit Ubuntu?
[14:46] <Gryllida> LaraX: hi
[14:46] <erUSUL> MartyMcFly: you don't. find 64 bit versions
[14:46] <KeithWeisshar> does anyone have any of the gtx 400 series video card
[14:47] <camason> I'll look up this services for unix
[14:47] <KeithWeisshar> all i get is a command line instead of gnome
[14:47] <erUSUL> KeithWeisshar: maybe you installed the server version ?
[14:47] <MartyMcFly> erUSUL: :(
[14:47] <MartyMcFly> erUSUL: There are none.
[14:47] <MrRoboto> has anyone managed to get ezcap video capture device to work under ubuntu?
[14:47] <erUSUL> MartyMcFly: what program ?
[14:48] <MartyMcFly> erUSUL: I want to add the backtrack-repos
[14:48] <erUSUL> MartyMcFly: what for?
[14:48] <ojii> happy 42 day everyone!
[14:48] <tranqui> KeithWeisshar: can you start gnome from command line?
[14:48] <Pr070cal> anyone having problems downloading nvidia drivers
[14:48] <ojii> I want to upgrade to 10.10 (from 10.04) but the upgrade tool wants to uninstall Miro which I would like to keep. why would it want to get rid of it and how can I prevent that?
[14:49] <mweijts> !ati
[14:49] <Leapo> Moonlit: I've managed to get the UI to look a bit less bulbous. Unfortunatly, there simply isn't enough control over font sizes, some of them can't be changed independent of one another that really should. Whoever thought up those default settings should be fired: http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6311/ubuntu64bit201010100647.png
[14:49] <MartyMcFly> erUSUL: because many programs are included with much newer versions, ie kismet in a 2010 Version vs. a 2008 Version in ubuntu 10.10
[14:49] <erUSUL> ojii: maybe you used a third party repo ppa to get it? it will uninstall it. you can reenable the repo afterwards and reinstall it
[14:49] <cupis> ojii, you could upgrade and then re-install miro afterwards, assuming a version exists for 10.10
[14:50] <check3r> is there a simple editor which can format c code?
[14:50] <KeithWeisshar> no
[14:50] <erUSUL> ojii: usually is better to let the upgrade tool do its job then fix those little issues
[14:50] <KeithWeisshar> i have the desktop cd
[14:50] <Moonlit> Leapo - yeah, seems to me I could make the UI look less silly by bumping up the font size, but then everything's huge
[14:50] <KeithWeisshar> i don't have the server fversion
[14:50] <Pr070cal> im getting a lot of gateway timeouts ???
[14:50] <ojii> erUSUL, cupis but it will get rid of the configs etc?
[14:50] <Guest19984> check3r: emacs?
[14:50] <check3r> ty
[14:50] <erUSUL> MartyMcFly: well those programs wont work in 64 bits
[14:50] <tranqui> check3r: vim!
[14:50] <Leapo> And as you can see, the spacing in the tray area is really bad.
[14:50] <Moonlit> I'm still pissed that I can't turn off menu icons
[14:50] <crimsonmane> @ leapo @moonlit -- the all black default settings just so happen to be my absolute favorite.
[14:50] <erUSUL> ojii: no; configs are in your home
[14:50] <ojii> erUSUL, aha
[14:51] <sunshinepants> hm, ubuntu+1?
[14:51] <Leapo> crimsonmane: Seriously? There's so much wasted space. The fonts are all gigantic and there's extra padding everywhere.
[14:51] <ojii> o.O 900MB :(
[14:51] <crimsonmane> no the fonts are tiny
[14:51] <Moonlit> crimsonmane - it's not so much the theme that I find a problem, I like to shrink my fonts and stuff down, unfortunately the rest of the stuff on the screen doesn't shrink down with them
[14:51] <crimsonmane> it installed to my max resolution
[14:51] <MartyMcFly> erUSUL: ok, thank you.
[14:51] <Leapo> crimsonmane: On the default theme? The fonts are gigantic.
[14:51] <crimsonmane> lol leapo maybe i got lucky
[14:51] <Moonlit> the fonts are definitely quite big
[14:52] <MartyMcFly> erUSUL: i'll reinstall and take the 32bit Version then
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> I set my fonts to be size 12 or 13 , wife bumps hers up to size 16+
[14:52] <crimsonmane> everything on my system is tiny
[14:52] <crimsonmane> except its.... well... nevermind
[14:52] <crimsonmane> graphics card
[14:52] <Leapo> crimsonmane: Then maybe you have some freakishly high DPI monitor
[14:52] <Low_enduser> !ati
[14:52] <nouri> hi
[14:52] <nouri> i have a question
[14:52] <sunshinepants> old people often can't read small fonts, even 12pt
[14:53] <crimsonmane> leapo idunno... its a MAG i got for 80 bucks...
[14:53] <pr0xy> coz_ my md5 is WAY different
[14:53] <nouri> i have got a t41 thinkpad
[14:53] <crimsonmane> leapo idunno... its a MAG i got for 80 bucks...
[14:53] <crimsonmane> oops
[14:53] <crimsonmane> can anyone point me to a "working" fix to "Linksys WUSB600N" having slow, unreliable, constantly disconnecting, when it disconnects i have to disable networking then reenable networking...
[14:53] <nouri> but resume and hibernation is not working on ubuntu 10.10
[14:53] <Gryllida> updating to 10.10 from 10.04, the updater hang, anything i can do except close it off and try again?
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> pr0xy:  just a few bits differnt can change the md5 radically
[14:53] <ojii> will upgrade keep the binary video drivers?
[14:53] <nouri> with ubuntu 9.10 it works
[14:53] <trans> hello
[14:53] <trans> everyone
[14:54] <nouri> but i want to update my thinkpad
[14:54] <iflema> Moonlit gconf-editor, check /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> Gryllida:  deends on where its hanging at.
[14:54] <minhtri> helo
[14:54] <minhtri> somebody in vietnam?
[14:54] <pr0xy> Dr_Willis do I need to redownload again?
[14:54] <Moonlit> iflema - I think I tried that ages ago, but in Ubuntu some of them are forced on regardless of that setting, but I'll try it again, thanks for the tip
[14:54] <nouri> resume is not working if i close the lid
[14:54] <Leapo> Also, why isn't there a "reset to defaults" button on the font settings tab?
[14:54] <Gryllida> Dr_Willis: currently at Setting up samba-common (2:3.5.4~dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
[14:54] <Gryllida> GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3081: signal name `depressed' is invalid for instance `0xa6466e0' at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 120, <GEN6> line 15.
[14:54] <Leapo> That seems like a rather important thing to be missing
[14:54] <nouri> has anybody a solution????
[14:55] <Guest19984> nouri: what have you tried so far?
[14:55] <trans> I have installed 10.10 netbook edition, I often gets error msgs like serious kernel problem, n system seems to be slow, not smooth like 10.04, any solutions?
[14:55] <Gryllida> Dr_Willis: no cpu activity for like 20 minutes, it just hang
[14:55] <nouri> i am a newb in linzux
[14:55] <allu2> any idea why in the gwibber applet where you can write message to facebook wall the "Post to facebook:.." text doesn't dissapear when i begin to write (and sometimes the box to write doesn't appear at all even if i have gwibber open)
[14:55] <_kroson_> guys was the final release iso built on 07/10?
[14:55] <Moonlit> iflema - yup, no luck, it was already unchecked :(
[14:55] <nemchik> if i was running the RC how can i tell if i am now running the final release?
[14:55] <nouri> okay what i tried i tried to configure xorg.conf
[14:55] <aliverius> tell me one basic package to remove and remove together the whole gnome
[14:55] <_kroson_> nemchik: if you fully updated then you are at final
[14:55] <nouri> but this donßt work
[14:55] <minhtri> i dont want how to create a shortcut in desktop and change my desktop?somebody help me.please.thank much
[14:56] <nemchik> oh cool
[14:56] <Guest19984> nouri: first rule is to try before you ask. try to find forum posts etc using google
[14:56] <_kroson_> nemchik: go to terminal and write lsb-release -a
[14:56] <WXZ> how can I install gnome desktop from terminal
[14:56] <WXZ> but just the desktop, nothing extra
[14:56] <Low_enduser> Hi, quick questions does ati hd4xxx series supports lastest version of ubuntu? if so, how do i install it XD?
[14:56] <penguin42> Low_enduser: Yeh just install Maverick
[14:56] <_kroson_> Low_enduser: yes it does xD
[14:56] <penguin42> Low_enduser: The open drivers just work on my hd4350
[14:56] <_kroson_> just install 10.10 normally and the opensource drivers will work fine
[14:56] <Gryllida> Dr_Willis: any idea on what to do?
[14:57] <AndroUser> hi i was installing the upgrade andpower went
[14:57] <_kroson_> if they are not enough for you, you can install the proprietary ones easily too
[14:57] <aeon-ltd> WXZ: sudo apt-get gnome
[14:57] <minhtri> himanshu la gi the
[14:57] <aeon-ltd> WXZ: sudo apt-get install gnome (sorry missed ouit install)
[14:57] <AndroUser> now its not restarting
[14:57] <Low_enduser> _kroson_ & penguin42: thanks, I don't seems to get the resolution changed XD
[14:57] <penguin42> Low_enduser: Changed?
[14:57] <pr0xy> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is annoying as all heck!!!!!!!!
[14:57] <blackxx> hi all
[14:58] <Gryllida> pr0xy: please be more specific
[14:58] <himanshu> minhtri"?
[14:58] <crimsonmane> can anyone point me to a "working" fix to "Linksys WUSB600N" having slow, unreliable, constantly disconnecting, when it disconnects i have to disable networking then reenable networking...
[14:58] <himanshu> minhitri:?
[14:58] <Low_enduser> penguin42: yeah, it stucks on 800x600
[14:58] <minhtri> ban biet cah tao bieu tuong ngoai desktop hem
[14:58] <pr0xy> Gryllida I've had to redownload 10.10 like 4 times already!
[14:58] <minhtri> m moi dung xubuntu nen ....
[14:58] <penguin42> Low_enduser: Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please?
[14:59] <Gryllida> pr0xy: Why?
[14:59] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: how so?
[14:59] <Low_enduser> !pastebin
[14:59] <WXZ> I get "Unmet dependencies"
[14:59] <julian_> he boys aa have a problem with the driver of nvidia 310M
[14:59] <WXZ> aeon-ltd:
[14:59] <julian_> pleas helpme
[14:59] <pr0xy> Gryllida, cousin_mario because it's always got the wrong effing md5
[14:59] <minhtri> @himanshu ban biet tao icon tren nen desktop hem
[14:59] <aeon-ltd> WXZ: what are they?, just instal them
[14:59] <Gryllida> cousin_mario:  < Gryllida> updating to 10.10 from 10.04, the updater hang, anything i can do except close it off and try again? 09:54 < Gryllida> Dr_Willis: currently at Setting up samba-common (2:3.5.4~dfsg-1ubuntu8) ...
[14:59] <Gryllida> 09:54 < Gryllida> GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3081: signal name `depressed' is invalid for instance  `0xa6466e0' at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 120, <GEN6> line 15.
[14:59] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: you have some problem with your pc, I fear
[14:59] <WXZ> are the dependencies going to have dependencies?
[14:59] <minhtri> minh change desktop nhung k dc
[15:00] <iflema> Moonlit now i think of it, that only works for the System menu only :S
[15:00] <SwedeMike> pr0xy: use the bittorrent one, it should be able to check each block so you get all correct data.
[15:00] <aeon-ltd> WXZ: btw its easier to just 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' although you do get a lot of junk with it
[15:00] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: it was faulty ram when it happened to me a while ago
[15:00] <pr0xy> it's a mac.
[15:00] <someNick> HI GUYZ
[15:00] <WXZ> ubuntu-desktop = extra packages
[15:00] <minhtri> ko nhan chuot trai duocc
[15:00] <julian_> The following error was encountered. You may need to update your configuration to solve this.
[15:00] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA::failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module.
[15:00] <julian_> please check your
[15:00] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA: system 's kernel log for additional error
[15:00] <julian_> messages.
[15:00] <FloodBot1> julian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <g0tcha> hey guys, can someone help me install my canon scanner/printer in ubuntu?
[15:00] <julian_> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specificerror, 0)
[15:00] <aeon-ltd> WXZ: unlikely, usually it only goes down one level
[15:00] <someNick> HOW DO I SET UBUNTU
[15:00] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: macs can have faulty memory modules too...
[15:00] <someNick> EH???????????????
[15:00] <eriksson25> Anyone know how I chuld activate the Mantis drivers for tv cards that is implemented in the new kernell (from 2.6.33) Runing 10.10
[15:00] <aeon-ltd> !caps | someNick
[15:00] <erUSUL> WXZ: there is gnome-desktop metapackage iirc
[15:00] <WXZ> I'm just trying to get the bare-minimum
[15:00] <mareks> I need help to configure zend debugger in eclipse, linux platform
[15:00] <AndroUser> hi my computer restarted while ubuntu 10.10 was installing. now its stuck at gnome
[15:00] <someNick> how to set ubuntu
[15:00] <erUSUL> WXZ: even gnome-core
[15:00] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: give it a test if you don't find other problems
[15:01] <ojii> see you all on 10.10
[15:01] <WXZ> gnome-desktop comes bundled with extra stuff
[15:01] <pr0xy> It doesn't boot up with bad ram and I already checked.
[15:01] <aeon-ltd> WXZ: imo, if your going minimal, i wouldn't use gnome
[15:01] <Moonlit> iflema - yeah, that's what I found, it's really annoying because in 9.04 and earlier I always used to turn all the icons off because I think they look cartoonish and horrible, but now for no good reason I'm *forced* to keep them because the Ubuntu designers say so, it's unfortunate
[15:01] <erUSUL> !info gnome-core | WXZ
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> someNick:  ask a clearer question...
[15:01] <Leapo> Well, that's highly annoying. Windows aren't attaching to my mouse cursor correctly. They seem to drag behind the mouse cursor as I drag them around, rather than being locked on it.
[15:01] <WXZ> yeah, that's what I'm looking for erUSUL
[15:01] <eriksson25> Anyone know how I chuld activate the Mantis drivers for tv cards that is implemented in the new kernell (from 2.6.33) Runing 10.10
[15:01] <islandfellow> hello all trying to install ubuntu on a laptop with a trial version of windows 7 enterprise, and it hangs every time during the first ubuntu logo screen
[15:01] <pr0xy> use Xfce for minimalism.
[15:01] <penguin42> Leapo: Do you have desktop effects enabled?
[15:02] <Leapo> Almost like they're attached to the cursor with a rubber band
[15:02] <Leapo> penguin42: No.
[15:02] <WXZ> aeon-ltd: I'm not looking for the "bare-minimum" per se, just the bare minimum of the apps which I want to run (gnome being one of them)
[15:02] <pr0xy> cousin_mario It's not bad ram.
[15:02] <islandfellow> laptop has dual core intel 1.2 ghz 1 gb ram
[15:02] <vivien_m> Strange that Emacs is still in version 23.1 while 23.2 is out for while now.
[15:02] <vivien_m> I mean in 10.10
[15:02] <jamesjames> please vote for my english contest, if i win, a hot chick will buy me dinner: http://vote.sun0769.com/signup/action.asp?metaid=182&itemid=37955 thanks
[15:02] <aeon-ltd> WXZ: then erUSUL's suggestion is correct, gnome-core
[15:03] <LjL> jamesjames: please don't spam
[15:03] <penguin42> vivien_m: When did it come out? It would have had to come out and been in debian sid a few months ago
[15:03] <WXZ> is there an "encompassing" command
[15:03] <brad_> just want to ask this one more time, i shouldn't worry about backing up my ext4 files to an ntfs formated external usb disk, and then bring them back to ext4?  like it's not going to mangle the file names or file attributes?
[15:03] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: does the download terminate suddently?
[15:03] <pr0xy> jamesjames that's totally irrelevant
[15:03] <WXZ> that says "install package and all dependencies?
[15:03] <CkhiKuzad> I think the IRC ability for Empathy IM on 10.04 is broken or unsupported. I tried to connect a few minutes ago, and it lagged me out of EIM twice.
[15:03] <julian_> The following error was encountered. You may need to update your configuration to solve this.
[15:03] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA::failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module.
[15:03] <julian_> please check your
[15:03] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA: system 's kernel log for additional error
[15:03] <julian_> messages.
[15:03] <FloodBot1> julian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:03] <julian_> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specificerror, 0)
[15:03] <penguin42> brad_: I'd back up using a tar or the like
[15:03] <wers> the ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso I downloaded directly (not on torrent) doesn't match the md5 on http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/MD5SUMS . Do I just download again?
[15:03] <pr0xy> cousin_mario yes, when it's finished. lol
[15:03] <taCoUser4475> :@)
[15:03] <pr0xy> wers mine too
[15:03] <Leapo> penguin42: It's pretty obvious the two aren't linked together rigidly. Grabbing a title bar and dragging a window upwards has the cursor take off, followed a split second later by the window which follows the cursor along
[15:04] <uLinux> if I install using another name (not username) there is no problem right?
[15:04] <wers> pr0xy, what was your md5?
[15:04] <vivien_m> penguin42: Emacs 23.2 was in Sid in June already, as far as I know.
[15:04] <Paddy_NI> Hey I am trying to perform a regular update on ubuntu maverick and I am having errors about public keys, I have not added any software sources outside of what is default in 10.10 anyone know how I might scrub the current sources and get new ones?
[15:04] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: if it gets corrupted every time, you don't have much other options besides looking for faulty connections or hardware defects
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> wers:  or as a test.. start downloading via torrent.. then stop the download/pause it.. quit the torrent app. Copy that ISO to the torrent download directory in the right place.. restart the torrent  client and tell it to 'verify data' :)
[15:04] <wers> pr0xy, I got "f45ff05d8f54b6d34d48abbc8158dc4f "
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> wers:  that may save a lot of time.
[15:04] <Madura_hot_cam> hola
[15:04] <brad_> penguin42, you'd use a tar, eh?  that kind of takes for ever, with a ton of files, you don't trust ntfs?
[15:04] <espen77> anyone else having problems with encrypted home when first logging on in maverick?
[15:04] <pr0xy> wers 59d15a16ce90c8ee97fa7c211b7673a8
[15:04] <wers> Dr_Willis, great. thanks for the advice
[15:04] <eriksson25> Anyone know how I chuld activate the Mantis drivers for tv cards that is implemented in the new kernell (from 2.6.33) Runing 10.10
[15:04] <cousin_mario> Madura_hot_cam: es puta?
[15:04] <penguin42> brad_: Not as far as I can throw it
[15:04] <jpds> cousin_mario: Como?
[15:05] <Madura_hot_cam> como puta perro culiao
[15:05] <wers> pr0xy, so that's what you got? you got it right then
[15:05] <Leapo> Any way to fix that, or is the window manager really that poor?
[15:05] <pr0xy> wers srsly?
[15:05] <cousin_mario> Madura_hot_cam: the nick was misleaing...
[15:05] <nibbler_> is there an alternative install cd for unr? i need full disk encryption, not just this homedirectory stuff :/
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  sounds like some soft of video driver issue to me.
[15:05] <wers> pr0xy, yeah. why?
[15:05] <brad_> penguin42, had bad experiences, or heard bad things?  or just a msft hater like the rest of us? :-)
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  as a test try alt-f2 'metacity --replace' see if it then works better.
[15:05] <julian_> The following error was encountered. You may need to update your configuration to solve this.
[15:05] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA::failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module.
[15:05] <julian_> please check your
[15:05] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA: system 's kernel log for additional error
[15:05] <julian_> messages.
[15:05] <FloodBot1> julian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <julian_> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specificerror, 0)
[15:05] <noob-tux--> why does firefox works slow in ubuntu 10.04? does anyone got the same problem? or is it just me? :(
[15:05] <Moonlit> flood fail
[15:06] <LjL> julian_: STOP PASTING
[15:06] <Out`Of`Control> hi, how do i update 10.4 to 10.10 ?
[15:06] <penguin42> brad_: The latter; but I doubt it would preserve the flags etc
[15:06] <julian_> ok
[15:06] <xukun> I lost all pcm sound through spdif. It was working before but I now think something is blocking it. Any idea what to do?
[15:06] <LjL> julian_: use - the - pastebin
[15:06] <pr0xy> wers dammit. I thought it was wrong so I redownloaded twice.
[15:06] <wers> pr0xy, see http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/MD5SUMS
[15:06] <vj> hello guys, is ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#bt is today's verson??
[15:06] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Video drivers are installed and working correctly. That command made no change at all
[15:06] <pangeran> hy
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  that is odd then. what are your system specs/video card?
[15:06] <varunthacker> kudos for the new release. Last time when i did an upgrade it slowed down my system a lot. I was wondering if i could save the exact state pf my current system so that if an upgrade goes bad i can revert to it. I do not want to do a fresh install.
[15:07] <xukun> is there a command to restart pcm or pulseaudio something?
[15:07] <pr0xy> wers. I was looking at the wrong md5sum list. just redownload it.
[15:07] <nobarking> hello
[15:07] <iflema> Out`Of`Control in a terminal    sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[15:07] <jpds> vj: Yes.
[15:07] <Paddy_NI> varunthacker: You would be best to ghost your drive
[15:07] <Out`Of`Control> ty iflema :)
[15:07] <cousin_mario> pr0xy: PEBKAC then?
[15:07] <wers> pr0xy, aww. ok. at least you know now.hehe
[15:07] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Phenom II X4 920 @ 4.0GHz, 8GB of DDR2 @ 1200MHz, Radeon HD 5850 (primary), GeForce GTX260 (secondary)
[15:07] <varunthacker> Paddy_NI, using?:
[15:07] <nobarking> is LibreOffice available in Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick?
[15:07] <jpds> nobarking: No.
[15:08] <pr0xy> cousin_mario what's PEBKAC?
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  Interesting a ATI and an nvidia card.. thats amazing it dosent burst out in a war...
[15:08] <Paddy_NI> varunthacker: clonezilla is nice
[15:08] <nobarking> anyone know any PPAs for LibreOffice?
[15:08] <vj> This is the busyest channel in freenode I think
[15:08] <Moonlit> Leapo - sorry, you need a faster box ;)
[15:08] <jpds> vj: Yes.
[15:08] <vj> hehe
[15:08] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: I usually run Windows. The HD5850 lets me game in Eyefinity and the GTX260 is a PhysX card
[15:08] <_kroson_> people if 2 md5sums match then it means that both files are exactly the same?
[15:08] <vj> all people are on their own,
[15:08] <_kroson_> sorry if this sounds too noob xD
[15:08] <BlueMatt> cousin_mario: Problem exists between keyboard and chair
[15:08] <penguin42> _kroson_: To all purposes yes
[15:08] <penguin42> _kroson_: There is a miniscule chance they are different
[15:09] <_kroson_> penguin42: thats because my ubuntu iso is dated 7th october
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:   it could be some odd quirk in how nvidia and ati work together (or fight together)  I dont touch ati any more.
[15:09] <penguin42> _kroson_: If the md5sum matches it's fine
[15:09] <Leapo> Moonlit: If I need a faster box to keep windows from lagging behind the cursor, then there's something terribly wrong with ubuntu :-P
[15:09] <erUSUL> _kroson_: yes;
[15:09] <pr0xy> hey!... dammit. someone sent me the wrong link and I'm tired as heck...
[15:09] <_kroson_> although i downloaded it today after the release announcement from ubuntu.com
[15:09] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Switching the monitor to the Nvidia card made no difference. Same cursor lag. I've noticed this problem in a virtual machine as well.
[15:09] <CkhiKuzad> For my indicator applet, i want to use Thunderbird as my mail program (Evolution doesnt work with my gmail, and it uses too much CPU power). How would I do this?
[15:09] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Seems to be inherent to the window manager
[15:10] <Moonlit> Leapo - maybe try swapping out your graphics card for something a little better supported, like uh... I dunno... S3 Virge? :P
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  first ive eer heard of it.. so i doubt that..  a virtual machine . would be using its own drivers also..
[15:10] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Happening in VMWare and VirtualBox
[15:10] <semitones> what's that keyboard shortcut that brings up the terminal?
[15:10] <_kroson_> penguin42: true, i see that all isos are dated from 7th october
[15:10] <Leapo> Default installation with tools
[15:10] <Moonlit> windows seem to respond fine for my in VirtualBox
[15:10] <_kroson_> thank you penguin42 and erUSUL
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:   so you installed the ati and  nvidia drivers?
[15:10] <erUSUL> semitones: alt + f3 iirc
[15:11] <xangua> CkhiKuzad: evolution does work with gmail perfectly http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/thunderbird-ubuntu-notification-applet/
[15:11] <Low_enduser> penguin42: sorry for the delay, here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/510121/
[15:11] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: One, the other, both, no difference
[15:11] <semitones> erUSUL, i just had a look in Preferences, it's ctrl - alt - t
[15:12] <devkorcvince> exit
[15:12] <penguin42> Low_enduser: Sorry, I've forgotten the problem!  that doesn't look like the whole of the log ?
[15:12] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: You really don't notice that? Watch the cursor as you dag a window around, it doesn't stay in the same position relative to the window. Dragging a window upwards has the cursor off the top of the window with the window itself following along just behind.
[15:12] <Serg86> Hey, I have a problem with my microphone, it was working perfectly in Lucid, now after a clean install of Maverick, it doesn't. I've checked, it's not muted, it's selected as the primary recording source and so on, maybe it has something to do with pulse?
[15:12] <BUGabundo> booo
[15:12] <Leapo> I've been able to reproduce this on every system so far...
[15:12] <BUGabundo> darn mem leak
[15:12] <Low_enduser> penguin42: yeah, how do i copy the logs from terminal ?
[15:13] <Xeno__> Hi, can i record Ubuntu on a DVD+R?
[15:13] <penguin42> Low_enduser: Easiest way is to use the pastebinit command
[15:13] <ganeshran> hi everyone. my power went while upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10 and now the GNOME manager doesnt start at all. please help
[15:13] <penguin42> ganeshran: That can be very tricky to deal with
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  nope. never had that issue. except when the video drivers are totally mesed up  like im using the 'nv' drivers and compiz.
[15:13] <roxdragon> we
[15:13] <penguin42> ganeshran: Can you get a text terminal and sudo to root?
[15:13] <ganeshran> penguin42, any idea what i should do?
[15:13] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Don't have it, or can't see it?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  even my low end netbook dosent have the issue with compiz. If the drivers are set right.
[15:13] <xangua> Xeno__: yes, there is also an ubuntu dvd
[15:13] <roxdragon> 10.10 relese?
[15:13] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: It might be subtle
[15:13] <Leapo> Compiz is off, by the way
[15:13] <erUSUL> ganeshran: go to a terminal « crtl + alt + f1  » and finish the upgrade « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade »
[15:13] <ganeshran> how to get a text terminal? I have Ubuntu recovery mode in grub
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  try installing some other window manager like.. 'icewm' see if it has same issue in there.
[15:14] <penguin42> ganeshran: What do you see on your screen?
[15:14] <xukun> speaker-test -t wav -c 5 do not produce sound but I can hear ac3 with dvd. I think I that my pcm sound is dead I don't what to from here
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  you are also the first person ive ever seen thats had an ati and nvidia both in their system at the same time.
[15:14] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Like I said, it happens on every system I've tried it on, including virtual machines
[15:15] <Leapo> This is just the most recent :-/
[15:15] <ganeshran> penguin42, i am now in windhows. On grub there are three entries with the recovery mode written on them. When I click it.  I stops after a while
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  virtual machines ON that machine you mean?
[15:15] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Either way, same issue.
[15:15] <penguin42> Leapo: Virtual machines are a bit special; the way they update the video and mice are a bit weird
[15:15] <ganeshran> erUSUL, ubuntu is not logging in
[15:15] <Xeno__> With a DVD+R i only need 1 correct?
[15:15] <Leapo> penguin42: It happens if I boot into it as well
[15:15] <seemawn> although I asked this in #linux.de:
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  ive never noticed it in virtualbox either.  i often run live cd's in vbox on ubuntu.
[15:16] <vj> what is the difference between i386 and amd64 verson of ubuntu??
[15:16] <ganeshran> erUSUL, It just stops after sometime. The computer powered off right in between the upgrade process
[15:16] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Look harder? lol
[15:16] <ruif13> hi,
[15:16] <toxictux> vj, 32bit and 64bit
[15:16] <seemawn> I hm I should not ask this here. This channel seeems to frequentated atm.
[15:16] <julian_> The following error was encountered. You may need to update your configuration to solve this.
[15:16] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA::failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module.
[15:16] <julian_> please check your
[15:16] <julian_> (EE) NVIDIA: system 's kernel log for additional error
[15:16] <julian_> messages.
[15:16] <FloodBot1> julian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:16] <julian_> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specificerror, 0)
[15:16] <seemawn> forget about that.
[15:16] <penguin42> heck is he going to learn?
[15:16] <vj> toxictux: but both works on amd processors?
[15:16] <ruif13> hii :) i'm now upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 :)
[15:16] <ruif13> just now :D
[15:16] <toxictux> vj, yes
[15:17] <ganeshran> any help please...
[15:17] <ganeshran> how do i log into terminal when nothing is starting.
[15:17] <toxictux> vj, how much ram do you have?
[15:17] <[lan3y]> hey, is anyone else finding updating slow today?
[15:17] <erUSUL> ganeshran: run « sudo --configure -a » when it stops. then do again the apt line; if it stops repeat « sudo --configure -a »
[15:17] <vj> toxictux: 3gb
[15:17] <erUSUL> ganeshran: do that untill the two commands do nothing
[15:17] <LjL> julian_: seriously, which part of "don't flood" is so hard to get?
[15:17] <vj> toxictux: and you?
[15:17] <penguin42> ganeshran: What's the last thing you see on the screen, do you get a prompt or a login or the like?
[15:17] <Xeno__> With a DVD+R i only need one correct?
[15:17] <penguin42> erUSUL: I'm not sure he can get a prompt to type them at
[15:18] <toxictux> vj, then you can use the 32bit version to use all your ram, i personaly like 64 bit better
[15:18] <ganeshran> When i load the Grub has 6 entries for linux
[15:18] <MaKrOBot> testing Ubuntu 10.10 on my Craft-DIY-Notebook
[15:18] <Low_enduser> penguin42: nvm, I've found the solution xd... the cause of it is mainly co'z it's running under vbox and I didn't install guest plugin XD
[15:18] <ganeshran> I tried clicking two of them. The normal and the recovery mode
[15:18] <[lan3y]> 10.10 seems nice so far =D
[15:18] <vj> toxictux: what is the actual difference between 32bit and 64bit??
[15:18] <ganeshran> but it just stops and I am not able to enter any command too
[15:18] <penguin42> vj: 32 bits
[15:18] <cousin_mario> vj: do you have 4GB of RAM or more?
[15:18] <ganeshran> should I try logging in the older recovery mode entries
[15:18] <Xeno__> -_-
[15:18] <Moonlit> vj - 64bit computers work with much bigger numbers at once, basically
[15:18] <Super_Roach> [lan3y], good to hear :)
[15:18] <vj> cousin_mario: no 3gb
[15:19] <Xeno__> With a DVD+R I only NEED ONE right?
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  one what?
[15:19] <cousin_mario> vj: then you can use the 32 bit version
[15:19] <vj> Moonlit: so no use installing 64 bit if I have 3gb ram?
[15:19] <Xeno__> One DVD+R
[15:19] <cousin_mario> not sure about virtualisation and stuff then
[15:19] <vj> cousin_mario: so no use installing 64 bit if I have 3gb ram?
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  clarify what you are talking about...
[15:19] <toxictux> vj, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit
[15:19] <cousin_mario> vj: for the vast majority of uses, no
[15:20] <Moonlit> vj - well, there's really no harm if your CPU is 64bit capable, but you probably won't notice any real difference
[15:20] <peto_> How do I know that I have 10.10 final? Because I don't have any update packages?
[15:20] <Xeno__> Sorry if my choice of vocabulary is off today i have just woke up
[15:20] <vj> Moonlit: ok, but my pc is 64 bit supported
[15:20] <cousin_mario> vj: you will encounter some minor problem with plugins and binary codecs though
[15:20] <toxictux> i use 64bit without any problems i can use wow and flash just fine
[15:20] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: IceWM has the same problem
[15:20] <_kroson_> peto_: that means you have final
[15:20] <_kroson_> peto_: text lsb-release -a in terminal
[15:20] <Xeno__> What im trying to say is, if i were to burn Ubuntu ISO onto a disk i would only need one DVD+R correct?
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> peto_:   lsb_release  -a
[15:20] <peto_> _kroson_, ok thanks
[15:20] <BluesKaj> peto_, in the terminal , lsb_release -a
[15:20] <cousin_mario> Xeno__: yes
[15:20] <Moonlit> vj - you can use either then, though I see no reason not to go 64bit, especially if you might want more RAM later on
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  that tells me its some sort of driver/X issue.  icewm is about as minimal as it gets.. except for perhaps flvwm, or jwm.
[15:21] <lackvoid> How do I upgrade my 10.10 rc to the final release?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  or somthing else causing high system load.
[15:21] <cousin_mario> lackvoid: just install the normal updates
[15:21] <julian__> nvidia 310M driver
[15:21] <peto_> This is the answer:
[15:21] <peto_> peto@peto-laptop:~$  lsb_release -a
[15:21] <peto_> No LSB modules are available.
[15:21] <peto_> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[15:21] <peto_> Description:	Ubuntu 10.10
[15:21] <FloodBot1> peto_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:21] <peto_> Release:	10.10
[15:21] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: I've noted this issue with every version of Ubuntu I've ever tried on every hardware configuration I've ever run it on...
[15:22] <Leapo> It's a constant thorn in my side
[15:22] <aleksander> Hi, i have problem with samba, i can't connect with my second computer, because i must insert password
[15:22] <BluesKaj> lackvoid, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:22] <_kroson_> peto_: you are at final release then :)
[15:22] <peto_> yes it seems to be Final
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  then i guess youve had bad luck.. ior not tried a lot of differnt machines.. ive ran it on at least 10 differnt latpops and many desktop machines with out such issues.
[15:22] <Xeno__> @coursin_mario alright, BTW do you know how to use the ISO Recorder? The ISO File i got was set for it to open with ISO Recorder.
[15:22] <Xeno__> Sorry, once again just woke up
[15:22] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: Or you just don't notice it...
[15:22] <vj> Moonlit: how to recover my original desktop if ubuntu crashed and come up with command window??
[15:23] <cousin_mario> Xeno__: I use brasero normally, but any will do, really
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  You said it was very noticeable..    or you are exzaggeratig the problem.
[15:23] <julian__> nvidia 310M driver
[15:23] <Pigl00> :quit
[15:23] <lackvoid> BluesKaj, I cant see any upgrade option yet
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> Leapo:  make a video/screen cast of it perhaps.
[15:23] <Leapo> Dr_Willis: _I_ find it very noticeable, you might not (I can't use your brain)
[15:23] <eriksson25> Anyone know how I chuld activate the Mantis drivers for tv cards that is implemented in the new kernell (from 2.6.33) Runing 10.10
[15:23] <Leapo> :-P
[15:23] <Xeno__> Alright ^^; When i burn it onto the disk all i have to do is restart my comp. and then boot it up? Do i have to dual boot in order to install it?
[15:23] <nobarking> has "aptitude" been replaced in Ubuntu?
[15:23] <nobarking> on Maverick?
[15:23] <Moonlit> vj - can't help you there I'm afraid, I used to type "startx" but I don't know if that works
[15:23] <Moonlit> try it anyway
[15:23] <nobarking> i only get apt-get....
[15:24] <erUSUL> nobarking: they want you to use apt-get
[15:24] <trism> nobarking: it is still there, just not installed by default
[15:24] <trans> what is the ubuntu notebook irc?
[15:24] <nobarking> erUSUL: why is that so?
[15:24] <julian__> long life to windows
[15:24] <BluesKaj> lackvoid, I haven't either , the final release is mainly images / iso's , for Rcs I think the upgrades aren't in the repos yet
[15:24] <erUSUL> nobarking: not really sure; avoid duplication? apt-get has got some of the aptitude capabilities ...
[15:25] <nobarking> erUSUL: thanks
[15:25] <nobarking> trans: thanks
[15:25] <erUSUL> julian__: you really want anyone to help you when all you say is 16:23 < julian__> nvidia 310M driver ??
[15:25] <Xeno__> When i have the DVD+R created with the ISO File on it do i just restart my computer (i have WinXP) and then should the option to install it Automatically pop up?
[15:25] <erUSUL> !details | julian__
[15:25] <erUSUL> julian__: and use a pastebin ....
[15:25] <trans> nobarking do I know u?
[15:25] <nobarking> trism: thanks*
[15:26] <nobarking> trans: meant to send it to trism
[15:26] <trans> yeah its ok
[15:26] <julian__> ok, the problems is to drivers 310M nvidia, i dont have
[15:26] <Xeno__> When i have the DVD+R created with the ISO File on it do i just restart my computer (i have WinXP) and then should the option to install it Automatically pop up?
[15:26] <trans> anybody know irc channel of ubuntu notebook?
[15:26] <julian__> for ubuntu 9.10
[15:26] <BluesKaj> Xeno__, depends what you want to do, dual boot with windows ? , then you need to follow the partioning options , if you want to wipe windows then reformat and install
[15:27] <c3l> trans: netbook questions may be asked in here iirc
[15:27] <Xeno__> I dont plan on getting rid of windows
[15:27] <lackvoid> BluesKaj, when will the updates be available in the repo's?
[15:27] <Guest28480> Hey guys - is there any way of checking if the gb repository is down?  Tried running an update now and it fails to get gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[15:27] <BluesKaj> lackvoid, wish i knew
[15:28] <trans> I have few problems with RC notebook edition, system is slow, not smooth as 10.04
[15:28] <julian__> a have a toshiba A505-S6033 and the probelm is with to drviers 310M nvidia for ubuntu9.10
[15:28] <hikenboot> hello I am wondering if there is a source for libqt4 4:4.7.0~beta1 or later vbox sun version needs it
[15:28] <BluesKaj> !dualboot | Xeno__
[15:28] <julian__> any drivers accept ubuntu with this reference to nvidia
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  you normally burn the iso image to a optical disk then reboot the machine and have it boot from the cd. You dont just copy 'files' to the  disk under windows. Youmust burn the disk as an image file
[15:28] <Xpistos> is the download on ubuntu.com the real 10.10 not an rc?
[15:28] <padhu> #/join #ilugcbe
[15:28] <aeon-ltd> Xpistos: should be
[15:28] <chrissharp123> Guest28480: go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and select Other.. from the "Download from" section - then pick another mirror
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  or you could do a 'wubi' type install. but i dont reccomend that.
[15:29] <Xpistos> cause I was able to download it in 15 mins. That is crazy fast on day one
[15:29] <erUSUL> julian__: install a newer version of ubuntu. 10.04 or 10.10; you get newer compatible drivers
[15:29] <Xeno__> I have another question -- people keep telling me to try and use "Wubi" and says something like its fixed. But i dont see "wubi" anywhere o_O
[15:29] <Guest28480> Cheers Chrissharp123
[15:29] <Xeno__> Mor of a statement
[15:29] <Xeno__> more*
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  its the windows installer on the cd. some wubi.exe or somthing.. I dont reccomend it.
[15:29] <jiohdi> wubi seemed to work fine for me until the first update, then it crashed everything including windows
[15:29] <julian__> ok
[15:29] <jiohdi> so be careful with wubi
[15:29] <julian__> y try
[15:29] <Xeno__> O_O
[15:30] <fishcooker> i want to buy new printer that working seamlessly with ubuntu
[15:30] <Guest28480> chrissharp123 - chose main and has worked fine now ta.
[15:30] <Xeno__> Okay nope lol definitely not using Wubi
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  the normal way is to burn the iso to cd. reboot from the cd..
[15:30] <fishcooker> is there any refernce?!
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:   it can resiuze the existing windows install then. and install onto its own partition/
[15:30] <fishcooker> for scanning, print and sth like that
[15:30] <solsTiCe> hi. So this times is there any cd cover ready to be printed on burned cd ?
[15:30] <Xeno__> Alrighty -- does the CD give you an option for NOT using whole HDD?
[15:30] <WXZ> what does "depends but is not going to be installed mean?"
[15:30] <DJones> WXZ
[15:31] <WXZ> DJones
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> fishcooker:  check the linuxprinting.org site and cups.org site to see how well any printers you may like are supported. and the vararius reviews of any printers.
[15:31] <jiohdi> WXZ: usually it means something is missing
[15:31] <WXZ> I know, but what's the difference between "depends"
[15:31] <fishcooker> thanks dr_wilis, you are the best :D
[15:31] <DJones> WXZ: From memory, that means that the app you're trying to install has a dependancy thats needed, but isn't in the repo's you've got set up
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> fishcooker:  i can suggest 'avoid canon' - they have bad rep. for linux sypport.
[15:31] <Zindon> is the gb.archive.ubuntu.com mirror down for anyone else?
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> fix stick with HP. and perhaps Brother.. but it pays to research befor you buy.
[15:31] <pdidboatdance> hola
[15:31] <penguin42> Zindon: It's being really touchy and slow
[15:31] <WXZ> so what's the significance of "but is not going to be installed"
[15:31] <chrissharp123> Guest28480: great
[15:31] <Xeno__> Alrighty -- does the CD give you an option for NOT using whole HDD?
[15:32] <fishcooker> the squid works well for me dr_willis
[15:32] <Xeno__> when you Boot it?
[15:32] <pdidboatdance> has anyone found a solution to install 10.10 from usb on intel atoms?
[15:32] <xangua> Xeno__: yes
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  of course it does..  it can 'resize' as i mentioned earlier.
[15:32] <padhu> fishcooker:openprinting website has an good list
[15:32] <xangua> pdidboatdance: tried unetbootin¿
[15:32] <jiohdi> WXZ: it could also mean that the dependancies are ok, but some other program conflicts
[15:32] <pdidboatdance> tried unetbootin and universal
[15:32] <fishcooker> thanks padhu.. i'll check it instantly
[15:32] <WXZ> ok
[15:32] <Xeno__> Alright ^^; someone suggested to me earlier that i had 15-30 gb of Storage Space left -- does that sound right>?
[15:33] <pdidboatdance> it loads black screen with one line that says "SYSLINUX ***** sumthing sumthing"
[15:33] <c3l> how do you add programs to the unity sidebar?
[15:33] <WXZ> i'm still a bit confused about "not going to be installed" though
[15:33] <jiohdi> WXZ: it means that to install it would break what you already have installed
[15:33] <WXZ> oh.
[15:33] <WXZ> so installing it would be a bad idea
[15:33] <xangua> c3l: drag them to it
[15:34] <jiohdi> until you rid yourself of whatever conflicting program
[15:34] <BluesKaj> WXZ, other dependencies need tobe resolved perhaps and they haven't come down the repos pipe yet
[15:34] <pdidboatdance> this is a busy irc channel...
[15:34] <Zindon> penguin42: you're right, it's now working for me, just slowly
[15:34] <Xeno__> Alright ^^; someone suggested to me earlier that i had 15-30 gb of Storage Space left -- does that sound right>?
[15:34] <WXZ> ok, I'm just going to install the dependencies manually 1 by 1 and see what happens
[15:35] <jiohdi> WXZ: do you already have some program that is similar installed?
[15:35] <WXZ> no jiohdi
[15:35] <c3l> xangua: cant. for example I want openoffic word processor at the unity bar so I can launch it quickly. so I search for it in my applications tab, but then I cant add it to the unity bar, if I try to trag it, nothing happens
[15:35] <erUSUL> Xeno__: how can we possibily know what storage do you have/had left? or did i missunderstand the question ?
[15:35] <WXZ> I just installed ubuntu from a minimal CD
[15:35] <jiohdi> WXZ: which program exactly is telling you this msg?
[15:35] <Xeno__> OOPS
[15:35] <[lan3y]> so ive just updated does that mean im on final 10.10 now?
[15:35] <Xeno__> Sorry i am SOOO tired lol
[15:35] <WXZ> there's only 1 program :s
[15:35] <WXZ> I'd call it the terminal
[15:36] <Xeno__> Alright, someone suggested that i SHOULD HAVE 15-30 gbs left to install Ubuntu if i "keep using it"
[15:36] <jiohdi> WXZ: so you DID or TRIED to install ubuntu?
[15:36] <WXZ> I installed ubuntu, not from the live CD though jiohdi
[15:36] <mustu> Hi, where can I find New Features in 10.10 Server edition?
[15:36] <WXZ> it's very different
[15:36] <WXZ> no graphical interface
[15:36] <jiohdi> WXZ: ok, so when did the msg appear?
[15:37] <WXZ> when I did "sudo apt-get install gnome-core"
[15:37] <barberan> Help, please. I've got stucked installation process. At the bottom written ">Ready when you are...", and the screen is waiting me for chaning keyboard layout. But I can not choose layout, neither I can press forward.  The mouse courso is in "blinking" state. What should I do ?
[15:37] <c3l> xangua: ooh, you launch it, and then right klick the icont and select "keep in launcher"
[15:37] <Gryllida> how do I get current os info, version, etc?
[15:37] <WXZ> actually, it was "--f --no-install-recommends"
[15:37] <pdidboatdance> so i am guessing no one else is running into the 10.10 live usb  problems?
[15:37] <psusi> WXZ, why don't you just download the regular install cd, preferably with bit torrent?
[15:37] <jiohdi> WXZ: ok... try another first... try icewm
[15:37] <lduros> just curious, when will maverick be available for upgrade from the update manager?
[15:37] <ganeshran> penguin42, hi i tried pressing ctrl-alt-f1 to load terminal but nothing happened
[15:38] <WXZ> psusi :s
[15:38] <penguin42> ganeshran: What do you actually see on your screen at this point?
[15:38] <pdidboatdance> lduros, sudo update-manager -d
[15:38] <Gryllida> ganeshran: did you hold all them three at the same time?
[15:38] <jiohdi> or xfce4
[15:38] <pdidboatdance> there is an option to upgrade
[15:38] <semitones> has anyone gotten zsync to work in downloading the maverick images?
[15:38] <pdidboatdance> in the window
[15:38] <luisgrin> i installed apache2 mysql and php5, they are working, but i it seems that apache2 does not know php exist
[15:38] <barberan> Help, please. I've got stucked installation process. At the bottom written ">Ready when you are...", and the screen is waiting me for chaning keyboard layout. But I can not choose layout, neither I can press forward.  The mouse courso is in "blinking" state. What should I do ?
[15:38] <Xeno__> Alright, someone suggested that i SHOULD HAVE 15-30 gbs left to install Ubuntu if i "keep using it"
[15:38] <psusi> semitones, yes
[15:38] <erUSUL> !lamp > luisgrin
[15:38] <Gryllida> barberan: type 'us', hit enter
[15:38] <luisgrin> i try phpinfo() but the browser want to download the file
[15:38] <ganeshran> penguin42, i am now in my parallel windows installation. But I tried all the 6 linux grub boot options but they dont work
[15:38] <lduros> pdidboatdance: but will it happen without doing this? I'm just asking because my parents (in their late 50s, not tech savvy) have ubuntu 10.04 but they in no way want to use the command line
[15:38] <luisgrin> !lamp
[15:39] <jiohdi> WXZ: that should give you enough base libs and such to continue
[15:39] <WXZ> same problem jiohdi
[15:39] <psusi> semitones, just used it to update the daily from a day or two ago... there were no changes... now seeding the torrent
[15:39] <Xeno__> -_-
[15:39] <penguin42> ganeshran: I need you to tell me what is on your screen at the point they stop working
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[15:39] <WXZ> don't icewm-common
[15:39] <erUSUL> luisgrin: check the troubleshotting section in the wiki
[15:39] <WXZ> or openoffice.org-core
[15:39] <lduros> pdidboatdance: just want to make sure they'll get the prompt for the upgrade sometimes down the line
[15:39] <pdidboatdance> lduros, have them run that one command in a terminal
[15:39] <ganeshran> penguin42. you mean the recovery mode?
[15:39] <pdidboatdance> and click upgrade
[15:39] <pdidboatdance> then tehy are done
[15:39] <jiohdi> WXZ: do you have any vesa loaded or some other x system?
[15:39] <pdidboatdance> its not much command line to it
[15:39] <penguin42> ganeshran: I mean what was on the screen when you tried alt-f1 ?
[15:39] <ganeshran> penguin42, noything at all
[15:40] <semitones> psusi, could you copy your command to me? I can't get it to work.
[15:40] <penguin42> ganeshran: Completely black?
[15:40] <pdidboatdance> they could also just run that command with alt f
[15:40] <Xeno__> Alright, someone suggested that i SHOULD HAVE 15-30 gbs left to install Ubuntu if i "keep using it"
[15:40] <WXZ> I don't know what either of those things are, so probably not
[15:40] <Gryllida> !version
[15:40] <Xeno__> FOR THE THIRD TIME
[15:40] <lduros> pdidboatdance: i guess I could do that, but in any case, if you don't' do that command line, you'll never get the upgrade?
[15:40] <lduros> just wondering
[15:40] <pdidboatdance> idk
[15:40] <erUSUL> Xeno__: it all depends on what you plan to do with the system
[15:40] <psusi> semitones, zsync http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[15:40] <jiohdi> WXZ: if you are using term only perhaps nothing for the graphical interface X window system is present  yet
[15:40] <pdidboatdance> thats how it was explained to me
[15:40] <ganeshran> ganeshran, oh you want exact things.
[15:40] <psusi> semitones, you need to rename the file first though
[15:40] <ganeshran> penguin42, i will take a pic and post. pls give me 2 mins
[15:40] <Xeno__> I plan to keep WinXP on and Ubuntu
[15:40] <Xeno__> And just Dual Boot between both of them
[15:40] <pdidboatdance> i am tethering on a 50kbs 3g connection
[15:40] <ganeshran> i need to restart
[15:41] <erUSUL> Xeno__: you could be an avid pr0n dwonloader for all we know ;P
[15:41] <semitones> psusi, yeah, that is the mirror I'm using, but the download keeps aborting... I wonder what the problem could be
[15:41] <pdidboatdance> pr0n has no place on ubuntu
[15:41] <pdidboatdance> take it to osx
[15:41] <Xeno__> LOL you have absolutely no idea how NON High Tech i am
[15:41] <Xeno__> its almost pathetic
[15:41] <LFC_fan> well it has a place
[15:41] <LFC_fan> on your /boot partition
[15:41] <jiohdi> WXZ: try apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-vesa
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  if you have 30gb free on your windosws disk.. and use 30 of it to put ubuntu on.. then your windows drive will be 100% full.....
[15:42] <Xeno__> It actually is pathetic =/ -- i do know how to do some HTML and VBScript and a LITTLE PHP but thats about it
[15:42] <lduros> pdidboatdance: the update manager window says it's still a release candidate
[15:42] <pdidboatdance> has anyone in here successfully installed 10.10 from a usb stick?
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  defrag and scandisk your windoss setup befor doing the install also.. and backup imporntant stuff..
[15:42] <WXZ> jiohdi: still same problem
[15:42] <psusi> pdidboatdance, yes
[15:42] <pdidboatdance> how?
[15:42] <psusi> pdidboatdance, how what?
[15:42] <pdidboatdance> i get stuck at a line that just says SYSLINUX (ETC ETC)
[15:42] <jiohdi> WXZ: was there a functional reason to try from minimal?
[15:42] <pdidboatdance> did you install from usb
[15:43] <ctjctj> I am having trouble getting nfs4 to work on 10.04.1 LTS.  I can mount the server.  I've started rpc.idmapd but the UID and GID still come back as Nobody.  This was working in an 9.04(?) system.  I've checked the domain name and it matches and the idmap.conf file matches what I have on a working 9.x system
[15:43] <Xeno__> omfg Defrag takes too d*** long
[15:43] <Xeno__> Ugh :P
[15:43] <Xeno__> its worth it i guess
[15:43] <psusi> pdidboatdance, same way you install from cd... tell the bios to boot from that drive, then choose install
[15:43] <Falcorian> Does anyone have a link to the md5 hashes for 10.10? I don't see them on the download page... :-/
[15:43] <trism> semitones: generally on release day I need to use a mirror instead of releases.ubuntu.com for zsync to work correctly, haven't tested it yet today though
[15:43] <pdidboatdance> ive done it on every release since 9
[15:43] <iflema> !hashes | Falcorian
[15:43] <pdidboatdance> but htis particular version will not work with my computer
[15:43] <Falcorian> Thanks!
[15:43] <mdg2> hello!  I'm having a problem with lxde install allowing sharing of connected printer to wireless client - any help greatly appreciated
[15:43] <semitones> trism, alright, I'll look for a good mirror :)
[15:44] <WXZ> jiohdi: yes, I don't like extra stuff
[15:44] <pdidboatdance> ill keep tryin
[15:44] <WXZ> control-freak issue
[15:44] <jiohdi> WXZ: only a guess mind you, but it could be that the kernel is just minimual too without necessary drivers
[15:44] <Falcorian> iflema: Doesn't seem to have 10.10.
[15:44] <mdg2> what file would I need to tweak to make sure my printer gets shared?
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  also the windows tools to resize the widnows hd may be faster. If you know how to use them
[15:45] <jiohdi> WXZ: you might like business card debian
[15:45] <pdidboatdance> its super fast
[15:45] <pdidboatdance> to shrink the windows volume
[15:45] <julian__> nvidia 310M is not go to ubuntu
[15:45] <Xeno__> What do you mean by "resize"
[15:45] <erUSUL> mdg2: the gui method does not work for you ? or even the cups webUI ?
[15:45] <WXZ> I'll try it jiohdi
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  you will resize your windows partitions to make room for a linux partitiion. the installer cn do it. or you do be  beforhand
[15:46] <jiohdi> WXZ: it has everying but the latest updates of certain programs
[15:46] <jiohdi> and it lets you install just what you wish
[15:46] <jiohdi> very mimimal install
[15:46] <iflema> Falcorian http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/MD5SUMS
[15:47] <mdg2> erUSUL: no.  I've checked the server settings to enable sharing, but my wireless laptoe running linux does not see it,even using an ipp://
[15:47] <Falcorian> There we go! Thanks again
[15:47] <Xeno__> Okay -- how do i do it "beforehand" and if i do it will it erase important files o_O i wouldnt think you COULD because of the fact that you have windows UP
[15:47] <jiohdi> it fits on a business card sized cd thus the name
[15:47] <WXZ> jiohdi: if this fails
[15:47] <WXZ> I'll give it a go
[15:47] <ctjctj> I am having trouble getting nfs4 to work on 10.04.1 LTS.  I can mount the server.  I've started rpc.idmapd but the UID and GID still come back as Nobody.  This was working in an 9.04(?) system.  I've checked the domain name and it matches and the idmap.conf file matches what I have on a working 9.x system.  I've read the NFS howtows.  Any suggestions on where to go from here?
[15:48] <jiohdi> WXZ: you might also check out puppy5 which supports debian
[15:48] <semitones> is it better to upgrade from the alternate cd or from the internet?
[15:48] <WXZ> wrote it down in tomboy
[15:48] <mdg2> erUSUL: I do note that the printer settings when viewed for path show :usb...... and it shows the serial number instead of other info
[15:48] <sourya> Is there a way to do wireless ad-hoc file sharing with a windows computer without bridging with any other interfaces?
[15:49] <FDFlock> semitones: the same
[15:49] <Matthes_> I have a broken dependencie, how do I get rid of it?
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  windows has tools to resize its own partitions.. Im not sure if any are in XP hopwever...
[15:49] <erUSUL> mdg2: tried the webui? http://localhost:631 ?
[15:49] <Keiser_Soze> howdi...  I put the new 10.10 iso in the same directory as wubi... then I run Wubi and it ignores that iso and tried to download the 10.04 version... help please?
[15:49] <pdidboatdance> i dont think there is in xp
[15:49] <jiohdi> sourya: samba can access any open xp files and can copy paste with them
[15:49] <uLinux> if I change my name during installation it wont give me any problems?
[15:49] <aeon-ltd> Keiser_Soze: try getting the latest wubi
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  you can let the installer do it..   just be sure to scandisk and defrag, and backup imporntant windows files first..
[15:49] <uLinux> (not username)
[15:49] <mdg2> yep, it keeps asking for password endlessly
[15:49] <Keiser_Soze> aeon-ltd I did.
[15:49] <BluesKaj> semitones, upgrade from he repos works well if you have a decent internet connection , sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:49] <FDFlock> semitones: from internet the updates might be a bit newer, obviously. But you can use the CD and then update from the internet
[15:50] <techwizrd> Are there any downsides to using 64 bit ubuntu as opposed to 32 bit?
[15:50] <Xeno__> The thing is, i dont HAVE another HDD to backup Windows with
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  now a days i always keep linux and windoqws each on their own hard drives
[15:50] <Xeno__> As in
[15:50] <ctjctj> Keiser_Soze: the magic I just found is to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and make prompt=normal.  if it is LTS it seems to ignore 10.10.
[15:50] <vbgunz> how can I troubleshoot why hibernation is so slow? It's amazingly slow. the kernel prior to maverick and the next mainline kernel 2.6.36 are blazingly fast... the maverick kernel 2.6.35 is extremely slow... up to 700% slower to hibernate than either other kernel?
[15:50] <ctjctj> Keiser_Soze: don't know if that applies to your issue but it might.
[15:50] <jiohdi> Keiser_Soze: wubi is a program that is not yet set up for 10.10... but bewarned, after my wubi install worked... the first updates crashed my whole system including windows install
[15:50] <erUSUL> vbgunz: report a bug
[15:50] <mdg2> erUSUL: when I try to change from client side,and shows enabled and sharing when trying from server side
[15:50] <semitones> Ok, as long as the servers aren't flooded, as they were in years past :P
[15:50] <Xeno__> Dr_Willis do i need to back anything up if i have Restoration CDs made already
[15:50] <Keiser_Soze> OK.. thanks
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  when in doubt. backup imporntant stuff...
[15:51] <netcitizen> How to do fresh install of  ubuntu 10.10 and remove 10.04? I have dual boot of Win XP and Ubuntu 10.04. I did not use Wubi installer.
[15:51] <jiohdi> Keiser_Soze: wubi installs WITHIN xp/vista and updates can alter partition sizing etc
[15:51] <sourya> jiohdi: I am not in network with the windows computer. I tried creating an ad-hoc connection from winodws but I am not able to connect to it through ubuntu. Does samba work without a LAN?
[15:51] <vbgunz> erUSUL: I didn't ask how to report a bug, I asked how to troubleshoot why this is happening. I cannot get any verbose output and don't know what log files to look into and even if I did, I don't know what I am looking for
[15:51] <erUSUL> mdg2: i do not think i can help further; my understanding of cups is really weak. take a look at logs /var/log/cups/ and conf files /etc/cups/
[15:51] <BlaDe^> Hi, how can I setup an sftp account to the /var/www/ directory ?
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> netcitizen:  burn 10.10 cd.. boot it.. use  the partition tools to delete the 10.04 partitions. or tell the installer to reformat them.
[15:51] <mdg2> erUSUL: maybe I need to get a fresh printer.conf file
[15:51] <jiohdi> sourya: you mean over the internet without a direct set up?
[15:51] <BlaDe^> I don't want to give root to them
[15:51] <Xeno__> Well -- i dont have another HDD o_o
[15:51] <mdg2> erUSUL: okay, thanks for the tips
[15:52] <erUSUL> vbgunz: main kernel log ? /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog ?
[15:52] <techwizrd> netcitizen, When you install ubuntu 10.10, select manual partitioning and install Ubuntu 10.10 on the partition you have 10.04. Make sure you tell it to reformat
[15:52] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis, raid ? if so which one ?
[15:52] <TER0RR> wow
[15:52] <TER0RR> 10.10 is awesome :)
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> BluesKaj:  no raid. just lots of hard drives. :) even the laptop has 2 now..
[15:52] <Keiser_Soze> I think the prudent thig to do is wait a few days until the wubi guys figure it out. Thanks for the help
[15:52] <sourya> juihdi: No internet, just two wireless computers
[15:52] <Xeno__> Dr_Willis and WTH are the Bots doing?
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> Xeno__:  no idea. i tend to ignore them
[15:53] <Matthes_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591977    How do I get rid of a broken dependencie?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis, does grub accomodate more than one HDD ?
[15:53] <jiohdi> sourya: no router?
[15:53] <netcitizen> Dr_Willis: , techwizrd thanks. will do the same.when i do that it will remove 10.04 and install 10.10 in the same partition right.leaving win xp untouched.
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> BluesKaj:  of course.. lilo could.. :)
[15:53] <MohammadAG51> hmm, is 10.10 RC upgradeable to Final?
[15:53] <cupis> MohammadAG51, yes
[15:53] <sourya> juihdi: No.
[15:53] <jiohdi> sourya: if you put a router between them its easy... without a router I have no clue
[15:53] <techwizrd> netcitizen, It will leave Windows XP untouched as long as you only format the partition with Ubuntu 10.10
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> BluesKaj:  i tend to keep linux and grub on one hd.. and windows on other hd.. I can use bios menus to boot what HD i want.. or let grub be default.. and pick the os.. if grub dies , windows is untouched.. and if windows reinstalls.. grub is untouched.
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> MohammadAG51:  of course.
[15:54] <ganeshran> penguin42, erUSUL : this is my boot menu http://img257.imageshack.us/i/20101010201327735bengal.jpg/
[15:54] <jiohdi> sourya: I think you can pick up a router at a flea market under 50 bucks
[15:54] <netcitizen> techwizrd: when i choose that option it will do the format of partition automatically right ?
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  ive gotten them for  $1
[15:54] <jiohdi> yes :)
[15:54] <Matthes_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591977    How do I get rid of a broken dependencie?
[15:54] <penguin42> ganeshran: And when you hit return at that point what exactly happens next?
[15:54] <techwizrd> Are there any downsides to using 64-bit Ubuntu? I'm particularly interested in things like Flash.
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  new ones ive seen under $30
[15:55] <jiohdi> Dr_Willis: exactly, they are cheap enough to get
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> techwizrd:  not really any downsides these days
[15:55] <erUSUL> ganeshran: looks ok; what's the problem?
[15:55] <vbgunz> those files are barely empty. I man pm-hibernate and still cannot find anyway to verbosely put out whats happening during hibernate. I downloaded hibernate from apt-get and put the verbosity up high on 4 yesterday but though I can see no problems hibernating and saw some progress, I could never resume. I removed hibernate and fell back to pm-hibernate but no progress and still butt slow
[15:55] <OneMillionDollar> is there a alarm clock app in ubuntu ?
