[00:30] <frogonwheels> anybody got ideas how to force a mouse to redetect after sleep asside from unplugging / replugging?  It's a logitech mouse/keyboard  - keyboard works fine - but mouse doesn't
[00:30] <frogonwheels> I'm not sure if it's linux kernel or xorg that's the problem.. I've reloaded  hid_logitech/ushhid  modules
[00:32] <frogonwheels> ahh.. what's that program that sniffs /dev/input/ output?
[00:37] <frogonwheels> ok - it's the kernel :(  cat /dev/input/mice  and moving the mouse was 'uneventful'. Now that I've replugged it in, it's up and going.
[01:21] <zack`> sorry about that :.
[01:38] <sh1ft3d> is there any women in here, or is it a sausagefest of smart dudes?
[01:38] <moetunes> gender is irrelevant on irc sh1ft3d
[01:39] <BluesKaj> sh1ft3d, that's not a computer/linux question , do you have one ?
[02:01] <altecnetcard> Hello
[02:02] <altecnetcard> this is channel of Brazil?
[02:03] <moetunes> !pt
[02:03] <altecnetcard> thanks
[02:03] <moetunes> np :]
[02:06] <shadowhywind_> hay all, I just noticed in kmix that my only sound options are 'Internal Audio Analog Stereo' I'm missing my mic controls and all the others.. any ideas?
[02:08] <moetunes> shadowhywind_:  what options does   alsamixer   show in konsole?
[02:10] <shadowhywind_> moetunes: Master, PCM, S/PDIF , …., External Mix, Internal Mic.. all the options I expect to see
[02:11] <moetunes> shadowhywind_:  so the card is seen right - got the right one selected in kmix?
[02:11] <shadowhywind_> moetunes: didn't know I could select more then one.. how would I go about double checking?
[02:12] <moetunes> shadowhywind_:  does kmix say it is using the default one? - I'm not on a kde box atm to check its' options
[02:14] <shadowhywind_> moetunes: well going threw all the the options, It only seams to see just the 'Internal Audio Analog Stereo' even in the system settings-> Audio only sees the one
[02:15] <moetunes> shadowhywind_:  sounds like a kmix bug then - if you kill it you might get sound
[02:15] <moetunes> !bug
[02:16] <shadowhywind_> moetunes: thanks, will look into it a bit more . at least I know I can still get into alsamixer (completely forgot about that command)
[02:17] <moetunes> shadowhywind_:  it is a handy app to have around :]
[02:18] <shadowhywind_> moetunes: it is! On my previous laptops I had not but sound issues, but for the past year or two, I have had no problems at all and forgot the 'useful' commands, hehe
[02:18] <moetunes> heh
[03:01] <sobczyk> hi, I have a weird bug, when I have something selected in Kate, change focus then go back to kate, the selected text gets deleted, is there a way to fix it?
[03:02] <moetunes> ctrl+z should get it back
[03:02] <moetunes> !bug
[04:15] <leandrosansilva> Hello to all. Did anyone here installed kubuntu 10.10 via flash drive?
[04:15] <leandrosansilva> I've downloaded the i386 desktop iso, checked the md5sum and copied to flash drive via kubuntu 10.04 usb0disk-creator
[04:16] <leandrosansilva> but when I try to boot (I've tried in two machines) the boot loader says that the config file has an error
[04:19] <msl> I have heard that it is broken, but I haven't tried it myself.
[04:26] <leandrosansilva> msl: and do you know if are there any plans to resolve this issue?
[04:39] <msl> I don't know.  I just saw on osnews.com in the comments that someone was talking about the problem being discussed during beta/RC and not being fixed in the release.
[04:41] <leandrosansilva> msl: Have you installed this version of kubuntu? Do you know if a new installation from CD-ROM is working?
[04:41] <leandrosansilva> I haven't tried to run it from cd-rom
[04:41] <msl> I have installed both the beta and the release from cd and it was fine both times.
[04:46] <leandrosansilva> msl: thx
[04:53] <Agu10> hi
[04:53] <Agu10> I'm having problems to install kubuntu on my laptop from a pendrive
[04:53] <Agu10> a usb stick
[04:53] <Agu10> it says: "SYSLINUX 3.85 (...) H. Peter Anvin et al"
[04:54] <Agu10> and it stops there
[04:54] <Buutti> people have been saying that it's broken
[04:54] <Agu10> what should I do?
[04:55] <Buutti> can you install it from a cd/dvd?
[04:55] <Agu10> I'll have to burn it :(
[04:55] <Agu10> but yes
[04:55] <Agu10> is that the best way?
[04:55] <Buutti> at the moment, yes
[04:58] <Agu10> ok, thanks
[04:59] <Agu10> I'm new to KDE, where can I find a tutorial? or basic help & info
[05:00] <Buutti> http://docs.kde.org/
[05:01] <Buutti> and http://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=296078f642f3e66b797b107c537fb58a
[05:02] <Agu10> first one looks it's more for devs
[06:37] <a2f> hi, i'm getting an error when i try running apt-get build-dep mplayer. something about a certain file doesn't exist. can someone help?
[06:51] <a2f> can someone recommend a good kde usenet downloader?
[06:53] <moetunes> I think ktorrent is the only p2p kde app a2f
[06:56] <a2f> usenet not torrents :)
[06:56] <a2f> and it's not. transmission has a qt interface
[06:56] <moetunes> qt != kde tho
[06:57] <a2f> better than gtk right?
[07:04] <oldsmoky2> No sound with Kubuntu Netbook 10.04 Netbook on Toshiba NB205. I've spent a couple hours looking for answers online. Anyone have any ideas?
[07:06] <moetunes> oldsmoky2:  does it show in alsamixer?
[07:06] <oldsmoky2> Ummm... Ok... was asking about no sound problem.
[07:07] <oldsmoky2> have been looking for how to run alsa. Kmix shows no problem
[07:07] <moetunes> alsamixer shows the soundcards options dude
[07:08] <oldsmoky2> Sorry... I'm kind of new to this
[07:08] <moetunes> !sound
[07:14] <RadSurfer> 10.10 refuses to install properly, whether or not "3rd party packages" are selected!
[07:14] <RadSurfer> Whats going on!
[07:17] <RadSurfer> anyone else hearing/having similar reports 10.10 is not installing?
[07:18] <moetunes> the usb install has some issues I've heard
[07:18] <RurouniJones> RadSurfer: We are not psychic what does "refuses to install properly mean"
[07:18] <RurouniJones> i.e. Error messages, failure points
[07:19] <RadSurfer> "dsub /bin/dpkg" error some-such, packages can not be installed
[07:20] <RadSurfer> E:sub process /ust/bin/dpkg  returned error code (1)
[07:20] <moetunes> did you do the md5 on the iso and cd?
[07:21] <RadSurfer> I explicitly do not check install 3rd party, nor get updates
[07:21] <RadSurfer> since it is reported THAT creates an error
[07:32] <RadSurfer> http://pastebin.ca/1959108   <--- please look at.
[07:32] <RadSurfer> I can *not* install this. I get an error E:sub process /usr/bin/dpkg ...
[07:35] <RurouniJones> RadSurfer: If you want help answer the questions. moetunes asked you if you checksummed the ISO
[07:35] <RadSurfer> why did I do this then:
[07:35] <RadSurfer> [02:32] <RadSurfer> http://pastebin.ca/1959108   <--- please look at.
[07:35] <moetunes> I put him on /ignore
[07:36] <RadSurfer> Not exactly very friendly or sharp of him was it.
[07:36] <RadSurfer> The sha256's check out. Now what please?
[07:38] <RadSurfer> You're saying that you have not heard other similar reports yet then?
[07:38] <RurouniJones> da50a1ddb22060a2abda6823c9d1148d  kubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso
[07:38] <RurouniJones> That is the MD5 checksum from the kubuntu site
[07:38] <RadSurfer> can you please do this:
[07:39] <RadSurfer> sha256sum -b <your 10.10 .iso>   please
[07:39] <RadSurfer> and paste that here.
[07:39] <RurouniJones> Nope
[07:39] <RadSurfer> ah shucks, why not
[07:39] <RurouniJones> you md5sum yours and compare to the website
[07:39] <RurouniJones> like it tells you on the download page
[07:39] <RurouniJones> for one thing, I dont have 10.10
[07:40] <RadSurfer> should be identical if sha was.
[07:40] <RurouniJones> Where did you get the reference sha checksum form?
[07:40] <volodya> suppose I've enable this 'nepomuk' thing, and added some tags and ratings to files. How do I actually search using those?
[07:40] <RadSurfer> I get:
[07:40] <RadSurfer> da50a1ddb22060a2abda6823c9d1148d *kubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso
[07:41] <RadSurfer> which *must* match md5 since sha256 matched its own.
[07:41] <RadSurfer> they are *correct* in any event. I'm stumped.
[07:41] <RurouniJones> How are you installing
[07:41] <RadSurfer> Boot. answer prompts. do *not* check "install 3rd party"
[07:42] <RurouniJones> So installing from CD at bootup?
[07:42] <RadSurfer> Yes.
[07:42] <RurouniJones> Made sure the CD is ok? Did you checksum that?  (yes, I am checksum mad)
[07:43] <RadSurfer> Checksum CD itself. No.  Where would I find those values please.
[07:43] <RurouniJones> CD checksum should match the ISO
[07:43] <RadSurfer> indeed?
[07:43] <RurouniJones> dd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum
[07:43] <RurouniJones> Or something along those lines
[07:44] <RadSurfer> If you're not certain, I'm not risking it
[07:44] <RurouniJones> md5sum /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrom also
[07:44] <RurouniJones> er, minus the second /dev
[07:44] <RurouniJones> Tell you waht, just look at that page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[07:47] <RadSurfer> running md5sum -b /dev/cdrom, gives:
[07:47] <RadSurfer> da50a1ddb22060a2abda6823c9d1148d */dev/cdrom
[07:47] <RadSurfer> again, they match, 100%   I just don't get it.
[07:47] <RadSurfer> 10.10 no like me. LOL.
[07:48] <RurouniJones> Laborious but copying the entire error message would help
[07:48] <RurouniJones> run it in a VM and transcribe is easiest
[07:48] <RadSurfer> I'm in 10.04 right now.
[07:48] <RadSurfer> not going to worry about this. hopefully others will report similar problems perhaps.
[07:49] <RadSurfer> or I can try RE-fetching it RE-burning it.
[07:49] <RadSurfer> Thanks.
[07:55] <Arv3n> Hi. I just bought an ATI card a week or so ago for my new computer. it's an ati 4650.. Would I be better off with fglrx or ati for 3d gaming?
[08:01] <mgencoglu> arkadaşlar merhaba
[08:03] <moetunes> !en | mgencoglu
[08:04] <mgencoglu> türkish:)
[08:04] <mgencoglu> can you write ubuntutr adres
[08:05] <moetunes> !tk
[08:05] <moetunes> !tr
[08:05] <moetunes> there you go
[08:06] <mgencoglu> thank you
[08:45] <shaky> ciao
[09:53] <illunatic> hm anyone know how to extract mulitple rar files back into one file?
[09:53] <illunatic> using ark unrar-free
[09:54] <leif> illunatic: what do you mean? x.part1.rar x.part2 rar?
