[00:00] nobody awake? [01:29] Does anybody here participate of the translations ? [01:29] I mean, of lxde itself [01:30] :) [02:14] Hey, how do you look at the hard disk in lubuntu? [02:16] Its usually under the Places menu in Ubuntu, but I can't find it in Lubuntu. [02:16] anybody out there? [02:26] I installed lubuntu in an older laptop dual boot with win XP, but grub never appears, XP boots directly, partitions are there, how do I get grub to work? [02:50] aha! the /boot partition was not created [03:14] stringarray: that would be a documented case of grub and XP not getting along. [03:15] !grub2 | stringarray [03:15] stringarray: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10. For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [03:21] maybe the installation is not completing, I'm installing from a usb stick, the progress bar reaches 15% and the laptop turns off, will try again tomorrow [03:37] okies stringarray do let us know how you get on, as we'd hate a final stable release to be broken. [03:41] * phillw waves to to Tir_Eoghan [03:44] greetings phil [05:29] wait, the final 10.10 is released, how did I miss that [06:01] Hey, I have lubuntu 10.04 on a laptop and if I plug in a second monitor how would I enable it to mirror mode? [06:54] Hey, anyone know how to change your video driver? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:38] hyperair: will you sit still :p [10:38] sorry, ran out of battery =p [10:38] it happens to all of us !! [10:39] what happens? [10:51] batteries running out, that's why piglet is plugged in 24/7 [10:51] phillw@piglet:~$ [10:52] how cute name for a computer ;) [10:53] bioterror: I loved the film babe, with the sheep herding piglet.... yeah, so I'm daft. [10:56] question about installing grub2 [10:56] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [10:57] there is a mention 'replace /dev/sda with location you want to install GRUB on.' ... I don't exactly understand where I want to install it. A bit earlier there is a mention that 'Note the designation for the disk /dev/sda which you will be using later,' but nothing else [10:58] you should install it to the MBR of the hard rive [10:58] for me, my linux ext4 with / mount point is at /dev/sda5 .. should I use that when I run sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 /dev/sda5 <- like that [10:58] drive [10:58] just /dev/sda [10:58] ok [10:58] some can correct if I'm wrong [10:58] but I've installed my grub to /dev/sda and I ve a dual booting laptop at home (my worklaptop) [10:59] it would make sense, since in the example he finds the linux at /dev/sda2 and then runs /dev/sda [10:59] yes [11:04] okay.. I could re-install grub2, but it did not find my windows partition [11:16] lubuntu-bang bang [11:17] I read "lubuntu gang bang" :D [11:17] haha bioterror :P [11:17] naughty bioterror :> [11:17] lubuntu is so quik all other buntus seems old [11:18] :-) [11:18] they should remove the mouse logo from xfce and give it to lxde ;) [11:18] bioterror :P lubuntu-spark [11:19] xubuntu is okey but not fast like lubuntu [11:19] in mine opinion same boot-time as ubuntu [11:25] guys the new filesystem btrfs is it much faster and better then ext4 [11:25] ? [11:27] oracle :o [11:27] bioterror :P you mean it will never bee good or alive? [11:27] hard to say [11:28] I've seen that rats are fleeing from the sinking ship ;) [11:28] Sun Microsystems was opensource-minded corporation, Oracle is not [11:29] bioterror oracle cares about money [11:29] yeah [11:29] Ok. I got my booting issue solved now. lubuntu10.10 does not come with os-prober installed, and when running update-grub (or update-grub2) the grub-mkconfig responsible does not find windows XP since it uses os-prober. So I installed os-prober on my lubuntu and ran update-grub and I got it back [11:30] floating you could also try startupmanager [11:31] good that you solved your issue [11:33] ya^^ [11:40] I found out why PCManFM wasn't drawing the desktop properly [11:40] to be honest I use lubuntu lucid and its lts [11:40] dont need to hurry up [11:41] I have tried both ubuntu and lubuntu maverick [11:41] It is not faster [11:41] so I stick with lucid [11:43] Fair enough [11:45] :) when ubuntu comes with gnome 3.0 I will give it a try [11:46] That seems to be a long way off [11:46] yeah half year :P [11:46] I survive [11:46] Possibly Querulous Quagga [11:46] who knows if lubuntu keeps the good work I will stick with lubuntu [11:47] Knowing the glacial pace of Gnome development [11:47] The new theme is pretty nice [11:48] in lubuntu or ubuntu? [11:48] Lubuntu [11:48] Lots of blue [11:48] yeah and the old one to :P [11:49] Did it have a theme before Maverick? I can't say I noticed [11:49] yes it is almost the same [11:49] Got a picture? [11:49] ubuntus new font is really