[15:55] <penguin42> techwizrd: With the 32bit flash used at the moment it's less stable than running in 32bit Ubuntu, there is a 64bit flash that's more stable if you manually install it
[15:55] <ganeshran> penguin42, If i log into the normal one - this error comes http://img257.imageshack.us/i/20101010201327735bengal.jpg/
[15:55] <sourya> juihdi: The apartment I'm in has a router but only allows one connection per account. So I cannot use that.
[15:55] <techwizrd> Matthes_, Have you tried? sudo apt-get -f install ?
[15:55] <administrator> ?
[15:55] <Matthes_> techwizrd: yep
[15:55] <Guest95854> hello, anyone else having broken their ubuntu this morning?
[15:55] <jiohdi> sourya: then just pick up a cheapy at a flea market
[15:55] <techwizrd> Dr_Willis, thanks
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> sourya:  you use your router to connect to the other 'router' and it shares that one connection to the rest of the pcs
[15:55] <penguin42> ganeshran: Is that the right link? That's still the Grub menu
[15:56] <ChogyDan> Guest95854: whats wrong?
[15:56] <Matthes_> techwizrd: dpkg: error processing libsdl-image1.2-dev (--remove): cannot remove `/.': Invalid argument
[15:56] <Matthes_> Errors were encountered while processing: libsdl-image1.2-dev
[15:56] <Guest95854> upgraded to meerkat and lost X
[15:56] <Matthes_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:56] <ganeshran> penguin42, oh i am sorry. this is right link http://img508.imageshack.us/i/20101010201229722bengal.jpg/
[15:56] <sourya> Jiohdi &Dr_Willis: Yeah, I could do that. Thanks
[15:57] <penguin42> ganeshran: OK, and does ctrl-alt-f1 work at that point?
[15:57] <ChogyDan> Guest95854: have you tried startx?
[15:57] <techwizrd> Matthes_, Try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lbsdl-image1.2-dev && sudo apt-get remove --purge libsdl-image1.2-dev'
[15:57] <Guest95854> kept giving me "Error: Invalid character in revision name" while upgrading
[15:57] <ganeshran> penguin42, no nothing at all works. even ctrl-alt-del
[15:57] <cousin_mario> hello
[15:57] <Guest95854> yup, no nvidia module found
[15:57] <ganeshran> penguin42, no key is working in gnome menu
[15:57] <cousin_mario> how do I replace the bootsplash? the default one is ugly as sin
[15:57] <techwizrd> Matthes_, Paste everything the single quotes in the terminal and paste the output on pastie.org
[15:58] <ritztech>  hmmm is there a way when i do a tail -f auto enter 5 times every 10 seconds
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> cousin_mario:  thats Plymouth these days
[15:58] <penguin42> ganeshran: OK, and if you use the recovery mode you still get this?
[15:58] <ritztech> is that look a for loop
[15:58] <MohammadAG> cupis, Dr_Willis not getting any updates with apt or update-manager (even with -d, though that shouldn't be needed afaik)
[15:58] <uLinux> why do ppl use Sun Virtualbox instead of OSE?
[15:58] <ganeshran> penguin42, if i log into the recovery mode - here is what happens - http://img98.imageshack.us/i/20101010201414631bengal.jpg/
[15:58] <ChogyDan> Guest95854: have you tried mv xorg.conf xorg.con.backup?
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> MohammadAG:  no idea. i do clean installs.. other have had similer issues.. they were advised to wait a bit and see if the updates kick in.
[15:58] <duffydack> cousin_mario, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?s=plymouth
[15:58] <erUSUL> uLinux: usb passthrough support mainly
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> MohammadAG:  what does lsb_release -a say your version is?
[15:59] <cupis> MohammadAG, you are probably up-to-date
[15:59] <uLinux> erUSUL: it detects the pendrives?
[15:59] <penguin42> ganeshran: OK, so you're going to boot from the install CD/usb and either reinstall or you might be able to rescue it
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> Description:Ubuntu 10.10
[15:59] <ganeshran> penguin42, here also nothing works
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> Release:10.10
[15:59] <Guest95854> nope hadn't thought of it. it does say there's no nvidia module though and the splash screen is in text mode
[15:59] <cousin_mario> duffydack: how do I install it?
[15:59] <MohammadAG> Dr_Willis, 10.10
[15:59] <taasj> Hmm, any idea why both the RC and Final amd64 desktop ISOs (both torrent and direct) ends up corrupted for me? Could it be because I burn the CD on a 32-bit system?
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> MohammadAG:  there ya go...
[15:59] <pdidboatdance> does 10.10 have multi touch touchpad support built in?
[15:59] <cousin_mario> and where on earth is medibuntu anyway?
[15:59] <MohammadAG> which is odd, since I upgraded yesterday
[15:59] <penguin42> ganeshran: Power down during an install is never easy to fix
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> !medibuntu
[15:59] <ganeshran> penguin42, can i use the 10.04 install. is there a chance or recovery?
[16:00] <Matthes_> techwizrd: http://pastebin.com/9dAKfqXd
[16:00] <erUSUL> uLinux: a pendrive is usually not a problem; ipods/phones/ devices with only windows drivers etc ...
[16:00] <cousin_mario> Dr_Willis: I mean there is no support for maverick yet
[16:00] <MohammadAG> actually no, the day before
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> cousin_mario:  oh? Hmm.. i thought i got it setup here...
[16:00] <penguin42> ganeshran: I think you have a chance of recovering it if you use a 10.10 boot CD, I doubt you could rescue it with a 10.04 if it's half upgraded
[16:00] <techwizrd> Guest95854, Shouldn't the open-source nvidia drivers be loaded on startup
[16:00] <penguin42> ganeshran: Do you know how to use chroot ?
[16:00] <pdidboatdance> !chroot
[16:00]  * MohammadAG looks into ways of using ndiswrapper, the broadcom drivers are shit
[16:00] <Guest95854> it was in lucid
[16:00] <TomatoIN> hello! how do I update from 10.04? I have opened the update manager but I get nothing that says to update
[16:01] <pdidboatdance> tomator
[16:01] <duffydack> cousin_mario, instructions are included.
[16:01] <pdidboatdance> sudo update-manager -d
[16:01] <ganeshran> penguin42, no. how do i do it? I can look it up though. Will it be useful for recovery?
[16:01] <erUSUL> TomatoIN: check the software sources the updates tab.
[16:01] <edbian> TomatoIN, You have to go into software sources and change it to include all releases not just LTS
[16:01] <syron> alt + f2  then type  update-manager -d
[16:01] <BlaDe^> Can I setup an sftp account just for the /var/www directory without giving root or ssh etc?
[16:01] <huntz0r> Quick question, anyone know where the md5sums are for 10.10?
[16:01] <pdidboatdance> ubuntu.com
[16:01] <pdidboatdance> :-D
[16:01] <huntz0r> no way! :D
[16:01] <erUSUL> TomatoIN: you have to enable normal revisions; by default is set to check for LTS's
[16:01] <psusi> huntz0r, same place they always are: right beside the iso
[16:02] <TomatoIN> erUSUL, how do I do that?
[16:02] <aeon-ltd> huntz0r: yeah way!
[16:02] <tommis> how do i chance file owner in ubuntu?
[16:02] <cousin_mario> duffydack: ok
[16:02] <cupis> TomatoIN, run update-manager and go to Settings - change to enable non-LTS versions
[16:02] <erUSUL> TomatoIN: System>Admin...>Software sources. third tab at the bottom
[16:02] <edbian> tommis, chown fileName
[16:02] <iflema> TomatoIN in a terminal     sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[16:02] <l3dx> I'm trying to install using PXE, but get "[Errno 5] Input/output error" when copying of files is starting
[16:02] <huntz0r> aeon-ltd, ah, can't see the wood for the trees, cheers
[16:02] <tommis> edpian but there is like 200 files
[16:02] <penguin42> ganeshran: So read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot   and what you'll need to do is to mount your root directory (/dev/sda6 I think from those screenshots?) in a directory, mount /proc and /dev underneath and chroot in, you should then be able to use apt-get to continue the installation - it's quite tricky though
[16:02] <tommis> edbian,
[16:03] <jacobw> hello, i'm having trouble updating from RC, apt-get update says http://is.gd/fUY3t
[16:03] <uLinux> what is the name for on Ubuntu?
[16:03] <edbian> tommis,
[16:03] <tommis> edbian, yes?
[16:03] <uLinux> there is username and hostname but the name?
[16:03] <TomatoIN> thank you guys!!!
[16:03] <geckopunk> Does anyone know if the app Earthworm wp_tray has been obsoleted?
[16:03] <edbian> tommis, You said my name!
[16:03] <techwizrd> tommis, You can just move all 200 in a folder and 'chown * tommis'
 edpian but there is like 200 files
[16:03] <ganeshran> penguin42, i am a linux beginner dont think i will be able to do all this. If i use a 10.04 install, will I be able to recover my files in documents folder
[16:03] <edbian> tommis, chown ownerName *   (make sure you're in that folder)
[16:03] <cupis> jacobw, you should be able to ignore that error
[16:04] <edbian> tommis, chown ownerName /path/to/folder/with/files/*
[16:04] <cortex> I'm running update-manager, but don't see 10.10 in it, and update-manager -d says it will install a RC, is 10.10 still trickling down to mirrors?
[16:04] <penguin42> ganeshran: If you boot off either the 10.10 or 10.04 discs you should be able to mount your hard disk and find the documents folder
[16:04] <beilby> how do I update from 10.10 alpha 3 to full release?
[16:04] <edbian> cortex, Go into software sources.  Change it from LTS only releases to normal releases.  Redo update manager
[16:04] <xangua> beilby: just run update
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> cortex:  some servers are not updated fully yet.
[16:04] <cupis> beilby, just do normal update
[16:04] <erUSUL> !final | beilby
[16:04] <ganeshran> ok cool i will try it
[16:04] <tommis> edbian, but does it work if folders are inside of folders?
[16:04] <DJones> beilby: As long as you keep updating, you'll have the final release
[16:04] <ChogyDan> cortex: just torrent the alt cd, and upgrade with that
[16:04] <iflema> cortex maybe.... try   sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> beilby:  sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade,  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     is how i did it
[16:05] <ikonia> iflema: no
[16:05] <ikonia> iflema: that is an upgrade to a development release
[16:05] <cupis> cortex, possibly, you should be able to just update to that, or what for the update
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> someone updated the bot factoid to be natty allready? :)
[16:05] <edbian> tommis, chmod -R ownerName /path/to/folder/*
[16:05] <edbian> tommis, :)  man cmod
[16:05] <cortex> edbian: thanks, that did it!
[16:06] <geckopunk> I'm trying to download Eartworm's wp_tray from http://wildbill.nulldevice.net/ubuntu/wp-tray_0.4.6-1_i386.deb
[16:06] <edbian> cortex, No problem. :)
[16:06] <JusTerminal> hi...how could I do this via terminal: replace filename "old_text" "new_text"
[16:06] <JusTerminal> ?
[16:06] <KenBW2> I set off some files copying from one folder. When I came back the screen was black and wasn't responding. I did a REISUB to reboot and now i get "Missing Operating System" on boot. Any ideas?
[16:06] <edbian> JusTerminal, mv oldName newName
[16:06] <geckopunk> my konsole says that Package libgnutls11 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[16:06] <erUSUL> JusTerminal: rename a file? replace the text inside the file ?
[16:06] <edbian> KenBW2, Your grub is gone.
[16:06] <JusTerminal> yeah
[16:07] <JusTerminal> replace the text inside a file
[16:07] <geckopunk> does anyone know of the pkg that replaces libgnutls11?
[16:07] <MohammadAG> sed, nano, vi, gedit (easiest to use)
[16:07] <penguin42> geckopunk: libgnutls26 ?
[16:07] <geckopunk> thanks... i'll see if I can use that Penguin
[16:07] <JusTerminal> need to do it in a script
[16:07] <KenBW2> edbian: does that still apply if when running a LiveCD it doesnt show the HDDs?
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> JusTerminal:  'sed' is designed for taht sort of task
[16:08] <russlar> sed ftw
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> JusTerminal:  i recall some script called 'gres'  for a specific case of changing simple strings. (it used sed i think)
[16:08] <geckopunk> my konsole is saying: libgnutls26 is already the newest version.
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> JusTerminal:  but that was old skool stuff :)
[16:09] <uLinux> what's the use of Name in Ubuntu? is it just for Applications?
[16:09] <penguin42> JusTerminal: sed -e s/'oldstring/newstring' < oldfile > newfile
[16:09] <penguin42> hey why did that ' go over there
[16:09] <pr0xy> wtf? I'm trying to instal 10.10 and I get as far as the install but then I get a bunch of green blue red and black dots.
[16:09] <uLinux> realname
[16:09] <penguin42> JusTerminal: sed -e 's/oldstring/newstring' < oldfile > newfile
[16:09] <MohammadAG> or sed -i to edit an existing file
[16:09] <penguin42> better
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> pr0xy:  whats your video chipset?
[16:10] <russlar> penguin42: i think you need a /g at the end of teh sed string
[16:10] <Alan> Ok, what the hell is wrong with acpid? it works differently if i run it manually than if it's run as a service..
[16:10] <geckopunk> wp-tray: Depends: libgnutls11 (>= 1.0.16) but it is not installable...Depends: libtasn1-2 (>= 0.2.8) but it is not installable
[16:10] <pr0xy> i'm using the onboard because the gt240 isn't supported or something
[16:10] <abe> Hi, everybody! I am getting blank screen at the startup of ubuntu. There's no splash screen. Does anybody have any idea, why does it happen?
[16:11] <Diehard> abe: does the terminal offer you login?
[16:11] <aeon-ltd> abe: got any other gpus to try?
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> pr0xy:  for my nvidia cards i have to enable the 'nomodeset' option from the boot menu to let the live cd work properly so i can install.
[16:11] <pr0xy> how
[16:11] <abe> Diehard: yes
[16:11] <Matthes_> techwizrd: any ideas what I can do? :)
[16:11] <Doonz> what ports need to be opend for remote desktop in 10.4
[16:11] <Doonz> and how can i specify a non standard port in 10.4
[16:11] <Diehard> abe: after login try to run "startx"
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> pr0xy:  at the boot menus.. thers an option to enable other options.. hit space. then F6 i think
[16:12] <geckopunk> is there a better app for automatically changing wallpapers instead of wp_tray?
[16:12] <MohammadAG> F6 -> other options -> nomodeset=1 pr0xy
[16:12] <Nepherius> gpt a newb question , if I have debian and want to install ubuntu , can I do that without formating home ?
[16:12] <Zopieux> hi
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> Doonz:  over the internet? or a local lan?
[16:12] <erUSUL> Nepherius: probably
[16:12] <OpenSourcedNick> is there a way to get notified when a Terminal finishes a job?
[16:12] <Diehard> abe: I had the problem many times with my nvidia card, everytime this happend had to reinstall drivers
[16:12] <Doonz> over the internet
[16:12] <pr0xy> should my gt230 be enabled or disabled in BIOS?
[16:12] <Zopieux> do you think i can install maverick via netinstall?
[16:12] <edbian> Nepherius, Is /home a separate partition?
[16:12] <Doonz> Dr_Willis: over the internet
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> Doonz:  you will want to ssh tunnle the vnc connection, or use that freenx tool.
[16:12] <Zopieux> are the required files ok?
[16:12] <Nepherius> yes edbian
[16:12] <MohammadAG> live CD works for GT230M here
[16:13] <MohammadAG> at least 10.04's
[16:13] <Doonz> why do i need to tunnel it
[16:13] <Diehard> abe: if you get stuck at: "no screens found", try to download and install your graphic driver again
[16:13] <edbian> Nepherius, It's ext3 I presume?  Then it should be fine.  Just tell Ubuntu that you have separate /home (and point Ubuntu to it) at install time.
[16:13] <Guest79222> how can I tell if I'm still using the RC or if I'm using the full thing?
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> pr0xy:  My  360M works. I have to use that nomodeset. due to some plymouth issue I think
[16:13] <ubuntu> salut
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> Doonz:  you dont want to vnc straight across the internet without some security
[16:13] <jacobw> cupis: sorry i missed your reply! so this error won't prevent apt-get upgrade functioning correctly?
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> !vnc
[16:13] <Doonz> *sigh*
[16:13] <abe> Diehard:actually i can login automatically in ubuntu, my problem is that idono tget the splash screen
[16:13] <edbian> Guest79222, That speaks very highly about the quality of the RC :)
[16:13] <pr0xy> Dr_Willis What is plymouth anyway?
[16:13] <jongleur> hi. any suggestions why the upgrade to 10.10 destroyed my dual screen setup?
[16:13] <comicinker> how do I get 3d acceleration with my nvidea GeForce 8300 GS card? installing the restricted driver leads to a black screen after reboot....
[16:14] <Nepherius> so it wont cause any trouble ?:
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> pr0xy:  the silly eye candy animation at the start of bootup
[16:14] <Guest79222> edbian, I was very happy with the RC :D
[16:14] <Nepherius> and yes its ext3
[16:14] <Doonz> Ok how about answering my question?
[16:14] <Diehard> abe: what about ctrl+alt+f7 ?
[16:14] <abe> i heard that in ubuntu 10.04 they have added plymouth
[16:14] <geckopunk> does anyone know of any IPSec VPN Clients for Ubuntu?
[16:14] <padhu> jongleur: reinstall grub
[16:14] <n8w> how do i openoffice from via cmd?
[16:14] <russlar> geckopunk: vpnc
[16:14] <Doonz> What Ports Does Remote desktop use as well as where can i specify an Alternate port
[16:14] <abe> initially i had errors like plymouth closed unexpectedly
[16:14] <phre> hey guys i don't have the 2 D ubuntu in the start menu how can i activate it ?
[16:14] <geckopunk> okay... I have that one... just making sure
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> n8w:  the command is like oowrite or oodraw or oo* for the various parts of open office
[16:15] <russlar> geckopunk: google pcf2vpnc to get a script that'll convert your .pcf profiles into vpnc profiles
[16:15] <defrysk> padhu, dual screen has  nothing to do with grub
[16:15] <ionut> hei. i have a netbook hp pavilion dv6000. do you raccomand me to install ubuntu netbook edition?
[16:15] <pr0xy> so there should be an X by nomodeset?
[16:15] <geckopunk> thank you russlar
[16:15] <aeon-ltd> n8w: /usr/bin/(name of open office app) press tab (mauybe twice to get all options)
[16:15] <OpenSourcedNick> is there a way to get notified when a Terminal finishes a job?
[16:15] <jongleur> defrysk: thanks - I wondered about that answer, too...
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> pr0xy:  i used  that option just now to get my nvidia based laptop booting..
[16:15] <aeon-ltd> ionut: only if you'd like to, or if you think its easier
[16:15] <Diehard> ionut: netbook = netbook edition
[16:15] <abe> Diehard:then i updated my system, and still the problem is like before, i do not get the purple colored splash creen
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> pr0xy:  if i dont . then i dont get a display. just colored bars and dots
[16:15] <penguin42> russlar: Good point
[16:16] <pr0xy> ok. trying with nomodeset
[16:16] <padhu> defrysk: yes :-D
[16:16] <defrysk> jongleur, he got confused with dual boot i guess
[16:16] <Diehard> abe: you must reinstall your drivers .. what graphic card you have?
[16:16] <jongleur> ;) yes
[16:16] <pr0xy> jesus that's ugly as hell
[16:16] <jongleur> well - both screens are used at current, but I cannot figure out how to set them up correctly.
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> pr0xy:  i have to install with that optuion. but  then after i get the nvidia drivers installed. i dont need it any more for the working system
[16:16] <ionut> aeon-ltd:  Diehard do you think it would be faster ?
[16:16] <n8w> aeon-ltd:  ooo yes thats was it...thx a lot
[16:16] <Diehard> ionut: It's optimized for netbooks
[16:16] <russianzilla> I've been looking around on the forums just to be sure, but have there been any outstanding issues with in-place upgrades so far?
[16:17] <abe> I do not have external grafix card, mine is intel chipset with onborad grafix
[16:17] <aeon-ltd> n8w: your welcome
[16:17] <abe> how to update them?
[16:17] <pr0xy> the ugly as hell option with Ubuntu 10.10 and 4 dots underneath?
[16:17] <Diehard> abe: just search google for the exact drivers
[16:17] <aeon-ltd> ionut: its abou the same really, its still gnome, the only way speed would change is if you change gnome to another desktop environment or window manager
[16:17] <jongleur> the bigger one is used for 3/4th in width, but the logical screen seems to start 1/3rd in width at the smaller one - so maximizing windows is strange
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> pr0xy:  thats Plymouth
[16:17] <russlar> Diehard: abe's using intel graphics
[16:17] <pr0xy> wow. so nomodeset makes plymouth fugly?
[16:18] <russlar> abe: do you have a core iX cpu, with integrated gpu?
[16:18] <JusTerminal> how could I copy all contents inside a folder into another folder but a subfolder?
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> pr0xy:  it lets plymouth work with nvidia cards....  so you can install..
[16:18] <abe> Diehard:i have another problem of the screen resolution
[16:18] <Diehard> russlar: &? you also need drivers for them
[16:18] <JusTerminal> and how could I remove all contents inside a folder but a subfolder?
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> pr0xy:  theres some sort  of plmouth/nvidia/novau (?) issues...
[16:18] <abe> russlar:no, i have dual core cpu E5300
[16:18] <ronny> hi
[16:18] <ionut> aeon-ltd: tnx. btw, i installed the 10.10 version. and is really nice. but , they didn't keeped the unity interface?
[16:19] <GlenP> ok  Im the linux newbe.   I have Ubuntu 10.04 on my box right now  do I have to download the new version and put it on a disk to up grade to the newer version?
[16:19] <edbian> JusTerminal, rm /path/to/folder/*
[16:19] <allu2> JusTerminal: i don't understand what you ask, you want to cut folders content and move it to other folders sub folder?
[16:19] <russlar> abe: make sure that you have the xorg-xserver-intel package installed
[16:19] <Diehard> abe: what mainboard do you have?
[16:19] <edbian> JusTerminal, It won't remove recursively because you didn't give that flag.
[16:19] <russlar> abe: *name is approximate
[16:19] <cupis> GlenP, you can upgrade over the internet
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> GlenP:  you dont have to upgrade if you dont want to.
[16:19] <GlenP> how do you do that?
[16:19] <aeon-ltd> ionut: not sure, but they probably have a good reason for changing it
[16:19] <pr0xy> nouveau? I have to find an ethernet cord. also should I dl updates in install and use the third party software?
[16:19] <ronny> updating to 10.10 disabled/broke audio input for my Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) in my Dell XPS M1330 - an hints on fixing?
[16:19] <abe> Diehard: My main board is Mercury g31
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> pr0xy:  not sure there are any updates at this time.. i always enable 3rd party
[16:20] <defrysk> GlenP, if you want to upgrade a fresh install after backup is the fastest and savest option
[16:20] <cupis> GlenP, if you want to upgrade, run the Update Manager and change the setting to "normal" instead of "long term support"
[16:20] <ionut> aeon-ltd: ya... is better without it. i don't know why my computer is so slow with this version. i don't like it at all...
[16:20] <ronny> (i updated from 10.04 where stuff was fine)
[16:20] <Merf> hey, everyone!  New to chat, but not Linux.  Put Netbook 10.10 on a usb stick, but all I get when I start my netbook from the stick is the copywrite line and it stops cold.  Ideas?
[16:20] <penguin42> ronny: Try running ubuntu-bug sound
[16:20] <ionut> aeon-ltd: the version merkat maveerick..
[16:20] <abe> russlar: one moment, i will check
[16:20] <GlenP> k  thanks all
[16:20] <cupis> GlenP, then run Alt-F2 "update-manager -c" to actually upgrade
[16:20] <penguin42> ronny: It's supposed to walk through some steps of figuting out what's wrong
[16:21] <trism> OpenSourcedNick: actually yes, there is a new alert bash alias in maverick, if you clean installed you should already have it, otherwise you can copy it to your ~/.bashrc from /etc/skel/.bashrc, it lets you run commands like: command; alert; and it will send a desktop notification when it completes
[16:21] <ronny> penguin42: complains about a missing package
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> Hmm servers are so overloaded.. I cent insdtall the nvida drivers.. :) gettting timeouts...
[16:21] <penguin42> ronny: Which one?
[16:21] <LorD-AcE> hi, i tried to install my netgear wg311v3 wlan-card via ndiswrapper, but when i try to use modprobe ndiswrapper, i got an errer FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found, i did like in this discrioption https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3
[16:21] <Flynsarmy> Didn't need to do an apt-get dist-upgrade from the RC. that sound right or have I done something wrong?
[16:21] <ronny> penguin42: no idea starting it without param and selecting works
[16:21] <aeon-ltd> ionut: yeah, unr is really more aesthetics than a quick solution for netbooks
[16:21] <sharplinux> GlenP: you might also want to select an alternative mirror - from Upgrade Manager, click Settings... and select Other from the Download From menu
[16:21] <defrysk> Flynsarmy, sounds right to me
[16:22] <miles_redfield> is there a terminal command to check the current version of ubuntu?
[16:22] <Matthes_> someone here who can help me getring rif of a broken dependency ? more information: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=333
[16:22] <GlenP> thanks sharp
[16:22] <aeon-ltd> ionut: i've seen many users go 'raw' with there netbooks, essentially running nothing but the absolute neccessary
[16:22] <danyR> miles_redfield: lsb_release -a
[16:22] <edbian> miles_redfield, cat /etc/version
[16:22] <fep> Hello, in 10.04 they have removed the 3D cube, is this still not implemented in 10.10? i miss it!
[16:22] <ionut> aeon-ltd: what do you mean by "raw" ?
[16:22] <aeon-ltd> !compiz | fep
[16:23] <fep> ok, thanks
[16:23] <miles_redfield> danyR, thanks
[16:23] <mvk> i got 10.04 and i would like to upgrade to 10.10
[16:23] <Flynsarmy> fep: lol, ppl love that damn cube
[16:23] <mvk> what should i do?
[16:23] <miles_redfield> edbian, no such file. :/
[16:23] <abe> russlar: i have the package naming xserver-xorg-video-intel
[16:23] <fep> Flynsarmy, then is it implemented in 10.10 ?
[16:23] <beilby> miles_redfield
[16:23] <sharplinux> someone might tell ubottu about upgrading from LTS to a normal release :-)
[16:23] <edbian> miles_redfield, Well I just found that I have /etc/debian_version    so I'm not sure if you can do it from cli?
[16:23] <defrysk> miles_redfield, cat /etc/issue.net
[16:23] <beilby> miles_redfield
[16:23] <cupis> mvk, run update-manager, change the settings to allow non-LTS versions, then run update-manager -c to upgrdae
[16:23] <zatan> How can i check what i am using ALSA or PULSEAUDIO ?
[16:23] <Flynsarmy> fep: unsure, although compizconfig-settings-manager might be a useful package to install
[16:23] <aeon-ltd> ionut: using ground up distros, like ubuntu server, arch linux, crux, debian server etc, distros that start with nothing but basic tools to get online and a package manager
[16:24] <beilby> miles_redfield
[16:24] <beilby> cat /etc/issue
[16:24] <c3l> sharplinux: is there something special about upgrading from a LTS?
[16:24] <shaa> is it possible to uninstall all user installed applications?
[16:24] <fep> Flynsarmy, i have installed it, but i cant figure out how to enable the 3d cube, in 10.04 it was totally removed from compiz
[16:24] <aeon-ltd> ionut: usually though it would take hours to use a ground up distro rather than 30min ubuntu install
[16:24] <miles_redfield> beilby, cat /etc/issue.net, got it
[16:24] <edbian> aeon-ltd, arch is ground up.  Ubuntu and Debian def aren't
[16:24] <allu2> mvk: google? http://www.ubunturoot.com/2010/05/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-1004-to-ubuntu.html first hit
[16:24] <miles_redfield> lol, cat.
[16:24] <LorD-AcE> hi, i tried to install my netgear wg311v3 wlan-card via ndiswrapper, but when i try to use modprobe ndiswrapper, i got an errer FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found, i did like in this discrioption https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3
[16:24] <l3dx> I have some trouble doing a PXE install. more here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592145
[16:24] <ykphuah> is meerkat 32 bit supporting PAE by default yet?
[16:24] <OpenSourcedNick> trism, I copied the file to ~/.bashrc, what do I do now?
[16:24] <mvk> cupis: thats already enabled!
[16:24] <abe> russlar: so, any ideas?
[16:24] <brunowowk> Hello. I'm having problems with Maverick (tried RC1 and Final Release): After a fresh install all runs smoothly, on reboot grub works dual booting mine windows 7 x64. The problem is: after the first ubuntu sistem update, (done using the update assistent without further customizations, with and download of ~174 MB) upon reboot I get to grub minimal bash, unable to boot both ubuntu and windows. I'm running a HP Pavillion Dv4 notebook. 
[16:24] <mvk> its on 'normal releases'
[16:24] <sharplinux> c3l: not really - an LTS just doesn't prompt automatically unless it's manually set to do so
[16:25] <ronny> hmm
[16:25] <ionut> aeon-ltd: you are right. whatever, i like ubuntu. and i would never change it with another operating system
[16:25] <cupis> mvk, so run update-manager -c
[16:25] <ronny> ok, pulse wont find input devices
[16:25] <russlar> abe: no. intel onboard is usually in teh category of "just works"
[16:25] <MagicJ> I am getting a message that "the bookmarks and history will not be functional" when I enter firefox.  any guesses
[16:25] <Putr> Hi I'm looking for a good "WYSIWYG html editor" for ubuntu.. any suggestions?
[16:25] <ronny> russlar: not here
[16:25] <erUSUL> !html | Putr
[16:25] <russlar> ronny: aparently ;)
[16:25] <trism> OpenSourcedNick: start a new terminal, check the command: alias; to make sure you have the alert alias, then run a command: command; alert; , replacing command with the command you want to run, like wget http://www.something.com/somefile; alert
[16:25] <padhu> Putr: bulefish
[16:26] <aeon-ltd> ionut: ok, to each their own :)
[16:26] <OpenSourcedNick> whaaaaaa
[16:26] <JusTerminal> how could i remove all the contents in a folder but a file?
[16:26] <Matthes_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591977  How do I get rid of that broken dependencie?
[16:26] <aeon-ltd> edbian: ubuntu server and debian server, its pretty ground up
[16:26] <OpenSourcedNick> trism: too many times the word command was mentioned in that sentence
[16:27] <ehamberg> i upgraded to 10.10 netbook ed. and now my clock is suddely 12h. i cannot find how i set it to 24h again. help? :)
[16:27] <Flynsarmy> Is there a roadmap for 11.04?
[16:27] <edbian> aeon-ltd, I disagree.
[16:27] <aeon-ltd> JusTerminal: how many files?, how are they named? and graphical or cli
[16:27] <trism> OpenSourcedNick: yes, I agree, sorry, just paste "; alert" to the end of your terminal command, without the quotes
[16:27] <allu2> mvk: open update-manager, goto settings, remove the check from only long time supports (or like that) and see what happens?
[16:27] <Putr> erUSUL: padhu : thanks!
[16:27] <russlar> Flynsarmy: only thing I can think of is whether or not gnome3 is ready
[16:27]  * allu2 is not sure about that
[16:27] <padhu> yw
[16:28] <aeon-ltd> edbian: meh, we are speaking using relative terms so its kinda hard to convey across properly. but yeah your entitled to your opinion
[16:28] <OpenSourcedNick> trism: alert command not found
[16:28] <Flynsarmy> russlar: not really looking forward to that, however i wasn't looking forward to the redesign either (or buttons on the left) but ended up being pretty good
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. The Plymouhth screen dosent seem to be using the Ubuntu Font.. or am i just no looking at it close enought. it flashes by so fast
[16:28] <Tullball> hi, i have a problem with my new ubuntu-desktop. the sound makes "cracky" noises sometimes. ideas?
[16:28] <trism> OpenSourcedNick: source your ~/.bashrc first, or start a new terminal; . ~/.bashrc
[16:28] <helpneeded>  hi guys. i need some help. I was trying to create a bootable flash drive using unetbootin. It said done. However it showed boot error. That apart, now i cannot open the drive, it does not show up in gparted, and i cannot format it! lsusb however detects it.
[16:28] <helpneeded> anyone?
[16:28] <brunowowk> get to grub bash upon rebooting after first sys update on Maverick (fresh install). Anyone else got this?
[16:28] <trism> OpenSourcedNick: and run: alias; to make sure you have the alert alias
[16:28] <meerkater> hey all, i installed ubuntu 10.10 without any problems, very nice, thank you, however: I changed the button layout in the titlebar using the corresponding key via gconf-editor, however, metacity ignores my new settings - so how can i change the layout?
[16:29] <Matthes_> How can I fix a broken dependency? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591977
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> !controls | mercenary
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> !controls | meerkater
[16:29] <penguin42> brunowowk: What exactly do you mean by grub bash - what exactly do you see?
[16:29] <OpenSourcedNick> trism: I don't have alert alias
[16:29] <russlar> Flynsarmy: meh. I was an early KDE4 user
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> Heh.. to fast on the tab
[16:29] <russlar> Flynsarmy: you'll get used to it
[16:29] <russlar> Flynsarmy: just buy a really big can of Raid for the bugs ;)
[16:30] <OpenSourcedNick> trism: I don't want to bug you too much, if you have a page that guides for that I'll try it on my own :)
[16:30] <LorD-AcE> hi, i tried to install my netgear wg311v3 wlan-card via ndiswrapper, but when i try to use modprobe ndiswrapper, i got an errer FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found, i did like in this discrioption https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3
[16:30] <penguin42> Matthes_: I'd probably try removing x11-xkb-utils and see what happened
[16:30] <shaa> is it possible to uninstall all user installed applications?
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> shaa:  how can a user install an application? except to their own home dir..
[16:30] <Flynsarmy> russlar: tough words coming from a KDE user :) KDE4 didn't exactly get a great rap in the news ;)
[16:30] <edbian> LorD-AcE, Install the package ndiswrapper.
[16:30] <brunowowk> after rebooting, instead of the boot selection i get to grub minimal bash, with the message :
[16:30] <brunowowk> [Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported
[16:30] <brunowowk> For the first world, TAB lists possible command completions.Anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a device/filename]
[16:30] <LorD-AcE> i already did
[16:30] <meerkater> that does not work for me, Dr_Willis
[16:30] <shaa> root
[16:30] <Doonz> What Ports Does Remote desktop use as well as where can i specify an Alternate port
[16:30] <shaa> aptitude installed
[16:30] <Doonz> this is for 10.4
[16:30] <meerkater> and i think i didn't do anything diffrent by firing up gconf-editor, did i?
[16:31] <penguin42> brunowowk: Oh OK, so it's still in Grub - not good
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> meerkater:   theres some tools that let you tweak them also with a gui. Ubuntu-tweak is one such tool
[16:31] <shaa> so remove all things that didnt come stock with my lucid install. yes 10.04
[16:31] <russlar> Flynsarmy: distros adopted it too early. KDE said that 4.0 was essentially a dev preview release
[16:31] <steinex> Facebook is broken in Gwibber on 10.10 JUST AGAIN
[16:31] <steinex> HGNNNNN
[16:31] <meerkater> ah ok
[16:31] <penguin42> brunowowk: That suggests it can't find your grub configuration files for some reason
[16:31] <meerkater> i'll try that, thank you very much
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> shaa:  you remove things installed via the package manafger, with the package manager tools also..
[16:31] <penguin42> brunowowk: What's your disk setup?
[16:31] <Matthes_> penguin42: I it is not installed according to synaptic,   I have no package installed according to synaptic o.o
[16:31] <ugliefrog> well im fresh ubuntu 10.10
[16:31] <pr0xy> fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff. This is taking friggin' forevah!!!
[16:31] <gilaniali> whats the difference between ubuntu 10.04 and server edition?
[16:31] <fep> server irc.homelien.no
[16:31] <trism> OpenSourcedNick: I don't have any guides, I got the info from this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/+bug/315932
[16:32] <shaa> but to scan on scan to remove only the ones that would not be there in the first place
[16:32] <penguin42> Matthes_: what does dpkg -l say about it?
[16:32] <ikonia> pr0xy: stop it please
[16:32] <shaa> like you'd do with
[16:32] <helpneeded>  hi guys. i need some help. I was trying to create a bootable flash drive using unetbootin. It said done. However it showed boot error. That apart, now i cannot open the drive, it does not show up in gparted, and i cannot format it! lsusb however detects it. PLS need help...
[16:32] <shaa> rm -f (ls -a | grep fire)
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> !maual | pr0xy   Go read this...
[16:32] <penguin42> gilaniali: Just the selection of which packages are installed
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> !manual | pr0xy   Go read this...
[16:32] <padhu> gilaniali: Desktop and sever
[16:32] <trism> OpenSourcedNick: you need this alias: http://pastebin.com/dYzm5t32 in your ~/.bashrc, and you probably need libnotify-bin installed too, because that has notify-send
[16:32] <gilaniali> penguin42: what particular packages are installed?
[16:32] <brunowowk> penguin42 3 ntfs partitions for windows, 3 for ubuntu: reiserfs for root, ext4 for /home and swap
[16:33] <shaa> tasksel
[16:33] <shaa> might do it
[16:33] <Matthes_> penguin42: http://pastebin.com/wsmC1eXB
[16:33] <penguin42> gilaniali: I don't know the list
[16:33] <flames> how to install libnetutil/libnetutil.a in ubuntu 10.10
[16:33] <ganeshran> penguin42: Hi I am trying to create a linux install drive using unetbootin
[16:33] <shaa> part of it...
[16:33] <ganeshran> penguin42: will this help recover all my data and rollback to 10.04
[16:33] <Tullball> hi, i have a problem with my new ubuntu-desktop. the sound makes "cracky" noises sometimes. ideas?
[16:33] <trism> OpenSourcedNick: then you can test it with: sleep 10; alert
[16:33] <JusTerminal> shaa...were u talking to me?
[16:34] <flames> how to install libnetutil/libnetutil.a in ubuntu 10.10
[16:34] <Matthes_> penguin42: maybe my package list is broken somehow?
[16:34] <OpenSourcedNick> oh turns out I still have to install libnotify wait
[16:34] <penguin42> brunowowk: I'd try booting off an install disk and reinstalling grub
[16:34] <subone> I am trying to add a folder to /mnt/external/Projects, but nautilus says "input/output error". So I tried to delete the Projects folder and it says "Directory not empty", but there's nothing in the directory. How can I fix whatever files may be in the directory, or otherwise fix this?
[16:34] <penguin42> Matthes_: Is that all it shows?!
[16:34] <Matthes_> penguin42: yes :S
[16:34] <penguin42> Matthes_: Youch!
[16:34] <thelung> has anybody been having problems with 10.10 download hanging up in the last 10-20 mb's????  I've had the rc version hanging since last night..  and amd64 version's been hanging for 2 hours at 664..
[16:34] <kholo> Hello
[16:34] <Flynsarmy> subone: sudo rm -f /mnt/external/Projects
[16:34] <penguin42> Matthes_: Mine lists 3000 packages
[16:35] <pr0xy> Dr_Willis The install is taking forever.
[16:35] <Flynsarmy> subone: errr, sudo rm -rf /mnt/external/Projects
[16:35] <flames> some body help me to install libnetutil/libnetutil.a in ubuntu 10.10
[16:35] <mvk> is there a command i can run in shell to see if im on R.C. ?
[16:35] <subone> Isn't there a way to see what files it says are in there, despite it not showing any files?
[16:35] <erUSUL> !version
[16:35] <jbroome> mvk: if apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't show any new pkgs you're there
[16:35] <pr0xy> it's been like 20 minutes and i'm really bored.
[16:35] <ikonia> mvk: lsb_release -a
[16:35] <brunowowk> penguin42 how can I do that? mounting all partitions and chrooting to the reiserfs one?
[16:36] <mvk> jbroome: but didnt receive any packages in the last two days
[16:36] <ikonia> pr0xy: do something else instead of moaning about it in a support channel
[16:36] <ganeshran> hi is it possible to recover ubuntu installation from Unetbootin usb?
[16:36] <ghollo> hi, in 10.10 the nvidea driver does not work with my GeForce 8300. Any suggestions? Please help!
[16:36] <penguin42> brunowowk: Yeh, make sure /proc and /dev is mounted and try running update-grub
[16:36] <mvk> ghollo: isnt that onboard?!!?
[16:36] <LukeL> I didn't read that X.org 1.9 won't work with nvidia-96, is there a way to use an older X.org package in 10.10?
[16:36] <pr0xy> sorry ikonia any suggestions about how to not be bored?
[16:36] <pr0xy> Is there an off-topic channel?
[16:36] <brunowowk> penguin42: thanks...gonna try it
[16:36] <jbroome> pr0xy: i'd suggest trolling an irc channel
[16:36] <ikonia> #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:36] <erUSUL> !ot > pr0xy
[16:36] <mvk> ghollo: ??
[16:37] <ghollo> ganeshran, what do you mean by recover? backup your personal data?
[16:37] <jon_> I am new to linux what can i do with linux
[16:37] <pr0xy> nice, ikonia.
[16:37] <jbroome> derf
[16:37] <ganeshran> ghollo: to recover my data and restore ubuntu to the previous version
[16:37] <Matthes_> penguin42: I now renamed var/liv/dpkg/status-old to status
[16:37] <AbhiJit> !manual | jon_
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> !manual | jon_
[16:37] <ikonia> jon_: it's just an OS like windows, check out https://help.ubuntu.com for an introduction to ubuntu
[16:37] <ghollo> mvk, err
[16:37] <ganeshran> my computer shut down while upgrade and now nothing is working
[16:38] <ghollo> mvk, no, it isnt
[16:38] <AbhiJit> jon_, see linux.com tldp.org omgubuntu.co.uk
[16:38] <kholo> Does anyone succeed to install the new Netbook Edition ?
[16:38] <Nimrodel> Good evening all, i'm having trouble updating my netbook could someone help?
[16:39] <padhu> ganeshran: are you made back up before that?
[16:39] <gyyg> hello
[16:39] <ganeshran> can liveusb be used as an installer too?
[16:39] <AbhiJit> ganeshran, yes
[16:39] <padhu> ganeshran: yes
[16:39] <ganeshran> AbhiJit: ok i used LinuxLiveUSB creator
[16:39] <allu2> ganeshran: you get to terminal?
[16:39] <kulight> any one managed to use ntfs-config? (it wont launch)
[16:39] <jon_> has anybody hack linux
[16:39] <ganeshran> allu2: nope
[16:39] <allu2> ganeshran: live cd?
[16:40] <ganeshran> allu2: it just stops in recovery mode
[16:40] <ikonia> jon_: exploits do appear, but dommon sense will stop you having any problems
[16:40] <OpenSourcedNick> trism: the line you told me to write in the .bashrc responds "-I not found", "terminal not found"...
[16:40] <ikonia> jon_: https://help.ubuntu.com for an offiical introduction into ubuntu
[16:40] <ganeshran> ganeshran: I have a live usb
[16:40] <ganeshran> allu2: i have a live usb
[16:40] <allu2> ganeshran: no idea then :S
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> kulight:  ive used it in the past from the terminal ' gksudi ntfs-config'  it worked.. then would crash when i exited it. :)
[16:40] <ghollo> mvk, it's a pci/agp card. and the restricted driver doesn't work in 10.10. I have no video signal when starting X, only console on tty1
[16:41] <Amrykid2> #XAMPP
[16:41] <LordDragon> hey all
[16:41] <ProNihilist> hi, just installed Maverick, panels and the chrome in Firefox don't seem to be getting styled by whatever the current gtk / metacity theme, just look all grey and ugly
[16:41] <ChogyDan> ProNihilist: check your theme
[16:41] <LordDragon> is there a way to install 10.10 over 10.04 without having to format and reinstall?
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> ProNihilist:  thats a known issue. i saw an artical on it at the ombubuntu web site just moments ago. under the 10 things to do with 10.10
[16:41] <AbhiJit> jon_, if you ask what you cant do with linux then its short answer - satisfatory gaming but if you ask what you can do on linux then its very large answer ....
[16:41] <mvk> ghollo: tried to uninstall nv packages, and try nvidia's driver?
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> ProNihilist:  they have some themes for ff/opera/chrome to match the os themes
[16:41] <ikonia> ghollo: swap to vesa while your debugging it
[16:41] <mvk> their binary
[16:41] <ikonia> ghollo: did you get a gui when you first installed
[16:41] <miles_redfield> shouldn't "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" take care of that?
[16:42] <ikonia> mvk: it's the same binary as that what ships with ubuntu
[16:42] <jon_> I would like to become a better hacker any real howto's
[16:42] <jongleur> LordDragon: use the update manager
[16:42] <mvk> ikonia: ok
[16:42] <ikonia> jon_: that's offtopic here and nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:42] <kulight> Dr_Willis,  os.mkdir(HAL_CONFIG_DIR) is the error
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> ProNihilist:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/ubuntu-10-10-ambiance-radiance-themes-for-chrome-firefox-opera/
[16:42] <ProNihilist> ChogyDan: tried changing theme, no effect, can't change icon sets
[16:42] <ghollo> ikonia, yes, the nouveau driver worked
[16:42] <ritztech>  hmmm is there a way when i do a tail -f auto enter 5 times every 10 seconds like
[16:42] <trism> OpenSourcedNick: would you mind posting your ~/.bashrc to pastebin?
[16:42] <ritztech> tail -f /var/log/logs | grep VLAN | 10 seconds press enter character 5 times
[16:42] <LordDragon> jongleur, ok ill try that
[16:42] <ritztech> Is taht a for loop ?
[16:42] <OpenSourcedNick> trism: it's ok I fixed it
[16:42] <ikonia> ghollo: did you then enable the nvidia driver from the hardware dirvers menu ?
[16:43] <gyyg> I am getting an error with synaptic package manager
[16:43] <OpenSourcedNick> trism: http://pastebin.com/i69dxRDe I used this one
[16:43] <ProNihilist> Dr_Willis: it's all applications, the title bar matches the theme but the rest of the application doesn't, let me put a screenshot on photobucket a sec
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> ritztech:  check out the 'watch' command..       watch  'tail -f /var/log/messages'
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> ProNihilist:  i dont see the issue here.. but i change my default theme to be Clearlooks.. :)
[16:44] <ghollo> mvk, damn, the nv-driver was installed
[16:44] <thelung> anyone been having problems dl'ing 10.10 from ubuntu site???
[16:44] <ghollo> ikonia, yes
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> thelung:  i suggest using the torrents
[16:44] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else experiencing windows not flashing in taskbar in pidgin when receiving a message?
[16:44] <LukeL> I didn't read that X.org 1.9 won't work with nvidia-96, is there a way to use an older X.org package in 10.10?
[16:44] <ritztech> wathc ?
[16:44] <gyyg> the error says "dpkg: failed in buffer_read(fd): copy info file '/var/lib/dpkg/available':Input/output error"
[16:44] <ikonia> ghollo: my advice is to disable the nvidia driver, and log a bug then to get it processed through the support chain
[16:44] <erUSUL> LukeL: nope; stay in lucid is LTS
[16:45] <ritztech> haha seems so simplistic haha hmm letme check the arguments.
[16:45] <gyyg> what do I need to do?
[16:45] <ikonia> ghollo: those drives are 3rd party closed source so there is nothing we can do to "change" them
[16:45] <ChogyDan> gyyg: try dpkg --clear-avail
[16:45] <ramxs> can I upgrade from 8.10 to 10.04   directly with dist upgrade ???
[16:45] <jon_> linux is made by hacker's for hackers .so i would i like to know how to view the source code on programs
[16:45] <gyyg> it also warns that installed debconf version is broken
[16:45] <Martin_vW> Hi! Am I the only one who finds the indicator applet hard to use? I always click on the volume icon to change the volume, but when I move the mouse cursor below to move the slider, I accidentally move it across some other icon in the indicator applet area. The volume slider than vanishes and instead the menu belonging to the other icon opens up. This is driving me nuts :(
[16:45] <ghollo> mvk, after removing the nv package I had no success
[16:45] <cupis> ramxs, both are LTS versions? should work but follow the wiki instructions
[16:45] <danyR> jon_: there are lots of way
[16:45] <ProNihilist> Dr_Willis: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/yoko_kono/ae6dc452.png
[16:46] <ghollo> ikonia, so there is nothing I can do now to get it working?
[16:46] <dt_> is it safe to upgrade 10.04->10.10 yet ? :P
[16:46] <ramxs> cupis: insttructions ?
[16:46] <ikonia> jon_: the document I've linked you to 3 times will serve as an intorduction
[16:46] <ikonia> ghollo: it's a closed source product,
[16:46] <LorD-AcE> hi, i tried to install my netgear wg311v3 wlan-card via ndiswrapper, but when i try to use modprobe ndiswrapper, i got an errer FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found, i did like in this discrioption https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3
[16:46] <cupis> ramxs, ah 8.10 is not LTS
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> ProNihilist:  you can customize your themes to mixx and match the theme parts..  that image looks exactly like my desktop.. how itz supposed to be..  I think. :)
[16:47] <cupis> ramxs, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:47] <edbian> LorD-AcE, Did you install the ndiswrapper package?
[16:47] <LorD-AcE> yes i did
[16:47] <edbian> cupis, No, it's not.  But we're on 10.10 now
[16:47] <dt_> hmm, so 10.10 is still in development...? I don't see an upgrade option via update manager on 10.04
[16:47] <cupis> ramxs, you might need to go from 8.10 to 9.4 then 9.4 to 9.10 etc
[16:47] <edbian> LorD-AcE, and it still says module not found?
[16:47] <ikonia> dt_: it's out and stable
[16:47] <LorD-AcE> yes
[16:48] <dt_> ikonia, how would I upgrade from 10.04 ?
[16:48] <ikonia> dt_: you don't see an upgrade because your using an LTS version trying to mvoe to an non-lts
[16:48] <dt_> apt-get upgrade and update manager do nothing
[16:48] <LorD-AcE> ndis-package is installed all the time
[16:48] <brunowowk> penguin42 I've mounted the root partition on /, chrooted to it and update-grub gives  me "cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)"
[16:48] <jkrzero_> hello
[16:48] <LorD-AcE> i tried it twice
[16:48] <LorD-AcE> it is installed
[16:48] <Flynsarmy> dt_ apt-get dist-upgrade maybe
[16:48] <ProNihilist> Dr_Willis: but it's ugly as sin and I've tried changing stuff through the System -> Prefence -> Appearance to no effect
[16:48] <edbian> dt_, go to software sources, change it from LTS to normal releases. Try update manager again
[16:48] <cupis> dt_, run update-manager and change the settings to normal
[16:48] <russlar> dt_: download the alt cd
[16:48] <ghollo> ikonia, the funny thing is that I have one of these dell computers, which were delivered with ubuntu. and now this is again a release with big bugs...
[16:48] <ramxs> cupis: oops 8.10 is not LTS and it offers upgrade to 9.04 via GUI .. well I feel like changing the sources.list and doing dist upgrade wiill it work ?
[16:48] <dt_> edbian, thanks
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> ProNihilist:  oh? i must have 200 themes in there.. no issues here.
[16:48] <tommo> dt_ maybe your sources are set to only tell you about LTS releases
[16:48] <cupis> ramxs, I wouldn't
[16:48] <subone> I still cannot delete the directory: subone@subonedt:/mnt/external$ rm -Rf Projects
[16:48] <subone> rm: cannot remove directory `Projects': Directory not empty
[16:48] <ikonia> ghollo I don't find that funny or relevant
[16:48] <cupis> take the long route if you want a supported upgrade path
[16:48] <steinex> anyone success adding Facebook to Gwibber on 10.10?
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> ProNihilist:  try the customuize button see if anything changes then
[16:49] <Flynsarmy> subone: lowercase R
[16:49] <ikonia> ghollo: as I've said, it's a closed source product made by NVIDIA, not ubuntu, those drivers are nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:49] <jon_> is it true that linux is safer than windows
[16:49] <ramxs> cupis: so whats the fastest way for 8.10 to become 10.04
[16:49] <ChogyDan> ramxs: if you are going to change your sources, you might as well backup /home, and install over top
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> jon_:  i find it much safer
[16:49] <LorD-AcE> ie read ndiswrapper is based on usbcore, can it be?
[16:49] <subone> Flynsarmy, they are the same switch
[16:49] <ramxs> ChogyDan: new installation :)
[16:49] <ikonia> jon_: it can be as insecure or as secure as you make it, again the guide I linked to walks you through this
[16:49] <rooks> !update
[16:49] <ChogyDan> ramxs: ya
[16:49] <simpleblue_> i have not had a virus yet with linux
[16:49] <cupis> ramxs, safest way is to use update-manager -c and go through the stages 8.10, 9.4, 9.10, 10.4
[16:49] <subone> Flynsarmy, subone@subonedt:/mnt/external$ rm -rf Projects
[16:49] <subone> rm: cannot remove directory `Projects': Directory not empty
[16:49]  * ramxs is looking at upgrade notes
[16:49] <ChogyDan> ramxs: it will save some download bandwidth too...
[16:49] <simpleblue_> with windows it was a common thing for me
[16:49] <jon_> send me the link again
[16:49] <Flynsarmy> subone: did you do an ls -a in the projects folder to see wahts in there?
[16:50] <ramxs> cupis: cmon I dont have B/w I am in India
[16:50] <thelung> would anybody here suggest 10.10 over 10.04?
[16:50] <cupis> ramxs, fastest way is to download the ISO and re-install from CD
[16:50] <ikonia> jon_: https://help.ubuntu.com
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> thelung:  if you need the newer features.. yes.. if you dont.. well.. thats for you to decide
[16:50] <jon_> tks
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> thelung:  many peopel only use LTS releases
[16:50] <ramxs> cupis: whats the use of a package mangament system ? :O
[16:50] <ghollo> ikonia, thanks for your help. are you a bot? .... no empathy... ;)
[16:50] <kholo> I create an USB disk with the latest Ubuntu for Netbook, with the USB disk creator from another Ubuntu (my desktop). When I boot from this USB key, I end on an initramfs shell. Does anyone know this problem ?
[16:50] <ikonia> ghollo: don't be stupid with me, it's clear I'm not a bot
[16:50] <ProNihilist> Dr_Willis: I logged out and in again and themes are being applied now o_0, thanks anyway
[16:50] <edbian> ramxs, The point is to keep all the software on your system safe and up to date.
[16:50] <thelung> thanks DrWillis
[16:51] <Flynsarmy> When're they fixing the damn rename bug in list view in nautilus. its highlighting file ext when ti shouldn't be. frustrating
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> ProNihilist:  Magic. :)
[16:51] <cupis> ramxs, then upgrade using the supported path 8.10->9.4->9.10->
[16:51] <SaRy> Alright , it's out .. but nothing appears after ' update-manager -d .. in update manager !
[16:51] <cupis> ramxs, upgrades outside of the path (i.e. 8.10->10.10) might work, but are not supported so if it breaks you get to keep both parts
[16:51] <edbian> SaRy, Go to software sources.  change it to normal releases instead of LTS.  Then try again
[16:51] <ritztech> hmmm watch seems to not work ?
[16:51] <dt_> upgrading is beginning
[16:51] <dt_> hooray :)
[16:51] <edbian> ops, can we get the bot to say that? ^^  It's probably the 4th time I've had to
[16:52] <subone> Flynsarmy, there is nothing in there afaik. I accidentally formatted this external drive to fat32, then i repaired it back to ntfs using testdisk. All the other directories were repaired as they were (almost a terabyte of data) except the Pictures and Projects directories. They both appear empty, yet I can't remove them or anything. Ideally I want back the files that were in these directories.
[16:52] <ikonia> edbian: say what ?
[16:52] <subone> Flynsarmy, subone@subonedt:/mnt/external$ ls -a Projects/
[16:52] <subone> ls: reading directory Projects/: Input/output error
[16:52] <ikonia> edbian: it's detailed in the !upgrade factoid
[16:52] <edbian> ikonia, Go into software sources and switch it from LTS only to normal releases before being able to update. (word it better or course)
[16:53] <Flynsarmy> subone: Well i'm out of ideas, sorry
[16:53] <brunowowk> grub broke after first maverick (fresh install) update. trying to recover it from livecd. I mount root partition to /mnt/, chroot to it, run update-grub and it gives me "cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)". Any help?
[16:53] <ramxs> cupis: can I downgrade from 8.10 to 8.04 ?/ so that I will become LTS and jump directly to 10.04  ;)
[16:53] <Putr> KompoZer SUX
[16:53] <trism> OpenSourcedNick: oh, I see my error, yes, sorry, it was a quoting problem when I sent it to pastebin
[16:53] <cupis> ramxs, downgrades are not support AFAIK
[16:53] <Maja83> Hello, I need help! ;) When I start my computer I get the message: "installation problem the standard configuration of GNOME energy management couldn't be found" and I cannot start GNOME and I can only go to the shell... what can I do?
[16:53] <diogorcorreia> hey
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> brunowowk:  check the !fixgrub factouid. You need to mount /dev/ to the chroot
[16:54] <ghollo> how do I restore the xorg.conf, after I called nvidea-xconfig several times?
[16:54] <edbian> ikonia, I can't find it.  It's at least 2 links deep
[16:54] <diogorcorreia> Which who i should talk to become a ubuntu tester?
[16:54] <ikonia> ghollo: you should be able to simpley delete it
[16:54] <ikonia> !upgrade
[16:55] <cupis> UpgradeNotes does not have information on 10.10 yet/
[16:55] <russlar> diogorcorreia: all you need to do is download pre-release versions
[16:55] <russlar> diogorcorreia: and post feedback to #ununtu-dev
[16:55] <pr0xy> zomg. 10.10 broke myhdd
[16:56] <sorsis> how do i update from 10.4 to 10.10?
[16:56] <russlar> diogorcorreia: that's #ubuntu-dev
[16:56] <diogorcorreia> russlar, thanks!
[16:56] <OpenSourcedNick> trism: http://pastebin.com/byD6djF3 sorry for the delay
[16:56] <ghollo> pr0xy, mine too. but it was a ssd...
[16:56] <ikonia> edbian: I'll see if I can get that documentation updated
[16:56] <gyyg> I am having a problem with dpkg
[16:56] <gyyg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510192/
[16:56] <Martin_vW> Am I the only one who finds the indicator applet hard to use? I always click on the volume icon to change the volume, but when I move the mouse cursor below to move the slider, I accidentally move it across some other icon in the indicator applet area. The volume slider than vanishes and instead the menu belonging to the other icon opens up. This is driving me nuts :(
[16:56] <gyyg> any ideas?
[16:56] <cupis> sorsis, update-manager, change Settings to Normal (not LTS) then run update-manager -c
[16:56] <BluesKaj> ghollo, http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/ubuntu-9-10/xorg-conf-file-create-on-ubuntu-9-10/ .this works for 10.04 , dunno about 10.10
[16:56] <pr0xy> mine's external how do I fix it?
[16:57] <Ryen> !10.10
[16:57] <rommy03> Hi. I'm getting an error on 10.10 rc that I think has to do with migrating to 10.10 release.
[16:57] <thelung> diogorcorreia, i've seen some threads in ubuntu forums asking for testers for various releases and developments, too.. i'd check in the forums
[16:57] <rommy03> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192
[16:57] <brunowowk> Dr_Willis : what is that !fixgrub? /dev is on the same partition as the root. By mounting  / ain't I mounting /dev also?
[16:57] <rommy03> I think this is going to be something easy to fix but i'm not sure how to
[16:58] <russlar> brunowowk: /dev is a volitile filesystem
[16:58] <ghollo> BluesKaj, thanks, I think it works
[16:58] <russlar> brunowowk: it's not like /usr or /etc
[16:58] <sorsis> cupis: ty.
[16:58] <Flynsarmy> rommy03: ahh, i had that issue earlier. http://my-it-dump.blogspot.com/2009/02/fixing-gpg-errors-nopubkey-in-apt-get.html
[16:58] <root_> hi
[16:58] <pr0xy> please help me, my drive isn't working and my PC is beeping.
[16:58] <Flynsarmy> rommy03: the 'third source' section is where you want to look
[16:58] <rommy03> Thanks. running it now
[16:59] <gyyg> can anyone help me with a problem with dpkg?
[16:59] <xfiler718> !ask
[16:59] <gyyg> its talking about an IO error?
[16:59] <ChogyDan> gyyg: did my command not work?
[17:00] <gyyg> ChogyDan: no, it did not
[17:00] <pr0xy> W
[17:00] <pr0xy> What do I need to do to fix my drive. 10.10 broke it.
[17:00] <Guest89977> yes im a guest im new
[17:00]  * ramxs is going from 8.10 to 10.04 .. whatever heappens  !
[17:01] <Guest89977> to this
[17:01] <ChogyDan> gyyg: pastebin the error again?
[17:01] <russlar> pr0xy: what makes you say that 10.10 broke it?
[17:01] <karma_police> question.. i am installing 10.10..  i have 140 gb space to work with.. i want to install a / and a separate /home folder.. what is a good size for the install / to be?
[17:01] <gyyg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510192/
[17:01] <russlar> pr0xy: it's probably a coincidence that it failed right after an upgrade/install
[17:01] <ritztech> tail -f /var/log/logs | grep VLAN | 10 seconds press enter character 5 times
[17:01] <russlar> karma_police: 20GB should be plenty
[17:01] <Guest89977> i have just started using ubuntu myself i like it so far
[17:02] <russlar> karma_police: you can probably get by with 10GB
[17:02] <ritztech> is there something better then watch (watch) wont work or is there a way to just insert an Enter Character cause i need to scrollback
[17:02] <psypher246> hey all. happy ubuntu day! i unfortunately am having trouble installing. The install partitioner does not detect my drives or partitions at all. anyone else having this issue. trying to install meerkat 32bit desktop
[17:02] <karma_police> 20 gb would cover any and all new progs and updates?
[17:02] <pr0xy> russlar, It was running fine on 10.04. and now It stopped working and my computer beeps and I smell ozone
[17:02] <ChogyDan> karma_police: 10g for /, the rest for /home
[17:02] <brunowowk> russlar: ok, managed to run update-grub, but it says it could'nt find list of partitions. wasn't it supposed to be on /etc/?
[17:02] <nick> Hello
[17:03] <ghollo> pr0xy, that doesn't sound like 10.10 broke it. is it an internal hdd?
[17:03] <rooks> umm... why update-manager -d tells me that 10.10 is still a release candidate?
[17:03] <karma_police> what is the biggest the install would get over time with updates and extras?
[17:03] <AshBee> are there any core differences between desktop & netbook 10.10 that would make it difficult to find help on forums, etc...?