[09:54] <illunatic> yes
[09:54] <leif> illunatic: in a console use unrar -e x.part1.rar
[09:54] <illunatic> sweet thanks
[09:55] <leif> forget the -
[09:55] <leif> just unrar e
[09:57] <illunatic> hm failed
[09:58] <leif> Maybe a part is corrupt or you haven't downloaded all parts
[09:58] <illunatic> mayb r - repair archive?
[09:58] <illunatic> or rc
[09:58] <illunatic> i dunno i'll try some of them and see
[10:00] <leif> do the rar files have redundancy to repair them=
[10:00] <leif> ?
[10:00] <illunatic> i don't know
[10:00] <illunatic> there is an sfv file
[10:01] <leif> What did unrar e print in the console?
[10:01] <leif> just the error
[10:03] <illunatic>    Failed
[10:03] <illunatic> 1 Failed
[10:03] <illunatic> that is all
[10:05] <leif> illunatic: Did it fail before it extracted from the last part?
[10:05] <illunatic> yes
[10:06] <leif> illunatic: Then check if the part where it failed has the same size as the previous parts. If if does, try to redownload it.
[10:09] <illunatic> i used 7z and it appears to have worked
[10:09] <illunatic> just don't know what directory it extracted to because i didn't specify heh
[10:09] <leif> illunatic: normally it extracts the files to the directory they are in or create a sub directory
[10:10] <illunatic> that's what i thought, but it didn't
[10:10] <illunatic> ah i found it
[10:10] <illunatic> it went to home dir
[10:10] <illunatic> awesome
[10:10] <illunatic> thanks tho. keep 7z in mind it always seems to be my savior <3
[10:11] <leif> illunatic: Though that is strange. I haven't tried to extract a rar with 7z when it failed with unrar. Maybe the files had redundancy and 7z automatically uses that.
[10:12] <illunatic> yeah i must be missing some syntax with unrar since it's not automatic
[10:12] <illunatic> 7z e file.rar
[10:16] <leif> illunatic: where the any .rev files in the folder?
[10:16] <leif> there
[10:20] <illunatic> nope leif
[10:26] <realslix> hallo community, i just downloaded kubuntu 10.10 - I got wlan and lan, I prefere the defaultgateway of my wlan instead of lan - how can I switch this in networkmanager, thx a lot
[10:27] <leif> realslix: Remove the cable?
[10:27] <realslix> leif: when i remove I get wlan internet
[10:28] <realslix> leif: but i need both
[10:28] <realslix> leif: lan and wlan - but the gateway of wlan
[10:33] <krabador> hi people, i would tell you a very annoying thing of the new kubuntu 10.10. after an installation, and people have only an hidden protected wireless lan, can't connect to it with default network manager.
[11:17] <niemand> hello
[11:18] <niemand> xorg nearly uses 100% of one cpu-core are there any workaround or tips about that - i am using kubuntu 10.10
[11:20] <Peace-> niemand: aka driver video is the bastard
[11:22] <niemand> is there any workaround?
[11:22] <realslix> hello, who know why I get a emty widget square on my Desktop - how to get them out of there
[11:22] <realslix> its simply a rectangular
[11:33] <realslix> I solved the network problem - I simply config my lan in /etc/../interfaces and wlan in networkmanager - now everything works fine
[11:34] <realslix> but what about the sevret emty square on my desktop which looks like a broken widget or something - is here a nerd who can help by this issu
[11:34]  * leif thinks that today is a good day
[11:58] <ubuntu> hi everboy
[11:58] <ubuntu> body*
[11:58] <Misterio> !hi | ubuntu
[11:58] <ubuntu> im doing chroot but i dont have internet on this chroot
[11:58] <ubuntu> i forgot wich file i got to copy from livecd
[11:59] <ubuntu> or better
[11:59] <ubuntu> who could help me to repair my grub :(
[11:59] <moetunes> it all depends on the error...
[12:00] <ubuntu> wichone? from internet or from grub?
[12:00] <moetunes> your grub error :]
[12:01] <ubuntu> when it is starting i get... grub 1.5..... then... grub error
[12:01] <ubuntu> ive new installed this machine
[12:01] <ubuntu> i think is not taking wait is the mbr :S:S
[12:02] <ubuntu> but ive tried everthing
[12:02] <ubuntu> everything
[12:02] <ubuntu> :S
[12:02] <ubuntu> i dont know what else could i do
[12:02] <moetunes> see if this helps
[12:02] <moetunes> !grub2
[12:03] <ubuntu> i know...
[12:03] <moetunes> I couldn't understand what you were saying the error was
[12:03] <moetunes> what's your native language pls
[12:04] <ubuntu> spanish-german
[12:04] <moetunes> do you want the spanish channel?
[12:04] <ubuntu> no.... better german
[12:04] <moetunes> !de
[12:05] <moetunes> hope that helps
[12:05] <ubuntu> moetunes: thanks...
[12:05] <moetunes> np :]
[12:07] <hemmond> Please, is here anybody who knows about any of bootsplash/grubsplash/login screen with stargate thematics?
[12:08] <moetunes> !themes
[12:08] <ubuntu> moetunes: could do u help me?
[12:08] <ubuntu> i need the machine working... ive this problem since yesterday
[12:09] <ubuntu> at the german channel is noone aswering now
[12:09] <moetunes> ubuntu:  I don't know that much about grub errors - someone in the #ubuntu channel would know more
[12:13] <leif> Oh, he is gone now. I could have helped him...
[12:14] <moetunes> hes in the ubuntu channel leif and not getting help...
[12:17] <leif> moetunes: Thanks, I'll try to contact him
[12:33] <mohamed> irc.freenode.net
[13:12] <livepax> hello, i need help with installing grub, please
[13:13] <cuznt> !grub2 livepax
[13:13] <livepax> yes
[13:13] <cuznt> !grub2
[13:14] <livepax> i got a crash while installing kubuntu 10.10 in this point, how can i install grub2 from the live cd
[13:15] <livepax> everything seems to be on the HD now, but system is not booting, no bootmanager installed
[13:17] <livepax> install-grub -v gives 1.98 out so it must be grub2
[13:17] <livepax> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[13:17] <livepax> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
[13:19] <giannis> hello. Suppose i want to download all images from a "wallpapers" site wich each file is >= 100KB and save them on my pc. How can i do this with "wget"?
[13:20] <leif> vlc stutters when I play a video file. The console output is [0x1e0d5d0] main input error: ES_OUT_SET_(GROUP_)PCR  is called too late (pts_delay increased to 300 ms)
[13:22] <moetunes> leif:  it might be buffers set too low - you could check in #vlc if they're awake
[13:22] <leif> moetunes: Will do that, thanks.
[13:29] <Mehrab> I can't establish a dsl connection in 10.10, even through pppoeconf. anyone have the same problem? or any idea?
[13:31] <livepax> I am trying to install Kubuntu 10.10 from the liveCD, but the insaller crashes while grub installation, so i can not boot the installed new system. Next i tryed to install grub2 with ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[13:31] <livepax> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
[13:31] <livepax> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ grub-install -v
[13:31] <livepax> grub-install (GRUB) 1.98+20100804-5ubuntu3
[13:31] <livepax> so what can I do to get the new system booting?
[13:31] <FloodBotK2> livepax: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <livepax> any ideas?
[13:32] <leif> livepax: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[13:34] <livepax> thank you very much im gonna try this
[13:35] <Mehrab> any idea about dsl problem in 10.10?
[13:35] <Kottizen> Hej fldc
[13:36] <moetunes> !ppp | Mehrab
[13:36] <Mehrab> moetunes what will that do?
[13:37] <moetunes> Mehrab:  the link to the howto?
[13:37] <moetunes> you want to use dialup yes?
[13:38] <Mehrab> moetunes: I know how to make a connection, but it doesn't connect since 10.10
[13:39] <moetunes> ok - noone I've seen in here has mentioned a prob with it
[13:39] <moetunes> tried killing knetworkmanager?
[13:40] <moetunes> if that doesn't work it's prob time to file a bug
[13:40] <moetunes> !bug
[13:40] <Mehrab> moetunes, yep. even can't connect with pppoeconf
[13:42] <Mehrab> moetunes, yes, I think
[13:42] <moetunes> Mehrab:  it might pay to have a search on the forums
[13:43] <Mehrab> I did. nothing found
[13:45] <moetunes> bug time then ...
[13:46] <zeltak>  hya..anyone know how to direct all new windows to "desktop" 1 by default (no  matter where i actually open them). i dont want to add each app as a rule one by one
[13:46] <zeltak> (under kwin 4.5.2)
[13:48] <loser222> So , when i try to startup KDE it just blacks out on me , the only way i can get to the desktop is in xfce with ubuntu 10.10
[13:48] <moetunes> loser222:  you have a nvidia card?
[13:49] <loser222> i dont think so its some strange everex machine
[13:50] <moetunes> ok - that sounds weird then - do you kdm to get into xfce too?
[13:50] <loser222> intergrated video
[13:50] <leif> Which package do I have to install for mpga support in dragonplayer? I already tried libxine1-plugins, libxvidcore4 and libxine1-bin
[13:50] <loser222> i think i use gdm
[13:51] <moetunes> for both?
[13:51] <loser222> im not sure honestly ;/
[13:54] <loser222> all i know is i just installed kde from the package manager - and it will show the icons loading the hd icons etc... and halfway through it just takes me back to the place where i select my sessions
[13:54] <vbgunz__> anybody else experiencing the 800% slowdown at hibernation?
[13:54] <compilerwriter> So how has upgrading been going folks?
[13:55] <smooph> zeltak: I haven't done that but you could try creating a new windowspecific rule that fits all windows ... and make it "apply initialy" to desktop 1
[13:55] <vbgunz__> compilerwriter: amazingly smooth. I think this was the first smooth upgrade ever for me
[13:56] <compilerwriter> Well I have tarred my home directory.  I guess it is time to cross myself and hit upgrade.
[13:56] <vbgunz__> compilerwriter: why did you tar your home?
[13:56] <compilerwriter> I will have it as a backup should there be a hiccup.
[13:57] <vbgunz__> compilerwriter: its good to have backups but no need to ever tar home
[13:57] <vbgunz__> compilerwriter: do you have /home on it's own partition?
[13:58] <compilerwriter> my home is on its own partition vbgunz__ I just tarred my /username and burned it to dvd to have as a backup.
[13:58] <compilerwriter> call me anal vbgunz__ I suppose.
[13:59] <vbgunz__> good stuff, as long as you never point to reformat /home, your /home dir should be fine... tarring it would be insane as a backup solution I would think but any way you backup I would suppose is good
[13:59] <vbgunz__> compilerwriter: haha, nah, not gonna do that
[14:00] <vbgunz__> compilerwriter: good luck upgrading, I hope it works out for you
[14:00] <compilerwriter> well I just fired up the upgrade.  Here goes nothing.
[14:01] <vbgunz__> gl!
[14:01] <vbgunz__> zeltak: how many desktops you have?
[14:02] <vbgunz__> just curious
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:05]  * compilerwriter is saying a Hail Mary while his system upgrades
[14:05] <zeltak> vbgunz__: six
[14:05]  * compilerwriter is considering following that with a shot of whiskey
[14:06] <sobczyk> what is the preferred input method for Kubuntu?