good [11:49] It is [11:49] ubuntu is over all really eyecandy [11:50] Yeah, it's getting to be quite nice looking [11:50] mark76 you can see old picture of lubuntu in distrowatch [11:50] the installation is much nicer with maverick [11:51] They changed the menu icon for a start [11:51] yes [11:51] It's a circle with the pointy thing in it now [11:51] I think when 11.04 comes out they will only place gnome 3.0 and some minor changes [11:52] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/GNOME_Shell.png doenst look that good [11:52] I hope the speed improves and btrfs become default [11:52] Also... Lubuntu Maverick has its own openbox theme. Rather than just using the Clearlooks one [11:53] LXDE needs a weather applet. For us Brits [11:58] lxde needs to improve applets overall [11:58] some of them looks terrible [11:58] Do me a favour, Kurdistan. Go to the /etc/xdg/lxsession folder and tell me what's in yours [11:59] Anyone having problems with Maverick? I have tried installing twice from usb and cd. Runs perfectly as live from both but when installed to hd there are lots of problems. Menu is empty of all programs, only Run and Logout entries and Run doesn't work. I can open pcmanfm and then open lxterminal. When I try connecting to wireless network manager quickly flashes up the screen to enter my password and then closes it. Don't understand why it runs as [11:59] live but not installed. MD5sum was fine and cd passed checking. [12:00] So far the only problem I've had is with terminals. But that was solved [12:00] lubuntu and lubuntu netbook [12:00] Ah. So you don't have an LXDE folder then [12:01] mark76 you mean me? [12:01] jumpingclear :) stick with lucid [12:01] I guess that only happens if you install Lubuntu as an alternative desktop [12:01] perfect :P ten [12:01] mark76 I have lubuntu as my default desktop [12:02] They removed the My Documents launcher in 10.10 you know [12:02] yesterday I tried maverick out gnome/lxde and went back to lucid :) [12:02] Did you notice there was no icon on the desktop? [12:03] mark76 I see [12:03] mark76 didnt remenber then I hate have icons on the desktop [12:03] like clean one better :) [12:05] I wonder if I had sdd hd, lubuntu would start so fast that :) I can not even see the splash logo [12:05] I am poor student [12:05] I like to have the Recycle Bin icon on the desktop in Xfce as the panel applet is pathetically tiny at small panel sizes [12:05] xubuntu have good things to [12:06] many xcfce things are really good [12:06] there applet is nice overall [12:07] but xubuntu is not light like lubuntu and fast [12:07] that becuase xubuntu have more things in startup [12:08] sudo sysv-rc-conf <<<<--- then this does not work under xubuntu [12:08] True [12:08] yesterday I tried xubuntu, lubuntu and ubuntu [12:08] only xubuntu that didnt let me use it after installation [12:09] I wonder why that was? [12:09] bum is good but that command line you can do much more [12:09] no clue [12:09] sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf <<--- if you want to install [12:10] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 [12:11] Kartix? [12:12] kartix? [12:12] I always use that tool [12:12] :) but If you want to use it remenber how it was default [12:12] write down some where [12:13] when I used ubuntu used that one to tweak [12:13] Okay [12:13] ubuntu become much faster [12:13] lubuntu is fast default and with some few tweaks it fly [12:13] lm-sensors is preinstalled in ubuntu [12:13] not in lubuntu [12:14] it is important to know what unmarke [12:14] I'm going to make lunch [12:14] BBL :-) [12:14] :) do that. which you nice meal. [12:14] I'm not so much into tweaking [12:15] Bye for now [12:15] :) ok bye [13:42] <|friTTe|> i need someones opinion =) might skip my Ubu 10.04 from my main desktop and go with Lubu any toughts? im not using any of these fancy gfx stuff [13:52] hi [13:54] <|friTTe|> leszek, hi =) [13:55] hey guys [13:56] <|friTTe|> hey [14:03] lubuntu-bang-bang-bomb [14:13] encoding a new lubuntu screencast right now ;) [14:13] its about upgrading lubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 [14:13] :) leszek nice [14:14] http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/ [14:15] take a look leszek [14:15] you can make screencast about how to get normal/default splash after installation closed drivers [14:16] somebody here testing the new filesystem? [14:18] Kurdistan: without reading the articel isn't that just simply adding vga=794 to the bootprompt which should fix the splash thing ? [14:18] *article [14:19] :) maybee it does [14:19] becuase when I install nvidia proprietar drivers [14:19] it looks like hell/ugly [14:19] were do you put vga=794 [14:19] ? [14:20] Kurdistan: at the end of the default grub boot entry [14:20] nomodeset