[17:03] <russlar> brunowowk: follow this how-to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD
[17:03] <pr0xy> nope. wait, there's a car outside, scratch the ozone.
[17:03] <sniperjo> anyone here got any experience with packet routing ?
[17:03] <Guest89977> any lsu white guys here by chance
[17:03] <russlar> pr0xy: LOL!
[17:03] <brunowowk> russlar: thanks
[17:04] <Maja83> Does anyone know how I can fix the GNOME energy-manager?
[17:04] <russlar> brunowowk: and follow it exactly. I've used it to recover from a failed grub before
[17:04] <rooks> when full 10.10 will come out? mine update manager tells me that its only a release candidate
[17:04] <ChogyDan> gyyg: you have to use my name, otherwise I miss the message
[17:04] <Flynsarmy> Maja83: maybe gnome-power-manager package
[17:04] <cupis> rooks, it's out, try and update
[17:04] <pr0xy> ikr, but it doesn't work now, none the less.
[17:05] <shauno> rooks: about 7 hours ago.  your mirror may vary.
[17:05] <ChogyDan> gyyg: try sudo apt-get clean, and try again
[17:05] <cupis> sniperjo, what is up?
[17:05] <cousin_mario> bye
[17:05] <ghollo> pr0xy, what does show dmesg?
[17:05] <pr0xy> it's at the BIos and it says password correct.
[17:05] <dn4> seriously Maverick meercat
[17:06] <dn4> who in the !@#$!@ comes up with those names
[17:06] <sniperjo> cupis: ive got olsr running on a few machines, according to the oslr they can see each other but they dont seem to be forwarding packets
[17:06] <pr0xy> it mavericked my hard drive.
[17:06] <sebsebseb> dn4: heh
[17:06] <stnick> How do I identify my nick on this channel? I can't figure it out and it keeps blocking me from talking
[17:06] <sniperjo> cupis: or at least that is my guess
[17:06] <sebsebseb> dn4: as far as I know the Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth comes up with all the names for Ubuntu
[17:06] <russlar> dn4: i know. I wanted Marinated Moose
[17:06] <Caleb1134> lol
[17:06] <A_New_Server> Where are the fonts located in Ubuntu?
[17:06] <dn4> that sounds tastey
[17:06] <russlar> !me is suddenly hungry
[17:06] <lil_e> you can change your nick before you connect in Xchat stnick
[17:06] <rooks> i still hope for Orly Owl
[17:06] <Caleb1134> well get rich first
[17:06] <ahmad_> is the upgrade from 10.04 available now ??
[17:06] <cupis> sniperjo, cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[17:06] <phil_in_london> stnick  /msg NickServ identify password
[17:06] <dn4> rooks: hahaha
[17:07] <phil_in_london> stnick, but we are seeing you talk.
[17:07] <pr0xy> Orly owl would be awesome.
[17:07] <stnick> For the moment
[17:07] <Caleb1134> where is the offtopic channel again?
[17:07] <sebsebseb> !ot | Caleb1134
[17:07] <russlar> Caleb1134: #UBUNTU-OFFTOPIC
[17:07] <mobasher> i'm trying to install freebsd in virtualbox...has anyone does that ?? it gets stuck everytime while booting ?
[17:07] <sebsebseb> !caps | russlar
[17:07] <sniperjo> cupis: oh just so happens that im on 2xps and 1 osx at the moment.. lol
[17:07] <Caleb1134> i want just off topic, not ubuntu offtopic
[17:07] <AbhiJit> mobasher, #freebsd
[17:08] <sebsebseb> mobasher: #vbox
[17:08] <AbhiJit> :(
[17:08] <fcn> wow! ubuntu.com look so elegant! it's getting better and better.
[17:08] <mobasher> thanks guys
[17:08] <stodertoad> can anyone help me I can't upgrade to 10.10 from 10.04 the option isn't showing up in update manager
[17:08] <dn4> fcn: and the names got worse and worse
[17:08] <sam_sam> what is /usr/sbin/nmbd used for ? it was running on my ubuntu with root privileges and when i "info"ed it .. gave a garbage like reading a binary file
[17:08] <sebsebseb> stodertoad: ah right yeah
[17:08] <thelung> mobasher, prob your bsd..  have you use vbox to install any other os's??
[17:08] <stodertoad> yeah
[17:08] <sebsebseb> stodertoad: since 10.04 was a LTS it will only show LTS by default, can be changed though
[17:08] <lil_e> i have 3 user accounts in ubuntu  i have a second hdd with music on it, problem is i can only get one account at a time to be able to access it...i have to "unmount" then "mount" to see it
[17:08] <stnick> Hmm. Seems to be taking its time in blocking me this time. Anyway, I'm trying to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 7. I created the partitions for Ubuntu and installed it, but now neither will load. It just says"
[17:08] <cupis> stodertoad, go into the update-manager settings and set it to Normal instead of Long Term Support (LTS)
[17:08] <stnick> non-system disk or disk error replace and strike any key when ready
[17:08] <sebsebseb> stodertoad: also if you upgrade now, things will probably be slow, because of the amount of Ubuntu newbies and fan boys that are doing the upgrade
[17:09] <ph0x9> what is the default term for ubuntu
[17:09] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | stodertoad
[17:09] <stodertoad> oh interesting let me see if that change atleast gets me the option
[17:09] <lil_e> stnick: i had the same issue with my tri-boot....was a bootloader issue
[17:09] <cupis> stodertoad, after the change you may need to run update-manager -c
[17:09] <l3dx> I'm trying to install using PXE, but the installer fails when trying to copy the files...anyone know what the reason can be? I don't understand it since I've already booted from the same source
[17:10] <stnick> I thought it might be the bootloader, but how do I fix it?
[17:10] <sebsebseb> stodertoad: also why do you want 10.10?  for the desktop version it hasn't improved much over 10.04
[17:10] <sam_sam> !nmbd
[17:10]  * simpleblue_ makes startup disk for installing ubuntu
[17:10] <sniperjo> cupis: that doesn't exist on osx
[17:10] <l3dx> simpleblue_: floppy? :D
[17:10] <lil_e> i finally got fed up and reinstalled....using ubuntu first...then partitioning the drive and installing windows
[17:10] <stnick> Something else as well. Sometimes when I start up the laptop, it automatically boots from the USB stick
[17:10] <perlsyntax> Does the kde support sound baster out of the box?
[17:10] <stodertoad> oh I just want to check it out sebsebseb
[17:10] <perlsyntax> in ubuntu
[17:10] <simpleblue_> lol ldx, no a usb stick i'm making
[17:11] <lil_e> stnick, you can change that in the BIOPS or hitting the boot menu
[17:11] <stodertoad> and that fixed it man thanks for your insight sebsebseb
[17:11] <cupis> sniperjo, try and OSX support channel?
[17:11] <lil_e> *BIOS
[17:11] <pr0xy> no, it's the drive, smells like ozone.
[17:11] <l3dx> simpleblue_: only joking ;) I'm close to doing the same myself...can't manage to install from my PXE server :(
[17:11] <simpleblue_> ;)
[17:11] <Maja83> flynsarmy: but how can I repair the package?
[17:11] <boldfilter> Hey, Im trying to update to 10.10 but the update manager isnt showing install
[17:11] <rommy03> question, the command lsb_release -a - does this show rc if you're still using the rc version?
[17:11] <stnick> So do I need to make changes in the BIOS to get the boot loader to run?
[17:11] <sniperjo> cupis: any channel other than ubuntu seem to be fairly useless, but i shall give it a go !
[17:11] <uLinux> how do i uinstall guest additions from a virtual machine?
[17:12] <stnick> I'm completely new to this
[17:12] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510200/ <--- need help for this... before i only got the GPG error and now seems i got more 4 errors.... the fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ..... hash sum mismatch...  i need help for this pls thank you
[17:12] <uLinux> *uninstall
[17:12] <pr0xy> should I send an email to canonical or something.
[17:12] <sebsebseb> stnick: hi
[17:12] <froggyman> I'm having problems upgrading to 10.10 (from 10.04). When I open up the update manager, and click install 10.10, I get some errors "W:Failed to fetch http://linux.dropbox.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[17:12] <froggyman> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/anonbeat/guayadeque/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[17:12] <froggyman> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[17:12] <cupis> boldfilter, runn update-manager and change the settings to allow Normal releases, then run update-manager -c
[17:12] <stnick> sebsebseb: hi
[17:12] <Flynsarmy> Maja83: maybe uninstall and reinstall it I guess. I just googled 'ubuntu gnome energy manager package' and a bunch of stuff came up
[17:12] <thelung> ulinux are you using ose???
[17:12] <boldfilter> ok
[17:12] <twinkie_addict> i have pretty much run lts and i allways notice a trend for new releases of non lts reseases is there are always a bunch wierd issues at first  and by the time lts comes around things are more stable :)
[17:12] <uLinux> thelung: yes
[17:12] <sebsebseb> stnick: right want some help with something or?
[17:13] <boldfilter> sweet thanks
[17:13] <erUSUL> froggyman: you have to update your third party repos or disable them
[17:13] <fcn> I have 9.10 and I will make a clean install. should I?
[17:13] <xperia> hello to all. i am having big problems with installing/removing the package "proftpd". at the moment i cant remove it as it breaks everytime with the error message "debconf: DbDriver "config": could not open/var/cache/debconf/ config.dat". Reinstalling dont work also ! How can i fix this problem with only half installed packages ?
[17:13] <bthornton> I've downloaded/burned Ubuntu 10.10 to a DVD and would like to upgrade my 10.04 machine with it. Is this possible? I haven't been able to find instructions on upgrading from burned media (only network)
[17:13] <boldfilter> thanks cupis
[17:13] <allmo> lts is for boring people
[17:13] <froggyman> erUSUL, how do I do that?
[17:13] <lil_e> stnick:That i dont know...as far as i could tell the bootloader installs itself as a small partition in front of everything else on the drive, ( i think like 8mb or so) I tried to reinstall GRUB but that didnt work well
[17:13] <cupis> fcn, you can update to 10.4 from there
[17:13] <boldfilter> Cause downloading that livecd and burning it always sucks for me cupis
[17:13] <cupis> fcn, then from 10.4 to 10.10 if you want
[17:13] <thelung> you won't get it work to out on ose, you want to use pual
[17:14] <erUSUL> froggyman: check dropbox webpage maybe they updated the program maybe not and you have to wait.- check that ppa too. maybe it still does not have maverick packages.
[17:14] <fcn> cupis: I'm thinking of converting to netbook version. how about that?
[17:14] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510200/ <--- need help for this... before i only got the GPG error and now seems i got more 4 errors.... the fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ..... hash sum mismatch...  i need help for this pls thank you
[17:14] <xangua> bthornton: only with the alternate cd, not the live cd
[17:14] <erUSUL> froggyman: third party repositories are not supported here
[17:14] <cmihai> Hi. Where are the official md5 sums of alternate cd?
[17:14] <cupis> fcn, oo, don't know that one
[17:14] <thelung> ulinux, if you are having problems getting your hardware to work on ose, you will want to use pual instead
[17:14] <lil_e> stnick: you might be able to modify the partitions through GParted ( or whatever ) and make another partition bootable though
[17:14] <bthornton> xangua: I have burned the alternate CD. What is the procedure for upgrading?
[17:14] <cupis> fcn, not sure if/how to convert between desktop and netbook
[17:14] <stnick> Yeah, gparted was what I used
[17:14] <sresu> Which package can help me edit pdf files?
[17:14] <uLinux> thelung: it's just not working
[17:14] <clone`KillaloT> takes 6 hours to upgrade :DDD can't wait
[17:14] <erUSUL> !info pdfedit
[17:14] <Flynsarmy> noob-tux--: http://my-it-dump.blogspot.com/2009/02/fixing-gpg-errors-nopubkey-in-apt-get.html the 'third source' section
[17:15] <froggyman> erUSUL, alright. So I can't even just disable them so I can install maverick?
[17:15] <sebsebseb> clone`KillaloT: 6 hours to upgrade! uhmm shoudn't be like that, but  when loads are downloading it may be
[17:15] <uLinux> thelung: i want to remove the guest additiosn from the virtual machine i installed
[17:15] <sresu> Thanks
[17:15] <erUSUL> froggyman: yes you can disable them
[17:15] <sebsebseb> !slow | clone`KillaloT
[17:15] <stnick> It could be that I screwed up with creating the partitions. I have no idea what ext3 ext4 etc is
[17:15] <clone`KillaloT> sebsebseb It's on a Eee PC 901
[17:15] <erUSUL> froggyman: system>Admin>software sources
[17:15] <beilby> how do I get fingerprint reader working? IBM T43
[17:15] <froggyman> erUSUL, alright, thanks
[17:15] <sebsebseb> clone`KillaloT: ok so maybe that factoid doesn't apply then
[17:15] <cupis> fcn, apparently you just need to install the ubuntu-netbook package?
[17:15] <lil_e> i used ext 4 for the OS  did you create a swap partition?
[17:15] <bthornton> xangua: ah, I just have to pop in the CD and click "Upgrade Now". awesome :)
[17:15] <sebsebseb> clone`KillaloT: and maybe the repos aren't slow yet
[17:15] <clone`KillaloT> I believe i've downloaded all the packages, just upgrading now
[17:15] <Xeno__> Hello
[17:15] <BluesKaj> boldfilter, you using an older pc? If so try the alternate install cd , it recognizes older HW much better than the live-cd , it's text based and takes somewhat longer to install , but one gets more options as well
[17:15] <fcn> cupis: nay, I'll make a clean install because I installed some restricted drivers from manufacturers website, so I'll make a clean install and let ubuntu handle everything
[17:15] <stnick> Yeah I created a swap partition
[17:16] <stnick> God damn it, I can't get into this channel through mIRC. Text is so hard to read in the web client
[17:16] <boldfilter> Blueskaj: idk I have a quad core. My cd burning just hates me.
[17:16] <Pilif12p> How can i make my desktop look like http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu1010font-large_002.jpg ? (Is it a theme or something?_
[17:16] <lil_e> Id say it was the bootloader for sure then... try Xchat  what distro u using right now?
[17:16] <xangua> stnick: and why not use a native irc client¿
[17:16] <BluesKaj> boldfilter, what are you running now ?
[17:16] <boldfilter> 10.04
[17:17] <stnick> Isn't mIRC an IRC client?
[17:17] <stnick> That's what I've always used
[17:17] <lil_e> yes
[17:17] <thelung> i would download the puel version from the virtualbox website then give it a shot, are you having problems with hardware or something???
[17:17] <twinkie_addict> stnick try irssi
[17:17] <xangua> Pilif12p: that looks like avant dock
[17:17] <twinkie_addict> youl have to install it
[17:17] <jay_> If I want to back up data before updating is the home folder adequate for all my preferences, browser settings/cookies, etc.?
[17:17] <vj> helo everyone, HOw do I change the windows control buttons to right?
[17:17] <vj> from left to right
[17:17] <erUSUL> jay_: yes
[17:17] <BluesKaj> boldfilter, upgrade thru the terminal then...sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:17] <jay_> thanks
[17:17] <erUSUL> !controls > vj
[17:17] <shauno> trying to move mirc users to irssi sounds like a fantastic way to alienate people and reinforce 1990s stereotypes
[17:18] <xangua>  stnick ooh is a cli program, thought it was a windows thru wine :S
[17:18] <Pilif12p> xangua: i've seen screenshots like that elsewhere, too
[17:18] <stnick> Right, I'll install irssi
[17:18] <stnick> I found a .exe
[17:18] <cupis> vj, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-right-in-ubuntu-10.04/
[17:18] <boldfilter> Ive heard it may be something to do with the firmware for the cd burner on other operating systems. But my computer is gateway so I have to have a manufacter firmware update wierd.
[17:18] <vj> thnx
[17:18] <vj> everyone
[17:18] <beilby> gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout ":minimize,maximize,close"
[17:18] <Black_Phantom> Hello all, can I upgrade my 10.10 beta to stable using a usb stick or a cd without having to fresh install ?
[17:19] <twinkie_addict> irssi is a great cli irc lient if its solid why not use it its a good app
[17:19] <boldfilter> BlueKaj: I got it, Set the update manager to "Normal releases"
[17:19] <erUSUL> !final | Black_Phantom
[17:19] <brunowowk> cannot boot ubuntu or windows after first Maverick (fresh install
[17:19] <cupis> Black_Phantom, just do an update online
[17:19] <xangua> Black_Phantom: or you can just run update
[17:19] <stnick> Can't install irssi, it's linux only.
[17:19] <ZeusCool> hi, i am haveing trouble installing ubuntu 10.04. What i want: i want to keep windows and partitions as it is and install Ubuntu on a 10G partition. The problem: i can't figure out how to create and what partitions to create in order to install ubuntu on that 10G space, please help
[17:19] <erUSUL> ikonia: too soon to change that factoid ....
[17:19] <BluesKaj> boldfilter, use the terminal, the update manager can be clunky
[17:19] <ikonia> erUSUL: sorry which one
[17:19] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: ok
[17:19] <sam_sam> what is /usr/sbin/nmbd used for ? it was running on my ubuntu with root privileges and when i "info"ed it .. gave a garbage like reading a binary file
[17:19] <erUSUL> ikonia: !final
[17:20] <brunowowk> cannot boot ubuntu or windows after first Maverick (fresh install) update. tried grub recover procedure with livecd and got nothing. pon reboot i get to grub minimal bash. Any help?
[17:20] <boldfilter> Its already goin, says 31 minutes for doanload. BlueKaj
[17:20] <ikonia> erUSUL: give me a minute will you
[17:20] <edbian> sam_sam, It is a binary file.
[17:20] <erUSUL> ikonia: should say maverick still; imho
[17:20] <lil_e> stnick: there isnt XChat already installed? apps>internet>XChat IRC
[17:20] <psypher246> hi all, cannot install meerkat at all, no drives detected yet gparted see it all fine
[17:20] <stnick> lil_e: I'm on Windows 7 at the moment, not Ubuntu
[17:20] <Black_Phantom> cupis, xangua, erUSUL  the problem is am not in a very advanced country, I have a bandwith internet limit that I should follow, the update is more than 500 mb which is a problem to me.
[17:20] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: 1. 10.10 is now out so you might want that instead.  2.  10GB is ok  for  / when theres a seperate /home, but  not so good when  /home is inside /,  and people start putting a lot of big files on for example
[17:20] <stnick> It's my other machine I'm trying to install Ubuntu on
[17:20] <sam_sam> edbian:it's process..is it normal ?
[17:20] <lil_e> nm then lol
[17:20] <edbian> sam_sam, NetBIOS name server to provide NetBIOS over Ip naming services to clients
[17:20] <edbian> sam_sam, It's normal.
[17:20] <stnick> I'm just trying to get into this channel on mIRC because the text is so bloody hard to read in the web client
[17:20] <edbian> sam_sam, Part of samba
[17:20] <BluesKaj> boldfilter, ok thst sounds about right for a Day-one release
[17:20] <erUSUL> Black_Phantom: well; doing a fressh install needs the iso too
[17:21] <edbian> stnick, ur here
[17:21] <boldfilter> Ive heard issues of freezing, is that anything to do with the update manager. BluesKaj
[17:21] <kevin__> I'm trying to log in to my Ubuntu One account, but when I try to do it it just doesn't connect. Help?
[17:21] <sam_sam> edbian: ok .. i was little worried ty
[17:21] <erUSUL> Black_Phantom: you can upgrade from beta to final with the alternate cd if you get it by other means
[17:21] <stnick> Anyway, I got gparted loaded up on my other machine, the machine that I'm having the problem on
[17:21] <edbian> sam_sam, No problem.  things in /sbin or binaries only root can run.
[17:21] <erUSUL> Black_Phantom: the cd will be recogniced as an apt source
[17:21] <edbian> sam_sam, things in /usr were installed by the package manager.  so /usr/sbin  (well it's obvious I think)
[17:21] <Black_Phantom> I see
[17:21] <BluesKaj> boldfilter, perhaps , not sure, that's why I usually stick to the terminal
[17:21] <Black_Phantom> alright thanks
[17:21] <sebsebseb> kevin__: try #ubuntuone
[17:21] <xangua> Black_Phantom: i don't see a diference, the cd is 700mb :S
[17:22] <stnick> What I did was create an extended partition, then three partitions in that one. two ext4 partitions and a linux-swap partition
[17:22] <kevin__> sebsebseb, I did. Nobody responds lol.
[17:22] <boldfilter> BluesKaj: I'll learn more terminal eventually.
[17:22] <Black_Phantom> xangua, but I still want to store the cd for later use
[17:22] <cmihai> Anyone try 10.10 on Aspire 5920g? I'm using the alternate-cd image and it boots to the bootloader, but anything except memtest86+ just freezes at a blank screen after. Machine worked fine with 10.4, cd / usb install media is OK, tried on other machine.
[17:22] <Black_Phantom> so I dont have to download 700 + 500
[17:22] <cmihai> Machine is also fine, as it boots 10.4.
[17:22] <noob-tux--> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/510204
[17:22] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> there won't be big files, i will only use it to navigate on web and test linux vs windows, since i am new at linux i am sure i will have big headaches till i will get it right
[17:22] <stnick> Is there a way for me to tell if the boot loader was even installed?
[17:23] <sam_sam> well whats the logic in package managers for putting programs in /bin, /sbin ,/usr/bin etc ?
[17:23] <stnick> I've got one unallocated 1MB partition right at the top, in front of the Windows 7 partitions
[17:23] <erUSUL> !fhs | sam_sam
[17:23] <LunaVorax> Hi everyone !
[17:23] <lil_e> Stnick: edit your Linux partition to bootable and see if it cranks up....im fairly new to linux partition setup..i broke my whole hdd into 3 parts 2 45gig and 1 2.5gig
[17:23] <stnick> Dunno if that was there before I tried installing Ubuntu
[17:23] <xangua> Black_Phantom: you could also stick with lucid wich has 3 years support
[17:23] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: ok so using the guided install option, install them side by side, will probably do the trick
[17:23] <Xeno__> Does someone have a good DVD burner for windows XP?
[17:23] <stnick> The extended partition?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> boldfilter, to the terminal is the cleanest way to install and remove , unless there are broken packages then synaptic is your friend.
[17:23] <lil_e> stnick: thats the bootlaoder
[17:23] <stnick> Okay
[17:23] <sam_sam>  erUSUL:let me look at it , ty
[17:23] <stnick> How come it doesn't load?
[17:23] <xangua> !windows > Xeno__
[17:23] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510204
[17:23] <Black_Phantom> nah I prefer 10.10
[17:24] <Black_Phantom> thanks anyways
[17:24] <cmihai> Xeno__: http://www.imgburn.com/
[17:24] <beilby> Xeno__: IMGBurn
[17:24] <Xeno__> thank you ^^
[17:24] <kim0> can someone please tell me why some pkgs are being "kept-back" during dist-upgrade ?
[17:24] <stnick> lil_e: To edit the linux partition to bootable do I right click the extended partition, click "flags" and check "boot"?
[17:24] <boldfilter> 26 minutes
[17:24] <Chaos2358> can anyone tell me if i have to do a clean install of 10.10 or if i can just update my 10.04
[17:24] <boldfilter> How bout them Rays.
[17:24] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: also I would like to point out, that Ubuntu is not the only LInux distro distribution, there are many others as well,  http://www.distrowatch.com  however sure Ubuntu is ok to start with
[17:24] <sharplinux> kim0: because they break other pkgs on your system
[17:25] <xangua> Chaos2358: update, it's better if you have your home mounted in another partition
[17:25] <lil_e> stnick: not sure i know there is a way to edit the start up options for GRUB though... yes that will make it bootable, not sure if the Loader will interfere or not
[17:25] <kim0> sharplinux: how can I know exactly the reason for the conflicet ?
[17:25] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool:  so you got 10GB unallocted space at the moment?  no partition there?
[17:25] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> i've tried, also searched web for hours, i can't find the right answer ... all i need to know is like do this partitions of this sizes ... (for example on web i found /root and in ubuntu 10.04 i don't have /root as selection, i have /boot)
[17:25] <Chaos2358> xangua can you elaborate about home mounting cause i dont know what youre talking about
[17:25] <LunaVorax> I've jsut updated from 10.04 to 10.10 on my macbook pro. But now I can't right click on my trackpad with two fingers and I can't find the Trackpad configuration panel anymore
[17:25] <stnick> lil_e: set it to bootable. Gonna see if it boots up now
[17:25] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> there is 10g of partition ntsf, but i will converti it to ex4
[17:26] <lil_e> stnick: have you tried running recover ( or whatever) from your install CD?
[17:26] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: is the ntfs empty at the moment?
[17:26] <kgreene> After upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10, my multitouch has changed what two and three fingers do. How would I change this?
[17:26] <ikonia> erUSUL: want to join us in #ubuntu-ops and explain the factoid request, I've totally lost track
[17:26] <stnick> HP never provided me with an recovery CD
[17:26] <sharplinux> kim0: if you really need to know, there are several ways of finding out the packages on which a given package depends, including browsing packages.ubuntu.com
[17:26] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> not empty but i don't need that data anyway
[17:26] <kim0> sharplinux: not that .. I want to know the "conflict" reason
[17:26] <stnick> lil_e: That seems to have made a difference. I now get "error: file not found"
[17:26] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510204
[17:26] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: ok are you on the Live CD?
[17:26] <sharplinux> kim0: but I generally trust APT to know what its doing
[17:26] <sniperjo> how do i install something from source ?
[17:26] <Noiano> hi everyone
[17:27] <stnick> lil_e: then underneath it "grub rescue>" and a blinking cursor
[17:27] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> i have the cd in my laptop right now (burned cd)
[17:27] <sharplinux> kim0: there's not an automatic way to know the conflict... you'd have to chase down each dependency
[17:27] <Bensinger> is anyone able to install 10.10 netbook in Virtualbox? desktop works fine. i cannot install the netbook in VB.
[17:27] <kim0> ew
[17:27] <lil_e> stnick: i meant the linux distro you used to install
[17:27] <kim0> sharplinux: well thnx
[17:27] <Craig`> hey guys, i'm using ubu 10.04 on my desktop and windows xp on my laptop, i'm wanting to transfer some files from laptop to pc, not entirely sure how to do this, i've got ethernet connected to the two machines (from laptop to pc), but can't seem to find a network connection, when i had two windows machines a network appeared, help please? :)
[17:27] <sharplinux> kim0: sure
[17:27] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> and i am at the point where i must customize the partitions
[17:27] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: well I am sort of an expert at partitioning for Ubuntu,  and your set up is easy to do
[17:27] <stnick> lil_e: haven't tried that. Hold on a second
[17:28] <_CommandeR_> Any info if some disaster may happen when updating from 10.04 to 10.10 ?
[17:28] <lil_e> stnick: also try making that 1mb partion "not bootable   or " do not usse partition"\
[17:28] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: ok screenshot that
[17:28] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool:  and give me the link
[17:28] <phre> hey guys
[17:28] <AbhiJit> hi phre
[17:28] <toxictux> Craig`, you want your linux to be a fileserver?
[17:28] <stnick> lil_e: is there a private chat function in the web client?
[17:28] <sebsebseb> _CommandeR_: it will probably go fine, but at the moment, maybe not the best time to, since the amount of other people doing it
[17:28] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> i can't screenshot, i am typeing from the desktop and installing ubuntu on laptop :)
[17:28] <phre> can i have the command for upgrading 10.04 in 10.10 ?
[17:28] <vj> how to disable mounted drive to show in desktop?
[17:28] <stanley_robertso> folks .. what is the link/channel where we can find .. the mentor for a given mentee
[17:29] <Craig`> toxictux, no i'm just wanting some files off my laptop to be on my pc
[17:29] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: the lap top doesn't have an Internet connection?   ok well say what it says for the partitions at the moment
[17:29] <A_New_Server> I just set up a shared file in Vbox, where would it show up on Ubuntu?
[17:29] <Noiano> I downloaded ubuntu 10.10 from torrent and I try to calculate the sha256 on the iso...it doesn't match the hash value I find on cdimage.ubuntu.com....any ideas?
[17:29] <AbhiJit> phre, you can do it from update manager
[17:29] <AbhiJit> phre, sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:29] <vj> AbhiJit: how to disable mounted drive to show in desktop?
[17:29] <cupis> phre, run update-manager and change the settings to allow Normal releases (not just LTS), then run update-manager -c
[17:29] <phre> thanks AbhiJit
[17:29] <toxictux> Craig`, try winscp if you just want to copy some files. if you want a fileserver digg into samba
[17:29] <stnick> lil_e: I'm back in Ubuntu. How do I run the "recover" thing?
[17:29] <AbhiJit> vj, ???
[17:29] <_CommandeR_> i see
[17:30] <AbhiJit> phre, np
[17:30] <Craig`> thanks toxictux
[17:30] <karma_police> i'm having problems with install.. i know its a partionioning error on my part.. i am dual booting with windows 7. does the / need to be primary or logical?
[17:30] <Belial`> if i was using the beta then kept updating through the final release, i should be fine, right?
[17:30] <cupis> Belial`, yes
[17:30] <Belial`> ok
[17:30] <vj> AbhiJit:  I want to disable the mounted harddrive being displayed in desktop
[17:30] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510204
[17:30] <erUSUL> karma_police: it does not matter
[17:30] <Craig`> toxictux, so i'd install that on the windows machine?
[17:30] <Chaos2358> can some one tell me what "having my home mounted in a partition" means and maybe how
[17:30] <sresu> erUSUL: pdfedit works slowly. Could you suggest any other application or package?
[17:30] <AbhiJit> vj, i dunno
[17:30] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> /dev/sda first, then as childs: 1. /dev/sda1 (ntsf), 2. /dev/sda2 (ntsf), 3. /dev/sda3 (ntsf), 4. /dev/sda4 (ntsf) ... the one for linux/ubuntu i want to use /dev/sda4 (ntsf)
[17:31] <karma_police> well, i tried logical and upon reboot i get grubrescue prompt
[17:31] <toxictux> Craig`, openssh-server on linux and winscp on windows box
[17:31] <ZeusCool> children* sorry for childs
[17:31] <tonysan> I want to execute a command after 3600 seconds later, how do I execute it now?
[17:31] <vj> anybody knows this answer?? I want to disable the mounted harddrive being displayed in desktop
[17:31] <Pilif12p> ne more thing
[17:31] <Pilif12p> one*
[17:31] <Pilif12p> I can't seem to find the music store
[17:31] <toxictux> Craig`, and if you want network neigbourhood and stuff use samba
[17:32] <SuperLag> How do you move the panel with the divider on it? it's the one the networking panel on it. I know *how* to move panels... but I can't find the right spot to click on that one, and it's driving me CRAZY
[17:32] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: I meant like spaces and such as well, but nevermind.  all you got to do is delete your NTFS probably, and then make the Ext4  primary  partition with the / mount point in it, I expect,  and maybe make some swap space, hmm
[17:32] <linuxR> hello everyone, I try to create a ubuntu 10.04 live cd with persistent storage using the "startup disk creator", but I cannot boot from it, getting the error " can not mount /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs"....ISO image is okay, booting from this image also works when not created using "startup disk creator"...can someone help?
[17:32] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: how much RAM you got?
[17:32] <_CommandeR_> well ubuntu servers work nice, 3.7mb/s downloading the packages (Sweden)
[17:32] <Chaos2358> pok from what i'm seeing ubuntu 10.10 isn't quiet bug free yet am i right?
[17:32] <ionut> does anyone knows where i can find a tutorial that teach me how to install ubuntu from a usb flash drive ?
[17:32] <erUSUL> sresu: really dunno
[17:32] <erUSUL> !usb
[17:32] <sresu> erUSUL: No probs. Thanks
[17:32] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> i got 4g of ram and /dev/sda4 (ntsf) has total size 11312 MB
[17:33] <tonysan> I want to execute a command that waits for X seconds, then run the real command...
[17:33] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: ok and the computer isn't going to be hibernated?
[17:33] <erUSUL> tonysan: sleep X && command
[17:33] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> i never use hibernate
[17:33] <AbhiJit> !usb > ionut
[17:33] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: ok this should be easy to do
[17:33] <Craig`> toxictux, winscp is asking for host name etc, i haven't worked with ssh before, mind helping?
[17:33] <tonysan> erUSUL: will the system hang during that?
[17:33] <Pilif12p> !musicstore
[17:33] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: you don't need any swap space, so :)
[17:33] <erUSUL> tonysan: no; only the shell waits
[17:33] <sebsebseb> !swap > ZeusCool
[17:34] <iBeef> Has Ubuntu 10.10 been released ?
[17:34] <wingless> is there any way to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 using the installation CD?
[17:34] <sebsebseb> iBeef: yes
[17:34] <tonysan> erUSUL: that's good! thanks
[17:34] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510219
[17:34] <cupis> iBeef, yes
[17:34] <iBeef> :D
[17:34] <sebsebseb> wingless: no
[17:34] <iBeef> thanks
[17:34] <sebsebseb> wingless: only alternate
[17:34] <erUSUL> wingless: no; you need the alternate cd for that
[17:34] <iBeef> wingless, you can sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:34] <wingless> ah, okay
[17:34] <wingless> thanks
[17:34] <toxictux> Craig`, your linux box should have an ip you can enter it for hostname
[17:34] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: ok so
[17:34] <ZeusCool> ubottu >> thanks, but i have enought memory
[17:34] <andehen> why doesn't "sudo do-release upgrade" work?
[17:34] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: delete the NTFS partition that you want to get rid of
[17:34] <Craig`> toxictux, how can i get this ip?
[17:35] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: then make the new partition for Ubuntu in the space
[17:35] <andehen> why doesn't "sudo do-release upgrade" work? says "no new release"
[17:35] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> only one partition ?
[17:35] <Sulumar> Happy release everyone
[17:35] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: ubottu is a female computer program bot
[17:35] <toxictux> Craig`, type ifconfig on console
[17:35] <sebsebseb> !gender | ZeusCool
[17:35] <BluesKaj> iBeef, the command is : sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:35] <Sulumar> who has 10.10 allready installed
[17:35] <A_New_Server> If I setup a shared folder in Vbox, where would the shared folder be in Ubuntu?
[17:35] <Craig`> eth0, l0, or wlan0
[17:35] <sebsebseb> Sulumar: me or well pretty much
[17:35] <mipo> I've already installed 10.10
[17:35] <iBeef> oh...
[17:36] <toxictux> Sulumar, 1000 people saying yes
[17:36] <Craig`> toxictux, eth0, l0, or wlan0
[17:36] <BluesKaj> Sulumar, what do want to know ?
[17:36] <erkan^> I want same 10.04 ubuntu netbook on 10.10 ubuntu netbook--> http://www.netupd8.com/w8img/24xqot4.jpg
[17:36] <erkan^> how ?
[17:36] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> i have to choose from /, /boot, /home, /tmp, /usr. /var, /srv, /opt, /usr/local
[17:36] <toxictux> Craig`, eth0 is wired
[17:36] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: you want /
[17:36] <Craig`> eth0 is the windows pc
[17:36] <Glowball> Is it me or are there options in ccsm which are gone?
[17:36] <iBeef> it says no new release found.
[17:36] <hservice> hello~~~
[17:36] <hudo> hello, how can I "delete" shared folder
[17:36] <jay_> getting this error when trying to upgrade, then the update manager quits http://pastebin.com/imiZ0Fdb
[17:37] <toxictux> Craig`, no eth0 is a name for your network interface card
[17:37] <ganja> Ubuntu 10.10 is here :)
[17:37] <cupis> erkan^, I think that is gone now :(
[17:37] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: / is like C in Windows
[17:37] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> shall i use all 11315 MG for this partition ?
[17:37] <Craig`> toxictux, oh just it only appearedd when i plugged ethernet in
[17:37] <erkan^> ow
[17:37] <ChogyDan> jay_: try torrenting the alt cd, upgrade with that
[17:37] <hservice> Ubuntu 10.10 now, live, CANT INSTALL!!!
[17:37] <Stormx2> jay_: The mirrors are overloaded, which could be causing it. Otherwise try switching mirror
[17:37] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: yes you want it to use all of the 10GB
[17:37] <linuxR> hello everyone, I try to create a ubuntu 10.04 live cd with persistent storage using the "startup disk creator", but I cannot boot from it, getting the error " can not mount /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs"....ISO image is okay, booting from this image also works when not created using "startup disk creator"...can someone help?
[17:37] <ionut> hi. i have more than one partition. usually i keep my multimedial files (such as audio or video) in a diffrent partition (not in the partition where ubuntu is installed). and when i want to listen music in rythmbox for example, if the partition is not mounted the audio files will not be present (not imported because doesn't find the partition). how can i resolve the issue ?
[17:37] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: thats your Ubuntu space
[17:37] <Overshee> I'm getting an error when I try to install 10.10, it say bootloader was not possible to install
[17:37] <erkan^> i see ubuntu netbook 10.04 is very better than ubuntu netbook 10.10 , cupis
[17:37] <erkan^> :S
[17:37] <jay_> ok thanks
[17:37] <toxictux> Craig`, is it like 192.x.x.x or 10.x.x.x?
[17:37] <Craig`> toxictux, i typed `ifconfig' and got http://pastebin.ws/fa334z
[17:37] <brunowowk> cannot boot ubuntu or windows after first Maverick (fresh install) update. tried grub recover procedure with livecd and got nothing. Upon reboot i get to grub minimal bash. Any help?
[17:38] <sebsebseb> Overshee: maybe you didn't install into the correct place or something
[17:38] <cupis> erkan^, you are not alone
[17:38] <Craig`> 192.168.0.5 then?
[17:38] <sebsebseb> Overshee: altough it would normally by default
[17:38] <hservice> Ubuntu 10.10 is NOT INSTALLABLE on my lap .... its the First linux dist failing to install on my lap
[17:38] <cupis> we'll have to see how the new Unity interface develops
[17:38] <Stormx2> ionut, mount the partition?
[17:38] <Ryen> linuxR: What type of disk did you write to?
[17:38] <Overshee> sebsebseb, it was all default
[17:38] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> thanks, it worked !!
[17:38] <A_New_Server> If I setup a shared folder in Vbox, where would the shared folder be in Ubuntu?
[17:38] <linuxR> ryen, a 4gb usb stick
[17:38] <sebsebseb> hservice: oh?
[17:38] <toxictux> Craig`, you didnt configure your wired network
[17:38] <linuxR> Ryen I mean :)
[17:38] <BluesKaj> ionut, rename the partition /home as long as it's an ext fs
[17:38] <hservice> seb, YES, NOT POSSIBLE
[17:38] <Craig`> toxictux, how do i do that?
[17:38] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> at least i am at the next step :)
[17:38] <Stormx2> A_New_Server: Wherever you assigned it to be.
[17:38] <Ryen> linuxR: What computer are you trying to boot with it?
[17:39] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510219
[17:39] <sebsebseb> erkan^: there is a way to get the old UNR look in 10.10, but I am not  sure how
[17:39] <A_New_Server> Stormx2, I didn't assign it to be anywhere in ubuntu, there's no place to assign it
[17:39] <hservice> got a Error: fsync...something...
[17:39] <hservice> trying again
[17:39] <ionut> BluesKaj: that is not a good idea. a good idea would be to automount the partition when the system starts. how can i do that :D ?
[17:39] <linuxR> Ryen, a netbook...I tried with another computer as well, didnt work either
[17:39] <Stormx2> A_New_Server: Virtual Box > Machine > Settings > Shared Folders. What is under "Path"?
[17:39] <erkan^> ok
[17:39] <belak> When you install ubuntu, it is possible to install kubuntu and xubuntu on the same drive using the same /boot partition?
[17:39] <sam_sam> is there a way(command) to see which ports are being used by which processes and how to  block them?(other than firewalls)
[17:39] <linuxR> Ryen, can boot from another 10.04 usb stick though
[17:40] <hservice> Cant see my HD in Gparted, HD part-table not detected during installation
[17:40] <sebsebseb> belak: of course, also why do you have a seperate /boot partition?
[17:40] <A_New_Server> Stormx2, there is no "Settings" in Machine
[17:40] <belak> sebsebseb: because I'm using arch as well
[17:40] <BluesKaj> ionut, if you expect automount then put an entry in fstab
[17:40] <avo> Finally... I can talk about maverick in here! :) I've got a desktop running lucid that I use as an apache, ssh, ftp, and a few other servers. Will upgrading them ruin those?
[17:40] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj: and Arch requeres a seperate /boot partition?
[17:40] <brunowowk> I cannot boot ubuntu or windows 7 x64 after first Maverick (x64 fresh install) update. tried grub recover procedure with livecd and got nothing. Upon reboot i get to grub minimal bash. Any help?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> !fstab | ionut
[17:40] <sebsebseb> belak: and Arch requires a seperate /boot partition?
[17:40] <Ryen> linuxR: So the co,puter cant boot from just this one flash drive?
[17:40] <vj> BluesKaj: how to unview mounted drives in the desktop?
[17:40] <russjr08> Hey guys, Ubuntu One seems to be not working in Ubuntu 10.10
[17:41] <Ryen> *computer
[17:41] <industrial> I am looking to replace gnome in Ubuntu with a tiling window manager, thereby abandoning gnome-session. I don't know which programs and services I need to run to gain some needed functionality like audio and networking and stuff to get that in my startx setup. Can anyone help with this?
[17:41] <sam_sam> avo:no
[17:41] <Overshee> where is the bootloader supposed to go?
[17:41] <toxictux> Craig`, did you connect the two boxes directly or over your router?
[17:41] <belak> sebsebseb: no, helps grub load better... plus for security reasons...
[17:41] <sebsebseb> belak: by the way Kubuntu and Xubuntu you can install into your Ubuntu install
[17:41] <Doyle> Is there a better way to mount .cue files other than with bootstrap?
[17:41] <avo> sam_sam, Okay, so what is the worst-case scenario of my upgrading? Is borking my system a possibility?
[17:41] <Matthes_> is there a way to reset  /var/lib/dpkg/status ?
[17:41] <russjr08> Does anyone else have a problem with Ubuntu One?
[17:41] <belak> sebsebseb: just switch from the display manager?
[17:41] <linuxR> Ryen, I think the problem is that the "startup disk creator" of 10.04 creates invalid media when using the "persitent files" feature
[17:41] <sebsebseb> belak: yep
[17:41] <linuxR> but I don't know how to fix this
[17:41] <sebsebseb> belak: also Lubuntu is rather nice
[17:41] <belak> sebsebseb: what display manager does xubuntu use?
[17:41] <kevin__> russjr08, me too. im in #ubuntuone trying to get help
[17:41] <Stormx2> A_New_Server, http://i56.tinypic.com/140x53k.jpg
[17:41] <LCMDMa> @Ryen 10.10 fixed the start up creator
[17:41] <Ryen> linuxR: Give me a second, let me see if I can find something.
[17:42] <belak> sebsebseb: lubuntu doesn't have a 10.10 release yet, does it?
[17:42] <jconlon> I want to set up an ubuntu server at the house and run ssh, minidlna, subsonic, etc.  Where should I put media files, in a home directory or somewhere else?
[17:42] <gyyg> I just ran rkhunter. Is this normal for ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu.com/510223/
[17:42] <sam_sam> avo:well i would prefer to wait for a couple of weeks to see its stable or not :-$
[17:42] <sebsebseb> belak: it uses GDM   I think, but LXDM  is rather nice the one Lubuntu uses, so I would suggest using that
[17:42] <hservice> im having problem even installing it.... I have installed solaris 10, freebsd.., mint9, mint8... on this lap with no problem, but now...
[17:42] <russjr08> kevin__: Ill join you
[17:42] <TomatoIN> Hello! a blue line appeared on my screen after I updated. Any ideas of what is wrong? It appears everywhere now.. even in my boot screen
[17:42] <linuxR> Ryen, thanks, I also did some googling, the error is quite unspecific unfortunately :(
[17:42] <sebsebseb> belak: Lubuntu isn't offical yet, however it is in the repo, using that right now in fact :)
[17:42] <Matthes_> is there a way to reset  /var/lib/dpkg/status ?
[17:42] <BluesKaj> ionut, having a separate ext4 /home partition is still the best way to go, then you won't have mount issues
[17:43] <avo> sam_sam, Heh. I guess that's always good advice. I'll burn me a livecd and boot to that and see if there's any glaring issues.
[17:43] <LjL> gyyg: the java, udev and initramfs is normal; the /dev/*pulse* stuff i'm not familiar with, but i imagine it's PulseAudio?
[17:43] <sam_sam>  is there a way(command) to see which ports are being used by which processes and how to  block them?(other than firewalls)
[17:43] <pr0xy> well, I think I fixed the drive that was on fire
[17:43] <hservice> Ubuntu 10.10 Install :        Error fsyncing/closing /dev/sda: Input/output error
[17:43] <belak> Ohmygosh. Xubuntu actually looks good.
[17:43] <ionut> BluesKaj:  i am not that good in ubuntu, and i don't know how to do that ...
[17:43] <Ryen> linuxR: So it is only the flash drive that is set to persistent?
[17:43] <sebsebseb> belak: I don't like Xubuntu much, but not tried 10.10 yet
[17:43] <hservice> anyone? please...? Ubuntu 10.10 Install : Error fsyncing/closing /dev/sda: Input/output error
[17:43] <sebsebseb> belak: here was some distro with a really good XFCE though that I virtual machine tried before
[17:43] <LCMDMa> 10.10 is really nice
[17:43] <Vanishing> hmm
[17:43] <LCMDMa> I switched over from Mint
[17:44] <Vanishing> anyone using thinkpad with 10.10?
[17:44] <linuxR> Ryen, I did not yet try to create a non-persistent disk with THIS stick...thats the next thing Im going to try
[17:44] <sebsebseb> LCMDMa: I think actsaully I would rather use the Mint Gnome, than the 10.10 hmm
[17:44] <BluesKaj> !partition | ionut
[17:44] <belak> Vanishing: just getting started with it, but yes
[17:44] <pr0xy> 10.10 is really hot. my drive started smoking.
[17:44] <Stormx2> sam_sam, http://tinyurl.com/2597hu3 second result.
[17:44] <Vanishing> belak: haha
[17:44] <Vanishing> belak: well
[17:44] <avo> LCMDMa, Did you do a fresh install or upgrade?
[17:44] <Doyle> Whats the recommended way to mount .cue image files?
[17:44] <LCMDMa> I did a fresh install
[17:44] <belak> Vanishing: how come?
[17:44] <Vanishing> belak: it seems i cant move my mouse in games, but click works fine
[17:44] <sam_sam> avo:well i am not as experienced user as most othere here are ..anyways they might help u more .. if u wait for them .. will be good too :D
[17:44] <Vanishing> belak: how come?
[17:44] <Ryen> linuxR: You might want to try that, since this issue is really unknown.
[17:44] <LCMDMa> Was running 10.04, but no updates appeared this morning so I just did a fresh install
[17:44] <A_New_Server> Stormx2, my VirtualBox does not have settings under machine, nor under any of the menu options
[17:45] <avo> sam_sam, Aha, no problems mate, we gotta start somewhere :)
[17:45] <mobasher> Doyle=>> you can load the bin instead ..what is it ?
[17:45] <ionut> hservice: burn again the image iso onto another CD/DVD
[17:45] <SDr> hiya all!
[17:45] <hservice> Ubuntu 10.10 Install : Error fsyncing/closing /dev/sda: Input/output error......Anyone have any ideas?
[17:45] <belak> Vanishing: just wondering. By mouse, you mean touchpad, I assume?
[17:45] <PAUSE> hi, im having trouble with my external harddrive, after i tried to format it using Gparted it disappeared and now i cant find it even though its running an plugged in, any suggestions?! (running 10.04 netbook remix))
[17:45] <linuxR> Ryen, okay, going to try...thanks for now, I'll give feedback when I know more
[17:45] <Vanishing> belak: touchpad..trackpoint...mouse..all of them
[17:45] <Vanishing> belak: i tried them all.
[17:45] <A_New_Server> Stormx2, there is "Shared Folders" under "Devices", but there is only one path option and that is the path in my Host to the shared folder
[17:45] <Ryen> linuxR: Okay. Good luck, I will continue to look for something.
[17:45] <noob-tux--> :((((((((((((((( i'm being ignored! whyyyyyyyyyy
[17:46] <hservice> me too....
[17:46] <LCMDMa> Noob what's your question?
[17:46] <sebsebseb> very busy channel at the moment
[17:46] <hservice> Ubuntu 10.10 Install : Error fsyncing/closing /dev/sda: Input/output error
[17:46] <jconlon> Should shared media go in my home directory, or should i created a user for this?
[17:46] <hservice> Ubuntu 10.10 Install : Error fsyncing/closing /dev/sda: Input/output error
[17:46] <sebsebseb> repeate your questions if not answered
[17:46] <sebsebseb> after a while
[17:46] <joblo12> Before I install Ubuntu is there anyway in finding out if my gfx card is supported?...
[17:46] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510219 <---- help
[17:46] <geckopunk> does anyone know of a good terminal connection program that will allow me to connect to multiple servers at one time - like VisionApp for Windows... but for Ubuntu?
[17:46] <Doyle> mobasher: a rip of Forsaken! I don't play using the disk, I mount an image... It's hard to find the disk so I keep it in the case.
[17:46] <mobasher> Doyle=>> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-convert-bincue-files-to-iso-in-ubuntu.html
[17:46] <Stormx2> A_New_Server; ... is that not what you wanted?
[17:46] <russlar> joblo12: what card do you have?
[17:46] <hservice> sebsebseb, Ubuntu 10.10 Install : Error fsyncing/closing /dev/sda: Input/output error, any ideas?
[17:46] <Vanishing> belak: by game of course i mean the 3d ones..not like card games
[17:46] <LCMDMa> @Job...had a problem with my video card until I installed the new driver set. All is well now.
[17:46] <Vanishing> belak: lols
[17:46] <Doyle> mobasher: I do the same with Oni, try finding that disk again.
[17:47] <joblo12> very old Matrox Graphics Millennium Edition II PCI
[17:47] <avo> Anyone here using an ATI Radeon card with Maverick? Any improvements/regressions from Lucid?
[17:47] <tommo> !geckopunk - do you mean like WebMin?
[17:47] <PAUSE> im having trouble with my external harddrive, after i tried to format it using Gparted it disappeared and now i cant find it even though its running an plugged in, any suggestions?! (running 10.04 netbook remix))
[17:47] <A_New_Server> Stormx2, I can't find the shared folder on Ubuntu
[17:47] <geckopunk> i'll take a look into WebMin...
[17:47] <Stormx2> A_New_Server: What is under "path"?
[17:47] <geckopunk> thank you tommo
[17:47] <Doyle> Thanks mobasher
[17:47] <sebsebseb> hservice: an Ubuntu install that went wrong?
[17:47] <jatt> PAUSE: was the device detected? what does sudo fdisk -l say.
[17:47] <joblo12> how does one obtain driversets in Ubuntu...
[17:47] <uLinux> anyone with plymouth problems? everything is ok?
[17:47] <joblo12> I am VERY interested in making this work
[17:47] <hservice> sebsebseb, YES, CANT INSTALL
[17:47] <sebsebseb> uLinux: I think Plymout his more fixed in 10.10 :)
[17:48] <PAUSE> jatt: invalid option 1
[17:48] <belak> Can anyone on 10.10 give me the output of du -h --mad-depth=0 /boot ?
[17:48] <uLinux> sebsebseb: :D
[17:48] <jatt> I wrote l not 1
[17:48] <hservice> sebsebseb, by the first time, my HD is not recognised by a linux distro
[17:48] <A_New_Server> Stormx2, C:\Users\Cyrus\Desktop\Shared(Ubuntu)
[17:48] <dku> How can I spoof my wifi card's MAC in Maverick? /etc/network/interfaces doesn't seem to work anymore...
[17:48] <hservice> sebsebseb, better said, my partition table..?
[17:48] <SDr> hmmmm
[17:49] <sebsebseb> hservice: maybe a bad CD, or failing hard disk,  or simpally some issue with the version of the dsitro and so not likeing
[17:49] <Stormx2> A_New_Server: Wait, are you on a windows host running ubuntu in a virtual machine?
[17:49] <SDr> problem: php5-fpm in /etc/init.d ,yet after reboot, it fails to start; issuing /etc/init.d/php5-fpm start manually works.
[17:49] <PAUSE> jatt: is as the hard drive isnt pluggedin
[17:49] <sam_sam> Stormx2:well with nmap i find some ports as open when i close it using firewall.. ( i guess firewall treats it as 'internal' traffic and allows.. unsure of it) and it shows me a suspicious open port (service ='bigbrother' :-O)
[17:49] <jon_> how do i view the souce code for a program
[17:49] <Xuzz> I installed the RC of 10.10 yesterday -- what's the best upgrade path?
[17:49] <A_New_Server> Yes, Stormx2
[17:49] <Stormx2> jon_: Download it using apt-get source nameofprogramhere
[17:49] <sebsebseb> !rc | Xuzz
[17:49] <wildc4rd> evening all
[17:49] <sebsebseb> !final | Xuzz
[17:49] <Stormx2> A_New_Server, then your problem has nothing to do with ubuntu. Join #VirtualBox
[17:49] <avo> wildc4rd, Morning :)
[17:49] <PAUSE> jatt: ok
[17:49] <A_New_Server> Stormx2, Ok thanks
[17:50] <hservice> sebsebseb, i will CRC it and  reburn another one,...thanks
[17:50] <Xuzz> wow, you already know all my questions, pre-programmed into a bot
[17:50] <uLinux> sebsebseb: right now disk utility says that my /home is misaligned by 1024 bytes and may cause poor performance. how can i fix this
[17:50] <Xuzz> awesome ;P
[17:50] <jazzfish> folks - while organizing my music I am trying to delete a directory which has a file in it that prevents it from being deleted...  I cannot delete this file: .fuse_hidden00021d6000000005 - doesn't look very good - any suggestions on how I may be able to blow this away?
[17:50] <sebsebseb> hservice: have you had other verisons of Ubuntu or  other distros, working ok on there?
[17:50] <overtherainbow> Okay, so I know that to make my macbook stop squealing I need to change something in the grub conf so the cpu doesn't go above c state 2.
[17:50] <mobasher> hservice=>> try burning at lower speed sometimes help ;-)
[17:50] <overtherainbow> But for the life of me I can't remember that option, any help?
[17:50] <hservice> mobasher, thanks
[17:50] <Stormx2> jazzfish: You might want to umount the partition
[17:50] <Claudioc27> hi! what is the md5 for ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386. i'm not able to find in official website
[17:50] <sebsebseb> uLinux: not suer what your on about, screenshot or something?
[17:50] <Stormx2> jazzfish, then re-mount and try again
[17:50] <hservice> sebsebseb, i just wiped out my mint8, it worked well
[17:50] <PAUSE> jatt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/510227/
[17:51] <jazzfish> would system restart achieve the same?
[17:51] <hservice> sebsebseb, installed using this same CDRW
[17:51] <TomatoIN> Hello! a blue line appeared on my screen after I updated. Any ideas of what is wrong? It appears everywhere now.. even in my boot screen
[17:51] <TomatoIN> any ideas?
[17:51] <sebsebseb> hservice: well yesterday I wiped out a distro as well, that was  working quite well on here, since I wanted to try   Unity in 10.10, which I have had no luck with at all so far
[17:51] <Stormx2> TomatoIN, even in your BIOS and GRUB? Sounds like a hardware issue
[17:51] <cupis> Claudioc27, 59d15a16ce90c8ee97fa7c211b7673a8
[17:51] <jatt> PAUSE: I guess /dev/sdb is your external hard drive, looks like there are no partitions on it
[17:52] <jazzfish> Stormx2: I can't unmount the partition that Ubuntu is running on - dual boot doze
[17:52] <PAUSE> jatt: that would make sense
[17:52] <ZeusCool> one more question >> is the difference only in looks between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[17:52] <jatt> PAUSE: try to run gparted with
[17:52] <jatt> gparted /dev/sdb
[17:52] <hservice> sebsebseb, I just found a huge amount of <<<ata1.00: failed command: READ DMA>>> in dmesg
[17:52] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: no
[17:52] <dku> How can I spoof my wifi card's MAC in Maverick? /etc/network/interfaces doesn't seem to work anymore, and if I change it by hand while the system is booted, NetworkManager won't connect...
[17:52] <joebodo> TomatoIN, your monitor cable is loose
[17:52] <TomatoIN> Stromx2, It started after the update.. first it was only when I was getting to ubuntu but now it is everywhere
[17:52] <sam_sam> Stormx2:well that webpage gave me the answer :)
[17:52] <Claudioc27> thanks cupis
[17:52] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: Ubuntu uses Gnome with a lot of Ubuntu specific stuff since  10.04, but these changes started with 9.04 and 9.10
[17:52] <zaytsev> Hi folks!
[17:53] <LCMDMa> @Zay...hi
[17:53] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: Kubutnu uses KDE, and   the Kubuntu set up is quite close to how upstream KDE do it, unlike  Ubuntu since 9.04 when comes to upstream Gnome
[17:53] <TomatoIN> joebodo, It is a laptop monitor
[17:53] <zaytsev> I'm trying to install 10.10 / RAID 1, but it seems there's no way to do it through UI, as I would e.g. do this with CentOS
[17:53] <sebsebseb> !gnome | ZeusCool
[17:53] <PAUSE>  jatt: weird i found the drive on gparted altough i checked it already... but now when i try to format it to FAT32 i get an error msg :S
[17:54] <zaytsev> I don't have spare CDs anymore, is there a way to avoid downloading and burning alternate CD?
[17:54] <ZeusCool> thanks sebsebseb
[17:54] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: http://www.gnome.org http://www.kde.org
[17:54] <jesse2> Hello! I just tried to install ubuntu along windows on my laptop.  Ubuntu did not detect my hard drive (perhaps because ih ave a RAID 0 configuration?) but detected my external hard drive and installed to that.  Now, I can't boot into windows.  It still won't detect my internal hard drive, and the boot loader doesnt recognize windows, either
[17:54] <Stormx2> TomatoIN, I'm tempted to say it's a coincidence. Are you running a laptop? Is the hinge still intact? If you get the blue line even during bios stuff then it's definitely a hardware issue. I'd say it's highly unlikely that ubuntu actually caused the issue (more often it's just stress on a ribbon connector)
[17:54] <PAUSE> jatt: "Can't have overlapping partions"
[17:54] <uLinux> sebsebseb: http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6294/warningq.png
[17:54] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510229/ <----i still got this error message after doing stuffs from the links given to me....i followed all those commands in terminal but i still got this 1 problem now...pls help :(
[17:54] <joebodo> TomatoIN, darn - i thought that was it for sure
[17:54] <Stormx2> jesse2, what error do you get? Missing MBR?
[17:54] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: in fact I can't just use Gnome happily anymore in Ubuntu since 10.04, because of all these Ubuntu only changes,  and how even after basic customising I am still not happy
[17:55] <jesse2> stormx2: well, it installed to my external hard drive on accident.  it doesnt detect my windows partition period.
[17:55] <TomatoIN> Stormx2, joebodo It is so bad to hear that. What I think it is strange it is the fact that when I get the splash screen it disappears and appears for a sec.
[17:55] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> so you prefer kubuntu over ubuntu
[17:56] <kontagious> hey im trying to boot the 10.10 installer from usb and it gets stuck on the copyright line
[17:56] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: no I actsauly prefer other distros over  Ubuntu these days :)
[17:56] <Stormx2> jesse2, I thought you said you couldn't boot windows? You need to be more specific as to what the problem is.
[17:56] <PAUSE> jatt: the last msg was when i tried it through GUI, running ur command i terminal resluted in this msg "Inhibit all polling failed: Only uid 0 is authorized to inhibit the daemon"
[17:56] <jesse2> stormx2: it won't boot windows.  it just boots straight into linux.  i dont see GRUB or anything like that.
[17:56] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: also Kubuntu uh no thanks, except for some KDE apps,  there are other distros that do KDE much better, but this is probably getting a bit off topic now hmm,  pm me if you want though, for more details I guess
[17:56] <sburjan`> Hello. I am getting some BusyBOx v1.15.3 build-in shell error at initramds " can't open /dev/sr0 when installing 10.10 .. anyone has any Idea ?
[17:57] <hservice> bytes~!
[17:57] <bencc> is it better to use python-opencv on 32bit or 64bit ubuntu?
[17:57] <zaytsev> Maybe I can partition the drive with RAID using gparted from install button?
[17:57] <jon_> 1
[17:57] <geckopunk> tommo, I received the following error after trying to install WebMin: dpkg: error processing webmin_1.520_all.deb (--install): short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/share/webmin/raid/view_raid.cgi')
[17:57] <Stormx2> jesse2, ah right. Well your options are 1) Investigate why ubuntu can't see windows (often it's just a dirty NTFS journal) and then add it as an option in GRUB, or 2) Find a windows CD and have it overwrite your MBR
[17:57] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> besides mandriva witch i've heared in some ways it is better then ubuntu, but it is not totaly free, can you name your favourite free linux distro?
[17:58] <sebsebseb> uLinux: ok not just the message the whole screen
[17:58] <kontagious> has anyone successfully installed 10.10 from usb?
[17:58] <jatt> PAUSE: are you running gparted with sudo?
[17:58] <jatt> sudo gparted /dev/sdb
[17:58] <jatt>  
[17:58] <jesse2> stormx2: sounds good to me.  i'll try those.  thanks!
[17:58] <belak> Installer crash. Wonderful.
[17:58] <newklear> ZeusCool ever had a look at PCLinuxOS ?
[17:58] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: yes Mandriva does KDE rather well indeed,  and its Gnome set up is ok,  Mandriva is basically on the verge of dieing now,  but a fork is going to be made, that will be very good :)  I am looking forward to it.  However now we have gone off topic hmm.
[17:58] <Gryllida> !details | kontagious
[17:59] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: HI! I'm on 10.10. It is out today.
[17:59] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: also PC LInux OS was a fork of Mandriva, and thats pretty good to,  which is probably what newklear wants to tell you
[17:59] <sebsebseb> ZeusCool: basically
[17:59] <magicianlord> Is the Unity interface good?
[17:59] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: yep 10.10 was released today
[17:59] <magicianlord> Gonna download the desktop or netbook edition later today.
[17:59] <sebsebseb> magicianlord: apparently there are still quite a lot of issues for people with Unity
[17:59] <sebsebseb> magicianlord: ,but if it works, I guess its good sure
[17:59] <Stormx2> My understanding is that PCLinuxOS is quite small and very old, no?
[17:59] <LjL> magicianlord: seems easier to try it than to ask...
[17:59] <magicianlord> You can shut it off, right?