[14:06] <compilerwriter> howdy BluesKaj
[14:07] <BluesKaj> sobczyk, input method for what?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> hi compilerwriter
[14:07] <sobczyk> I got this bug i meerkat with kate and Ibus https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesdk-kde4/+bug/254268
[14:07] <vbgunz__> Sup BluesKaj
[14:08] <BluesKaj> hi vbgunz
[14:08] <vbgunz> zeltak: you want to point every new window to desktop 1 by default? you want to force this with window rules?
[14:08] <sobczyk> BluesKaj: text input method ie. scim ibus etc
[14:10] <zeltak> vbgunz: all windows apart from ones that i defined rules for them
[14:10] <BluesKaj> sobczyk, dunno, think you should monitor that bug on launchpad , it's new to me
[14:10] <sobczyk> the bug is 2 years old, maybe a regression?
[14:11] <vbgunz> zeltak: that's gonna be kind of tough, I tried that once and I could never get it... what might work for you now is putting in a regex title of .* for window title
[14:12] <vbgunz> zeltak: that should match every window title but that might interfere with the windows you already have rules for... I am not sure if window rules are followed in order... you'll have to experiment
[14:13] <vbgunz> zeltak: basically everywhere you can enter a regex pattern for a window, try .*
[14:13] <BluesKaj> well, I haven't seen or encountered it before , sobczyk .sorry I don't know the fix .
[14:13] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj: You udated anything yet?
[14:14] <compilerwriter> s/udated/updated
[14:14] <BluesKaj> everythig compilerwriter , aamof  I havent received an update since saturday
[14:16] <compilerwriter> I'm in the midst of upgrading to the cute liltte rodent now.  So far I have heard nothing bad about meerkat
[14:16] <zeltak> ok thx vbgunz ill try that
[14:16] <sobczyk> I was rather curious whether there is a text input method of choice for Kubuntu(or KDE4 for that matter)
[14:16] <BluesKaj> all seems fine so far , altho I haven't been using the pcs much...too busy raking and doing yardwork :(
[14:17] <compilerwriter> That is what the teenagers from down the street are for.  Keeps them from making babies we all have to pay for if they are doing yard work.
[14:18] <compilerwriter> An idle teen is a dangerous thing.
[14:18] <BluesKaj> sobczyk, I just do simple stuff like copy and paste etc ..I don't work anymore so I don't use pcs on the job and when I did they were all windows pcs
[14:19] <BluesKaj> <--- is retired
[14:20] <moetunes> I'm jealous
[14:21] <moetunes> 30 yrs to go here
[14:22] <BluesKaj> moetunes, I'm also getting old , there are drawbacks
[14:22] <moetunes> BluesKaj:  yeh that's a point :]
[14:23]  * BluesKaj heads to the kitchen for a coffee
[14:26] <sobczyk> I remember one could grep package names from apt for bug reports, anyone remembers that?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> odd that there haven't been any updates since before the official release , I updated sat nite and that was the last one to come down the pipe
[14:27] <vbgunz> coffee is awesome man
[14:27] <vbgunz> I wish I could get like an IV direct to my toungue
[14:30] <leife> just to let you know: removing and reinstalling the binary nvidia driver removed my vlc problem.
[14:33] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: I know what you mean. The RC must have been so solid, it must have been the final. I updated to the RC and probably saw about a total of no updates since :/
[14:34] <vbgunz> that's when I went to get 4.5.2
[14:34] <vbgunz> heh
[14:36] <compilerwriter> So far so good says there are 24 minutes left BluesKaj
[14:38] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, I'm srill on 4.5.1 , think I'll wait til the next kde is official or very close to it
[14:39] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, it took about an hr on my connection which maxs out at 750kbs
[14:40] <leandrosansilva> Hello to all. Do you know if the problem with the kubuntu 10.10 installer on flash drive was resolved?
[14:42] <moetunes> leandrosansilva:  I think you would have to check on launchpad for info on that
[14:42] <moetunes> !launchpad
[14:42] <BluesKaj> !usb | leandrosansilva
[14:47] <leandrosansilva> ubottu: The installer of kubuntu 32 bit isn't working on flash drive
[14:48] <leandrosansilva> moetunes: The installer of kubuntu 32 bit isn't working on flash drive
[14:49] <Riddell> * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek starting in 13 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom, Kubuntu talk in 2 hours
[14:51] <moetunes> leandrosansilva:  someone earlier said they were going to do a bug report on that
[14:52] <leandrosansilva> moetunes: ok. thx. But do you know if the problem is going to be resolved in the next days?
[14:53] <moetunes> leandrosansilva:  I don't know how busy the devs are sorry
[14:56] <Misterio> Why isn't openning options window if I am clicking on 'configure rekonq' ?
[14:56] <Misterio> It seems it doesn't work, but it worked when I used first time
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Misterio, maybe it's opening behind the browser, minimize rekonq to see
[15:01] <Misterio> BluesKaj: Yes, I did it, but there isn't any window behind it
[15:02] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:03] <Misterio> !screenshot
[15:04] <BluesKaj> it's difficult to figure out what is could be , Misterio , since I can't replicate your problem.
[15:04] <Misterio> well, now I am trying to post the image, but I can't see the window in which I have to select folder...
[15:06] <Misterio> BluesKaj: Well, fixed :P
[15:06] <Misterio> BluesKaj: "killall rekonq" fixed it
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Misterio, are you clicking on the wrench icon beside the addressbar ?
[15:07] <rc> .
[15:07] <Misterio> BluesKaj: When I clicked it, it appeared as pressed all the time
[15:07] <Misterio> and I couldn't open any window like preferences, or something like that
[15:08] <vbgunz> anybody familiar with solid-powermanagement? how can I set the profile without the need to have X running?
[15:09] <rc> .
[15:12] <James147> vbgunz: looks like "solid-powermanagement query cpufreq" to get a list of support policies... and "solid-powermanagement set cpufreq <policy>" to set it
[15:14] <vbgunz> James147: thanks, that how I currently mess around but it seems I need X to be running and I need to be in X for this to work. e.g., running solid-powermanagement from tty without X results in an error that solid-... cannot find X :(
[15:17] <vbgunz> gotta try hibernating again... this slowdown is killing me :(
[15:23] <vbgunz> man hibernation is so terribly slow
[15:23] <vbgunz> man hibernation is so terribly slow
[15:25] <BluesKaj> hmm wonder what the query is for the cpu settings
[15:26] <Aison> hello
[15:26] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: what do you mean?
[15:26] <vbgunz> hello
[15:27] <BluesKaj> vbgunz,, what the settings are, not the options
[15:27] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: oh
[15:27] <Aison> i've got strange problems with my wireless. knetworkmanager stopped working somehow. now after each reboot, I have to to iwconfig wlan0 essid myid; ifconfig wlan0 up; dhclient wlan0; then it's working
[15:27] <Aison> it's really strange
[15:28] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: what I do is query first, solid-powermanagement query cpufreq  ... then, solid-powermanagement set [one of those options]
[15:28] <vbgunz> something like that?
[15:28] <Fleck> hey, anyone here with ati?
[15:28] <Fleck> i have problem, set up dual display
[15:28] <Fleck> everything is OK
[15:29] <Fleck> but, when launching game and after i quit game - 2nd screen gets in standby
[15:29] <BluesKaj> I want to know what the seting is , not what it can be set to , vbgunz
[15:29] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: query it, the asterick tells you
[15:29] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:30] <vbgunz> Aison: that usually happens to me after a failed hibernation, then I just run this 'rm /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state; service network-manager restart'
[15:31] <BluesKaj> goog vbgunz , now I can dump that silly app cpureq-utils that doesn't do much anyway
[15:31] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: cool, thing is you need X running, I can't find a way to do it in say tty1 :/
[15:32] <vbgunz> I am also be just a lil lazy about it too
[15:32] <vbgunz> well, I am gonna restart, gonna switch back to the old kernel, I hope grub picked it up as default
[15:32] <vbgunz> brb
[15:57] <BluesKaj> heh, that #ubuntu-classroom is a bit of a joke , where's the instructions for asking a question properly ...seems if you don't follow their protocol you don't get aqn answer
[16:01] <BluesKaj> Riddell, you around ?
[16:02] <mkpaa> has someone else encountered problem with ibus when upgrading to maverick? I didn't exactly same problem from forums. I get blank screen after kdm login and kdm.log says 'inoticy_add_watch failed: No such file or directory.'
[16:02] <Riddell> hi BluesKaj
[16:02] <realslix> hi, I just instaled kubuntu 10.10, everything works fine, but there is a emty widget rectangular on my desktop - which is a broken widget or something - what is it and how to solve this problem
[16:02] <Riddell> mkpaa: unless you use ibus you can ignore any warnings about it
[16:03] <Riddell> realslix: close it?
[16:03] <Riddell> realslix: it's probably the Desktop Folder widget
[16:03] <mkpaa> yet that is only error I've figure out from the logs
[16:03] <Riddell> mkpaa: check what session KDM is set to log into
[16:04] <realslix> Riddell: its a bug - I cant't close it - I'm a skilled linux user
[16:04] <mkpaa> how do I do that?
[16:04] <Riddell> realslix: check what it is in ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc
[16:04] <BluesKaj> Riddell, what's the classroom protocol ..I didn't see any instructions about how to properly ask
[16:04] <Riddell> mkpaa: click the first button below left of the text fields
[16:04] <realslix> Riddell: ok, I try
[16:05] <Riddell> BluesKaj: ask in #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[16:06] <BluesKaj> Riddell, ok got it,  thanks Riddell
[16:06] <mkpaa> default
[16:10] <mkpaa> riddell, failsafe just brings me back to login screen, aaand I get a segfault in Xorg.0.log
[16:10] <mkpaa> checking that :)
[16:13] <realslix> Riddell: do you see the square http://i55.tinypic.com/2vdma6p.png
[16:13] <RadSurfer> I couldn't get 10.10 to install, how many people in here have been successful with 10.10 installations?
[16:14] <RadSurfer> maybe tell me which mirror you used, etc.
[16:14] <Riddell> realslix: looks like an uninitialised desktop folder widget
[16:14] <Riddell> realslix: try restarting plasma   kquitapp plasma-desktop; plasma-desktop
[16:15] <realslix> RadSurfer: after I burnd my kubuntu dis three times - I was able to install kubuntu - after I was waiting 3 min befor install screen
[16:15] <RadSurfer> 3 times?
[16:15] <RadSurfer> I'm not wasting 3 cd's. I'd use an RW
[16:16] <realslix> the first disc i got over torrent - the second and third direct download
[16:16] <RadSurfer> what url did you use please?
[16:17] <Riddell> RadSurfer: just check the MD5 sum before burning
[16:17] <Riddell> MD5 sums are listed at the bottom of the download page on kubuntu.org
[16:17] <RadSurfer> sha256sum and md5sums are ALL validating. yet it gives E:subprocess /usr/bin/dpkg code(1)
[16:17] <realslix> yes md5 is the better choice
[16:17] <Riddell> mkpaa: if you know how to use a linux console you can start X manually, set DISPLAY=:0 and run startkde and see what happens
[16:17] <realslix> first check than burn :)
[16:19] <mkpaa> umm.. interesting, kdebase-workspace-bin was missing after upgrade and it depends on 4.5.1 packages :)
[16:19] <mkpaa> so, I am missing startkde
[16:20] <mkpaa> any ideas?