needs to be there too I guess for disabling nouveau [14:20] or modeset=0 [14:21] updating the initrd.lz is necessary also , but I guess its a little bit simpler than your tutorial [14:21] lezek what should be update in initrd.lz? [14:22] only the nomodeset / modeset=0 [14:22] to disable nouveau [14:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/510882/ [14:23] you mean like that? [14:25] leszek thats not mine tutorial :) [14:26] ah I thought so [14:40] bb [14:42] brb [14:58] lezcek it didnt work for me === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as Mohan_chml === szczur_ is now known as szczur [16:36] fritte jag såg din tråd på ubuntu.se [16:41] Hey nothingspecial [16:41] And |friTTel| [16:41] No. Don't like this font [16:44] mark76 which one? [16:45] Ubiquity BRK [16:45] oki [16:46] I'm trying out Mozilla's answer to Pidgin [16:46] whats the name of mozillas answer to pidgin? [16:46] Instantbird [16:46] I am not big fun of pidgin to be honest [16:47] I like to try new things :) [16:47] nice mark76 [16:47] is it good? [16:48] It has no tray icon [16:48] lol [16:48] Going to check see if there's a plugin [16:48] I like emesene [16:48] I dont use facebook [16:48] etc [16:48] Too much of a one-trick pony [16:49] :) I only use hotmail/msn [16:49] mark76 why do you use lubuntu? [16:50] Because I'd get bored if I only had one DE [16:51] If you ask me: I like ubuntu and I want my OS have big repo like ubuntu have. Then it is fast, light and stable. [16:52] Choice is good [16:52] :) one day when I am bored and have alot of time I will try out arch or archbang. Buntu works good on this laptop. But rolling release is the thing. [16:54] That's up to you [16:54] :) yeah linux is freedom [16:55] I remenber when I used windows bunch of things to do [16:55] defrag [16:55] antivirus scan [16:56] etc [16:56] slow computer [16:56] pirate life :) [16:56] now with linux I am green and windows free [16:57] :) I have learned more about my computer under ubuntu [16:58] I dont play games on my laptop and was really tired of vista [16:58] That's cool :) [16:58] cool or not but it was the best step [16:59] most of the problems was hardware fauler or my stupidness [17:00] ubuntu is user friendly and goes to the right direction [17:00] will be OS for everybody not only geeks [17:00] or people tired of mainstream os [17:01] Aye [17:01] BRB [17:33] Hey, Has anyone gotten intel8xx drivers working? [17:34] I am currenlty using vesa and I need to get an external miontor working. [18:24] I guys something is really wrong with bootchart [18:24] my laptop have never been faster [18:24] the time I get does not match with my clock [18:24] some bug? [18:36] is it safe for me to upgrade through the upgrade manager? [18:37] btw how do i check what version of lubuntu i have [18:45] system profiler and benchmarker [18:50] omg got Xchat,chromium,ps3mediaserver up and running and using 250mb ram [18:50] :) [18:50] nice! [18:50] i just solved my intel driver problem [18:50] thats the good thing with lubuntu :) [18:50] on my laptop now i have an external monitor running [18:51] Lubuntu is awesome! [18:51] only thing i dont get to work is dualmonitor [18:51] Esepecially when you run a 5 year old laptop with a celeron m and i8xx haha [18:51] got the current nvidia driver now so im good for now [18:51] Oh nice [18:51] will use the monitor for my netbook [18:51] haha [18:52] What are you running lubuntu on? [18:52] dont ignore me :( [18:55] fritte did you look to the link I gave you? [18:55] nope [18:55] on my other computer [18:55] i will check it later, need to grab some food now [18:55] now my splash looks awesome [18:55] mine does too [18:56] =) [18:56] bootchart <<<--- does not like lubuntu [18:56] dont show correct time [18:56] hm ok [18:57] it is more then 30-35 sec slower then ubuntu [18:57] eat my short [18:57] how do i get wine in lubuntu [18:58] I know it is atleast with tweaks and all that 8-10 sec faster at least [18:58] zebastianortis go to synaptic and type wine [18:58] i heard www.freedomainradio.com was the ubuntu of philosophy [18:58] synaptic package manager? [18:58] yes [18:58] thanks kurdi [18:59] or you can use the terminal with sudo apt-get install whateveryouwant :) [18:59] zebastianortis are you new ubuntu user? [18:59] why do you ask? [19:00] are you a new freedomainradio listener? [19:00] i met jonathan riddell myself [19:00] I recommend you install software center [19:00] in england [19:00] in 2005 [19:00] software center? [19:00] yes, much easier way of installing things [19:00] and in 10.10 it has improved [19:01] 10.10? [19:01] wait i think i have 10.04 [19:01] how do i get ten ten [19:01] :) you can make dist-upgrade or burn the livecd/use usb-stick [19:02] will dist-upgrade keep my files intact [19:02] like they were