[17:59] <sebsebseb> Stormx2: no way
[17:59] <PAUSE> jatt: then i get the error msg "can't have overlapping partions"
[18:00] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: after trying out ubuntu I'm thinking of trying out Debian itself, your ideas on it?
[18:00] <trans> hello everyone
[18:00] <ZeusCool> thanks
[18:00] <magicianlord> LjL: be positive, dawg
[18:00] <kontagious> im having a problem installing 10.10 fresh from usb. when i boot it it doesnt get past the copyright line. it says "SYSLINUX 3.86 2010-04-01 EBIOD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al"
[18:00] <sebsebseb> Stormx2: PC Linux OS is a rolling release,  so it keeps it self up to date
[18:00] <magicianlord> kontagious: i had the same issue
[18:00] <magicianlord> has this been resolved?
[18:00] <sebsebseb> Stormx2: won't have to re install for quite a while, but this is off topic now, like I was saying
[18:00] <tommo> geckopunk - it is a while since I ran an install - did you do this thro' repos or direct from website?  You *might* get a fix by running sudo apt-get install -f
[18:00] <trans> just heard about instant on, where is it available, does it comes along side with notebook edition?
[18:00] <LjL> magicianlord: i'm perfectly positive, but asking if something is "good" is entirely subjective (and not really ontopic). "sudo apt-get install unity" (or "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-netbook") is like less than 10MB
[18:00] <Gryllida> IdleOne: congratulations on arrival to 10.10!
[18:01] <kontagious> magicianlord: i think they need to update the usb installer
[18:01] <zaytsev> Ok, let's put it this way. Now that I booted Ubuntu from CD is there any tool that I can use to partition the drive for raid?
[18:01] <geckopunk> i already ran a sudo apt-get install -f
[18:01] <IdleOne> Gryllida: hehe thank you and thanks to all the people who worked hard on 10.10
[18:01] <geckopunk> hmmmm, i'll start with a reboot in 5
[18:01] <magicianlord> kontagious: yeah. i told them about this days ago
[18:02] <Xuzz> ... I just rebooted, and the boot logo was really low-res -- is that intended?
[18:02] <linuxR> Ryen, I now created the stick without using the "peristent storage" feature, and indeed it works!
[18:02] <D3luSi0n4L> hey, how do i upgrade from 10.10RC1 to 10.10final?
[18:02] <geckopunk> should I use tar/gzip instead of opening the deb pkg?
[18:02] <BlueMatt> anyone have any ideas as to which might cause high system cpu percent on an i7 desktop on 10.10?
[18:02] <uLinux> sebsebseb: http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/4443/warningv.png
[18:02] <magicianlord> Xuzz: that happens when you install the proprietary graphic rivers
[18:02] <sebsebseb> !final | D3luSi0n4L
[18:02] <Xuzz> magicianlord: aw, is there a way to fix that? :(
[18:02] <D3luSi0n4L> ooh ok
[18:02] <kontagious> magicianlord: is there a way to update from an 10.04 installation to 10.10
[18:02] <trans> !instant
[18:03] <kontagious> Xuzz: i don't think so
[18:03] <trans> !instant on
[18:03] <sebsebseb> kontagious: by defualt 10.04 will only show LTS, but you can upgrade to 10.10
[18:03] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | kontagious
[18:03] <magicianlord> kontagious: yes
[18:03] <Xuzz> kontagious: Is there any actual benefit to using the proprietary driver?
[18:03] <trans> just heard about instant on, where is it available, does it comes along side with notebook edition?
[18:03] <noob-tux--> i'm gonna tell my mom...nobody help me here! :( huhuhu  http://paste.ubuntu.com/510229
[18:03] <Stormx2> BlueMatt: Have you tried just checking what's causing the load? Open a terminal, type "top" and hit enter
[18:03] <jonathan> Is the http download speed good for 10.10?
[18:04] <ganja> Hosting local repositries for ubuntu 10.10 is ok ??
[18:04] <jesse2> What tool can be used to manage GRUB?
[18:04] <kontagious> Xuzz: sorry i think we're talking about something different
[18:04] <jonathan> Or should I go for torrent
[18:04] <sebsebseb> ubottu: uh what progarm is that?
[18:04] <BlueMatt> Stormx2: yea there are no processes causing the load, it just shows up under system%
[18:04] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the radeon drivers (ati 4850); videos play too fast and there's no audio, what do i do :c
[18:04] <sebsebseb> uLinux: uh what program is that?
[18:04] <cyberrider> hi , I have a simple question ... why the Alt+Print Screen key combination doesnt work anymore in Ubuntu 10.10???
[18:04] <noob-tux--> i'm gonna tell my mom...nobody help me here! :( huhuhu  http://paste.ubuntu.com/510229
[18:05] <BlueMatt> also, has anyone else noticed when they boot 10.10 with nvidia drivers they just see "Nvidia Beta Driver" and it never finishes initializing
[18:05] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: uhmm
[18:05] <Stormx2> BlueMatt, where are you seeing "system%"?
[18:05] <uLinux> sebsebseb: disk utility..
[18:05] <magicianlord> why does the iso say it was updated 10/7
[18:05] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: whats the issue?
[18:05] <magicianlord> wut is dis
[18:05] <sebsebseb> uLinux: what are you trying to do?
[18:05] <dementor> hy ther is a way to make server from thet i can install windows whit lan boot like PXE?
[18:05] <D3luSi0n4L> anyone know where I can get more themes?
[18:05] <cyberrider> hi , I have a simple question ... why the Alt+Print Screen key combination doesnt work anymore in Ubuntu 10.10???
[18:05] <uLinux> sebsebseb: nothing. it's just i see that message
[18:05] <noob-tux--> sebsebseb the link i gave that's my problem due to updating
[18:05] <BlueMatt> Stormx2: between 30 and 40 %sy in top, or system in other programs
[18:05] <Braber01> I'm having trouble getting Evloution set up for my windows Live accout, I'm not reciving or able to send my mail.
[18:05] <Stormx2> dementor, take more time when you type. There are guides available for PXE stuff. What's your host machine, and what are you trying to install?
[18:06] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: ah yes signature warning stuff
[18:06] <noob-tux--> yes
[18:06] <noob-tux--> this one is new
[18:06] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: well as long as you were only getting stuff from the standard repos, your fine, and you can ignore that
[18:07] <jatt> ignore it
[18:07] <noob-tux--> the old problem was fixed and i got another one sebsebseb
[18:07] <dementor> Stormx2 i need to instal wind on a pc and i what i whana go to bios ang just give lan boot
[18:07] <zaytsev> Ok I see a guide for 8.04, but the option "use as physical partition for raid" is now not there. It was a smart move I have to say. Well, I guess I have to waste another CD
[18:07] <azm> hi, If I use rm * in directory it deletes all files in that directory right ?
[18:07] <Stormx2> BlueMatt: That's not your CPU usage, that's the amount of your CPU time given over to stuff running in system mode
[18:07] <D3RGPS31> nevermind, had to remove pulseaudio >.>
[18:07] <jesse2> For some reason, I was not asked to configure the boot loader during install.  Is there a utility I can use to configure the boot loader once im in ubuntu?
 Well I have updated and receck for updates is my RC10.10 now the released version
[18:07] <Braber01> azm, yes
[18:07] <taisa> hi there, does anybody know, what following message during boot means: init network-bridge-device init failed
[18:07] <azm> ok thanks
[18:07] <kontagious> when i try and upgrade from terminal it says no new updates available
[18:08] <sebsebseb> ashfaq: ubottu is a female computer bot program
[18:08] <sebsebseb> !gender | ashfaq
[18:08] <Braber01> azm it might also delete the dircorys as yes.
[18:08] <Stormx2> dementor, You want to install windows, okay. And you're running ubuntu on the machine you want to act as the SFTP server?
[18:08] <Braber01> *well
[18:08] <FoolsRun> Questions: is rsync the best way to back up a whole Ubuntu system? How often do you back yours up? Can a backup be restored to another drive and booted simply?
 I had updated the system and rechecked now, is my RC 10.10 now the released version?
[18:08] <compizeffects598> Hi, I" love ubuntu and candy -eyecandy. Sadly, I cannot succceed to activate the animations and the extra animation plugins, all the others ones work perfectly. If someone could help this poor noob.
[18:08] <dementor> yews
[18:08] <BlueMatt> Stormx2: yes, so esentially kernel/driver/system process cpu usage.  Which I'm assuming if no processes show up using more than 1-2% and system % is at around 30-40 there is a kernel bug somewhere
[18:08] <sebsebseb> !final | ashfaq
[18:08] <Stormx2> BlueEagle, ah, I see what you're saying. I wouldn't know how to diagnose it past dmesg
[18:09] <azm> Braber01, nope, directories just remained
[18:09] <ASA> 'nabend
[18:09] <DexterLB> can I do a tag search in a similar fassion to f-spot in shotwell?
[18:09] <DexterLB> like display photos that are part of one tag but exclude those that are also part of another
[18:09] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: which is?
[18:09] <noob-tux--> sebsebseb: i got a 2.6.32-21-generic some got 32-25 how can i upgrade mine to 25? i tried sudo apt-get upgrade nothings change....pls help
[18:10] <sebsebseb> talas: no not exactly, but useually can ignore any boot up error messages :D
[18:10] <dementor> Stormx2 i just whant to now if is posible and if yes  ther are tutorials or somthing  becouse i whil  go and learn
[18:10] <ASA> Kann mir jemand sagen wie ich die 10.10 alternate auf einen usb stick als startmedium bekomme?
[18:10] <taisa> sebsebseb: well, its extending my booting time
[18:11] <ASA> die iso hatt 1,3GB
[18:11] <zaytsev> ASA, use unetbootin
[18:11] <D3luSi0n4L> how do i get this dock at the bottom? - http://lifehacker.com/5655827/screenshot-tour-our-favorite-new-features-in-ubuntu-1010
[18:11] <ASA> oh, sorry. wrong chan
[18:11] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: maybe your booted on an older kernel
[18:11] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: you upgraded from 10.04?
[18:11] <Stormx2> dementor: I believe it's possible. I've seen tutorials for ubuntu -> ubuntu, windows -> ubuntu, windows -> windows, and I assume there's some for ubuntu -> windows
[18:12] <compizeffects598> Do someone have the same problem I am on 10.10
[18:12] <noob-tux--> sebsebseb: yes...10.04
[18:12] <prower> i probably should have known better than to upgrade to a new release a day after it came out ;> anyone know of a workaround for this issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-application/+bug/625793?comments=all
[18:12] <sebsebseb> uLinux: when do you see the message?
[18:12] <sebsebseb> uLinux: when your trying to do what?
[18:12] <magicianlord> prower: what issue
[18:12] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: right so did you run uname -r in the termianl to see what kernel your actsually using?
[18:13] <uLinux> sebsebseb: when i select the /home partition
[18:13] <mjw99> I carried out quite a lot of testing of the upcoming 10.10 betas and RC to provide information to certain regressions. However, it seems to me, that my bugs are being ignored. Is this a common theme?
[18:13] <noob-tux--> sebsebseb: yes
[18:13] <scarleo> D3luSi0n4L, it is Docky
[18:13] <prower> magicianlord: The one I just linked to, but to be specific, it seems that in cases where you're switching keyboard layouts between two different languages it can cause gnome-settings-daemon to take the system out, 100% CPU
[18:13] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: maybe later kernel hasn't added itself to Grub 2 properly or at all
[18:13] <Ose> if my win7 is 64bit I go 64bit ubuntu, right?
[18:13] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | noob-tux--
[18:13] <D3luSi0n4L> scarleo: ok ty, now, does it remove the bottom bar?
[18:13] <magicianlord> prower: oh, that's bad.
[18:13] <sebsebseb> Ose: yeah I guess so
[18:13] <sebsebseb> Ose: well sure
[18:14] <kevingp17> hello
[18:14] <kevingp17> im new to this
[18:14] <sebsebseb> kevingp17: hi
[18:14] <scarleo> D3luSi0n4L, nope, but install and try, u can use it as bar as well
[18:14] <Xeno__> Okay burning image to disk now ^^
[18:14] <prower> magicianlord: yeah, to say the least :> not the only issue with 10.10 either by the sounds of it, although it's the only problem i've had myself so far
[18:14] <kevingp17> um what room is this?
[18:14] <chaostar> hello, I installed Ubuntu 10.04 some months ago and then one day the icon for the sound panel in Gnome went away, now I updated to 10.10 and it is still missing, how can I bring it back?
[18:14] <OzoneNerd> Hello, #Ubuntu.  I have successfully installed Ubuntu 10.10 on my Inspiron N7010.  In the Live CD, it fixed all the problems I had with 10.4, but when I tried to boot to the hard drive, it shows a blinking cursor, one irrelavent message is printed, a flash of the purple boot screen, and then blackness.  It restarts if I hit ctrl-alt-del or the power button but otherwise appears to be u\nresponsive.  Any suggestions?
[18:14] <Xeno__> Ubuntu channel
[18:14] <D3luSi0n4L> scarleo: ok 1 last thing, can i have it remove the bottom bar, and windows wont maximize over it?
[18:14] <Xeno__> o_O
[18:14] <kevingp17> yeah that sound thing happened to me
[18:14] <Stormx2> BlueMatt, ah, I see what you're saying. I wouldn't know how to diagnose it past dmesg
[18:14] <sebsebseb> !panels | OzoneNerd
[18:15] <scarleo> D3luSi0n4L, Yes
[18:15] <D3luSi0n4L> cool, how do i do that?
[18:15] <kevingp17> just go to system preferences and click on the sound
[18:15] <mjw99> For example, this a regression that crept in at the RC stage; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/655268 Surely someone should have looked into this before the 10.10 release? Is there more I could have done here?
[18:15] <BlueMatt> Stormx2: yea, sadly there is nothing in syslog or dmesg that could indicate a problem
[18:15] <kevingp17> but i dont know how to get it back on the bar
[18:15] <chaostar> OzoneNerd -- just that and it should be back to normal? When I try to manually add the audio icon, it won't appear in the list.
[18:15] <subone> Does anyone know of a solution to install Windows Xp/Windows7 without a CD (I have the ISOs but no blanks) from within Ubuntu? I tried UNetBootin, but it doesn't work with Windows I guess.
[18:15] <scarleo> D3luSi0n4L, install and try, if you don't like it just remove it
[18:16] <sebsebseb> subone: yep a virtual machien if you got enough RAM, and that works for most Windows apps, not so good for 3D gaming though for example
[18:16] <D3luSi0n4L> ok installing now
[18:16] <kevingp17> what is this room on genreal ubuntu?
[18:16] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox | subone
[18:16] <OzoneNerd> chaostar: I didn't understand what you mean by add the audio icon.
[18:16] <Stormx2> BlueEagle, might be worth unplugging peripherals to see if that makes any difference. My webcam can sometimes cause kernel panics, heh
[18:16] <magicianlord> subone: there is an easy tutorial for win7. it's not so easy for xp, but possible
[18:16] <fasta> !release-notes
[18:16] <Ose> bah
[18:16] <sebsebseb> subone: both versions are free as in price, but the open source version is also free as in freedom :)  like Ubuntu
[18:16] <sebsebseb> !freedom | subone
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> subone:  aparently it does work with windows 7 - from what i saw on a omgubuntu or webup8 site today
[18:16] <magicianlord> !isitout
[18:16] <luth> hi
[18:17] <Ose> whenever i'm in here i'm pinged when someone talks about virtual boxes or whatever
[18:17] <magicianlord> thanks, homie. thanks.
[18:17] <sebsebseb> Ose: you got the word on high light?
[18:17] <sniperjo> this sounds like a stupid question, but does it matter if during a make there is an error ?
[18:17] <uLinux> anyone tried to disable OSD messages in Maverick?
[18:17] <magicianlord> sniperjo: maybe
[18:18] <belak> So, I'm installing xubuntu 10.10 now.
[18:18] <sebsebseb> uLinux: notify-osd ?
[18:18] <Ose> sebsebseb: no, but my name does ping me
[18:18] <uLinux> yeah
[18:18] <chaostar> OzoneNerd: Just opened a private chat... I mean that on the Gnome panel (on the top of the screen) there is no audio icon and thus no audio panel, you know, for changing the volume, etc... it went away some months ago and I can't bring it back
[18:18] <belak> What do I need to install to have the kubuntu and ubuntu desktops as well... and llubuntu if possible
[18:18] <sebsebseb> uLinux: I think you just rmeove it and its gone, there is also the proper Gnome one in the repo, but not sure what its called
[18:18] <belak> s/llubuntu/lubuntu/
[18:18] <Xeno__> Hey i have a question, i have just burned Ubuntu V10.10 on a DVD and it took like, 3-5 minutes with IMGBurn. Im just wondering if 726,827,008 bytes sound right o_O
[18:18] <kevingp17> hey
[18:18] <chaostar> OzoneNerd: When I click on "Add to Panel" there is no audio icon option
[18:18] <sniperjo> magicianlord : how would i know if it did or not ?
[18:18] <cupis> Xeno__, sounds about right
[18:18] <kevingp17> dow do you work this program
[18:18] <kevingp17> how does it work?
[18:19] <sebsebseb> Xeno__: CD burning won't take that long for most of uh.  good idea to check your ISO before using by the way
[18:19] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[18:19] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[18:19] <subone> I don't want a Virtual Machine Windows i want to dual boot. I already have a partition open for it. Can I use virtualbox to install it to this partition and make it bootable?
[18:19] <uLinux> sebsebseb: gonna try to uinstall :p
[18:19] <frybye> anybody else haveing problems with 10.10 live cd on box with nvidia 240 grafic card??
[18:19] <Ose> did anyone here try playing civ5 under wine yet?
[18:19] <Gryllida> when is 9.04 support finishing?
[18:19] <Gryllida> !details | Ose
[18:19] <Gryllida> !anybody | Ose
[18:19] <BlueMatt> frybye: what is your problem im seeing occasional issues with a 260
[18:19] <sebsebseb> subone: no don't think so
[18:19] <mobasher> is there a program to sync iphone 4
[18:20] <kontagious> chaostar: add the "indicator applet"
[18:20] <Gryllida> when is 9.04 support finishing?
[18:20] <magicialord> ubottu: because it's scary
[18:20] <ph0n7r1c> hay guys
[18:20] <sniperjo> cupis: ive just installled ubuntu on a machine so i can test if olsr is working properly, but it wont install, im getting a make error
[18:20] <sebsebseb> subone: also if you put WIndows on after Ubuntu,  Windows goes over the Master Boot Record, and the only WIndows boots, and its a pain to sort that out, hence why people say to install Windows first before other OS's
[18:20] <uLinux> sebsebseb: eh, if i remove notify-osd it also removes a lot of other stuff that i need
[18:20] <noob-tux--> sebsebseb: i'm afraid to do those stuffs in changing to grub2...i dont have guts...maybe i'll mess it up...and my distro might not work... :(
[18:20] <ph0n7r1c> is it possible to upgrade from a CD
[18:20] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: right yeah I understand
[18:20] <Xeno__> Alright another question -- im new to "Ubuntu" as a matter of fact this is my First Time installing it. I was just wondering if any of you had a good "Tutorial"?
[18:20] <hebz0rl> anyone testet upgrading from 10.04?
[18:20] <russlar> ph0n7r1c: yes, you'll need the alternate cd
[18:20] <Gryllida> !install | Xeno__
[18:21] <sebsebseb> !manual | Xeno__
[18:21] <ph0n7r1c> 10.10
[18:21] <IdleOne> ph0n7r1c: yes, using the Alternate CD
[18:21] <sebsebseb> Xeno__: oh an install manual, so not the Ubuntu Manual really then
[18:21] <frybye> BlueMatt: at end of live-cd boot - there is just a colorfull mess on the screen - unusable... at the same time I have an -installed- version running fine - using it now - was a distrib update from 10.4
[18:21] <cupis> Gryllida, this month
[18:21] <Xeno__> Thank you ^^
[18:21] <Gryllida> hebz0rl: I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 just fine, it is stable officially
[18:21] <geckopunk> Tommo, you are the man... I could *almost* cyber-hug you...
[18:21] <Ose> Gryllida: I don't have any further questions, I just want to know whether anyone has tried
[18:21] <xerxex> "TERM environment variable not set." After upgrade to 10.10 using Tilda terminal client. Anyone?
[18:21] <ph0n7r1c> Alternate CD is a type of cd or the 10.10 release cd
[18:21] <hebz0rl> Gryllida, k thx will try it then
[18:21] <noob-tux--> sebsebseb: do i really need to upgrade my grub to grub2? for me to upgrade my kernel version? hehehe
[18:21] <magicialord> Xeno__: there are post-install guides you can search for, or ppl can give you tweak tips
[18:21] <geckopunk> pretty neat application (web-interface)
[18:21] <IdleOne> !alternate | ph0n7r1c
[18:22] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: no
[18:22] <nsahoo> can't boot after upgrade to 10.10
[18:22] <BlueMatt> frybye: no idea about that but I have seen my install not be able to fully initialize its nvidia driver
[18:22] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: however
[18:22] <scarleo> hebz0rl, working just fine here
[18:22] <Gryllida> Ose: someone did, of course, some wine users did try to play civ5 with wine
[18:22] <Gryllida> and?
[18:22] <prower> Gryllida, Officially stable doesn't mean without issues, see the link I mentioned earlier as an example :> if you're using two different layouts for your keyboard, for example, 10.10 is not a good choice (yet)
[18:22] <subone> sebsebseb, but doesnt virtualbox have a "use physical disk" option, where i can specify that partition, then manually add the entry for it in my real machine's grub.cfg?
[18:22] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: well what did you install, if you did a clean install of Ubuntu since  9.10 you already have Grub 2, if not you have the older versions of Grub which is easier to cofigure
[18:22] <ph0n7r1c> thank you
[18:22] <Gryllida> welcome
[18:22] <fasta> Was your upgrade a catastrophic event like with some previous releases?
[18:22] <nsahoo> downloading the upgrade cd now,but, not sure if I can save the installation
[18:23] <fasta> Or was the QA actually good this time?
[18:23] <D3luSi0n4L> scarleo: hey i really like it, how do i disable the regular dock?
[18:23] <sebsebseb> subone: virtualbox isn't really used for pshycial installs, however there is a way to boot up a pshyical install into virtual machine software, but thats not what your after anyway, and no I don'tk now the details about that
[18:23] <frybye> BlueMatt: I will be taking the same live cd to work tomorrow and trying on a test maschine there..see if that works...
[18:23] <xerxex> "TERM environment variable not set." After upgrade to 10.10 using Tilda terminal client. Anyone?
[18:23] <OzoneNerd> Hello, #Ubuntu.  I have successfully installed Ubuntu 10.10 on my Inspiron N7010.  In the Live CD, it fixed all the problems I had with 10.4, but when I tried to boot to the hard drive, it shows a blinking cursor, one irrelavent message is printed, a flash of the purple boot screen, and then blackness.  It restarts if I hit ctrl-alt-del or the power button but otherwise appears to be u\nresponsive.  Any suggestions?  How am I supposed to perform that sugg
[18:23] <bencc> for image processing using python-opencv, is it better to use32bit or 64bit ubuntu?
[18:23] <jesse2> What tool in ubuntu can I use to configure the boot loader?
[18:23] <Xeno__> ALSO: Lets say i wanted to have XP + Ubuntu on the same HDD. Is there an option that WONT erase my whole OS?
[18:23] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | jesse2
[18:23] <trism> uLinux: if you don't want to uninstall, but still want to disable, it is started by /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service so you could rename/move/delete that file to disable it
[18:24] <noob-tux--> sebsebseb: i do remember u told me that as long as my distro is working im good....but as i've read the gpg error it's all about ubuntu lucid-updates release... so if i got this problem i'm wondering if on the later part i can't get good updates for i got this error on the update release...am i right? correct me if i'm wrong :)
[18:24] <detrix> I have just finished the upgrade to 10.10, and its working just fine for the moment...
[18:24] <hebz0rl> bencc, do you have 4gb of ram or more?
[18:24] <D3luSi0n4L> anyone know how to disable the bottom bar? I installed docky and just want that to run
[18:24] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: oh maybe you got a lucid repo enabled still, when not meant to, since 10.10
[18:24] <hebz0rl> D3luSi0n4L, right click on the panel and choose "Delete This Panel"
[18:24] <frybye> BlueMatt: my installed version works real nice - just a bind to think will have to use an older live cd if get problems etc and need a live boot...
[18:24] <D3luSi0n4L> ok ty
[18:25] <detrix> D3luSi0n4L, you can right click on the bar, and the click delete panel
[18:25] <erUSUL> D3luSi0n4L: right click it; choose delete panel
[18:25] <Xeno__> ALSO: Lets say i wanted to have XP + Ubuntu on the same HDD. Is there an option that WONT erase my whole OS?
[18:25] <Stealth_AFK> Quick but fairly needed question, how many operations does gparted go through when resizing a HDD. I am doing it on a netbook and its taken 19 hours with 12 left so far so yeah
[18:25] <D3luSi0n4L> ty all =P
[18:25] <ph0n7r1c> why is the alternate cd a torrent not a direct iso
[18:25] <beilby> how can i get fingerprint reader to work?
[18:25] <makartetsky> has anybody used remastersys tool for backup your system?
[18:25] <nsahoo> has anyone faced similar problem? unable to boot after upgrade to 10.10?
[18:25] <BlueMatt> frybye: well then I have no idea, maybe a bad burn?
[18:25] <Stealth_AFK> Xeno__, just do a side-by-side install
[18:25] <cntrational> hey, where's the 64-bit torrent?
[18:25] <sebsebseb> Xeno__: you can dual boot, Windows and another OS
[18:25] <Endafy> torrent to 10.10 please
[18:25] <IdleOne> !torrents
[18:25] <sebsebseb> Xeno__: on the same hard disk
[18:25] <nOStahl> hey guys I am running ubuntu 10.10 rc, what do I need to do to update to the final version of 10.10
[18:25] <Xeno__> Instructions please? [aka link XD]
[18:25] <coz_> makartetsky,  not yes but I have looked into it ... I here it works well
[18:25] <sebsebseb> !final | nOStahl
[18:26] <bencc> hebz0rl:  4gb. I'm running ubuntu in vbox
[18:26] <nOStahl> ty
[18:26] <sebsebseb> nOStahl: your welcome :)
[18:26] <frybye> BlueMatt: I did one on the installed 10.10 getting the -mess- on booting .. then I have done another burn with nero on w7 - same results - used same iso though perhaps that is a mess - but unusual cos it was a torrent...
[18:26] <Stealth_AFK> Anyone know where I can get support got gparted related questions then?
[18:26] <makartetsky> coz_, i hope too. Do you think it saves also virtual machines installed?
[18:26] <cntrational> IdleOne: yeah, but which one is the 64-bit install?
[18:26] <sebsebseb> !ask | Stealth_AFK
[18:26] <hebz0rl> bencc, if you want to use the hole 4gb of ram you should use the 64bit version
[18:26] <detrix> is there a howto for after installing ubuntu server, to show how to incorporate the gdm desktop?
[18:26] <HoboPrimate> hi guys, is it possible to make vmware or virtualbox run a pre-existing windows partition?
[18:26] <Xeno__> Anyone?
[18:26] <ZeusCool> sebsebseb >> i have succesfully installed ubuntu 10.04, i've configured the network adapter, i can see my provider (i have ping working, traceroute, and lookup) but firefox and the default chat "ubuntu one" don't connect to the internet, is here a trick or something i must do to make them work?
[18:26] <Stealth_AFK> sebsebseb, I did ask, nobody knows the answer
[18:26] <BlueMatt> frybye: yea torrents check the file as it downloads, so I have no idea.
[18:26] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | Xeno__
[18:27] <Xeno__> Ty
[18:27] <Paddy_NI> Hey I am curious to know if any of the maverick goodies such as multi-touch support, indicator-appmenu and unity are being backported to lucid or if there is an updated ppa?
[18:27] <Xeno__> ^^
[18:27] <coz_> makartetsky,  well that one I am definitly not sure of... and you have to keep in mind the media you are saving to   I didnt find a way to continue this on 2 dvd's for example
[18:27] <sebsebseb> Xeno__: good idea to find out how to make a seperate /home by the way, well useually
[18:27] <matt___> hi all, quick question: once i've jumped out of X with ctrl+alt+f2, how do i jump back into it?
[18:27] <uLinux> sebsebseb: god damn cant disable osd stuff
[18:27] <sebsebseb> Xeno__: I mean before installing it
[18:27] <frybye> BlueMatt: next thing is to see what it does at work tomorrow - watch this space ;=)
[18:27] <karlo94> http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/?p=1030
[18:27] <Paddy_NI> matt___, ctrl+alt+f7
[18:27] <sebsebseb> Paddy_NI: maybe ppa's, but probably not for those
[18:27] <IdleOne> cntrational: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/ will have it, you want the Desktop-amd64.iso
[18:27] <trism> uLinux: just verified that moving the file to org.freedesktop.Notifications.service-disabled and relogging worked to disable it (and moving it back activates it again when a notification occurs)
[18:28] <TeT> Hi ! Just installer Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook edition on my netbook: When the computer start, it freeze until i mouse the mouse. If i don't do so the computer just hang up and wait ... anyone has an idea of how i can fix that ? thanks ! :)
[18:28] <Paddy_NI> sebsebseb, :(
[18:28] <makartetsky> coz_, there should be an option to see expected size of the whole backup
[18:28] <sebsebseb> Paddy_NI: actsaully I think yes,  there is probably a ppa out there for running Unity on 10.04
[18:28] <cntrational> IdleOne: oh, okay. thanks
[18:28] <Paddy_NI> would be nice if even the multitouch was backported to the lts
[18:28] <Kaspi> hey guys
[18:28] <mmaksimov> Why would a laptop under ubuntu 10.04 wake up immediately after goind to suspend/hibernate? Where should I look first?
[18:28] <uLinux> trism: i tried this sudo mv /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service.disabled
[18:28] <nOStahl> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release   is what sudo apt-get update tells me
[18:28] <Paddy_NI> sebsebseb, I will ask the ayatana guys cheers man
[18:28] <coz_> makartetsky,   you may be correct...as I said I have looked into it  but last time i tried it failed because the dvd was not big enough
[18:28] <sebsebseb> TeT: ok so
[18:29] <uLinux> trism: is that right
[18:29] <sebsebseb> TeT: I guess  it could be a bad CD, or possibily a Unity issue
[18:29] <matt___> Paddy_NI: thanks!
[18:29] <Gigacore> guys, am getting this error while upgrading. "Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release i386 (20101007)]/pool/main/libs/libsdl1.2/libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio_1.2.14-6ubuntu3_i386.deb Hash Sum mismatch"
[18:29] <uLinux> trism: and sudo chmod -x /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-osd
[18:29] <trism> uLinux: yes, that should work, then you need to log out, then back in, and notify-osd shouldn't start when a notification occurs
[18:29] <nOStahl> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release   is what I get when I try to sudo apt-get update
[18:29] <TeT> sebsebseb: i think i saw things about that bug when the RC was out :/ so i'am more into the Unity issue idea...
[18:29] <sebsebseb> TeT: which graphics card you got?
[18:29] <trism> uLinux: shouldn't need to chmod though, dbus won't know to start notify-osd if you rename the service file
[18:29] <Vanishing> can anyone help me with my mouse issue?
[18:29] <zaytsev> wtf I can't set bootable flag when editing a partition using the alternate cd?
[18:30] <sebsebseb> !language |  zaytsev
[18:30] <zaytsev> I should just press enter on bootable flag, right?
[18:30] <Vanishing> my mouse does not move in 3d game..yet clicking works..
[18:30] <Xeno__> Also i was wondering if its possible to set a background in Ubuntu o_O
[18:30] <sebsebseb> zaytsev: uhmm of course
[18:30] <TeT> sebsebseb: Mobile Intel® GMA 950
[18:30] <sebsebseb> Xeno__: uhmm of  course, right click on desktop and set a bit like Windows
[18:30] <Xeno__> Alright just checking
[18:30] <Xeno__> ^^
[18:30] <WXZ> firefox config is all inside .mozilla right?
[18:31] <sebsebseb> TeT: someone seemd to have been telling me earlier, that there may have been some issue with Intel, but I am not sure exactly
[18:31] <sebsebseb> TeT: I mean with Unity
[18:31] <kontagious> sebsebseb: not windows 7 starter
[18:31] <zaytsev> sebsebseb, it says computing new state and then nothing happens. It shows it as off. I want to set flag on /boot
[18:31] <DyingDawn> hi
[18:31] <sebsebseb> zaytsev: I messaged you there by mistake
[18:32] <sebsebseb> DyingDawn: hi
[18:32] <TeT> sebsebseb: Hopefully i don't really need my netbook now. I think i will wait until things settle down a little after update. Was just wondering if that wasn't a common bug...
[18:32] <Stealth_AFK> How many different operations should a gparted resize take, its been 19 hours, its going to be 31 when copying has finished, is there any more after that or am I good?
[18:32] <DyingDawn> is there a way to use the thunderbird notification tool without having to have thunderbird running in the background?
[18:32] <sebsebseb> TeT: no I think the Unity issues that are there now, will stay there untill 11.04
[18:32] <sebsebseb> TeT: or most of them anyway
[18:32] <Stealth_AFK> I am doing it on a netbook or it would not bother me
[18:32] <magicialord> What's better: notification-daemon or xfce4-notifyd
[18:32] <TeT> sebsebseb: omg :X
[18:32] <subone> Any other suggestions for permanently installing Windows XP with Ubuntu installed and no CDROM
[18:32] <sebsebseb> magicialord: I guess try both, and use what you want
[18:32] <magicialord> sebsebseb: which one
[18:33] <Vanishing> anyone help me?
[18:33] <sebsebseb> TeT: there is a way to run the older 10.04 netbook look in 10.10, but I don't know the details about that
[18:33] <TeT> sebsebseb: Maybe a custom fix at least :/
[18:33] <sebsebseb> TeT: well may be that for some issues sure
[18:33] <detrix> how do I find out whats new/changed in 10.10
[18:33] <kontagious> subone: try booting from usb
[18:33] <sebsebseb> !notes | detrix
[18:33] <nOStahl> man I love gnome-shell
[18:33] <subone> kontagious, i can...
[18:34] <subone> kontagious, what do i do with the usb?
[18:34] <sebsebseb> n0cturnal: indeed its pretty awesome really :)
[18:34] <Gigacore> guys, am getting this error while upgrading. "Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release i386 (20101007)]/pool/main/libs/libsdl1.2/libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio_1.2.14-6ubuntu3_i386.deb Hash Sum mismatch"
[18:34] <frybye> Stealth_AFK: what hardware are you using - a drowned hamster might take 19 hours - a legacy 286 from 8 years ago would do it in 2 hours if it runs at all...
[18:34] <magicialord> nOStahl: what you running it on
[18:34] <sebsebseb> nOStahl: above ^
[18:34] <kontagious> subone: im not sure with windows but ubuntu 10.10 usb installer is broke
[18:34] <Kaspi> Is there any possibility to switch off that user protection or screen saver or whatever it is when the screen darkens and requires a password after few activity?
[18:34] <BlueMatt> Gigacore: try re-downloading/reburning
[18:34] <sebsebseb> Kaspi: yep in the screensaver settings
[18:35] <Stealth_AFK> frybye, its a netbook
[18:35] <Wavesonics> ow are the 10.10 upgrades going? all smooth? or some problems ppl are seeing?
[18:35] <prower> !torrents
[18:35] <detrix> sebsebseb, thanks
[18:35] <subone> What about if i install Windows XP to a VM and then copy the files over to the real partition. Then somehow make it bootable...
[18:35] <Stealth_AFK> SO yeah, its slow, but I am wondering how long it should take on average to resize about 1tb
[18:35] <amonra> Is enlighment better then gnome?
[18:35] <frybye> Stealth_AFK: ok but 19 hours is off the top if I am not mistaken...
[18:35] <stanley_robertso> Wavesonics, i have installed 10.10 ubuntu desktop . however.. when trying to install GuestAddons [ iam using ubuntu on vmware server ] .. the server is crashing.. not sure of the reason/fix
[18:35] <sebsebseb> detrix: ok your welcome :),  however not that much difference for the destkop version from 10.04
[18:35] <magicialord> amonra: openbox
[18:35] <taiyal> I just installed Win7 and clobbered my MBR and now I need to reinstall GRUB to get dual-boot back. However, the only Ubuntu Live CD I have kicking around is for i386. Can I install it from there and have a 32-bit bootloader run on a 64-bit system to boot into 2 64-bit OSes?
[18:36] <kontagious> subone: i think you might have issues with the hardware not working if you do that.
[18:36] <Kaspi> sebsebseb: cool! I swore I was looking for it there, I wonder why I didnt see the option :-/
[18:36] <erUSUL> amonra: different; and is not complete desktop envoirment only a window manager
[18:36] <Stealth_AFK> frybye, its took 8 hours to read it or whatever, now its taking 20 hours to copy it. Is that the only operations it needs to do to resize it or are there more
[18:36] <sebsebseb> taiyal: well this is why peopole say have Windows isntalled first before doing another OS
[18:36] <amonra> ok
[18:36] <detrix> sebsebseb, I thought that the gnome 3 was going to be in this release...but I guess not
[18:36] <subone> kontagious, what? why? on a seperate partition?
[18:36] <sebsebseb> taiyal: and you can probably use the other CD to do it
[18:36] <sebsebseb> detrix: nope
[18:36] <frybye> Stealth_AFK: are you saying you have a netbook with 1tb installed...?
[18:37] <Stealth_AFK> No frybye, this is on a external harddrive
[18:37] <sebsebseb> detrix: it was going to be released in September, but  then delayed again untill March next year, was giong to be April 2010,  also  10.10 was never giong to use it
[18:37] <kontagious> subone: im not sure to be honest. what youre trying to do is above my knowledge. did you manage to get both os's bootable by usb?
[18:37] <sebsebseb> detrix: I hope it becomes default for 11.04 though and with the new Gnome Shell look :)
[18:37] <TeT> sebsebseb: Now that i think i downloaded the iso on something like "releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/" but the iso was last modified on 7th of october. Could it be that i just downloaded a previous version and not the final one ?
[18:37] <Kaspi> a messy ubuntu day right? :)
[18:38] <subone> kontagious, i dont know how to get Windows XP bootable from USB from within USB, all the tutorials use Windows applications to do it
[18:38] <sebsebseb> detrix: might not be so simple for them though, becuase of  down stream Gnome patches/changes they have been doing,  I mean the indicator applets  sound menus  social features and what not,  so will be interesting to find out  what wil happen :)  nearly time for that as well
[18:38] <TeT> sebsebseb: filename wasn't mentionning RC or anything
[18:38] <Wavesonics> I think I'll wait a week or so befor upgrading my work machine :P
[18:38] <detrix> sebsebseb, I have tried the alpha.  not so sure I really like it....yet
[18:38] <IdleOne> TeT: that is the correct version
[18:38] <sebsebseb> detrix: of Gnome Shell?
[18:38] <Stealth_AFK> frybye, basically, I want to know how many different stages are involved in a partitioning of a HDD
[18:38] <frybye> Stealth_AFK: perhaps sbdy else can give you a more knowedgable answer I just seem to assume that more than an hour or two to resize parts is unusual at least...
[18:38] <IdleOne> TeT: you downloaded the server iso correct?
[18:38] <mmaksimov> Why would a laptop under ubuntu 10.04 wake up immediately after goind all the way to suspend/hibernate? Where should I look first?
[18:38] <TeT> IdleOne: Netbook edition iso
[18:38] <sebsebseb> TeT: you can check which ISO you have if you still got it, plus check that its a good download, great idea
[18:38] <detrix> yes
[18:39] <detrix> sebsebseb, yes
[18:39] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  TeT
[18:39] <Stealth_AFK> frybye, Yeah I thought that
[18:39] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[18:39] <frybye> Stealth_AFK: gparted does it all anyhow - and in my experiance far quicker than you are talking about...
[18:39] <sebsebseb> detrix: not sure which one 10.10 has, but I guess its not the latest, since one came out recently
[18:39] <kontagious> subone: have you looked into a drive snapshot at all
[18:39] <Stealth_AFK> frybye, I can wait, I just want a estimate of how many operations gparted has to do
[18:39] <Vanishing> how can i solve mouse not moving in 3d game problem?
[18:39] <mipo> i don't get my nvidia gts 8800 working - no driver is working ...anyone an idea?
[18:40] <fasta> mipo, PEBKAC is my idea.
[18:40] <subone> kontagious, no, where can i get one?
[18:40] <Taluk> At one point I dual booted between Vista and Ubuntu 9.04 and I messed up my mbr now I've fixed it and now I've got windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.10. But I don't think I ever fully fixed it. When I restart my computer just shows the computer brand logo and never goes on to grup like it's supposed to. To use my computer I have to cut the power and plug it back in then turn it on. What could the problem ber?
[18:40] <TeT> sebsebseb: Yeah but on the ftp i browsed there wasn't any md5 or sha1 given so i don't really know on what i can compare :/ but let me see that documentation
[18:40] <kontagious> subone: different companies make programs that will do them. you have to have a working installation to be able to make a snapshot (im pretty sure)
[18:40] <sebsebseb> TeT: 9.04 also used the old version of Grub thats better really for many of us
[18:40] <frybye> Stealth_AFK: for me it has always been so quick that I gave your question no consideration...
[18:40] <sebsebseb> TeT: 9.10+ use Grub 2
[18:40] <Stealth_AFK> frybye, fair enough
[18:40] <frybye> sorry...
[18:41] <kontagious> subone: other than that im out of ideas. sorry man. im sure someone around here knows more than i do
[18:41] <Stealth_AFK> frybye, is there anyway I can backup data from the HDD, cancle the operation, and format the HDD to get it working again?
[18:41] <Stealth_AFK> Becauser I only got 1 file on there I need
[18:41] <fasta> mipo, to see actually what is going on, start your machine in the non-graphical environment make sure that lsmod|grep nvidia is empty and then do modprobe nvidia
[18:41] <TeT> sebsebseb: ?? I don't think your speaking to me there :)
[18:41] <difict> hey does anyone know a keyboard shortcut to switch between panes on nautilus (F3 for bringing up the extra pane)
[18:41] <sebsebseb> TeT: I just gave the liniks about checking ISO yeah
[18:41] <Vanishing> exit
[18:41] <fasta> mipo, then look at the output of the dmesg command.
[18:41] <joebodo> Do I have to use "sudo update-manager -d" in order to upgrade to 10.10 ?
[18:41] <frybye> Stealth_AFK: wrong way round pal - backups are made -before- messing with gparted...?
[18:41] <fasta> mipo, you shoud see something about the nvidia driver then.
[18:41] <check3r> how to change the gui font in kate?
[18:42] <fasta> mipo, if there are no errors, you could try to start your graphical environment.
[18:42] <Stealth_AFK> lol frybye, good point, its just 1 file on my external I forgot to back up
[18:42] <Stealth_AFK> ahh well, looks like I am going to have to wait
[18:42] <sebsebseb> TeT: Grub person left, ah well
[18:42]  * kontagious slaps ZykoticK9 around a bit with a large trout
[18:42] <joebodo> !upgrade
[18:42] <fasta> mipo, I am pretty sure that piece of hardware works, since thousands of people use it every day.
[18:42] <sebsebseb> TeT: and after my message that was meant to go to them
[18:43] <DexterLB> is it just me or pidgin wont connect to gtalk?
[18:43] <TeT> sebsebseb: there isn't the 10.10 hashes on the link you gave me :'(
[18:43] <sebsebseb> TeT: get on to them from here then http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10
[18:43] <Stealth_AFK> frybye, could it be a problem with my external HDD? Its brand new, and copys files at about 2.4MB a second, not sure if thats a normal speed for a HDD or not
[18:43] <mipo> fasta: okay thanks, i try it (again)
[18:44] <TeT> sebsebseb: Ah yes that's here i downloaded the iso. Let me check the hashes :) Thanks
[18:44] <frybye> Stealth_AFK: hmmm is it running at usb1 speed...?
[18:44] <Stealth_AFK> frybye, its USB 2
[18:44] <uLinux> trism: still couldnt get it work
[18:44] <Stealth_AFK> It took it about a hour to copy 40gb worth of files to it, and gparted is taking about the same speed to do the operations
[18:45] <hebz0rl> 250!°
[18:45] <frybye> yeah - the netbook and the disk - should be at usb2 but it sounds like it is in fact connection at the legacy speed...
[18:45] <tuttifrutti> Hiya folks. I just recently installed Lucid...now, how do I force the installation to  boot into console mode?
[18:45] <ikonia> tuttifrutti: disable gdm
[18:45] <Stealth_AFK> frybye, I used it with a different computer and got the same speed
[18:45] <ikonia> tuttifrutti: that will stop X from loading
[18:45] <mipo> ps -A
[18:45] <Cordell> ubuntu 10.10 live review at http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/?p=1030
[18:45] <Stealth_AFK> So what you are saying is it could be the HDD's fault?
[18:45] <ZykoticK9> subone, kontagious i'm the wrong person for Windows partition/bootable issues ;)  good luck subone.
[18:45] <ikonia> Cordell: please keep that out of this channel
[18:46] <tuttifrutti> ikonia: Something like "sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove"?
[18:46] <frybye> Stealth_AFK: does it need a propriatory driver installed - a few external hd-s do it that way...?
[18:46] <trism> uLinux: is notify-osd still running? perhaps: killall notify-osd;
[18:46] <ikonia> tuttifrutti: not remove, but disable seems better to me
[18:46] <Stealth_AFK> frybye, its a WD, Came with no software CD's
[18:46] <tuttifrutti> ikonia: OK. No runlevels used under Ubuntu?
[18:46] <Stealth_AFK> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/b002e7hevu/geizhals07-21/ref=nosim?m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
[18:46] <frybye> Stealth_AFK: not sure what would be causing it - but sounds like ti si running far to slow...
[18:46] <ikonia> tuttifrutti: nope, long gone
[18:46] <difict>  hey does anyone know a keyboard shortcut to switch between panes on nautilus (F3 for bringing up the extra pane) ???
[18:47] <uLinux> trism: "there's still one tooltip setting that can't be turned off yet. it's the metacity decorator bar tooltip. it's the one that tells you what the X in the titlebar does for those of us that can't remember that it closes the window."
[18:47] <frybye> try it on another usb port???
[18:47] <Stealth_AFK> YEah frybye, looking at the reviews I think that this HDD is faulty
[18:47] <tuttifrutti> ikonia: I've been away for a while :) Why no more - they seemed rather handy?
[18:47] <mipo> fasta: Problem was, that nouveau was running - i killed it and installed the driver then
[18:47] <uLinux> trism: maybe it's that
[18:47] <frybye> Stealth_AFK: take it back pal!!
[18:47] <TeT> difict: Maybe CTRL+Right or Left ? or something like that
[18:47] <Paddy_NI> would anyone know the name of the multi-touch package that comes in maverick as it is shown in synaptic?
[18:47] <ikonia> tuttifrutti: I'm not a fan personally, byt ubuntu likes event driven rather than run level driven init
[18:47] <Paddy_NI> trying to find a possible ppa
[18:47] <Stealth_AFK> frybye, I have got to do the partition first, and I got it from amazon. What would you suggest in terms of the partitoning?
[18:47] <trism> uLinux: yeah, perhaps notify-osd isn't your problem, because it has nothing to do with tooltips
[18:48] <Xeno__> is 24 GB enough for Ubuntu?
[18:48] <uLinux> trism: also disabled tooltips from gconf-editor
[18:48] <tuttifrutti> ikonia: OK. Well, thx for the help! Have a nice day.
[18:48] <frybye> if the hd is defective then nothing...!
[18:48] <sebsebseb> Xeno__: depends
[18:48] <dan___> are the ubuntu servers okay? the updater has been acting weirdly all day and i cant upgrade to 10.10
[18:48] <difict> TeT: na, already tried that, doesn't work
[18:48] <detrix> I am not getting he volume control icon in the applet systray.  How do I get it back?
[18:48] <Xeno__> What do you mean
[18:48] <D4CH> Im using the Ubuntu Notebook Remix, will the 10.10 update come later for me? Because the update manager is empty (just refreshed) and I'm still running 10.04
[18:48] <Stealth_AFK> frybye, but the problem is it works fine, its just got amazingly slow speeds compared to what it should have
[18:48] <ikonia> !upstart > tuttifrutti
[18:48] <erUSUL> dan___: overloaded; wait a few days
[18:48] <sebsebseb> Xeno__: personally I would do like 10GB and big seperate /home :)
[18:49] <dan___> erUSUL: will do, thanks
[18:49] <Xeno__> what do you mean by /home?
[18:49] <jg47hm> guys how to download and install (jre java)
[18:49] <Xeno__> Honestly
[18:49] <Xeno__> Im cluelesss
[18:49] <Xeno__> Im an extreme noob xD
[18:49] <erUSUL> !java | jg47hm
[18:49] <sebsebseb> !home | Xeno__
[18:49] <joebodo> erUSUL, why the need to wait ? can i just do update-manager -d ?
[18:49] <pinnen> I have booted 10.04 live cd now, but it want me to login with username and password? I have tried login in blank, what should I do?
[18:50] <tuttifrutti> ikonia: Right, thanks again. Things have changed ;)
[18:50] <uLinux> trism: "Disabling tooltips from gconf-editor removes the tooltips from the top menu and menu entries, but on the bottom panel for example, the tooltips remain for all its elements."
[18:50] <ikonia> tuttifrutti: they have
[18:50] <pinnen> is there a default password or something?
[18:50] <Xeno__> lol the only thing i want to do is install Ubuntu *shrugs*
[18:50] <sebsebseb> Xeno__: ok so you know C and D in Windows right?
[18:50] <Xeno__> im new
[18:50] <Xeno__> Ya o_O
[18:50] <sebsebseb> Xeno__: ok go with the guided install I guess then
[18:50] <Stealth_AFK> frybye, I think I am going to let it finish the partitioning then take it back to the shop
[18:50] <gfyhser> hi
[18:51] <D4CH> Im using the Ubuntu Notebook Remix, will the 10.10 update come later for me? Because the update manager is empty (just refreshed) and I'm still running 10.04
[18:51] <joebodo> If I do "update-manager -d" will that upgrade me to the RC or the final ?
[18:51] <frybye> Stealth_AFK: back to the "amazon" shop?
[18:51] <Xeno__> tahnks for the help though seb ^^
[18:51] <Stealth_AFK> lol frybye, pretty much
[18:51] <Xeno__> thanks*
[18:51] <cupis> D4CH, no it will be out now, but you will need to tell it to update away from the LTS release
[18:51] <sebsebseb> Xeno__: setting up a seperate /home can be useful, but is also a bit more of an advanced thing to do.   ,but basically home would be like D in Windows,  except would make re installing easier, can be useful, but isn't really needed a lot of the time
[18:51] <Stealth_AFK> I got another few days worth of partitioning to do first I think tho frybye unfortunatly
[18:51] <D4CH> oh
[18:52] <cupis> joebodo, final
[18:52] <joebodo> cupis, thx
[18:52] <cupis> D4CH, run update-manager and change the settings to allow Normal releases (not just LTS), then run update-manager -c
[18:52] <D4CH> cupis: how do I do that?
[18:52] <Xeno__> i see
[18:52] <sebsebseb> Xeno__: having a seperate I mean.  by default Ubuntu puts it in /  so think C
[18:52] <Xeno__> brb ^^
[18:52] <cupis> D4CH, ^
[18:52] <D4CH> Ill try, thanks
[18:52] <detrix> I have installed the server edition on my desktop, but want to also have the gdm/gnome login.  is there a howto to install the gdm/gnome desktop now that I have the server edition installed?
[18:52] <detrix> Or is there an easy sudo apt-get install ???
[18:53] <frybye> anyhow never mind - I am off here now - have fun...congratulate you on your approach as a customer - perhaps if you buy a bmw you will also say - it is basically just fine - flat out does about 25mph.... heheh bye now...
[18:53] <trism> uLinux: perhaps try a gtk fix, add: gtk-enable-tooltips = 0 to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 , seems to work here (after relogging)
[18:53] <Xeno__> Lol i have adrenaline rushing through me -- i have recovery discs so TECHNICALLY i wont REALLY lose windows
[18:53] <D4CH> Whats the point of LTS? I can always go here and get support?
[18:53] <cupis> detrix, install ubuntu-desktop package
[18:53] <lorenzosu_> Hi all. How can I tell ubuntu to use a ppa for only one single package?
[18:53] <anygivenname> the ddclient service is running on my machine but there is one specific location whereby when I connect from, it changes the IP on the dyndns.org & accordingly makes the connection impossible......does anyone know why ?
[18:53] <sebsebseb> !lts | D4CH
[18:53] <trism> uLinux: although at this point, I'm not really sure what you're trying to do, because I thought you were trying to disable notifications
[18:53] <sebsebseb> D4CH: support as in security updates
[18:53] <detrix> cupis: thanx
[18:53] <D4CH> aha
[18:53] <sebsebseb> D4CH: sometimes other kinds of updates as well
[18:53] <cupis> detrix, or try just gdm and gnome-desktop and see if you gives you what you want
[18:53] <uLinux> trism: notifications and tooltips ;)
[18:53] <sebsebseb> D4CH: a standard release such as 10.10 is only supported 18 months
[18:54] <infid> i have a file foo.pl that's 755, but when i symlink it with 'ln -s ../foo.pl' the symlink has 777 permissions. why is this?
[18:54] <D4CH> sebsebseb: But if I just keep updating to the newest each time, then thats no problem for me. I dont need LTS then?
[18:54] <sebsebseb> D4CH: and when a release goes end of life,  you can't just get support for it in here anymore either
[18:54] <sebsebseb> D4CH: also with an LTS
[18:54] <sebsebseb> D4CH: if you stay on a LTS, you can skip the versions in between, since an LTS can be directly upgraded to the next LTS
[18:54] <joebodo> cupis I had LTS upgrade setting in update-manager (for some odd reason), changing that and refreshing now shows the upgrade button
[18:55] <D4CH> Hmm
[18:55] <sebsebseb> D4CH: if you do updates, and have a version in betwee, you have to do all the versions in between, untill you have a LTS
[18:56] <sebsebseb> D4CH: also LTS's apparnetly get a bit more stable as well, when time goes on, because of the point .releases for example  10.04 is already on its 10.04.1
[18:56] <shadaloo> hi how can i change my @ubuntu hostname
[18:56] <AbhiJit> !hostname | shadaloo
[18:56] <shadaloo> to my own string
[18:56] <uLinux> just found a bug? go to nautilus, right click, new folder, select, f2 remate it and make hidden folder, press enter and try to open the folder. doesnt work..
[18:56] <sebsebseb> D4CH: 8.04 the previous  LTS is on 8.04.4  now and yep still supported
[18:56] <stodertoad> anyone know about dumphd
[18:56] <D4CH> sebsebseb: Thank you. I'll upgrade to 10.10 then :)
[18:56] <uLinux> *rename
[18:56] <shadaloo> AbhiJit: cheers
[18:56] <techbreak> can anybody tell me whats this problem.... i got it while installing ubuntu 10.10 from usb... "peter anvin unknown keyword in configuration file"
[18:56] <anygivenname> the ddclient service is running on my machine but there is one specific location whereby when I connect from, it changes the IP on the dyndns.org & accordingly makes the connection impossible......does anyone know why ?
[18:57] <sebsebseb> D4CH: well 10.10 doesn't really offer that much advantage over 10.04 for the desktop version, from what I have seen, but sure if you want it, well ok then, but never really isn't always better
[18:57] <D4CH> sebsebseb: It's a notebook, I can just format if something goes wrong
[18:57] <erUSUL> techbreak: peter anvin is the author of syslinux. syslinux is a bootloader used to run iso's from usb sticks
[18:57] <sebsebseb> D4CH: ok
[18:58] <magicialord> 10.10 offers under-the-hood changes
[18:58] <ubuntulinux> is there any way the gconf-sanity-check failure of bootup (before login) gets fixed. the other problem is the pm-gtk module failure.
[18:58] <sebsebseb> magicialord: yeah, but nothing major
[18:58] <sebsebseb> magicialord: compared to 10.04
[18:58] <shadaloo> !hostname
[18:58] <techbreak> erUSUL, now what should i do,.. cant install...
[18:58] <fasta> Xeno__,  my usr dir alone is 10GB.
[18:58] <shadaloo> why is hostname saying unable to resolve
[18:58] <magicialord> sebsebseb: i still prefer 9.10
[18:58] <shadaloo> nm
[18:58] <shadaloo> peace
[18:59] <fasta> Xeno, I always use 30GB for everything which is not $HOME.
[18:59] <lorenzosu_> !pinning
[18:59] <sebsebseb> magicialord: well I still prefer 8.10, but haven't used that for quite a while, also that release went end of life on April 30th 2010
[18:59] <techbreak> cant install ubuntu 10.10.. help help help
[18:59] <erUSUL> techbreak: dunno; not the first one with that problem ... you used the usb-creator of lucid?
[18:59] <magicialord> so what
[18:59] <nsahoo> hi guys, I am having some trouble booting after upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10. it was saying something to the effect that can't find the disk or something. but, it booted fine when I chose 2.6.32-25-generic kernel in the grub menu. So, is it recommended that I use the old kernel? Or is there a way to make it boot with 2.6.35-22-generic kernel?
[18:59] <techbreak> erUSUL, yeah..
[18:59] <difict> damn i give up :/ i tried all combinations that might have been possible. screw it, i'd rather just use the mouse!
[18:59] <sebsebseb> magicialord: also the current best release in my opinion that is still supported, 9.04,  doesn't have that much longer now, and it will go end of life as well
[19:00] <ubuntulinux> the gconf-sanity-check failure however allows the root login if done from a gdm login manager; but with kdm login manager the root login is also disallowed, plus the fact that even the safe mode bootup fails;
[19:00] <anygivenname> i am buying a new PC....do I copy the whole HDD to the new HDD or do I need to do anything more ?
[19:00] <ugliefrog> I had to delete my partitions and start from scratch to get into install
[19:00] <magicialord> sebsebseb: 9.04 sucked for me. ok
[19:00] <erUSUL> techbreak: then we can declare that is broken... you may try with unetbootin
[19:00] <noob-tux--> this is getting weird.....i still got the same problem....making me nuts here.... gpg error: http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates Release: invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu archive automatic signing key // W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/release   :((((
[19:00] <sebsebseb> magicialord: 8.04 is quite nice, and thats got untill April next year, on desktop
[19:00] <Paddy_NI> anygivenname, you should take a look at clonezilla
[19:00] <techbreak> erUSUL, i hae maveric in another laptop.. can i make bootable from there n use it?
[19:00] <anygivenname> where is clonezilla ?
[19:00] <magicialord> sebsebseb: bad intel drivers and crashes
[19:00] <erUSUL> techbreak: maybe usb-creator of maverick works well
[19:01] <sebsebseb> magicialord: ah yes the 9.04 Intel issue
[19:01] <erUSUL> techbreak: as i said other people reported the problem you are seeing
[19:01] <WXZ> I'm having a lottttttttttt of problems :(
[19:01] <uLinux> trism: that trick works
[19:01] <sebsebseb> !details | WXZ
[19:01] <Paddy_NI> anygivenname, http://clonezilla.org/
[19:01] <ubuntulinux> so the problem seems to be with gconf (and not gnome, kde, xfce or gdm, kdm, xfce); on the other hand the failure of safe-mode as well as the pm-gtk are among the other issues.
[19:02] <techbreak> erUSUL, well let me try this one too.. (the other one with marveric is upgraded one, not fresh installed)
[19:02] <WXZ> I was copying virtual box in nautilus, and it didn't copy all the way
[19:02] <Ose> Okay, so the installer is not as intuitive as it used to be. Previously i've been able to install 10.04 alongside vista, now I can't seem to figure out how to install 10.10 alongside win7. I gest "no root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu.", but it's not obvious where said menu is located
[19:02] <WXZ> so a file was split
[19:02] <WXZ> and I don't know what to do now
[19:02] <noob-tux--> this is getting weird.....i still got the same problem....making me nuts here.... gpg error: http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates Release: invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu archive automatic signing key // W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/release   :((((
[19:03] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: right ok
[19:03] <dengaku_sco> is Ubuntu known for making Flash slow o having problems with it?
[19:03] <dengaku_sco> or*
[19:03] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: so we want software sources, which has to be accessed in another way in 10.10 from before :(
[19:03] <WXZ> dengaku_sco: seems like it
[19:03] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: or still through synaptic :)
[19:03] <ubuntulinux> the main problem is gconf-sanity-check, then failure of safe-mode bootup and the pm-gtk module.
[19:03] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: synaptic or software centre
[19:03] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: used to be in the  menu
[19:04] <WXZ> ok, simpler problem
[19:04] <noob-tux--> sebsebseb: i dont get it bro... :(
[19:04] <dengaku_sco> is it known to make the internet slow too?
[19:04] <joebodo> sebsebseb, you can reenable the menu option
[19:04] <WXZ> dengaku_sco: no
[19:04] <WXZ> what's the folder for cronjobs?
[19:04] <Noble> I accidently hid my menubar and everything but the file view in nautilus, how can I get it back? :(
[19:04] <dengaku_sco> ah
[19:05] <WXZ> or jobs that you set up in gnome-scheduler
[19:05] <erUSUL> !cron > WXZ
[19:05] <sebsebseb> joebodo: oh yeah I think I read something about that actsaully, but don't have the link on me now,  and I won't be having 10.10 on here for that long anyway, plus now I am on Lubuntu :D
[19:05] <ubuntulinux> i'm using ubuntu9.10 and plan to change when gnome3 is incorporated into ubuntu11.04
[19:05] <sebsebseb> ubuntulinux: nice idea, however
[19:05] <sebsebseb> ubuntulinux: I have this feeling that 11.04 may not be using the  new look, because of their Gnome patches
[19:05] <ikonia> ubuntulinux: well, 11.04 hasn't even be spec'd yet, so no point discussing it
[19:05] <noob-tux--> sebsebseb: how can i update the repos? i got this message not updated.... and still got the error :(
[19:05] <ubuntulinux> i still prefer gnome desktop
[19:06] <anygivenname> does anyone know about dyndns ?
[19:06] <IdleOne> Software sources can also be accessed from Update Manager  and clicking on Settings in the bottom left corner
[19:06] <sebsebseb> ubuntulinux: Ubuntu Developer Summit is at the end of this month, and then people, will know the plans for 11.04
[19:06] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: so you want software sources
[19:07] <sebsebseb> noob-tux--: and then I think its just remove the thing  that is giving the message
[19:07] <noob-tux--> how can i remove this bro?