[16:20] <RadSurfer> I used torrent download, if that indicates anything. Trying direct d/l now.
[16:21] <Riddell> RadSurfer: if the MD5 sum matches that won't make a difference
[16:21] <Riddell> mkpaa: install it :)
[16:21] <orbitalcommand> hi, anyone have a link to basic wifi connection setup with kubuntu
[16:21] <RadSurfer> well, we'll find out.
[16:21] <Riddell> mkpaa: make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed
[16:22] <Buutti> phew, finally got the networking over bluetooth working :)
[16:22] <Riddell> Buutti: oh?  using GUI tools or command line
[16:22] <Buutti> command line
[16:22] <Buutti> seems to be impossible to do it with gui tools
[16:22] <mkpaa> says broken dependancies
[16:23] <mkpaa> (workspace-bin)
[16:23] <Riddell> mkpaa: anything else?
[16:23] <cuco> hi all, ssh -x is not working from my ubuntu 10.10, from ubuntu 10.04 it does work. can anyone help? (i enabled X11 in ~/.ssh/config
[16:23] <mkpaa> nothing else listed
[16:23] <Buutti> mkpaa, dpkg-reconfigure -a ?
[16:24] <James147> cuco: isent it -X ?
[16:27] <mkpaa> kubuntu-desktop depends on kdebase-workspace-bin
[16:28] <mkpaa> no others
[16:28] <mkpaa> buutti, done that
[16:29] <Buutti> then what if you remove kubuntu-desktop?
[16:29] <Buutti> and install it again
[16:31] <BluesKaj> Buutti, i'd suggest you write the steps down in a text file so when someone else has that problem you can help.
[16:31] <LogicallyDashing> I grabbed a stylesheet from userstyles.org and set it as my user CSS file in rekonq. It should be making my pages all dark, but it isn't. What's up?
[16:32] <Buutti> BluesKaj, i am going to, and i'm gonna add them to the forums too later
[16:33] <BluesKaj> Buutti, good ! :)
[16:33] <Buutti> writing documentation is always a loooong project
[16:33] <mkpaa> buutti, well, it is not installed so can't remove :)
[16:35] <arunmozhi> tell me a good how to for kubuntu 10.10 & ubuntu 10.10 upgrade
[16:36] <James147> !upgrade
[16:36] <arunmozhi> i am currently at 10.04 Lucid
[16:40] <BluesKaj> arunmozhi, in the terminal : sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:41] <mkpaa> looking at the problem later, thanks for help
[16:42] <arunmozhi> BluesKaj thnx
[16:53] <kruz> hi
[16:56] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu talk at Ubuntu Open Week in #ubuntu-classroom in 5 minutes
[16:59] <kruz> I have a problem with Grub, there is no timeout to boot. But I have one set in /boot/grub/grub.cfg http://pastebin.ca/1959392  What should I change to make the timeout work?
[17:01] <moetunes> kruz:  are you hitting esc or shift to get the menu?
[17:02] <kruz> moetunes: no, nothing, it only apears and remains there.
[17:03] <moetunes> oh
[17:05] <James147> kruz: you shouldnt edit the grub.cfg file... edit /etc/default/grub instead then run "sudo update-grub" (this will overwrite the grub.cfg file... whihc is why you shouldnt edit it)
[17:06] <kruz> James147: ah, ok, I think it is the bad habit from grub 1.
[17:08] <kruz> James147: now I see that I have also edited /etc/default/grub file, changesing the timeout to 3 s. http://paste.ubuntu.com/510986/
[17:09] <James147> kruz: for changes in /etc/default/grub to take effect run "sudo update-grub"
[17:12] <kruz> James147: Done :)  When grub loads after POST, does it read the config only from /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[17:12] <James147> kruz: not entirly sure :)
[17:12] <James147> !grub2
[17:14] <kruz> will take a look at it. But now, after  "sudo update-grub", the  /boot/grub/grub.cfg is still the same as it was befor grub-update (checked with kdiff3)
[17:24] <connor_> Hey Guys
[17:25] <connor_> I have a question about playing my music in Kubuntu.
[17:25] <skrishna> Hi, room I have installed Kubuntu-10.10 and I am happy about the stability and changes the ubuntu has brought ! Only One major thing I am worried is about "Desktop Effects" is getting disabled every time I log-in to the system ? I am having HP-Pavilion DV2901-TU and noticed the same behavior on Lenovo-Y310 laptop. Why the Desktop effects are disabled by default ? Any Help ?
[17:26] <connor_> Do you log out safely?
[17:26] <BluesKaj> ask away connor_
[17:26] <connor_> (save personal settings)
[17:26] <connor_> Ah, ok well.  I have tried a few mp3 players (VLC and Exaile)
[17:26] <connor_> VLC didn't work at all
[17:26] <connor_> whenever i opened my mp3 files
[17:27] <connor_> they say it isn't supported.
[17:27] <connor_> Wheneve ri use Exaile
[17:27] <connor_> it works
[17:27] <connor_> but the files are grouped into folders, which i dont like
[17:27] <connor_> is it possible to jsut have all of the media in one pane and be able to sort them by artist or title
[17:28] <skrishna> And one more thing to notice.. I have disabled "Functionality Check in Desktop Effects" I am able to save the settings of desktop effects but animation speed is little bit slower :-(
[17:29] <skrishna> Is there anyone from "KUBUNTU" here in room ?
[17:29] <BluesKaj> connor_, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:30] <BluesKaj> connor_, try amarok player
[17:30] <connor_> Ok, let me see how this works out.
[17:31] <orbitalcommand> in general, what sort of responses have been going around the community to ease of wifi setup between 9.10, 10.04, and 10.10
[17:31] <orbitalcommand> in terms of ease of wifi...*
[17:31] <connor_> Amarok does the same thing.  All of my files play perfectly, just the interface groups them by album, which isn't how i would like that.
[17:31] <BluesKaj> skrishna, uncheck disable functionality checks
[17:32] <James147> connor_: I think you can change how amarok groups them
[17:33] <skrishna> BluesKaj: thnx. for the reply... I have already said that i have checked the box "Disable functionality check" in desktop effects, that works but the animations effects are delayed.. ! :(
[17:33] <connor_> I've tried all of the conventionall things.  It still groups them by Album
[17:34] <skrishna> BluesKaj: moreover after that change, appearance of menu windows is delayed by 3 seconds (with right click of mouse button) on desktop !
[17:34] <BluesKaj> skrishna, uncheck it
[17:35] <James147> connor_: what version of amarok?
[17:35] <connor_> Oh man, no idea
[17:36] <connor_> Just installed 10.10
[17:36] <BluesKaj> connor_, right click on local collection choose 'organize files' , it will take afewswcs to load the options but there are several
[17:36] <skrishna> BluesKaj: Un-check will disable my desktop effects when I reboot and login to my desktop :-( , Any alternate way ! I tried export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 in /etc/profile and didn't work and did work perfectly in Arch Linux :(
[17:36] <James147> BluesKaj: that will move things on the disk... not waht he wants
[17:37] <BluesKaj> in amarok ?
[17:37] <connor_> Pretty much, i want to delete all of the "Alumb" entries in Amarok
[17:38] <James147> BluesKaj: orginise files in amarok will orgnise they files on the disk... not change how they are shown in amarok
[17:38] <James147> connor_: there is a "config" icon just above the collection part, you can click on taht to orgnises the view in a different way...
[17:38] <BluesKaj> James147, so how is that a negative ?
[17:39] <James147> or for the playlist go to Playlist > playlist layouts  and configure it how you want
[17:39] <James147> BluesKaj: if the id3 tags are wrong it will mess everything up :(
[17:39] <connor_> Ha thank you James, you fixed it
[17:39] <connor_> :D
[17:41] <PasNox> Hi all, yesterday i was telling about password dialog problems, does some people are experiencing it too ?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> James147, heh, I'm not crazy about the Idtag system anyway ...it's ok for newer music but older stuff like I have isn't even in the db  in some cases
[17:41]  * skrishna still couldn't get appropriate answer for the difficulty in settings of desktop-effects 
[17:41] <James147> BluesKaj: in which case the orgnise button will move all those files to one folder "unknown" or something :)
[17:42] <BluesKaj> yup, I have alarge unknown folder
[17:43] <James147> PasNox: you might want to restate your problem :) some of us have terible memories :D
[17:43] <BluesKaj> pretty sad when Jimi Hendrix is the unknown folder
[17:43] <BluesKaj> is in
[17:43] <PasNox> my probleme is: some password dialog reject me while i'm sure i typed the correct password, the probleme does not appear with konsole/sudo or kdesudo appname
[17:44] <PasNox> but only when some apps show me a password dialog for doing admin stuff
[17:44] <PasNox> like kpackagekit ( install app ) and systemesettings/kdm
[17:44] <BluesKaj> skrishna, it's obviously an isolated case ...I have to ask if you are clicking the apply button after making changes?
[17:47] <skrishna> BluesKaj: What sort of changes ? *Just check-in the "Disable Functionality Checks" and everything works perfect* but my problem is the animation speed in lagging :-( there after ! Why the drivers are blacklisted in kubuntu ?
[17:47] <fungos> how can I upgrade ubuntu to 10.10? kpackekit dont show any options and there is no other system/update manager anywhere.
[17:48] <fungos> kubuntu* btw
[17:49] <BluesKaj> ahh, skrishna ,  which drivers are blacklisted ?
[17:50] <BluesKaj> fungos, in the terminal  ;  sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:50] <skrishna> BluesKaj: Video driver i mean ! I have Intel GMA945 chipset and an other laptop with GM965
[17:50] <fungos> BluesKaj: nice one, that is tricky. thanks
[17:50] <fungos> better yet: No new release found
[17:51] <BluesKaj> fungos, nothing tricky about it , straightforward cli commands are best imo :)
[17:51] <skrishna> BluesKaj: both of i my laptop shows Desktop-effects suspended after full installation and login to system ! :-/
[17:51] <BluesKaj> skrishna, have you updated since ?
[17:52] <fungos> BluesKaj: well.. the name of the command..  do-<...>  not very intuitive for me..  better upgrade-<...>
[17:52] <BluesKaj> fungos, lsb_release -a
[17:52] <fungos> Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[17:52] <skrishna> BluesKaj: Installed Kubuntu-10.10 with selecting "update" during installation !
[17:53] <skrishna> BluesKaj: That is a new option introduced in 10.10 update during installation !
[17:53] <BluesKaj> skrishna, always update after a new install , sudo apt-get update , in the terminal
[17:54] <BluesKaj> then sudo apt-get upgrade , skr
[17:54] <BluesKaj> err skrishna
[17:54]  * skrishna runs the commands..
[17:54] <winmutt> i upgraded to meerkat
[17:55] <winmutt> where does my X coredump go?