my girlfriend [19:02] Oh Kurdistan were you making a joke earlier haha [19:03] zebastianortis are you joking? [19:03] no, it's a legitimate question [19:03] will dist-upgrade leave all my files untouched [19:03] visit lubuntu.net and you can see screencast how to upgrade from 10.04 [19:04] So Kurdistan is there a problem with your distro? [19:04] Glapo72 who the hell are you? [19:05] Just asking a question my aplogies [19:05] http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-screencast-upgrade-lubuntu-1004-1010 <<<---- zebastianortis [19:05] i am grateful kurdistan [19:05] np zebastianortis [19:07] :) fritte du har två konton vilken är du inne med nu [19:07] :) [19:07] By the way Kurdistan I was making a reference to your comments earlier you made about your bootchart [19:08] Glapo72, I see sorry then. [19:08] <|friTTe|> Kurdistan, det här [19:08] <|friTTe|> men drar o käkar nu [19:08] <|friTTe|> =) [19:08] <|friTTe|> bbl [19:08] smaklig måltid vännen [19:09] No problem well have a good day! [19:09] jeg forstår litt norsk [19:09] <|friTTe|> hehe nice [19:09] og lit dansk også [19:09] Glapo72, I dont if it is any bootchart bug or something but the time is not correct what so ever [19:09] fordi jeg er fra costa rica [19:09] san jose costa rica [19:09] <|friTTe|> not swedish? [19:09] <|friTTe|> =) [19:09] no...you know, they are.... [19:12] is jupiter or eee-control to preferd? or wich program are you suppose to use nowdays? (Eeepc 901) [19:13] gue you have netbook? [19:13] yes, Asus 901 [19:13] :) cool. I have never used one or had one. [19:14] hope somebody else knows :) [19:14] ubuntu have made big efforts on netbook [19:14] almost forgott about normal desktops :) [19:14] who owns desktops anymore [19:15] yeah, I have used many both since yesterday with 10.10 I felt a little lost now and. yeah, I don't really feel like messing up 2 os on 2 days.. crashed my jolicloud yesterday.. [19:15] girls/guys I am leaving. Have nice evening/morning or what so ever :) bye [19:16] thank you anyway! === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as BiggyPiggy === BiggyPiggy is now known as Mohan_chml [22:27] nice... lubuntu not working after upgrade :/ [22:27] :) back on track [22:34] my cursor is not visible after upgrading, any ideas whats going wrong? [22:51] help [22:51] i just got this while upgrading to 10.10 [22:51] One or more running instances of xscreensaver or xlockmore have been detected on this system. Because of incompatible library changes, the upgrade of the GNU libc library will leave you unable to authenticate to these programs. You should arrange for these programs to be restarted or stopped before continuing this upgrade, to avoid locking your users out of their current sessions. [22:54] zebastianortis I think its np [22:54] you can unable repo and ppa after upgrading [22:54] i just clicked on forward [22:54] veldig bra [22:55] takk [22:55] I mean inable [22:55] kempe bra :P [22:55] zebastianortis [22:56] you do the upgrade from terminal [22:56] or update manager? [22:56] update manager [22:56] I see. becuase it is not default on lubuntu 10.04 [22:57] thats why I asked [22:57] explain please [22:58] what to explain, you must have installed it after fresh installation [22:58] from synaptic or terminal [22:58] Hey Kurdistan [22:58] mark76 wb [22:59] how was the meal :)? [22:59] It was very tasty, thanks :) [23:00] nice that you injoyed it :) [23:00] Kurdistan [23:00] http://freedomainradio.com/BOARD/forums/t/27730.aspx [23:02] lol zebastianortis [23:05] bigbrother debian, the kid in the block lubuntu and the mother ubuntu makes perfect 10 :) [23:06] But that's only 3 [23:07] :) I forgott the devilish cousin kubuntu and the sister xubuntu [23:07] Heh [23:08] then we have uncle green linuxmint [23:08] then we have wannabe lubuntu, peppermint :P confused [23:08] haha [23:08] And let's not forget the late fluxbuntu [23:08] is there fluxbuntu [23:08] haha [23:09] There was [23:09] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluxbuntu [23:10] Last release was 2 years ago [23:10] okey, cool. [23:10] I hope lubuntu will keep on [23:10] If not I will send my lawyers [23:10] :P [23:11] or use :P archbang ur debian lxde [23:11] thus far ive liked lubuntu the most [23:11] and ive tried all [23:11] enough talking about others. we can use the off-topic section. my bad. [23:11] cant stand kde's use of resources [23:12] zebastianortis which one have you tried [23:12] all [23:12] it's lubuntu and gnome for me [23:12] yeah cool, jesus walks? := [23:12] jesus walks? [23:12] okey you mean the buntu family [23:13] I thought you mean all big linux distro out there [23:13] I have never used or tried kubuntu/kde [23:13] its to bloated [23:14] tis [23:16] I must go to bad guys/girls and all you between :) [23:16] bye