[19:08] <Siph0n> join #ubuntu+1
[19:08] <IdleOne> noob-tux--: what is the error you are getting?
[19:08] <IdleOne> Siph0n: +1 is closed for now.
[19:08] <himanshu> yes
[19:09] <Siph0n> IdleOne, thanks... I forgot the / , and just saw the title here.
[19:10] <ChiVampir> Anyone else with problems with compiz-fusion-plugins-extra after doing a fresh install into Ubuntu 10.10?
[19:10] <Kendalja> hello
[19:10] <ChiVampir> Hi :)
[19:11] <Kendalja> I see that 10.10 was released. How can I update my 10.04?
[19:11] <Kendalja> do i need to dl the cd?
[19:11] <ubuntulinux> what fails me to understand is: although gnome, xfce, lxde, icewm, e17, etc all are gtk based, none of the others are affected.
[19:11] <sebsebseb> Kendalja: no
[19:11] <erUSUL> !upgrade | Kendalja
[19:11] <anygivenname> does anyone know about dyndns ?
[19:11] <erUSUL> ubuntulinux: e17 is not gtk based not sure about icewm
[19:12] <rizzuh> Maverick's installer is SO DAMN AWESOME. Good job!
[19:12] <monkey_d_luffy> I'm getting a weird charset problem in a chroot'ed system that I kexec'ed into.   It is especially noticeable in ncurses programs like aptitude.   1 pic > 1000 words, so: http://www.uploadgeek.com/image-AE48_4CB1F6F6.jpg
[19:12] <sebsebseb> rlankfo: yeah other distros should make an installer, where partitioning is one of the first things as well :)
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> e17 uses the 'elf' libs.. and icewm - hhas a gnome variant.. but i dont think it uses gtk
[19:12] <monkey_d_luffy> My locales are configured to en_US.UTF-8   and  I have choosen my keyboard layout with  kbd-config.   What is the problem?
[19:12] <batpepo> ubuntu 10.10  is great. Thanks!
[19:13] <sebsebseb> rlankfo wrong one.   rizzuh see above :)
[19:13] <rizzuh> sebsebseb, heh.
[19:14] <jatt> it's worth to upgrade to 10.10?
[19:14] <rizzuh> YES
[19:14] <sebsebseb> jatt: depends
[19:14] <rizzuh> Does Maverick's installer set up LVM when using the full disk?
[19:14] <Kendalja> I ran update manager but it doesnt show 10.10
[19:14] <rizzuh> jatt, for production servers you might want to stick for 10.04.
[19:14] <tedje> new release 10.10 :-)
[19:14] <rizzuh> Kendalja, enable updating to normal releases in software sources.
[19:14] <tedje> is upgrading my server
[19:14] <mobasher> how do i get my mouse to scroll to work to goto different workspaces ??
[19:15] <ganeshran> I am looking for driver for broadcom card
[19:15] <ganeshran> hi do you have a document for list of linux drivers of common wireless cards?S
[19:15] <rooks> how to install Radiance theme from 10.04 on 10.10 ? the new bright theme just is ugly
[19:15] <Aemaeth> mobasher, you can use the compiz settings manager to do that if you're in compiz
[19:15] <ter0> maverick is awesome
[19:15] <Kendalja> rizzuh: where is that option?
[19:15] <IdleOne> Kendalja: go to System > Administration > Software Sources > click on the updates tab and at the bottom change it to normal releases. then close and reload.
[19:15] <Aemaeth> ter0, i'm really excited :3
[19:16] <rizzuh> Kendalja, update settings.
[19:16] <AbhiJit> ganeshran, see on tldp.org if they have a doc
[19:16] <mobasher> Aemaeth=>> is it System ->Preferences -> appearence ?
[19:16] <rizzuh> Kendalja, I don't have Ubuntu running ATM so I can't tell you exactly.
[19:17] <Aemaeth> mobasher, well, if you install "Compiz Fusion Icon" then it will make it easier for you to change compiz settings
[19:17] <chrissharp123> Kendalja: System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[19:17] <Kendalja> got it
[19:17] <ChiVampir> So no one had problems with  compiz-fusion-plugins-extra problems? Can't seem to get the effects to work in Ubuntu 10.10 :(
[19:17] <Kendalja> thanks all!
[19:17] <webPragmatist> whats the mount equivalent to "none rw,bind 0 0" in fstab
[19:17] <webPragmatist> mount --bind -o rw ?
[19:17] <webPragmatist> mount -o bind rw ?
[19:17] <ter0> can't wait for Natty Narwhal
[19:18] <ubuntulinux> is the wm desktop based on wx; it was mentioned that wm uses the wing3d vector graphics; wx has been stated to prefer either win32, carbon, gtk or wxuniversal (probably of wing3d).
[19:18] <Aemaeth> mobasher, and then it's a matter of finding the correct bindings for changing workspaces
[19:18] <ganeshran> AbhiJit: thanks. I will check it. Anyone know what the driver is for Broadcom BCM4312 wlan card
[19:18] <WXZ> erUSUL: that didn't help
[19:18] <WXZ> erUSUL: and the second link is broken
[19:18] <AbhiJit> !broadcom
[19:18] <AbhiJit> ganeshran, ^^
[19:19] <mobasher> Aemaeth=>> yea i'm trying to play with compiz now..lol
[19:19] <erUSUL> ganeshran: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[19:19] <erUSUL> ganeshran: when finished reboot
[19:19] <WXZ> erUSUL: those links don't tell you where cronjobs are kept, they say "from the home directory"
[19:20] <WXZ> but don't actually specify which *part* of the home directory
[19:20] <ssn> hi guys
[19:20] <devildante> hey everyone
[19:20] <Aemaeth> mobasher, good, there are some great window navigating setups you can make, i have mine set so when i left click the top of my screen, the desktop sphere comes up, if i right click it shows me all my workspaces in expo
[19:20] <ganeshran> thanks . I will note it down this time. My Ubuntu installation got corrupted and I am installing everything again :(
[19:20] <dreamtheater> Is there a central config tool in ubuntu?
[19:20] <ganeshran> erUSUL: it says couldnt find package
[19:20] <ssn> is there a good howto on getting openvpn working on the command line (client side)
[19:21] <WXZ> dreamtheater: what do you mean?
[19:21] <Aemaeth> mobasher, also, i have "Shift Switcher" set so if i left click on the taskbar, it will cycle through programs on that workspace, right clicking is for ALL programs
[19:21] <devildante> my broadcom card doesn't work OOTB. I think it's because the proprietary drivers are not installed by default. Any tips?
[19:21] <ubuntulinux> installed lazarus and customized it for gtk2-beta instead of the existing gtk1. downloaded and overwrote the gtk2forpascal and gtkpas in the fpcsrc;
[19:21] <dreamtheater> WXZ: Some (graphical) tool to configure network, sound, printer, users etc.
[19:21] <WXZ> system > preferences
[19:21] <erUSUL> ganeshran: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[19:22] <ganeshran> devildante: whats your card number,  use lspsci to find out
[19:22] <WXZ> dreamtheater: System > Preferences
[19:23] <dreamtheater> WXZ: I don't have ubuntu installed, I'm just thinking about switching (from openSUSE, which has yast a central tool which does all this stuff).
[19:23] <WXZ> it's not a "central tool"
[19:23] <of2vil> hello, i have installed ubuntu 10.10 and it detects my rt2870 usb stick and it works fine besides that it is always asking for my wpa passphrase and cant connect to my router? any ideas?
[19:23] <WXZ> it's a set of graphical user interfaces
[19:23] <WXZ> there's one for your network connections, one for your sound
[19:23] <dreamtheater> Ok, so it's several utilities.
[19:23] <devildante> ganeshran: I'm on OSX right now, sorry :( I'm on a MacBookPro7,1, btw
[19:23] <ubuntulinux> installed lazarus and customized it for gtk2-beta instead of the existing gtk1. downloaded and overwrote the gtk2forpascal, gtkpas and wxfp in the fpcsrc's packages; can now use gtk2forpascal; wxfp depends on both gtk2 and gtk1 and thus cannot be used;
[19:24] <dreamtheater> Reachable from the menu.
[19:24] <WXZ> yes dreamth
[19:24] <dreamtheater> I see.
[19:24] <WXZ> that would be very cluttered if it was all in one GUI :s
[19:24] <devildante> ganeshran: I just want to see if I have to download anything like a package, then reboot and see if it works`
[19:24] <ganeshran> erUSUL: It again says not found. do i need to add any alternate sources?
[19:24] <ganeshran> devildante: i am also trying to solve the same problem. i have bcm4312
[19:24] <devildante> ah
[19:25] <dreamtheater> Ah, well in opensuse, it's just one central place which opens several submodules.
[19:25] <erUSUL> ganeshran: multiverse?
[19:25] <noob-tux--> just a piece of advise..... if u're fanatic of using docks.....don't over-do the docks...cause it makes ur system slow... search conky..it's fun
[19:25] <dreamtheater> Kind of lika a dedicated menu.
[19:25] <erUSUL> ganeshran: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=b43&searchon=names&suite=maverick&section=all
[19:25] <ganeshran> erUSUL: I did get you
[19:25] <ganeshran> erusul told me b43-fwcutter
[19:25] <ganeshran> i am on ubuntu 10.04. and its an old install
[19:25] <noob-tux--> ganeshran: i got the same driver! it's not yet supported! :) u can't do anything
[19:25] <ubuntulinux> i've got no replies for my queries
[19:26] <erUSUL> ganeshran: then b43-fwcutter should be aviable
[19:26] <devildante> erUSUL: tried to install b42-fwcutter from CD, but didn't work :(
[19:26] <ganeshran> erUSUL: It says package not found :(
[19:26] <ganeshran> erUSUL: i will try again.
[19:26] <erUSUL> devildante: b43 not b42
[19:26] <noob-tux--> ganeshran: if u got 10.04...u can download windows manager drirver
[19:26] <devildante> erUSUL: yes, typo, sorry
[19:27] <noob-tux--> if u want ur wireless to work only
[19:27] <devildante> erUSUL: so I installed b43-fwcutter, but it doesn't do anything :(
[19:27] <erUSUL> devildante: for it to work you have to be connected to internet by wired or any other mean
[19:27] <FrankFurter> hello, is there any reason to fresh install the released version if I have the release candidate?
[19:27] <noob-tux--> ganeshran: if u're using it for airodump-ng thingy....sorry to tell u it's not yet supported!
[19:28] <erUSUL> !final | FrankFurter
[19:28] <devildante> erUSUL: to install the package or to let the program do its job?
[19:28] <ganeshran> noob-tux--: not sure what that is.
[19:28] <FrankFurter> erUSUL: thanks
[19:28] <erUSUL> devildante: to let the program do its job during install
[19:28] <ganeshran> noob-tux--: my wireless was working but during the upgrade ubuntu got corrupted and i am reinstalling it
[19:28] <devildante> erUSUL: ah.. thanks :)
[19:29] <devildante> brb rebooting now
[19:29] <ganeshran> someone on chat told me the name of the driver last time
[19:29] <Lichte> I just tried the 'update-manager -d' option and the release notes say this is the RC.........is that just an error ??
[19:29] <noob-tux--> ganeshran: windows wireless driver try for ur broadcom 4312
[19:29] <Sickler> switching to xfce but i want to use the some of the gnome applets and i do have "xfapplet" to be able to do this, but can someone point me to the gnome lib or package that has these applets for the panel
[19:30] <noob-tux--> brb...toilet mode
[19:30] <mobasher> Aemaeth=>> doesn't seem like the appearnce issue ..seems like the mouse issue...still can't scroll thru the workspaces
[19:31] <amrykid> hi all, ubuntu detected my wireless card on the livecd, but now after i installed it, it does not detect it anymore
[19:31] <nsahoo> hi guys. trying to upgrade grub to grub-pc. however, I don't think it upgraded correctly. there is no grub.cfg directory
[19:31] <nsahoo> any help?>
[19:31] <Aemaeth> mobasher, sometimes you have to settle for "mouse wheel in this Area of the screen" in the settings, like bottom of the screen, so other programs don't think you're talking to it
[19:32] <mobasher> Aemaeth=>> i can scroll in chrome browser and all..but just not at workspace..so just confuesed
[19:33] <pelmen> guys, stupid question, how do i do dist-upgrade over ssh ?
[19:33] <Aemaeth> mobasher, right, so consider making it like, ctrl+scroll maybe?
[19:33] <ganeshran> ok i installed it from the website and its getting installed
[19:33] <nsahoo> any thoughts on grub2
[19:33] <nsahoo> ?
[19:33] <Aemaeth> pelmen, like to a server?
[19:33] <ganeshran> i dont know why but the terminal isnt able to find any packages at all :?
[19:33] <pelmen> yep
[19:33] <pelmen> well it's more a htpc
[19:33] <pelmen> i mean media server
[19:33] <Aemaeth> pelmen, i think it's sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:33] <SuperLag> How do you move the panel with the divider on it? it's the one the networking panel on it. I know *how* to move panels... but I can't find the right spot to click on that one, and it's driving me CRAZY
[19:33] <pelmen> Aemaeth: keeps telling me 0 packages
[19:34] <Zliq_mishokk> Hey, Guys do you know who's the official irc channel of wikipedia?
[19:34] <sebsebseb> Zliq_mishokk: #wikipedia ?
[19:34] <Sickler> switching to xfce but i want to use the some of the gnome applets and i do have "xfapplet" to be able to do this, but can someone point me to the gnome lib or package that has these applets for the panel
[19:35] <Zliq_mishokk> thanks
[19:35] <Kurdistan> what is the name of defualt screenshot apps in ubuntu?
[19:36] <trism> Kurdistan: gnome-screenshot
[19:36] <Monotoko> thought they were adding the "new special feature" to the right of the top bars this time around?
[19:36] <Kurdistan> trism thx
[19:36] <bloodsurer> heyho
[19:37] <owen1> is xubuntu 10.10 available?
[19:37] <uLinux> hello
[19:37] <detrix> Hi I just installed the server edition of ubuntu, I now need to set up the interface eth0.  need some guidance here.
[19:37] <sebsebseb> !isitout | owen1
[19:37] <Aemaeth> is xubuntu even like...associated with ubuntu anymore?
[19:37] <sebsebseb> detrix: #ubuntu-server
[19:37] <magnetron> !xubuntu | Aemaeth
[19:38] <nsahoo> how do I configure grub-pc
[19:38] <nsahoo> ?
[19:38]  * Monotoko can't join #ubuntu+1 anymore :(
[19:38] <detrix> sebsebseb, oh. ok.
[19:38] <dku> Gwibber is COMPLETELY not working for me. Twitter or Facebook. It's just bad...
[19:38] <magnetron> Monotoko: banned?
[19:38] <sebsebseb> Monotoko: yep
[19:38] <uLinux> right now im using wireless and have one ethernet connection 2 other pc via lan... but i can't configure the ip for this connection. solution?
[19:38] <bloodsurer> i've got a problem with my webcam and flash which requires cam access. with cheese my cam works fine, but the flash vids simply don't show any image. any idea's what to do? (ubuntu 10.10 and logitech quickcam)
[19:38] <sebsebseb> Monotoko: invite only for now
[19:38] <owen1> where is the xubuntu iso?
[19:38] <Monotoko> sebsebseb, when are they opening up again?
[19:38] <ehsan> hi my friends...
[19:38] <sebsebseb> Monotoko: probably towards the end of this month, since thats when Ubuntu Developer Summit is
[19:38] <owen1> Aemaeth: great question
[19:39] <ZeusCool> anyone has trouble getting ubuntu one and firefox connecting to internet?
[19:39] <owen1> Aemaeth: i don't see a link to xubuntu from ubuntu's site
[19:39] <TSlackM> hi, anybody have some lirc experience?, i have a problem with lirc not creating lirc0, using imon lcd, with lirc 0.8.7pre 3, ubuntu 10.10
[19:39] <Sickler> switching to xfce but i want to use the some of the gnome applets and i do have "xfapplet" to be able to do this, but can someone point me to the gnome lib or package that has these applets for the panel
[19:39] <Monotoko> sebsebseb, ahhh fair do's
[19:39] <rjg_> i can't seem to change my docky theme - what do I do now?
[19:39] <nsahoo> grub2 is loaded with issues
[19:39] <RRU_Sciguy> uLinux: ive got the same setup, and CANNOT get the lan only comp to connect...wait.....with the 10.10 disk in, it does 0.o upgrading desktop.....
[19:40] <Aemaeth> i use xubuntu on a slower system, but i figured they had thrown it to the wayside a long time ago, the red headed stepchild no one talks about so to speak
[19:40] <Monotoko> nsahoo, its always been loaded with issues...less issues now thankfully
[19:40] <infid> how do i give a user sudo permission?
[19:40] <Monotoko> infid, add them to the admin group
[19:40] <nsahoo> Monotoko: is there a way to configure it?
[19:40] <sebsebseb> infid: system > adminisration > users and groups or whatever it is
[19:40] <sebsebseb> infid: and set it up in there
[19:40] <owen1> Aemaeth: maybe xubuntu is replaced with the netbook edition?
[19:41] <sebsebseb> infid: give it admin rights
[19:41] <Monotoko> nsahoo, to do what?
[19:41] <sebsebseb> infid: acstaully I think you can right click on the name on the top right, if you got that, and access users and groups
[19:41] <RRU_Sciguy> owen1: doubt it
[19:41] <Aemaeth> not quite the same owen1, i was thinking maybe server, just with "text" in the grub
[19:41] <uLinux> so is it possible to connect 2 pcs via lan, whem im using wireless internet?
[19:41] <owen1> RRU_Sciguy: is the netbook closer to ubuntu or xubuntu in terms of speed?
[19:42] <bulletxt> hi, what's the kernel image - virtual meant for? thanks
[19:42] <Aemaeth> actually to be fair i don't know what the netbook version is like, but i thought it used gnome, and the xfce is pretty slick
[19:42] <Xeno__> # Select the partition you want to resize and press Enter.
[19:42] <RRU_Sciguy> owen1: it's really just a difference in GUI
[19:42] <_raven> how to unpack iso images by command line?
[19:42] <Xeno__> # Select "Size:", press Enter.
[19:42] <Xeno__> # Select Yes, press Enter.
[19:42] <owen1> Aemaeth: i would get the server as well and add xfce or awesome on top of it. i am just scared i will have issues with detecting my hardware.
[19:42] <erUSUL> bulletxt: to run in a virtual machine?
[19:42] <Xeno__> # Type in a new size in Gigabytes for your partition, it's recommended you free up AT LEAST 10 GB of free space for your Ubuntu install. Press Enter when happy with your changes. It may take some time to apply the changes.
[19:42] <FloodBot1> Xeno__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:42] <RRU_Sciguy> here's the link to xubuntu: http://www.xubuntu.org/
[19:42] <Xeno__> Sorry bout that
[19:42] <Gandalf84> hi
[19:42] <Sickler> switching to xfce but i want to use the some of the gnome applets and i do have "xfapplet" to be able to do this, but can someone point me to the gnome lib or package that has these applets for the panel
[19:42] <nsahoo> Monotoko: umm .. to work, I just upgraded from grub to grub2, but, it's not configured. I am afraid it'll not reboot
[19:42] <Monotoko> Aemaeth, I was using the netbook version during beta...its just ubuntu with a dock
[19:42] <Xeno__> Anyways, i can set it to only use 10 gigs?
[19:42] <Gandalf84> how can i boot from a USB using grub command line installed on my hd?
[19:43] <infid> thanks sebsebseb
[19:43] <crimsonmane> hey i forgot how to see what driver a usb device is using. just need to make sure to use caps or lowercase when i go to blacklist it.
[19:43] <owen1> Aemaeth: maybe server+xfce can be good
[19:43] <sebsebseb> infid: ok your welcome
[19:43] <infid> how come visudo loads some editor that is not vi or vim? the man page says it uses $VISUAL or $EDITOR but i have nothin for $VISUAL and $EDITOR is vim
[19:43] <Monotoko> nsahoo, grub-mkconfig and then update-grub should sort it?
[19:43] <bulletxt> erUSUL: would I have any advantages using that kernel over a server kernel inside my linux guest (using virtual box) ?
[19:43] <Aemaeth> owen1, i have an old TAG server, and even the upgraded kernel of linux doesn't seem to want to run :( i did a dist-upgrade just for .25 and all hell broke lose somewhere between that and grub2
[19:43] <_raven> how to unpack iso images by command line?
[19:43] <crimsonmane> hey i forgot how to see what driver a usb device is using. just need to make sure to use caps or lowercase when i go to blacklist it.
[19:44] <TSlackM> hi, anybody have some lirc experience?, i have a problem with lirc not creating lirc0, using imon lcd, with lirc 0.8.7pre 3
[19:44] <owen1> Aemaeth: what's TAG
[19:44] <infid> _rav iso isn't an archive, it's a filesystem, thus you can mount it
[19:44] <erUSUL> bulletxt: do not think so; i tihnk is for things like cloud server  ( amazon EC2 )
[19:44] <bulletxt> erUSUL: ok, thanks
[19:44] <crimsonmane> i forgot how to see what driver a usb device is using. just need to make sure to use caps or lowercase when i go to blacklist it.
[19:44] <SlipperyJim> irc.esper.net
[19:44] <Aemaeth> owen1, old rack mounted server, it's thin vertically but long and wide
[19:45] <infid> 'thin vertically'?
[19:45] <Guest13733> hi, how can i put the sound icon in the header barre? because i remove it :/
[19:45] <Xeno__> So i can set Ubuntu to use 10gigs?
[19:45] <nsahoo> Monotoko:  grub-mkconfig  is saying /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: not a directory.
[19:45] <infid> Aemaeth: i think the word you're looking for is 'short'
[19:45] <trism> Guest13733: it is part of indicator applet, so add that back to your panel (make sure indicator-sound is installed if that doesn't work)
[19:45] <Guest13733> removed*
[19:45] <Zliq_mishokk> what is ubuntu?
[19:46] <erUSUL> !ubuntu > Zliq_mishokk
[19:46] <Monotoko> nsahoo, cd to /usr/sbin and see if there is any file there called grub-probe
[19:46] <infid> Zliq_mishokk: a mac and windows killer
[19:46] <Guest13733> ok i test
[19:46] <crimsonmane> i forgot how to see what driver a usb device is using. just need to make sure to use caps or lowercase when i go to blacklist it.
[19:46] <Aemaeth> hah
[19:46] <Xeno__> Type in a new size in Gigabytes for your partition, it's recommended you free up AT LEAST 10 GB of free space for your Ubuntu install. Press Enter when happy with your changes. It may take some time to apply the changes.
[19:46] <deac0n> anything I need to do if I have been running 10.10 beta to release other than just normal updates as they come?
[19:46] <Xeno__> So i can set it to 10gigs?
[19:46] <jason__> irc://irc.abjects.net/albums
[19:46] <Zliq_mishokk> So It's OS ubuttu
[19:47] <nsahoo> Monotoko: grub-probe exists, is there a parameter to be passed to grub-mkconfig?
[19:47] <Guest13733> thank you trism!!
[19:47] <IdleOne> need some help here, getting error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/universe/source/Sources.bz2   How do I fix this?
[19:47] <IdleOne> oops
[19:47] <Sickler> switching to xfce but i want to use the some of the gnome applets and i do have "xfapplet" to be able to do this, but can someone point me to the gnome lib or package that has these applets for the panel
[19:47] <uLinux> How can I connect 2 PCs via LAN and use Wireless internet at same time?
[19:47] <uLinux> help
[19:47] <Aemaeth> can't find a pic with one as old as mine :(
[19:47] <mikeru> hey
[19:47] <mikeru> transmission isn't getting ports with UPnP
[19:47] <Omen_20> GRUB2 is easily the weak link in Ubuntu. I'm so tired of dealing with it.
[19:48] <IdleOne> need some help, getting an error: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-proposed Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5   how do I get around this?
[19:48] <BlueMatt> that is rediculously hard
[19:48] <war59312> oh my my upgrade to 10.10 form 10.04 is going crazy at 23 min. mark..
[19:48] <mikeru> I'm using DD-WRT, and the UPnP section doesn't show it
[19:48] <IdleOne> sorry about the repeat
[19:48] <i00nsu> hi all
[19:48] <andycc> Hey guys, how exactly do I "upgrade" from Maverick RC to final? Because I haven't gotten *any* updates since installing the RC yesterday.
[19:48] <riktking> im thinking of upgrading my server from 10.04 to 10.10, have several packages installed that i want to keep the config off, will it f**K it up?
[19:48] <war59312> Screen flashing like crazy for last few minutes.
[19:48] <owen1> is there i link from ubuntu to xubuntu 10.10? is xubuntu and ubuntu no longer friends?
[19:48] <mikeru> however, Spotify does get ports opened running under Wine
[19:48] <IdleOne> !language | riktking
[19:48] <Monotoko> nsahoo, no it should be fine..hmmm
[19:48] <mikeru> makes no sense that wine apps do get UPnP but native ones don't
[19:48] <mikeru> HALP PLZ
[19:48] <i00nsu> how do I can use wireshark with my default user'
[19:48] <i00nsu> ?
[19:49] <war59312> anyone having my issue? screen flashing like crazy at 23 min mark
[19:49] <ddilinger> is there anyway to get the Empathy chat client to login to skype?
[19:49] <Aemaeth> riktking, i would backup configs and plan on having to USE those backups
[19:49] <mikeru> i100nsu, I think you have to be root
[19:49] <ChogyDan> ddilinger: not really
[19:49] <jvm_> hi. after update to ubuntu 10.04: when trying to activate fxlrx driver in the "hardware drivers" window i get "SystemError: installArchives() failed". any idea?
[19:49] <war59312> "removing update-grub hooks..."
[19:49] <Aemaeth> war59312, didn't happen for me, god help you
[19:49] <war59312> its crazy
[19:49] <i00nsu> hmm
[19:49] <war59312> there is some window in the background but i can not get to it
[19:49] <HomerPDX75> So is there a way to see all the Ubuntu One shared folders?
[19:49] <Gnea> !caps | mikeru
[19:49] <war59312> time is still counting just fine
[19:49] <Omen_20> Anyone else get the grub_xputs not found error after installing?
[19:49] <ChogyDan> !final | andycc
[19:49] <riktking> Aemaeth, i have my /home on a separate partition will my configs stay?
[19:49] <ddilinger> ChogyDan: :(  i was hoping because skype blog posted almost a year ago they were working on an open source client,  guess it never made it out into the wild
[19:49] <i00nsu> ok thanks
[19:49] <war59312> i ment the clock is still going no the time on the installer
[19:49] <phirestalker> I am wanting to upgrade to the new maverick, but I had to install nvidia driver 256 from their site since there were issues with all available ones in lucid. Now through a search I found that 256 was accepted yet a search on packages.ubuntu.com under maverick doesn't show it, so is it there or not?
[19:50] <nsahoo> I really really don't want to reinstall over grub2
[19:50] <_raven> any linux bootup cd which provides distri selection and install from the internet?
[19:50] <uLinux> what type of IP is 10.42.43.1?
[19:50] <war59312> this is really nuts
[19:50] <Gnea> !info mediatomb
[19:50] <ChogyDan> phirestalker: try nvidia-current
[19:50] <rooks> how to revert to Radiance theme from 10.04? (im on 10.10)
[19:50] <dRuMz>  /ns identify amaler
[19:50] <mikeru> Gnea, really? I can't believe it, I bet no-one can read lowercase here...
[19:50] <ddilinger> uLinux: 10.x.x.x is a private ip range
[19:50] <phirestalker> chog
[19:50] <ddilinger> uLinux: like 192.168.x.x
[19:50] <RRU_Sciguy> rooks: theme manager most likely
[19:50] <alpharesearch> since my upgrade to 10.10 RC my grub timeout is not working anymore, to continue to boot I have to press enter... any ideas?
[19:50] <war59312> i can even move the mouse and click on icons
[19:50] <Sickler> switching to xfce but i want to use the some of the gnome applets and i do have "xfapplet" to be able to do this, but can someone point me to the gnome lib or package that has these applets for the panel
[19:50] <war59312> but cant get to the backgrond window
[19:50] <andycc> ChogyDan, thanks, I apparently have been keeping it up to date. Somehow.
[19:51] <Monotoko> nsahoo, seems you do not have the grub-probe program...you sure you installed grub2 properly?
[19:51] <owen1> is there i link from ubuntu to xubuntu 10.10? is xubuntu and ubuntu no longer friends?
[19:51] <iBeef> whats the command for ubuntu upgrade?
[19:51] <mikeru> so
[19:51] <uLinux> ddilinger: so i can use it to connect to another pc via lan?
[19:51] <phirestalker> ChogyDan, that always used to link to a package with the version number in it, has that changed?
[19:51] <Aemaeth> riktking, hah, idk, should ask generally, i've done upgrades in the past and had it uninstall software i really needed, so who knows what kind of wacky things it can do, best bet is if you have sensitive data and you don't have to backup, maybe you shouldn't, at least not without precautions
[19:51] <mikeru> anyone willing to help fix my UPnP
[19:51] <mikeru> ?
[19:51] <andycc> owen1, Xubuntu 10.10 isn't out yet.
[19:51] <BSS> hi guys  i have a problem with xserver and a intel card  after new install maverick graphic don't work with intel driver   but the live cd of 10.10 and the installed version 10.04 works fine anyone can help me with my problem?
[19:51] <ddilinger> uLinux: that adress will only be visible from the lan
[19:51] <owen1> andycc: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.10/release/
[19:51] <Gnea> !ask | mikeru
[19:51] <infid> how come visudo loads some editor that is not vi or vim? the man page says it uses $VISUAL or $EDITOR but i have nothin for $VISUAL and $EDITOR is vim
[19:51] <mikeru> Gnea, did I say "Can I ask a question?" no.
[19:51] <uLinux> ddilinger: yes i know. but im trying to connect with another pc
[19:51] <ChogyDan> phirestalker: dont know, for me it is 160.19.06
[19:51] <iBeef> Whats the command to upgrade Ubuntu from Terminal ?
[19:51] <riktking> Aemaeth, it wont remove anything from my /home willit?
[19:51] <WXZ> I split a file into 3 parts
[19:51] <swiss-chris> Hello everyone. I would like to add a fat32 partition to an external hard drive with currently only one single ntfs partition (and data) on it. Is there any way I can add a partition without reformatting the disk and loosing all my data?
[19:51] <WXZ> anyway to unsplit it?
[19:52] <ChogyDan> phirestalker: *260
[19:52] <nsahoo> Monotoko: grub-probe is there, i installed the grub2 from the package manager
[19:52] <andycc> owen1, I think that's the RC.
[19:52] <tonyyarusso> !upgrade | iBeef
[19:52] <alpharesearch> just to make sure my grub2 settings are good I did a purge and reinstall of all grub components, any idea why the timeout is not working anymore?
[19:52] <nsahoo> Monotoko: it gave some error saying can't configure
[19:52] <war59312> anyone help me? scared to reboot in middle of install
[19:52] <Gnea> mikeru: you asked if anyone was willing. we're volunteers here, so just ask the question and state the problem, please don't be annoying.
[19:52] <ddilinger> uLinux: they will be able to connect using 10.x.x.x ip's if they are configured properly and are on the same lan(not over the internet)
[19:52] <phirestalker> ChogyDan, oh ic the version says 260.19.06 so it should be fine
[19:52] <Monotoko> nsahoo, what error did it give you??
[19:52] <mikeru> Gnea, hmmm...
[19:52] <uLinux> ddilinger: i dont the gateway of this pc
[19:52] <uLinux> know
[19:52] <tonyyarusso> swiss-chris: gparted will let you resize the existing ones and add a partition pretty easily.
[19:52] <Gnea> !attitude
[19:52] <war59312> stuck on configuring libfreetype6 and install window is flashing like crazy
[19:52] <mikeru> Gnea, I've already stated the problem
[19:52] <mikeru> :(
[19:53] <Gnea> mikeru: I don't have the time to scrollback to get the details, please re-state.
[19:53] <rypervenche> I followed the instructions for upgrading to Maverick, but when I click on "Upgrade" in the update manager, it says "= Welcome to the Ubuntu 'Maverick Meerkat' development release =" Is that normal?
[19:53] <crimsonmane> i forgot how to see what driver a usb device is using. just need to make sure to use caps or lowercase when i go to blacklist it.
[19:53] <phirestalker> if I do have the driver from the nvidia site installed and want to upgrade to maverick and switch back to nvidia-current what is the best procedure?
[19:53] <alpharesearch> any grub guru around?
[19:53] <iBeef> it says there are no updates?
[19:53] <RRU_Sciguy> war59312: does it matter if any data is lost?
[19:53] <mikeru> ok
[19:53] <Gnea> alpharesearch: grub1 or grub2?
[19:53] <war59312> @RRU yes!
[19:53] <mikeru> hey
[19:53] <mikeru> transmission isn't getting ports with UPnP
[19:53] <alpharesearch> Gnea: grub2
[19:53] <mikeru> I'm using DD-WRT, and the UPnP section doesn't show it
[19:53] <ChogyDan> phirestalker: I think you should remove the nvidia site one, fall back to the opensource driver
[19:53] <mikeru> however, Spotify does get ports opened running under Wine
[19:53] <Gnea> !grub2 | alpharesearch
[19:53] <war59312> @RRU i did a partial backup
[19:53] <mikeru> however, Spotify does get ports opened running under Wine
[19:54] <mikeru> makes no sense that wine apps do get UPnP but native ones don't
[19:54] <Kurdistan> guys I have problem making bootable usb
[19:54] <Kurdistan> I use ubuntu 10.10
[19:54] <RRU_Sciguy> war59312: did you backup ALL the data you want/need to save?
[19:54] <mikeru> can somebody help me with that?
[19:54] <Gnea> mikeru: transmission isn't designed to work directly with upnp
[19:54] <phirestalker> ChogyDan, k thx
[19:54] <mikeru> Gnea, it does have UPnP
[19:54] <iBeef> how do i figure out which version of ubuntu i have?
[19:54] <Mathuin> !ssd
[19:55] <war59312> @RRU Most of it yes, but not everything. Did not have enough space to back up everything.. Really dont want to start all over if possiable. But yes basic OS backed up..
[19:55] <andycc> iBeef, "lsb_release -r" in the terminal
[19:55] <mikeru> Gnea, Transmission -> Preferences -> Network -> Use UPnP or NAT-PMP port forwarding from my router
[19:55] <Aemaeth> Kurdistan, where are you running into trouble?
[19:55] <Sickler> switching to xfce but i want to use the some of the gnome applets and i do have "xfapplet" to be able to do this, but can someone point me to the gnome lib or package that has these applets for the panel
[19:55] <iBeef> oh, i alrady have 10.10
[19:55] <Gnea> mikeru: it probably doesn't work the same
[19:55] <nsahoo> Monotoko: don't remember now. when I try aptitude install grub-pc, now, it gives this error
[19:55] <Aemaeth> iBeef, show-off
[19:55] <Kurdistan> Aemaeth it say can not fined linux kernel
[19:55] <iBeef> :p
[19:55] <nsahoo> http://pastebin.com/5wUfieeE
[19:55] <mikeru> Gnea, thing is it used to work before
[19:55] <iBeef> I'm not showing off.
[19:55] <swiss-chris> tonyyarusso: thank you for your answer. I tried gparted but most options are gray (deactivated) including the option to "resize/move". Any idea what I need to do to be able to resize? All I can do is "create partition table"...
[19:55] <mikeru> like some months ago
[19:55] <nsahoo> Monotoko: don't remember now. when I try aptitude install grub-pc, now, it gives this error http://pastebin.com/5wUfieeE
[19:55] <JoeDye> I am getting this error:"no root file system is defined" when I am trying to install 10.10 64bit. I have two partition(one 40GB, the other 250GB) I am trying to install on the first. What do I do?
[19:55] <andycc> Sickler, GNOME applets != tray icons
[19:55] <mikeru> and works on mac
[19:56] <tonyyarusso> Sickler: gnome-applets
[19:56] <Aemaeth> Kurdistan, when booting from the stick?
[19:56] <iBeef> How is showing off say: oh i already have it
[19:56] <Gnea> mikeru: at any rate, are you trying to share files from transmission via upnp on your lan?
[19:56] <Kurdistan> yes
[19:56] <war59312> @RRU I jst hope this it not going to kill my screen flashing like it is. Flashing at least 4 tims a second.
[19:56] <iBeef> ..
[19:56] <crimsonmane> i forgot how to see what driver a usb device is using. just need to make sure to use caps or lowercase when i go to blacklist it.
[19:56] <tonyyarusso> swiss-chris: perhaps you need to unmount some partitions first?
[19:56] <Sickler> ty
[19:56] <Aemaeth> iBeef, i'm joking, and cause i have 2 hours left on my upgrade
[19:56] <iBeef> I need problem with lsh-server error, i get it when i try to sudo things.
[19:56] <Mathuin> What file system type is recommended for SSDs?  Some stuff I'm seeing says "use ext2 to avoid journaling's extra writes" and some stuff I'm seeing says "use ext4 and get over the short lifespan".  Which way do I jump?  Also, swap or no?
[19:56] <mikeru> Gnea, no, I'm trying to get more peers
[19:56] <Kurdistan> the problem exist in ubuntu 10.10. when I used ubuntu 10.04 and made bootable usb with maverick it worked
[19:57] <Gnea> mikeru: then perhaps you ought to ask the transmission developers, as that's a bit more focused than what #ubuntu is designed for
[19:57] <rypervenche> When I try to upgrade to Maverick, using "update-manager -d" it says that it's the release candidate...is that normal?
[19:57] <mikeru> Gnea, #channel?
[19:57] <alpharesearch> ubottu: I did look at this page and GRUB_TIMEOUT is set to 1 a positive integer, but it is not working
[19:57] <ChogyDan> mikeru: you could also try deluge
[19:57] <Kurdistan> now I want to try lubuntu 10.10 made usb with unetbootin
[19:57] <Monotoko> nsahoo, try apt-get remove --purge grub2
[19:57] <Monotoko> then reinstall
[19:57] <Ejdesgaard> after the last updates today in 10.10, i have lost the sound...
[19:57] <amrykid> hi all, ubuntu detected my wireless card on the livecd, but now after i installed it, it does not detect it anymore
[19:57] <Gnea> mikeru: don't know, #transmission perhaps?
[19:57] <tonyyarusso> rypervenche: perhaps your mirror hasn't updated yet
[19:57] <mikeru> Gnea, yes
[19:57] <ChogyDan> rypervenche: now that it is released, it is -c not -d.  Dont worry, you are fine though
[19:57] <mikeru> Gnea, thanks
[19:57] <RRU_Sciguy> war59312: can't really help with that.....  but if it comes to the worst possible situation, then you can reboot and start over, may lose info though :(
[19:57] <Ejdesgaard> under sound preferences, it only shows "Dummy Output"
[19:57]  * war59312 is going to have a seasure now from crazy flashing screen four times per second
[19:57] <techbreak> cannot update my update-manager.. anybody help.. it shows check internet connection.. but the connection is fine
[19:57] <Gnea> mikeru: good luck
[19:57] <crimsonmane> GUYS i know you know the answer to this, i forgot the command to see what drivers are currently loaded.
[19:57] <Mathuin> ext2 or ext4?  Just tell me and I'll finish the install. :-)
[19:57] <rypervenche> tonyyarusso, Ah thanks. I'll change it.
[19:57] <mikeru> I will need it :(
[19:58] <alpharesearch> gnea: I did look at this page and GRUB_TIMEOUT is set to 1 a positive integer, but it is not working
[19:58] <andycc> Mathuin, how big is your SSD?
[19:58] <techbreak> MatBoy, ext4
[19:58] <ddilinger> I have 2 ubuntu systems that i will be updating to 10.10, one has 2TB hd and one has only 40G SSD, i would like to have the machine with 40G ssd first check the machine with the big HD to see if packages have been downloaded before downloading again.  I dont yet have file sharing enabled but could setup samba or nfs to mount the fs
[19:58] <swiss-chris> tonyyarusso: thanks. I unmounted the ext. drive, refreshed devices in gparted, but still can't resize.
[19:58] <war59312> @RRU Yeah I figured.. just really odd.. I have ugpraded 200 times and never have crazy flashing screen with nvidia hardware..
[19:58] <sdschulze> techbreak: How are you updating it?
[19:58] <tonyyarusso> crimsonmane: lsmod
[19:58] <crimsonmane> ty tonyyarusso
[19:58] <techbreak> sdschulze, administration>update manager
[19:58] <ChogyDan> ddilinger: the easiest way is to upgrade off the alternate cd
[19:58] <RRU_Sciguy> war59312: very weird.......
[19:58] <mohraibat> hi i burned the 10.10 image but when i boot the disk it gets stuck on the splash screen
[19:59] <swiss-chris> tonyyarusso: I don't know much about partition tables, but does the fact that I can choose to "create partition table..." mean there may not be a partition table currently on the disk?
[19:59] <Mathuin> andycc: 8.1G for the root drive.
[19:59] <WXZ> ubuntu won't let me cd into my external harddrive :(
[19:59] <BlueMatt> does anyone know of a way to identify what mod/portion of the kernel is using a the most cpu time?
[19:59] <mohraibat> when i press escape i get a msg sayin error in /dev/sdr
[19:59] <war59312> @RRU Yes very... I dont think i will be able to boot in a second though at all since it seems it has romved grub compleltly at this point
[19:59] <WXZ> I can see it's location under dir :9
[19:59] <sdschulze> techbreak: 10.10?
[19:59] <Mathuin> techbreak: thank you. :-)  I figure i have room so I'll add in a swap partition and just disable it at first.
[19:59] <tonyyarusso> swiss-chris: If you have existing partitions on there with data there must be...
[19:59] <techbreak> sdschulze, yeah
[19:59] <andycc> Mathuin, I'd say go with ext4. There have been some studies showing that it won't considerably shorten your SSD's lifespan.
[19:59] <alpharesearch> any non bot grub2 experts around, GRUB_TIMEOUT=1, but it never starts until I press enter?
[19:59] <war59312> @RRU Well, thanks anyhow...
[19:59] <sdschulze> techbreak: I had such an issue, too.  I upgraded using aptitude.
[19:59] <techbreak> MatBoy, thats fine :)
[19:59] <swiss-chris> tonyyarusso: I presume the disk came with the one ntfs partition already formatted on there.
[20:00] <rjg_> i can't seem to change my docky theme - what do I do now?
[20:00] <andycc> Mathuin, there should be some tips for SSDs on the DebianEeePC page (google for it).
[20:00] <Aemaeth> rjg_, have you tried awn?
[20:00] <ChogyDan> alpharesearch: have you tried other timeouts?
[20:00] <crimsonmane> tonyyarusso: lsmod didnt give what i'm looking for. my WUSB600N is using RT2800 driver, i'm about to blacklist that driver but i cant remember if that driver is caps or not, and i know linux is very specific.
[20:00] <Gnea> alpharesearch: did you make sure to comment out GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT?
[20:00] <swiss-chris> tonyyarusso: is it possible that gparted can't resize a ntfs partition?
[20:00] <techbreak> sdschulze, and why does it ask ubuntu 10.04 cd while upgrade??
[20:00] <Mathuin> andycc: the pages I had seen (possibly not that one) were at least a year out of date.  I'll look for taht specific one.
[20:00] <RRU_Sciguy> war59312: Bios handles initial boot. if it doesnt detect bootable partition on HDD, then it will try other disks
[20:00] <war59312> is there a keyboard shortcut to switch to background window wen forground window wont get out of the darn way?
[20:00] <sresu> Yes even I need tips on SSD related EeePC
[20:00] <sdschulze> techbreak: erm, no idea...
[20:00] <alpharesearch> ChogyDan: yes , like 10 the default
[20:00] <tonyyarusso> swiss-chris: I'm pretty sure it can.  Not sure why you're having a problem frankly.
[20:00] <sdschulze> techbreak: malconfigured sources?
[20:00] <andycc> Mathuin, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/TipsAndTricks
[20:01] <alpharesearch> Gnea: yes I did
[20:01] <war59312> @RRU I will just boot up with recovery disk and reinstall grub if needed.. going to see if i can get darn bakground window to show itself before I give rebooting a shot..
[20:01] <techbreak> sdschulze, i dont have any idea
[20:01] <nsahoo> Monotoko: ok, then reinstalling. on quick question on configuration, /dev/sda has sda2 as the root filesystem. should i install grub on sda or sda1?
[20:01] <erUSUL> swiss-chris: do you have ntfsprogs installed?
[20:01] <Gnea> alpharesearch: odd...so what sort of behavior is it exhibiting now?
[20:01] <nsahoo> Monotoko: ok, then reinstalling. on quick question on configuration, /dev/sda has sda2 as the root filesystem. should i install grub on sda or sda2?
[20:01] <nsahoo> sorry typo
[20:01] <ChogyDan> alpharesearch: did you run update-grub after making the changes?
[20:01] <tonyyarusso> swiss-chris: oh yeaaaaah.  Listen to erUSUL :P
[20:01] <alpharesearch> Gnea: I tried GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true/false and commented out
[20:01] <sdschulze> techbreak: So try upgrading it out of another package manager, such as synaptic or aptitude.
[20:01] <techbreak> sdschulze, W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 10.04 LTS _Lucid Lynx_ - Release i386 (20100429)/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[20:01] <techbreak> , W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 10.04 LTS _Lucid Lynx_ - Release i386 (20100429)/dists/lucid/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[20:01] <techbreak> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:01] <Aemaeth> tonyyarusso, last i heard ntfs was resizable, maybe he has partitions in the way
[20:01] <FloodBot1> techbreak: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:01] <war59312> @RRU I really think if I can get to background window I can get it to recover..
[20:01] <Monotoko> nsahoo, sda
[20:01] <swiss-chris> erUSUL: hi. no, not installed. what is it ?
[20:01] <Mathuin> andycc: sweet!  that page was updated in March,a nd some of those tips I'd known about but some of the others are new, excellent.
[20:01] <techbreak> sdschulze, i did same prblem
[20:02] <nsahoo> Monotoko: thanks
[20:02] <alpharesearch> ChogyDan: yes
[20:02] <erUSUL> swiss-chris: the tools gparted needs to handle ntfs partitions
[20:02] <RRU_Sciguy> war59312: yeah, turn off your monitor and check back in a while is what id suggest
[20:02] <andycc> Mathuin, just don't do the /var/* things, I think they break apt
[20:02] <sdschulze> techbreak: It *shouldn't* display that. :/
[20:02] <war59312> @RRU its stuck asking me a question about grub and i cant get to it but i think if I can some how manage to anwser the question the installer would finish
[20:02] <sdschulze> techbreak: did an "aptitude update"?
[20:02] <alpharesearch> ChogyDan: I did a purge and new install as well now it is all default values
[20:02] <Mathuin> andycc: well, those were the things that were new to me.  Darn. :-)
[20:02] <war59312> @RRU It
[20:02] <war59312> @RRU It
[20:02] <war59312> wtf
[20:02] <techbreak> sdschulze, yeah
[20:02] <Gnea> ?!
[20:02] <riktking> http://www.pomegranatephone.com check it out
[20:03] <swiss-chris> erUSUL: hm.. thanks. will install and see if better. thanks a bunch you too. will let you know if it works.
[20:03] <war59312> @RRU It's a laptop with a broken screen so I cant turn it off sadly..
[20:03] <sdschulze> techbreak: Can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list somewhere?
[20:03] <Mathuin> Do people really pick "encrypt your home folder"?
[20:03] <RRU_Sciguy> war59312: heh, I gotta get ready for work, hope you get it fixed
[20:03] <tonyyarusso> Mathuin: absolutely.
[20:03] <sdschulze> techbreak: (This is the low-level way.)
[20:03] <war59312> @RRU Well thanks for the help.. Have a good day!!
[20:03] <lucas-arg> hello, i have a nvidia 320m with lastest nvidia drivers and i dont know why ubuntu 10.10 some times has problems bootin or shuttin down...
[20:03] <andycc> Mathuin, at least not the /var/cache/apt/archives tip. Also check the "linksys on nslu2" link.
[20:03] <techbreak> sdschulze, ok i will wait
[20:03] <nsahoo> Monotoko: similar problem as before! http://pastebin.com/MNLyYdpX
[20:03] <Aemaeth> Mathuin, i did, i'm a paranoid shutin
[20:03] <alpharesearch> Gnea: to me it looks like the changes the grub default files are taken, because if I change the display resolution it works
[20:04] <sdschulze> [Disclaimer: it's probably not the recommended Ubuntu way -- I'm an old Debian guy...]
[20:04] <Gnea> !ot | riktking
[20:04] <Mathuin> tonyyarusso: I use remote backup polling via rsyncd, I don't know if logging in remotely will decrypt the home folder -- also, I don't know how the EeePC 1000 can handle the performance impact.
[20:04] <riktking> sorry Gnea
[20:04] <Mathuin> Aemaeth: nothign wrong with that!
[20:04] <ChogyDan> nsahoo: what hdd do you have?
[20:04] <Mathuin> ... [Errno 5] Input/output error.  From my SD card.  Grrrr.
[20:04] <tonyyarusso> Mathuin: should be fine on both counts
[20:04] <techbreak> sdschulze, http://paste.ubuntu.com/510302/
[20:04] <Ichat> hi anyone can help me settup up   ubuntu-netbook 10.10 in virtualbox...  its says something about unable to load drivers (of some soorts) and i cant  test unity
[20:04] <Gnea> alpharesearch: there's got to be another option that's overriding those..
[20:05] <Aemaeth> yeah, not sure how much you need to encrypt a netbook, you could use truecrypt for the stuff you get put in jail for
[20:05] <sdschulze> techbreak: sources.list, not sources.d
[20:05] <aeon-ltd> Aemaeth: lol
[20:05] <D4CH> Aemaeth: People like to keep their stuff private. Why is that illegal?
[20:05] <tom-> i'm running ubuntu 10.10, and i want to disable wpa_supplicant, in an effort to minimize the number of running unnecessary processes -- is there a way to disable wpa_supplicant without removing network-manager completely?
[20:05] <sdschulze> *sources.list.d
[20:05] <techbreak> sdschulze, oops sorry.. wait
[20:05] <Mathuin> Aemaeth: if you carry around proprietary data, of course it should be encrypted, but I tend to keep that stuff on servers hopefully out of subpoena reach. :-)
[20:05] <Monotoko> nsahoo, rename the grub-probe module, and make a directory called grub-probe and try again
[20:05] <BlueMatt> anyone know how one might go about diagnosing a rediculously high system cpu usage when no processes show up in top as high cpu usage
[20:06] <Aemaeth> D4CH, not always illegal...but then again not all in jail commit crimes
[20:06] <nsahoo> Monotoko: do I have to be in livecd for it to work?
[20:06] <alpharesearch> Gnea: I also looked in the /boot/grub/grub.cfg and it looks like the timeout is there as well
[20:06] <WXZ> how do I back up cronjobs?
[20:06] <Monotoko> nsahoo, nope...just use sudo
[20:06] <Aemaeth> BlueMatt, have you also listed dependencies for those programs in the system monitor?
[20:06] <Gnea> alpharesearch: well where else would it be?
[20:06] <Monotoko> nsahoo, not sure this will work...so just rename the file, dont delete it
[20:07] <Monotoko> nsahoo, im just basing my guesses on the errors here
[20:07] <alpharesearch> Gnea: /etc/default/grub
[20:07] <sdschulze> tom-: If you have swap, it will soon go there if you're running out of memory.
[20:07] <riktking> do people still use the torrents to download ubuntu
[20:07] <Gnea> alpharesearch: ooh.... no, I wouldn't put anything there, just with grub.cfg
[20:07] <mobasher> riktking=>> ofcourse
[20:07] <BlueMatt> Aemaeth: how would i go about doing that?
[20:08] <Mathuin> Are "errno 5" errors while installing from CF cards usually repeatable?
[20:08] <riktking> mobasher, cos my torrent is takingforever
[20:08] <Benwa> hi, i installed apache on a pc. I can see the 'it works !' from the lan but not from the internet. I'm using a dyndns and i'm abble to connect using ssh. I think it comes from my firewall. is this line correct ? -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[20:08] <Gnea> alpharesearch: grub.cfg is *the* file to edit, the default file isn't designed for it
[20:08] <mobasher> riktking=>> yea...well that's a differnt story..but yea it works..->http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[20:08] <theos_> hi all
[20:08] <sdschulze> techbreak: ?
[20:08] <i00nsu> any graphical way to change what services can or not start at boot time? or I must chmod -x service at /etc/init.d?
[20:08] <nsahoo> Monotoko: thinking of reinstalling from the livecd, that might be quicker
[20:08] <tom-> sdschulze : it probably will, but i would still like to stop all unnecessary processes, and i can't really understand why it should have to be so difficult to just disable it
[20:08] <Aemaeth> BlueMatt, System Monitor > Processes > in top left corner : view > All processes AND view > Dependencies (ctrl-d)
[20:09] <war59312> omg i figured it out whooooooooooooo
[20:09] <Mathuin> war59312: share!
[20:09] <alpharesearch> Gnea: it is the opposite
[20:09] <war59312> @RRU i figurded it out
[20:09] <Monotoko> nsahoo, most likely will be if your willing to do it
[20:09] <Aemaeth> BlueMatt, and then from there you SHOULD be able to list it by processor usage
[20:09] <war59312> @Mathuin i was able to change visual effects from non to normal
[20:09] <tonyyarusso> Benwa: This is probably a port forwarding issue with your router, not a firewall issue on your Ubuntu box.
[20:09] <mobasher> i00nsu=>> i think you can look in startup apps in system->preferences-> startup apps
[20:09] <alpharesearch> Gnea: at least that it what https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 tells me
[20:09] <Gnea> alpharesearch: it's really odd the way that they did that
[20:09] <techbreak> sdschulze, wait a sec doin it
[20:09] <i00nsu> thanks mobasher
[20:09] <Mathuin> war59312: nice!  proprietary drivers?
[20:09] <war59312> @Mathuin and changed theme to human
[20:09] <sdschulze> tom-: Doesn't seem like you can uninstall it.
[20:10] <BlueMatt> Aemaeth: thanks, but there are no processes that show up with more cpu than a couple of percent, but the system cpu usage is 30-40%
[20:10] <war59312> @Mathuin And now no more crazy blinking screen and able to pull up the config grub screen and continue install. :D
[20:10] <nsahoo> Monotoko: I guess, I'll take the back up of the /etc/ directory to save configurations. that is the only time consuming part. data and work files are on a different disk mounted at /home
[20:10] <alpharesearch> Gnea: if you run grub-update (and every kernel install triggers this) the grub.cfg file get generated from the default fiel
[20:10] <theos__> i have marvell-yukon gigabit ethernet integrated card, and i have realtek card. Under Ubuntu 10.10, and ubuntu 10.04 LTS is not work, but i modprobe -ed the 8139cp and 8139too...
[20:10] <Gnea> alpharesearch: I know, so I suppose that as long as they aren't being replicated in grub.cfg, it should work just fine
[20:10] <Ilham> help me
[20:10] <Ilham> newbie
[20:10] <Gnea> !ask | Ilham
[20:10] <Monotoko> nsahoo, you should be good then if your home isn't encrypted
[20:10] <Okitain> What is more fully done: elementary theme or elegant theme for Gnome?
[20:11] <nsahoo> Monotoko: no it's not encrypted .. wish me luck
[20:11] <tom-> sdschulze : no, i can't uninstall it without also losing network-manager, but it should be possible to disable it or otherwise keep it from running?
[20:11] <sdschulze> tom-: For me, it takes < 1MB of mem and absolutely no CPU.
[20:11] <techbreak> sdschulze, http://paste.ubuntu.com/510310/
[20:11] <Monotoko> nsahoo, good luck...if you need more help come back here and il try to help
[20:11] <war59312> @Mathuin Nope using nvidia driver that comes with "Additional Drivers"
[20:11] <nsahoo> ok. see you in a bit
[20:11] <Ilham> help me plz
[20:11] <alpharesearch> Gnea: but in grub.cfg there is a condition with a timeout=-1 and I think this is the problem... I guess I will test this manually and than I have to change the scripts.
[20:11] <Okitain> Yes?
[20:11] <sdschulze> techbreak: Comment the top line out.
[20:11] <Mathuin> war59312: huh, I thought that was a proprietary driver.  It's the one I was using,a nd it did work very well.
[20:11] <Ilham> help me plz
[20:11] <tom-> sdschulze : i know, but i'm one of those linux users who like to customize their system down to the point of having controll over what services are running or not
[20:11] <Ryen> Ilham: What is wrong?
[20:11] <Gnea> Ilham: you've been informed how to properly ask for help.
[20:11] <Ilham> helpme plz
[20:11] <Monotoko> !ask| Ilham
[20:11] <Okitain> Ilham, we are listening
[20:11] <yofel> Ilham: well, what's your problem??
[20:12] <techbreak> sdschulze, the first line? with the "cd thing"?
[20:12] <Gnea> !repeat | Ilham
[20:12] <sdschulze> techbreak: Yes -- Then rerun "aptitude update".
[20:12] <Ilham> i dont speaking englis
[20:12] <techbreak> sdschulze, okei
[20:12] <Gnea> Ilham: what language?
[20:12] <war59312> @Mathuin Well it seems there is some bug with it if you have an nvidia 8600m gs grahpics card.
[20:12] <Gnea> alpharesearch: okay
[20:12] <ar> Hi, does anyone know how to update to Maverick final using zsync? I gives me a redirect if I try to download from http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ .
[20:13] <dpac_> Guys, I just had an idea to improve ubuntu. I don't know the upgrade mechanisms. I am downloading the upgrade on my slow internet connection. I also have to download the ISO for my another system. Wouldn't it be great if one could upgrade and install using the same ISO? Is it even possible?
[20:13] <war59312> @Mathuin oh well its all good now.. :) SImple enough workground.. hehe
[20:13] <Ilham> indonesia
[20:13] <rypervenche> I've tried changing my server and it still won't show me 10.10 when I do "update-manager"
[20:13] <Mathuin> war59312: have you tried the high-quality effects?
[20:13] <sdschulze> techbreak: I don't see why to keep lucid-updates inside, anyway.
[20:13] <tonyyarusso> dpac_: you can, with the !alternate cd
[20:13] <war59312> @Mathuin Install is continuing just fine now..
[20:13] <alpharesearch> Gnea: it is about this recordfail variable, do you know more about this?
[20:13] <Gnea> !id | Ilham
[20:14] <dpac_> tonyyarusso: Really? Thats news to me. Thanks, I'll check that out
[20:14] <war59312> @Mathuin Just switched to "Extra" and all good. :)
[20:14] <techbreak> sdschulze, oh yeah... i removed it... and waiting for the update
[20:14] <war59312> @Mathuin And yes the effects are working fine.
[20:14] <Mathuin> war59312: I like the extra effects, they're worth the effort.
[20:14] <war59312> @Mathuin Now I go back to normal and crazy flashing screen again, 4 times per second.
[20:14] <Aemaeth> Mathuin, everyone loves the wobbily windows
[20:14] <Gnea> alpharesearch: there's only one thing there for it. I'm not very familiar with it yet.
[20:14] <Okitain> Am I the only one who got to rescue his disk when doing upgrade?
[20:14] <Ilham> thanks
[20:14]  * sdschulze thinks it's too crowded today.
[20:15] <techbreak> sdschulze, done i guess... :) :) thanks :)
[20:15] <war59312> @Mathuin I perfer no effects myself and was working fine before the installer started.. Very odd bug..
[20:15] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/  <---- help me pls
[20:15] <tom-> i'm running ubuntu 10.10, and i want to disable wpa_supplicant, in an effort to minimize the number of running unnecessary processes -- is there a way to disable wpa_supplicant without removing network-manager completely?
[20:15] <war59312> @Mathuin I just hope the None option works again after upgrade finishes...
[20:15] <alpharesearch> Gnea: I will do the reboot now, thank you.
[20:15] <chouchou> helo, pls I have made some terrible mistake I don't know, I did yum remove openssl
[20:15] <Gnea> !helpme | noob-tux--
[20:15] <chouchou> I can't run yum command agaain
[20:15] <war59312> well that was fun haha :D
[20:15] <chouchou> ls, wget, among other commands are no more working
[20:16] <Mathuin> war59312: I downgraded to 'none' in 10.04 with no trouble while diagnosing an unrelated issue, I imagine it'll dot he right thing in 10.10.
[20:16]  * war59312 is off to upgrade ubuntu server now.. god help me...
[20:16] <noob-tux--> Gnea: sorry
[20:16] <Mathuin> !libreoffice
[20:16] <mobasher> chouchou=>> check you path or env variables
[20:16] <MrSparkle> is there anyway to point webui.exe to a local iso instead of downloading?
[20:16] <war59312> @Mathuin I pray it does.. ;)
[20:16] <Chaos2358> can anyone tell me how i can remove the keyring password on ubuntu 10.04? i've already went into user group settings and set password to not asked but it still does
[20:16] <Fezzler> I removed pulseaudio to get jack working.  Two issues.  Now have no "general" sound controls other than within applications.  YouTube video and audio sync is not working
[20:16] <rypervenche> Oh I found it. My sources were set to only look for long-term releases.
[20:16] <Mathuin> Does anyone know anything about the change from OpenOffice.org to libreoffice or whatever, and how that'll impact Ubuntu?  Just a rename, or something else?
[20:16] <MrSparkle> it seems wastful I just downloaded the 10.10 iso
[20:16] <war59312> @Chaos I blieve your password has to be blank.
[20:16] <Ichat> 10.10 netbook  on virtualbox??? -  i cant get unity running for some strange hardware (probably vga ??)  issue
[20:17] <Mathuin> Ugh!  errno #5 *again*.
[20:17] <Chaos2358> war59312 know how to change it?
[20:17] <tonyyarusso> Mathuin: you'll hardly notice, other than the part where it will actually get changes again
[20:17] <alpharesearch> Gnea: that was it... I'm still not sure what changed between 10.04 and 10.10???
[20:17] <noob-tux--> Ichat: netbook + vb = laggy
[20:18] <Gnea> alpharesearch: no idea either, glad it worked
[20:18] <shawnj> My netbook doesn't have a CD drive, can anyone tell me how to install 10.10?
[20:18] <Mathuin> tonyyarusso: Oh good.
[20:18] <war59312> @Chaos System > Preferences > Passwords and Encryption Keys
[20:18] <Aemaeth> shawnj, usb?
[20:18] <Mathuin> shawnj: USB or CF.
[20:18] <MrSparkle> Sh3r1ff usb flash drive?
[20:18] <Aemaeth> compact flash?
[20:18] <MrSparkle> net install?