[17:55] <James147> fungos: in kpackagekit try changing the type of release it look for from LTS to normal
[17:55] <skrishna> BluesKaj: Nothing to upgrade : srikant@HP-Pavilion:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:55] <skrishna> Reading state information... Done
[17:55] <skrishna> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:56] <James147> skrishna: sudo apt-get update    first
[17:56] <skrishna> James147: I have did that already and then tried upgrade :-)
[17:57] <James147> skrishna: just making sure ;)
[17:57] <fungos> James147: Thanks, not it asking to upgrade!
[17:57] <kyubutsu> to upgrade to 10.10 run    sudo update-manager -d     in terminal
[17:57] <skrishna> James147: repositories are already in sync since 4 hrs i am trying to setup my kubuntu.. :-)
[17:58] <James147> kyubutsu: -d shouldnt be needed... its use to upgrade to develepment releases... which maverick is no longer
[17:58] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu, bot ther -d , that's for RC , not the official release
[17:58] <BluesKaj> not
[17:58] <kyubutsu> it will work
[17:59] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu, -d isn't for official releases
[17:59] <skrishna> James147: since kubuntu-10.10-rc I am seeing that desktop effects are auto suspended every time i login to my system :(
[17:59] <fungos> thanks, bye. will let it upgrading.
[17:59] <James147> skrishna: sounds like the functionatly checks testing false positive
[18:00] <skrishna> James147: Is this due to any "blur" effect or something ? Since in my Kubuntu-10.04 this never happened :(
[18:00] <James147> skrishna: as far as I know the individual effects are disabled if it detects it cannot handel them
[18:00] <kyubutsu> anyway, i have a puter with a broken buntu in a win7/ubuntu dual boot , and upgrading didnt fix things, how bad an idea is to install kubuntu on this box to replace ubuntu
[18:00] <James147> skrishna: try a new user... see if they ahve the same problem
[18:01] <BluesKaj> heh, I have desktop effects turned off on my desktop pc due to the graphics probs like freezes etc ...crappy ati onboard support nowadays
[18:02] <James147> kyubutsu: its not a bad idea.... if you dont format the old root drive ( / ) then you should have your old /home intact
[18:03] <pog1> Hi, anyone know how can i set KMAIL for running with messange indicator plasmoid? It work only with Kopete e Quassel...
[18:03] <kyubutsu> i do want install kubuntu over ubuntu not triple boot
[18:04] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu, yeah some of your non default apps might be missing but just reinstall them and their settings will be retained because the conf files don't get overwritten during new install
[18:04] <skrishna> James147: I have seen this issue in ArchLinux, Kubuntu and not in sabayon.. but the graphics speed very disappointing in sabayon ! :-(
[18:04] <kyubutsu> that /home is backed up .. just not sure if installing another system would break win7 install
[18:05] <James147> kyubutsu: if you set the the old ubuntu partition to mount at / for the new one... then the installer will delete all the system files (it should leave /home alone)
[18:05] <James147> (that is done though the manual partitioning option)
[18:06] <James147> kyubutsu: the win7 install should not break... as long as you dont formate its partition :) ...
[18:06] <kyubutsu> gotcha
[18:06] <James147> (very rarly grub fails to find it... but that can be fixed_)
[18:07] <HT> I have a problem with sound: in Pulseaudio volume control window I see the ``sound bar'' move up and down indicating sound, nothing comes out of the speakers however
[18:07] <HT> Any Idea how to fix that?
[18:07] <BluesKaj> yup, kyubutsu the method James147 describes works well , I've reinstalled over / without formatting and without a /home and still retained all my data
[18:08] <kyubutsu> the borked part was gnome network manager..  it still works but have to manually start the service to connect  [wifi], very wierd
[18:08] <James147> BluesKaj: ^^ it even works with encrpyted home drives :D given you use the same password as before and chose the encrpty home drive option again :D
[18:09] <James147> HT: I would check all the volumes in "alsamixer" (run from terminal)
[18:09] <HT> I did: those are all up on the top
[18:09] <kyubutsu> along with awn , broke at the same time .. never saw what caused this .. :(
[18:09] <BluesKaj> James147, cool . altho encrytion isn't likely to be used on my pcs
[18:09] <James147> !sound | HT
[18:10] <James147> BluesKaj: useing it now on my laptop :) just because I can
[18:10] <HT> ubottu: thanks, I'll have a look
[18:10] <kyubutsu> owned
[18:10] <James147> :)
[18:10] <kyubutsu> heh.. dont worry , it happens to all of us at least once
[18:11] <HT> Hmm, how intelligent is this bot?
[18:11] <James147> HT: not very ;)
[18:11] <BluesKaj> HT, depends on what you ask :)
[18:12] <HT> Ah, just a regular expression parser and some actions?
[18:12] <James147> !ubottu
[18:12] <James147> HT: not even sure it ahve regex
[18:13] <James147> HT: it can pipe its output, thats about it
[18:13] <connor_> Hey guys, i have a question about Amarok
[18:13] <HT> RIght, I see jou asked it to push some info to me; thanks
[18:14] <James147> !ask | connor_
[18:14] <scherenhaenden> de!
[18:14] <scherenhaenden> !De
[18:14] <scherenhaenden> !de
[18:14] <scherenhaenden> :S
[18:14] <BluesKaj> HT, I have to ask , any muted (M) in the ctrls boxes ?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> in alsamixer
[18:15] <HT> BluesKaj: No; all are fine
[18:15] <HT> Ever since I found that PCM was off some years back thats the first place I look :-)(
[18:15] <connor_> Ah ok, sorry.  My question is that after a song finishes in Amarok, it goes tot he next one, but it doesn't start playing unless i press play.. How can i get all of my songs to flow one after another?
[18:19] <BluesKaj> HT, are you running the PA GUI  ?
[18:20] <HT> Yes
[18:21] <HT> BluesKaj:  THe pulsaudio volume control
[18:21] <BluesKaj> what soundcard , HT ?
[18:22] <HT> Its an Realtek ALC888 (intel hda)
[18:23] <BluesKaj> !intelhda | HT
[18:24] <HT> Yes I am looking at it
[18:27] <connor_> Guys, in amarok, after finishing a song, Amarok selects the next song, but does not play it.  What setting should i Change to have them all flow from one to another?
[18:28] <LogicallyDashing> I need to set up my computer as an internet gateway. To do this, I need to assign an IP address to the network card. I can do that just fine with ifconfig... and that works, and lets me connect to the internet through this gateway... but when I disconnect, the network card loses its IP address. How do I make it stick?
[18:29] <James147> connor_: what version of amarok?
[18:29] <connor_> James147, The one that came with 10.10
[18:29] <connor_> oh found it, it is 2.3.2
[18:30] <James147> hmm, ... try changing the options at the bottom of the playlist...
[18:31] <James147> although as far as I can tell non of them should jsut pay one song then stop :(
[18:33] <connor_> Exactly, i have the track progression set to Standard, and even if it is random, it will select a random track, then stop.  I dont get it. :(
[18:33] <James147> connor_: could you try it on a new user?
[18:33] <BluesKaj> yeah, I'm searching the options and not having any luck ...the autoplayback works if the soings are listed in the playlist section
[18:33] <connor_> Autoplay back? where is that
[18:35] <BluesKaj> connor_, dunno , do you the songs listed in a playlist , on my amarok I have it on the right with the albums in the local cllection on the right
[18:35] <PasNox> I'm using an apple aluminium keyboard, i have some problems: i can't switch on by default the fonciton key ( i have to press Fn key... boring ) + printscreen etc does not work
[18:35] <BluesKaj> err on localmcollewction on the left
[18:35] <PasNox> i trying pressing f13 f14 f15 and ksnapshot does not starts ( while it should on printscreen key pressed )
[18:35] <PasNox> any idea?
[18:35] <connor_> This is very strange, i have mine pretty much the same way
[18:36] <BluesKaj> local collection on the left rather
[18:37] <James147> connor_: could you create a new user andtest it with that?
[18:37] <skrishna> BluesKaj: Any idea why Live CD of kubuntu doesn't contain wvdial, where as my USB modem does not work after managing from networkmanager of panel ?
[18:37] <connor_> Sure thing, give me a minute
[18:41] <JohnFlux> Has anyone upgraded to 10.10 yet?
[18:41] <JohnFlux> Does it break anything major?
[18:42]  * James147 is upgrading now :)
[18:42] <RadSurfer> couldn't install it. dpkg error of some sort.
[18:42] <skrishna> James147: where can i get the ubuntu skin for mozilla firefox ?
[18:42] <RadSurfer> Waiting to try again this evening.
[18:42] <James147> skrishna: ubuntu skin?
[18:42] <RadSurfer> James147: what phase are you at?
[18:43] <James147> RadSurfer: setting up stuff
[18:43] <RadSurfer> Its intalled and rebooted already? thats further than I got.
[18:43] <James147> RadSurfer: not rebooted yet... its still setting stuff up
[18:43] <RadSurfer> Oh!
[18:43] <RadSurfer> Ok. Please keep us posted.
[18:44] <RadSurfer> James147: direct download from kubuntu.org?
[18:44] <connor__> I've installed 10.10
[18:44] <James147> RadSurfer: ran "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[18:44] <RadSurfer> ouch. I don't trust those.
[18:44] <connor__> You should follow the instructions on kubuntu.com
[18:45] <RadSurfer> To each is own.
[18:45] <James147> RadSurfer: :) cannot be bothered to do a full install this time...
[18:45] <JohnFlux> connor__: does that means that it breaks if you do anything slightly wrong?
[18:45] <James147> RadSurfer: gona try an upgrade... i can always reinstall if something goes wrong
[18:45] <connor__> Its pretty hard to do something wrong, goto the kubuntu website and follow the instructions in the banner
[18:45] <RadSurfer> I trust you backedup to cd/dvd already :)
[18:45] <James147> RadSurfer: nop :D
[18:46] <James147> RadSurfer: dont even ahve a cd/dvd rom
[18:46] <connor__> My amarok problem fixed itself.  Solution: Reboot system
[18:46] <RadSurfer> I wonder how many got 10.10 going.
[18:46] <connor__> I did xD
[18:46] <James147> RadSurfer: ... all my important stuff is distrabuted amoung my computers and various clouds, so tahts fine :) and most of the stuff I can just get back from /home anyway if something goes wrong
[18:46] <JohnFlux> connor__: where are the instructions?
[18:47] <connor__> If you'd like set-by-step instructions, private chat me
[18:47] <JohnFlux> connor__: do-release-upgrade  isn't enough?
[18:47] <JohnFlux> hmm, it says no new release found
[18:47] <connor__> You dont need it
[18:47] <James147> JohnFlux: no, you need to "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[18:47] <James147> ;)
[18:47] <RadSurfer> connor_: there was a warning not to check "install 3rd party apps" since it breaks dpkg or something
[18:47] <JohnFlux> James147: yeah I did that
[18:48] <James147> JohnFlux: I would check in kpackagekit to see if its set to look for LTS releases or not
[18:48] <James147> (not sure if it shares that settings with do-release...
[18:49] <JohnFlux> James147: ah, that was it exactly
[18:50] <JohnFlux> James147: great, so I've found a bug/userability problem already, and I haven't even started :-D
[18:50] <TheSqueak> hey folks
[18:50] <BluesKaj> JohnFlux, tell us what lsb_release -a outputs
[18:51] <TheSqueak> anyone got a minute to answer something about my upgrade?
