[05:57] <TheMuso> The hardest part about implementing a studio desktop based on LXDE/XFCE is theming. Packging/seed wise, its easy.
[05:59] <holstein> TheMuso: thats good to know
[06:07] <persia> What makes the theming hard?  Do we not have good examples from Lubuntu/Xubuntu?
[06:08] <persia> (mind you, I don't think most people would really see significant difference from an alternate DE, given how many libraries end up loaded with patchage+qjackctl anyway)
[06:22] <TheMuso> persia: Yeah we do have examples, but I haven't looked into it myself, and we would have to redo the theme from scratch, so far as window decoration etc goes.
[08:21] <TheMuso> c
[09:38] <persia> Ah, so it's volume-of-work difficult, rather than technically-difficult.  This makes sense.  All the more reason to not bother unless someone volunteers to maintain a theme for a while :)
[12:51] <sladen> scottl: et al  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/10.10release_notes  <<--- linked in the release notes is 404
[12:51] <persia> sladen, Plus, they read backscroll in the other channel: the redirect was intended for the future :)
[13:25] <ScottL> right, sladen, persia, i'll take care of it now
[13:27] <persia> ScottL, Thanks.  Also, BrendanT was pointing out that ubuntustudio.org needed an update.
[13:29] <ScottL> persia,  i was thinking about that yesterday (or the day before), i've never done that before and am unsure exactly how
[13:30] <ScottL> stochastic had always done it
[13:30] <persia> Dunno myself.
[13:30] <ScottL> my understanding is that it's all code under -devel, i'll send an email to eric and cory asking them for pointers and also dig around the code as well
[16:30] <holstein> rlameiro: morning
[16:31] <rlameiro> morning holstein :D
[16:31] <holstein> no VO yet :/
[16:31] <holstein> sorry
[16:31] <holstein> ill knock it out to day, or line up a different voice for you :)
[16:31] <holstein>          today*
[16:33] <rlameiro> :)
[18:09] <ScottL> hi holstein :)   what did tucemix want last night?
[18:09] <ScottL> holstein, oh, now i want to play live again...NOW :P
[18:10] <ScottL> i keep thinking about how i/we could improve also, different songs, rearranging songs, more cables, small table, yadda, yadda
[18:11] <ScottL> good new is that people liked the music, even when i didn't know the lyrics (i'm sure the crowd were saying them in their head), and this could be a recurring gig
[18:12] <holstein> ScottL: :)
[18:12] <holstein> hmmm let me see if i can find that
[18:12] <holstein> OH
[18:13] <holstein> tucemix didnt ever specify
[18:14] <ScottL> no biggie, just curious, he seemed to want to query me about ubuntu studio, but i was curious what he felt i could answer that you could not
[18:14] <ScottL> you probably have a better functional or working understanding of getting studio working in a production type setting
[18:59] <ScottL> crimsun, i had in the release notes that the user should not be in the audio group, as far as you know is this still necessary?  and why?
[19:00] <ScottL> i think it had to do with getting permission for using real time with jackd
[19:10] <holstein> ScottL: i need to make sure tucemix is on the mailing list and all that
[19:11] <holstein> he's been at it for a while now, he might a package suggestion, and not be getting the emails about where to put those
[19:13] <holstein> he was around the other day when someone was asking about getting http://gnomecoder.wordpress.com/luz/ added
[19:13] <holstein> the developer of luz studio
[20:47] <rlameiro> 101010
[21:28] <rlameiro> holstein: checking it now in kdenlive
[21:28] <rlameiro> then rendering it out
[21:34] <holstein> :)
[21:34] <rlameiro> rendering now :D
[21:35] <holstein> rlameiro: it'll work?
[21:36] <rlameiro> yeap
[21:36] <rlameiro> it nice and easy
[21:36] <rlameiro> its a little walk through
[22:12] <rlameiro> http://www.archive.org/details/UbuntuStudio10.10QuickAlternateInstallDemo
[22:12] <rlameiro> holstein: ScottL 
[22:15] <rlameiro> ScottL: is there some ubuntustudio youtube channel?
[22:16] <persia> I think there's some sort of general Ubuntu video distirbution forum: I'd suggest asking popey about it, if there isn't an Ubuntustudio-specific one.
[22:16] <rlameiro> ok
[22:17] <holstein> rlameiro: :)
[22:55] <ScottL> i had been thinking about a youtube ubuntu studio channel, if we had numerous videos it would be a nice link from the website and a great resource for users
[23:08] <rlameiro> ScottL: maybe an account managed by you, and people submit stuff to you
[23:09] <rlameiro> it wouldn need to be you, but someone responsible for that, to prevent uploading of wrong stuff
[23:09] <persia> There's infrastructure at videos.ubuntu.com that could probably be done in parallel (or leveraged directly)
[23:10] <rlameiro> well, maybe it could be implemented on the website
[23:10] <rlameiro> with some kind of html5 player or even a flashplayer
[23:11] <rlameiro> that would link to  videos.ubuntu.com
[23:23] <ScottL> thanks persia, i tend to forget about videos.ubuntu.com
[23:24]  * persia too
[23:24] <persia> But I do believe we ought share as much infrastructure as possible: there's just no way we can manage everything by ourselves.
[23:25] <persia> (Plus we get free advertising for our apps and workflows presenting in common fora)