[20:18] <Chaos2358> war59312 thanks
[20:18] <alpharesearch> Gnea: I guess this is kind of a bug, so I better file a bug report...
[20:18] <war59312> @Chaos Should see Passwords: login on main screen.
[20:18] <noob-tux--> Ichat: i got dell inspiron 4gb ram vbox running on win7 with ubuntu still im getting laggy thing on it
[20:18] <Gnea> alpharesearch: sounds like a plan
[20:18] <Ichat> noob-tux--:  its not working at all for me i just want to testdrive (unity)  it before i go and install it...
[20:18] <tonyyarusso> Mathuin: netbooks have SD slots, not CF
[20:18] <sxiperio> hello, which driver i must install for Ati x1250 video card?
[20:19] <shawnj> I got the ISO on the netbook
[20:19] <war59312> @Chaos Right click and change password and make it blank.
[20:19] <Mathuin> tonyyarusso: they're all the same to me. :-)
[20:19] <war59312> @Chaos Should fix that issue. Did for me. :D
[20:19] <swiss-chris> erUSUL: it worked! thanks a bunch. now will see if the resizing actually worked the way it should... cheers,
[20:19] <Chaos2358> war59312 i dont have passwords and encryption keys
[20:19] <war59312> @Chaos And Your Welcome
[20:19] <war59312> @Chaos oh
[20:19] <Ichat> noob-tux--:  but unity complaints about some kind of  driver stuf -
[20:19] <swiss-chris> tonyyarusso: it worked! thanks a bunch. now will see if the resizing actually worked the way it should... cheers,
[20:19] <war59312> @Chaos OK u need the package then.. one sec
[20:19] <Mathuin> Bah, I have to boot back into 10.04 to rebuild the flash thingee. :-P
[20:19] <Aemaeth> shawnj, how did you get any version on there already? should be same process
[20:19] <Chaos2358> ok thanx
[20:20] <MrSparkle> there are ways to boot from an .iso off a flash drive
[20:20] <shawnj> Aemaeth: by usb, but now i have the iso on the netbook and i just want to mount the iso and use the installer
[20:20] <Sickler> trying to do sudo sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches but i keep getting denied permissions what do i do
[20:20] <marcos> Good afternoon, I just install the Merkato 10.10 and it crashed on the setup screen: at the welcome, which displays a bar proresso orange, this bar is missing bit to get to the end but 30 minutes and do nothing to ... installation is being done via flash drive. Netbook Edition HP Mini 110 netbook in a model 1140ss
[20:20] <Mathuin> ... except I *can't* since this is the only device I have that writes SD cards and it crashed during install.  This sucks.
[20:20] <dpac_> tonyyarusso: Can you use the alternate CD as live CD?
[20:20] <Aemaeth> go ahead and mount the iso and try?
[20:20] <kapcom01> hello, i would like to use OneConf but i'm not sure how... i installed the package oneconf from software center and i now see the Inventory option.. im signed in and i have shared my mashine.. am i ready? if i install on another machine ubuntu 10.10 will i be able to sync?
[20:20] <tonyyarusso> dpac_: no
[20:21] <Monotoko> marcos, have you ran the disk check option?
[20:21] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:21] <BSS> Can anyone tell me the diffrences between the live cd graphics driver and the driver on installed system?
[20:21] <shawnj> Aemaeth: I mounted the iso, is a dialog supposed to pop up?
[20:21] <marcos> only live
[20:21] <techhelper1> dpac_: no you can’t, since alternative is just a text ui that installs ubuntu
[20:21] <marcos> but now im doing instalation
[20:21] <Admin_> Hello. I just installed 10.10 alongside Windows 7. Now I can't boot up. I am getting a no module name found error.
[20:21] <BlueMatt> is there any way to diagnose a high system cpu if there are no processes using any more than 1% cpu
[20:21] <marcos> what should i do?
[20:22] <jatt> Admin_: did you install Windows 7 after the upgrade?
[20:22] <war59312> @Chaos Just run Synaptic and install "Seahorse"
[20:22] <war59312> @Chaos That should do it.
[20:22] <Chaos2358> war59312 great thank you
[20:22] <Fezzler> tonyyarusso>> I got my jack issue solved.  A/D cable pre-amp too low.  When I used some soft amp, worked.  Since I removed pulseaudio to get jack working, I have not volume or mic controls in GNOME
[20:22] <tonyyarusso> BlueMatt: tell system manager to show all processes, not just your own
[20:22] <Admin_> @jatt No Windows 7 was preinstalled. Ubuntu later.
[20:22] <war59312> @Chaos Sure glad to help.
[20:22] <aeon-ltd> BlueMatt: thats impossible, unless you've got 100x1% processes
[20:22] <war59312> @Chaos Still here if u need me. BTW feel free to PM about this. :D
[20:22] <marcos> ocale: Canot set LC_ALL to deefault locale: No such file or directory
[20:23] <k5ehx> grrr
[20:23] <marcos> locale*
[20:23] <datag> could please someone help me pointing me to an existing bug-report regarding my ATI 4350 with radeon driver doesn't support desktop effects anymore?
[20:23] <pr0xy> The update to 10.10 from 10.04 is freezing at Configuring grub-common.
[20:23] <k5ehx> why does the ubuntu upgrade NEVER used the stupid CD? Why did I bother downloading it?
[20:23] <marcos> LC_CTYPE
[20:23] <bluespotmouse> hi everyone!
[20:23] <marcos> same
[20:23] <marcos> ocale: Canot set LC_ALL to deefault locale: No such file or directory
[20:23] <WXZ> how do I cd into a ntfs partition?
[20:23] <marcos> same
[20:23] <marcos> LC_CTYPE
[20:23] <FloodBot1> marcos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:23] <jatt> damn
[20:23] <swiss-chris> tonyyarusso and erUSUL: well - the resizing and formatting worked, but now I have the following message when I try to open the shrunken ntfs partition from within ubuntu's nautilus browser: Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 6).
[20:23] <shawnj> Aemaeth (or anyone): I mounted the 10.10 iso, is a dialog  or something supposed to pop up to install? or do I have to run a command
[20:23] <swiss-chris> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Input/output error
[20:23] <swiss-chris> NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
[20:23] <FloodBot1> swiss-chris: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:23] <swiss-chris> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
[20:23] <andril> 10.10 install upgrade vs fresh install
[20:23] <Chaos2358> war59312 see pm please
[20:23] <marcos> i need help please
[20:23] <lint> can someone tell me if i will be able to upgrade to 10.10 through the update manager?
[20:24] <tonyyarusso> WXZ: you do't cd into partitions - you mount partitions and cd into directories.
[20:24] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:24] <sxiperio> Which driver i must install for Ati x1250 video card?
[20:24] <magicianlord> Recommend installing desktop or netbook 10.10?
[20:24] <tonyyarusso> swiss-chris: try doing a chkdsk on it from within Windows.
[20:24] <bluespotmouse> is 10.10 already out? should upgrade option appear when launching update manager?
[20:24] <tonyyarusso> !upgrade | lint
[20:24] <k5ehx> shawnj: you can't, really. You'd have to add the source manually, but the upgrader just overrides it with remote repositories. It's a waste of time.
[20:24] <Mathuin> Sometimes this channel reminds me of the helpdesk I used to work at years ago, except with all the users in the same room shouting out trouble reports instead of calling on the phone. :-)
[20:24] <BlueMatt> tonyyarusso: i am showing all processes, aeon-ltd: its not user cpu usage its kernel cpu usage which can be from code in the kernel that does not show up in top or system monitor
[20:24] <haze76> I really do not like Unity. How can I revert to the old netbook interface? The "2D Edition" works, but has a terrible font.
[20:24] <Monotoko> bluespotmouse, update manager -d
[20:25] <Aemaeth> bluespotmouse, you might have to go to settings and change it from long term support to normal upgrades
[20:25] <swiss-chris> tonyyarusso: o.k. will do. thanks for now!
[20:25] <magicianlord> Mathuin: you like dat?
[20:25] <Mathuin> magicianlord: it's masochism i don't have to pay for. :-)
[20:25] <rypervenche> bluespotmouse, I had to change to normal upgrades too, try that.
[20:25] <techhelper1> bluespotmouse: it is out, yes upgrade
[20:25] <Monotoko> bluespotmouse, *update-manager -d
[20:25] <k5ehx> seriously, why won't the upgrade use the CD?
[20:25] <magicianlord> haze76: you do not like unity? you saying i should get desktop only?
[20:25] <k5ehx> this has been broken for the last several releases
[20:25] <techhelper1> k5ehx: why not just download from the web
[20:25] <bluespotmouse> will 10.10 be suitable to my cpu? if not what happens?
[20:25] <techhelper1> where you don’t need to burn a cd
[20:25] <shawnj> Aemaeth: The same thing happens to me, the 10.10 upgrade doesn't appear in update manager, i already switched it to normal upgrades
[20:25] <Aemaeth> Mathuin, i get to sit here and say crazy things to people who genuinely need help
[20:26] <techhelper1> bluespotmouse: it will be fine
[20:26] <WXZ> tonyyarusso: well I can't cd into my directory on an ntfs partition
[20:26] <sxiperio> Which driver i must install for Ati x1250 video card?
[20:26] <Mathuin> Aemaeth: even paranoid shutins need hobbies. :-)
[20:26] <tonyyarusso> bluespotmouse: as long as you aren't running <i686
[20:26] <aeon-ltd> bluespotmouse: if its intel, amd, via or arm it will be fine
[20:26] <haze76> Unity feels cluttered, slow and annoying
[20:26] <haze76> I want the simple interface back
[20:26] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:26] <Aemaeth> well, shawnj , idk what to say if that doesn't work for you, and based on what k5ehx said apparently the cd uses internet upgrade anyhow
[20:26] <aeon-ltd> haze76: just don't use it or uninstall it
[20:26] <rypervenche> Aemaeth, Which server are you using? I know mine didn't show since I was on the French server and it's apparently not updated yet.
[20:26] <haze76> It is there but it looks awful, they put in some sort of nasty arial font
[20:26] <Mathuin> I like the new netbook interface because it's good at saving space.  It doesn't fit on my oldest EeePC, but maybe it's time to retire that netbookl.
[20:27] <Aemaeth> Mathuin, i didn't know there were netbooks old enough to be retired
[20:27] <Sickler> trying to do sudo sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches but i keep getting denied permissions what do i do
[20:27] <bcessa> hi there, someone here using nginx with php-fpm in Ubuntu, I'm having some serious memory problems :O
[20:27] <link_> ernstl hier?
[20:27] <aeon-ltd> Sickler: you need a sudo before echo and after the semi colon
[20:27] <shawnj> Aemaeth: but i don't want to have to unplug my router and plug the ethernet into my netbook just to install with a usb, like i did last time. I figured there was maybe a command to launch an install dialog from the mounted iso
[20:27] <pr0xy> The update to 10.10 from 10.04 is freezing at Configuring grub-common.
[20:28] <alex_mayorga> what's an easy way to install netbook if I installed desktop, I'd like to switch between them at boot
[20:28] <Mathuin> Aemaeth: I have an EeePC 4G, one of the original ones, very tiny.  The 10.10 installer is too big screenwise to fit and there's no vertical scroll ability so I can't actually click on the buttons. :-(
[20:28] <tonyyarusso> Sickler, aeon-ltd: THat won't work either because the part after the redirection will use your permissions.
[20:28] <WXZ> I can't cd into a directory on an ntfs partition on an external harddrive with a label
[20:28] <bluespotmouse> ok thanks guys!
[20:28] <tonyyarusso> Mathuin: you could still use the !alternate installer on that
[20:28] <monkey_d_luffy> how can I query or set the font in console mode?
[20:28] <Sickler> tonyyarusso: yea i did both with sudo as well still with no luck
[20:28] <Mathuin> tonyyarusso: is it text-based?
[20:28] <aeon-ltd> alex_mayorga: theres a package called ubuntu-netbook, not sure how you'd choose between them though at login
[20:29] <tonyyarusso> Mathuin: yes
[20:29] <k5ehx> shawnj: you'll have to manually enter it in the appropriate location in /etc/apt/sources.list (i.e., at the end)
[20:29] <tonyyarusso> Sickler: you'll have to sudo -s, and then run it all
[20:29] <Mathuin> tonyyarusso: after I get my primary machines up I'll give it a try.
[20:29] <alex_mayorga> aeon-ltd: thanks!
[20:29] <xjkx> once i tried to shutdown and it was informed to me it wouldn't loggout because there was another user logged in, I had one in TTY(alt+control+F1), was that what it was talking about ? the user logged in was the same in both x server and the text mode, could that be a bug ?
[20:29] <aeon-ltd> alex_mayorga: your welcome
[20:29] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:29] <marcos> helppp
[20:29] <Mathuin> xjkx: not a bug, definitely desired behavior, and that's what it was talking about.
[20:29] <Aemaeth> Mathuin, i hate when that happens
[20:29] <Nepherius> just installed ubuntu and it seems that "close , minimize ,maximize ..whatever buttons are on the left how do i change that ?:))
[20:29] <xjkx> Mathuin: thanks
[20:30] <alex_mayorga> aeon-ltd: anywhere I can look on switching at log-in
[20:30] <Monotoko> xjkx, just use sudo to shut down and it will allow you to do so
[20:30] <xjkx> Monotoko: thanks
[20:30] <marcos> i will come back windows..
[20:30] <marcos> :(
[20:30] <WXZ> cd /media/External\ Harddrive\ Label
[20:30] <shawnj> k5ehx: sorry, enter what?
[20:30] <WXZ> how come that isn't working?
[20:30] <datag> i've got a ATI radeon HD 4350 and my desktop effects aren't working anymore with the radeon driver in 10.10. any ideas? existing bugs?
[20:30] <k5ehx> shawnj: a manual source line, not that I really know what it would look like
[20:30] <jonathan> Hello. I just did a clean install of 10.10 and my system wont boot, can anyone help?
[20:30] <Monotoko> marcos...do not threaten us with that 1: less help for you, 2: why would we be bothered?
[20:31] <sxiperio> my video car does not work how it must work
[20:31] <Ejdesgaard> how do i get a sound driver?
[20:31] <datag> compiz says "cannot activate desktop effects" and that's it. no clue
[20:31] <shawnj> k5ehx: so mounting the iso to install won't work?
[20:31] <pr0xy> The update to 10.10 from 10.04 is freezing at Configuring grub-common. what can I do to unfreeze it?
[20:31] <k5ehx> shawnj: or just mount it over the cdrom mount point, that would work
[20:31] <lsrline> Anyone have any luck getting the gestures working with the Apple Magic Trackpad in ubuntu 10.10?
[20:31] <Monotoko> marcos, we are all volunteers, if no-one knows the answer then look elsewhere
[20:31] <Ejdesgaard> in ubuntu 10.10 x86_64
[20:31] <sresu> Can I get the new Ubuntu Software Centre used in Meerkat for Lucid??
[20:31] <aeon-ltd> alex_mayorga: this might be relevant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Lucid/DesktopUNESession
[20:31] <alpharesearch> Gnea: if you are interested in this the bug number is 657871
[20:31] <k5ehx> shawnj: only if you manually override the source list
[20:31] <Nepherius> any idea whats wrong , i tried changing themes but the buttons are still one the same side ???
[20:32] <Scunizi> sresu: synaptic package manager (already installed) works better
[20:32] <Monotoko> sresu, nope otherwise you will have to upgrade all of your packages
[20:32] <k5ehx> Monotoko: you change where the buttons are in the gnome configuration editor somewhere, under the window manager I think
[20:32] <shawnj> k5ehx: well i don't know how to do that
[20:32] <haze76> I really dislike Unity
[20:32] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:32] <k5ehx> shawnj: ok
[20:32] <sresu> Scunizi: That will give me the latest version of software-centre w/o upgrade?!
[20:33] <marcos> no one even asked what the problem or tried to help find a solution
[20:33] <sresu> Monotoko: So, w/o upgrading I cannot get one particular package?
[20:33] <marcos> so..opensource
[20:33] <marcos> thanks
[20:33] <Scunizi> sresu: no.. it's a different program that shows you much more than software center.. Look in System>Admin>Synaptic Package Manager
[20:33] <Aemaeth> compiz setting up for 10.10 BYE BYE settings!
[20:33] <marcos> ok Monotoko?
[20:33] <dagny_taggart> !ask
[20:33] <sresu> Scunizi: Ah.. I understood :)
[20:34] <simpleblue_> macros, just ask what you need help with
[20:34] <Mathuin> !md5
[20:34] <Monotoko> sresu, that one package depends on a lot of other packages
[20:34] <sresu> Monotoko: Yeah, I understand. Thanks.
[20:34] <jonathan> Does anyone else have problems booting 10.10?
[20:34] <Monotoko> sresu, no worries :)
[20:34] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:34] <BajK> Why do you have to be invited for ubuntu+1 now?
[20:34] <tom-> jonathan : ubuntu 10.10 does not support booting
[20:35] <shawnj> k5ehx: sudo mount -o loop ~/Downloads/ubuntu-10.10-netbook-i386.iso /media/cdrom
[20:35] <tonyyarusso> BajK: because Ubuntu+1 does not exist.
[20:35] <BajK> #ubuntu+1
[20:35] <Mathuin> bajK: probably because it's for folks working on 11.04 or whatever it's called.
[20:35] <yofel> jonathan: what's the problem?
[20:35] <jonathan> tom-: uhhh?
[20:35] <shawnj> k5ehx: would that work?
[20:35] <yofel> tom-: please be serious..
[20:35] <Scunizi> jonathan: if you havent figured it out . ignore t o m
[20:35] <BajK> tonyyarusso: wtf
[20:35] <Arne_> who's t o m
[20:35] <pr0xy> The update to 10.10 from 10.04 is freezing at Configuring grub-common. what can I do to unfreeze it?
[20:35] <Arne_> whats going on
[20:35] <Scunizi> !wtf | BajK
[20:35] <yofel> BajK: as maverick has been released #ubuntu+1 is closed until the natty toolchain has been uploaded
[20:35] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:36] <jonathan> yofel: I installed a clean installation to hd, and now it wont go to grub it just has a blinking cursor
[20:36] <Guest84109> well, after upgrade nvidi no longer works. i reinstalled all nvidia that was there and still no joy. I'm now in failsafe X. any thoghts?
[20:36] <phil42> nutritious narwhal
[20:36] <tonyyarusso> BajK: We just had a release this morning.  There is no development release yet.  When the Natty toolchain is uploaded, the channel will re-open.
[20:36] <BajK> Gnome-Schnösel, meine Fresse, watch your language, blabla,
[20:36] <zaxonspox> hello, what means "ui gfxboot bootlogo" the UI parameter from syslinux.cfg on UbuntuCD?
[20:36] <Iltri> hi, how can i update the new version of ubuntu?
[20:36] <Mathuin> yay!  copying files seems to have worked, we're now in 'retrieving file 27 of 36'.
[20:36] <Cory`> did they add GiMP back into 10.10?
[20:36] <sresu> BajK: That would be probably because one month after the release is as important as the month prior to the stabilization of the release.
[20:36] <yofel> jonathan: unless you're dual booting you don't see grub by default, are you sure it doesn't fail after grub?
[20:36] <boldfilter> How do I turn on unity?
[20:36] <Arne_> anyone here familiar with mircscripting? NEed som help!
[20:37] <marcos> CAUGHT ON THE SCREEN INSTALLATION UBUNTU 10.10
[20:37] <jonathan> yofel: no not sure, but all I see is a blinking cursor and nothing happens.
[20:37] <tom-> Arne_ : ubuntu does not support mirc scripting
[20:37] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:37] <shawnj> k5ehx: thanks for the _help_ but i have to go, bye
[20:37] <alex_mayorga> marcos: what broke
[20:37] <Arne_> wine + mirc !
[20:37] <Arne_> thats why I even bother to install lunix
[20:37] <Arne_> because of wien.
[20:37] <Mathuin> !wine | Arne_
[20:37] <Aemaeth> why use mirc?
[20:37] <Doonz> anyone here a picasa cli power user?
[20:37] <Guest84109> jonathan: I had that too, the video drivers weren't/aren't loading
[20:37] <xerxex> "TERM environment variable not set." when I type clear on Tilda, terminal client!
[20:37] <xerxex> anyone?
[20:38] <Mathuin> ... there's a channel #winehq for asking about Wine.
[20:38] <jonathan> Guest84189: were you able to fix it?
[20:38] <[cdr]> I'm encountering the fglrx + 10.10 blank screen bug... anyone know if there's a fix?
[20:38] <yofel> xerxex: that's a known bug, would have to search for the bug number though
[20:38] <Mathuin> Aemaeth: Empathy stinks really bad, but not quite bad enough for me to use mirc.
[20:38] <Guest84109> not yet, I'm running failsafeX that's why I'm here
[20:38] <Arne_> Mathuin, I use whine to use mirk, i just have some questions aboot screptin
[20:38] <Aemaeth> Mathuin, i use xchat...i'm fairly happy with it
[20:38] <PwrSurge> tried to upgrade to 10.10 but got upgrade aborted
[20:38] <xerxex> yofel, It happened after the upgrade, no problem before!
[20:38] <PwrSurge> dpkg: error processing junior-config (--configure):
  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of junior-games-gl:
  junior-games-gl depends on junior-config (= 1.19); however
[20:39] <FloodBot1> PwrSurge: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <Mathuin> Arne_: nobody here can help you, go to #winehq, or whatever channel supports mirc.
[20:39] <Scunizi> PwrSurge: servers are being hammered right now
[20:39] <Arne_> :( :(
[20:39] <war59312> rebooting for 10.04 to 10.10 upgrade... please pray with me ;)
[20:39] <Arne_> nøøbs
[20:39] <zaxonspox> hello, what means "ui gfxboot bootlogo" the UI parameter from syslinux.cfg on UbuntuCD?
[20:39] <lsrline> I'm running Ubuntu 10.10.  I have utouch and pymt installed and my apple magic trackpad only works as a single button mouse... anyone know how to fix this... the wiki doesn't seem to be helping me.
[20:39] <Aemaeth> war59312, god speed
[20:39] <Mathuin> Arne_: no, just specialists in a different area.
[20:39] <war59312> ty
[20:39] <noob-tux--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:39] <Mathuin> war59312: good luck!!
[20:39] <PwrSurge> any ideas how to fix?
[20:39] <Sickler> why are so many people having issues with the upgrade
[20:39] <war59312> whoo i see grub
[20:39] <tom-> i'm running ubuntu 10.10, and i want to disable wpa_supplicant, in an effort to minimize the number of running unnecessary processes -- is there a way to disable wpa_supplicant without removing network-manager completely?
[20:39] <k5ehx> Arne_: did you just say that you are using mIrc and other people are newbies?
[20:39] <Mathuin> Sickler: it's day one?
[20:39] <Aemaeth> that's half the battle
[20:39] <ganeshran> hi i downloaded 10.10 from torrent. how do i start the upgrade frm torrent?
[20:39] <yofel> xerxex: yes, this is a regression in 10.10 - see bug 635804
[20:39] <Arne_> k5ehx, yes.
[20:39] <k5ehx> Arne_: ;-)
[20:39] <k5ehx> lol
[20:39] <war59312> oh no blank screen.. pls boot, pls boot
[20:40] <ganeshran> If i give the update manager it will check in the internet
[20:40] <war59312> come on!!!
[20:40] <yofel> xerxex: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tilda/+bug/635804
[20:40] <war59312> whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[20:40] <war59312> ubuntu logo baby
[20:40]  * matematikaadit downloading ubuntu 10.10
[20:40]  * Mathuin cheers!
[20:40] <tom-> calling on all ubuntu specialists
[20:40] <tom-> i'm running ubuntu 10.10, and i want to disable wpa_supplicant, in an effort to minimize the number of running unnecessary processes -- is there a way to disable wpa_supplicant without removing network-manager completely?
[20:40] <Sickler> Mathuin: yea but u think the kinks would be worked out with the RC
[20:40] <L551> Hey all... new to ubuntu.. so I just have a question. During install I gave it 50 GB of space, but now in it, it has 80, what happened?
[20:40] <xerxex> thanks yofel
[20:40] <uLinux> 1600 users :O
[20:40] <noob-tux--> i got ubuntu 10.04 lucid i got this problem from updates http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:40]  * Aemaeth is really happy for war59312 
[20:40] <xerxex> I'll check into it4
[20:40]  * war59312 is happy as hell I see my desktop!! :D
[20:40] <Arne_> tom-, /unload -rs wpa_supplicant.mrc
[20:40] <Mathuin> Sickler: some, but the variety of systems people are running in real life way exceed those tested against the release candidate, I suspect.
[20:40] <mobasher> ganeshran=>> i don't think you need to download the torrent to update...just run sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:41] <yofel> xerxex: there's a workaround posted there too in a comment
[20:41] <war59312> TY God... Thanks Aemeth.. I can finally breeth normally again!
[20:41] <Sickler> Mathuin: good point
[20:41] <mdg2> anyone here have any advice on networking two wireless computers?
[20:41] <uLinux> so i got it wireless internet + lan working. now i would like to know if it's possible to share the internet to other pc just using network manager?
[20:41] <mdg2> but not ad hoc
[20:41] <jatt> mdg2: sure buy a wireless router and connect both to the same network
[20:41] <Mathuin> mdg2: what jatt said is the right way to do it, IMHO
[20:41] <noob-tux--> i got ubuntu 10.04 lucid i got this problem from updates http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:41] <PwrSurge> my upgrade aborted halfway, how to I revert?
[20:42] <mdg2> jatt: that part is done, but they cant' see each other
[20:42] <yofel> noob-tux--: does this happen again if you retry it?
[20:42] <Mathuin> mdg2: can they each see the router?
[20:42]  * Xuzz tweets ubuntu's awesomness to my 20k twitter followers :D
[20:42] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: define "see"?  Are the addresses being assigned by DHCP for both or static?
[20:42] <mdg2> yes
[20:42] <mobasher> mdg2=>> have yo u tried to ping to the other PC ?
[20:42] <Guest84109> my drivers aren't loading http://paste.ubuntu.com/510327/
[20:42] <TrendKill> hey guys, ever since I installed 10.10, the sound is super choppy, is this a typical problem?
[20:42] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: assigned dhcp
[20:42] <noob-tux--> yofel: yup
[20:42] <n207go> does ubuntu 10.10 work with Nvidia drivers??
[20:42] <uLinux> ofc
[20:43] <Aemaeth> how can there be a typical problem the first day?
[20:43] <Guest84109> n207go: not for me
[20:43] <TrendKill> I guess thats a good point
[20:43] <n207go> because I tried upgrading and it wouldnt let me install drivers
[20:43] <Aemaeth> Hah, but haven't heard that one yet
[20:43] <mobasher> n207go=>> quite sure it does otherwise you check the hardware requirement list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes
[20:44] <mdg2> mobasher: would a ip of 168.xxx.x.x (just one number being the last number prevent me from accessing other computer?
[20:44] <Scunizi> n207go: yes.. they have nvidia built in.. opensource drivers and propritory binary blobs.. just don't try to install the ones direct from nvidia without experience.
[20:44] <noob-tux--> yofel: yup
[20:44] <noob-tux--> i got ubuntu 10.04 lucid i got this problem from updates http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:44] <pr0xy> I'm having issues installing 1.100
[20:44] <simpleblue_> 15000 people on the ubuntu forum! :o
[20:44] <pr0xy> I'm having issues installing 10.10
[20:44] <uLinux> simpleblue_: 1598
[20:44] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: not at all, that's fine
[20:44] <Mathuin> "semantic search through the usage of zeitgeist"?  That sounds very marketing buzzwordy. :-P
[20:44] <kapcom01> hello, can anyone tell me how to use OneConf ? thanks.
[20:44] <yofel> noob-tux--: can't help you then, sorry, I don't know why the gpg key would end up invalid :/
[20:45] <Xeno__> Select the partition you want to resize and press Enter. -- This is what it tells me to do but do we honestly have to "resize" anything
[20:45] <Mathuin> yofel: someone else had a gpg key problem the other night but it was not-reachable.  They had something wrong with their router.
[20:45] <Xeno__> i have 34 gigs in my PC
[20:45] <mobasher> mdg2=>> sorry don't quite follow your question...when you write ping -c 5 <IPADDRESS>
[20:45] <n207go> does envy or proprietary drivers work, not the open source ones?
[20:45] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: when I ping, I get "Unknown host"
[20:45] <simpleblue_> 1598?
[20:45] <Xeno__> i mean free
[20:45] <UseTheForce> erhm... need a lil help... i just installed maverick on my lappy... seems like something went wrong.. grub2 halts on "Error: the symbol 'grub_xputs' not found" - any help will be very much appreciated
[20:45] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: are you pinging by name or number?
[20:45] <pr0xy> I can't install 10.10 successfully
[20:45] <yofel> Mathuin: ah, this seems to be something different though from the first glance
[20:45] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: number
[20:45] <noob-tux--> yofel: no worries bro...thanx for ur time
[20:46] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: can you ping the router?
[20:46] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: let me see....
[20:46] <Stereocaulon> Hmm, searched for it, but could not find any concise changelog for 10.10
[20:46] <Guest84109> anybody having trouble with nvidia drivers?
[20:46] <n207go> yes
[20:46] <pegasusbil> 10.10 netbook wont boot
[20:46] <yofel> n207go: they should work usually, I only know that the nvidia-96 driver are broken in maverick
[20:46] <iamhewhoisnot> << /win 1>>
[20:46] <Mathuin> Stereocaulon: you want something more detailed than the release notes?
[20:46] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: shoot forgot rounter's ip
[20:47] <yofel> Guest84109: not me, what's your card and your problem?
[20:47] <noob-tux--> i got ubuntu 10.04 lucid i got this problem from updates http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:47] <Guest84109> yofel: nvidia-96 apparently
[20:47] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: it's probably 192.168.A.1, whatever A is in your laptop's address.
[20:47] <Stereocaulon> Mathuin, yes, like a list of introduced features, for instance...
[20:47] <ganeshran> hi how to install from torrent?
[20:47] <Guest84109> is there a fix?
[20:47] <ganeshran> i have the iso file and mounted t
[20:47] <Mathuin> Stereocaulon: there's a lot of that in the release notes that someone just posted.  Things like which versions of what major apps were bumped up, the change in UI for netbook, etc.
[20:47] <Arne_> who is your daddy and what does he do?
[20:47] <ganeshran> but which is the starting point of installation?
[20:48] <IdleOne> !ot | Arne_
[20:48] <pr0xy> I can't get 10.10 to unstall.
[20:48] <yofel> Guest84109: if you're running maverick then you'll have to stick with nouveau (open source driver) until nVidia fixes their driver to work with xserver 1.9
[20:48] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: okay, it worked
[20:48]  * Mathuin has to click "restart now"!
[20:48] <Stereocaulon> Mathuin, link please?
[20:48] <psusi> ganeshran, you burn the iso to a cd of course
[20:48] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: from both systems?
[20:48] <war59312> wtf sources has fanished from system after 10.10 upgrade
[20:48] <infid> why does lucid use joe as the default editor for visudo instead of nano?
[20:48] <Mathuin> Stereocaulon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes
[20:48] <seyfarth> there a way to have multiple IRC channels on screen at the same time with xchat?
[20:48] <Guest84109> yofel: thanks for the tip - doing that now
[20:48] <ganeshran> psusi: i was able to mount it
[20:48] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: the other one is upstairs - let me check...
[20:48] <mannerrrr> I have installed ubuntu maverick, and after try boot i am getting http://bpaste.net/show/10046/
[20:48] <bl01zk> does netbook version of ubuntu have anything left out that normal one?
[20:48] <Mathuin> psusi: you don't have to burn it to a CD if you have a USB stick around and can use Startup Disk Creator.
[20:48] <swordz> war59312 It does remove some sources
[20:48] <psusi> ganeshran, so?
[20:48] <infid> seyfarth: there is with irssi
[20:48] <magicianlord> does the MM iso properly boot with the USB creator now?
[20:49] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: while you're up there, see if it can ping the first laptop too
[20:49] <psusi> Mathuin, true
[20:49] <n207go> if i upgrade do i disable anything before hand?
[20:49] <mannerrrr> new install, why I am having problem with
[20:49] <swordz> Just go into the source.list file and uncomment them
[20:49] <ganeshran> psusi: doesnt it start from within ubuntu?
[20:49] <k3rmitzz> hi I'm trying to format my partition so I can use it on my windows machine. I have used "mkfs.ntfs -f /dev/sdb2" and it said it finished in like 5 seconds. but when I do fdisk -l it still marks it as linux filesystem
[20:49] <mannerrrr>  Failed to boot both default and fallback entries
[20:49] <gilaniali> what is usually stored in /usr/bin and in /etc/init.d/ ?
[20:49]  * Aemaeth is off to ubuntu-offtopic
[20:49] <pr0xy> 10.10 doesn't work. PM me please I've been trying for 8 hours!
[20:49] <Arne_> k3rmitzz, have you tried Partition Magic? That'll do the trick
[20:49] <bl01zk> any
[20:49] <war59312> @swordz I meant it removed "Software Sources" from the System menu all together on the upgrade.
[20:49] <noob-tux--> i got ubuntu 10.04 lucid i got this problem from updates http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:49] <alex_mayorga> !ubuntu-netbook-remix
[20:50] <psusi> ganeshran, no... it's a bootable install cd... if you already have an older version installed, and want to upgrade, then you do that with the normal update manager
[20:50] <infid> gilaniali: /usr/bin is most normal programs (bash, etc). /etc/init.d has networking service scripts, like mysqld start/stopping, etc
[20:50] <Mathuin> !une
[20:50] <war59312> @sworz Easy enough to just right click sysem and do edit menus and add it back. Thankfully!!
[20:50] <k3rmitzz> Arne_,  no but I image linux can do it too
[20:50] <swordz> war59312 Then it must be somewhere else, I'd guess inside update manager?
[20:50] <seyfarth> infid, thanks man
[20:50] <jatt> k3rmitzz: you created a ntfs filesystem but didn't mark the partition as a dos one
[20:50] <n207go> if i upgrade do i disable anything before hand?
[20:50] <ganeshran> psusi: Ok so if i run this bootable cd. will it overwrite my ubuntu 10.04?
[20:50] <war59312> @Swordz :p It's back..
[20:50] <Xeno__> Hi, what exactly do i have to "resize" for Ubuntu? I was told it would wipe windows if i didnt Resize something
[20:50] <infid> gilaniali: initd is the first process run by linux, so anything in /etc/init.d gets ran first
[20:50] <cloud420> hola
[20:50] <k3rmitzz> jatt,  how do I do that?
[20:50] <psusi> ganeshran, you can install over the existing one, yes
[20:50] <swordz> I'm not on 10.10 yet (busy trying to upgrade 2 computers), so I was just guessing anyway
[20:50] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: yes
[20:51] <war59312> @Xeno That's so you can reize your partitions if u wanted to.
[20:51] <jatt> k3rmitzz: try with gparted
[20:51] <Stereocaulon> Mathuin, thanks for the link, it seems that apart from a few higher versions for some programs, most of it has stayed the same.
[20:51] <k3rmitzz> can't command line do the job?
[20:51] <Mathuin> Xeno__: your file system.  You have a file system with Windows, and you need to make it a little smaller to make room for another file system for Windows, unless your goal is to completely replace Windows.
[20:51] <psusi> ganeshran, but that will delete and replace your current install
[20:51] <Xeno__> No
[20:51] <war59312> @Swordz no problem was just unexpected. Well now u now. ;)
[20:51] <noob-tux--> i got ubuntu 10.04 lucid i got this problem from updates http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:51] <Mathuin> Stereocaulon: that is what it seems to be to me, but I haven't yet started running it.
[20:51] <Xeno__> i am trying to get Ubuntu and have windows Exist
[20:51] <Xeno__> But
[20:51] <Mathuin> ... and now I am.  UNE 10.10 woo
[20:51] <Xeno__> I have 38 GB o_O
[20:51] <Xeno__> free
[20:51] <war59312> k
[20:52] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: so, both can ping the router, but neither can ping each other?  Perhaps the router has some ICMP filtering enabled?
[20:52] <alex_mayorga> !ubuntu-netbook-edition
[20:52] <Mathuin> Xeno__: and all 38G are in the original partition.  It's like living in a warehouse that's one big room -- everyone can see you use the toilet. :-P
[20:52] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: icmp?
[20:52] <war59312> @Xeno OK? Im listening..
[20:52] <aeon-ltd> Xeno__: thats not a problem ubuntu only needs 8gb (bare minimum)
[20:52] <cliff__> Need to stop X server to install a new graphics driver, how do I do dat?
[20:52] <Mathuin> !une | alex_mayorga
[20:52] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: the protocol that ping uses
[20:52] <noob-tux--> !gpg
[20:52] <k3rmitzz> jatt,  I swear remembering to using fdisk and then mkfs to create a ext3 filesystem
[20:52] <Xeno__> i thought minumum was 10
[20:52] <Xeno__> minimum*
[20:52] <Mathuin> Xeno__: so you need to resize the Windows partition, and make it say 20G *smaller*.
[20:52] <aeon-ltd> cliff__: kill X or gdm, then you'll fall back to a vt
[20:52] <Mathuin> Then create a new 20G partition for Ubuntu.
[20:53] <Stereocaulon> Mathuin, I have upgraded today. The only difference I've encountered so far is that one Wine Game suddenly started normally, while another game refused to start with sound. Strange, because 10.04 and 10.10 use the same version of Wine, 1.2
[20:53] <pr0xy> please help. 10.10 will not install.
[20:53] <Xeno__> o_O why would i need a SMALLER HDD
[20:53] <Xeno__> lmao
[20:53] <erkan^> Gwibber doesn't work :(
[20:53] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: in router setup, what would I be looking for to fix that?
[20:53] <Fatalis> i'm really used to two finger scroll gesture on my laptop, any way to get this working on ubuntu? the device brand is ALPS
[20:53] <cliff__> aeon-ltd, Thanx, I forgot!
[20:53] <PwrSurge> trying to upgrade to Maverick but get http://paste.ubuntu.com/510333
[20:53] <Mathuin> Stereocaulon: I run Wine 1.3 from a PPA, have you tried upgrading to that?
[20:53] <PwrSurge> can anyone help out?
[20:53] <erkan^> !Gwibber
[20:53] <Mathuin> Xeno__: you do not need a smaller hard drive.  You need a new partition, and your current partition is taking all the space.
[20:53] <Xeno__> Alright
[20:53] <Xeno__> So
[20:53] <cloud420> is this english or spanish ?
[20:53] <cloud420> hello?
[20:53] <cloud420> i guess im alone
[20:54] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: maybe number of users is restricted or something...
[20:54] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: It could be any number of things...  Actually, the first thing I'd look for is something about wireless client "isolation".  Then start poking at other security stuff.
[20:54] <Xeno__> What do i "resize"
[20:54] <Mathuin> Think of the disk as a birthday cake.  If you have no friends (because you run Windows), you get to eat the entire cake.  If you make a friend (say Ubuntu) you have to share the cake.
[20:54] <Xeno__> when it comes to the selection list do i pick WinXP?
[20:54] <Mathuin> You need to resize the Windows partition.
[20:54] <aeon-ltd> PwrSurge: do 'sudo dpkg -configure -a'
[20:54] <Xeno__> Alright =( i hope this doesnt wipe windows
[20:54] <Mathuin> If you're running WinXP, then yes.
[20:54] <Mathuin> Resizing should not wipe.
[20:54] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: okay, I'll have a look.  thanks for helping me :)
[20:54] <cliff__> aeon-ltd, doesnt work, asks for a specific job ID or something...
[20:54] <noob-tux--> i got ubuntu 10.04 lucid i got this problem from updates http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:54] <yofel> cloud420: it's english, see #ubuntu-es for spanish support
[20:54] <infid> how come 'sudo select-editor' and chose 'nano' and i run 'sudo visudo' it still uses joe?
[20:54] <Xeno__> Should i use 10GB or perhaps more?
[20:55] <bangladesh> friends, I wish to install Ubuntu on my Intel Core 2 Duo... Despite the fact of Ubuntu calling amd64 version, I can install it with no problems, right?
[20:55] <UseTheForce> is there any way to get pass the grub rescue prompt?
[20:55] <Stereocaulon> Mathuin, I've tried running the 1.3 branch as well, but there are so many regressions. That is the first term that comes to mind in combination with Wine, always different regressions each version. It's maddening, but I just gave up on it.
[20:55] <jatt> bangladesh: yes
[20:55] <PwrSurge> dpkg: unknown option -o  ???
[20:55] <bangladesh> thanks jatt! :D
[20:55] <PwrSurge> wth?
[20:55] <Billynkid> anyone having a problem with ubuntu 10.10 netbook freezing connecting to wifi
[20:55] <PwrSurge> di not even have -o?
[20:55] <aeon-ltd> cliff__: run 'top', then find the pid and sudo pkill it
[20:55] <Mathuin> Xeno__: I would use 20, because you have so much free. :-)
[20:55] <noob-tux--> i got ubuntu 10.04 lucid i got this problem from updates http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[20:55] <murcherson> help i've uninstalled something i shouldn't have via synaptic. Not sure what though. Is there any way i can get a list of recently uninstalled applications. Thanks.
[20:56] <pr0xy> 10.10 doesn't work. PM me please I've been trying for 8 hours!
[20:56] <Xeno__> So that would leave me with about 18 gigs left =/ alrighty
[20:56] <Xeno__> Ill try it
[20:56] <Xeno__> thanks for the help
[20:56] <Xeno__> ^^
[20:56] <kangarooo> hello i put live cd in MAC computer and it loaded but live menu doesnt react.. it give language choosing but cant choose couse keyboard doesnt react.. what to do?
[20:56] <FloodBot1> Xeno__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:56] <Stereocaulon> Mathuin, if you want all your Windows games/ apps running like they should, you'll need at least 6 different versions. But I'll stop here, because I go even more offtopic.
[20:56] <yofel> PwrSurge: what were you trying to do with '-o' ? dpkg doesn't have that option, it seems like the junior-config package is broken though
[20:56] <Scunizi> pr0xy: nobody will PM.. questions and answers should be in channel for all to learn.. you need to ask more specific questions to get specific answers..
[20:57] <gdb> erkan^: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/twitters-oauthpocalypse-today-upgrade.html
[20:57] <Mathuin> Stereocaulon: luckily, I just use Steam so it's just one.
[20:57] <PwrSurge> I tried to do: 'sudo dpkg -configure -a'
[20:57] <rascal999> x11vnc, how do i make it point to desktop?
[20:57] <erkan^> ok i go see, gdb
[20:57] <kapcom01> hello, im thinking installing ubuntu 10.10 64bit... id like to know if there is any problem with flash 64.. thanks
[20:57] <Stereocaulon> Mathuin, I also run steam, but most of the games I love, don't run on it. I'm a retrogamer, you know ;-)
[20:58] <PwrSurge> but get:  dpkg: unknown option -o
[20:58] <aeon-ltd> PwrSurge: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[20:58] <trism> erkan^: did you upgrade to maverick? after an upgrade, gwibber needs to import your accounts to sqlite, and it seems to get stuck sometimes, I had to delete my settings in ~/.gconf/apps/gwibber and then reconfigure them in gwibber's Edit/Preferences menu before is successfully realized it need to import the accounts
[20:58] <Scunizi> kapcom01: on a rare occasion.. but overall not really
[20:58] <infid> kapcom01: flash on ubuntu 10.04 64bit works fine for me, i assume 10.10 would
[20:58] <kangarooo> Macintosh keyboard doesnt react on Ubuntu 10.10 live cd in Mac  Comp what to do? cant find any help in google
[20:58] <pr0xy> okay, I can't get 10.10 to install at all. I've run into problems with the cd, if I update through lucid update manager, it freezes at grub.
[20:58] <kapcom01> infid Scunizi thanks
[20:58] <PwrSurge> ok now that works
[20:58] <PwrSurge> but get the same error about junior-config
[20:58] <Mathuin> Stereocaulon: I was really really excited to see Abe's Oddysee and the sequel on Steam.  Worth the five bucks each. :-)
[20:58] <gdb> erkan^: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/how-to-get-pino-without-oauth-to-work.html -- probably will work for gwibber, too (and is a non-testing software solution) this is what I do for Pino on Fedora.
[20:58] <yofel> murcherson: /var/log/apt/term.log will show what package actions have been done
[20:59] <pegasusbil> 10.10 netbook install not booting
[20:59] <PwrSurge> aeon-ltd, : same as http://paste.ubuntu.com/510333/
[20:59] <Mrokii> hello. I've had problems with crashing Ubuntu lately. And after one of the last crashes the left mousebutton stopped working. Does anybody have a clue what could be broken (apart from the mouse, which I doubt somehow).
[20:59] <gdb> erkan^: Then again, it doesn't work. ;-)  Hopefully Gwibber will get a real update at some point.
[20:59] <PwrSurge> what is junior-config anyways?
[20:59] <Stereocaulon> Mathuin, I don't really like that series, too much frantic platforming, but it's also for sale on Gog, without DRM for $5,99
[20:59] <murcherson> yofel: thanks a lot
[20:59] <trism> gdb: gwibber has already been fixed to use oauth for both lucid and maverick
[21:00] <gdb> trism: Ah, nice.  I wonder why it's broken for erkan^ then.
[21:00] <aeon-ltd> PwrSurge: no idea..., sorry
[21:00] <Stereocaulon> Mathuin, if you like to continue discussing this, maybe we should go private instead of polluting the main channel
[21:00] <erkan^> I go see
[21:00] <DogWater> Are the bits for pxe network installs for 10.10 on in the ISO somewhere?
[21:00] <nebula_> Help me !
[21:00] <nebula_> How do I fix this problem software source "disbaled on upgrade to maverick"
[21:00] <nebula_> and duplicate twice.
[21:01] <Stereocaulon> DogWater, You'll need the Alternate install for that
[21:01] <guntbert_> !enter | nebula_
[21:01] <lunks> Congrats on 10.10 release! :)
[21:01] <yofel> PwrSurge: it's part of debian-junior, did you install any junior-* package ? as this isn't part of the default install
[21:01] <tom-ubuntu> hey, hello everybody.. I just have a quick question.. I downloaded alternate iso today, and performed an offline upgrade from Lucid to maverick.. it took about 1 hour to upgrade.. then I plugged in the ethernet. and went in to check for updates.. now it is UPGRADING once more.. downloading about 360 MB... and it will take more than 2 hours to complete.. is this all normal ?????
[21:01] <nebula_> !enter
[21:01] <erkan^> gdb, thank you very much
[21:01] <erkan^> but and Facebook? :S
[21:01] <Stereocaulon> tom-ubuntu, that's perfectly normal
[21:01] <murcherson> yofel: perfect
[21:02] <pr0xy> okay, I can't get 10.10 to install at all. I've run into problems with the cd, if I update through lucid update manager, it freezes at grub.
[21:02] <JoeDye> I am getting this error:"no root file system is defined" when I am trying to install 10.10 64bit. I have two partition(one 40GB, the other 250GB) I am trying to install on the first. What do I do? I waited an hour so I am repeating my problem.
[21:02] <cupis> tom-ubuntu, uprgading packages which are not on the CD/not part of ubuntu base install?
[21:02] <tom-> i'm running ubuntu 10.10, and i want to disable wpa_supplicant, in an effort to minimize the number of running unnecessary processes -- is there a way to disable wpa_supplicant without removing network-manager completely?
[21:02] <noob-tux--> i got ubuntu 10.04 lucid i got this problem from updates http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[21:02] <lunks> I have an issue with my Ubuntu loading screen, though. How can I restore to the defaults? For now it's just a text Ubuntu 10.10 and ugly dots. Some random texts as well.
[21:02] <guntbert_> nebula_: on upgrades all ppa get disabled because they usually are made for a special version
[21:02] <L551> Hello... I am new to ubuntu. I am trying to install aMSN, but it states I need Tcl/tk v 8.5 or above to compile it. In terminal, it states I have 8.4. How do I update this?
[21:02] <lunks> L551, just use apt-get install amsn
[21:02] <tom-ubuntu> I am not sure which packages got upgraded from the cd, and whick are being upgraded from internet..
[21:02] <Stereocaulon> tom-ubuntu, You probably executed the install form the CD. With an online upgrade through dist-upgrade, you'll get the latest versions through the upgrade instead
[21:03] <lunks> L551, sorry, sudo apt-get install amsn
[21:03] <alex_mayorga> !wpa
[21:03] <cupis> L551, install the package from universe
[21:03] <miguel> ehi
[21:03] <PwrSurge> yofel, : not sure unless it was a dependency
[21:03] <miguel> alguien que me entienda?
[21:03] <erkan^> :(
[21:03] <tom-ubuntu> I executed the shell script on the distro cd..
[21:03] <nebula_> guntbert_, you must manually remove them
[21:03] <Stereocaulon> lunks, it sounds like your're hit by the nVidia bug.
[21:03] <yofel> PwrSurge: well, essentially it fails because /etc/blends/blends.conf is missing, but I don't know where that file is supposed to come from
[21:03] <Guest88539> alguien puede ayudarme?
[21:04] <Blue1> hmm why is #ubuntu+1 invite only?
[21:04] <jatt> !es
[21:04] <fladd> hi there
[21:04] <lunks> Stereocaulon, I didn't know I was hit by it :P How can I restore it?
[21:04] <lunks> Blue1, cause 10.10 has been released. :)
[21:04] <guntbert_> nebula_: I was talking about *your* problem :-)
[21:04] <adrian15b> Guest88539: Visita: #ubuntu-es
[21:04] <Blue1> okay let me see how to report a bug then
[21:04] <Blue1> !bugs
[21:04] <PwrSurge> yofel so should I try to reinstall junior-config?
[21:05] <jonathan> Is anyone having a problem booting from HD with 10.10? All I get is blinking cursor!
[21:05] <fladd> can anyone tell me where I can find the documentation for this unity interface? I just upgraded my netbook remix and I cannot operate it without knowing how unity works. It also freezes all of the time for 10 seconds or so, so I really need to know how to use it correctly. I also cannot find the ubuntu help at the system anymore.
[21:05] <UseTheForce> jonathan, aye i have the same problem
[21:05] <pegasusbil> hw do i get invited to join ubuntu+1
[21:05] <UseTheForce> grub rescue
[21:05] <tom-ubuntu> I executed gksudo "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" to start my offline upgrade..
[21:05] <UseTheForce> trying to figure it out
[21:05] <jonathan> UseTheForce: any progress in figuring the problem out?
[21:05] <yofel> PwrSurge: possibly, maybe purge the package with 'sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends junior-config' (if you don't have any config files that you want to keep) and then run 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[21:05] <sil3nt|warri0r> hello frnds
[21:06] <rww> pegasusbil: You don't. It's closed until Natty Narwhal exists.
[21:06] <sil3nt|warri0r> having a strange problem
[21:06] <tom-ubuntu> I executed gksudo "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" to start my offline upgrade..  (this is to <Stereocaulon>)
[21:06] <pegasusbil> tnx
[21:06] <guntbert_> pegasusbil: not possible at the moment - there is nothing to talk about there anyway
[21:06] <Stereocaulon> tom-ubuntu, thanks for the clarification
[21:06] <UseTheForce> jonathan, i'm trying to manually reinstall grub2
[21:06] <vipul> w32codecs i wants to install this
[21:07] <Xeno__> Hi o_o;;i just started the boot disk and there was what looked like an animated guy in a circle and a keyboard lol is that normal (first time with ubuntu)
[21:07] <jonathan> UseTheForce: ok let me know how that goes please :)
[21:07] <vipul> i wants to install w32codecs but i can't see in synpatic manager or in ubuntu software center
[21:07] <sil3nt|warri0r> i cant login to my kde desktop, everytime i try to login its just crashes,  but with other user a/c its ok
[21:07] <sil3nt|warri0r> plz help
 so I understand I am not doing a useless recurrent upgrade am I ??
[21:07] <UseTheForce> jonathan, roger that bro... lemme know if u figure anything out
[21:07] <PwrSurge> damm it
[21:07] <jonathan> UseTheForce: will do
[21:07] <PwrSurge> same thing
[21:08] <PwrSurge> it reinstalled but still gives same error
[21:08] <Stereocaulon> tom-ubuntu, no, the update manager is just updating your packages to the latest versions that didn't make it in time to be included on the ISO-image of Maverick
[21:08] <KungFuJesus> ok what gives, why is this not fixed yet? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exiv2/+bug/596327?comments=all
[21:08] <Xeno__> Hi o_o;;i just started the boot disk and there was what looked like an animated guy in a circle and a keyboard lol is that normal (first time with ubuntu)
[21:08] <yofel> PwrSurge: then please file a bug, there should be a crash file in /var/crash, file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug /var/crash/.(name of the junior-config.crash)'
[21:08] <tom-ubuntu> thank you very much for clarification.. good night all...
[21:08] <PwrSurge> ok, now it works
[21:08] <vipul> i wants to install w32codecs but i can't see in synpatic manager or in ubuntu software center
[21:08] <vipul> am i visebal ?
[21:08] <yofel> PwrSurge: after that try to remove the package and the packages that depend on it using apt-get
[21:09] <blakkheim> vipul: ubuntu-restricted-extras will give you all the codecs
[21:09] <Xeno__> Guess im going to have to keep it up lmapo
[21:09] <Xeno__> Hi o_o;;i just started the boot disk and there was what looked like an animated guy in a circle and a keyboard lol is that normal (first time with ubuntu)
[21:09] <blakkheim> Xeno__: don't repeat yourself like that
[21:09] <PwrSurge> now that I also uninstalled junior-games-gl
[21:09] <Stereocaulon> vipul, what are you trying to say?
[21:09] <vipul> blakkheim,  ?
[21:09] <marius007> i want to join at debian chanel , i can´t . this say me ýou need to be identified with servise ´´
[21:09] <Blue1> i am an a circular loop reporting a bug
[21:09] <sil3nt|warri0r> anyone ??
[21:09] <Xeno__> im trying to figure out if it was about to wipe my WinXP or not o_o;;
[21:09] <BlueMatt> is there any way to diagnose a high system cpu if there are no processes using any more than 1% cpu
[21:09] <vipul> Stereocaulon,  i am just trying to compile gyachi
[21:09] <vipul> and i need w32codecs
[21:10] <vipul> w32codecs   <---- "tsp codecs are needed, sometimes they dont come in the package but still needed to create the folder"
[21:10] <Stereocaulon> !patience  | sil3nt|warri0r
[21:10] <PwrSurge> now how do I restart the dist upgrade?
[21:10] <Xeno__> Then perhaps someone should try answering me =/
[21:10] <Scunizi> !codecs | vipul
[21:10] <sil3nt|warri0r> :(
[21:10] <PwrSurge> sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:10] <PwrSurge> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[21:10] <PwrSurge> No new release found
[21:11] <yofel> PwrSurge: if dpkg --configure -a finishes fine run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[21:11] <Scunizi> !medibuntu | vipul
[21:11] <WXZ> how do I open an unknown file format in gedit?
[21:11] <Xeno__> WIll someone PLEASE answer my question
[21:11] <Gnea> !attitude | Xeno__
[21:11] <guntbert> !register | marius007
[21:11] <Blue1> trying to report a bug but I am in a circular loop, what's the trick?
[21:11] <Stereocaulon> WXZ, try finding out which file format it is from the command-line: try file [file you want to investigate]
[21:12] <WXZ> vdi
[21:12] <rjg_> i can't seem to change my docky theme - what do I do now?
[21:12] <Xeno__> What "attitude" did i have? I simply asked if someone could answer my question
[21:12] <rww> Xeno__: The animated guy in the circle and keyboard is the "Press any key for accessibility options" image. It's part of the normal LiveCD thing.
[21:12] <WXZ> but I don't know the encoding Stereocaulon
[21:12] <adrian15b> Xeno__: Yes, that's normal, what's the boot disk? The hard disk or the cdrom ?
[21:12] <yofel> Xeno__: what you saw was the the cover of the boot configuration screen, it should continue to boot the live disk after that
[21:12] <Xeno__> Okay thanks WXZ
[21:12] <Xeno__> Really :O
[21:12] <Xeno__> But it just stayed there -- i didnt let it load for that long though
[21:12] <Xeno__> CDrom
[21:13] <Stereocaulon> WXZ, it seems to be a Virtual Box Harddrive image
[21:13] <Xeno__> But -- i thought it was going to do harm so i restarted my comp again
[21:13] <yofel> Blue1: cricular loop? where does this happen?
[21:13] <Gnea> Xeno__: did the cd drive light keep blinking?
[21:13] <happyface> what's a good ubuntu release for an old intel p4 with 1gb ram?
[21:13] <Xeno__> Im not sure
[21:13] <WXZ> Stereocaulon: I worded it wrong
[21:13] <Xeno__> i wasnt really looking at it
[21:13] <WXZ> I meant encoding, not format
[21:13] <blakkheim> !mini | happyface
[21:13] <Blue1> !bugs
[21:13] <adrian15b> Xeno__: It does not doo any harm you can leave it there till it loads. Maybe the checksum of your image is not correct.
[21:14] <yofel> Blue1: ok, how did you try to file the bug?
[21:14] <Stereocaulon> happyface,  MAverick should run fine on it, provided your hardware is supported.
[21:14] <Xeno__> No, i waited like 30 seconds lol
[21:14] <Xeno__> i was freakin out kinda didnt know what it was
[21:14] <UseTheForce> jonathan, u still here bro?
[21:14] <Xeno__> So i came here to check up on it
[21:14] <happyface> Stereocaulon: blakkheim: I'm running 9.10 on it now but it's slow as heck
[21:14] <infid> how come 'sudo select-editor' and chose 'nano' and i run 'sudo visudo' it still uses joe?
[21:14] <Xeno__> Anyways rebooting again ^^; sorry for the misunderstanding
[21:14] <Gnea> Xeno__: well, if it stops blinking for more than a few minutes and doesn't do anything, then it's likely it stalled. an ubuntu cd will never overwrite anything on a HDD until you explicitly tell it to
[21:14] <vipul> sir plzz i need sort of help if you can do me a favour i will very thankful to you
[21:14] <Stereocaulon> happyface, Maverick should be faster than 9.10
[21:15] <blakkheim> infid: EDITOR=vim visudo
[21:15] <Xeno__> alright
[21:15] <blakkheim> or nano or whatever
[21:15] <happyface> Stereocaulon: really? that's good to know! I'll load it up!
[21:15] <Xeno__> Thanks for the help everyone
[21:15] <jonathan> UseTheForce, yep
[21:15] <Xeno__> im trying now
[21:15] <yofel> Blue1: by the way, if you need help with filing bugs you can ask the bugsquad for help in #ubuntu-bugs too
[21:15] <vipul> w32codecs   <---- "tsp codecs are needed, sometimes they dont come in the package but still needed to create the folder
[21:15] <Scunizi> infid: sudo nano will get you nano
[21:15] <Stereocaulon> happyface, if you're low on Mem and willing to make a few sacrifices to the UI, try Fluxbuntu, it's like greased lightning
[21:15] <vipul> so tell me what to do ?
[21:15] <blakkheim> Scunizi: that's not what he was asking
[21:15] <n207go> does NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 96) on 10.10??
[21:15] <WXZ> Stereocaulon: how do I find out it's encoding?
[21:15] <happyface> Stereocaulon: might try that aswell, thanks for the suggestion
[21:16] <jonathan> UseTheForce: you figure out anything?
[21:16] <Scunizi> n207go: you can find it in the repo's.. use synaptic package manager
[21:16] <yofel> !w32codecs | vipul
[21:16] <Stereocaulon> happyface, something in between, which is also quite elegant, is Xubuntu. I love XFCE, think of it as Gnome-Lite.
[21:16] <Blue1> yofel: thanks I am trying to report a bug but I am in a circular loop.  I will try that
[21:17] <Stereocaulon> happyface, another desktop environment to look out for is lxde, also great
[21:17] <n207go> ty
[21:17] <dack70> Should I install Ubuntu 10.10 desktop or netbook edition on an old Pentium 3 1.2GHz Dell laptop?  I already have the desktop version, but it seems a little slow.
[21:17] <Stereocaulon> WXZ, is the extension of that file .vdi?
[21:17] <blakkheim> dack70: use the minimal iso
[21:17] <SortiE2> Great work GUYS!!!
[21:17] <Doyle> Issue: In games the character, mouse, whatever, is continuously moving towards the upper-left corner of the screen. Any ideas on how to solve this?
[21:18] <electrofreak> what is the current state of nvidia and ati drivers in linux. I might be considering going to ATI... I've never bought ATI before.... so I was wondering about linux support.
[21:18] <happyface> Stereocaulon: yea fluxbuntu looks a little TOO lite
[21:18] <blakkheim> electrofreak: nvidia has much better linux support
[21:18] <yofel> Blue1: I don't understand what you mean by cricular loop, apport usually works fine
[21:18] <Stereocaulon> happy, yes sacrifices indeed, but it *does* run fast.
[21:18] <ruif13> :) hia again about 4 hours after my upgrade and all still great :)
[21:18] <ruif13> :D
[21:18] <ruif13> too fasterrrrrr :D
[21:18] <Blue1> yofel: private message ok?
[21:18] <electrofreak> blakkheim, that was always my impression, too... hmmmmmm
[21:19] <uLinux> how can redirect a website to another one?
[21:19] <uLinux> using hosts file?
[21:19] <jpds> uLinux: Using a Rewrite rule?
[21:19] <electrofreak> what about these AMD chipsets? how well is linux supported with them?
[21:19] <PwrSurge> how do you force apt-get to ignore package holds?
[21:19] <PwrSurge> --ignore-hold does not work
[21:19] <Doyle> Issue: In games the character, mouse, whatever, is continuously moving towards the upper-left corner of the screen. Any ideas on how to solve this?
[21:19] <uLinux> jpds: like microsoft.com to redirect to ubuntu.com
[21:19] <blakkheim> electrofreak: if you show me the one specifically i can give you a better answer
[21:20] <Gnea> PwrSurge: try removing the holds
[21:20] <PwrSurge> Gnea: how?
[21:20] <aleksandrit> hi all. i can't start x after updating to 10.10, it writes 'module nvidia not found, no drivers available'. how to fix it?
[21:20] <jpds> uLinux: You would need to set up a rewrite rule on the server that hosts the domain you want to redirect.
[21:20] <blakkheim> aleksandrit: install the nvidia driver, that's pretty obvious
[21:20] <ruif13> nLinux  <META HTTP-EQUIV="Refresh" CONTENT="1; URL=The web address or page you want to redirect to">
[21:20] <Moc> CPU Scaling doesn't have the right text color in 10.10
[21:20] <ruif13> :D
[21:20] <Stereocaulon> uLinux, try using the hosts file is a quick-and-dirty solution, mostly used to blacklist certain networks
[21:20] <Scunizi> PwrSurge: sometimes  a full sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will pull them in.. dist-upgrade is NOT designed to take you to the next release but mearly upgrade versions of packages in your system if they are available.