[18:51] <James147> JohnFlux: why so?
[18:51] <skrishna> James147: I mean ubuntu theme for firefox browser !
[18:51] <BluesKaj> TheSqueak, ask away
[18:51] <TheSqueak> what's happened to gmplayer ?
[18:51] <James147> skrishna: dont use ubuntu or firefox :p
[18:52] <TheSqueak> the mplayer version is compiled without the gui
[18:52] <BluesKaj> TheSqueak, ask in #ubuntu
[18:53] <JohnFlux> James147: because why doesn't do-release-upgrade  simply tell me that there is a new one, but that I have long term release only set
[18:53] <JohnFlux> James147: that must have been a default since I didn't set it myself
[18:53] <skrishna> James147: One more problem my in-built bluetooth adapter is not found by kbluetooth <while trying add device> :(
[18:53] <JohnFlux> and I just hit another bug.  do-release-upgrade   asks me if I want to continue.  I select no, but it changed my /etc/apt/sources.list anyway
[18:55] <James147> JohnFlux: then you should file a bug report :)
[18:55] <James147> skrishna: what version of kubuntu are you running?
[18:56] <skrishna> James147: Kubuntu-10.10
[18:57] <evilspants> I need some help, if you guys don't mind
[18:58] <James147> !help | evilspants
[18:58] <James147> skrishna: the add device button is ment to search for other devices... not your the one in your laptop
[18:58] <James147> (and tehy need to be discrovable)
[18:59] <skrishna> James147: Ok i will start with my mobile bluetooth
[19:00]  * James147 reboots to 10.10 :D
[19:00] <evilspants> Upon startup, my wireless card is turned off, but I would like it so that I don't have to check the checkbox to 'enable wireless' every time I restart or login. Is there a way to do this?
[19:00] <skrishna> James147: One thing i am still un-aware of since one year "Is there any way of installing *ALL* packages of kubuntu DVD during first install process" ?
[19:02] <JohnFlux> skrishna: dpkg -i *.deb   :-D
[19:02] <JohnFlux> skrishna: (I don't know about the installer sorry)
[19:03] <sven_oostenbrink> While trying to upgrade 10.04 to 10.10 using kpackagekit, I selected that I want normal updates (not the LTS updates), and after refreshing the available pacakges, I got this error: http://pastebin.com/8mv4QTHs  Is this a known problem?
[19:03] <skrishna> James147: One thing i am still un-aware of since one year "Is there any way of installing *ALL* packages of kubuntu DVD during first install process" ?
[19:03] <James147> heh, now on kde 4.5.1 ... :S  was on 4.5.2 before
[19:04] <James147> skrishna: not that I know of... and I dnt know why you would want to
[19:04] <skrishna> JohnFlux: I heard we could use OEM install option, that didn't help me out ! :-(
[19:04] <BluesKaj> 4.5.2 not ready for primetime maybe
[19:04] <James147> ^^ it should be :)
[19:07] <TheSqueak> James147: 4.5.2 is available in the backports repo
[19:07] <James147> TheSqueak: I know :) already enabling it
[19:07] <skrishna> James147: I was needing that due to requirement in running and installing development tools of git & bitbake. The customization of software option is available in fedora & Suse and why not in kubuntu DVD ? :(
[19:11] <evilspants> Upon startup, my wireless card is turned off, but I would like it so that I don't have to check the checkbox to 'enable wireless' every time I restart or login. Is there a way to do this?
[19:16] <Peace-> evilspants: install wicd
[19:18] <Peace-> !wicd | evilspants
[19:18] <Peace-> omg
[19:20] <evilspants> Peace: wicd is not a solution that I was looking for.
[19:22] <evilspants> I just want to have it so I don't have to hit the check box for 'enable wireless. Is there a normal solution for it?
[19:23] <Peace-> evilspants: have you an ethernet connection ?
[19:23] <Peace-> i would like understand if device is really turned off
[19:24] <skrishna> James147: BluesKaj:  Is it recommended to update to kde-4.5.2 for Kubuntu-10.10 users or will be available through regular updates of kubuntu?
[19:24] <Peace-> or if , like i believe , its only thenetwork manager that doesn't work
[19:24] <Peace-> skrishna: you can keep the older
[19:24] <Peace-> just a bugfix
[19:25] <skrishna> Peace-: you mean kde-4.5.1 is better than kde-4.5.2 ?
[19:25] <evilspants> Peace: The device is not off. I got it working with drivers and such. But even with my wlan switch turned on, I still have to go into the menu and 'enable wireless.' It is not on by default. I am using it right now.
[19:25] <Peace-> skrishna: kde 4.5.2 it's a bugfix
[19:25] <Peace-> so...
[19:25] <Peace-> you can upgdrade but iyou will not see so
[19:26] <Peace-> difference
[19:26] <Peace-> at all
[19:26] <skrishna> Peace-: my built-in bluetooth adapter is not working in kubuntu-10.10, earlier in 10.04 it used to work without any issues :(
[19:27] <skrishna> srikant@HP-Pavilion:~$ hcitool scan
[19:27] <skrishna> Device is not available: No such device
[19:27] <skrishna> srikant@HP-Pavilion:~$
[19:27] <FloodBotK2> skrishna: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:27] <skrishna> FloodBotK2: ok
[19:27] <Peace-> skrishna: mm the new blue devil could have some problem ...like crash xD
[19:27] <skrishna> Peace-: do i need to install something like blueman ?
[19:28] <Peace-> kbluetooth its used on 10.04
[19:28] <Peace-> wait a second i have made an article
[19:28] <Peace-> abot that
[19:28] <Peace-> but i am not sure if it's usefull for you
[19:29] <skrishna> Peace-: thnx. let me check..
[19:29] <skrishna> Peace-: my bluetooth seems to be dead except wifi..
[19:29] <skrishna> Peace-: some thing to be toggled in /etc conf files ?
[19:31] <Peace-> skrishna: ok lett's check if you have all
[19:31] <Peace-> skrishna: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/kubuntu-10-04-browse-your-phone-with-kde-with-bluetooth/
[19:31] <Peace-> skrishna: like said here
[19:31] <Peace-> skrishna: sudo apt-get install bluetooth bluez bluez-alsa bluez-cups bluez-gstreamer bluez-utils kdebluetooth libbluetooth3 python-bluez libmulticobex1 libobexftp0 libopenobex1 obex-data-server obexd-client python-obexftp obexfs
[19:31] <Peace-> try that
[19:32] <Peace-> let me know if you have some news
[19:32] <bigboss> hello!
[19:32] <Peace-> hi
[19:32] <skrishna> Peace-: is kbluetooth obsolete now ?
[19:33] <skrishna> Peace-: E: Package 'kdebluetooth' has no installation candidate
[19:33] <Peace-> damn
[19:33] <bigboss> how are you
[19:33] <bigboss> what?
[19:33] <Peace-> skrishna: well :D there is a problem
[19:33] <Peace-> skrishna: remove kbluetooth
[19:33] <Peace-> form the list
[19:33] <Peace-> and try anyway
[19:33] <James147> skrishna: kdebluetooth was obsaleted ages ago by kbluetooth... i think in maverick they switched to bluedevil
[19:34] <Peace-> James147: yes the switched
[19:34] <Peace-> but xD
[19:34] <bigboss> i cant configure kopete
[19:34] <Peace-> bluedevil crash a lots xD
[19:34] <Peace-> hahahaha
[19:34] <Peace-> nice
[19:34] <FloodBotK2> Peace-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34]  * skrishna removed kdebluetooth and trying again
[19:34] <BluesKaj> James147, got a ppa for kde 4.5.2 ?
[19:34] <James147> skrishna: you might also need to remove kbluetooth
[19:35] <James147> BluesKaj: one sec :)
[19:35] <Peace-> bigboss: for what?
[19:35] <skrishna> James147: ok..
[19:35] <bigboss> i have try to configure it but it asks me a code to enter from an image which doesnt appear
[19:35] <a2f> Hi, trying to figure out why I'm not getting any sound. I can run alsa-mixer and see my soundcard but I'm still not getting any sound :(
[19:35] <Peace-> a2f: 10.10?
[19:35] <Peace-> a2f: screenshot?
[19:36] <skrishna> a2f: alsa-mixer and F6 to choose your card !
[19:36] <skrishna> a2f: speaker-test
[19:36] <bigboss> i am using kubuntu 10
[19:37] <Peace-> bigboss: screenshoot
[19:37] <James147> BluesKaj: I think its in ppa:kubuntu-ppa
[19:37] <goalador> I'm trying to install kubuntu-restricted-extras but apt-get doesn't seem to be able to download the flash-plugin which is on the exact place it looks for it... see: http://pastebin.ca/1959485 does somebody have got an idea?
[19:37] <bigboss> but that image doesnt appear
[19:37] <James147> (but I installed /backports at teh same time :)  )
[19:37] <Peace-> goalador: wait a sec
[19:37] <a2f> skrishna: I did that, let me try speaker-test.
[19:37] <Peace-> goalador: ok server down
[19:37] <a2f> Peace-: You want me to upload what kind of screenshot?
[19:37] <Peace-> xD
[19:38] <Peace-> a2f: screenshot of alsamixer
[19:38] <Peace-> yea
[19:38] <BluesKaj> James147, I found it in my reference text file, ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[19:38] <a2f> speaker-test does nothing
[19:38] <goalador> ohh okay...
[19:39] <James147> BluesKaj: 4.5.2 is in ppa:kubuntu-ppa   .... not backporst according to: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.2
[19:39] <James147> BluesKaj: I think minor releases tend to get put in ppa:kubuntu-ppa   where as the more major ones (ie 4.4 to 4.5) get put in backports
[19:39] <skrishna> a2f: lspci | grep -ir audio
[19:40] <BluesKaj> yeah, James147 looks like it alright i already have that repos
[19:41] <a2f> skrishna: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[19:41] <skrishna> James147: you are right : ppa:kubuntu-ppa
[19:41] <Peace-> a2f: waiting for the screen..
[19:41] <a2f> Peace-: okay
[19:45] <a2f> skrishna: what's the best no-hassle picture uploading service?
[19:49] <BluesKaj> ok James147 upgrading to 4.5.2  as we speak ...
[19:49]  * BluesKaj hopes for the best
[19:49] <Unksi> works well here :p
[19:51] <eyebeam> hello, can someone help me with active directory authentication please
[19:53] <eyebeam> is there anyone familiar with getting the wifi working on dell latitude e6400?
[19:53]  * BluesKaj wonders what active directory authentication is
[19:54] <skrishna> James147: BluesKaj: Could you add documentation on rfkill for laptop bluetooth/wifi ? I just now enabled my bluetooth using rfkill : rfkill unblock 2 ?
[19:55] <skrishna> 2: hci0: Bluetooth
[19:55] <skrishna>         Soft blocked: yes
[19:55] <skrishna> James147: now bluetooth is working great :-)
[19:56] <BluesKaj> eyebeam, what wifi chip ?
[19:58] <skrishna> eyebeam: lspci | grep -ir 802 ?
[20:02] <skrishna> eyebeam: something shown up in : iwlist scan ?
[20:03] <skrishna> eyebeam: or iwconfig ?
[20:03] <scherenhaenden> hi everybody
[20:04] <scherenhaenden> i cant start normal my computer
[20:04] <eyebeam> skrishna: no. It's a Dell 1510 half-card. Shows up as Broadcom BCM4322
[20:04] <scherenhaenden> when i start i get... grub error 15... then i start a live cd... n from the livecd i click on start from first hard disk... n my computer start
[20:05] <scherenhaenden> !es
[20:05] <skrishna> eyebeam: what does : rfkill list shows ?
[20:06] <eyebeam> skrishna: dell-wifi: Wireless LAN / Soft blocked: no / Hard blocked: no
[20:07] <BluesKaj> !broadcom
[20:09] <eyebeam> ubottu I tried that, will try again. Unfortunately I am still locked out of my machine due to Active Directory
[20:10] <eyebeam> Can anyone help me with my AD problem? I got it working, but then I could not logon when the computer was off the network. I want it to cache the AD password like Windows. I followed the directions in the Wiki, which seem to be for a different version of ubuntu, and now I'm locked out, none of my accounts, local or AD, can login
[20:10] <BluesKaj> eyebeam, in the terminal , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[20:11] <opengeek_> hi everybody
[20:12] <BluesKaj> eyebeam, ignore the above post , it doesn't apply
[20:13] <eyebeam> Thanks. I have my system booted up to a live CD so I can edit files under /etc
[20:14] <opengeek_> I have a problem, I can't log in to one of my accounts in a kubuntu computer, in the auth.log I fount this: 2010-10-11 21:08:03	movingcastle	kdm	:0[2113]: pam_unix(kdm:session): session opened for user kde-developer by (uid=0)
[20:14] <opengeek_> 2010-10-11 21:08:03	movingcastle	kdm	:0[2113]: pam_ck_connector(kdm:session): nox11 mode, ignoring PAM_TTY :0
[20:14] <opengeek_> 2010-10-11 21:08:04	movingcastle	kdm	:0[2113]: pam_unix(kdm:session): session closed for user kde-developer
[20:15] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[20:17] <Incarus> opengeek_, can you paste the whole log file?
[20:17] <Pici> !pastebin
[20:17] <skrishna> James147: Peace- How to set the panel transparent in kubuntu without enabling desktop effects ?
[20:18] <opengeek_> Incarus, Pici & ubottu: ok
[20:18] <Peace-> skrishna: i guess you can't
[20:18] <Buutti> i guess further adjustment pays off, just got bt-networking to work with kppp :)
[20:18] <Peace-> skrishna: i have searched a lots
[20:18] <Peace-> time ago
[20:18] <Peace->  and i didn't find a solution
[20:18] <skrishna> Peace-: I had saw that kind of setting in Chakra Linux !
[20:18] <Peace-> skrishna: yea?
[20:18] <Peace-> wtf
[20:20] <Incarus> skrishna, are you talking about the gnome desktop?
[20:20] <skrishna> Incarus: No kde Kubuntu panel !
[20:20] <opengeek_> Incarus: http://pastebin.com/39K6KpuT
[20:20] <Peace-> Shaun: are you sure it was not kde3?
[20:23] <BluesKaj> all seems ok , guess I'll upgrade the desktop pc as well
[20:23] <Incarus> opengeek-, my auth.log looks similar, can you explain the exact problem?
[20:24] <eyebeam> anyone have advice on what I should edit in /etc/pam.d to allow local and cached AD logins on 10.04?
[20:27] <Incarus> eyebeam, read the second note: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto#PAM
[20:28] <opengeek_> Incarus: i log in in the kde-developer account  and when it's loading the configurations kde dues not load and goes back to kdm
[20:28] <eyebeam> Thanks Incarus, when I followed those instructions, I get completely different entries generated by pam-auth-update. Should I just edit the files anyway?
[20:29] <opengeek_> Incarus: I have another account (opengeek) and I can log in without problems
[20:29] <SilentDis> help! just rebooted for upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10, get "error: the symbol `grub_xputs' not found." and it drops me to a "grub rescue>" prompt.  how do i get my system working again?
[20:30] <eyebeam> Incarus: What's the difference between "sufficient" and "[success=2 default=ignore]"?
[20:30] <chuso> hi! :) first of all sorry for my english. I'm under kubuntu 10.4, and my system has gnome environment installed. What is the best way to completely remove gnome, keeping kde unbroken?
[20:32] <Incarus> eyebeam, you got completely different entries? hm.. just try it and remember to mane a backup of that file.
[20:33] <eyebeam> well there are some different entries, but some are "[success=X default=ignore]" instead of sufficient, sometimes its "requisite" instead of "required"
[20:35] <Incarus> eyebeam.. yeah i can see that.. but i have no idea how to set that up, so just try it ;)
[20:36] <eyebeam> ok thanks, i will
[20:36] <Incarus> opengeek_, you created an account called "kde-developer", and now you can not log-into that account?
[20:38] <opengeek_> Incarus: I created it 2 days ago and I've been using it for downloading kde trunk sources to start preading kde sources and try to solve an Easy to solve boug
[20:38] <opengeek_> Incarus: I downloaded it and build it
[20:39] <opengeek_> Incarus: Into kde-developer home directory
[20:40] <Incarus> opengeek_, are you sure you didnt overwrite needed hidden files?
[20:41] <opengeek_> no, I think everything has been downloaded and build into the kdesvn directory into kde-developer home
[20:43] <TheSqueak> in kde 4.5.1 I could move an mplayer window by dragging anywhere on the video, in 4.5.2 I have to click on the title bar, anyone know where the setting to fix that would be?
[20:43] <Incarus> opengeek_, why dont you create a new account and copy the files from the other acc.?
[20:44] <opengeek_> Incarus
[20:44] <opengeek_> Incarus: ok
[20:48] <skrishna> Incarus:  what is difference between apt-get upgrade & dist-upgrade ?
[20:49] <Pici> !dist-upgrade
[20:49] <Incarus> thx.
[20:50] <skrishna> Pici: I want to upgrade to kde-4.5.2 !
[20:51] <James147> skrishna: see the topic for how to do that
[20:51] <adalberto> oi
[20:52] <skrishna> James147: I wanted 2 know diff b/w upgrade & dist-upgrade I have added & updated the repo ppa:kubuntu-ppa, surely i will need to run apt-get upgrade !
[20:53] <Incarus> skrishna, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu
[20:53] <skrishna> Incarus: thnx.
[20:53] <James147> skrishna: then run: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[20:53] <Incarus> James147, i think he want to do a release upgrade.
[20:54] <Incarus> no wait..
[20:54] <James147> Incarus: he said kde 4.5.2... which isent a release upgrade
[20:54] <skrishna> Incarus: I running kubuntu-10.10
[20:54] <Incarus> skrisna, like James147 said.
[20:54] <skrishna> s/I/I am
[20:56] <skrishna> James147: Incarus: thnx a lot :)
[20:56] <eyebeam> ok I made those changes, rebooted, and now bootup takes twice as long and I still can't login. Not even with local root. Simply entering my username, before even entering my password, at the console login tells me "Login incorrect"
[20:56] <Andre_Gondim> how I extend my monitor?
[20:57] <SporkWitch> Andre_Gondim: multi-monitor, you mean?
[20:57] <Incarus> eyebeam, so you have to copy the backed-up file over the new one again.
[20:58] <Andre_Gondim> SporkWitch: I plug other monitor in my laptop, I want to extend my desktop, in Ubuntu I just open Monitor and the system finds this to me
[20:58] <skrishna> James147: Any way of restoring kubuntu desktop settings if .kde is corrupted or got deleted by mistake ?
[20:58] <eyebeam> and yet I still won't be able to login
[20:58] <eyebeam> that's the problem, I can't login at all
[20:59] <Incarus> eyebeam, use a live cd / usb to do that.
[20:59] <SporkWitch> Andre_Gondim: open up the configuration program for your graphics card
[20:59] <James147> skrishna: depends on how it was corrupted... deleted no...  (that is restoring your settings, if you rename it or delete it then loggin back in will give you the default settings)
[20:59] <SporkWitch> Andre_Gondim: it should be under kmenu -> applications -> settings
[21:00] <eyebeam> yes, that is what I am doing
[21:01] <Incarus> Andre_Gondim, what graphic card are you using?
[21:01] <skrishna> James147: thnx
[21:01] <Andre_Gondim> Intel card
[21:02] <SporkWitch> Andre_Gondim: ahh, then gimme a sec to find the setting in the main settings.
[21:02] <SporkWitch> you can try system -> krandrtray, that might have it
[21:05] <SporkWitch> Andre_Gondim: if not there, i would try under the main settings.  I always handle my video settings via the nvidia control panel, so not really sure how to otherwise :(  i would recommend google and the pre-installed manual, as with how common multiple monitors are these days, it's got to be a common issue.
[21:05] <Andre_Gondim> SporkWitch: yeah, krandrtray works to me
[21:05] <SporkWitch> Andre_Gondim: glad i could help
[21:06] <SporkWitch> Andre_Gondim: and if you figure out how to make a single wallpaper span desktops, let me know.  i've got a pile of righteous 3300x1050 wallpapers from Digital Blasphemy that I'm too lazy to chop up to make two so i can still use them lol
[21:07] <Andre_Gondim> but I want to change to have my main windows in laptop, and stayed in the extended monitor..
[21:10] <SporkWitch> Andre_Gondim: move the panel, easiest way IMO.  and in (i think) "window behavior, you can set how windows decide where to open (though it doesn't seem 100% reliable; most seem to remember last display used)
[21:19] <eyebeam> OK I used this thread to fix my local login: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91510 but now my touchpad doesn't work....
[21:32] <bbigras> Is it me or kpackagekit is not using policykit anymore? I have to enter my password every time.
[21:34] <PasNox> Hi
[21:34] <PasNox> i'm building my qt4 project but it can't find zlib.h
[21:34] <PasNox> i checked in the package and can't find something related to it ? what i have to installl ?
[21:34] <nascentmind>  hi. When I scroll up and down in vim on konsole the cpu usage spikes to to a high value and the scroll is choppy. Why is that?
[21:37] <bbigras> PasNox: Did you try installing the zlib1g package?
[21:37] <PasNox> bbigras: let me check
[21:37] <bbigras> PasNox: I'm not sure it's the right one, I don't see any zlib.h in it.
[21:38] <PasNox> bbigras: it was zlib1g-dev thanks ;)
[21:38] <PasNox> what a strange name for a lib
[21:38] <PasNox> usually, they are nammer libXXX-dev
[21:38] <PasNox> named*
[21:38] <PasNox> thank you.
[21:38] <bbigras> yw :)
[21:40] <prompt> !addon
[21:45] <bbigras> Is there a devel channel for kubuntu?