[21:20] <Moc> grey on grey = unreadble ;)
[21:21] <bsd128> ver 10.10 - whats with the install - it just says ubuntu 101.0 w\ith 4 dots under it - absolutely no idea of whats happening or how long - benn running for some time now
[21:21] <adrian15b> uLinux: Using hosts file you could assign microsoft.com and www.microsoft.com one of the www.ubuntu.com ips but I don't understand why anyone would like to do so
[21:21] <Gnea> PwrSurge: well how did you hold the packages originally?
[21:21] <aleksandrit> blakkheim, how if i only have command line? x doesn't start
[21:21] <lolla> hi i am using linux mint and i have a sound problem my sound card is ati built in
[21:21] <ruif13> Moc: yap :(
[21:21] <electrofreak> blakkheim, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131644
[21:21] <bsd128> download
[21:21] <dugger5688> Moc: Yeah, realized that after upgrade... I just set it to show the icon instead
[21:21] <blakkheim> aleksandrit: install with aptitude
[21:21] <PwrSurge> Scunizi, : does not work, same thing
[21:21] <Scunizi> lolla: mint is not supported here.
[21:21] <PwrSurge> aborted due to held packages
[21:21] <Moc> I'll leave both, probably will be a update in the next few day that will fix it
[21:21] <noob-tux--> i hope tomorrow someone from here can help me out with my problem :) good night guys! enjoy ur day! http://paste.ubuntu.com/510266/
[21:21] <uLinux> adrian15b: must be IPs right?
[21:22] <rww> !mintsupport | lolla
[21:22] <PwrSurge> Gnea: i did not, the dist-upgrade aborted due to a dependency error
[21:22] <bsd128> the dosts change for white to red and back and thats all that happens
[21:22] <nebula_> Help me !
[21:22] <Stereocaulon> uLinux, for instance, I redirect all traffic from ad-networks like Doubleclick to 127.0.0.1
[21:22] <nebula_> How do I fix this problem software source "disbaled on upgrade to maverick"
[21:22] <lolla> ok thank you
[21:22] <Gnea> PwrSurge: if there are no held packages, how can something nonexistant be ignored?
[21:22] <bsd128> going into vmware machine
[21:22] <blakkheim> electrofreak: i don't know about the onboard audio but everything else looks like it should be alright
[21:22] <uLinux> Stereocaulon: but you use IPs?
[21:23] <aleksandrit> blakkheim, it writes "cannot stat 'aptitude'". and before drivers were already installed via "hardware drives"
[21:23] <aleksandrit> *drivers
[21:23] <Stereocaulon> uLinux, yes I still use IP4 addresses.
[21:23] <Gnea> PwrSurge: and can you pastebin the error?
[21:23] <myke5161> Hey all how is ubuntu 10.10? Any unforseen problems or issues?
[21:23] <Gnea> !10.10
[21:23] <adrian15b> uLinux: Yes... if you want to rename names you should probably set up a bind server and use that as a default in your resolv.conf and re-write the microsoft.com site as a ubuntu.com CNAME (if it can be done, I am not sure)
[21:23] <bencc> is there a difference between installing vbox guest additions from the iso or from ubuntu repositories?
[21:23] <Gnea> myke5161: check the bug tracker
[21:24] <Gnea> !bugs | myke5161
[21:24] <Stereocaulon> uLinux, ah, no, I use patterns for hostnames in the blacklist, not IP-ranges.
[21:24] <brad_> hey, my wireless isn't working in 1010, worked in 1004 though?  people having wireless issues?
[21:24] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: got a second?
[21:24] <PwrSurge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/510353/
[21:24] <uLinux> whats the blacklist file
[21:24] <churl> Hello!! On boot, after the BIOS loads, when the screen is all black but the blinking cursor at the top left, but before GRUB loads, what is that screen called?
[21:24] <bsd128> finally got a message - system panic after about an hour
[21:25] <difu339> Hi, Can someone tell me how to go back to normal mode? (I was beta testing 10.10, now i want to not beta test. can someone help me?)
[21:25] <difu339> now that 10.10 is out i dont want to beta test anymore
[21:25] <edbian> difu339, Just update.  you'll be in normal mode.
[21:25] <difu339> i want stable updates
[21:25] <bsd128> panic - not syncing -attempted to kill init
[21:25] <difu339> ok
[21:25] <Gnea> PwrSurge: yeah, --ignore-hold isn't a valid apt-get option
[21:25] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: ya
[21:25] <electrofreak> blakkheim, yea, I might just keep my current nvidia card on a board like that.... dunno yet. I'm really indecisive about my next build, heh
[21:25] <dugger5688> uLinux: That's very possible to do. Look into tutorials on bind9. Try searching for things like "ubuntu DNS bind tutorial" or similar. It's fairly easy, what I do is run a DNS server in a stripped down ubunt-server running on  a VM so I can shut it down if I screw something up and fall back to router DNS.
[21:25] <bsd128> this is supposed to be better ? than what?
[21:25] <difu339> edbian, at the beginning launch screen it has a different start up from 10.04
[21:26] <difu339> is that the beta start screen? or does everyone get that
[21:26] <edbian> difu339, 10.10 is stable now.  It should be different than 10.04
[21:26] <Gnea> PwrSurge: you'll want to use aptitude for that, it has hold/unhold options
[21:26] <PwrSurge> Gnea, : so how do I remove holds?
[21:26] <difu339> like it has the text when it shuts down?
[21:26] <blakkheim> electrofreak: yeah i know the feeling, i'm having trouble deciding between a few parts myself
[21:26] <mdg2> I'm trying to ping another computer on network and ping command goes out, but the "From  messages is icmp=1 Destination Host Not found
[21:26] <mdg2> icmp_seq Destination...
[21:27] <ben_q> is this a "feature" in maverik: if you press F2 on a file, it highlights the whole filename including the extension. with koala it only highlighted the filename without extension. can I change this again?
[21:27] <Stereocaulon> electrofreak, just make sure that everything you include in your machine is green on the linux hardware compatibility list.
[21:27] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: does that have to do with allowing wireless briding?
[21:27] <electrofreak> blakkheim, it's also hard because both AMD and Intel are coming out with some nice new stuff next year... but I wasn't anticipating waiting that long for a new system.
[21:27] <electrofreak> Stereocaulon, yea.... I always do.
[21:28] <Stereocaulon> electrofreak, when did you buy your current system?
[21:28] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: it could.  A bit hard to say without being familiar with all of your gear though.
[21:28] <Doyle> Yo. Here's an issue I can't figure out. In most games the character/spaceship/whatever, is forced to the upper left corner of the screen. Using a laptop with a touchpad with external monitor, mouse, kbrd connected. Issue persists when only using the laptop. Keys aren't stuck, nothings touching the touchpad.
[21:28] <PwrSurge> Gnea: Where? I don't see any option?
[21:28] <supersentenzo> ciao
[21:28] <blakkheim> electrofreak: this is kind of OT for ubuntu channel so PM me if you want to talk about hardware and such
[21:28] <electrofreak> Stereocaulon, well... it's about 5 years old... a socket 939 with an x2 in it (upgraded to that later)
[21:28] <churl> Hello!! On boot, after the BIOS loads, when the screen is all black but the blinking cursor at the top left, but before GRUB loads, what is that screen called? Because my computer is not going past that screen and I don't know what to google for this :)
[21:28] <bsd128> I guess i'll have to wait until the bugs are ironed out before I try to install 10.10 - maybe 6 months from now.
[21:28] <kronic999> evening all
[21:29] <supersentenzo> !list
[21:29] <Stereocaulon> electrofreak, yes, I understand why you don't want to wait much longer ;-)
[21:29] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: each response from ping "From xxx.xxx.x.x icmp_sequences=1 Destination Host Not Found"
[21:29] <Gnea> PwrSurge: aptitude --help | less
[21:29] <Stereocaulon> churl, that screen is called the POST (Bios checks)
[21:29] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: assuming the first three octets of the IP addresses are all the same, then I'd blame the router config *somehow*, even if I'm not sure how.
[21:29] <trism> ben_q: there is a bug report for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/644170 although I can't reproduce it
[21:30] <electrofreak> Stereocaulon, don't get me wrong... it's actually pretty capable, even to todays standards.... but I've pretty much maxed out the board....so next logical step is a new mobo... which means new everything else.
[21:30] <churl> Stereocaulon: thanks man/woman
[21:30] <Doonz> anyone here a picasa cli power user?
[21:30] <izardstreet> firefox has been crashing now that i switched to 10.10
[21:30] <guntbert> ben_q: my version behaves the same as ever (only first part is selected)
[21:30] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: i did note on the dhcp page it listed all of my computers and their ip
[21:30] <ben_q> thanks, trism, I'll subscibe there
[21:30] <uLinux> cya
[21:30] <edbian> izardstreet, launch firefox in the terminal.  When it crashes look there to see any valueable error messages it left behind
[21:30] <lunavorax> Hi everyone !
[21:30] <adrian15b> churl: If you can boot from a cdrom (i.e. Ubuntu live cd) then it might be a GRUB problem although you do not see Grub.
[21:31] <izardstreet> edbian: thanks
[21:31] <Stereocaulon> churl, np, such an easy question was no trouble at all to answer, I 've fiddled with computers for 25 years now, so I can claim some experience there...
[21:31] <supersentenzo> hi
[21:31] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: that's a good start
[21:31] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: what's the router model?
[21:31] <lunavorax> I have just installed ubuntu 10.10 on my computer but .bashrc is missing. Where can I grab/reconstruct this file ?
[21:31] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: belkin g
[21:31] <Chaos2358> is anyone here familiar with sox?
[21:31] <churl> adrian15b: thanks :)
[21:32] <alex_mayorga> !party
[21:32] <kronic999> Hi all, I'm installing Ubuntu 10.10 from an 8GB Fat32 USB drive, I used universal USB Installer to install 10.10-desktop-i386.iso on the drive, I had an issue where there is a data error in 'casper\filesystem.squashfs'. File is broken. I went a head anyway and booted from USB but the boot failed. any ideas?
[21:32] <trism> lunavorax: /etc/skel/.bashrc has a copy
[21:32] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: F5d7230-4
[21:32] <cupis> lunavorax, it is optional, you can just create it if you need to put any config there
[21:32] <spydon> Is there any application to control fan speed in ubuntu?
[21:32] <Stereocaulon> lunavorax, you can just open up your favorite editor and start it anew. Lot's of examples on the net.
[21:33] <Stereocaulon> Chaos2358, you mean the sound package sox?
[21:33] <brad_> 1010 break anybody's wireless?  it won't pull up available networks.  feel like it might be some kind of issue with the wireless button above my keyboard.
[21:33] <lunavorax> Thank you very much trism, cupis, Stereocaulon
[21:33] <Chaos2358> stereocaulon yes
[21:33] <slylias> How do I set a chrontab to update my system time every 5 minutes with NTP?
[21:33] <_pHI_> Hi ! i was curious if i need to re-install ubuntu 10.10 final over the RC in order to make sure i have all the latest packages? or is a simple system update through update manager enough? thanks so much.
[21:33] <iceroot> slylias: */5 * * * * yourcommand
[21:34] <Stereocaulon> Chaos2358, having trouble with it?
[21:34] <iceroot> slylias: you can edit/create crons with "crontab -e"
[21:34] <rww> !final | _pHI_
[21:34] <lunavorax> I have another problem, I installed the broadcom wifi driver and now the wifi icon i the top bar disapeared...
[21:34] <Jordan_U> churl: Try holding shift during boot, Ubuntu hides the grub menu by default so it's hard to tell when it's a problem before or after grub.
[21:34] <KungFuJesus> does anybody know how I can find the maintainer for the kexiv package?
[21:34] <slylias> */05 * * * * ntpdate pool.ntp.org      is already in my chrontab entry for root.
[21:34] <c3l> slylias: man crontab and crontab for more info
[21:34] <Chaos2358> stereocauloni installed and it wount recognize mp3 audio formats what i've found tells me why and that i need to compile from source codes in order to rectify and i dont know how
[21:34] <slylias> But it isn't working.
[21:35] <infid> how do i add a user to a group?
[21:35] <LatHans> hi! I have a 64-bit system, but ubuntu.com says that 32-bit is recommended. I don't believe I need to use any special software that is 32-bit only. what should I do?
[21:35] <_pHI_> rww: hmm, wheni do that it complains about missing signatures for maverick release or similar
[21:35] <PwrSurge> Gnea: sudo aptitude unhold xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-openchrome does not work
[21:35] <trism> ben_q: actually it seems I can reproduce it, but it only affects List View
[21:35] <chrissharp123> LatHans: use 64-bit
[21:35] <cupis> slylias, wow you'd be better off with something like openntpd ?
[21:35] <Stereocaulon> Chaos, but can you playback mp3 normally outside sox?
[21:35] <edbian> LatHans, Do you have more than 3.2Gb of ram?
[21:35] <rww> _pHI_: No idea, sorry. I haven't done it myself.
[21:35] <crimsonmane> hello again everyone. so i just downloaded Flash Player and it looks like a LIB file, belonging in the LIB directory. how do i get it there? if i just try to move it, it says error
[21:35] <Chaos2358> stereocaulon
[21:35] <LatHans> edbian: yes. 6 GB.
[21:35] <kronic999> BUMP! :) Hi all, I'm installing Ubuntu 10.10 from an 8GB Fat32 USB drive, I used universal USB Installer to install 10.10-desktop-i386.iso on the drive, I had an issue where there is a data error in 'casper\filesystem.squashfs'. File is broken. I went a head anyway and booted from USB but the boot failed. any ideas? (URL to screenshot if allowed http://imgur.com/qZtNn.png )
[21:35] <churl> it DID boot from a Live CD. what where would that leave me?
[21:35] <PwrSurge> it does not remove the holds
[21:35] <Chaos2358> stereocaulon yes i can
[21:35] <markboston> who was it i was just talking to
[21:36] <edbian> LatHans, The whole point of 64bit arch is to allow the use of more than 3.2Gb of ram. If you go 32 bit you'll be limited to only 3.2 Gb of your 6
[21:36] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: what subversion?  (Probably on a sticker underneath)
[21:36] <edbian> LatHans, Go 64 bit
[21:36] <themusicgod1> i have turned 'alerts' to mute and the sound theme to 'no sounds' yet still...I get the ubuntu drums whenever i click 'OK' on menu dialogues, etc, really loud.  How do I force gnome/etc to stop doing that
[21:36] <iceroot> slylias: 5 not 05  also dont use ntdate, use the complet path, because cron doesnt know the path to the binary by defaultr
[21:36] <coz_> CrimsonIdol,  open a terminal  type   gksudo nautilus
[21:36] <coz_> CrimsonIdol, sorry
[21:36] <crimsonmane> kronic999: that's about the problem i was having. you'll need to install using the Alternate install disc
[21:36] <themusicgod1> beyond turning off all sound all together
[21:36] <infid> nm
[21:36] <Stereocaulon> Chaos2358, did you upgrade, or did you make a fresh install of 10.10?
[21:36] <slylias> thank you iceroot
[21:36] <boscop> are the intel graphics drivers of ubuntu 10.10 faster than before? slow graphics drivers are the main reason why I'm rarely using ubuntu on my laptop..
[21:36] <coz_> crimsonmane, open terminal   gksudo nautilus
[21:36] <coz_> crimsonmane,   you can then drag it where it should be
[21:36] <LatHans> alright:)
[21:36] <LatHans> thanks
[21:36] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: v6002?
[21:36] <markboston> who was it i was talking to about unity?
[21:37] <themusicgod1> (for 9.10)
[21:37] <Chaos2358> stereocaulon no i'm still using 10.04 not going to upgrade just yet due to seeing alot of issues in here i want to wait till some have been fixed
[21:37] <Rodrigo_Retamoza> hi, I'm having trouble with installing ubuntu 10.10, can anyone help me out?
[21:37] <crimsonmane> thank you coz_  and just to clarify am i correct that this is where adobe flash needs to go? just drag it there and it will be installed?
[21:37] <kronic999> Crimsonmane: So we cant do it from USB? we need to burn a disc, is that what you are saying?
[21:37] <themusicgod1> Rodrigo_Retamoza: what specifically is going wrong?
[21:37] <iceroot> !details | Rodrigo_Retamoza
[21:37] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: I was hoping for something either like "P74559-F" or "9xxx"
[21:37] <crimsonmane> kronic999: i had your problem and the LiveCD wont work for you either. you'll need to use the alt install... lemme grab the link fo ryou
[21:38] <valentino_tuga> hi. I've just installed kubuntu 10.10 and i have no sound
[21:38] <Stereocaulon> Chaos2358, sounds reasonable enough indeed, I checked the known issues, didn't find anything that was applicable to my machine, so I took the plunge today...
[21:38] <coz_> crimsonmane,  well  if you  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras  you will automatically get flash
[21:38] <lunks> Ok, the nice Plymouth Ubuntu logo splash screen just doesn't work here. Using Nvidia drivers. What should I do?
[21:38] <crimsonmane> thank you coz_  i'll do that instead
[21:38] <aemaeth_> I just installed 10.10 on my laptop, and grub says "error: the symbol 'grub_xputs' not found." what do i do from here?
[21:38] <slylias> The problem is that I'm running this in a VM, that isn't running often. Gradually fixing errors is the problem!
[21:38] <Doyle> Problem: When playing a game, the character is stuck moving wards the upper left corner of the screen. I can click away and he'll go to where I indicate, but he runs back up to the top left of the screen after. Happens in most games. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[21:38] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: P10535-c (I think that '10")
[21:38] <slylias> They'll never get fixed.
[21:38] <Stereocaulon> Chaos2358, what error message did you get with sox?
[21:38] <Rodrigo_Retamoza> ok, sorry, I'm trying to install ubuntu 10.10, I get to the "Who are you?" screen with no trouble but it doesn't let me go farther from there (forward button's grayed out), what could be missing?
[21:38] <coz_> crimsonmane,  if you have sun java installed you may want to remove  iecedtea and related packages
[21:38] <crimsonmane> kronic999:  are you 32bit or 64bit?
[21:38] <josephschwenker> I just downloaded Ubuntu 10.10 amd64 for my intel 64 cpu, and i get authentication failure after the plymouth screen
[21:38] <kronic999> 32
[21:38] <cupis> slylias, run ntpdate on startup and openntpd as a background daemon
[21:39] <josephschwenker> I described the problem more thoroughly here: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592397
[21:39] <Chaos2358> stereocaulon cannot recognize input format
[21:39] <crimsonmane> coz_: i dont actually have it install, just downloaded
[21:39] <coz_> crimsonmane,  which flash or java?
[21:39] <infid> how do you delete a user from a group from the command line?
[21:39] <crimsonmane> well both i guess. trying to use youtube
[21:39] <Scunizi> Rodrigo_Retamoza: does it provide a place to enter your name? did you do that?
[21:39] <slylias> cupis: It's a VM, it won't run on 'startup' because I'm not actually shutting down and starting up the machine, just restarting the VM.
[21:39] <crimsonmane> kronic999: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download scroll all the way down and pick a country
[21:39] <coz_> crimsonmane,  ok  then get rid of what you downloaded and just install the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:39] <kronic999> awesome thanks, ill try that
[21:39] <Chaos2358> stereocaulon from what i've read sox cannot include mp3 recognition in its package due to copyright laws so you have to find it like fixing dvd playback
[21:39] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: P10535-c
[21:39] <kronic999> :)
[21:39] <lunks> Ok, the nice Plymouth Ubuntu logo splash screen just doesn't work here. Using Nvidia drivers. What should I do?
[21:39] <albena> hi
[21:40] <Rodrigo_Retamoza> yes, I filled all the fields, the password confirmation is checked as well, all previous steps were completed
[21:40] <coz_> crimsonmane,  if you want sun java you will have to enable the partner repositories  and install sun java  then remove icedtea
[21:40] <lunks> Stereocaulon, u said something about nvidia bug, what is it? can i fix it?
[21:40] <crimsonmane> kronic999:  wait up
[21:40] <slylias> Thank you for the help, it's working now!
[21:40] <kronic999> I cant get 10.10? :<
[21:40] <Chaos2358> stereocaulon and i've only been using ubuntu or linux in general for two weeks
[21:40] <crimsonmane> kronic999: once you pick a country, choose MAVERICK
[21:40] <randomOfAmber> Rodrigo_Retamoza: what if you go back then forward? your data should still be there...
[21:40] <guntbert> spydon: for thinkpads there is tpfand (https://launchpad.net/~thinkpadusers/+archive/ppa/+build/849872) the jaunty build also works on lucid
[21:40] <kronic999> crimsonmane, ok
[21:40] <Stereocaulon> Chaos2358, try this link, it may help you, even though it's a bit old: http://stefaanlippens.net/audio_conversion_cheat_sheet
[21:40] <coz_> crimsonmane,  however the  restricted extras will allow you to watch youtube videos
[21:40] <Rodrigo_Retamoza> yeah, I did that as well, but do you want me to check for fields that could be missing?
[21:40] <Scunizi> Rodrigo_Retamoza: did the password or user name (login name) have a space?
[21:40] <Chaos2358> ok thanx brb
[21:40] <randomOfAmber> Rodrigo_Retamoza: of course
[21:41] <spydon> guntbert, too bad this isn't a thinkpad, although I have thinkpads too so thanks for the tip :)
[21:41] <Rodrigo_Retamoza> the "Your name" field does have a space
[21:41] <Rodrigo_Retamoza> the other ones don't, completely alphanumeric
[21:41] <Scunizi> Rodrigo_Retamoza: that's ok
[21:41] <guntbert> spydon: :)
[21:41] <crimsonmane> ok coz_  what do i need again? what do i do to remove the java i already downloaded? just delete the folder?
[21:41] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: it has a built-in AP, but I don't use that or wireless bridging
[21:41] <carlosfrg> join ubuntu-es
[21:41] <silasdavis> anyone know how I can make grub-mkconfig work from a livecd on a disk not mounted as /, without some chroot tomfoolery
[21:41] <silasdavis> ?
[21:41] <tripelb> 10.04 1.3M internet connection nothing going on - video image comes in a set of stills. What's the problem. I see things are at 100% in the use meter up there.
[21:42] <churl> adrian15b: it booted from a Live CD
[21:42] <carlosfrg> join  #ubuntu-es
[21:42] <Stereocaulon> Chaos2358, try installing libsox-fmt-ffmpeg if you did not do so already
[21:42] <kronic999> crimsonmane, I'm looking for: Maverick -> rc -> ubuntu-10.10-rc-dvd-i386.iso  Right?
[21:42] <churl> Jordan_U: seems ;the problem is not grub :(
[21:42] <slawek> Witam]
[21:42] <crimsonmane> that'll be the one
[21:42] <crimsonmane> kronic999:
[21:42] <Rodrigo_Retamoza> I went back as you told me, nothing was missing but...it seems it got fixed anyways
[21:42] <Chaos2358> stereocaulon no help there that just explains how to use n ot how to compile and ok 1 sec i will install that now
[21:42] <Rodrigo_Retamoza> so thanks
[21:42] <smev9> hello, i recently installed 10.10 and i would like to have fast access to my data via the folders in /home/USER/ but i have not enough room left to copy the files there. Is there a way to link the data on my ntfs harddisk to that place?
[21:42] <carlosfrg> odijgfi
[21:42] <kronic999> crimsonmane, then I just do what I did b4 with the universal USB installer?
[21:42] <Stereocaulon> Chaos2358, try searching in Synaptic if you want GUI, or just type: sudo ap-get install libsox-fmt-ffmpeg
[21:43] <tripelb> ALSO how do I keep something on my clipboard, say a url from a browser, even though I close the program that I copied from. This is odd that it forgets.
[21:43] <JoeDye> I am getting this error:"no root file system is defined" when I am trying to install 10.10 64bit. I have two partition(one 40GB, the other 250GB) I am trying to install on the first. What do I do?
[21:43] <randomOfAmber> tripelb: it should remember that.  which program isn't?
[21:43] <slawek> pl ubuntu
[21:43] <slawek> ?
[21:43] <josephschwenker> does anyone have an answer for my question?
[21:43] <crimsonmane> kronic999: only burn it to disc. i had 3 days of install issues trying to use usb and livecd ... forced to use not only alternate but 10.10 ... 10.04 was all i could find for some reason but someone helped me find 10 10
[21:43] <Stereocaulon> JoeDye, Danger Will Robinson! Don't make any rash decisions, it might screw up your data.
[21:43] <Jordan_U> churl: Do you see anything different if you hold shift during boot? (start holding while you still see messages from the BIOS, "POST").
[21:43] <crimsonmane> i think that is a dvd style... i was given a cd version
[21:44] <kronic999> crimsonmane, ok thanks for your help. peace out
[21:44] <crimsonmane> GL
[21:44] <tripelb> I copied it from chrome. closed chrome. restarted chrome. tried to paste.
[21:44] <pinnerup> Humm - after upgrading to Maverick on my desktop, the screen is flickering quite a lot with semi-regular intervals. It's constant for different resolutions and frequencies. Never seen this before.
[21:44] <crimsonmane> tripleb do i know you from wow?
[21:44] <tripelb> randomOfAmber, ^^
[21:44] <tripelb> crimsonmane, sorry but I dont play it.
[21:44] <randomOfAmber> tripelb: ?
[21:45] <josephschwenker> anyone?
[21:45] <tonyyarusso> mdg2: man, I'm running out of ideas.  Maybe try ##networking
[21:45] <Stereocaulon> JoeDye, do you have multiple OS'es installed on your target HDD and if so: Did you reserve space for Ubuntu?
[21:45] <tripelb> crimsonmane, but I do like Belgian beer
[21:45] <randomOfAmber> !ask josephschwenker
[21:45] <fasta> Does Maverick switch automatically to nouveau when you use nvidia currently?
[21:45] <tripelb> I copied it from chrome. closed chrome. restarted chrome. tried to paste. randomOfAmber
[21:45] <randomOfAmber> !ask | josephschwenker
[21:45] <mdg2> tonyyarusso: okay.  Thanks for all your help - much appeciated :)
[21:45] <josephschwenker> I asked a question.
[21:45] <josephschwenker> I am asking for you to answer the question.
[21:45] <shafi> I'm looking for a good "Bandwidth Management" tool, can some one help plz?
[21:45] <crimsonmane> josephschwenker: i'm scrolling up but not seeing your question :( there's a ton o text can you please re-ask?
[21:45] <coz_> fasta,  it should disable nouveau once you have installed the nvidia driver
[21:45] <tripelb> crimsonmane, I am ogen as well.
[21:45] <randomOfAmber> josephschwenker: yes but the scrolling in this channel is very fast, you'll have to sum it up again after waiting for awhile
[21:45] <Stereocaulon> fasta, I don 't think so, probably it prefers the closed drivers.
[21:45] <churl> Jordan_U: showed me grub menu, i selected a "recovery" selection, and is now trying to boot (progress!) I'm not sure if booting recovery should usually take soooo long? 5 minutes so far still going
[21:46] <josephschwenker> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592397
[21:46] <josephschwenker> that's my problem
[21:46] <fasta> coz_, I am talking about a working Lucid installation that uses nvidia.
[21:46] <ter0> sudo apt-get install sl
[21:46] <ter0> :P
[21:46] <fasta> coz_, so, an upgrade.
[21:46] <JoeDye> Stereocaulon  No, I use 2nd pat for files
[21:46] <tripelb> 10.04 1.3M internet connection nothing going on - video image comes in a set of stills. What's the problem. I see things are at 100% in the use meter up there.
[21:46] <Jordan_U> churl: It normally should not take that long, but hopefully now that you can see some output there is an error message that can give a hint at what's going wrong.
[21:46] <fasta> All the problems people are reporting seem to indicate that it does select nouveau.
[21:47] <crimsonmane> josephschwenker: very similiar to my issue
[21:47] <crimsonmane> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download and use the Alternate Download CD
[21:47] <coz_> fasta,  mm   it should still disable nouveau...that may a problem with the upgrade
[21:47] <crimsonmane> pick a country then get Maverick
[21:47] <coz_> fasta,  you can blacklist nouneau  let me find  link
[21:47] <guntbert> infid: deluser <user> <group>
[21:47] <josephschwenker> alright.  i don't see intel64, though
[21:47] <Stereocaulon> JoeDye, please clarify with a pastebin of your current HDD partitions.
[21:47] <scabies> bye
[21:47] <fasta> shafi, wondershaper can do that.
[21:47] <guntbert> infid: with sudo :-)
[21:47] <crimsonmane> amd is the name but its all the same
[21:47] <zcat[1]> So what are first impressions of the meerkat? Is it worth upgrading to?
[21:48] <crimsonmane> it confused me too
[21:48] <crimsonmane> but its the right one to use
[21:48] <churl> Jordan_U: is it possible to go back through all this output?
[21:48] <josephschwenker> i have an intel processor, it's 64
[21:48] <josephschwenker> the only option for ubuntu is amd64
[21:48] <guntbert> zcat[1]: thats off topic here :-)
[21:48] <crimsonmane> josephschwenker: dont let the AMD label fool you. i have Intel also.
[21:48] <fasta> coz_, the point is that a release should never change a user's configuration.
[21:48] <crimsonmane> it is for all 64 bit architecture
[21:48] <Scunizi> josephschwenker: that will work
[21:48] <mbn_18> Hi, I wish to install firefox on a server using the minimal packages of X ( preferable no gnome )
[21:48] <josephschwenker> but when i tried the standard disk, amd only worked on an amd system
[21:48] <quant_> hi, trying to get WoW running on wine in 10.10, it worked in 10.04 and I understand that I need to add: sys.kernel.yama.ptrace_scope = 0 into /etc/sysctl.conf - can anyone tell me what am I doing by setting this?
[21:49] <crimsonmane> josephschwenker: that's why we're getting you to use the alternate install.
[21:49] <Stereocaulon> zcat[1], good question, I have not seen any notable differences, other than some higher version numbers for some programs and a few (for me) useless additions to the preferences menu.
[21:49] <MrStein> ikonia: Hi! Remember yesterday claimin xchat is part of LiveCD? Now I'm running 10.10 GNOME i386 Lice and it also has no xchat.
[21:49] <josephschwenker> alright, i'll try it
[21:49] <MrStein> Lice_Live
[21:49] <MrStein> =
[21:49] <josephschwenker> any idea why i can't use the standard one?
[21:49] <crimsonmane> josephschwenker: i suffered for 3 days trying to install ubuntu and this is how i finally got it
[21:49] <coz_> fasta,   if you look here   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426745  scroll down to  "SevenMaqchines" post   you can blacklist nouveau   however I agree that it should not change the settings
[21:49] <Stealth_> MrStein, what d you want?
[21:49] <zcat[1]> hmm, perhaps I should find a 'what's new' page and see what's new ;)
[21:49] <mtx_init> MrStein: not everything on livecd is installed
[21:49] <mbn_18> how do I set ubuntu to use the lowest X configuration possible?
[21:49] <jatt> wow why are the fonts so big in ubuntu 10.10
[21:49] <MrStein> Stealth_: to clear up something from yesterday
[21:50] <randomOfAmber> mbn_18: you want a console? or just low graphics?
[21:50] <Stealth_> Ahh ok MrStein
[21:50] <Stereocaulon> zcat[1], https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes#Release%20Overview
[21:50] <crimsonmane> josephschwenker: no reason is given why sometimes installing just doesnt work and we have to use the alt
[21:50] <josephschwenker> alright
[21:50] <zcat[1]> have mostly decided I should just stick with the LTS for a while anyhow, lucid is 'good enough' and I should focus on getting other things done and not upgrading all the time.
[21:50] <mbn_18> randomOfAmber: I am going to run Firefox to get screenshots on a cloud server. I prefer the least memory usage
[21:50] <shafi> tnx fasta
[21:51] <josephschwenker> i have a 40 gb disk that i need to reformat, but it has a whole bunch of different partitions
[21:51] <tripelb> OK no one answers: let me put this another way. as soon as I start chrome the usage on the sustem monitor goes 100%. I closed chrome and ran top and there's no chrome things running. HELP!
[21:51] <josephschwenker> it's weird, it has a 38 ext4, 32 gb fat, and this weird /dev/sgd
[21:51] <mbn_18> randomOfAmber: is it posaible to install firefox without X? ( only console )
[21:51] <tripelb> jatt your monitor resolution might be set too low.
[21:52] <guntbert> tripelb: use htop to see what is hogging your cpu (on CLI...)
[21:52] <tripelb> josephschwenker, re your disk. remove all the partitions. you can do that with gparted. Then create a partition
[21:52] <tripelb> guntbert, ok. (I did top on cli.)
[21:53] <josephschwenker> where is gparted?  I don't see it.  I don't see partition editor, either.
[21:53] <randomOfAmber> mbn_18: eeh, I don't know.  I'd say just use metacity (what's there with a basic graphics driver).  you can enable it by running (alt+f2) 'metacity --replace' without the quotes.  there's also a more permanite solution, which I'm looking up now
[21:53] <josephschwenker> i only see disk utility
[21:53] <zcat[1]> josephschwenker:  I'm a big fan of zero-wiping drives if they contain nothing important.. start off with a nice fresh MBR, new partition table, etc...
[21:53] <guntbert> tripelb: I read, but htop is a little easier to read (and still CLI)
[21:53] <tripelb> guntbert, installing htop mow.
[21:53] <josephschwenker> when i try "format drive" in disk utility, it says error formatting drive, /dev/sdg busy
[21:54] <mbn_18> randomOfAmber: What is metacity?
[21:54] <josephschwenker> mbn_18: metacity is Ubuntu's default window manager.
[21:54] <tripelb> josephschwenker, you need to dismount the drive. If you haev booted from the drive then you need to boot from a livecd
[21:54] <tripelb> josephschwenker, use my name in the line if you want me to notice.
[21:54] <JoeDye> Stereocaulon http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4029/screenshot1oc.png
[21:54] <mbn_18> josephschwenker: Is it the cheapest? in memory terms?
[21:55] <randomOfAmber> mbn_18: a window manager (afaik)
[21:55] <josephschwenker> mbn_18: Yes, though compiz has more features.
[21:55] <Chaos2358> stereocaulon great man thanks alot that package was all i needed working fine
[21:55] <BizGuy> can someone reccomend an alternative to the Universal USB INstaller? It doesn't work for me. SOmeone gave me one that worked well last time
[21:55] <Jane_uk_> is there anyway to edit the boot grub
[21:55] <tripelb> zcat[1], how does one zero-wipe a drive?
[21:55] <adrian15b> mbn_18: You could use one of these X drivers that use vesa or vga instead... It's not X properly but firefox will see it as X. I have never tested it. I think that it was something like: xserver-xorg-svgalib but I am not quite sure.
[21:55] <xangua> BizGuy: unetbootin
[21:55] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | Jane_uk_
[21:55] <zcat[1]> tripelb:  sudo -i a rootshell then cat /dev/zero > /dev/sdx
[21:55] <josephschwenker> tripelb: which partitioning option should i use?
[21:55] <randomOfAmber> Jane_uk_: maybe a better question for #grub
[21:55] <Jane_uk_> thanks ill try that
[21:55] <_Neytiri_> i am haieng a issue playing a dvd on my system it keeps giveing me the error cant read form source or disk
[21:56] <stodertoad> I just upgraded my laptop to 10.10 and now I get a purple screen and no desktop
[21:56] <mbn_18> adrian15b: Thanks, ill look into it
[21:57] <josephschwenker> which option should i choose, tripbel?
[21:57] <fridgerator> easier to upgrade to 10.10 from 10.04 or fresh install?? i remember when i tried to upgrade to 10.04 from 9.xx it took forever and i ended up doing a fresh install anyways
[21:57] <zcat[1]> fridgerator:  I've always done fresh installs in the past. Not too hard if you have /home on it's own partition.
[21:57] <alf_daderfield> will ubuntu run on windows nt?
[21:57] <ryankrizan> Question, going to do a fresh install of 10.10. I have a dual-core laptop, with 4 gigs of ram. Should I use the 64-bit or the 32-bit ubuntu?
[21:57] <josephschwenker> ryankrizan: depends on if your processor is 64 or 32 bit
[21:57] <stodertoad> i did an upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10
[21:57] <R33D3M33R> hi all
[21:58] <josephschwenker> redeemer: hello.
[21:58] <ryankrizan> josephschwenker, It's a 64 bit processor.
[21:58] <jatt> ryankrizan: 32
[21:58] <zcat[1]> fridgerator:  then I spend the next three days reinstalling all the software and stuff that I had on the old install. I suck at this ;)
[21:58] <R33D3M33R> does anyone have Radeon HD on Maverick Meerkat?
[21:58] <Jordan_U> ryankrizan: 64
[21:58] <oxicarus> omg. so many people in this channel. guess i have a great chance of finding a solution to my issue. guys. look. i'm just the regular user, no 'advanced guru' or anything even remotely close :p i have this ubuntu server, i did apt-get install *apache2* *php5* *mysql* (sort of, you get the drill). now, the parsing of .php files works fine,, but(!) ONLY on root (/var/www/), when i put an .php file in ~user/public_html/, the php file will not parse correctly ;( is t
[21:58] <quant_> R33D3M33R, I do
[21:58] <josephschwenker> ryankrizan: Then do 64-bit, OMG! Ubuntu said that 64's have better performance with 64 bit os's
[21:58] <stodertoad> hmm seems like thats what I have to do
[21:58] <R33D3M33R> quant_: do you have fglrx installed?
[21:58] <quant_> R33D3M33R, yes
[21:59] <guntbert> oxicarus: you might get better answers in #ubuntu-server :)
[21:59] <foul_owl> anyone know how to set up midi in ubuntu so that it plays clips of a real drum kit
[21:59] <josephschwenker> so which option should i use for partitioning?
[21:59] <_Neytiri_> i am haieng a issue playing a dvd on my system it keeps giveing me the error cant read form source or disk
[21:59] <R33D3M33R> and 3D acceleration works?
[21:59] <erUSUL> !midi | foul_owl
[21:59] <Bleubeard> hello
[21:59] <quant_> R33D3M33R, yes, please ask the question if you have a problem
[21:59] <_Neytiri_> and the dvd drive works fine and the disk is good
[21:59] <oxicarus> ty guntbert i'll head in there :)
[21:59] <Ose> I need some partitioning help. I want to install 10.10 while keeping win7 (64bit), but the instalation wizard thingy has changed somehow since last tim (10.04 and vista 32bit). What do I need to specify on the partitioning menu? I have three ntfs devices and one fat32. Just hitting install now tells me I need to define a root system from the partitioning menu (which I don't know where is)
[21:59] <zcat[1]> whatever happened to soundcards with hardware midi synthesizers? Do they still make those?
[21:59] <R33D3M33R> no, I just want to know if it works, because im planning on moving to meerkat
[22:00] <Jane_uk_> guys... when i boot my laptop, i get the grub then....
[22:00] <quant_> R33D3M33R, yes, works even better than in 10.04
[22:00] <alf_daderfield> Hello?
[22:00] <alf_daderfield> anyone here?
[22:00] <R33D3M33R> excellent, thatnk you for this information
[22:00] <quant_> R33D3M33R, np, good luck
[22:00] <Jane_uk_> modprobe fatal: could not load 2.6.35.22 generic
[22:00] <Jane_uk_> but then it loads
[22:00] <Jane_uk_> how can i get rid of this fault
[22:01] <guntbert> alf_daderfield:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:01] <LaithBSoul-kun> idky but i have no audio in a fresh install of 10.10
[22:01] <stodertoad> anyone know the best way to downgrade from 10.10 to 10.04
[22:01] <quant_> stodertoad, none
[22:01] <erUSUL> !downgrade
[22:01] <zcat[1]> LaithBSoul-kun:  It's muted by default... you unmuted it?
[22:01] <MegaHerz> How to disable a button on a keyboard?
[22:02] <R33D3M33R> pull it out :)
[22:02] <adrian15b> mbn_18: I was refering to xvfb but I mis-remembered it, that's not what you are looking for. Probably you want to try with vesa xorg server, I once saw a vga xorg server on a pxes installation but that's an old history
[22:02] <district> hi. is anybody using an ati 48xx card in ubuntu?
[22:02] <stodertoad> but my system is broken from upgrading
[22:02] <fcn> are there any torrent links for netbook edition or will I need to download it via http?
[22:02] <R33D3M33R> district: I use hd 4670
[22:02] <mbn_18> adrian15b: thanks
[22:03] <MegaHerz> Why Ubuntu help is sooooo slooooow?
[22:03] <quant_> stodertoad, if you clearly define the problem, someone might help you repair it
[22:03] <district> R33D3M33R: how well supported is it? full 3d acceleration?
[22:03] <LaithBSoul-kun> no im not that dum i have no sound at all i'm no noob but i can't seem to fix it
[22:03] <R33D3M33R> district: on Lucid Lynx, everything works nice
[22:03] <MegaHerz> Ubuntu help system takes about 1 minute to start...
[22:03] <DeadPanda> Hey, having some serious RAID-related issues on a newly installed 10.10 system - looks like initramfs isn't including the correct driver for my RAID controller and it's crashing to a prompt on first-boot
[22:03] <zcat[1]> LaithBSoul-kun:  did it work on a previous ubuntu? lspci | pastebin ?
[22:03] <stodertoad> yeah i get a purple screen and no desktop after a fresh upgrade to 10.10 from 10.04
[22:03] <adrian15b> stodertoad: If your system has a /home partition you can just install Ubuntu 10.04 and keep /home partition without formmating
[22:03] <R33D3M33R> district: but don't expect windows framerates
[22:03] <tripelb> guntbert, this is one of two htops http://imagebin.ca/view/ONEqHQ.html
[22:03] <LaithBSoul-kun> yes
[22:04] <R33D3M33R> atleast not in all games
[22:04] <foul_owl> erUSUL: thanks!
[22:04] <district> R33D3M33R: i've ran the livecd on this particular machine before and it works fine by default (proper resolution etc.), but have never tested the 3d.
[22:04] <siberius3> hey, I'm trying to get my linksys ae1000 to work with ubuntu 10.10, and well, it doesn't.
[22:04] <petsounds> am i the only one getting problem with audio playback with rhythmbox and totem in maverick?
[22:04] <stodertoad> okay
[22:04] <district> R33D3M33R: well i'm not expecting to play games on it, but proper acceleration would be nice :)
[22:04] <siberius3> It worked with 10.04, in fact I'm on 10.04 with it now on a different computer.
[22:04] <Stereocaulon> petsounds, which Soundcard/ chip are you using?
[22:04] <Mrokii> Hello. Can somebody tell me how I can tell Ubuntu to use the proper mousedriver for my mouse? At the moment, only one mousebutton works and there is an entry for a "macintosh mouse" in /etc/proc/input/devices".
[22:04] <R33D3M33R> district: livecd has opensource drivers, many say they work better as closed source
[22:04] <siberius3> What do I do? Ndiswrapper doesn't and traditionally hasn't worked with it, and the Ralink driver won't compile correctly.
[22:05] <guntbert> tripelb: I guess its the fine flashplayer, what happens when you kill chrome from there?
[22:05] <R33D3M33R> and they are constantly improving
[22:05] <district> R33D3M33R: yeah somebody else told me something similar
[22:05] <zcat[1]> haha, I think I might stick with 10.04 -- sounds like Ubuntu didn't test as well as they should've rushing to make the 'cool' 10/10 release date..
[22:05] <erUSUL> siberius3: what chip? most ralink chips work ok with free drivers
[22:05] <petsounds> Stereocaulon, its onboard
[22:05] <sebsebseb> Hi
[22:05] <R33D3M33R> district: for me, closed source drivers work ok
[22:05] <stodertoad> yeaqh don't upgrade yet 10.10 is defective
[22:05] <quant_> zcat[1], 10.10 fixed about 10 times more problems than it created, and none of the new problems were unsolveable
[22:05] <quant_> zcat[1], for me
[22:06] <tripelb> guntbert, this is two of two http://imagebin.ca/view/P9nJ_fI.html  --- what do you mean fine flashplayer. what means kill chrome from "there". what is there?
[22:06] <LaithBSoul-kun> zcat[1] http://pastebin.com/v1uy9ZH8
[22:06] <kyentei> zcat[1]: For what reason? If you're not experiencing any issues on 10.10.. why stick with 10.04? Everybody always has some issues, lots of them are easily solved. At least try a live CD or something.
[22:06] <adrian15b> stodertoad: I would try CTRL
[22:06] <Stereocaulon> petsounds, just try:  lspci | grep -i audio
[22:06] <bake> hey there fellas, got a question
[22:07] <petsounds> Stereocaulon, intel ich7 ac97
[22:07] <stodertoad> CTRL what alt-delete?
[22:07] <zcat[1]> kyentei:  well I had mostly already decided, I need to stop upgrading every six months, that's why LTS's exist ;)
[22:07] <bake> Is it possible to dual boot a mac with ubuntu? Like install it with bootcamp?
[22:07] <Mrokii> Or can somebody tell me how I can remove the "macintosh mouse button emulation" that is shown when I use "xinput list"?
[22:07] <stodertoad> i restarted several times and same screen
[22:07] <Ose> I need some partitioning help. I want to install 10.10 while keeping win7 (64bit), but the instalation wizard thingy has changed somehow since last time (9.10 and vista 32bit). What do I need to specify on the partitioning menu? I have three ntfs devices and one fat32. Just hitting install now tells me I need to define a root system from the partitioning menu (which I don't know where is)
[22:07] <tripelb> guntbert, I'm sorry I dont understand. I'm not being difficult just dont want to go playing. Chrome often has shockwave crash.
[22:07] <biesbjerg> smbclient -L biesbjerg-media gives me this error: protocol negotiation failed: ERRnomem
[22:07] <biesbjerg> Any ideas?
[22:07] <kyentei> zcat[1]: Ah, may I ask why you need to stop upgrading?
[22:07] <adrian15b> stodertoad: I would try CTRL+ALT+F1, CTRL+ALT+F2, CTRL+ALT+F7 or CTRL+ALT+F8 to see if any message is hidden by the graphical purple screen
[22:07] <tensorpudding> bake: pretty sure it can be dual-booted, but not with bootcamp
[22:08] <bake> how would I go about doing it?
[22:08] <R33D3M33R> OSe: make an empty partition in windows 7
[22:08] <tensorpudding> bake: wait, my bad, you can
[22:08] <R33D3M33R> and install on that
[22:08] <guntbert> tripelb: one of the niceties of htop is that you can interactively kill processes, so if you move the "cursor" to the line with "chrome" and press F9 you can kill the process
[22:08] <R33D3M33R> or you can use some partition shrink programs
[22:08] <bake> sweet, I'm wanting to kinda dabble in linux
[22:08] <Jordan_U> bake: Just boot the Ubuntu CD and install it. You don't need to do anything with boot camp.
[22:08] <menschmaschine> Hey there
[22:08] <siberius3_> erUSUL: I'm not sure what the chip name is
[22:09] <speedrunnerG55> happy gnu linux day
[22:09] <tensorpudding> bake: it's not officially supported though
[22:09] <MegaHerz> How to disable a button on a keyboard?
[22:09] <guntbert> menschmaschine:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:09] <guntbert> !ot | speedrunnerG55
[22:09] <erUSUL> siberius3_: pci card? « lspci | grep -i net »
[22:09] <zcat[1]> kyentei:  I waste too much time upgrading systems that already do everything I need just to get a few fancy pointless new features that I don't..
[22:09] <menschmaschine> I do indeed
[22:09] <bake> how would I choose which one I'll use if I do that? Between OSX and Ubuntu?
[22:09] <kyentei> zcat[1]: Okay, then suit yourself ^_^
[22:09] <siberius3_> erUSUL: one sec, have to go check that for you.
[22:09] <bake> I wouldn't think it would be supported...
[22:09] <Stereocaulon> petsounds, a little bit more specific please, just give me the full line that lspci put on the screen
[22:09] <zcat[1]> kyentei:  But I will probably grab an ISO have have a play anyhow...
[22:09] <seyfarth> Anyone else not able to use vmware player post-10.10 upgrade?
[22:09] <LaithBSoul-kun> zcat[1]: http://pastebin.com/32hWYmGZ
[22:10] <Mathuin> How do I mount NFS drives on the new Ubuntu Netbook Edition?  I'm looking for something other than editing /etc/fstab directly, some nice GUI way.  Help?
[22:10] <bake> this place is bumpin, holy crap
[22:10] <petsounds> Stereocaulon, when i press the previous button or add new audio track my computer is freeze. 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[22:10] <menschmaschine> Is there any way to somehow carbon copy a boot disk to a FireWire hard drive and to boot from that?
[22:10] <jeffreyf> hello - trying to go to 10.10 from 10.04 and I get the error 'E:Couldn't configure pre-depend openoffice.org-common for openoffice.org-report-builder, probably a dependency cycle.'
[22:10] <siberius3_> erUSUL: no wait, what am I saying, it's usb
[22:10] <Mathuin> menschmaschine: have you tried Startup Disk Creator?
[22:10] <siberius3_> erUSUL: so, it would be lsusb? I tried this earlier, but I didn't see anything that looked like the chip name. I guess I can give you the output for it.
[22:10] <erUSUL> siberius3_: « lsusb » ? « sudo lshw -C Network »
[22:10] <Mathuin> If your computer can boot from the external hard drive, that should make the external hard drive a boot disk for you.
[22:10] <zcat[1]> LaithBSoul-kun:  yep, that's a bit odd. Intel stuff is usually well supported. Someone here will help, I'm not an expert ;)
[22:11] <menschmaschine> Oh, I forgot: without any Ubuntu yet
[22:11] <Ose> R33D3M33R: Thanks, i'll try that
[22:11] <menschmaschine> So, I didnt try Startup Disk Creator
[22:11] <Mathuin> menschmaschine: what operating system do you have?
[22:11] <menschmaschine> OS X
[22:11] <sorsis> i want to install java vm. howto?
[22:11] <quant_> seyfarth, try this: echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope
[22:11] <Jordan_U> ! java | sorsis
[22:11] <menschmaschine> OS X 10.6.4 to be precise
[22:11] <quant_> seyfarth, then run vmware
[22:12] <zcat[1]> well actually no, I'm just feeling too lazy to help today ;)
[22:12] <erUSUL> sorsis: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:12] <Mathuin> menschmaschine: have you tried the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and just changing them to point at your external hard drive?
[22:12] <Stereocaulon> petsounds, do you see anything special in /var/log/messages when you get that error?
[22:12] <quant_> seyfarth, this: echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope then vmware, try that
[22:12] <LaithBSoul-kun> I'm no noob but i have no audio in 10.10 this is my audio controller http://pastebin.com/32hWYmGZ
[22:12] <LaithBSoul-kun> please help
[22:13] <jeffreyf> hello - trying to go to 10.10 from 10.04 and I get the error
[22:13] <jeffreyf> 'E:Couldn't configure pre-depend openoffice.org-common for openoffice.org-report-builder, probably a dependency cycle.'
[22:13] <LaithBSoul-kun> anyone?
[22:13] <arose> I would like to know which idiot decided that it might be a good idea to disable to option to not encrypt my home folder
[22:13] <arose> And how do I install normally...
[22:13] <arose> ?
[22:13] <menschmaschine> I only tried the http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download — part 2 — from USB Stick — on a Mac — stuff
[22:13] <zcat[1]> someone help LaithBSoul-kun; Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio I guess lsmod and/or cat /var/log/messages next
[22:13] <menschmaschine> Trying your suggestion right now, cheers
[22:14] <adrian15b> jeffreyf: Humm... Maybe you should try to update your system and then upgrade to 10.10.
[22:14] <LaithBSoul-kun> damn this blows
[22:14] <R33D3M33R> LaithBSoul-kun: did you raise volume on all channels?
[22:14] <petsounds> Stereocaulon, there are plenty file and folder in /var/log. which one bro?
[22:14] <test_> hi folks
[22:14] <unomi> hmm, why is askubuntu being promoted?
[22:14] <LaithBSoul-kun> yes like i said i'm no noob
[22:14] <DeadPanda> LaithBSoul-kun: look on the bright side, working system in 10.04.1 won't even boot in 10.10 here O.o
[22:14] <mom> rayan3
[22:14] <test_> i have a Problem with installing Ubnuntu Netbook remix
[22:14] <test_> Is someone around here which could help me
[22:14] <menschmaschine> Mmmmh, doesn't seem to be working from OS X
[22:15] <siberius3_> erUSUL: OK... right now, lsusb is just hanging, and control-c won't even end it. I've been getting some bizarre error with external media, like it's not recognizing when stuff gets ejected and sometimes doesn't recognize CDs/USBs I put in... I'm going to reboot to see if lsusb starts working.
[22:15] <Jordan_U> arose: The default is to *not* encrypt the home directory, I don't know why you think otherwise.
[22:15] <R33D3M33R> LaithBSoul-kun: even in alsamixer?
[22:15] <rkenned> is there any nice simple way to get a script to run in each subdirectory of the current directory?
[22:15] <arose> Jordan_U: Because it is selected and greyed out, that's why
[22:15] <Jordan_U> arose: Screenshot?
[22:15] <LaithBSoul-kun> yes thats is where i did it and made sure to un mute everything
[22:15] <Stereocaulon> petsounds, I do believe I referred to a specific file, namely /var/log/messages
[22:15] <arose> I know it's not the default, but there is some broken ass functionality that tries to be smart on my system
[22:15] <Mathuin> menschmaschine: the actual OS X instructions there do not work for you?
[22:15] <IdleOne> !language | arose
[22:16] <arose> Jordan_U: Sure, let me start the install
[22:16] <mom> salut
[22:16] <R33D3M33R> LaithBSoul-kun: do you have multiple sound cards?
[22:16] <markboston> what is the ubuntu off topic room?
[22:16] <IdleOne> !fr | mom
[22:16] <petsounds> Stereocaulon, oops sorry. should i pastebin it?
[22:16] <DeadPanda> rkenned: find . -type d -execdir '...' \;
[22:16] <menschmaschine> Mathuin: you mean the actual instruction from where? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick ?
[22:16] <LaithBSoul-kun> no just integrated
[22:16] <boss_mc> !ot | markboston
[22:16] <wingless> i upgraded to 10.10, now X doesn't start. it's stuck after "Checking battery state [OK]". why would this happen?
[22:16] <arose> IdleOne: I tend to be in a foul mood when my existing install has been wiped and I can't install sanely, but thanks for the warning
[22:16] <DeadPanda> rkenned: that may well execute from the _parent_ of the target directory though, haven't tried it myself.
[22:17] <Stereocaulon> Just the last few lines that have bearing on the error you are getting
[22:17] <mom> quelqu un parle francais
[22:17] <Jordan_U> !fr | mom
[22:17] <test_> My problem is that i createt a sd card with the usb-creator but if i start from it with my eeepc there is a line of Syslinux 3.82 but nothing more happens
[22:17] <IdleOne> mom: tape /join #ubuntu-fr
[22:17] <rkenned> DeadPanda:  I'll see how it goes.  It won't hurt anything if it runs in directories it isn't supposed to.
[22:17] <Stereocaulon> petsounds, try this on your terminal: tail /var/log/messages
[22:17] <Mathuin> menschmaschine: yes.  ... oh crap, dude, it says you can't do it there. :-(
[22:17] <jeffreyf> adrian15b, system is always up to date.  The downloads finished, then the error
[22:17] <R33D3M33R> LaithBSoul-kun: do you have pavucontrol (Pulse audio volume control) installed? Did you check settings there?
[22:18] <rkenned> DeadPanda:  Thanks a ton.
[22:18] <DeadPanda> rkenned: np's,
[22:18] <adrian15b> jeffreyf: Hummm
[22:18] <DeadPanda> rkenned: "find" comes in very handy (damn mac keyboard)
[22:18] <LaithBSoul-kun> i do not should i install it then
[22:18] <menschmaschine> Yep. I didn't lose too much time trying it :-P
[22:18] <mom> ubuntu-fr
[22:18] <test_> I have a problem with the univesal usb installer too
[22:18] <petsounds> Stereocaulon, ok here you go http://pastebin.ca/1958884
[22:18] <gilaniali> if I change my hostname in /etc/hostname, does that mean to ssh into the sever, i will have to use this name?
[22:18] <test_> i cant select im iso
[22:19] <satonio> hi
[22:19] <siberius3_> erUSUL: OK, the command you gave me wasn't running when copied and pasted, so here is all of lsusb http://www.pastie.org/1211804
[22:19] <adrian15b> jeffreyf: You know... you can try this work around... before upgrading uninstall openoffice... after upgrading install it
[22:19] <test_> it just does not show up
[22:19] <twinkie_addict> after watching the room for a wile i think i'll stay with 10.4 at the very least till nest lts
[22:19] <siberius3_> erUSUL: I guess it is RT2870
[22:19] <R33D3M33R> LaithBSoul-kun: yes, install it and check settings there. Sound is pretty messed up in latest versions
[22:19] <LaithBSoul-kun> alright
[22:19] <mom> salut a tous
[22:20] <Paolone> hi
[22:20] <satonio> sometimes when i'm in a folder and i start typing, it selects the file/folder that starts with what i have typed, but sometimes not. when do it happen?
[22:20] <Jordan_U> twinkie_addict: Watching the support channel gives a heavy BIAS toward people having problems.
[22:20] <jeffreyf> adrian15b...was thinking that - will do. and let you know
[22:20] <LADmaticCA> after booting from a usb. i get a boot: is there a way i can set "nomodeset"
[22:20] <erUSUL> siberius3_: lsmod | grep rt28
[22:20] <adrian15b> gilaniali: If you connect from other computer probably your computer won't as a name server (bind) based on hostname... so the answer is probably: NO
[22:20] <Mathuin> twinkie_addict: one might think life was rather risky if one hung out in an emergency room. :-)
[22:20] <lunks> Ok, the nice Plymouth Ubuntu logo splash screen just doesn't work here. Using Nvidia drivers. What should I do?
[22:20] <adrian15b> gilaniali: * won't act as a name server
[22:21] <velociostrich> Does anyone know how I can load another FVWM script from my main FVWM configuration file? Like if I have menus in another file? My google-fu on this has been weak.
[22:21] <Mathuin> lunks: are you using nouveau or proprietary drivers?  I have seen folks who have problems with proprietary use nouveau as a workaround.
[22:21] <Jordan_U> Mathuin: I think I may steal that phrase :)
[22:21] <twinkie_addict> true but 10.10 still apears to need some bug testing and update i guess is what im saying
[22:21] <spaceman> lunks, why don't you just remove it
[22:21] <Mathuin> velociostrich: I used to do that (FVWM script) and I always had to go back to the man page and system examples to figure it out.
[22:21] <Paolone> can someone help me with builx.xml ant file?
[22:21] <siberius3_> erUSUL: returns nada
[22:21] <vipul> hy i wants to install virtual OS
[22:21] <Paolone> in private I think it's better.
[22:22] <gilaniali> adrian15b: so changing the hostname is just a convenience issue? i can still log into the server using user@originaldomain.com ?
[22:22] <vipul> which one is good for ubuntu
[22:22] <lunks> Mathuin, I'm using proprietary. I can't change it because I'm running Starcraft II on Wine. :)
[22:22] <Mathuin> lunks: dunno what to tell you.  that's a huge concern for me as I run Civilization V that way.
[22:22] <Mathuin> but I haven't updated that box yet.
[22:22] <Cojage> so
[22:22] <Paolone> I think that the better one is VirtualBox
[22:22] <Cojage> any bugs
[22:22] <Cojage> on 10.10
[22:22] <Cojage> or is it good to go
[22:23] <lunks> Mathuin, is it working fine?
[22:23] <sebsebseb> Cojage: bugs on any OS pretty much
[22:23] <sebsebseb> Cojage: bugs in nearly any software
[22:23] <Cojage> well
[22:23] <Cojage> really bad bugs i mean
[22:23] <Paolone> vipul,
[22:23] <Mathuin> lunks: that box is still running 10.04 and Wine 1.3 and it is working fine.
[22:23] <sebsebseb> Cojage: nope
[22:23] <Stereocaulon> petsounds, sorry for the confusion, it's probably kern.log that you should be following, not messages.
[22:23] <Cojage> okay good :>
[22:23] <Paolone> Virtual box
[22:23] <sebsebseb> !notes | Cojage
[22:23] <tripelb> guntbert, ok I'll put that in a save file
[22:23] <lunks> Mathuin, I'm planning on buying it, but haven't seen some nice AppDB reviews on Wine website about it.
[22:23] <Paolone> ok?
[22:24] <Braber01> I'm having a skype problem.
[22:24] <arose> Jordan_U: http://imgur.com/M9GLz&2dJP3&tWfVUl
[22:24] <Mathuin> lunks: the only things I notice are a) the intro video doesn't display, and b) there's a too-many-open-files problem which is easily worked around with ulimit.
[22:24] <arose> In all its broken glory
[22:24] <vipul> yes
[22:24] <Braber01> I keep getting Window's Alert Messages Even though I'm on Ubuntu
[22:24] <Cojage> hm
[22:24] <Braber01> WTF is up with that?
[22:24] <vipul> virtual box i need to install
[22:24] <Cojage> wiki ubuntu timing out
[22:24] <Cojage> prob. too busy
[22:25] <sebsebseb> !language | Braber01
[22:25] <unomi> http://ubuntu.shapado.com/
[22:25] <sebsebseb> Braber01: Windows  alert messages?
 that didn't work but i can see my line in levels from my xbox 360 but no sound at my speakers and i've tried multiple speakers and in the headphone jack but nothing
[22:25] <siberius3_> this is ridiculous.
[22:25] <siberius3_> My wireless card worked fine with 10.04.
[22:25] <Jordan_U> arose: Does it stay grey after you enter a username and password, (which also will ungrey the "next" button)?
[22:25] <siberius3_> How the hell do you mess something like that up so hard?
[22:26] <Stereocaulon> sebsebseb, Ah, you're back, long time no see, but I haven't ben on the channel lately, so that is only natural
[22:26] <arose> Jordan_U: Yes
[22:26] <lunks> Mathuin, ulimit? I don't want to bother you with a problem I don't have yet, is there a website you can lead me to where I can find out how to make it work?
[22:26] <sebsebseb> siberius3_: other distros, stuff like that doesn't tend to happen,   I mean upgrade to a later version of the distro and hardware stops working.  Ubuntu well upgrade to a later version of the distro, and yes it happens sometimes.