[21:45] <dmatt> kubuntu-devel
[21:46] <bbigras> thanks
[21:53] <eyebeam> Touchpad working now with a different login. Hopefully there's a way to fix it for the other user
[21:54] <realslix> hello, I got a problem with my desktop-plasma in 10.10 - I can see a rectangular which I am not able to remove its not a widget its a widget-bug or something http://oi55.tinypic.com/2vdma6p.jpg
[21:55] <James147> realslix: you can reset plasma-desktop to its default settings, that should get rid of it. (to do that rename or remove ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* )
[21:56] <realslix> James147: thx, I will try
[21:59] <eyebeam> OK... so how do I enable cached AD authentication so I can logon to my AD account when not connected to the network?
[22:00] <styles2304> What password is Windows looking for when asking for a network password when trying to connect to a linux share?
[22:01] <realslix> James147: that solved my problem - thank you very much :)
[22:01] <James147> styles2304: the password you entered for samba :)   ... you need to add one for each user you want with smbpasswd
[22:01] <styles2304> Ok then followup question, why doesn't the password I entered for samba work and allow me access to the share?
[22:06] <eyebeam> Ugh... another problem, I set up my proxy for work, but I can't change it when I'm at home. Now I tried changing it at home, and now it doesn't work at work. So apt-get doesn't work
[22:07] <eyebeam> I edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.proxy and it doesn't do anything
[22:11] <eyebeam> kpackagekit works but apt-get doesn't
[22:13] <styles2304> I have a windows username/password, kubuntu username/password, and a samba username/password that are all identical and I've configured a share through Samba Server Configuration to allow for reading and writing of the share by the username mentioned above. When connecting through Windows, it asks for a username and password. Nothing I supply is accepted
[22:16] <avihay> styles2304: If you are using windows 7, you have to pretty much disable every fancy feature they added for normal sharing to begin to work
[22:16] <styles2304> That I am . . . can you explain a little further?
[22:18] <avihay> styles2304:  windows 7 added some new features to sharing like user groups, public/work/home network and all sorts of things, that have the theoretical potential to give you enhanced user control and safer sharing, and automatically disabling sharing when you are plugged into a potentially hostile network
[22:21] <styles2304> Is there something specific that needs disabled or configured to allow this to function properly?
[22:22] <avihay> I have no idea how to enable sharing under windows 7, except changing the network to home/trusted/how ever it's called, and disabling all share control. it never worked for my under any other configuration combination, and it's a hassle to configure, since the new "control pannle" is a pain in the eye, and other areas
[22:22] <Mehrab> networkmanager in kubuntu 10.10 tries to connect to auto eth0 over and over, and won't let my real connection to connect. so I have no connection in kubuntu 10.10. what should I do?
[22:22] <avihay> my->me
[22:23] <styles2304> Alright, thank you. I'll give google a shot with some windows 7 specific queries
[22:26] <Mehrab> How can I disable Auto eth0 connection? or delete it?
[22:27] <styles2304> Avihay: I'm simply trying to be able to store information on the linux server, does this still run into the problems you had mentioned?
[22:28] <avihay> I never tried windows7 / samba, but it should work as well as windows7 winxp
[22:28] <styles2304> Alright
[22:29] <realslix> Mehrab: what is your aim to do
[22:29] <realslix> Mehrab: you can disable it in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:29] <realslix> Mehrab: but why?
[22:31] <Mehrab> realslix< I wanna connect through the connection that I made in dsl tab. when auto eth0 tries to connect, it won't let that work. and auto eth0 would not connect itself. it just tries
[22:32] <Mehrab> realslix: and my /etc/network/interfaces is just  lines, like this: auto lo   //   iface lo inet loopback
[22:36] <Mehrab> anyone know a way do disable or delete Auto eth0 connection?
[22:38] <realslix> Mehrab: try: ifdown eth0
[22:38] <Killer> Mehrab, static?
[22:39] <Mehrab> Killer: no, I think
[22:40] <Mehrab> realslix: I'll try it. thanks
[22:42] <orbitalcommand> does bittorrent eliminate file corruption due to interrupted downloads
[22:44] <James147> orbitalcommand: bittorrent grabs cuncks of data... the way it works means it can be intruppted as much as you want, most clients also verify the chunks to make sure it dosent recive anything cruppt
[22:45] <orbitalcommand> verifies the chunks arent corrupt, when the chunks themselves are interrupted
[22:45] <orbitalcommand> right?
[22:46] <James147> orbitalcommand: it should... either way most clients also allow you to manually recheck all the chunks if you want
[22:47] <RadSurfer> Appears I am not able to install 10.10. I tried a direct download from kubuntu.org, and it went through the motions of an "Installation", come to find out, NOTHING was ever written to harddrive apparently.
[22:48] <RadSurfer> checksums, as usual, check out 100%.  No idea why this isn't working for me.
[22:48] <RadSurfer> this hdd is good, it had mandriva on it before.
[22:48] <RadSurfer> also, that "error code 1" business appears to be intermittant.
[22:49] <Mehrab> realslix: just another question. it says here that if you have no ethernet devices the /etc/network/interfaces file would look like: iface lo inet loopback. but I have an ethernet router, whay my interfaces file is like that?
[22:49] <Mehrab> realslix: here https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[22:50] <realslix> Mehrab: which kubuntu version do ou have
[22:50] <Mehrab> realsix: 10.10, fresh install
[22:51] <realslix> Mehrab: type in konsole sudo ifconfig -a which interfaces do you see
[22:51] <realslix> Mehrab: I think your problem is, that you cant connect to Internet becaus of a lan connection which has no gateway
[22:52] <orbitalcommand> looking for kubuntu torrents here: http://www.search-results.com/web?q=kubuntu&search=search&qsrc=0&o=16090&l=dis but nothing seems listed in terms of actual files.  why?
[22:53] <Mehrab> realslix: I should reboot tocheck that command, is there any thing else I should check?
[22:53] <James147> orbitalcommand: why not get it from the source: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download ?
[22:53] <realslix> Mehrab: when you add a network configuration to /etc/network/interfaces the configuration will be prefered
[22:54] <realslix> Mehrab:   the moment you use networkmanager
[22:54] <orbitalcommand> realslix: im at that page also, when i click on the bittorrent file it downloads it thru chrome not bittorrent
[22:55] <orbitalcommand> ^^ nvm
[22:55] <James147> orbitalcommand: you should get a *.torrent file, open that file in your bittorrent client (such as ktorrent)
[22:56] <realslix> Mehrab: and networkmanager is administrating you network at moment - so to avoid this type in your interfaces file: iface eth0 inet static
[22:57] <orbitalcommand> anyone hear about an increase in ease of use in terms of wifi setup between 9.10 and 10.10
[22:57] <realslix> Mehrab: then your eth0 is no more managed by networkmaneger and you can disable it
[22:57] <Mehrab> realslix: you mean I should change it to something like this? http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/newbie/506-setting-static-ip.html#post3169
[22:57] <realslix> yes
[22:58] <realslix> Mehrab: type that in and then you can ifdown eth0
[22:58] <Mehrab> OK, I'm going to reboot and try. thanks alot
[22:58] <realslix> ok
[23:01] <liwo> My system crashed during package installation when upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10. I had to switch off the power. It booted up with some error messages (which probably is to be expected) into KDE. I managed to do a dpkg --configure -a and an aptitude dist-upgrade which at least finished installing the packages. But now I realized that pulseaudio ist not installed so I guess the update is not finished. Is there a way to find out which additional
[23:01] <liwo> steps are yet to take to finish the upgrade or do I have to reinstall the system to get a clean installation agein?
[23:07] <James147> liwo: install "kubuntu-desktop" that will install baically everything you might be missing
[23:08] <liwo> James147: that sounds like a plan. I will try that. Thanks!
[23:09] <RadSurfer> hope you know what you're in store for :)
[23:16] <vee> hi all
[23:17] <vee> if im running ubuntu 10.10 and want to install and run kde side by side, how do i do it?
[23:17] <vee> side by side with gnome ofc
[23:19] <James147> vee: install "kubuntu-desktop"
[23:19] <liwo> James147: you were right, even though "kubuntu-desktop" was installed, it had missing recommendations. Among these were the missing pulseaudio and others I didn't notice before. So thanks again!
[23:19] <vee> James147: that simple. thanks
[23:20] <Mannequin> hi. I've added official Google repos for Linux software to the sources.list
[23:20] <Mannequin> now, I would like to give "priority" to the Google repos rather the Ubuntu ones, when trying to install the "picasa" package
[23:21] <Mannequin> in other words, I'd like "sudo aptitude install picasa" to install the one coming from Google repos
[23:21] <James147> Mannequin: dont think you can do that... but aptitude should grab the one with the later version number... I would think the google repo have that :)
[23:21] <phoenix_> when i see the id3 tag of mp3 file in dolphin properties dialog it shows the album and performer data wrongly. i checked the tags with kid3 tagging software, the tags are correct. any idea what wrong
[23:22] <Mannequin> James147: thanks, will try to confirm that that's the way it works
[23:35] <Torch> phoenix_: sounds like a bug. did you check bugs.kde.org?
[23:35] <phoenix_> Torch: no. did you verify the problem
[23:36] <phoenix_> Torch: my kde version is 4.5.2
[23:36] <Torch> phoenix_: performer is wrong for me, title is correct
[23:36] <phoenix_> Torch: this problem was from kubuntu 9.10
[23:36] <Torch> phoenix_: grenre is also rubbish (probably an internal id...)
[23:36] <phoenix_> Torch: ya for me title is correct. did the check the album tag
[23:36] <Torch> phoenix_: check bugs.kde.org and report if you don't find anything.
[23:37] <Torch> phoenix_: also rubbish
[23:37] <phoenix_> ok
[23:43] <phoenix_> Torch:i couldnt find any. i may be wrong. can you check it. what is the version of id3 tag dolphin is showing
[23:47] <phoenix_> Torch: enabling the nepomuk solved the problem
[23:47] <Torch> phoenix_: that's great but it's still a bug of course.
[23:49] <phoenix_> Torch: ya.can you report it as a bug. i dont know how to file a bug or if you tell me how to do, i will do it
[23:49] <Torch> phoenix_: create an account on bugs.kde.org, then follow the bug report wizard there
[23:49] <phoenix_> Torch: ok
[23:51] <Torch> phoenix_: once you have the account you can also pick "report bug" from the help menu in the application you want to report a bug for
[23:51] <phoenix_> Torch: i am logged in
[23:51] <phdp> I have a little problem since I updated to Kubuntu 10.10 (a fresh install). I have a fairly powerful computer, but even when I'm doing very easy things like watching a video or listening to music the CPU usage will go ridiculously high
[23:52] <phdp> The most surprising is that, when I'm looking at CPU usage for each program, it's always very low, but in the system load in the System Monitor, I see the CPU usage is very high.
[23:53] <Torch> phdp: and with the last version you had that did not happen?
[23:54] <phdp> Kubuntu 10.04
[23:54] <phdp> But the NVidia drivers were differents.
[23:55] <Torch> phdp: graphics drivers don't play music, however ;-)
[23:55] <Torch> phdp: do you actually notice a slowdown? or is it "just" the numbers?
[23:57] <phdp> I notice an important slowdown, to the point were videos are sluggish and Amarok has trouble playing mp3 (we're talking about an Intel Core i7 920 here...)
[23:58] <phdp> It seems to go especially crazy with video, I just saw one of my processor go over 60% CPU usage by going to youtube
[23:58] <Torch> phdp: and non-flash video?