[22:26] <erUSUL> siberius3_: sorry; got distacted do « sudo modprobe rt2870sta »
[22:26] <sebsebseb> Stereocaulon: I don't remember you
[22:27] <tripelb> I dont remember how to turn off COMPIZ ?
[22:27] <petsounds> Stereocaulon, np at all, here you go http://pastebin.ca/1958894
[22:27] <MrStein> 10.10 gnome live: middle button no longer pastes in gnome termial. Is this a change by design?
[22:27] <brad_> hey, my wireless isn't working, it's an ar5001 and ubuntu loaded ath5k drivers, which don't seem to work, ndiswrapper supports this chipset, i guess just install it?
[22:27] <francisca> ver irc.gnome.org
[22:27] <arose> Jordan_U: Like this http://imgur.com/3ae1k
[22:27] <soreau> tripelb: sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects>None
[22:27] <Nix> ntu-br
[22:27] <Stereocaulon> sebsebseb, We had a long talk about the future of Ubuntu, the commercialization and all.
[22:27] <arose> And as you noted, it isn't normally the default
[22:27] <ssd532> how can I remove the whole indicator applet thing?
[22:27] <R33D3M33R> LaithBSoul-kun: hmm, sorry, then i cant help, maybe you should post at ubuntuforums
[22:27] <sebsebseb> ssd532: oh
[22:27] <sebsebseb> Stereocaulon: oh
[22:28] <xangua> ssd532: yes
[22:28] <LaithBSoul-kun> okay thanks anyways
[22:28] <siberius3_> erUSUL: OK, that gave me back a prompt with no errors
[22:28] <Mathuin> lunks: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=21465&iTestingId=57452 -- there's a link in there on how to fix your ulimits.
[22:28] <arose> Which is why it's all the more frustrating that someone thought that it ever should be defaulted to
[22:28] <Jordan_U> arose: You haven't entered a password in that screenshot.
[22:28] <erUSUL> siberius3_: iwconfig shows now a wlan0 interface?
[22:28] <tripelb> soreau thanks. it only made windows wiggle when I moved them - kind of disconcerting actually.
[22:28] <menschmaschine> Oh, I guess I’m just gonna try and borrow a USB stick or something, thanks for your help guys
[22:28] <Stereocaulon> sebsebseb, I don't blame you there are so many people around and I haven't been exactly active on the channel lately.
[22:28] <Mathuin> menschmaschine: good luck!
[22:28] <sebsebseb> Stereocaulon: I think if we spoke before, you used another name
[22:28] <lunks> Mathuin, thanks! :)
[22:28] <menschmaschine> Cheers
[22:28] <velociostrich> Mathuin: guess I have to read through the man page again, ugh... btw, I thought I saw that in one of the examples but went to look at it again and didn't see it
[22:28] <Mathuin> lunks: any time!
[22:29] <sebsebseb> Stereocaulon: also I haven't been useing this channel much lately :)
[22:29] <Mathuin> velociostrich: I gave up FVWM when I gave up FreeBSD, so I don't have any of my old notes or I'd help. :-(
[22:29] <siberius3_> erUSUL: no, just lo and eth0.
[22:29] <arose> Jordan_U: I wish it was that simple, this is the second time I'm doing it (just for the screenshots, woo) http://imgur.com/2xdkn
[22:29] <Stereocaulon> sebsebseb, I think I did use this name, but my first ever ever username I used on this channel was Matreya6
[22:29] <amagee> hey i'm trying to upgrade to 10.10 from 10.04 using the instructions here: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade, but in step 5, there is no "Upgrade" button.
[22:29] <JabeEnergy>   /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER JabeEnergy dxnjbsqqkjup
[22:29] <JabeEnergy> damn
[22:30] <erUSUL> siberius3_: and « dmesg | tail -n25 » shows any obvious error?
[22:30] <Paolone> how can i do a build.xml ant file that include libraries that I use in my program?
[22:30] <arose> And I doubt it's messing with me cause I have a short password either ;)
[22:30] <erUSUL> JabeEnergy: allway do that in the server window ;P
[22:30] <Paolone> do you have examples?
[22:30] <ljsoftnet> can i ask someone to video chat with me, with google talk?, just wana test my microphone and webcam
[22:30] <xer0> anyone know when the wubi installer for 10.10 will be available?
[22:30] <familia> i have problems with wine
[22:30] <amagee> should i just do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[22:31] <velociostrich> Mathuin: well, thanks anyways -- I started using FVWM because of the speed, and now that I have a fast machine I use it because I detest the ubuntu themes :)
[22:31] <Paolone> what kind of problems?
[22:31] <arose> And if I remember right turning the encryption off is royal pain too
[22:31] <Mathuin> velociostrich: that's why I used it, bare speed under stuff like VNC.
[22:31] <floating> i screwed up! I installed lubuntu10.10 to my notebook that had XP on it. it isntalled grub and it had xp entry there. Now when I booted up lubuntu, I went to edit the boot file to make XP default. I did it by editing 7etc/default/grub or such, after I edited the value i ran 'update-grub' as suggested. Now when I boot up, the file only contains the ubuntu entries :o i didnt take backup
[22:31] <arose> So I'm really between a rock and a hard place
[22:31] <Paolone> I think that deleting .wine dir
[22:31] <Paolone> you can resolve a lot of problems
[22:32] <chus225> Hi all
[22:32] <jiohdi> floating, is it grub or grub2?
[22:32] <arose> The best I find is someone on the forums deleting all of his encrypted stuff, not an option here, besides, I'm installing with a different user name
[22:32] <siberius3_> erUSUL: here is the full output -> http://www.pastie.org/1211820
[22:32] <familia> my proble with wine is... when i running ".exe", wine not make nothing
[22:32] <floating> jiohdi: grub2 afaik. ubuntu10.10 fdefault
[22:32] <Stereocaulon> velociostrich, if you turn off all graphical enhancements of Compiz, VNC will run fast enough.
[22:32] <arose> So there really is no excuse to grey it out
[22:32] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | floating
[22:33] <ljsoftnet> can i ask someone to video chat with me, with google talk?, just wana test my microphone and webcam
[22:33] <xer0> i might be confused but it seems like the current wubi release is for 10.04.1
[22:33] <amagee> the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades also don't work, as in step 8 there is still no "Upgrade" button
[22:33] <Guest48288> Hi seems as though my video card doesnt work with amd64
[22:33] <chus225> I have a doubt. I have a notebook and I don't know if It is better install the netbook version or the other one
[22:33] <arose> So, anyone know who I can thank for this overly smart, broken installer feature?
[22:34] <Stereocaulon> familia, there are lot's of reasons why Wine can't run a certain program. If the program is really old, you might be dealing with a DOS .exe instead. If so, use Dosbox instead
[22:34] <sebsebseb> chus225: the netbook version
[22:34] <arose> I'd submit a bug report if I knew someone would read it...
[22:34] <erUSUL> siberius3_: nothing looks wrong ...
[22:34] <DeadPanda> chus225: that's probably down to preference; maybe try both in a VM?  I always prefer the desktop UI to the crippled netbook UI
[22:34] <siberius3_> erUSUL: Do I need to restart after using the modprobe?
[22:34] <orudie_> how do i make a file executable from shell ?
[22:34] <sebsebseb> chus225: DeadPanda  the netbook version in 10.10 has Unity a new netbook interfac,e which can't just be tried in a vm
[22:34] <Jordan_U> arose: If you submit a bug report someone will read it.
[22:34] <DeadPanda> sebsebseb: why not?
[22:35] <sebsebseb> DeadPanda: since what it uses mutter, same thing Gnome Shell will use for Gnome 3
[22:35] <siberius3_> I've got to go, I'm going to be on later if I can't figure it out :/
[22:35] <Stereocaulon> orudie_, just set the excute bits of that program
[22:35] <DeadPanda> sebsebseb: soo... it depends on a working 3D-card?  Wise choice...
[22:35] <stuNNed> orudie_: chmod +x file
[22:35] <arose> Jordan_U: Well, I mean someone who will actually do something instead of marking it Won't Fix after asking for irrelevant information
[22:35] <Guest48288> My nvidia drivers work with i386 but not amd64???
[22:35] <erUSUL> siberius3_: no; there is no need. do « sudo modprobe -r rt2870sta »
[22:35] <remicarreiro> what do you guys recommend for installing Ubuntu alongside Mac OS X?
[22:35] <sebsebseb> DeadPanda: if the  card isn't there it will say about that
[22:36] <sebsebseb> DeadPanda: and desktop version can be used
[22:36] <arose> Jordan_U: I need someone who knows this feature and what FS bit to nuke to fix this
[22:36] <sebsebseb> DeadPanda: I mean if there is no default support
[22:36] <DeadPanda> sebsebseb: I'll stick with MeeGo for now then
[22:36] <arose> Jordan_U: Not a random triager
[22:36] <chus225> But both versions have the same characteristics????
[22:36] <sebsebseb> DeadPanda: yeah MeeGo looked pretty nice from what I seen, but not tried.  I am acstaully trying Unity right now though :D ,but on a desktop and with Lubuntu
[22:36] <Jordan_U> arose: Random tiager's are there to direct bugs to the correct developers, among other things.
[22:37] <sebsebseb> chus225: go with the netbook version, if you can't just  run its new interface though, it will tell you, and then you can use the other
[22:37] <familia> can y help me??? i want install msn in mi ubuntu with xfce
[22:37] <arose> Jordan_U: I wish...
[22:37] <familia> trough wine
[22:37] <sebsebseb> !msn | familia
[22:37] <arose> Jordan_U: I get "does it work now" once a month
[22:37] <sebsebseb> familia: emesene
[22:37] <DeadPanda> Heh, great, alternate installer's failing to setup the initramfs properly for the RAID on my XPS 8100.  Will the desktop installer behave differently, or should I just give up now?
[22:38] <Funhouse> hi there, how do i upgrade in the console?
[22:38] <sebsebseb> familia: is a good alternative, so  are AMSN and Kmess
[22:38] <remicarreiro> how can i get Ubuntu running alongside Mac OS X?
[22:38] <naptastic> I've started synchronizing my computer to an Internet Time Server, and now my computer is reporting GMT as my current time. I've selected my timezone correctly; how do I fix this?
[22:38] <familia> i know
[22:38] <Memnoch> change your time zone.
[22:38] <Funhouse> how do i upgrade to 10.10.10
[22:38] <Jordan_U> arose: If you wish to debug and solve your problem I can help you. If you only wish to rant then this is the wrong place.
[22:38] <familia> but my brother like "original"
[22:38] <IdleOne> Funhouse: sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:38] <Funhouse> IdleOne thank you
[22:38] <naptastic> Memnoch, was that for me?
[22:39] <arose> Jordan_U: I'm here, I have whatever info the live CD will give me
[22:39] <amagee> IdleOne: i just tried that and it says "No new release found"
[22:39] <IdleOne> Funhouse: you might need to install update-manager-core
[22:39] <chus225> Ok, thank you. I'll try the netbook version.
[22:39] <remicarreiro> how can i get Ubuntu running alongside Mac OS X?
[22:39] <MohammedYassin> hi
[22:39] <MohammedYassin> guys i need help
[22:39] <xer0> i know how to remove grub entries by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst, but is there a way to prevent the old ones from being kept every time i install a kernel update
[22:39] <IdleOne> amagee: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal
[22:40] <Funhouse> IdleOne No new release found
[22:40] <Funhouse> :(
[22:40] <arose> Jordan_U: But I will not go through this ten times when a triager asks me if I put in the password a week later, because I will have manually disabled the encryption and moved on with life
[22:40] <Funhouse> still at 10.4
[22:40] <Jordan_U> arose: I'm trying to reproduce the bug in qemu right now.
[22:40] <FloodBot1> Funhouse: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:40] <IdleOne> Funhouse: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal
[22:40] <zer000000> is somebody using funambol? i just installed it but only get this here  http://pastebin.de/10648
[22:40] <Linux_Lord> I upgraded to 10.10 and now google chrome don't start up
[22:40] <MohammedYassin> anybody here to help me?
[22:40] <amagee> ah, there we go.  thanks IdleOne.. not impressed with the docs.
[22:40] <arose> Jordan_U: I did a virtualbox install earlier on
[22:40] <IdleOne> amagee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades
[22:41] <Funhouse> IdleOne that worked! thank you
[22:41] <IdleOne> both welcome :)
[22:41] <SeRVeR01> MohammedYassin: what's wrong ?
[22:41] <arose> Jordan_U: Worked like a charm, it's something that's hanging on in the harddrive
[22:41] <Funhouse> WARNING: Failed to read mirror file
[22:41] <MohammedYassin> i just installed ubunto 10.10 on my pc
[22:41] <arose> Jordan_U: No hidden files, so that's out
[22:41] <MohammedYassin> dual boot with win 7
[22:41] <amagee> IdleOne: i read that.. it only mentions the line you said for "servers"
[22:42] <amagee> so most people wouldn't see i
[22:42] <amagee> t
[22:42] <L551> I clicked "remove from Panel" on the driver installer icon, and it came back as a rectangle with an X in it, and I can't make it go away
[22:42] <gilaniali> is there a way to revert a server to some previous configuration?\
[22:42] <MohammedYassin> the problem is when the installer asked me to choose a swap partition i choosed a 180 GB that stores all my data
[22:42] <arose> Grrr... wish I could at least cancel the install
[22:42] <zer000000> does somebody use funambol?
[22:42]  * DeadPanda grumbles about regressions
[22:43] <naptastic> MohammedYassin, if the installer formatted that drive as swap, the data on that drive is GONE.
[22:43] <Guest48288> Is it possible my video card doesnt work on 64
[22:43] <SeRVeR01> MohammedYassin: ops looks like u lost ur data =/
[22:43] <Jordan_U> arose: Are you installing over a previous Ubuntu install? I heard about a feature that mad the option to preserve /home more discoverable. If you are using that it may require encryption because that's what your current home directory uses.
[22:43] <Eighteens> so anyone got 10.10 up and running? I want to see some screenshots
[22:43]  * naptastic wonders if 10.10 looks any different at all from 10.04... probably, I suppose?
[22:43] <arose> Jordan_U: My current home directory has been moved out of the way and does not use encryption
[22:43] <DeadPanda> Eighteens: define "up and running".  I can photograph the initramfs I've been dumped to...
[22:44] <sebsebseb> arose: you can cancel an Ubuntu install, but then the partitin you installed on, wil be a bit messed up
[22:44] <Tashia> I am running 10.04, How do I network upgrade?
[22:44] <SeRVeR01> Eighteens,  let me upload some screens xD
[22:44] <edbian> Eighteens, ed@beethoven:~$
[22:44] <arose> sebsebseb: Too late for that, had to kill a dedicated install
[22:44] <Eighteens> DeadPanda, just making small talk, i want to see if the desktop looks differnt by default
[22:44] <sebsebseb> Tashia: by default 10.04 only shows LTS, but you can get it showing 10.10
[22:44] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | Tashia
[22:44] <DeadPanda> Eighteens: and I'm just being grumpy, nm :)
[22:44] <arose> Jordan_U: at least not the whole folder, I have the Private folder there
[22:45] <sebsebseb> Tashia: also if you download now, you might get a slow download, since the amount of other people using the repos
[22:45] <arose> Jordan_U: I specifically do a fresh install to avoid upgrade problems...
[22:45] <Eighteens> deadpanda, that was me last night, after trying to burn a dvd, and failing four times with brasero, finally installed k3b and walla, the first time the dvd worked, so i know what you mean about grumpy
[22:46] <RayStone> anyone using a Lenovo Ideapad?
[22:46] <Jordan_U> arose: What do you mean by "moved out of the way"?
[22:46] <arose> Jordan_U: arose -> arose-lucid
[22:47] <uberspaced> I thought that dding a .iso to a usb stick and configuring a box to boot off of it would be enough to get the thing to boot off of the usb stick
[22:47] <arose> Jordan_U: In short, no there is no encrypted "arose" folder that needs encryption preserved
[22:47] <uberspaced> but I have a new acer one netbook, and it's uh, not happening.
[22:47] <arose> The installer is acting smarter then it should, that's all
[22:48] <bl01zk> uberspaced: do u have the netbook version of linux installed on yours?
[22:48] <Jordan_U> arose: Ahh, but it's still in /home/. This would still be a bug, but a much more understandable one. Try moving it out of /home entirely, or otherwise ensuring that the installer won't see it as an existing user's directory that need to be preserved.
[22:48] <uberspaced> bl01zk: no; I have something like 8.04 running on another machine that I used to dd the iso to the usb stick
[22:48] <uberspaced> bl01zk: I do want to get the netbook version installed though ;)
[22:49] <arose> Jordan_U:  /home/ is a partition, and most definitely not encrypted
[22:49] <arose> Jordan_U: There is nothing understandable about not creating a new, unencrypted user just because there might be (but isn't) another user that uses encryption
[22:50] <bl01zk> uberspaced: yah i have the netbook version of ubuntu on my netbook and the normal version of ubuntu... i like the normal one better... i don't like how to interface is set up for netbook version
[22:50] <uberspaced> bl01zk: I assume that the netbook version has a kernel compiled appropriately for the arch / processing abilities
[22:50] <Rigorm0rtis> Hello. I have a question about upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10 from 10.04. I currently have Grub 1.0 installed to one of my partitions (because Grub 2 that comes with Ubuntu doesn't support this). When I try to upgrade to 10.10, will Grub 1 be replaced with Grub 2?
[22:51] <uberspaced> I don't really use a window manager except to get a terminal ;)
[22:51] <sebsebseb> Rigorm0rtis: no it won't :)
[22:51] <arose> Jordan_U: "Moving" /home might as well be a complete wipe
[22:51] <Jordan_U> arose: If any one user uses ecryptfs then the swap partition needs to encrypted. It may be that it's simply all lumped together "If there is any PAM enabled ecryptfs to preserve then require a password, encrypt swap, ..."
[22:51] <hitmonleezy> i've been running 10.10 beta for the last week or so. if i've been keeping up w/updates, i'm in the clear, correct?
[22:51] <Rigorm0rtis> sebsebseb, thanks. I just wanted to make sure.
[22:51] <sebsebseb> !final | hitmonleezy
[22:52] <bl01zk> uberspaced: Yah it got rid of the bottom bar like normal Ubuntu does to help with running it better since netbooks don't nearly have the amount of power it a normal computer does... but my netbook is running normal version perfectly fine atm.
[22:52] <sebsebseb> hitmonleezy: sure, but do you see the new font in Gnome?
[22:52] <arose> Jordan_U: Sure, encrypt the swap do whatever
[22:52] <sebsebseb> hitmonleezy: in Ubuntu?  I mean I put on the RC yesterday and did all the updates, but I don't seem to see it in Ubuntu hmm
[22:53] <arose> Jordan_U: However even that isn't the case "arose-lucid" doesn't use home folder encryption, nothing there does
[22:53] <myke5161> Hey all, I upgraded to 10.10... Its working just fine and I really like the new Ubuntu font
[22:53] <Jordan_U> arose: Again, I'm not claiming it's not a bug. But it is also not a trivial corner case to deal with, both logically and in the U.I.
[22:53] <myke5161> seems to be working well on one of my old computers
[22:53] <wingless> X doesn't start after upgrading to 10.10. From /var/log/Xorg.0.log: "No kernel modesetting driver detected." "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration."
[22:53] <Jordan_U> arose: You said it had an encrypted .Private directory, correct?
[22:54] <arose> Jordan_U: Yes I do, but no, it is real easy. Create a new user, that's all I want
[22:54] <xadras> hi
[22:55] <hitmonleezy> sebsebseb: no i tweaked the settings early on, is there a way to revert to original settings?
[22:55] <SeRVeR01> Eighteens,  here u are http://yfrog.com/9gselection001j
[22:55] <posey_home> 10.10 running super slow for anyone? i have very high "Sys" usage, system monitor shows my cores getting thrashed pretty bad with no processes running over 5%, this is on a clean install
[22:55] <arose> Jordan_U: I dread to think what would happen if I let it do it's thing over the existing, unencrypted folder
[22:55] <sebsebseb> hitmonleezy: not sure about that, but I think in development, the font had to be enabled, so  I wonder about now
[22:55] <oHgoDubuntU> maverick: support video thumbs down, uninstalling pulseaudio thumbs down, looks great thumbs up.. reinstalling ubuntu 10.04.. :(
[22:55] <hitmonleezy> ah, i do see the new ubuntu font
[22:56] <sebsebseb> hitmonleezy: for everything?
[22:56] <hitmonleezy> sebsebseb: yep. very understated and elegant
[22:56] <ironcamel> anyone know how to get the md5 hashes for the new 10.10
[22:56] <ironcamel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes doesn't seem to have them
[22:56] <arose> Jordan_U: Unless you are saying that unencrypted and encryped home folders can't coexist...
[22:56] <Poul|Raider> Hello, anyone who can tell me where to download the mosmlc ? need to compile an sml file to an exe file i can execute on windows
[22:56] <trism> sebsebseb: it was only automatically enabled for Desktop and Window Title fonts (at least for me)
[22:57] <oHgoDubuntU> ubuntu font thumbs up
[22:57] <Jordan_U> arose: To be perfectly blunt, you do not understand the complications involved. If it's easy then please submit a patch and maintain/test the separate code path for this corner case.
[22:57] <sebsebseb> hitmonleezy: maybe its since I copied a load of files in from  the home of  the user I was using on another distro before putting 10.10 RC on, that has something to do with, how it doesn't seem to be showing
[22:57] <gouranga> during installing debian i overwrote my ubuntu mount point. how can i boot ubuntu again?
[22:57] <sebsebseb> so I should try with a new user account, to see if it shows or not really, but not done that yet
[22:58] <Jordan_U> arose: Untill you have done that, it is rude to malign the developers, whose task you do not understand.
[22:58] <sebsebseb> trism: well at least I got Unity :)  on a desktop
[22:58] <trism> sebsebseb: glad to hear it is working for you now
[22:58] <arose> Jordan_U: To be blunt, you haven't given any actual reasons. And having a .Private folder and wanting to keep it is not a corner case, it was an install option a few releases ago
[22:58] <sebsebseb> trism: oh you saw me mentioning it earlier or something?  I had to enable it, that was all
[22:59] <arose> Jordan_U: I understand perfectly because I had to recover from this mess last time around
[22:59] <Jordan_U> arose: As for working around the problem, you will likely have to do it manually, or you may have better luck with the alternate install CD (though the two share a lot of code).
[22:59] <ploc> someone can help me with cinelerra? my files are opened but without audio, and the preview is lasy
[22:59] <oHgoDubuntU> ploc, need some pc upgrade?
[23:00] <walkman> when will the update manager ask to upgrade to maverick?
[23:00] <sebsebseb> trism: no I don't have font yet,  I might with a clean  new user
[23:00] <sebsebseb> walkman: by default 10.04 only shows LTS releases, however you can upgrade
[23:00] <arose> Jordan_U: Meaning, I know perfectly well that creating a new, unencrypted user doesn't hurt anything, in fact, given how encryption is done, it can't
[23:01] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | walkman
[23:01] <walkman> thanks
[23:01] <sebsebseb> walkman: your welcome :)
[23:01] <ploc> ohgoDubundtU, i think this problem is in software because in the PiTi program running normally
[23:02] <Jordan_U> arose: I never claimed that it did, and I don't have the time or motivation to explain why this is a corner case. Please either submit and maintain a patch or trust me that it is non-trivial.
[23:02] <uerceg> my dell inspiron 1525 is running around 50-60 celsius with CPU temp. any idea why?
[23:02] <Maeth> why hath linux forsaken me?  I upgraded to 10.10 and now grub REALLY hates me.  I get into a grub rescue shell that i fear because i never seem to be able to do anything in it.
[23:02] <john> so is there any difference between 10.10RC and the official version?  Do i need to upgrade again?
[23:03] <walkman> im running the netbook version of ubuntu, does maverick have a netbook release?
[23:03] <armor-64> hi i have a problem with the nvidia driver!after installing the driver i cant see what windows i have in the panel!please help
[23:03] <avo> Hey, is there any way of showing the output of a terminal command on my desktop?
[23:03] <marekw2143> hi, I cliked "move to trash" on gnome, but can't see trash on the bottom panel
[23:03] <sebsebseb> Maeth: not Linux's fault, and Ubuntu isn't the only Linux distribution/distro :)  anyway yeah Grub 2 can be a pain.  uhmm this might be helpful
[23:03] <marekw2143> adding trash  makes no efect - trash icon isn't added to panel
[23:03] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | Maeth
[23:03] <Jordan_U> Maeth: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[23:03] <marekw2143> how to remove files moved to trash, from console?
[23:04] <owner> I just reinstalled Xubuntu, and I forgot how to fix my sound driver to work with it. It doesn't play sound right now. I recently fixed it last time I had xubuntu. (Which was like earlier today, before I reinstaleld due to my Windows XP dual boot messing up. Anyways. Can anyone help me with fixing my sound? ITs ATI Technologies Inc sound card or driver. Last time I Had to do a terminal code adn restart and it worked.
[23:04] <arose> Jordan_U: If there was an easy way to modify the installer I wouldn't be here, I'd uncheck the box and move on with the install because I know perfectly well that it works
[23:04] <Maeth> really if money goes towards anything, donation wise, it should be a bootloader
[23:04] <Cojage> lol maeth
[23:04] <Cojage> whats up?
[23:04] <avo> Maeth, What's wrong with grub...
[23:04] <dogmatic69> hey everyone, got a quick question
[23:05] <Ryen> !ask | dogmatic69
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Maeth: yes its a fault of  Grub 2 or Ubuntu, but not the Linux kernel :)
[23:05] <avo> Ryen, Beat me to it :)
[23:05] <somethingelse> I'm guessing someone else here has found at least some of the problems with the current nvidia driver and 10.10, I just upgraded today and the version included with the release is unbelievably slow, but the nvidia-current driver results in a "no screens found" result and me being dumped at the console.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[23:05] <Ryen> avo: :P
[23:05] <ironcamel> can someone tell me the md5 hash for ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[23:05] <Maeth> Both my machines are hating me right now, so trying to fix grub, but also just going to burn a live usb so that i can just raw install
[23:05] <bl01zk>  what do i  need to do if when i boot up it goes to grub and not to the boot up menu?
[23:05] <Cojage> somethingelse, what kind of problems with nvidia drivers? Could you post a link?
[23:05] <Maeth> sebsebseb, oh yes, i think i learned something about that, it's gnu i hate not linux, right?
[23:05] <dogmatic69> running a intel q8200 quad core 2.33ghz, over clocked to abotu 2.7ghz but in system monitor it only shows 2.33. bios shows the 2.7 though
[23:05] <Cojage> maybe i shouldnt upgrade
[23:06] <dogmatic69> any reason for that?
[23:06] <Maeth> well, not all gnu
[23:06] <KenBW2> Is anyone aware of a fix for the init not found error when booting from USB?
[23:06] <bau> hi all can somebody tell me how to enable desktop effects with my Nvidia Geforce 6100? it says: Could not enable Desktop Effects...
[23:06] <RabidLockerGnome> Hey guys, after changing to 10.10, my laptop will only output sound via HDMI. Intel audio chips built in. Any ideas?
[23:06] <armor-64> hi i have a problem with the nvidia driver!after installing the driver i cant see what windows i have in the panel!please help!it's a desktop pc!
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Maeth: I hate?
[23:06] <Jordan_U> bl01zk: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Maeth: oh
[23:06] <judgen> Can i adjust system wide bass and treble somehow?
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Maeth: no Grub 2 isn't really part of the GNU project so its not GNU
[23:06] <Cojage> pulseaudio?
[23:06] <Maeth> sebsebseb, i mean whoever made grub, although it's probably just tough to make something that works on everything
[23:07] <somethingelse> Cojage, if I enable graphic acceleration it grabs version 173 by default (which is horribly slow especially with Docky), but if I try to upgrade through the additional drivers dialog to the current version it gives me a "no screens found" error upon booting and drops me at the console
[23:07] <sebsebseb> Maeth: and Grub 2 is mainly used in Ubuntu, Debian, and distros based on Ubuntu or Debian, in  fact a lot of other distros including Fedora even, which is  a bit more cutting edge than Ubuntu, still use the old version, because the developers belive it is more stable and relible
[23:07] <Cojage> oh
[23:07] <Cojage> why would it grab 173
[23:07] <sebsebseb> Maeth: personally I much prefer the old version, and get no advantage from Grub 2
[23:07] <Cojage> youre on 10.10 right somethingelse?
[23:08] <oHgoDubuntU> copying amr files from phone in storage mode failed in 10.10, works perfectly with 10.04, thumb down 10.10 fix it pls
[23:08] <Maeth> sebsebseb, so you can avoid grub 2 altogether?
[23:08] <sebsebseb> Maeth: so if you want to blame someone,  blame the developers of Grub 2, or even Ubuntu/Debian developers for doing it
[23:08] <somethingelse> Cojage, yeah, it has two options in the additional drivers dialog, it selects the 173 version by default, so I tried to upgrade to the current and it resulted in the "no screens found" problem
[23:08] <cyphase> whaaaaat, maverick is released? i haven't been following it the last few months.. this seems early. and it's not thursday
[23:08] <sebsebseb> !info grub-legacy
[23:08] <Cojage> hm, weird
[23:09] <ironcamel> can someone tell me the md5 hash for ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64.iso or tell me where i can get it
[23:09] <sebsebseb> Maeth: I think the old version will be in the 10.10 repo, but if so, you probably can't just install and use it
[23:09] <Cojage> on 10.04 it didnt pick 173 did it
[23:09] <Maeth> i never liked lilo, but it's starting to look better than all this down time im having
[23:09] <oHgoDubuntU> !info skype
[23:09] <edbian> cyphase, It's released on 10/10/10 it's version 10.10
[23:09] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks. Anytime I hit Fn+F2 on my laptop, thus disabling wireless, I can't reenable it without a restart. Anybody know how to fix this - or, alternatively, how to disable the key combination?
[23:09] <somethingelse> Cojage, not sure what it picked, but current definitely worked in 10.04, and the graphics were much faster (so I'm guessing current is much more recent than 173)
[23:09] <arose> Jordan_U: In short, wipe your data, I'll keep that in mind then
[23:09] <cyphase> edbian, yea, i know, just surprised me, as i haven't been following it like i usually do
[23:09] <Cojage> yeah
[23:09] <sebsebseb> Maeth: you could install 9.04, and then upgrade, to 10.10, whilst still keeping Grub 1
[23:09] <vipul> can i install more then 1 OS as virtual OS
[23:10] <Cojage> another reason why i shouldnt update on the first day :P
[23:10] <Maeth> sebsebseb, sounds great, if i can't get this to work i'll do that on both machines
[23:10] <thechitowncubs> Hey, I'm having trouble installing my second hard drive.
[23:10] <somethingelse> Cojage, I like to encounter all the first adopter problems :)
[23:10] <thechitowncubs> I can't get it to mount at boot.
[23:10] <vipul> can i install more then 1 OS as virtual OS
[23:10] <thechitowncubs> Can someone help?
[23:10] <flybyray> hello, i need help for installing ubuntu 10.10 from cd. i use fake raid from ati sb600. 10.04 can boot from CD but 10.10 doesnt
[23:10] <Cojage> haha
[23:10] <vipul> can i install more then 1 OS as virtual OS
[23:10] <eboyjr> Can I SSH into my server and install Ubuntu Server somehow? Or would it be too complicated?
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Maeth: and there are plenty of great alternative distros out there as well, that still use Grub 1 :)
[23:11] <shauno> eboyjr: what's the server running at the moment?
[23:11] <rupok> hello i installed ubuntu 10.10 with wubi. How do I browse my windows files from ubuntu?
[23:11] <dxdemetriou> grub will not be upgraded with release upgrade, right?
[23:11] <thechitowncubs> rupok, Places
[23:11] <eboyjr> shauno: Ubuntu server 10.04
[23:11] <arose> Who knew that "installing with default option" was a corner case these days?
[23:11] <sebsebseb> dxdemetriou: Grub 1 won't just get replaced by Grub 2
[23:12] <oHgoDubuntU> are nvidia 173 drivers working ok in ubuntu 10.10?
[23:12] <sebsebseb> dxdemetriou: Grub 2 will update itself in each Ubuntu version though
[23:12] <eboyjr> shauno: I was thinking of maybe using the openssh server off the livecd perhaps?
[23:12] <rupok> i cannot see my windows hard drive
[23:12] <satonio> sometimes when i'm in a folder and i start typing, it selects the file/folder that starts with what i have typed, but sometimes not. when do it happen?
[23:12] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: for me Nivida driver seems to be working fine
[23:12] <rupok> it shows me system reserved and file system
[23:12] <vipul> can i install more then 1 OS as virtual OS
[23:12] <rupok> remember this is wubi install
[23:12] <sebsebseb> vipul: virtual machine?
[23:12] <shauno> eboyjr: you should be able to upgrade straight from .04 to .10, without the livecd
[23:12] <vipul> yes sebsebseb
[23:13] <vipul> virtual OS i mean
[23:13] <Maeth> Help me Jordan_U, you're my only hope! http://paste.ubuntu.com/510420/  get that to him r2d2
[23:13] <sebsebseb> vipul: virtual OS?
[23:13] <vipul> i mean virtualbox
[23:13] <sebsebseb> vipul: yes
[23:13] <eboyjr> shauno: I just want a fresh install since I already installed a lot of crap
[23:13] <sebsebseb> vipul: you can have mroe than one virtual machine with that
[23:13] <vipul> more then 1 ? can i
[23:13] <vipul> hummm
[23:13] <sebsebseb> vipul: yep as long as you got enough hard disk space for that, which I expect you do
[23:13] <vipul> ok
[23:13] <vsd20c> I'm looking for ubuntu server administration guides opposed to development, anyone have any recommendations?
[23:13] <sebsebseb> vipul: as for running two or more at the same time though, that would depend on how much RAM you have
[23:13] <Auv5> Why's +1 +i?
[23:13] <oHgoDubuntU> sebsebseb, yeah, i turned the pc... and bang after turning it on no more borders for windows, had to switch the driver off, i then uninstalled the driver and reinstalled it.. problem not fixed no more emerald reason nr1 why i'm switching back to 10.04
[23:14] <vipul> like 500gb ram
[23:14] <sebsebseb> Auv5: since Maverick is released now
[23:14] <Auv5> Oh.
[23:14] <eboyjr> shauno: I mean I could install normally, but it would be better for me not to have to hook up a monitor
[23:14] <Auv5> I forgot ;)
[23:14] <sebsebseb> Auv5: it will open again when theres something proper when it comes to 11.04
[23:15] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: uh that didn't make sense, be more specific
[23:15] <arose> Or maybe the corner case here means "we just dindn't think of this at all, because hey, who keeps there home folder around for 4 releases"
[23:15] <shauno> eboyjr: not sure what options exist for a headless install.  you might want to try #ubuntu-server tho, there's bound to be people in there that have come across that
[23:15] <mankeletor> hi all, do somebody know how can i restore my default .bashrc?
[23:15] <arose> In /home no less
[23:15] <eboyjr> shauno: Thanks
[23:15] <rupok> after installing ubuntu 10.10 with wubi I cannot seem to find the place for my windows files. I checked in places, My computer lists 500gb system reserved and file system as mounted.
[23:16] <sebsebseb> rupok: host > places or something I think,  I don't use Wubi by the way
[23:16] <cyphase> lol, under games, supported software: minecraft
[23:16] <sebsebseb> cyphase: there are quite a lot of good games for Linux distros, just got to know about them
[23:16] <oHgoDubuntU> sebsebseb, exactly it doesn't make sense! why allofthesudden the video card is not working anymore, i guessed i turned of the computer in a certain way but hey, that shouln't wreck the whole video driver
[23:16] <DeadPanda> cyphase: <3 minecraft
[23:17] <Yerushalmi> Anytime I hit Fn+F2 on my laptop, thus disabling wireless, I can't reenable it without a restart. Anybody know how to fix this - or, alternatively, how to disable the key combination?
[23:17] <somethingelse> haha, I found a bug matching my description and it went from affects 15 people to 91 in the time I was just looking at it
[23:17] <rupok> ya without wubi it can be seen because you are installing in seperate partition but with wubi I cannot see the windows files
[23:17] <cyphase> sebsebseb, yes, i know, i've been using ubuntu since it came out :)
[23:17] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: can you repeate your issue?
[23:17] <Maeth> sebsebseb, shouldn't it be advertised more? since that's what pc users love to gloat about?
[23:17] <rupok> is there any way to fix that?
[23:17] <Doyle> What would cause a character to walk to the upper left corner of the screen on it's own. Happens in multiple games. Happens with different mice. No Keys are stuck.
[23:17] <cyphase> DeadPanda, i found it almost 2 weeks ago and have been playing almost non-stop
[23:17] <oHgoDubuntU> sebsebseb, video driver stop working and i have no reason why
[23:18] <oHgoDubuntU> when i loged in there wasn't any window border left
[23:18] <tjubaluba_> when doing command line search (ctrl+r) it seems it just searches in one direction. How do i goto start/end of command line history?
[23:18] <arose> First my problem is that I didn't enter a password and "that couldn't happen" then it's too complicated to even try to explain...
[23:18] <sebsebseb> Maeth: shoudn't what be advertised more?
[23:18] <oHgoDubuntU> had to switch off video card for the window metacity border to appear
[23:19] <Maeth> games you speak of
[23:19] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: oh after an upgrade from 10.04?
[23:19] <oHgoDubuntU> no, clean install
[23:19] <sebsebseb> Maeth: there is at least one Ubuntu gaming site that comes to mind, but I haven't been to it yet, or did I before once or something, no don't think so
[23:19] <sebsebseb> Maeth: anyway started by  those that do omgubuntu.co.uk
[23:19] <sebsebseb> Maeth: not sure the address right now, but was mentioend on there before
[23:20] <oHgoDubuntU> sebsebseb, what caused this i presume was when i had to restart my computer to log into windows to get amr files from my phone, that didn't work either in ubuntu10.10
[23:20] <oHgoDubuntU> and when i came back... surprise! no more shadows no more window borders
[23:20] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: not quite sure what your on about, but do a clean install mabye, also  WIndows and Ubuntu  don't just get effected by each other
[23:21] <arose> No Sir, Ibex wasn't an actual release with the feature to have "~/Private" you are imagining things
[23:21] <sandyd>  /msg nickserv identify vsa47.gf
[23:21] <rupok> sebsebseb how would I go to host > places. All i see is places in the taskbar. Is that where I am supposed to go to see windows files? I went there but cannot find it. Am i supposed to mount anything?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> sandyd: uhmm
[23:21] <Daekdroom> sandyd, you better change your password now
[23:22] <sandyd> ...
[23:22] <sandyd> dammit
[23:22] <linus_> after resuming form gnome-screensaver lock, my monitors are reversed. anything?
[23:22]  * swordz ghosts, changes nick, and changes pass...
[23:22] <sebsebseb> swordz: do it on the Freenode tab/window next time :)
[23:22] <sebsebseb> sandyd: ^
[23:22] <oHgoDubuntU> sebsebseb, i know that, and i did a clean install but after seeing all 10.10 shorthings i'll stick with ubuntu10.04 for now. it works great, even beter than mint9 (my personal opinion)
[23:22] <swordz> Do what there?
[23:22] <sebsebseb> swordz: identify
[23:22] <swordz> I think you meant that for sandyd
[23:22] <sebsebseb> swordz: yep
[23:22] <swordz> I've been identified for hours
[23:23] <Xuzz> Do I want mingw32 or gcc-mingw32? What's the difference?
[23:23] <sebsebseb> swordz: yes messaged you by mistake
[23:23] <Jordan_U> arose: I never said you needed to whipe your data. I said you would have to create a new user manually after install and set it up to use the home direcrory you moved out of the way.
[23:23] <sebsebseb> sandyd: you won't want to run that in a channel :)  and yeah get password changed, also IRC clients can be set up to auto identifiy :)
[23:24] <istvan> hey, i added a server favorite, and now i can't remove it. help?
[23:24] <oHgoDubuntU> sebsebseb, any major reason why one might need to upgrade to 10.10?
[23:24] <arose> Jordan_U: I don't want anything to use that home directory I just want a plain vanilla user and non-relevant files in /home left alone
[23:24] <sandyd> grrrr. I cant figure out how to auto identify in quassel
[23:24] <sebsebseb> sandyd: oh you left, and came back, did you get my message?    you won't want to run that in a channel :) and yeah get password changed, also IRC clients can be set up to auto identify :)
[23:24] <linus_> I dont think you can shop with 10.04
[23:25] <sebsebseb> sandyd: May I suggest a good alternative client for KDE?  well I will anyway, Konversation :)
[23:25] <sandyd> yeah, it seems you need to login and logout to do a pass change
[23:25] <arose> Just a plain install, that's all I've ever wanted
[23:25] <linus_> oh that was @ oHgoDubuntU
[23:25] <sebsebseb> sandyd: plus on that one I know how to auto identify and such :)
[23:25] <sandyd> sebsebseb: ill take me 1h to set it up though thats the problem
[23:26] <Jordan_U> arose: Then "mv /home/arose /home/notarealuser/this_should_make_the_installer_ignore_the_ecryptfs/arose"
[23:26] <oHgoDubuntU> linus_, i see, the music shopping, yeah that might be one reason in some countries
[23:26] <oHgoDubuntU> any reasons concerning kernel?
[23:26] <sebsebseb> sandyd: Konversation nah it won't,  probably about five minutes,  I can tell you how to set up the network :)  altough its pretty straight forward anyway
[23:26] <sandyd> sebsebseb: I use gentoo, not ubuntu
[23:26] <sebsebseb> sandyd: oh right well  still the same software
[23:27] <sebsebseb> sandyd: also they have a nice channel #konversation
[23:27] <rupok> i cannot see my windows files in places in ubuntu please help
[23:27] <arose> Jordan_U: Now that's a workaround, will try ASAP, remember, I don't know where the installer is looking for things, I was asking about that at the very beginning
[23:27] <linus_> I havent even seen music, I was refering to the dvd play. but I did pay a dollar for the test wallpaper last week
[23:27] <Jordan_U> Maeth: Is there any error message before you get the rescue shell?
[23:27] <sandyd> sebsebseb: takes time to download and compile since I emptied my source code cache yesterday. oh well.... here goes...
[23:27] <zer000000> i am trying out funambol but while synchronizing i get this error: unsupported transport type is specified in the configuration
[23:27] <linus_> If you hardware all functions there is really no kernel improvments.
[23:27] <zer000000> what does it mean?
[23:27] <Maeth> Jordan_U, i don't remember
[23:27] <sebsebseb> sandyd: ah yes thats a point, you got to compile loads of stuff on Gentoo
[23:28] <Maeth> Jordan_U, right now, i would settle for this situation i'm in right now, Getting 10.10 on a usb stick, so i can just do a clean install and hopefully be headache free...
[23:28] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: good question
[23:29] <Jordan_U> Maeth: Can you reboot and check? I'll be in and out for the next few hours so if you can just wait if I don't respond immediately.
[23:29] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: well I haven't seen the new font yet, but  the desktop version is a bit more polished than 10.04, and well the useual, later versions of apps
[23:29] <Yerushalmi> Anybody know how to disable the Fn+F2 wireless toggle key combination?
[23:29] <polleri> hi this may be a really stupid question but does anyone know how to remove the date from a conversation window in empathy? It is really anoying I think 10.04 had a better theme
[23:29] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: Unity the new netbook interface is nice really,  can run that on a desktop to.  However is there a major reason to upgrade to 10.10, like your asking, no not really.
[23:30] <polleri> or does anyone know where can i get a copy of the 10.04 theme?
[23:30] <polleri> for empathy
[23:30] <Jordan_U> Maeth: If you're using Startup Disk Creator from 10.04 make sure it's completely up to date or it won't make proper 10.10 setups.
[23:31] <Maeth> Jordan_U, that's why i'm trying to get 10.10 on the usb
[23:32] <linus_> @Yerushalmi System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts
[23:32] <Smilodonis> Hi, I have a notebook with net conn. from LAN. Also got wifi on it. I want to share my connection via the wifi as Ad-hoc connection. Is there an easy way to setup the "sharing"? I want to connect it with some Mobile devices. I did set up the Ad-hoc and enabled net sharing but it seems it's not working. Any ideas?
[23:32] <bl01zk> how do you see what version of ubuntu you are running?
[23:32] <h1n1> hey guys, appreciate if you could give me a hand here. just booted the 10.10 iso, reads 'input/output error - can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs'
[23:32] <zer000000> is really no one using funambol?
[23:32] <sebsebseb> !version |  bl01zk
[23:32] <sandyd> bl01zk: lsb-release
[23:33] <luisgrin> hi, i installed apache2 php5 and mysql 5 on ubuntu 10, they are working ok but not toguether, if i try to run a php scrip from the url, the browser download the script instead of runnih it
[23:33] <oHgoDubuntU> sebsebseb, needed to restart, ok, i'll give it anoter try to this 10.10 this time by upgrading (i didn't install video yet cuz that might cause some problems)
[23:33] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: uhmm
[23:33] <oHgoDubuntU> !upgrade oHgoDubuntU
[23:33] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: I answered your question, but you left soon after, so you may have not seen it
[23:34] <sandyd> luisgrin: post output of "cat /etc/apache2/avalible*" to pastebin
[23:34] <luisgrin> okay thanks ill do
[23:34] <Yerushalmi> linus_: Neither the key combination nor the appropriate command appear on that list...
[23:34] <Poul|Raider> when i do mosml file.sml it loads and works fine, if i try to compile it gives syntax error on first line with > load "TextIO";   the load .  anyone?
[23:34] <oHgoDubuntU> sebsebseb, there was soemthing about how polished the metacity theme is and i agree it really looks great
[23:34] <linus_> CCSM
[23:34] <sebsebseb>  oHgoDubuntU: good question
[23:34] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: well I haven't seen the new font yet, but  the desktop version is a bit more polished than 10.04, and well the useual, later versions of apps
 oHgoDubuntU: Unity the new netbook interface is nice really,  can run that on a desktop to.  However is there a major reason to upgrade to 10.10, like your asking, no not really.
[23:35] <oHgoDubuntU> sebsebseb, and the new font is great looking also
[23:35] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: thats what I thought, untill I tried it for real on here, not just vm
[23:35] <linus_> @Yerushalim run compize config settings manager
[23:35] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: probably helps with new font, but I haven't seen that yet
[23:35] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: Lubuntu looks pretty great though
[23:35] <sandyd> luisgrin: oops that was a typo, should be "cat /etc/apache2/mods-available"
[23:36] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: as for the font, you would hope so, considering that professional designners made it on Mac OS X
[23:36] <oHgoDubuntU> ok, now how do i do that upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 hopefully that produces a better result
[23:36] <Yerushalmi> linus_: How do I do that?
[23:36] <linus_> @blo1zk System>About Ubuntu
[23:36] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: really distros should have their artwork made with open source tools  whilst using that OS, I think
[23:36] <bmint> Just installed Ubuntu 10.10 it is seeing my secondary monitor as a 19" when it is 22".  Half of the screen is odd looking and not functional.  Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[23:36] <h1n1> i'm getting up to the ubuntu install boot screen but it bombs out shortly after with the busybox initramfs mount failure
[23:37] <oHgoDubuntU> !upgrade maverick
[23:37] <yohan14> what are the important security log files on a linux system? Like login date history, bash history, activity etc...
[23:37] <h1n1> any ideas?
[23:37] <luisgrin> luis1@Desarrollo:/etc/apache2$ cat /etc/apache2/available*
[23:37] <linus_> are you sure the font was made on a mac? it could have been easily done with inkspace, which is profesional grade
[23:37] <luisgrin> cat: /etc/apache2/available*: No existe el archivo o directorio
[23:37] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | oHgoDubuntU
[23:37] <sandyd> oHgoDubuntU: update-manager -d
[23:37] <arose> Jordan_U: Nope, it is either looking deeper or at somehting else
[23:37] <sebsebseb> sandyd: hows the Konversation compileing going :D ?
[23:37] <oHgoDubuntU> sebsebseb, thanks, i hope it gives better results than clean install, sandyd thx
[23:38] <fasta> Why does my sound (pulse) stop working during an upgrade?
[23:38] <sandyd> sebsebseb: about 50% done
[23:38] <fasta> Or more specifically only in browser plugins.
[23:38] <Jordan_U> arose: It may be looking at /etc/passwd or similar.
[23:38] <sandyd> fasta: wait until the upgrades done
[23:38] <sebsebseb> sandyd: ok nice
[23:38] <sandyd> fasta: then restart and run "pulseaudio -k"
[23:39] <fasta> sandyd, but there is no reason why my sound should not work for hours.
[23:39] <fasta> sandyd, you can also implement it such that it doesn't work for at most a second or so.
[23:39] <oHgoDubuntU> just a sec, the update-manager -d seems to say something about being a RC
[23:39] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU:  I think in this case maybe the command sandyd  gave wasn't quite right
[23:39] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: sandyd    the -d  bit means development
[23:40] <zer000000> who synchronizes his cell phone with ubuntu and how???
[23:40] <sebsebseb> oHgoDubuntU: you just need to tell 10.04 to show 10.10 as an upgrade
[23:40] <SilverFox> can I configure a server with a single interface to be a transparent proxy?
[23:40] <aeon-ltd> oHgoDubuntU: also don't expect *every* mirror to be holding 10.10 yet
[23:40] <Jordan_U> oHgoDubuntU: Your apt mirror is just not fully up to date. When it is up to date you won't need the "-d".
[23:41] <luisgrin> sandyd  i beg you pardon, but the command cat /etc/apache2/available* sends bo existe el directorio
[23:41] <eightball> hi help with Could not download all repository indexes
[23:41] <YiamiYo> hi...does anyone know if i can sort my contacts in empathy by protocol?
[23:41] <eightball> and update to 10.10 from 10.4
[23:42] <BFP> Hm, after installing maverick, I install fglrx with no errors, but trying fglrxinfo gives me a segfault. Has this happened to anybody else?
[23:42] <luisgrin> sandyd inside /etc/apache2 i see mods-avai;;; and site/avai... as folders
[23:42] <sebsebseb> eightball: probably since the amount of  other people using the repos
[23:42] <cutiyar> zer000000,wammu
[23:42] <sandyd> eightball: thats likely because the servers are overloaded
[23:42] <aeon-ltd> BFP: report as a bug
[23:42] <eightball> repos?
[23:42] <sebsebseb> !repos | eightball
[23:42] <eightball> ok
[23:42] <sandyd> luisgrin: my bad, should be "ls /etc/apache2/mods-avai*"
[23:42] <psycoborg> i upgraded from 10.4 to 10.10 and did the reboot, now it will not boot at all in to ubuntu ACK!!!
[23:42] <cutiyar> how i can connect to huawei modem?
[23:42] <BFP> Hm, what's the best way to report a bug if nothing crashes?
[23:43] <luisgrin> ahhh ok sandyd
[23:43] <Yerushalmi> Anybody know how to disable the Fn+F2 wireless toggle key combination on my laptop?
[23:43] <psycoborg> is there anyway to recover?
[23:43] <aeon-ltd> BFP: just say it segfaults and crashes the app
[23:43] <sebsebseb> psycoborg: won't boot at all, what happens exactly?
[23:43] <linus_> @psycoborg press escape to enter boot selection screen
[23:44] <shauno> cutiyar: hook it up, wait for the lights to stop flashing, then try the same icon you use to connect to wifi.  that's all mine took (hauwei e220)
[23:44] <eightball> is there i way to update from the dvd iso ?
[23:44] <psycoborg> im using a Dual boot system. and it says my fonts are missing, and then fails to load.
[23:44] <sebsebseb> eightball: only alternate can be used to update
[23:44] <psycoborg> and reboots.
[23:44] <rupok> what is the wubi help irc channel?
[23:44] <Smilodonis> Hi, I have a notebook with net conn. from LAN. Also got wifi on it. I want to share my connection via the wifi as Ad-hoc connection. Is there an easy way to setup the "sharing"? I want to connect it with some Mobile devices. I did set up the Ad-hoc and enabled net sharing but it seems it's not working. Any ideas?
[23:44] <luisgrin> sandyd:  now i get a lot of files ... also some php5.conf ...php5.load and no more about php
[23:44] <sebsebseb> rupok: this one
[23:44] <aeon-ltd> rupok: here if its ubuntu related
[23:44] <eightball> how to do that?
[23:44] <ugliefrog> omg i think gwibber is designed to make you mad
[23:45] <sebsebseb> eightball: no you get the updates from the Internet useualy, only in another way with proper reason
[23:45] <sebsebseb> useually
[23:45] <sebsebseb> ugliefrog: yeah?  why you think that?
[23:45] <eightball> ok i c
[23:45] <rupok> well i can't see my windows files as I mentioned earlier aeon-ltd do u know how to fix that?
[23:45] <psycoborg> i love my Ububntu, i want it to work again. im being forced to return to XP
[23:45] <rupok> there is drive related to windows this is being shown
[23:45] <eightball> so might be a few days to update to 10.10
[23:46] <mamece2> guys i have a problem with rhythmbox, it doesnt scrobble, it just said in the status of last.fm "logging in"
[23:46] <sebsebseb> ugliefrog: its diesnged for the "average consumer"  the social networking site generation,  thing is apparently the Facebook support might still be broken
[23:46] <arose> Jordan_U: found the last .ecryptfs, thanks! That actually worked
[23:46] <cutiyar> the problem is i dont know my model , i have already have modem e620 connected succesfully but couldnt connect
[23:46] <rupok> there is no drive
[23:46] <linus_> @psycoborg what options do you have on the grub boot screen?
[23:46] <ugliefrog> sebsebseb, Im still trying to get facebook to work...
[23:46] <Jordan_U> arose: You're welcome.
[23:46] <sandyd> luisgrin: sudo cp /etc/apache2/mods-avai*/php5.conf /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf
[23:46] <sebsebseb> ugliefrog: ok the support is apparently still broken, it used to work in 10.04, but then stopped working all of a sudden
[23:46] <psycoborg> nothing, it posts the error for about 1 tenth of a second then reboots.
[23:46] <sebsebseb> ugliefrog: I thought it had been fixed, but someone was mentioning it earlier else where in 10.10
[23:46] <sandyd> luisgrin:and "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
[23:47] <arose> Jordan_U: Now when can I come back after install rush to find out why it's so hard to tell full folder and ~/Private apart? I'm genuinely curious
[23:47] <mamece2> theres a lot of queue songs for scrobbling to last.fm, will i lose them if i close rhythmbox?
[23:47] <sebsebseb> ugliefrog: and quite a few people weren't happy when the support broke in 10.04
[23:47] <ugliefrog> sebsebseb, i c.....well 10.10.....i dont see anything thats diff except software center
[23:47] <Maeth> that was very strange, xubuntu 10.04 livecd wasn't recognizing my pendrive, but now it's all fine
[23:48] <sebsebseb> arose: well yeah,  and the themes have changed a bit, and a new font, and yep thats about it for the desktop version,  and then the stuff you don't just see, slightly later verisons of programs
[23:48] <linus_> @psycoborg you need to run a live disk to fix you install. are you dual booting with windows?
[23:48] <Blah2> hey all.  i just installed 10.10 desktop.  at first boot into desktop, it says i need to install drivers for my broadcom wireless, and i click to 'activate', and it gets errors in the log about being proprietary
[23:48] <sebsebseb> uh why did I send that to arose just now, instead of ugliefrog ?
[23:48] <Blah2> the weird thing is that during the isntallation GUI, i was able to use the wifi just fine
[23:48] <Blah2> any ideas?
[23:48] <Prez00> my 10.04 is not showing upgrade option?  did a check and nothing... do i need to do a update distro or something?
[23:48] <sebsebseb> ugliefrog: see above
[23:49] <sebsebseb> ugliefrog: netbook version gets Unity,  a new netbook interface, which can also be installed into desktop versions :)  using that righrt now in Lubuntu
[23:49] <aeon-ltd> Prez00: just wait till tommorrow for all mirrors to switch over
[23:49] <sandyd> Blah2: enable all your repos and install "bcmwl-kernel-source"
[23:49] <sebsebseb> ugliefrog: however yep thats about it really
[23:49] <Prez00> aeon-ltd, perfect
[23:49] <amendy> Heey Guys
[23:49] <zer000000> is somebody using funambol?
[23:49] <Blah2> what do u mean by enable all repos?
[23:49] <Blah2> i'm not familiar w/ ubuntu
[23:49] <Blah2> this is my first time using it.
[23:49] <Blah2> i know aptitutde command tho
[23:49] <FloodBot1> Blah2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:49] <ugliefrog> sebsebseb, Well thats kind of disappointing , but not for netbooks i guess
[23:50] <YiamiYo> does anyone know how can i sort my contacts in empathy by protocol?
[23:50] <blakkheim> Blah2: /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:50] <A_New_Server> Where are the fonts in Ubuntu? Like where are they stored?
[23:50] <luisgrin> sandyd> root@Desarrollo:/root# sudo cp /etc/apache2/mods-avai*/php5.conf /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[23:50] <sebsebseb> ugliefrog: ok so you watn to see something new aye?
[23:50] <Blah2> ok thx
[23:50] <luisgrin> cp: Â«/etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.confÂ» y Â«/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.confÂ» son el mismo fichero
[23:50] <sandyd> Blah2: System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[23:50] <blakkheim> luisgrin: why are you using sudo when you're already root?
[23:50] <amendy> does any one know how to use the Desktop Cube ?
[23:50] <aeon-ltd> !compiz | amendy
[23:50] <luisgrin> okay
[23:50] <sebsebseb> ugliefrog: like I was saying Unity can be run on the desktop version as well, only reason  I put on 10.10 actsaully, since not so keen on Ubuntu anymore, and other distros :)
[23:50] <Maeth> amendy, it's easy, get the compiz settings manager and the compiz fusion icon and then check back in
[23:50] <sandyd> luisgrin: php should now be comming up after you restart apache
[23:51] <mankeletor> does somebody know how to get ~/.bashrc back?
[23:51] <linus_> paste.ubuntu and to think ive been using pastebin all this time, I feel like a traitor
[23:51] <aeon-ltd> mankeletor: just create it
[23:51] <blakkheim> mankeletor: you can write your own, it's easy
[23:51] <ugliefrog> sebsebseb, osx or w7
[23:51] <sandyd> mankeletor: touch ~/.bashrc
[23:51] <linus_> @amendy turn on desktop effect edit compiz settings
[23:51] <Maeth> Anyone know where i can install a file on a startdisk so that i'll be able to access it when i use it?
[23:51] <eightball> how to mount a dvd iso?
[23:51] <sandyd> mankeletor: then add the rest in
[23:51] <sebsebseb> ugliefrog: I don't have either, both are probably about as good as each other really,  just  OS X is more secure as well
[23:52] <luisgrin> sandyd:  no, it does not work yet
[23:52] <luisgrin> i do localhost/~web
[23:53] <luisgrin> inside web i have index.php with only phpinfo()
[23:53] <mankeletor> sandyd, well i can add the aliases but i dont know about the bash completion part
[23:53] <flodine> help
[23:53] <Blah2> sandyd: it says bcmwl-kernel-srouce already installed and latest
[23:53] <amendy> how about the hot key ?!
[23:53] <sandyd> Blah2: then "modprobe wl"
[23:53] <linus_> @amendy CCSM
[23:53] <mamece2> theres a lot of queue songs for scrobbling to last.fm, will i lose them if i close rhythmbox?
[23:54] <Blah2> module wl1 not found
[23:54] <linus_> Compiz Config Setting Manager
[23:54] <luisgrin> sandyd: the php5.* are inside mod-en*
[23:54] <poutine> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2010-October/000139.html <- Massive circlejerkery in first paragraph
[23:54] <amendy> @Linus : i used it but i cant figure out how to use it
[23:54] <Blah2> that's in jockey log
[23:54] <eightball> how to mount a dvd iso?
[23:54] <blakkheim> eightball: man mount
[23:54] <luisgrin> i know php is working because i use in the command line
[23:54] <eightball> ok
[23:54] <eightball> how ?
[23:55] <blakkheim> eightball: open a terminal and type that
[23:55] <rjg_> I've totally lost my GNOME panel off my screen - help?
[23:55] <rjg_> I think I may have crashed it.
[23:55] <sebsebseb> !panels | this might help  rjg_
[23:55] <linus_> @amend turn on desktop cube and rotate cube in CCSM,
[23:56] <ubuntu> Apparently I can't add another primary, and extended is greyed out in gparted. How do I make another partition for 10.10 to reside in?
[23:56] <blakkheim> ubuntu: you can only have 4 primary partitions on a disk with MBR
[23:56] <sandyd> luisgrin: should be working correctly if your php is installed correctly. Since it is, plugin must be haaving problem. Remove and reinstall "libapache2-mod-php5"
[23:56] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: show a screenshot of gparted and i'll have a look
[23:56]  * oHgoDubuntU upgrading to 10.10
[23:56] <luisgrin> okay
[23:57] <rjg_> sebsebseb: I get this: gnome-pane: no process found
[23:57] <rjg_> =
[23:57] <sandyd> Blah2: its wl, not wl1
[23:57] <Maeth> god help you oHgoDubuntU
[23:57] <LinOS> changed nick to avoid confusion
[23:57] <mamece2> theres a lot of queue songs for scrobbling to last.fm, will i lose them if i close rhythmbox?
[23:57] <oHgoDubuntU> Maeth, lol
[23:57] <eightball> loading 10.010 in VM
[23:57] <tjubaluba_> when doing command line search (ctrl+r) it seems it just searches in one direction. How do i goto start/end of command line history?
[23:58] <linus_> @amendy rotate cube options, bindings, rotate cube
[23:58] <its101010> woooo look at all the pretty new users ^_^
[23:58] <LinOS> sebsebseb: I'm uploading a screenshot now
[23:58] <plitter> if I have installed a newer version of alsa and then upgrade will that alsa revert to default 10.10 alsa?
[23:58] <rjg_> sebsebseb: all fixed, thanks
[23:58] <sebsebseb> its101010: I thought there may have been like 1700 or 1800  people in this channel this time, but nope only been around 1600
[23:59] <Guest35740> where is a good place to learn about xchat??? any good urls?
[23:59] <mamece2> wow u arent helping...
[23:59] <LinOS> sebsebseb: http://imgur.com/au5Fq.png screenshot of gparted
[23:59] <sebsebseb> Guest35740: Xchat no thanks, I would rather use Konversation or  even IRSSI
[23:59] <sandyd> plitter: how did you install it?
[23:59] <Guest35740> im running bt4
[23:59] <Stereocaulon> sebsebseb, until another day! I'm going to bed now.